fomc minutes · September 24, 1956

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington on Tuesday,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr,

September 25, 1956, at 9:30 a.m.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Balderston

Erickson

Mr. Johns

Mr. Mills

Mr. Powell

Mr. Robertson

Mr. Shepardson

Mr. Szymczak

Mr. Vardaman

Mr. Fulton, Alternate

Messrs. Bryan, Leedy, Treiber, and Williams,

Alternate Members, Federal Open Market

Committee

Messrs. Leach, Irons, and Mangels, Presidents

of the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond,

Dallas, and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Harris, First Vice President, Federal Reserve

Bank of Chicago

Mr. Riefler, Secretary

Mr. Vest, General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Abbott, Parsons, Roelse, Willis, and

Young, Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Carpenter, Secretary, Board of Governors

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary, Board of

Governors

Mr. Miller, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Mr. Gaines, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report covering open market operations during the

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period September 11, 1956 through September 19, 1956,

and at this

meeting a supplementary report covering commitments executed Septem

ber 20 through September 24, 1956, was distributed.

Copies of both

reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the open market

transactions during the period September

11, 1956 through September 24, 1956, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. Young presented a review of the current business picture

in

substantially the following form:

Today's report is essentially a repeat of what was re

ported at the last meeting--general strength of expansive

forces throughout the economy, with demands pressing against

supplies in many sectors, and some further rise in wholesale

prices.

Suez Canal developments are by now exerting tightening

strains on world shipping and resulting in some supply cur

tailments in international commodity markets. The longer the

situation remains critical, the greater the effects on supply

conditions for petroleum and other products, on the supply of

ocean shipping and ocean freight rates, and on international

markets generally.

Indications of realignment of activities toward better

domestic-international balance and indications of moderation

of inflationary pressures continue to be registered in most

In

current data available for United Kingdom and Germany.

contrast, inflationary pressures continue to be dominant in

France.

For the United States, the most recent readings from the

data record show the following:

Total national product in the third quarter is now esti

mated at an annual rate in current prices of $414 billion, up

$6 billion or 1-1/2 per cent from the preceding quarter, and

$17 billion or 4-1/2 per cent from a year ago. All of the

major categories of final product purchases are up, with con

sumption expenditures showing the greatest rise over the year.

From the second to the third quarter, business fixed invest

ment and Federal Government purchases of product accounted for

two-fifths of the output rise.

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Industrial output in September seems likely to reach

142 or 143.

Activity in metal producing and consuming lines

is up. Nondurable lines, however, are showing diverse move

ment, with the result that change in nondurables output will

be small up or down.

New auto sales have been off further this month but

ahead of output, reduced for model changeover, so that stocks

have been cut back further, though somewhat less than the

industry had hoped for. Sales and stocks of used cars also

have declined further this month. Used car prices, after

allowance for depreciation, have continued upward, however,

suggesting underlying strength of demand in the used car

market.

Household durable goods output and sales have continued

at the advanced rate of the summer months. Department store

sales this month are remaining a little under last month but

the month's record should still hold close to August high of

128, perhaps at 126-27 of the 197-9 average. Retail sales

generally in August ran 4 per cent ahead of last year, so that

preliminary indications for September suggest that this gain

will about be maintained.

The rate of consumer credit expansion as reported last

time has slowed considerably, particularly reflecting smaller

extensions and higher repayments on automobile paper. Recent

terms data show some further rise in the proportion of new car

contracts written at the long end of the maturity range.

Revision of the Board's consumer credit statistics, being

made for its requested study of this subject, show an upward

adjustment in level of $2.4 billion, divided about half and

half instalment credit and noninstalment credit. Automobile

instalment credit outstanding will be the only downward revi

sion, amounting to $850 million.

Construction activity is apparently maintaining record

rising. Housing starts

levels, with construction costs still

for August were up slightly, and mortgage lending on residential

properties continues to maintain a monthly rate not far under

the high monthly rate of the first three quarters of last year.

Discounts in secondary markets of FHA mortgages appear to be

averaging 3 per cent or about the same as in the late spring of

1953 when discounts were unusually large. Last week the Housing

Administrator took several actions to ease credit conditions for

the construction and purchase of homes. The actions will have

both supply and demand effects for mortgage markets, but for

credit markets generally their net effect is on the demand side.

Labor market trends are in the pattern of other recent

months, with strength and weakness correlating with those in

productive activities. Average hours of work have continued

about stable.

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Total farm output is now expected to about equal that

of last year. Output of livestock and their products will

be at a new high; crop output will be somewhat under last

year.

Unfavorable weather conditions in some regions will

again make for unevenness in farm prosperity.

Wholesale commodity prices have continued to rise and

in mid-September were 4-1/2 per cent higher than in mid-1955.

Industrial prices are on average about 6-1/2 per cent higher.

After rising about 2 per cent from early spring levels,

consumer prices decreased slightly from July to August,

Further advances are expected, however, over autumn months.

A General Comment:

Business Week one week ago raised

the question as to whether the economic picture is really a

picture of inflation, suggesting that, because this year's

money supply increase has been small, we have the anomaly of

too little money chasing too many goods. It is true that the

money supply increase has been modest this year--at just under

a 1 per cent annual rate thus far. With the fall expansion

now expected, the rate for the year should be just under 2 per

cent.

Such an increase would be about a percentage point

under this year's real increase in national product, i.e.,

the

increase in GNP at constant prices.

Over the past five years the percentage increase in real

national product has averaged 3.3 per cent per year. This

average annual rate of increase was about the same as that for

the money supply over this five-year period.

The rise in prices of commodities and services this year

has been sufficiently general to indicate that aggregate de

mand in markets has been pressing against aggregate supply.

Thus far the higher prices have been paid so that money has

been available to support the prices asked. In other words,

money has not been too scarce or in the wrong hands; the

accumulated stock from past monetary growth has been enough,

despite the slower growth this year, to finance transactions

at a somewhat higher level of prices. Activation of balances

in excess of transactions and precautionary needs has partly

made this possible, but activation of money balances is to be

expected when interest yield and other incentives to use money

are rising and confidence in the future is high.

The slower growth in the money supply this year is to be

attributed in part to Federal Reserve policy. That policy

since 1951 has been geared to counter-cyclical objectives in

the short-run and orderly growth at sustained high levels of

activity without inflation over the longer-run. Counter

cyclical monetary policy calls for braking pressure on monetary

growth and tightening pressure on the liquidity positions of

individuals, businesses, and financial institutions when

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aggregate demand is pressing against aggregate supply.

Such

pressure is essential to combat inflationary dangers and to

curb financial overcommitment.

When aggregate demand is

falling short of the economy's resource capacity to supply

goods and services, counter-cyclical monetary policy calls

for liberal expansion in monetary resources and financial

liquidity generally.

If the System were pursuing in this period a monetary

policy geared to some mechanistic or constant rate of in

crease in the money supply, it would be operating in an un

stabilizing way under present conditions.

It would be adding

to the money holdings and liquidity of the public without

regard to attitudes toward and actions in spending money and

making forward commitments and without regard to price trends

in markets.

It would be feeding inflationary pressures at a

time when they were tending to accelerate and thus would be

abdicating responsibility for a stable value for the dollar.

Mr.

Thomas summarized the principal recent financial developments

as followss

1. Heavy demands have continued in capital markets,

but there has been better absorption by the market of new

issues at the higher rate level reached in the latter part

of August.

2.

Yields on corporate securities have tended to rise

slightly further and yields on municipals have been more

stable, as have yields on long-term Treasury bonds.

3.

Treasury bill yields, following a spurt at the time

of the discount rate increase, declined somewhat and then

rose again to a new high level of slightly less than 3 per

cent. (The average yield on the latest issue of Treasury

bills was 2.985 per cent.)

.

Stock prices have declined over 5 per cent on the

average from the peak reached early in August, with trading

at a relatively low level. There has been a marked decrease

in bank loans on stocks and bonds, reflecting some decline

in debit balances of margin customers and perhaps some de

crease in financing of dealers' inventories, as well as some

shifting of loans from banks in leading cities to other banks.

5.

For the fiscal year to date, Treasury cash income has

been about $1 billion larger and cash outgo a little smaller

than a year ago. Net borrowing has, therefore, been less than

last year. The Treasury balance declined somewhat more in the

first half of September than had been expected, wing largely

to a lag in tax receipts, but in the last few days cash has

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been flowing in more rapidly. The balance now is in excess

of $4-3/4 billion, excluding gold. This should be adequate

to meet needs until after the middle of October. Total

borrowings of about $3 billion may be needed between mid

October and mid-December.

6.

Total loans and investments of member banks in lead

ing cities have declined by about $200 million during the past

month, compared with an increase of $300 million in the

corresponding period of 1955. Business loans increased by

about the same amount during the latest period as a year ago,

but other types of loans and investments increased less or

declined more than last year. Since mid-year, total loans

have increased less than half a billion, compared with a rise

of more than $1-1/2 billion in the similar period of 1955.

However, holdings of Government securities have declined by

about $1 billion less this year than last, and changes thus

far during the third quarter of 1956 have been in total loans

and investments closely similar to those of the third quarter

of 1955. It would seem that difficulty in selling Governments

or unwillingness to sell them may be having the effect of

restraining bank lending.

The principal differences between changes in business

7.

loans since mid-year and those in the same period last year

have included increased loans this year to the petroleum and

chemical groups (reflecting largely the Trinidad oil purchase)

and to commodity dealers, while there have been large decreases

this year in loans to metal and metal products manufacturers

and to sales finance companies, compared with little

change

last year. Construction loans by banks have shown little

change since the middle of 1956 whereas last year they in

It

creased by about $60 million during the third quarter.

would be helpful to know whether the complaints of severe

restrictions on credit reflect actual curtailment in credit

extensions or only limitations on further expansion,, and

whether regular lines of credit are being unduly squeezed.

The actual loan expansion has been above average.

8. Demand deposits increased moderately in the first

three weeks of September following a greater than usual de

cline in August.

9.

The annual rate of turnover of demand deposits has

been about 8 per cent above that of a year ago.

10. Availability of bank reserves has increased in the

last two weeks, reflecting a greater than usual mid-month in

crease in float and post-Labor Day return flow of currency

partly offset by System sales of securities. This purely

temporary increase in reserves has had little effect on the

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money market or on the attitude of banks toward extending

credit.

11. Following a moderate drain on reserves this week,

there will be a further sharp reduction next week and net

borrowed reserves may be expected to average around $500

million unless offset by System operations. While addi

tional drains on reserves during ctober will be moderate,

total reserve needs will increase by over $1-1/2 billion

by mid-December, including allowance for growth of 3 per

cent a year and for customary seasonal factors.

Mr.

Thomas concluded his statement by noting that the total

expansion in

credit of all

types had been somewhat less this year than

last, reflecting principally decreases in the Federal debt and a much

slower rate of increase in

consumer debt.

Demand for credit continues

strong, however, particularly from business, and the expansion would

be greater if

the funds were available.

Banks are supplying almost

as much credit as last year and the principal savings institutions

are providing a little

more.

Corporations seem to be borrowing more,

but they are lending less through purchases of Government securities.

Although the money supply is increasing only moderately, the increased

turnover of existing money and the rising tendencies of commodity

prices indicate that further additions to the money supply would be

inflationary.

In the fourth quarter of this year, the already heavy

demands for credit will be reinforced by the usual seasonal factors

and by cyclical recovery in

the automobile and metal industries.

Recent credit policies and other influences seem to have

resulted in

considerable restraint by lenders in

demand, Mr. Thomas said.

the face of strong

It seems doubtful whether excessive credit

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expansion has taken place, but at the same time the restraint on

credit does not appear to have been unduly severe.

While continued

restraint is clearly needed, it appears that the recent degree of

credit restraint may be about adequate.

This would suggest net

borrowed reserves averaging around $300 million, with fluctuations

up to $500 million.

Mr. Thomas noted that the immediate problem

was how to facilitate the Treasury's forthcoming financing in a

difficult period, without supplying reserves that might be diverted

in undue amounts to other uses.

While most of the needed reserves

might be immediately supplied through variations in float, it was

Mr. Thomas' belief that current policy would have to be sensitive

to the reaction of the market and to broader developments and

attitudes throughout the economy.

Chairman Martin said that he would introduce the discussion

this morning by reporting that at a meeting with Secretary of the

Treasury Humphrey and Under Secretary of the Treasury Burgess last

Wednesday, he and Mr. Balderston explored with them the apprehensions

they have with respect to the forthcoming Treasury financing.

Chair

man Martin said that he believed their apprehensions were very real

and that he had assured Messrs. Humphrey and Burgess that the Fed

eral Open Market Committee would consider the problem the Treasury

was facing at its meeting today.

The Chairman expressed the hope

that all of those present at the meeting would bear this situation

in mind in their comments.

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Chairman Martin then called upon Mr. Hayes who made a state

ment substantially as follows:

1.

The rebound in economic activity since the end of

the steel strike has been even more rapid than was expected

earlier.

To a large extent, the great strength of the busi

ness picture reflects a record level of capital formation,

but consumer spending has also been very well maintained.

2. The latest data on residential construction includ

ing a slight reported rise in private housing starts in

August, do not lend support to widely publicized statements

that a substantial decline is likely to be precipitated by

lack of adequate mortgage credit.

It is interesting to note

that officials of major insurance companies feel that suffi

cient mortgage money is available to permit maintenance of

the current rate of housing starts without real difficulty.

The steps taken last week by the Federal Government to ease

mortgage credit seemed ill-advised,

3. With wholesale prices rising almost without inter

ruption since the end of June, the vigor of the current

economic expansion points to some danger of renewed specula

tive building of inventories, although there is as yet little

evidence that this has commenced.

4. For the immediate future, continued expansion in

employment and production and further upward pressure on

prices seem likely. The coming season of heavy retail demand

will provide some test of the degree to which consumer resist

ance may limit the present tendency toward higher consumer

prices.

Total bank loans have risen considerably in the last

5.

six weeks, and business loans have more than accounted for

all of the increase. The capital markets have recently shown

some indications of stabilizing.

Successful marketing of a

sizable volume of new issues perhaps suggests that the short

age of capital funds may be less acute than many observers had

thought. Credit restraints, while tending to dampen incentives

for overly rapid capital expenditures as well as for speculative

inventory accumulations, have not resulted in undue curtailment

of either business or consumer spending.

expecting that the Treasury will have to

6, We are still

It is

borrow at least $3 billion between now and mid-January.

our view that it would be preferable to defer part of this cash

borrowing until December, when the results of the exchange of

certificates maturing on December 1 will be known, and when it

will also be clearer to what extent funds will be needed to

It

meet unusually large redemptions of F and G savings bonds,

part of the program,

will be advantageous to carry out the first

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in the amount of about $1.5 billion, as soon as possible,

both for technical reasons and in order to give the Fed

eral Reserve System greater freedom of action. We hope

that announcement of the terms of the new financing will

be made around the end of September or in early October.

7.

The underlying tone of the money market has been

consistently tight in the last week or two despite the sharp

reduction in net borrowed reserves resulting from unexpectedly

large float figures and from large swings in Treasury receipts

and payments.

Heavy excess reserves have been concentrated at

the country banks whereas banks in New York and other large

cities have continued in a fundamentally tight position. The

steady upward trend of bill rates has reflected this condition,

as has the persistent difficulty of Government securities

dealers in financing their positions.

8. In the absence of System account action, net borrowed

reserves may average around $500 million during most of October,

according to our latest projections.

9.

This is a difficult time for the Treasury to be coming

to the market and we cannot overlook our responsibilities for

providing the necessary stable market atmosphere and whatever

reserves may be needed to permit the banks to do their part in

a successful program. We therefore feel that the Manager of

the Account should try to keep the degree of restraint, as

indicated by the feel of the market, about where it has been in

the last weeks, until the Treasury financing has been completed.

Open market operations should be timed so as to be of maximum

assistance to the Treasury.

10. Following the completion of the Treasury financing, we

should probe cautiously toward greater restraint by limiting

open market purchases and forcing the banks to have recourse to

the discount window for some part of their seasonal reserve re

quirements.

This view is based on our belief that the System

can go further in its efforts to resist inflation without creat

ing a serious credit shortage that might prove disruptive to the

A course of action which would bring about a

general economy.

sustained increase in member bank borrowing would, of course,

affect the administration of Regulation A. What is a reasonable

use of the discount window depends upon all the facts of the

case, including the extent to which, pursuant to conscious Fed

eral Reserve policy, open market purchases are retarded with the

expectation that more of the reserves needed by member banks

At the meeting of the Presidents'

will be obtained by borrowing.

Conference tomorrow the Presidents are planning to discuss the

subject of continuous borrowing; I trust that we will have a

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full discussion of the administration of Regulation A in

the light of Federal Reserve credit policy. We do not have

in mind any radical change of discount policy or any notifi

cation to member banks that the window will be open wider or

for longer periods.

It does seem appropriate, however, to

contemplate larger borrowings by individual banks in relation

to their required reserves, more frequent borrowing, and

borrowing for somewhat longer periods.

11.

In our view it is too early to consider whether

further discount rate changes are desirable, but we feel

equally that it would be a mistake to reduce reserve require

ments against time and savings deposits at this time. A

reduction in requirements would give the wrong kind of signal

to the market and would tend to undercut the continued useful

efforts of bankers to subject loan applications to a most

careful screening process.

Publicized reactions to last week's

White House announcement of measures to ease mortgage credit

are illustrative of the confusion which may be caused by such

signals.

Furthermore, a disproportionate part of reserves

released would go to country banks, which have not been sub

ject to the same degree of reserve pressures as the city banks.

12. The widespread statements to the effect that tight

money is harming small business suggests the desirability of

our trying to find out as much as we can of the factual back

ground on this subject. We would recommend that the Board

consult with the Council of Economic Advisers as to whether

the latter

might conduct a survey of experience of the Small

Business Administration with claims of unsatisfied needs for

credit and of the possible help, if any, which the System

We also be

might properly give in dealing with such needs.

lieve that the System could do more in the way of assembling

pertinent statistics on small business loans extended by

member banks, as well as general information on the types

of needs indicated in loan applications, reasons for in

ability to obtain loans, etc. We would do well to be fore

armed in view of the criticism which has already been

directed at the System in this connection and which may be

directed at us in the future.

Mr.

still

Erickson said that conditions in

very strong in

the New England area were

every sector excepting textiles.

It

that reserves for country banks were adequate, he noted,

was evident

and he also

stated that discounts at the Boston Bank had been much smaller in

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amount recently.

Mr.

Erickson referred to the meeting of stock

holders of the Boston Bank to be held this fall.

One of the mem

ber banks that had total loans in excess of 70 per cent of its

deposits and which was feeling the competition for deposits from

savings and loan associations had submitted a resolution for con

sideration at the stockholders meeting which urged an increase in

the present limitation of 2-1/2 per cent in

the maximum permissible

rate of interest that might be paid on time and savings deposits

under Regulation Q.

Mr. Erickson said that he would not change the directive of

the Open Market Committee at this time nor would he change the dis

count rate.

He agreed with Mr. Hayes' comments as to the Treasury

financing and the degree of restraint that should be continued until

that financing was out of the way, adding that as soon as the financ

ing was completed the System should probe to see whether further

tightening steps were necessary.

Mr.

Irons said that conditions in the Dallas District continued

strong with no sign of any lessening of activity in any area.

agricultural employment was reaching a new high every month.

Non

Construc

tion contract awards had improved within the last few weeks largely

because of a pickup in residential contracts.

While he had heard

complaints of a lack of mortgage funds it was difficult to run down

such complaints, and he cited a circular letter recently distributed

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by a mortgage lender in Houston indicating that the firm had mortgage

funds to place and was seeking outlets.

still dependent on more water.

Agricultural conditions are

It was probable the district would

have a fairly good cotton crop, although production would be 7 or 8

per cent down from a year ago.

Demand for bank credit continued very

strong with most of the increase in loans over the past year being in

the commercial and industrial categories.

up a little

Some banks were tightening

on construction loans.

As to credit policy, Mr.

Irons felt that under present condi

tions the degree of restraint observed during the past three weeks was

entirely appropriate and should be continued consistent with creating

a stable condition for the Treasury's financing.

of the way the System might want a little

upon developments.

After that was out

further restraint, depending

He would not favor any overt action at this time

such as an increase in

the discount rate and certainly no reduction

in reserve requirements.

Mr.

Irons said he was not sure that he understood Mr.

proposals for a possible easing of discount policy, but he (Mr.

Hayes'

Irons)

would rather see essential and necessary open market operations carried

out with a maintenance of discount policy consistent with the terms of

Regulation A, because he believed that changes in the general rules

for administering discount policy would cause difficulty if

made because of variations in needs for credit.

they were

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Mr. Mangels said that, except for the lumber industry in

the Pacific Northwest, Twelfth District activities continued to

show the expansion that had been evident for some time.

had continued to improve,

with gains reported in Oregon and Washington

despite the dampening effects to the lumber industry.

larly was showing gains in

a whole,

Employment

productive activity.

Oregon particu

For the district as

unemployment was very low and probably near the lowest point

since the end of World War II.

important elements in

Mr.

Mangels noted that one of the

sustaining activity in

the Twelfth District

was the fact that 84 per cent of prime military aircraft contracts

during the six months ending in

located in

March 1956 were awarded to firms

California and Washington.

Bank loans continued to increase during the most recent

period and all

credit.

indications were for a continued heavy demand for

Borrowings at the Reserve Bank have been quite nominal

recently, with only three banks discounting for a total of less

than $2 million.

Mr. Mangels said that some of the directors of

the San Francisco Bank recently suggested that there be brought

up for discussion the question whether the Bank should issue a

statement that there would be no objection to member banks' coming

to the discount window.

Another suggestion was that a voluntary

credit restraint program on the part of bankers themselves might

discourage the use of bank funds for long-term credit purposes.

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Mr. Mangels said that his recommendation as to credit policy to be

followed during the next two weeks would be to continue the existing

program and degree of restraint.

He would not reduce reserve require

ments and thought there was no occasion to change the discount rate at

this time.

Mr.

of banks in

Powell said that there had been a decline in

the Ninth District although city banks were experiencing

a seasonal rise in

loans for carrying crops.

what lower than a year ago.

Banks were in

balances maintained by banks in

increases in

total loans

Total loans were some

a comfortable position and

other areas had been rising.

retail trade were being accompanied by a rise in

ings by retailers.

Employment was high.

Seasonal

borrow

Mr. Powell said that the

Ninth District was not in a condition that would require more restric

tive activities on the part of the monetary authorities than now exist.

Mr. Harris commented on the new automobile outlook to the ef

fect that dealer inventories of 1956 model cars were low, that the

industry was extremely optimistic about the outlook for sales of the

1957 models which were about to be introduced, and that it hoped there

would be enough credit available to finance the anticipated increase

in sales of automobiles during the coming model year.

On the general business picture, Mr. Harris said that there

was solid strength throughout the Midwest with a reported pick up in

farm income adding to the optimism resulting from new automobile model

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production.

of funds.

Credit demands were pressing hard on available supplies

However, weekly reporting member banks in the Chicago

District had not shown a net expansion in business loans such as had

characterized New York and the nation as a whole during the past three

months,

partly because the Chicago banks had not participated sub

stantially in

the sharp increases in loans to the petroleum industry

or to commodity dealers.

Credit was being extended to seasonal

borrowers and increases in loans were going largely to food, liquor,

and tobacco processors, to commodity dealers, and to trade and textile

firms.

Mr. Harris said that loans to trade and commodity dealers by

Chicago banks since mid-year had been greater than in the correspond

ing period of 1955 while loans to food processors and textile manu

facturers had been somewhat slower than they were last year.

credit policy, Mr. Harris said he still

As to

felt that the economy was

showing strength and that the present restrictive credit policy should

be continued.

However,

it was his view that some consideration should

be given through open market operations to accommodating the new

Treasury financing and that this should be done very soon so that the

effects on the market could have been observed before the Treasury's

announcement was made early in

October.

Mr. Leedy said there had been further deterioration in certain

areas of the Tenth District because of the continued drought, conditions

in

some parts of the District being the worst since 1934.

He also called

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attention to increasing evidence of attempts on the part of banks

located in other districts, notably in New York, to place loans

with banks in the Tenth District, particularly where the borrowers

were customers of both the out-of-district and Tenth District banks.

Mr. Leedy went on to say that the economic background pre

sented at this meeting called for continued pressure on reserves.

Until the Treasury financing was out of the way, however,

mittee could do nothing in

the Com

the way of additional restraint.

A pro

gram that would maintain stability through the Treasury financing

was called for, and Mr. Leedy said he hoped the Treasury would give

serious consideration to dividing its

new financing into two offerings,

rather than doing it

If

all

in

October.

this were done and the balance

of the financing were delayed until December,

Mr. Leedy suggested the

possibility of providing some reserves through a reduction in reserve

requirements of central reserve city banks.

He emphasized, however,

that this thought was contrary to his feeling as to the need for

continued pressure,

and he would be opposed to any action which would

run the risk of confusing the situation such as might result from a

reduction in

reserve requirements.

He also was opposed to a change

in discount rate or to making any attempt to encourage use of the

discount window.

There might be some probing in the direction of

having increased use made of the discount window, as suggested by

Mr.

Hayes,

but this would be as a result of a lack of a supply of

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reserves and a compelling need for more reserves, rather than any

change in the policy of administering the discount window,

Mr. Leach said there had been little change in the economy

of the Fifth District since the preceding meeting of the Committee,

adding that the textile industry had not yet received the hoped for

orders for the fourth quarter but that the rest of the economy con

tinued quite strong.

Mr. Leach suggested that policy for the immediate future

should be considered in terms of the exigencies of Treasury financ

ing and in terms of current economic developments.

An even keel in

open market operations obviously was called for, and current and

prospective economic conditions called for maintenance of the same

degree of restraint that the Committee had been aiming at for several

weeks.

Any effort to achieve an increased volume of discounts through

increased pressure on the money market would result in more restraint

than was needed in these circumstances, Mr. Leach said.

He did not

mean that it was inappropriate for banks to seek funds through the

discount window to meet seasonal needs, but the Committee should bear

in mind the fact that member banks entered this season with average

borrowings close to $1 billion, and in talking about putting reserves

into the market through the discount window the Committee should

realize that the result would be quite different from what it would

be if

borrowings at the discount window were not now around a billion

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dollars.

Mr.

Leach thought the System would have to furnish most

of the reserves needed this fall through open market operations un

less it were to permit the situation to tighten up, which he did not

think should be done.

He also noted that a majority of the member

banks in the Fifth District had not borrowed from the Reserve Bank

in more than a quarter of a century, and that many others had

borrowed only a few times over the past twenty-five years.

borrowing increased it

banks,

Thus, if

would come from a small hard core of borrowing

some of which would be of the "continuous borrowers" group.

Mr. Leach also reported an inquiry from a large construction

firm regarding the possibility of borrowing $25 million from the

Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond under section 13b for the purpose of

financing defense housing construction.

The Richmond Bank explained

to the firm that apart from technical reasons as to why such a loan

probably would not be eligible, it

would be inconsistent for the

Reserve Bank to make a loan of the type which commercial banks would

ordinarily make but which they were unable to make at this time be

cause of the restrictive credit policy.

Mr. Vardaman said that he could see no occasion for changing

the general policy the Committee had been following, that he would

not change the discount rate at this time,

change reserve requirements in

and that he would not

the foreseeable future.

Banks should

be assured that the discount window was available for legitimate

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normal seasonal borrowing.

Mr. Vardaman felt there was a panicky

fear, particularly among small businessmen, that money was not

available.

He believed money was available but at higher interest

rates, and that banks were being super-selective.

Such a condition

would always exist in the private enterprise system and he would

dislike any effort on the part of banks to organize a voluntary

credit restraint program at this time.

The psychological effect

of such a program would be dangerous, and the political effects

might be fatal in view of the feelings of small business.

Mr. Vardaman said he thought the Committee's program could

be carried out through the open market.

He would like to see the

Treasury proceed with a $3 billion financing in October, feeling

that this would be preferable to carrying some of it over to December.

He would, of course, leave this to the judgment of the Treasury ex

perts.

The less the Federal Reserve said and the more it did in the

way of assuring people that money was available and that the discount

window was available for legitimate use, the more likely the situation

was to work itself out satisfactorily.

Mr. Mills said that it seemed to him that the System continued

to face the problem of how to carry on a policy of credit restraint

that would stop short of making credit truly unavailable and would also

eschew adding momentum to trends that could come to an unfortunate

climax.

He expressed the opinion that some of the points raised in

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the discussion as matters of grave concern might, in fact, contain

built-in elements of credit restraint that aid and abet System policy

at this time.

For example, with respect to the commercial banks,

where the objective of System policy is to put pressure on financial

liquidity, that end is in part achieved because the present high

level of their loans, as compared to their deposits, is of itself a

restraining factor in that bank managements hesitate to permit their

further expansion.

Similarly, the reduction in business liquidity that has been

responsible for the increase in deposit turnover cannot but instill

caution in managements and work against overexpansionist thinking.

All told, considering the results obtained from the liquidity approach

of System policy, Mr. Mills doubted that either the status of bank

loans or deposit turnover.deserved as much concern at this time as

has been voiced.

As to trends, unless checked,the steady decline in the prices

of stocks and the contributing factor of a continuous withdrawal of

bank credit on stocks may give momentum to influences that can have

unhappy consequences.

the credit situation, it

Taking into account these various factors in

was his view that for the short run the

System should aim its actions at the lower side of the negative $300

millions of free reserves mentioned by Mr. Thomas, and preferably at

around a negative $200 millions.

With the new Treasury financing

less than three weeks off, the time left for the System to act to

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steady bank reserve positions and in that way to contribute to

stability in the U. S. Government securities market and to assist

the Treasury is

very short.

System could best signal its

He felt that during this period the

intentions of providing adequate

reserves and of stabilizing the U. S.

Government securities market

by supplying new reserves slightly in advance of a crying need for

their injection.

Such actions should serve to attract a proper

volume of commercial bank subscriptions to the Treasury's offering

and give confidence that having subscribed,

immediately tighten reserve positions.

It

the System would not

would be important to

create a reserve climate under which the commercial banks could re

distribute the securities they acquired over a reasonable length of

time and without loss.

As recent experience has demonstrated that commercial banks

and market operators are well aware of the temporary reserve in

fluences of changes in the volume of float and the size of Treasury

balances, it was Mr. Mills' belief that the process of making reserves

available in support of the Treasury financing should be largely

positive in

character and without undue reliance on float to "float"

the Treasury's new securities and the consequent risk of giving the

market an erroneous impression of the System's intentions.

Mr.

financing,

Robertson said that if

it

were not for the Treasury

he would be urging a more restrictive policy than the

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Committee had been following.

We were nowhere near the point of a

too restrictive policy, and the Committee would be making a very

serious mistake if

in

it

eased the situation too quickly and too much

the face of the Treasury financing.

It

was essential for the

moment to retain the degree of restraint that had been maintained

for the last few weeks so that no one would be misled as to the

System's real intentions, which were to fight inflation and to main

tain stability.

However,

the System should do everything it

to make the Treasury financing a success.

could

It must not only put

reserves directly into the market but perhaps it should use repurchase

agreements to a greater extent than before.

It might be necessary to

make some kind of commitment to dealers on the repurchases.

Mr. Robertson said that he was troubled by the suggestion for

encouraging use of the discount window.

This should be a facility

available at all times, but its use should not be encouraged.

Mr.

Robertson agreed with the idea of probing toward greater restraint

through forcing banks to the discount window after the Treasury

financing was out of the way, but his belief was that the discount

window would be used automatically if

market was not adequate.

the amount of reserves in the

The System would get into deep water if

it

encouraged the use of the discount window.

Turning to the Treasury financing, Mr. Robertson said that the

Open Market Committee had no business urging any view on the Treasury

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as to the type of financing it

should do.

It was proper to give the

Treasury views but not to urge views since Treasury financing was a

matter for the Treasury to decide.

the reserves necessary to make it

He would go overboard in providing

possible for the Treasury to do its

financing in a way that would not upset the restrictive credit policy.

Mr. Shepardson said be agreed largely with the views expressed

by Mr.

still

Robertson.

It

seemed to him that expansive tendencies were

in the ascendency and that while the System had accomplished

something it

had not achieved what it

credit policy.

might through the proper use of

For that reason, he thought the Committee should look

ahead to the possibility at a later period after the Treasury financ

ing was out of the way of taking further action on the restrictive

side.

He was very much concerned about the need for maintaining

stability of the dollar.

Although he recognized the immediate problem

of the Treasury financing which called for maintaining a condition

that would favor a successful financing to the extent that was con

sistent with the Committee's policy, he would dislike any action that

indicated undue loosening of reserve positions of banks for the pur

pose of taking care of the Treasury's financing problem.

course might necessitate the System's coming back a little

Such a

later with

further restrictive measures.

Mr.

Shepardson referred to the use of the discount window,

stating that he thought Mr. Leach had made a point on continuous

borrowers that deserved consideration; that is,

that the continuous

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and excessive borrowing appeared to be concentrated in

a few banks.

The time to correct that situation was not when the banks were in

situation where they needed assistance, but it

a

would be very un

fortunate to do anything that would further aggravate the problem

of continuous borrowing on the part of a few banks.

even during the period of the Treasury financing,

For that reason,

banks should not be

invited to use the discount window because that might make it

doubly

difficult to get back to a better basis later on.

Mr.

Fulton said that in

the steel and allied lines, which were

of major importance in the Cleveland District, activity was at the

highest rate on record with steel output in the Cleveland-Loraine area

running at 107 per cent capacity.

Many products were in tight supply

and there was an insistent and great demand for them.

Some users of

steel who had been carrying up to a forty-day supply before the strike

had now reduced inventories to about a twenty-day supply because they

felt able to operate on almost a hand-to-mouth basis under the terms

of the new wage agreement. Mr. Fulton noted that the price of steel

scrap had been very high and he also stated that additional wage ad

justments were expected, which would be followed by further price in

creases for steel and steel products.

Demand for bank loans in

Cleveland District had continued very active.

the

Some banks had reported

that insurance companies were not seeking mortgage loans at present

but mortgage money seemed to be forthcoming at a price.

Agriculture

was affected by a killing frost last week, but farm income for the

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Fourth District would be quite satisfactory for this year as a whole.

Mr. Fulton said that he felt we had been laggard in the degree

of restraint on industry.

No major plans for plant expansion had been

set aside, and the consensus was that higher interest rates had not

deterred the majority of industrial borrowers.

For the immediate

future, Mr. Fulton felt that the existing degree of restraint should

be maintained with no signal that the System would relax during the

rest of this year.

In fact, a little later in the year it might be

desirable to add further restraint.

The discount window at the

Cleveland Bank had been following a course indicated by the directors

of the Bank, Mr. Fulton said, which was to keep the window open and

to make money available at a price with the thought that if the price

was not sufficient it should be increased as a deterrent to excessive

use of the discount facility.

Mr. Williams said that the economy of the Third District was

active at a high level and that it was difficult to draw a sharp

picture of changes over the past two weeks.

If consumer and seasonal

demands were added to plant expansion activities, it was evident that

the area was in for sharp pressure on facilities during the near

future.

Demand for bank credit in the Third District had shown an

interesting shift, Mr. Williams said, because of the pressure put

on banks through administration of the discount window.

He recalled

his earlier remarks that there was a hard core of borrowing city banks

in the Philadelphia District.

There had been discussions with these

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banks as a result of which they had shifted from the discount window

to the Federal funds market.

There was some evidence, however,

total borrowings of the banks were reaching a plateau.

The Philadelphia

Bank had asked for daily information from these city banks,

supplied it without reluctance,

prove useful.

that

which had

and he thought this information might

As to country banks, Mr. Williams reported a discussion

with what he termed a flagrant borrower who had been using the dis

count facility at a fairly high level during much of the past three

years.

This banker had expressed his philosophy of banking and dis

cussed his individual problems,

after which he inquired of the Reserve

Bank officers what they thought he should do.

Mr. Williams cited this

as an indication of the type of situation that might develop with

individual administration of the discount window among borrowing banks

of the district.

Mr. Williams said that he detected a psychological change in

the public's attitude in the Third District in that everybody was now

conscious of tightness.

Within the past week several questions had

arisen as to whether small business was being hurt by current credit

policy.

Mr. Williams said he had been assured by banks that small

business was getting a ratable share of whatever credit was available;

banks had taken the position that it

would not be good business for

them not to take care of the small business concerns needing credit

and entitled to it.

However,

there was a vocal group that could be

expected to keep this question alive.

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Mr. Williams also reported that Vice President Bopp of his

Bank had met a few days ago with a group of fifty-five business

executives who held policy making positions with their firms.

One

fourth of these were from oil companies, one-fourth from heavy

industry, one-fourth from light industry, and one-fourth were from

service, finance, and other activities.

Mr. Bopp posed the question

whether their forward planning contemplated any recession in economic

activity during the next three years and not a single one of the fifty

five executives felt there would be a recession of greater severity

than that of 1954, and none of them were taking into account the

possibility of a greater recession.

Mr. Williams said he thought this

was typical of the Third District.

With respect to current policy, Mr. Williams said the Committee

should hold the restraint line at the existing degree but it

should be

especially sensitive to the problems facing the Treasury, and it would

be desirable for System representatives in conversations with bankers

to take a position that would influence them in favor of the Treasury's

financing.

Mr. Bryan said that no significant changes in the Sixth District

economy had taken place during the past two weeks.

He said that he

shared the general feeling that the System must maintain at the present

time a posture of restraint.

However, he was very much concerned about

the whole question of maintaining that restraint when the Government

of the United States must be in the market, and when it might face a

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very difficult situation.

He was also somewhat afraid the open market

instrument might not work the way the Committee contemplated as a means

of aiding the Treasury.

The banking system had in effect acquired a

condition reflex, Mr. Bryan said, and he was beginning to suspect that

the reflex was starting to wear off and that simply supplying some

reserves through float or through the open market to aid the Treasury

financing might not prove sufficient.

Mr. Bryan said he noted that

the idea he had expressed at the meeting two weeks ago of doing some

thing in the way of reducing reserve requirements had not met with

unanimous support at this meeting, but he still

thought the idea had

some merit particularly in the light of what he thought would be the

reactions to open market operations at the present time.

that in

He noted

order to get a 2 per cent growth in reserves by the end of

this year it would be necessary to supply approximately a billion

dollars of additional funds, and he could not quite see how supplying

half of this sum through a reduction in reserve requirements would be

objectionable.

In fact, it

might have some substantial advantages at

the present time as a means of assuring the banks that they were not

going to come into the market and aid the Treasury financing and then

be confronted with heavy losses immediately afterwards on the secondary

distribution of the securities.

However, Mr. Bryan said that he did

not know that he could argue too strongly for the reduction in reserve

requirements.

He shared many of the views that Mr. Mills had expressed

and felt that the points Mr. Mills had emphasized should not be forgotten

by the Committee.

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Mr.

Johns said that activity at the discount window in

the

St. Louis District had declined substantially in recent weeks and

virtually all

the borrowing was occurring at present at cotton banks

in the southern part of the district.

This was to be expected at

this time of year and would continue for some weeks.

He noted that

one St. Louis bank that had been approaching the status of a continuous

borrower was now out of debt to the Reserve Bank and that in fact it

recently had been a net seller of Federal funds.

Mr. Johns said he

shared the skepticism expressed by others about attempting to follow

one set of plans with respect to the administration of the discount

window at one time and another set of plans at another time, although

he would not deny that administrative decisions might be tempered

from time to time.

Mr.

Johns noted a press report regarding loans for small

business and the apparent suggestion that business concerns might

turn to the Federal Reserve for funds which they were unable to obtain

from their usual banking sources.

He doubted that such a procedure

would be appropriate at this time, feeling that it would be wholly

inconsistent for the Federal Reserve Banks to make such loans direct

to business while pursuing the present restrictive monetary policy.

He did, however, share the views expressed by Mr. Hayes as to the

need for accommodating small business with credit and felt that the

System should learn as much about this problem as possible.

Mr. Johns said he was also in agreement with much that Mr.

Mills had said today which brought out the thoughts he attempted to

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express at the meeting two weeks ago as to using something other than

net borrowed reserve figures as an indication of the degree of tight

ness in the market.

In suggesting that the System attempt to gauge

restraint by observing the behavior of loans and loan trends, Mr.

Johns said he realized the difficulties of such a procedure and the

lag in available statistics.

He still found nothing to indicate that

the System's pressure was too little and, in fact, there might be some

slight indication that pressure might be a little too heavy in the

present situation, with the Treasury financing undoubtedly requiring

the supplying of some reserves to the market.

Mr. Johns said he felt

the reserves should be supplied without too much reluctance and he

thoroughly agreed with the view that the Treasury would not be able

to carry through its financing satisfactorily on the basis of reserves

that would be supplied through float.

Mr. Szymczak said that he agreed with everything that had been

said on the side of restraint.

Whatever could be done with monetary

and credit measures to restrain the situation should be done.

However,

in order to carry through this program it was necessary to be flexible,

and the System could not afford to be adamant in its restrictive policy.

There was nothing that the System could point to to show clearly that

the existing degree of restraint was "right", now, in the past, or in

the future, whatever policy might be followed.

The System must supply

reserves in the present situation and one of the factors would be the

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need of the Treasury in its

expected $3 billion financing.

This

particular financing was one in which the System must carry through

with the Treasury,

letting it

the financing a success.

It

be known that it

would assist in making

would have to provide less reserves if

it assumed that attitude, Mr. Szymczak said, than if it assumed an

attitude of too much reluctance.

He also felt that it

would be ap

propriate for the System to suggest to the Treasury the desirability

of issuing more tax bills, partly because the System would find it

helpful in

administering monetary and credit policy to have more bills

in the market.

This could include the use of the tax and loan accounts.

Also, the System could in effect go with the Treasury to Government

securities dealers and assure them beforehand that it

was going to

make repurchase agreements freely available as needed during the

financing.

If

necessary, the System should purchase bills in the

course of the financing.

If

some $2 billion of tax anticipation

bills could be issued, then the other billion of the anticipated $3

billion could be in

of bills.

the form of an increase in the weekly offerings

By following the course he had suggested, Mr. Szymczak

felt that the System would find it

than otherwise and would be in

policy of credit restraint.

the position that it

in its

necessary to provide less reserves

a better position to continue its

The classical central bank could not take

had nothing to do with the needs of the Treasury

financing; in fact, in

order to be a classical central bank it

was necessary to consider and assist in the Treasury's financing

problems.

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Mr.

Balderston said he was as perplexed as others had indi

cated they were by the conflict between the System's obligation to

help the Treasury in its October financing and by its responsibility

for minimizing the price-wage increases that are ahead.

As to the

Treasury financing, he would like to see the Treasury use the occasion

to dispose of some $2 billion of bills that would come due in the

latter part of January when the situation might be more relaxed.

Mr.

Balderston said he made this suggestion because an eight- or nine

month security would have to be put out at such an attractive yield

as to disrupt the bond market.

As to the System's obligation to help the Treasury between

now and the completion of the October financing, Mr. Balderston said

it

was very clear that the System would have to supply the reserves

for the financing but this should be done with full awareness of the

fact that we are having a price spiral that will constitute what

Chairman Martin in the past has described as a bubble on the boom.

Mr.

Balderston then referred to features of the steel wage agreement

and to the possible effect of those provisions on prices as well as

to the possibility of reopening other wage agreements that were not

yet due for renewal.

He also referred to the request of the eastern

railways for a 15 per cent increase in rates on top of the increase

granted last year.

A second freight rate increase within the same

year would be clear evidence of the tendency for a cost-price squeeze

to bring about an accumulating spiraling in prices.

In view of these

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Balderston said that he would have sympathy with the

suggestion that Mr.

Hayes had made that as soon as the Treasury

was out of the way the System should do whatever could be done to

discourage price increases because of the impact on the economy

that such increases would have in the months to come.

Chairman Martin then made a statement substantially as

follows:

There is very little

that I can add to the discussion.

I certainly don't want to belabor any points.

I do want to

make an observation that I think we ought to keep in front

of us all the time.

We talk a lot about how much monetary

and credit policy can do and how much it can not do. Ex

officio, I probably get subjected to more calls from the

Hill and from others than most of you and I certainly take

a beating from time to time. It is very easy to get blase'

about criticism and to decide that it is a lot of nonsense.

It is also very easy to be influenced by it. It is a problem

of always keeping balance.

I have been totally unimpressed with the great number of

comments that are being made that the System is heading for

disaster (some of them are perhaps politically motivated),

and the statements that small business is not getting the

credit it needs and that, whatever the cause, the Government

will not be able to permit the Federal Reserve to live in an

ivory tower and continue monetary and credit policy unless

it is more closely connected with the people. I don't have

the slightest concern about that. If we do what is right

and reasonable, it makes no difference what party is in

power or who the individuals are, we will come out all right.

We may be changed from time to time in our structure, but I

am not worried about that.

I emphasized at the last meeting that there were certain

periods when certain things become crucial. I think the

crucial thing at the present time is the Treasury financing.

I don't think it is the degree of restraint: degree is a

very tenuous thing. I don't believe that the degree of re

straint at a given time is the measure of our effectiveness.

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That deals in bigger things.

When it comes to evaluating

the money market I am sure all of us have different judg

ments at different times.

That is because of differences

of the market and because of differences in individuals.

All of us have to make our judgments.

I used the word crucial the last time. Again, I say

in my judgment, this is going to be a difficult money mar

ket from now to the end of the year, and it may develop

into a panicky situation--not because people are reasonable,

but because they are unreasonable.

That is what we have to

deal with.

Governor Szymczak touched on my point here at some

length a few minutes ago.

I think we ought to engage in

whatever devices are needed.

I agree completely with

Governor Robertson that we should not tell

the Treasury

the things that ought to be done, but we should give them

our judgments on the market.

If we have a panic in the

Government securities market, we will be saddled with the

responsibility just as much as the Treasury, and we will

at that point probably have to supply a larger amount of

reserves than if we effectuate this financing in a reason

able way.

This is not a plea for any given level of reserves but

I am making a plea that we are dealing with fluctuations and

flexibility. If we are to make errors--we make errors con

tinually, and this is not in any way a criticism of the desk

because the very nature of the problem means that we will

make errors--the errors we make during this period ought to

be on the side of ease rather than on the side of restraint.

To me, that is a matter of common sense.

It has nothing to

do with anything other than an approach to the market, where

we are already under the shadow of two Treasury issues that

I have heard a lot of talk

have not been wholly successful.

from people in the market and from businessmen, many of them

informed people, as to the incompetence of the Treasury and

how, if things had been done differently, they would have

I don't think that is of any concern

come out all right.

We can not run the Treasury. We have

at the present time.

to accept the end result and pick up the pieces there.

At this juncture, I think we ought to bend our efforts

toward resolving the reserve situation on the side of a

clear indication that we are not going to have $600 or $700

million of net borrowed reserves suddenly develop on the up

side, and have it explained by some untoward incident. If

we are going to make a mistake, we ought to have it on the

Also, I think we ought to be extremely careful

side of ease.

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about any projections or about any talk of what we will

do in the future.

The market will hear ideas of what we

are doing, and if the market gets the idea we are trying

to help the Treasury only to raise the discount rate later

on or to tighten up later on, that becomes an element in

the market.

I think we have to go from week to week or

from period to period without trying to project too far

into the future. Another thing I want to emphasize is

that in my opinion the Treasury is not being unreasonable

at the moment in being apprehensive about this market.

Whether they have always been wise or unwise is a matter

of judgment but they now have a very real problem.

In considering the policy directive, it seems to me

that no one around the table wants to change the directive

at this time.

I don't know how best to word the instruc

tions in terms of the degree of restraint that ought to

be followed. All of us are for following a policy of re

straint. The degree in my own thinking would be as I

have expressed it; we do not want to create a sloppy

money market but nevertheless we have to be alert to the

day to day operations of the money market and we have to

do what we can in supplying reserves and avoiding an im

pression that the Federal Reserve is going to sit by and

be glad to see further restraint develop to bother the

Some people will make comments to that effect

Treasury.

and part of that will be politically motivated. I would

like to have some observations as to how to develop this

very delicate point of what directive to give to the

account, and I would also like to give Mr. Rouse a chance

to comment.

Mr.

Rouse said that, as Mr.

Thomas had indicated, the Treasury

bill market was a shrinking market at present.

The appetite of busi

ness corporations for bills had been steadily going down for the last

few weeks if

not for a little

longer.

Mr.

Rouse said he agreed with

Chairman Martin that this was a most difficult situation.

Steady addi

tions of reserves through open market operations and maintenance of

the reserve picture about as we have had recently seemed to be the

only procedures that would be in line with the policy indicated by

the Committee.

At the same time, Mr. Rouse said, he was not sure

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this would be enough.

He felt

that a Treasury financing of more

than $1-1/2 billion could be done but that the securities might

sell at a discount almost immediately in the light of continued

restraint and the unavailability of reserves.

The amount of re

serves that he could see reason for putting into the market in line

with the Committee's policy would not be sufficient to relieve the

situation in New York or Chicago, Mr. Rouse said, assuming a normal

distribution of the reserves in different parts of the country.

He

noted that the market in New York this morning was quite tight.

A

reduction in reserve requirements would cause confusion as to System

policy, Mr. Rouse said, but it was the type of thing that would give

a clear-cut indication to the market in unequivocal terms that the

System was providing reserves to support the Treasury financing.

On the other hand, if reserves were put in through open market

operations in the same atmosphere, he felt the market would continue

to be very sensitive.

He thought that it would be preferable if

the Treasury offered $2 billion of securities rather than $3 billion

at this time, even though it left open another substantial piece of

financing to be done at the end of the year in

a difficult period.

Mr. Thomas said that the Treasury financing in October might

not have as great a repercussion on the market as some of the comments

had indicated since the Treasury would be paying out some $2 billion

in

funds in

if

it

that month because of redemptions of securities.

Thus,

received $2 billion of cash in the financing, there would still

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be no change in the amount of required reserves as a result of the

Treasury financing.

Chairman Martin inquired of Mr.

Leedy whether his comments

indicated he would favor a reduction in reserve requirements in

New

York and Chicago as central reserve cities only, and Mr. Leedy re

sponded that this was his suggestion.

However,

he did not intend

to suggest that such a reduction should be made at this time but

only on the theory that the Treasury's financing would be divided

into two offerings of $1-1/2 billion each, one to be made in October

and the other in December.

Chairman Martin inquired whether there were any persons present

who favored a reduction in reserve requirements at this time to assist

in the Treasury's financing, and Mr. Bryan indicated that he would favor

such a move.

Mr.

Mills said that he would give qualified support to such a

reduction on the basis that the System had three weeks in which to

experiment as to what could be done to give stability and confidence

to the market.

Before the end of three weeks,

it

was conceivable

that the central reserve cities would need the major support of a

reduction in reserve requirements and he felt that in

door should be left

date.

some manner the

open to consider that as a possibility at a later

He would not be in favor of a reduction in

reserve requirements

at this time.

Mr. Hayes stated that notwithstanding the comments Mr. Rouse

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had made, he would not support a reduction in reserve requirements

at this time, and Mr. Rouse pointed out that his comment as to the

way the market would interpret a reduction in reserve requirements

was not to be taken as an indication that he favored a reduction in

reserve requirements at this time.

Mr. Hayes continued by saying

that while a reduction in reserve requirements would be very neat

from the standpoint of the Treasury financing, he felt open market

operations were designed to meet any situation where we needed a

temporary easing.

If there was some feeling that a net borrowed

reserve figure around $300 million still

left

the central reserve

cities dangerously tight for the Treasury's financing period, he

would favor going further in

might seem necessary.

and it

open market purchases to the extent that

This would have to be played by ear, he said,

would not bother him if

the Committee had to go in

in a little

more emphatic way.

Mr. Johns said that he would favor an immediate reduction in

reserve requirements for substantially the reasons stated by Mr. Bryan.

Mr. Harris said that comments made to him in connection with

the Treasury financing pointed out that while the System seemed willing

to make temporary adjustments in

the amount of reserves for a Treasury

financing, the experience was that before the securities could be given

their secondary distribution the System would come along and tighten

up the market in a way that would put the prices of the securities

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down and thus hurt the banks or dealers or whoever acquired them,

He felt

that the System must consider the problem further and that,

if it did not reduce reserve requirements, it would have to do some

thing else to reassure the market in connection with the forthcoming

financing.

Mr. Bryan said this was the point he had had in mind.

He felt

that the System might receive a bad shock if the banks were not informed

in

a way that they could understand that the System was going to see

the Treasury financing through.

Chairman Martin said that he thought the Committee should have

in mind the points that Messrs. Harris and Bryan had mentioned.

There

had been a good deal of pressure on the System to reduce reserve re

quirements at this time, but he doubted that it would be possible to

explain such a move in a way that would avoid confusing the market and

the public.

He felt that all of the suggestions should be explored

but did not think the Committee could work out every detail at this

meeting.

He referred to the suggestion made by Mr.

account management should have some leeway in its

Hayes that the

operations,

and

Chairman Martin again indicated that he would prefer to have the

Account Manager make his errors on the side of ease rather than re

straint during the period ahead.

He was not asking that Mr. Rouse

intentionally make errors on the side of ease but he was emphasizing

that errors which went in the wrong direction, if

accompanied by

development of a panicky feeling in the market, might lead to the

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System's having to supply more reserves than it

in if

its

it

would have to put

handled the situation by leaning toward the easy side in

operations at this stage.

Mr. Rouse said that, to carry out the views indicated,

his

program would contemplate a substantial amount of buying, more or

less steady buying ($200 to $300 million might be adequate).

thought that this procedure,

He

along with use of repurchase agreements,

might go a considerable distance toward promoting a feeling of under

standing that the System would see the financing through.

tude Mr. Harris had mentioned was the problem, Mr.

The atti

Rouse said, and

he spoke of one bank that had started selling securities that it

acquired in

closed.

a Treasury financing before the books on the issue were

He also noted that the Treasury would be faced with a re

funding of $9 billion of maturing certificates on December 1, 1956.

In response to a question from Mr. Mangels as to whether

there would be merit in

setting the next meeting of the Committee

two rather than three weeks hence,

not believe this would help in

Chairman Martin said that he did

the current problem since the Treasury

financing probably would have been announced before October 9.

The

Chairman was inclined to think that the best way the Committee could

sum up the views expressed at this meeting would be to say that in

general the account management should be given latitude,

consistent

with the Committee's directive, to carry on operations in

the light

of the discussion at this meeting.

He added that he personally

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would like the instruction to include a request that any errors

made in

carrying out that program be on the side of ease rather

than of restraint but that the whole operation should, of course,

be consistent with an over-all policy of restraint.

Recognizing

that this was a very difficult program to pursue, he felt that it

was the best the Committee could agree upon in the light of the

discussion at this meeting.

Mr.

not in

Szymczak said that it

was clear that the Committee was

a position now to say exactly how much assistance would have

to be given to the market in

ing, and for that reason it

connection with the Treasury's financ

would be necessary for the management of

the account and the Committee to "play by ear".

Chairman Martin agreed, adding that he thought there was full

agreement that the Committee should do whatever was consistent with

its

responsibility to help the Treasury in its

current financing

problem.

Mr. Robertson said that he would like to make the additional

suggestion that perhaps this was the kind of situation in which re

purchase agreements should be made available at a rate below the

discount rate in order to aid dealers in helping to make a market

for the issues that would be offered in the Treasury financing, and

he suggested that in

the event the Manager of the Account believed

such authority was needed, he take it upon himself through the

Secretary of the Committee to bring to the attention of the Committee

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a request for additional authority.

In response to a question from Mr. Hayes as to whether this

would be of substantial help, Mr. Rouse said that this would depend

on the rate situation, in view of the provision in the existing

authority for repurchase agreements that they be at a rate no lower

than the lower of (1) the discount rate of the Federal Reserve Bank

or (2)

the average issuing rate on the latest issue of Treasury bills.

Chairman Martin said that he thought it

was clear that the

Committee wished to do whatever would be most effective in the way

of helping with the forthcoming issue of Treasury securities, and

Mr. Hayes commented that he knew of no disagreement with that state

ment.

Mr.

change in

Rouse having indicated that he had no recommendation for

the Committee's directive, Chairman Martin suggested that

the Committee approve the directive without change in

language or the dollar limitations in it,

that it

would be carried out in

either the

and with the understanding

the light of the discussion at this

meeting.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, the Committee voted

unanimously to direct the Federal Re

serve Bank of New York until otherwise

directed by the Committee:

(1)

To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges (in

cluding replacement of maturing securities, and allowing

maturities to run off without replacement) for the System

open market account in the open market or, in the case of

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maturing securities, by direct exchange with the Treasury,

as may be necessary in the light of current and prospective

economic conditions and the general credit situation of the

country, with a view (a) to relating the supply of funds in

the market to the needs of commerce and business, (b) to

restraining inflationary developments in the interest of

sustainable economic growth, and (c) to the practical ad

ministration of the account; provided that the aggregate

amount of securities held in the System account (including

commitments for the purchase or sale of securities for the

account) at the close of this date, other than special

short-term certificates of indebtedness purchased from

time to time for the temporary accommodation of the Treas

ury, shall not be increased or decreased by more than $1

billion;

(2)

To purchase direct from the Treasury for the

account of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with

discretion, in cases where it seems desirable, to issue

participations to one or more Federal Reserve Banks) such

amounts of special short-term certificates of indebtedness

as may be necessary from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury; provided that the total

amount of such certificates held at any one time by the

Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in the aggregate

$500 million;

To sell direct to the Treasury from the System

(3)

account for gold certificates such amounts of Treasury

securities maturing within one year as may be necessary

from time to time for the accommodation of the Treasury;

provided that the total amount of such securities so sold

shall not exceed in the aggregate $500 million face amount,

and such sales shall be made as nearly as may be practicable

at the prices currently quoted in the open market.

Chairman Martin then referred to the proposal that had been made

by the New York Bank for authority to engage in swaps of Treasury bills

and asked Mr. Rouse whether he had any additional comments to make re

garding the proposal in view of the suggestion that Mr. Robertson had

made at the preceding meeting as to limitations on the authority.

Mr. Rouse stated that he had expressed his feelings at some

length both orally and in memorandum form and that he did not now have

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anything to add to his earlier comments.

Mr. Robertson said that he would like to withdraw his sug

gested resolution as presented at the meeting on September 11 be

cause he did not think the Committee should force the management

of the account to accept a resolution of that type.

Since the reso

lution would not serve the purpose that he had had in mind in pro

posing it,

he would prefer to withdraw it and to suggest that the

Committee take no action on the New York Bank's request for authority

to engage in swaps in Treasury bills.

Mr. Hayes said that discussions he had had with his staff

regarding Mr. Robertson's proposed resolution had brought out the

difficulties that would be created by making it

a complete go-around of all

engaging in

it

necessary to have

dealers every time the System contemplated

a swap transaction.

On the other hand, he thought that

would be quite feasible and desirable if

the System needed some

swaps to remind the market on a given day that it was interested in

swaps and thus to "needle" the market to come to the Bank with what

ever offerings it might have.

He raised the question whether such

procedure would go far enough to meet Mr. Robertson's suggestion.

Mr. Robertson said that this would not go far enough to suit

him; it

would be a device for the purpose of enabling a dealer to

meet the demands of one of his customers,

and he did not think the

account would be accomplishing what was contemplated by the original

suggestion for changing the maturity pattern of the System's portfolio

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at its initiative.

Mr. Hayes said that his suggestion did not contemplate that

such an announcement would be made every day but only if

the System

had a particular need for changing the maturity pattern of its

ings.

Even then the System would only make such swaps if

the need.

it

hold

felt

He did not have in mind that the System account would

formally notify everyone in the market of each need for swaps.

In response to a question from Mr. Robertson as to why the

latter procedure should not be followed, Messrs. Hayes and Rouse

responded that such a procedure would not be desirable for the

reasons stated in

the memorandum distributed by Mr. Rouse under

date of September 21, 1956, particularly because it

would tend to

distort the market.

Mr. Erickson inquired whether swaps along the lines proposed

by the New York Bank would be of assistance in the period we are now

entering.

Mr. Rouse said he thought such authority probably would be of

assistance although he could not say that it

like to have the authority and thought it

the Manager of the Account in

Mr.

was crucial.

He would

would be of assistance to

carrying out System policy.

Vardaman said that he had studied this proposal thoroughly

but that he could not support any form of swaps at the present time,

much as he would like to do anything that would facilitate the operation

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of the System account at the present.

He added the comment that this

view did not indicate a lack of confidence in

the trading desk but was

a matter of principle and that he felt to engage in

swaps injected a

feature into open market operations which should not be there,

Chairman Martin said that in view of the differences of opinion

it

would seem best to pass the question for the present time.

He would

make the general observation, he said, that he felt more strongly than

ever the inadequacies of the Government market at the present time,

both as to dealers and as to bankers,

and that in

his opinion the Com

mittee should go further into a study of every aspect of the market.

He cited a comment by the chairman and president of a large bank

recently who stated that he had no feeling of responsibility to the

Government securities market whatsoever,

Martin) felt

in

a statement which he (Chairman

indicated a lack of proper attitude on the part of a person

that position at a time when we were facing one of the most crucial

Government securities offering in

recent years.

The fact that such an attitude existed, however,

pointed up the

necessity for the System's pursuing a review of the problems that it

had

been wrestling with and for recognizing that the techniques and the

problems of the Treasury and of the money managers had not found a

solution that was adequate.

Mr.

Rouse added a comment as to the attitude he understood had

been shown at a recent meeting of a Committee of the New York Clearing

House,

which was described as lacking in

appreciation of the problems

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facing the Treasury and the System.

Mr. Hayes said that this matter was very important and one

he had in mind.

The comments that Chairman Martin and Mr. Rouse had

cited were not uniform, he said, and there were bankers who did have

a sense of responsibility.

Mr. Balderston inquired whether any additional authority with

respect to repurchase agreements along the lines suggested by Mr.

Robertson should be given at this meeting, and it

in

the event Mr.

was understood that

Rouse felt additional authority was needed he would

bring the matter to the attention of the Committee.

It

was agreed unanimously that the next meeting of the Com

mittee would be held at 10:00 o'clock on Tuesday, October 16, 1956.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1956, September 24). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19560925
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19560925,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1956},
  month = {Sep},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19560925},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}