fomc minutes · July 29, 1957

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held

in the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

System in Washington on Tuesday,

PRESENT:

July 30, 1957,

at 10:00 a.m.

Mr. Martin, Chairman

Mr. Hayes, Vice Chairman

Mr. Allen

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Balderston

Bryan

Leedy

Mills

Shepardson

Vardaman

Williams

Messrs. Fulton, Irons, Leach, and Mangels, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Erickson, Johns, and Deming, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, St. Louis,

and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Riefler, Secretary

Thurston, Assistant Secretary

Solomon, Assistant General Counsel

Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Atkinson, Marget, Roelse, and Tow,

Associate Economists

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Carpenter, Secretary, Board of Governors

Kenyon, Assistant Secretary, Board of Governors

Noyes, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Koch, Assistant Director, Division of Research

and Statistics

Mr. Miller, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board of

Governors

Mr. Gaines, Manager, Securities Department, Federal

Reserve Bank of New York

Messrs.

Hostetler,

Daane, Abbott, and Rice, Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of

Cleveland, Richmond, St. Louis, and Dallas,

respectively; Messrs. Holland and Einsig,

Assistant Vice Presidents, Federal Reserve

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-2Banks of Chicago and San Francisco,

respectively; Mr. Willis, Economic

Adviser, Federal Reserve Bank of

Boston; Mr. Anderson, Financial Econo

mist, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia;

and Mr. Hellweg, Economist, Federal Reserve

Bank of Minneapolis

Chairman Martin extended an invitation to all those in attendance

at this meeting to remain for luncheon in the Board's dining rooms with

Mr. Robert B. Anderson, who was sworn in yesterday as Secretary of the

Treasury to succeed Mr. Humphrey.

The Chairman then noted the absence on vacation of Mr.

Assistant Secretary of the Committee,

Sherman,

and suggested that Mr. Kenyon be

authorized to perform for this meeting the services customarily performed

by Mr.

Sherman in connection with the preparation of the minutes.

being no objection, it

There

was understood that Mr. Kenyon would serve in the

capacity mentioned.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members of

the Committee a report prepared at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

covering open market operations during the period July 9, 1957, through

July 24,

1957, as well as a supplementary report covering commitments

executed July 25 through July 29, 1957.

Copies of both reports have

been placed in the files of the Federal Open Market Committee.

Mr. Rouse reported that developments during the period since the

last meeting had been dominated by the large Treasury financing and by

perverse net borrowed reserve figures.

In the first

statement week, the

projections for net borrowed reserves underestimated the actual level, with

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the result that purchases of bills were necessary to maintain an even

keel.

Subsequently, the projections overestimated net borrowed re

serves so that, despite sales of bills from the System Account, net

borrowed reserves have tended to be relatively low.

inaccuracy of the projections,

tion has worked out well.

however, Mr.

In spite of the

Rouse said that the situa

Although net borrowed reserves have been

low, bill rates have risen in competition with the rate available on

the new 3-5/8 per cent certificates.

The average rate in yesterday's

auction of bills was 3.36 per cent against 3.17 per cent a week earlier.

Mr.

Rouse went on to say that the response to the Treasury offer

ing initially was good.

But by late Monday morning, several announce

ments of new corporate financing plans and syndicate breakups created

an air of discouragement in

the market.

Also, the market letters that

morning called attention to the possibility of increases in the dis

count rate and the prime rate.

These influences put a damper on the

financing through Tuesday afternoon, as prices of outstanding Govern

ment issues adjusted to the terms of the new offering. In spite of

the uncertainty at times during the exchange, however, Mr. Rouse noted

that the result was satisfactory, with attrition of only $1.1 billion.

Turning to a review of developments in the immediate future,

Mr. Rouse said that $276 million of System repurchase agreements will

run off on Thursday, August 1, and principally as a result of this

withdrawal of funds net borrowed reserves will climb to a $600-700

million range.

It

is

anticipated that net borrowed reserves will

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then remain in this range for two weeks,

of the mid-August float expansion.

before dipping at the time

The major problem immdiately

ahead is again related to Treasury financing.

While the attrition

on the August maturities was only slightly more than $700 million,

the Treasury will still

first

have a narrow squeeze getting through the

ten days or so of August.

securities before that time, it

If

they do not sell marketable

may prove necessary for them to run

down their balances at the Reserve Banks temporarily, in which case

sales from the System Account could be used to offset the release of

funds.

At the conclusion of Mr. Rouse's report, Mr.

Mills called

attention to the sharp increase in net borrowed reserves on Thursday,

as the System repurchase agreements mature, and asked if

change might not be too abrupt.

problem at that time,

Mr.

the projected

Rouse replied that there may be a

since dealers will have to find financing for new

securities they have not yet sold as well as for the unsold portion of

the $400 million of new bills the dealers were awarded in yesterday's

auction.

If

the pressure on the money market from this source should

threaten to become too intense, it

might prove necessary for the System

to grant some repurchase agreements.

Mr.

it

Mills then commented that if

this were to prove necessary,

would delay the reinstitution of the degree of reserve pressure that

had been maintained prior to the Treasury operations.

With respect to

the lower net borrowed reserves over the past several days, Mr. Mills

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asked if

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there had been any tendency in

serve figures as suggesting a shift in

the market to view these re

System policy.

Mr. Rouse

replied that he had heard no comments of this sort, and pointed out

that the fact bill rates have risen rapidly, to a point close to 3.40

per cent, would indicate that the market has not really been easy.

Returning to the discussion of Treasury financing, Mr. Leach

asked what the Treasury's financing schedule will be after they get

through the first half of August.

is very difficult.

Mr. Rouse responded that the schedule

The debt ceiling will permit the Treasury to borrow

only about $2 billion in late August or early September, which would

mean that they would have to be back in the market in late September

or early October, when the debt ceiling again will probably prevent

them from borrowing more than about $2 billion.

This sum would scarcely

carry them through October, and an additional amount would have to be

borrowed whenever the debt ceiling permitted.

Because of the debt limit,

the Treasury will have to conduct its cash financing in small pieces,

and the New York Bank estimates--which Mr. Rouse understood to be quite

close to the Board staff's estimates--show that the Treasury will have

to have an increase in the debt limit to get through the year unless it

can be avoided by a reduction in

expenditure and the use of enlarged

agency financing--Fannie Mae mortgage liquidation notes, for example.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the open market

transactions during the period July 9

through July 29, 1957, were approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

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Chairman Martin called upon Mr.

Noyes for a statement on the

economic situation, supplementary to the information contained in the

staff memorandum distributed under date of July 26, 1957.

Mr. Noyes'

statement was as follows:

In glancing over the notes for previous reviews of the

economic outlook this year, I observe that, with justice and

commendable caution, my colleagues have referred to the

economic situation as "mixed."

Developments in the economy

might still

be described as mixed--but the mixture seems to

be growing richer as the year progresses.

Industrial production was steady at 143 in June and

indications are that it will hold this level in July despite

the work stoppage in the cement industry and some sizable

cuts in defense contracts.

Prices are up--to new highs--both at wholesale and retail,

and there is every indication that they will increase further

in July.

Average hourly earnings increased by one per cent in May

and by the same amount again in June.

Scheduled wage rate in

creases both in existing and newly negotiated contracts seem

certain to push the hourly average up further in July and

August.

Revised data indicate that we have enjoyed a slightly

larger gross national product than we thought at the time in

recent years.

The rate for the second quarter of this year is

now estimated at $433.5 billion--up about one per cent from the

first

quarter and 5.5 per cent from a year ago.

This is some

what more than the experts anticipated and they hasten to

remind us that a large part of the increase reflects rising

prices and inventory accumulation in anticipation of further

rises--hardly a sound basis for economic growth.

Over all, construction is strong and despite Mr. Leavitt's

protestations to the President that it is a depressed industry,

housing starts have held close to the million unit annual rate.

It is interesting, but not reassuring, that residential build

ing costs have again turned upward, after almost a year of

relative stability.

Automobiles haven't moved quite so well in recent weeks as

they did in June, but the increased scheduling by major manu

facturers for the third quarter indicates continued confidence.

three weeks of July, department stores en

In the first

joyed unusually favorable sales for this time of year and, if

they continue at this rate for the remainder of the month, they

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will carry the Board's index to 133 per cent of the 1947-49

average--well above the level of other recent months.

This month four European central banks have increased

their discount rates and reports indicate that inflationary

pressures persist in Asia, South America, and other parts

of the world as well.

Chairman Martin next called upon Mr.

Thomas for a review of

recent credit and financial developments, and Mr. Thomas presented

the following statement:

During July there was some moderation of tightness in

money and securities markets. The principal developments

of the period were the continuation of a relatively large

volume of new corporate security issues, the completion of

a massive Treasury refunding operation, and substantial

reduction in bank loans and investments following a sharp

increase in June.

Money rates and bond yields declined

from the peak levels reached at the end of June, but con

tinued firm and showed some rising tendency toward the end

of the period.

The tone of markets throughout the world

continues to reflect an inflationary psychology.

Completion of Treasury refunding for August and October

in one large operation relieves the money market of an over

hanging threat.

The terms of the financing were more real

istic

with respect to the current and possible future state

of the money market than had been the case in some time.

The results can be considered as satisfying with respect

both to the moderate size of the attrition and to the

distribution of the exchanges among the alternatives.

The

relatively moderate volume of the exchanges into the December

maturity makes the handling of a refunding at that difficult

time less worrisome than was feared. The favorable reception

to the longest issue serves to diminish some of the liquidity

available from the large volume of short-term issues out

standing and also provides an example of a new procedure

that might be useful in other financings.

By no neans, however, are the problems of Treasury

The Treasury

financing all solved for the rest of the year.

cash balance declined much more in July than had previously

The attrition of $1.1 billion in the refund

been expected.

ing operation, although less than on some recent occasions,

was nevertheless larger than could be desired as a regular

practice.

Treasury purchases of securities in the market

Redemptions of savings bonds

have also exerted a cash drain.

have continued large. With existing higher rates on outstanding

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marketable issues such redemptions present a constant threat

to the Treasury balance.

It appears certain that the Treasury will need to raise

$2 billion or more of new money probably as early as the

middle of August.

Four billion additional will be needed

early in October, partly to cover the $1.5 billion tax bill

maturing in September.

Some of these needs could be met by

increasing the regular weekly bill offer by $200 or $300 mil

lion each week; others by tax anticipation issues.

Corporate new capital issues in July are likely to

aggregate $1 billion, which is more than had been expected.

While the calendar of prospective new issues is comparatively

light for the first

half of August, there will be a substantial

volume in the last half of that month and in future months.

Issues of State and local governments continue fairly large

with plenty more on the waiting list

or in the planning stage.

Reception of new issues has been more favorable in recent

weeks than earlier.

This may be attributed in part to higher

offering rates and more limited call provisions on many issues.

Outstanding bonds rated AAA are now yielding 4 per cent, after

declining some earlier in July. Yields on new issues have also

resumed their upward trend. Treasury bond yields have risen

further.

Prices of common stocks have declined somewhat in the past

two weeks after rising earlier in the month to highest levels

in nearly a year.

Trading has been moderately active. For

several weeks yields on high-grade common stocks at current

prices and dividend rates have been below yields in seasoned

time in over 20 years. This

high-grade bonds for the first

relationship reflects the current inflation psychology.

half

Review of general credit developments for the first

of this year shows that total credit growth in the period, as

indicated by preliminary estimates, was in about the same

half of last year. The principal forms

volume as in the first

of private debt showed a smaller increase in the aggregate,

but the net reduction in Federal Government debt of $7 billion

was less than the nearly $10 billion reduction in the first

Mortgage credit expansion was about $2 billion

half of 1956.

less than in the same period of 1956 and $3 billion less than

Consumer instalment credit growth at $800 million

in 1955.

was moderately less than last year and only a third of the

Increases in business and other

increase shown two years ago.

loans at commercial banks were barely half last year's volume

The principal increases were in

and also less than in 1955.

issues of corporate and municipal securities, which offset

only a part of the decreases.

As a net result, the t otal growth in the major types of

credit, other than the United States Government debt, was

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somewhat smaller in the first

half of this year than in the

same period of both 1956 and 1955.

The continued rise in

interest rates in face of the slackening in private credit

growth can probably be attributed to the increased diffi

culty of liquidating United States Government securities

in order to shift to other assets.

This change is due in

part to the reduction in Treasury debt retirement, but

probably also to the lessened availability of idle cash

that could be attracted into investment.

Following an exceptionally sharp increase in bank loans

during June, there has been a marked decline in July at banks

in leading cities.

Just as the June expansion was larger

than a year ago, the July contraction was also greater.

For

the two months taken together there were net increases of

close to $800 million in each year, using partial figures

for the latest week.

Banks have disposed of some of the

additional Government securities acquired in connection

with the new money financing operation at the beginning of

July, and for June and July together show a net decrease in

their holdings, although a smaller decline than in the same

period last year.

Total loans and investments for the two

months show a small increase compared with a small decrease

in the same period last year,

Demand deposits declined sharply in the first

week of

July but since then have increased fairly substantially,

but for the two months of June and July the growth at city

banks was a little

less than a year ago.

The time deposits

growth, which was so large earlier this year, has shown a

pronounced slackening.

United States Government deposits

have declined sharply from the peak reached on July 3 but

have shown a net increase for the past two months compared

with a sharp decline during the same period last year,

reflecting primarily a difference in Treasury financing

dates.

The rate of turnover of demand deposits, outside

financial centers, continues to increase at a pace which,

sufficient to finance

though slackened somewhat, is still

continued growth in economic activity with some price rise.

Member bank reserve positions eased considerably in

the past two weeks from the tight situation that prevailed

at the beginning of the month. Some of the decreased tight

ness is due to the decline, largely seasonal, in bank credit

and the post-holiday return flow of currency, as well as to

continuation of a rather large volume of float. System

holdings of Government securities, which increased con

siderably early in July, were subsequently reduced only

moderately, as repurchase contracts to finance dealers'

acquisitions of rights were not fully offset by outright

sales.

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Although net borrowed reserves, which declined from

over $700 million early in the month to below $200 million

last week, may average little

over $200 million for this

statement week, there will be a sharp increase to well over

$600 million on Thursday.

During most of the remainder of

this year occasional purchases of the securities by the

System will be needed to provide for seasonal factors.

Most if not all of these might be met through occasional

repurchase contracts until near the end of the year.

If strong demands for credit in excess of seasonal

needs should lead to an increased volume of member bank

borrowing, then discount rate increases would be essential.

Since the existing discount rate is now so far out of line

with market rates and since steady borrowing by some banks

continues in substantial volume, increases to as high as

3-1/2 per cent would be appropriate now, at least in some

districts. A question of timing, however, may be raised

because of the just completed Treasury refunding operation

and the need for cash financing in the immediate future.

Although recent credit expansion has been moderate, the

world-wide atmosphere of ebullience and the tendency to

accept inflation as inevitable seems to call for continued

restraint through whatever monetary and fiscal measures

may be feasible.

In response to an inquiry by Mr. Balderston regarding the

change in the money supply since the first

of May, Mr.

Thomas said

that on a seasonally adjusted basis there was a relatively small de

crease in

May and that preliminary figures for June indicated a small

increase in approximately an offsetting amount.

For July it appeared

likely that there might be a small decrease but not very much.

In

general, it appeared that the changes in the money supply had been

in accord with the usual seasonal pattern.

Mr. Hayes then made a statement on the business and credit

situation and credit policy as set forth below:

to add to

It seems to me that there is very little

in

developed

the picture of the economy which has been

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recent meetings. Such new data as have become available,

while indicative of divergent trends in various areas, do

not alter the over-all impression of a sidewise movement

and provide no clue as to the direction and intensity of

the next major change in economic activity.

Newly revised figures on expenditures for producers

durable goods tend to confirm a leveling out of plant ex

penditures. While inventories rose moderately in the second

quarter, this seems to have reflected primarily a disappoint

ing volume of sales rather than a policy of deliberate ac

cumulation. Widespread business optimism with respect to

the fourth quarter rests to a considerable extent on hopes

of a resurgence of consumer buying. In this connection the

latest Michigan Survey suggests a somewhat more cautious

attitude than seven months ago. Also there seem to be a

growing number of economists who look upon the outlook as

"mixed" or "spotty." In spite of the fact that Federal

Government expenditures are higher than expected, I think

it is fair to say that the economy is at the moment rela

tively free from broad demand pressures. The price picture,

however, continues to be a source of grave concern.

Bank credit developments in the past four weeks do not

seem especially significant, except that the Treasury's

larger cash requirements this year have prevented as great

a decline in bank credit as occurred a year earlier. How

ever, we estimate that the money supply will not show any

appreciable net growth for the year as a whole. Velocity

continued to rise in the second quarter, contrary to earlier

indications. Most banks in New York are still feeling heavy

pressure for loans and at the moment are concerned about the

CCC cotton financing on August 16 which may amount to $400

million or more for the entire country. The capital markets

have been under a renewed severe strain, mainly because of

the seemingly unending prospect of heavy new corporate offer

ings, the volume of which as yet shows no reflection of the

leveling tendency of plant expenditures.

Turning to credit policy, I would like to dwell for a few

moments on some of the basic considerations which I feel we

should bear in mind. It seems clear to me that the application

of monetary policy is going through a testing period which is

one of the most difficult in the System's history. For over

two and a half years we have been following a policy of re

straint, and interest rates have risen steadily. In the last

month or two, bond yields have risen about as fast as in any

previous period of comparable length. In spite of our efforts,

prices have shown a disturbing degree of imperviousness to

monetary restraint for more than a year. The Treasury after

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showing great reluctance to face the facts of this interest

rate rise, has at last accepted these facts and has priced

the latest issues realistically. The relative success of

the offering should not cause us to overlook the fact that

there were moments when the result seemed pretty doubtful,

nor that the size of this refunding pointed up the in

adequacies of the existing mechanism for underwriting

Treasury securities.

These inadequacies may become in

creasingly evident, with additional heavy refundings in

prospect over the coming year, as bank and corporate

liquidity continues under pressure.

It is hard to measure the degree of public acceptance

of Federal Reserve policy.

The extent of acceptance seems

to me encouragingly broad, but there is constant danger of

our policies being made a major political issue, and the

high degree of public interest in the subject increases the

risk of public revulsion and political attack if our policies

should misfire. In other words, I feel that we are in a

sufficiently critical phase to warrant very considerable

caution. As Governor Balderston aptly put it at the last

meeting, the System seems to be climbing a canyon with ever

rising walls.

Now I am quite ready to admit that it is exceedingly

frustrating to see prices edging up month after month in

spite of our best efforts, and I can see the natural appeal

of the argument that what we should do is to tighten credit

further and see if that will prove any more effective. How

ever, appealing though this argument is, I think it involves

place, there is enough un

unwarranted risks. In the first

certainty as to which way the economy is going to move next

so that we must give serious thought to the consequences to

the System if we are later blamed for recession and sub

stantial unemployment. In the second place, we cannot be

at all certain that even greater strains and tighter money

and higher interest rates would do the trick. If they did

not, we would merely have compounded the Treasury's troubles

and intensified political opposition to monetary policy, to

no purpose.

It seems to me clear that the prudent course is to con

tinue doing what we have been doing, keeping the banking

system under substantial but not overwhelming pressure, pre

venting any national expansion in bank credit and the money

supply, and allowing reduced liquidity to take effect on the

economy.

In terms of immediate open market policy, I think we

should maintain about the same degree of pressure as we

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have in recent months.

If our current projections prove

accurate, this may call for a minimum of transactions in

the next three weeks. If we should have occasion to make

any open market purchases in the third week of August, it

might be useful to buy acceptances in amounts somewhat

greater than usual in view of their probable availability.

I think we would be wise to leave the discount rate un

changed at this time, both to avoid the accusation of

having "let down" investors in Treasury securities im

mediately after completion of the refunding, and because

I see no justification in the economic situation for a

signal that we believe intensified restraint is in order.

The capital markets are already subject to strong upward

rate pressure, and an increase in the discount rate would

tend to validate the recent rate advances and to set the

stage for the next notching up of rates. Conscious System

action to generate higher capital market rates would not

be consistent with the present general stability in the

economy. I do not know whether the prime rate is to be

advanced in the near future, but even if it is I think

we should not necessarily be forced into action by such

a move and we should have in mind that the market tends

to look upon a change in the discount rate as generally

reflecting a change in the System's policy intentions.

No such change seems justified at the present time.

Mr.

with all

tendency,

Johns said that he found himself thoroughly in

aspects of the statement by Mr. Hayes.

even a temptation, to look back a little

agreement

He discerned a

way and observe

the price changes which had occurred almost continuously and to con

clude that monetary policy should have been more restrictive.

While

he was not disposed to argue with that conclusion, he was inclined to

feel that the Committee should be cautious about translating such a

conclusion into a decision at this time to become significantly more

restrictive in order to attempt to repair what might be regarded as

oversights or errors in the past.

On the basis of his impression of

the state of economy--whichwas about the same as that of Mr. Hayes-

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he found it impossible to come to the conclusion that System policy

should become significantly "tougher."

He made it

clear,

however,

that in making this statement he was referring only to the short run.

At the present time, Mr.

the time for a change in

record of member banks in

Johns said, he was not convinced that

the discount rate had arrived.

From the

the St. Louis District, there seemed to be

no reason for an increase in the rate to inhibit borrowing,

appeared that in

for it

all cases the borrowing was for the purpose of

effecting short-run adjustment of reserve positions.

Therefore, he

would not like to be in the forefront of a rate movement.

Also,

having in mind the recent and prospective Treasury financing operations,

he had some doubt whether a rate change should be made within the next

three weeks.

However,

he would not want to look any further ahead

than that at this time.

Mr.

Bryan reported that in the past three weeks there had been

no significant economic developments in the Atlanta District.

ment remained high, at practically the record levels of May,

appeared to be no summer letdown.

looked at payrolls.

Employ

and there

The same thing was true when one

Construction contracts for the first

five months

of 1957 were substantially above the same period last year, and banks

seemed to be tending to make loans at a somewhat faster rate.

With respect to Federal

Reserve policy, Mr. Bryan said that

he was rather troubled by some of the statements now being made about

the sidewise movement in the economy.

It

was important to his own

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thinking that this sidewise movement was occurring in physical terms

rather than in value terms,

is

measured.

Therefore,

for it

he felt it

is

in

the latter that inflation

was possible to be misled by

putting emphasis on the sidewise movement.

course,

He was concerned,

of

about the problem of public understanding and public reaction

to System policy,

and he recognized that the System had a fundamental

obligation not only to follow a correct policy but to make i

stood and acceptable.

However,

he believed that a mistake could easily

be made by thinking in terms of policy too much "in

political con

nections," and he felt that the System would be better off in

run if

it

done.

Thus,

under

the long

simply did straightforwardly those things that needed to be

the question on which he would lay greater emphasis was

whether a tightening of policy was needed.

He could see no essential

difference between the situation now and six or three weeks ago.

other words,

In

nothing new had come into the picture that would seem to

require more restraint than if

circumstances,

the System had acted then.

In the

he was puzzled as to what reasons could be given for

tightening now that could not have been advanced previously.

Like

Messrs. Hayes and Johns, he was concerned about the reaction if the

System were to tighten immediately after a Treasury financing opera

tion of such magnitude as the recent one, for he felt that any such

action would almost certainly be misinterpreted.

Mr.

Williams referred to his statement at the last meeting

of the Committee concerning the increase in member bank borrowing

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from the Philadelphia Reserve Bank and the decision of the Bank to

deal with the problem through firmer administration at the discount

window.

Since that time, he said, there had been discussions with

the two principal borrowing banks, in

each case preceded by a re

quest that the bank's representatives be prepared to discuss the

period ahead in

specific terms,

to state their objectives,

and to

indicate how they were attempting to attain those objectives.

the same time, the Reserve Bank emphasized that it

of trying to manage the institutions.

At

had no intention

Mr. Williams went on to say

that the results were more satisfactory than anything that the Re

serve Bank had attempted heretofore.

Both banks had analysed in

detail their present situation and prospects,

plans for improving their liquidity.

While these plans varied in

certain respects as between the two banks, it

that the plans, if

ment.

and both had formalized

appeared in

carried out, would result in

each case

substantial improve

The next two months, he said, were critical because there is

normally a seasonal runoff, and the Reserve Bank was already thinking

in

terms of further steps in the event that the member banks did not

carry out their plans.

He also said that the Reserve Bank was now

moving over to discussions with country banks in the district's

resort area to see what was in

prospect for those banks, for it

would not want to see a repetition of past performance.

The Reserve

Bank recognized the dangers in this type of procedure but was trying

to avoid them, and on the whole it believed that this type of action

was worth while.

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Mr. Williams said that there were no clearly discernible trends.

Part of the area was experiencing severe drought, but there had been

a slight gain in the industrial level and residential construction

awards were somewhat above last year.

banks in

Loans were down a little at

the district, while member bank borrowing was heavier than

a year ago.

Mr.

Williams said he had had no discussion with the

Bank's Board of Directors regarding the discount rate since the last

meeting of the Open Market Committee,

and in

the meantime he had no

recommendations for change in policy.

Mr. Fulton reported that in talking with businessmen and

manufacturers he had found a surprisingly high degree of optimism,

largely on the basis that the fourth quarter of the year was expected

to be very good.

The steel business was down somewhat, with the

Pittsburgh rate above the national average and the Youngstown

Cleveland-Lorain rates below the average.

that when the automobile industry began its

the operating rate would be higher.

It was expected, however,

orders for the new models,

There had been a drop in the

demand for stainless steel and titanium due to changes in

Government

orders reflecting increasing emphasis on guided missiles and less on

aircraft.

Production of automotive parts was holding up fairly well,

but those foundries doing job business and making small parts for

appliances were not doing well.

The appliance industry was in

the

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doldrums to quite a severe extent, and some appliance manufacturers

were reported to be stopping deliveries for the next 30 days.

general pick-up should not take place in

there might be a deterioration in

However,

If a

the month of September,

the whole psychology of businessmen.

there was no indication of any postponement of plans because

of the cost of money.

Many people were saying that they were con

cerned about inflation, but on the other hand they were adding to

the pressure by going ahead with whatever plans they had already

formulated.

Housing starts had improved, there appeared to be some

easing in the availability of mortgage money,

and retail sales, while

showing no gain as compared with last year, nevertheless were quite

high.

Member banks were borrowing with no apparent inhibitions, the

volume of borrowing in

last year.

recent weeks being more than twice that of

The Reserve Bank had had a number of discussions with

them, but the member banks claimed there had been an outflow of

deposits from the district--which they expected to get back--and that

the demand for loans was very heavy.

They expected a further increase

in loan totals in the final quarter of the year.

Mr.

Fulton expressed the view that in the past couple of weeks

the pressure exerted on the banking system through open market opera

tions had been too light, and he was hopeful that it would be possible

to get back to a level of approximately $600 million of net borrowed

reserves.

Something around that level, he felt, would reflect a

policy of real firmness and would be so understood.

If the prime

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rate should be raised, he would favor increasing the discount rate,

but he did not think that the Reserve Banks ought to make the change

themselves at this time, for such action might mistakenly be regarded

as a change in policy.

On the other hand, he would be prompt in

following any change in the prime rate.

Mr. Shepardson expressed concern about the apparently wide

spread extent of the feeling that further inflation was inevitable.

He recalled that at the last two meetings of the Committee he was

very much in favor of moving further in the direction of restraint.

At present he did not think that the situation was substantially

different.

While he was somewhat apprehensive about a change at

this time immediately after the Treasury financing, nevertheless he

still had a great deal of concern regarding the prevalence of the

attitude he had mentioned, and also about the continuing upward

price movement.

It was his view that there should be more pressure

in terms of negative reserves than had been the case recently, and

he felt that developing conditions might soon make a change in the

discount rate feasible.

Mr. Mills expressed the view that the economic situation, as

pictured, would call for a continuing policy of credit restraint, and

he gathered that the sentiment of those who had spoken at this meeting

was in favor of attempting to regain as rapidly as practicable the

degree of restraint that was exerted prior to the Treasury financing.

This would appear to mean regaining that degree of restraint at the

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same time that an increasing volume of new security offerings would

be coming into the market.

The pressure on the capital markets.,

working at the same time as the pressure that would be placed on the

reserves of the banking system, would very likely result in an in

creasing tendency of rates to rise.

it

If

that assumption was correct,

followed that a 3 per cent discount rate would very quickly be

come entirely out of line, and an increase in the rate then would do

no more than recognize the existence of a condition that had materi

alized out of the course of events.

These,

he believed, were the

developments that could be anticipated if the System succeeded in

regaining the proper degree of pressure on bank reserves.

It

might

be a mistake, he said, to look at an increase in the discount rate

as reflecting a change in the direction of System policy rather than

a recognition of the existence of market events that had necessitated

a change in

the rate.

Bearing in mind all of these considerations, it

was his feeling that the rate should be raised, very probably to 3-1/2

per cent, before the Treasury's next financing operation and before the

seasonal demand for bank credit gained momentum.

delayed beyond that time, it

If

the increase were

might well give the impression of a

change in System policy rather than a recognition of events that had

already occurred.

He did not share the feeling that an increase in

the near future in

the discount rate would be widely regarded as

signalling a major change in policy.

made shortly, would in

The discount rate change, if

a very real sense reflect changes in

the

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interest rate structure of the capital markets rather than a change

in

the availability of credit for short-term purposes.

It

to him that the careful analyst would regard a change in

seemed

the discount

rate as a reflection of the cost of credit rather than a change in

System policy in the direction of restricting the availability of

credit.

Mr. Vardaman said that for the present he was not attempting

to go beyond thinking on a "week-to-week" basis.

While he agreed

with Mr.

Bryan's comment about the sidewise movement in the economy

being in

physical rather than value terms, he did not believe that

a change in

the discount rate at the present time would have anything

other than a potentially disastrous psychological effect.

that it

He doubted

would have any practical effect on the price movement.

general terms, he found himself in

presented by Mr.

Hayes.

In

full agreement with the views

He would make no change in the Open Market

Committee's directive at this time and he would move along from week

to week, with the understanding that a special meeting of the Com

mittee might have to be called at any time if

developments warranted.

Mr. Leach said that the economy of the Fifth District did not

show any decisive movement in

either direction, current developments

in

the principal industries reflecting mixed changes presently and

in

prospect.

industry,

There were indications of improvement in

the textile

particularly with respect to hosiery, which had recently

increased production following a long slump,

The furniture industry

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continued to have inventory problems and while bituminous coal

production was holding up well, with export shipments the chief

factor of strength, declining shipping rates for coal to Europe

might foreshadow a future decline in shipments.

As to agriculture,

reports indicated substantial damage to crops in certain parts of

the district resulting from drought conditions.

On a daily average

basis, borrowing from the Reserve Bank for the months of May,

June,

and July had remained substantially the same.

With respect to the national situation, Mr. Leach said he was

impressed by the manner in

ments,

which the economy had absorbed many adjust

including the cut-back in inventory buying which now seemed to

have ended.

He expected a definite upturn in the fall even though

there was little

tangible evidence of it

at the moment.

however, tangible evidence that consumer prices were still

and that wholesale prices had turned upward again.

stances, it

There was,

going up

In the circum

seemed to him that there were at least two positions that

one might take at the present time.

First, one might take the

position that the economy was moving sideways, that the System was

doing all that could be expected of monetary policy, and that price

increases could not be stopped without causing a serious downturn.

On the other hand, one might take the position that the System should

tighten further in

an effort to lessen the economy's capacity to

absorb higher prices.

Personally,

Mr.

Leach said, he would take the

latter position, and this meant that he was willing to take whatever

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risk was involved in being a little

more restrictive.

Perhaps it

was not practicable to completely stop price increases through

monetary policy, but he believed that the System had a responsibility

to do all that it

could in

that direction.

of timing, he had thought that it

With regard to the question

would be inappropriate for the System

to become more restrictive just before the Treasury refunding,

and he

now thought that it would likewise be inappropriate for the System to

become more restrictive just after the refunding.

Accordingly, he

would not recommend an increase in the discount rate today and he

would not favor applying any more pressure through open market opera

tions than the System was applying just before the refunding.

Perhaps,

he said, the situation would take care of itself during the next two

or three weeks, and another look could be taken at the picture after

that time.

Mr.

Leedy stated that there had been no significant changes in

the Tenth District in recent weeks,

His principal concern was that in

the course of the Treasury financing operation the System had lost the

tight rein over credit that it

had had prior to that time.

In making

this statement he did not intend to criticize the management of the

System Open Market Account for he recognized the great difficulties

involved, including the fact that in the period of the financing the

management of the account was under severe pressure to avoid develop

ments that might have been disastrous to the refunding operation.

Nevertheless, in viewing the operation from a distance he got the

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feeling that the results had been contrary to what was intended in

adopting the report of the Ad Hoc Subcommittee with respect to opera

tions in the market in connection with Treasury financing.

He sug

gested that aid to the dealers had the effect of accomplishing

indirectly what the Committee had resolved in the report not to do

The first

directly.

objective,

he thought,

should be to regain the

degree of restraint that prevailed before the Treasury financing

operation.

As Mr. Hayes had suggested, the recent experience might

raise a serious question as to the adequacy of the existing mechanism

for underwriting Treasury issues, and it seemed to him that the

difficulty may have been compounded by the rates on repurchase agree

ments.

The rate, Mr. Leedy said, seemed to have lost touch with the

market,

and as a consequence,

it

appeared to him that the System was

the dealers.

bound to be under great pressure to take care of all

The System now found itself

in

a position where it

was more difficult

to carry out its major responsibility; that is, to hold the tight rein

on bank reserves that had been deemed prudent.

discount rate, he felt

a move.

As to a change in the

that this was not the appropriate time for such

However, as Mr. Mills had said, if the System should regain

and maintain the degree of pressure that was intended, it

probably be found necessary to move on the discount rate.

in fact,

the move was now overdue.

At this juncture,

the large Treasury operation hardly out of the way,

would

Perhaps,

however, with

with the problem

of cash financing confronting the Treasury, and with the need for

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digesting the securities that had been issued in exchange, he did not

feel that a change in the discount rate should now be made.

Mr. Allen reported that in

the Seventh District optimism

characterized the business climate and business activity,

continued at a high level.

over all,

In the four weeks ended July 20, depart

ment store sales in the district exceeded those of a year ago,

improvement being a little

The district's

the

better than that of the country as a whole.

part of the steel industry also was doing a little

better than the national figure because Inland Steel had been operating

at 100 per cent of capacity right along.

With regard to the automotive

industry, the projections for the third quarter which he had mentioned

at the last two meetings of the Committee were thus far being borne

out.

The introduction of models in late October and early November

was less assured because the usual "bugs" in the production process

and the machinery required for production were appearing earlier this

year than usual.

nationally in

the area.

The expansion in

bank loans which had taken place

the past six weeks had shown up strongly in banks in

However, due chiefly to the sale of Government securities,

the large Chicago banks were now less active users of the discount

window.

The Detroit banks had been substantial borrowers in

recent

weeks due to a decline in deposits which seemed to occur each year

at about this time, but the last few days had seen some recovery from

that situation.

Savings deposits continued to expand at banks in the

Seventh District, with banks in 45 cities showing a gain in June of

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87 cents per $100 of deposit totals compared with

1956.

43 cents in June

As to residential real estate, the market in the Chicago area

was regarded as weak, with project builders cutting back on new starts

and holding the price line by eliminating frills.

seen further tightening in

availability of funds,

Recent weeks had

the mortgage market from the standpoint of

with the interest rate on conventional mortgages

around 5-3/4 to 6 per cent.

Mr. Allen said that to his way of thinking the policy of credit

restraint that the System had followed for some time should be resumed.

He felt that inflation was still

the big problem.

Consumer price

indexes continued to rise, and of equal importance was the indicated

rise in

July of the industrial component of the wholesale price index

following a marked degree of stability in

the first

half of 1957.

It

was his view that the System should use every available weapon in the

fight on inflation, if

it

concluded that the action would be effective,

and that certainly the brake on the supply of money and credit should

be continued.

Personally,

he believed that industrial management

would continue to grant wage increases without too much argument as

long as it

was found that all

or a large part of the increases could

be added to selling prices.

As to the discount rate, Mr.

creased,

Allen felt that it

and he subscribed to what Mr.

Mills had said.

should be in

The next meeting

of the Chicago directors was scheduled for August 8, and while he was

not personally in

any great rush, he rather expected that a recommenda

tion for an increase in

the rate would be made if

the prime rate had

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gone up in the meantime.

If not, he would probably defer a recom

mendation for a couple of weeks.

He was not prepared to say what

the reaction of the directors might be to such a recommendation.

In conclusion, Mr. Allen said that he concurred fully in what Mr.

Bryan had said with respect to System policy and political considera

tions.

He felt strongly that the System must do what seemed proper

irrespective of such considerations.

Mr.

Deming said that the Ninth District, like the country as

a whole, continued to show some contrasting trends, with the total

picture just a shade less strong than a month ago.

Nonagricultural

activity was being maintained at a high rate, but the early summer

expansion had been a little smaller than in former years.

In non

agricultural production and employment the district was now lagging

slightly behind the nation, while in retail sales and in farm prospects

it was a bit above the national picture.

Mining and lumber activity

was off from last year's level, particularly in western Montana.

Farm

prospects were better than in 1956, although they were not quite as

good now as had been thought earlier.

year ago,

Wheat would be better than a

livestock prices were higher, and farm income prospects were

quite good.

Residential construction was off substantially, but the

price of housing seemed to be strengthening in the Twin Cities, perhaps

a seasonal development.

growth than in

in

Bank loans were showing appreciably more

the comparable period of 1956 and the seasonal upturn

deposits was now stronger than in

1956.

While loan growth for

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1957 to date was smaller than in 1956, this reflected the rather

heavy liquidation of January and February.

Since March, the loan

expansion this year had been larger than a year ago.

In recent weeks

borrowing from the Reserve Bank had been smaller, but it

was still

relatively heavy.

While on their face these developments would seem to argue for

no change in policy, Mr. Deming said, he was in

agreement with Mr.

Bryan's point that the sidewise movement in the economy was in physical

terms and he was impressed by the price picture and the strength of

credit demand.

Assuming that reserves would have to be put into the

market, he felt that they should be put in

at a higher cost.

All in

all, he was inclined to feel that action to increase the discount rate

to 3-1/2 per cent was indicated before the Treasury had to go into the

market again for funds.

He would lean to about the same degree of

restrictiveness in open market operations as had prevailed, and he

would let the banks seek reserves at the discount window at higher

rates.

The directors of the Minneapolis Bank were scheduled to meet

on August 8 and, while he did not know whether there would be any

recommendation at that time for a change in the discount rate, his

present feeling was in favor of such a recommendation in the absence

of interim developments.

Mr.

Mangels characterized recent economic changes in the Twelfth

District as rather minor, although a few developments of some significance

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had occurred.

let

A large aviation plant in

the Los Angeles area had

out some 16,000 employees because of a cutback in

Government

contracts, there had been some strikes, and in southern California

banks had indicated some concern about a slowing up in collections.

However, the Reserve Bank could find no evidence of a major increase

in delinquencies in consumer credit accounts.

In the Seattle area a

large aircraft firm had cut back on overtime payments involving about

46,000 employees.

Department store sales had not changed greatly,

although charge account sales had declined somewhat.

changed appreciably in

dropped off.

Bank loans had

only one category, and bank borrowing

had

However, banks in the district were continuing to

purchase Federal funds greatly in

excess of the amount of their sales.

Mr. Mangels then said that, having listened to the comments at

this meeting, he would not be inclined at the moment to changethe dis

count rate.

He had sensed recently some change in

the thinking of some

of the Bank's directors who had heretofore been inclined to maintain

the existing rate, and there might be some movement at the next meet

ing of the directors on August 14 to increase the rate either to 3-1/

or 3-1/2 per cent.

In his opinion,

taining net borrowed reserves in

If a change should be made in

the System should aim toward main

the vicinity of $400-500 million.

the commercial bank prime rate, he

thought that action should be taken promptly on the discount rate.

Mr. Irons said that he had noticed no change in the optimistic

outlook of businessmen, which continued very strong in the Dallas

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District.

Neither did there seem to be any change in the feeling

on the part of a good many people that there would inevitably con

tinue to be some gradual inflation.

Within the past week, he said,

two bankers had called him to ask whether he sensed, as they did from

their dealings with customers,

of further inflation.

this feeling regarding the inevitability

They had sensed this on the part of would-be

borrowers and their reaction to the higher rates of interest that were

quoted.

Mr.

Irons reported that in general economic conditions in the

district continued strong at a high level, the only soft spot being

the situation in petroleum where stocks had been increasing.

was down a little

Refining

in the district but not enough to prevent some

accumulation of petroleum products.

This situation might be due

largely to imports and some lessened demand for petroleum products,

but within the last three weeks the demand for gasoline had increased

appreciably and now appeared to be at a record level.

Department store

sales had been good and there was a situation of full employment.

The

chemical and aircraft industries were strong, and agricultural condi

tions were generally satisfactory in most parts of the district.

In

the banking field, a very heavy demand for loans was being reported,

some bankers saying the demand was as strong as they had ever seen in

the past.

The bankers maintained they were conscientiously attempting

to restrain loan expansion and indicated that the demands were some

what larger per borrower than had been the case a year ago. Borrowings

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from the Reserve Bank were not unusually high, but there had been

some signs that business at the discount window could be expected

to increase.

On top of the high level of loans, bankers were

anticipating a strong seasonal demand.

Mr. Irons then expressed the view that the System ought to

recapture at least the degree of restraint that had been maintained

up to about ten days ago.

He realized that there were risks on both

sides, but was inclined to think that the risks were greater on the

side of not being sufficiently restrictive.

restraint on reserve positions.

He would favor firm

Such a degree of restraint, however,

if it could be achieved in the next two or three weeks, would lead

to a situation where the discount rate would be even more out of line

than at present.

No meeting of the Dallas directors was scheduled

for August, but if the prime rate were to move he would call a

special meeting immediately.

if

He would also call a special meeting

any of the other Reserve Banks were to raise the discount rate.

He did not feel that a change in

the rate would constitute a "shock

treatment" or indicate a change in

System policy.

In substance, he

agreed generally with the views expressed by Mr. Mills.

Mr. Erickson said that economic conditions in the Boston

District did not differ materially from those indicated by the

national picture.

were down.

Some things in

the district were up, while others

Increases in nonmanfacturing activities continue to push

New England's nonagricultural employment to new highs but manufacturing

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employment was off from last year, due primarily to conditions in

the textile industry.

The vacation business was very good and con

struction awards in May were well ahead of 1956.

However,

such

awards during June lagged somewhat behind the previous year.

The

agricultural situation in the northern part of the district was very

good, but in the southern section conditions were poor due to lack

of rainfall.

In the second quarter activity at the discount window

had been well above 1956, but since July 1 the activity had been less,

both as to the number of banks,

of System total.

Mr.

amount of borrowing,

and percentage

There continued to be a couple of "problem" cases.

Erickson favored regaining as rapidly as possible the

degree of restraint in System policy that prevailed prior to the

Treasury financing.

He would not at this time favor an increase in

the discount rate, but his view might well have changed by the time

of the next Committee meeting.

If the prime rate should be moved up,

he would be inclined to call a meeting of the Bank's directors to

consider increasing the discount rate.

Mr.

Balderston expressed agreement with Mr. Bryan that the

System must follow the policies that it

considered to be right and

proper regardless of possible political consequences.

This,

he said,

was the basic reason why the Congress made the System independent in

the first

instance, and any departure would be in violation of the

System's basic mission.

However,

the question of the right thing to

do at the right time was often hard to resolve.

At present, he

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thought one might tend to be misled by summer doldrums.

One matter

that concerned him was the current heavy loan demand in the face of

the additional demand to be expected in the fall.

As Mr, Williams

had said, the next two months would be critical in getting con

tinuous discounters straightened out before they came in

borrowing later in

the year.

for more

He was also concerned by the fact that

wholesale prices had risen 3-1/2 per cent in the last year and by

the seeming reluctance of employers to bargain strongly in making

their wage contracts.

This made him feel that one must look forward

to some further rise in

consumer prices unless both entrepreneurs

and union officials could be induced to change their expectations.

The scarcity right now was in savings, and as long as the expectations

of businessmen and union leaders continued as at present the pressure

on savings would continue to be great and might well rise.

The heavy

calendar of security issues, both public and private, in the months

ahead seemed to indicate that the price of money would remain high

for a considerable time.

If

the discount rate were raised this summer,

Mr.

Balderston

thought the business community very probably would view the action

not as a new signal or an indication of new policy but merely as an

indication that the System believed the current rates of interest

were likely to remain high for some time in the future.

words,

it

In other

would probably be regarded as a recognition of what had

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already happened.

Consequently, it seemed to him that the time had

come for the System to take action as soon as the normal methods of

System procedure would permit.

now through with its

The Treasury,

heavy refunding but it

he pointed out, was

would be in the market

for cash more than once before the end of the year.

If

the System

continued to wait for the Treasury to be in the clear and to refrain

from acting either just ahead or after a Treasury operation, it

might well be that the System would not act at all.

He would prefer

to see action taken before the Treasury went to the market rather

than afterward because he considered that the sounder way to proceed.

It

was better, he thought, for the market to know definitely what the

System's position was.

Mr.

Balderston went on to say that he would like to see action

on the discount rate in August, with the rate increased to 3-1/2 rather

than to 3-1/

per cent.

An increase of 1/2 per cent from the 3 per

cent level would be smaller relatively than the same increase from a

level of 1-1/2 per cent.

Also, if

at some time the System had to

reverse itself and signal a policy change, it

would be in a far better

position to act from the 3-1/2 per cent level than from some lower

level.

Mr.

Vardaman noted that some of those at this meeting had

indicated that in the event of an increase in the commercial bank

prime rate, they would be inclined to take action immediately to

increase the discount rate.

He inquired whether this would be

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desirable, since he wondered whether it was well to tie action on

the discount rate too closely to changes in the prime rate.

Chairman Martin then commented concerning the several state

ments at this meeting about regaining the degree of restraint that

prevailed prior to the recent Treasury financing.

He inquired of

Mr. Rouse whether he was not correct in assuming that what had

developed had been inadvertent in terms of open market policy

rather

than conscious.

Mr. Rouse confirmed that the developments had been inadvertent.

He said that the management of the account had considered it advisable

to assist the dealers in carrying securities, but had attempted to off

set repurchase agreements by sales to the extent that this could be

done without producing an adverse effect upon the Government securities

market.

The record, he said, made that clear on both sides.

Repurchase

agreements had been made against "rights" in spite of the reserve figures,

in line with Committee instructions to consider the refunding a critical

operation.

Chairman Martin then stated that, if he had interpreted correctly

the various statements that had been made at this meeting, it was clearly

the consensus that, regardless of what might develop in the course of the

next few weeks, there should be no change at this time in policy or in

the Committee's directive.

No disagreement was expressed with the Chairman's statement.

Chairman Martin stated that he found himself in agreement with

the general approach taken by Governor Mills.

He agreed completely

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with the view that there should be no change in

Committee's directive at the moment,

policy or in

the

but he believed that natural

developments would put the discount rate question in quite a dif

ferent perspective.

So far as the outlook was concerned, he sub

scribed to the thought which had been expressed regarding the

necessity for the System to accept certain risks.

one should persuade himself that, in

He did not think

the event of a major downturn

in the economy this fall, the degree of criticism would be any dif

ferent if the discount rate was raised.

The so-called "tight money"

policy had been aired enough so that in terms of political repercussions

it appeared that the System might just as well "relax and enjoy it."

The Chairman went on to comment that at times there appeared to be a

tendency to talk about the impotency of monetary and credit policy,

while at other times there seemed to be a tendency to ascribe more

influence and effect to that policy than it really deserved.

As for

himself, he said,he had more faith in the vitality of the economy and

its ability to adjust, and less faith in policy, than some people who

were constantly discussing the matter.

Chairman Martin suggested that the Committee should not attempt

to correct in one day a situation which had been plaguing it for a

number of months.

The Treasury no doubt would be coming into the

market again for funds and the System must face that situation. With

regard to the question raised earlier by Mr. Vardaman, he expressed

the opinion that although a decision on the discount rate should not

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be wedded automatically to the prime rate, the prime rate was a

factor that must be borne in mind in

He felt it

looking at the rate structure.

would be a mistake to think that if

the prime rate moved

up, action must be taken on the discount rate immediately.

same time, it

appeared that if

pected to follow a change in

be little

At the

the rate structure that might be ex

the prime rate should emerge there would

alternative to raising the discount rate unless the System

was content to have that rate get even more out of line with the de

velopments in

the rate structure.

Probably, the discount rate was

already lagging too much behind the rate structure,

primarily because

of the Treasury's financing problems.

In terms of general comment,

the Chairman said that he wished

to align himself with acceptance of the necessary risk if the rate

structure presented a problem to the System in terms of the discount

rate.

in

A change in the discount rate might be mentioned in the press

terms of a change in

System policy but he felt that the market

technicians would clearly understand the circumstances.

recognized,

of course, that an increase in

It

must be

the discount rate might

create certain further difficulties for the System from the standpoint

of relations with the Treasury

stood it,

He then repeated that, as he under

no one at this meeting wished to commit himself at this time

beyond the feeling that as of today there should be no change in

policy and no change in the Committee's directive.

In a concluding remark, Chairman Martin said that as far as

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he was concerned personally, he would want to assume the risk of

being charged with precipitating a downturn rather than to take

any action except one that was believed to be correct in the

technical as well as the policy sense.

Mr.

Shepardson said that he wished to endorse most emphatically

what Chairman Martin had said about facing up to the risk that might

be involved in pursuing the course which was believed to be most ad

visable.

With respect to the reference by Mr.

purchase agreements,

Leedy to the rate on re

Mr. Rouse said that the management of the account

had given considerable thought to the advisability of raising the rate.

On the one hand, it

the Treasury bill

increase in

was recognized that the rate was out of step with

rate.

On the other hand, with the possibility of an

the discount rate being rumored for the past few months

there was a feeling that a change in

the rate on repurchase agreements

might have been regarded by the market as the forerunner of a move in

the discount rate.

With regard to repurchase agreements entered into

with dealers during the recent Treasury financing to enable them to

carry rights without loss, Mr. Rouse said it

a warranted facility.

rate,

was felt that this was

If there should be a change in

the discount

he would hope that the rate on repurchase agreements could be

kept more on the flexible side.

Mr.

Hayes added to Mr. Rouse's comments by saying that he did

not think there had been as much loss in

the degree of restraint

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during the period of Treasury financing as might have been suggested

by the statistics.

He had not sensed any feeling of greater ease on

the part of the New York banks.

Also,

Mr.

Hayes said that he would

heartily endorse Mr. Vardaman's suggestion that the discount rate

should not immediately follow the prime rate.

Chairman Martin then repeated that he had assumed there was

no intention in

the operation of the System Open Market Account during

the Treasury financing to deviate from the terms of the Committee's

directive, that this had been verified, and that he considered it

important to have this on the record.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, the Committee voted

unanimously to direct the Federal Re

serve Bank of New York until otherwise

directed by the Committee:

(1) To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges,

(including replacement of maturing securities, and allow

ing maturities to run off without replacement) for the

System open market account in the open market or, in the

case of maturing securities, by direct exchange with the

Treasury, as may be necessary in the light of current

and prospective economic conditions and the general

credit situation of the country, with a view (a) to

relating the supply of funds in the market to the needs

of commerce and business, (b) to restraining inflationary

developments in the interest of sustainable economic

growth while recognizing uncertainties in the business

outlook, the financial markets, and the international

situation, and (c) to the practical administration of

the account; provided that the aggregate amount of securi

ties held in the System account (including commitments for

the purchase or sale of securities for the account) at the

close of this date, other than special short-term certifi

cates of indebtedness purchased from time to time for the

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temporary accommodation of the Treasury, shall not be

increased or decreased by more than $1 billion;

(2)

To purchase direct from the Treasury for the

account of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with

discretion, in cases where it seems desirable, to issue

participations to one or more Federal Reserve Banks)

such amounts of special short-term certificates of in

debtedness as may be necessary from time to time for the

temporary accommodation of the Treasury; provided that

the total amount of such certificates held at any one

time by the Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in

the aggregate $500 million;

(3)

To sell direct to the Treasury from the System

account for gold certificates such amounts of Treasury

securities maturing within one year as may be necessary

from time to time for the accommodation of the Treasury;

provided that the total amount of such securities so sold

shall not exceed in the aggregate $500 million face amount,

and such sales shall be made as nearly as may be practicable

at the prices currently quoted in the open market.

Chairman Martin then referred to the memorandum that had been

prepared under date of July 3,

from Mr.

1957, and distributed with a letter

Rouse of the same date, concerning institutional relations

between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the Board of Governors,

and the Treasury.

This memorandum contained sections dealing with

management of the Treasury's cash balances,

transactions in Govern

ment securities for Treasury investment accounts,

during Treasury financings,

System operations

other fiscal agency relations between the

Treasury and the Securities Department of the Federal Reserve Bank of

New York, and Board of Governors'

relations with the Treasury.

The

material had been prepared by the New York Reserve Bank except for

the last section and certain accompanying tables which were prepared

by the staff of the Board of Governors.

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Chairman Martin stated

what the memorandum had been put on

the agenda for this meeting in the thought that, with the anticipated

appointment of a new Under Secretary of the Treasury, the Committee

should start exploring these relations actively and that it

desirable to have some preliminary discussion at this time.

would be

However,

the anticipated appointment had not yet been made and therefore there

did not appear to be quite the same degree of urgency.

Chairman Martin went on to say that Mr. Hayes had pointed out

very well that a major question confronting the System related to the

underwriting of Treasury issues, and he felt that this was a problem

with which the System must come to grips.

He then said that with Mr.

Riefler's assistance he had prepared under date of July 30, 1957,

a

memorandum relating to techniques of debt management which would be

distributed at this meeting to the members of the Federal Open Market

Committee and also to the Presidents not currently serving on the

Committee.

Inthis connection, he commented that in the past few

months he had noticed increasingly that the Treasury was tending

actively to request a resumption on the part of the System of under

writing responsibilities during financing periods, and he said that

he had experienced increasing difficulty in discussing this matter

with the Treasury.

He felt it essential that the Open Maket Com

mittee review carefully this very important problem and that all

points of view be put on the table for consideration, for he was

sure the right answers could be obtained if

all

concerned expressed

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their views freely.

It was his feeling that sometimes the dis

cussions tended to be too polite in tone, whereas the meetings

of the Open Market Committee are meetings of the System "family"

at which all parties should feel free to express themselves fully.

He had wanted these documents to be distributed so that all concerned

might have the benefit of them and have a chance to be developing

their views.

As to procedure, he suggested that the material first

be the subject of discussion by the Special Committee appointed at

the meeting on January 28, 1957, which included, in addition to him

self, Messrs. Hayes, Allen, Balderston, Erickson, and Szymczak.

Due

to vacations, Messrs. Hayes and Szymczak would not be present at the

Open Market Committee meeting on August 20, but all of the members

of the Special Committee apparently would be available on September 10.

Therefore, he would like to have a meeting of the Special Committee on

that date and, on the basis of the Special Committee's discussion, to

bring the problems concerned before the whole Committee in late Septem

ber or at least in early October.

During a discussion of the matter, Mr.

that it

Hayes expressed the view

might not be possible for the Special Committee to make a very

full or complete report on the basis of a single meeting on September

10.

Chairman Martin indicated that he recognized this possibility and

said that this was one reason why he had been anxious to have the

pertinent material distributed to all concerned.

events were moving rapidly and that it

He commented that

was impossible to tell what the

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Committee might be faced with in the course of the next 30 or

60 days.

At the conclusion of this discussion, it

was agreed that

the procedure suggested by Chairman Martin would be followed.

It

was also agreed that the next meeting of the Committee

would be held at 10:00 a.m. on Tuesday,

August 20, 1957.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1957, July 29). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19570730
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19570730,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1957},
  month = {Jul},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19570730},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}