FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held

in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

System in Washington on Tuesday, October 22,

PRESENT:

1957,

at 10:00 a.m.

Mr. Hayes, Vice Chairman (Presiding)

Mr. Allen

Mr. Balderston

Mr. Bryan

Mr. Leedy

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mills

Robertson

Shepardson

Szymczak

Mr. Williams

Messrs. Fulton, Irons, Leach, and Mangels, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Erickson and Deming, Presidents of the Fed

eral Reserve Banks of Boston and Minneapolis,

respectively

Mr. Thurston, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Solomon, Assistant General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Atkinson, Bopp, Mitchell, Tow, and

Young, Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Carpenter, Secretary, Board of Governors

Mr. Koch, Assistant Director, Division of Re

search and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Miller, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Mr. Gaines, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Messrs. Daane, Hostetler, Rice, and Roosa, Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of

Richmond, Cleveland, Dallas, and New York,

respectively; Mr. Einzig, Assistant Vice

President, Federal Reserve Bank of San

Francisco; and Mr. Litterer, Business Econo

mist, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis

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Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meeting of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee held on October 1, 1957, were

approved.

Under date of October 1, 1957, there had been sent to each

member and alternate member of the Federal Open Market Committee,

and to each President not currently a member of the Committee,

a

report of an audit of the System Open Market Account made by the

Division of Examinations of the Board of Governors as at the close

of business August 16, 1957, which report had been submitted to the

Secretary of the Committee under date of September 18, 1957 in

accord

ance with the action of the Federal Open Market Committee at its

ing on June 21,

1939.

meet

Vice Chairman Hayes inquired whether any of the

members of the Committee wished to comment on the report.

Without objection, the audit report

was noted and accepted.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report prepared at the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York covering open market operations during the period October 1

through October 16, 1957,

and a supplementary report covering commit

ments executed October 17 through October 21, 1957.

Copies of both

reports have been placed in the files of the Federal Open Market

Committee.

Mr.

Rouse noted that he had been away during the past two weeks.

During that period,

the market had had a case of jitters

related to the

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Russian earth satellite and what it

might mean for defense spending

in this country, to the Middle East disturbance,

of prices in

the stock market,

of FNMA securities.

to the rapid run-down

and to the unexpectedly large offering

The uncertainty had become rather disturbing on

the previous Thursday, and it became necessary to supply some money

to the market through open market operations.

had shaken off their jitters

in

Government securities

the last few days and prices had been

under pressure.

moving higher, but the market was still

Market

generally bearish,

sentiment on the business outlook was still

Mr.

Rouse observed, although many recent earnings reports had been good.

Looking ahead to the problems that might arise in

Mr.

few weeks,

the next

Rouse pointed out that both the New York projections

and the Board staff's projections expect net borrowed reserves to

rise substantially during the next three weeks unless open market

operations offset the loss of reserves.

Also during this period

there would continue to be a strong corporate demand for capital funds,

on both debt and equity securities.

Good performance of the municipal

market in recent weeks had acted to bring out an increased supply of

new issues.

Turning to current matters, Mr. Rouse reported that Treasury

bills had been auctioned the previous day at an average rate of 3.62

FNMA apparently just got

per cent,

somewhat below the previous week.

by in its

offering of $750 million Management and Liquidation notes,

with current guessing that allotments might be 45 per cent of sub

scriptions.

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Mr.

Rouse then referred to the request received by Chairman

Martin from Congressman Patman dated October 7,

1957, that arrange

ments be made for certain individuals working for Mr. Patman to visit

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in

operations.

order to study open market

Mr. Patman vouched for the integrity and discretion of

these individuals and gave assurances that they would make no public

statements concerning their visit or otherwise reveal confidences to

any unauthorized source.

Patman in

Chairman Martin in turn had assured Mr.

his letter of October 8, 1957 that the New York Bank would

be glad to receive these people under the conditions stated.

Mr.

Rouse went on to say that after arrangements were agreed

upon, two men came to New York and spent three days there, mostly at

the Trading Desk.

in

They did not sit

on conversations with dealers.

in

on dealer meetings or listen

However,

Mr. Rouse understood that

many questions were asked and were answered fully and frankly.

He had

not had an opportunity for a full report but the principal, a Mr.

William Johnson, wrote President Hayes a thank you note which he

closed as follows:

"Not only were the operations of the Open Market

Account explained to us in understandable terms, but all of the

questions we raised were, I believe, fully answered excepting a few

of a statistical nature which Mr.

by mail."

Roosa kindly consented to answer

Although he had not yet seen these questions,

Mr. Rouse

said that he understood they were handed to Mr. Roosa as Mr. Johnson

was leaving the Bank and that they involved data received from dealers

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on a confidential basis.

If

that proved to be the case the Bank

would have difficulty in giving Mr.

Johnson the answers in a form

which would fully meet his request.

Mr. Rouse then stated that early in 1958 the Account Manage

ment planned to begin the next lap of the program of training for

emergency purposes that was in effect during 1957 and in which repre

sentatives from all Reserve Banks both at the policy level and at the

operating level visited the New York Bank for the purpose of studying

open market operations.

He suggested that each Reserve Bank President

and the Board furnish the Secretary of the Committee with a list

of

persons whom they wished to propose for participation in the training

program during 1958 in

order that a satisfactory schedule could be

worked out.

Responding to a request from Mr.

Balderston for a review of

the day-to-day problems with float that the Desk had encountered

during the previous week, Mr. Rouse said that the period around

Columbus Day was always a difficult one for forecasting float.

This

year, open market operations were conducted on the expectation that

float would rise immediately after the holiday.

did not,

When it

the money market turned tighter for a few days in the first

last week than the Committee had intended.

Finally, it

half of

became

necessary for the System account to buy Treasury bills on Thursday.

Mr.

Balderston said that his question was not intended to

voice criticism as to operations of the Desk last week.

He fully

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understood the difficult situation.

He raised the question because

he thought the Committee as a whole had never faced up to the problem

of whether it wished the Desk to proceed on the basis of actual figures

that applied to changes already effected or whether it

should base

operations on the projections, especially when the projections of

necessity were uncertain and unreliable.

Mr. Rouse said that he thought further discussion of this

question might be helpful.

His understanding of the Desk's respon.

bilities was that operations should depend upon the judgment of the

Manager of the Account based not only on the figures but also on the

feel of the market.

He pointed out that the latest data available

to the Desk are two days late.

In managing the Account, the actual

figures for two days earlier and the projections are used in

the influences that are at work in

the market.

evaluating

Sometimes he felt the

Desk relied too much on the projections and reserve statistics.

He

suggested that the most important factor in regulating credit condi

accordance with Committee policy was the Desk's judgment of

tions in

the market on a particular day, that is,

its

judgment as to the nature

of the demand and supply influences shaping the market at any particular

time.

Mr.

Hayes said that he thought this was an interesting point.

Mr. Rouse had correctly indicated that many factors should be con

sidered, but there was the question how much weight to give to pro

jections,

to past performance,

and to other factors.

He suggested

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that there was a need for each member of the Committee to direct his

thoughts to this question.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions during

the period October 1 through October 21,

1957, were approved, ratified, and con

firmed.

Mr. Hayes said that in addition to the visits to the New York

Bank of persons working for Mr. Patman, to which Mr. Rouse had referred,

arrangements had been made by Chairman Martin for Senator Wallace

Bennett, a member of the Banking and Currency Committee, to come to the

Desk tomorrow, October 23, for the purpose of observing operations and

asking questions concerning the transactions for the System open market

account.

Members of the Board's staff entered the room at this point to

assist Messrs. Young and Thomas in

the presentation of an economic and

credit review, illustrated by chart slides.

A copy of the script of the

review was sent to each member of the Committee following the meeting.

The review stated that recent developments at home and abroad

called for searching re-examination of the economic situation.

In this

country the latest declines in market values of common stocks and sensi

tive industrial commodities had been of sufficient magnitude to bring

into question continued dominance of inflationary forces

On the other

hand, demonstrations of Russian scientific prowess necessitated an

intensive review of projected reduction in national security outlays

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and of possible new outlays.

Abroad,

sharp speculative attacks on

sterling and some other currencies apparently had been met success

fully by strong policies, including an increase in the Bank of

England rate to 7 per cent.

Foreign influences on the United States

economy, to the extent that they are felt through our export trade,

had not been expansionary in recent months as they were at the

beginning of the year.

Monetary policies in most European countries

were still determined by the need to maintain external stability as

well as internal balance, and the general situation in Europe was

still one of strong, though not necessarily rising, demand.

Within the United States, the latest quarterly and monthly

figures showed continuation through the third quarter of 1957 of

many features prevailing earlier in

the year, with production steady

at a high level, price movements in wholesale markets mixed but the

average up, and consumer prices generally continuing upward.

September

industrial production was at 144, down a point from August but within

the narrow 143 to 146 range prevailing so far this year.

In analyzing the implications of recent business and credit

developments for monetary and fiscal policy,

it

was pointed out that

the review showed short-run abatement in inflationary pressures and

raised questions about potential declines in

activity.

important sectors of

The economy as a whole showed basic strength but there

was uncertainty as to what combination of demands would prevent

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recession in activity or, better, make for advance in total output

and employment at present price levels.

Business sentiment had

turned more pessimistic than the current indicator figures, and

attitudes of common stock investors appeared to reflect a growing

disbelief in the extension of inflationary trends.

While bank credit and the money supply had leveled off in

recent months and demand for Federal Reserve credit had shown less

than the seasonally projected increase during the past few weeks,

developments did not signify that credit policy had been unduly

restrictive.

Time deposits at commercial banks had increased sharply,

and turnover of existing demand deposits had continued to increase.

New securities flotations by business corporations and State and

local governments had been in record volume and the Treasury deficit

had also created a demand for credit.

Projections of reserve needs

during the remainder of 1957, which indicated a substantial rise in

net borrowed reserves in the absence of action by the System, were

based on the assumption of a more than seasonal increase in deposits

for the rest of the year in order to show no decline in deposits for

the year as a whole.

These projections indicated an increase in re

serve needs of close to a billion dollars between the date of this

meeting and the last week of December,

most ofwhich would come

during December.

It

would seem appropriate for the System to meet seasonal

reserve requirements freely, the review suggested,

and if

such

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requirements did not develop as much as would normally be expected

their absence should be allowed to be reflected in some easing of

the reserve positions of member banks.

Thus, an immediate target

of net borrowed reserves moderately below the average recently

maintained would seem appropriate.

seasonal requirements,

Should demands exceed usual

a volume of borrowing by member banks similar

to that prevailing recently would be in order.

The review concluded with the statement that developments

in business and economic conditions would have to be watched par

ticularly closely in coming weeks in

ments that might be suitable.

If

order to make policy adjust

current readjustments gather

momentum, some further easing in member bank reserve positions and

possibly even a decrease in rediscount rates might be appropriate.

On the other hand, a recapture of any restraint that might be lost

in

the immediate future might be required if

unexpected economic

strength developed--something that had happened a number of times

in our dynamic postwar economy.

Mr. Hayes said that, while he was serving as Chairman of

this meeting, he would proceed in the customary manner to express

at the outset his views on the general situation and on the credit

policies that seemed appropriate for the Committee to follow, after

which he would revert to the neutral role of a chairman awaiting

the emergence of a consensus.

Following his initial

statement he

would call upon all others for their views, beginning with Mr. Bryan.

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He then made a statement as follows:

Doubts as to the business outlook have been very con

siderably strengthened by developments since we met three

weeks ago. To some extent these doubts reflect additional

evidence of "soft spots" in the economy. But they also have

been fed by the persistent weakness of the stock market, the

slowdown in defense contract payments, the worsening of the

political situation in the Middle East, and above all by

concern over our whole national future in the light of the

Soviet's successful satellite launching. So far as stock

prices are concerned, they are providing the first evidence

of the kind of deterioration that feeds on itself. It is

possible that the current wave of pessimism is being over

done like the excessive optimism of a few months ago, and

may soon give way to a new wave of optimism--but we would

be foolish to ignore it as it could become a factor having

significant influence on business decisions.

Statistical data for September and early October sug

gest that the business plateau which we have recognized for

I have in mind

downward.

many months is beginning to tilt

especially that personal income declined slightly in Septem

ber for the first time since the beginning of 1956 (except

for one month affected by the steel strike); that corporate

profits figures for the second quarter turned out less

favorably than expected and were below those of the first

quarter; that retail sales, which many economists have been

stressing as the strongest element in the economy, receded

last month to the June level and appear to be doing no

better in October; that nonagricultural employment declined

in September, erasing the entire gain since May (and while

the labor force also declined, there have been threats of

serious unemployment among large defense contractors); and

that industrial production dropped slightly last month and,

in the durable goods area, was below last year's levelwith freight carloadings and electric power output also

making a relatively weak showing.

Furthermore, the principal price indices suggest that

inflationary pressures are a good deal less strong than

they have been even in recent months--and of course much

Not only wholesale

less strong than early in the year.

prices as a whole, but also industrial prices were lower

in September than in August. Price cuts occurred in areas

generally thought to be dominated by so-called "administered"

Further weakness in the basic commodity price index

prices.

brought it to a seven-year low. Perhaps most significant of

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all is the likelihood that the consumer price index may

show a slight decline for October.

Many analysts look upon private plant and equipment

expenditures and Federal expenditures for defense as key

influences on the state of business during the coming year.

While most surveys confirm the likelihood of a drop in private

capital outlays in 1958, they suggest that the drop will

be moderate. Private discussions we have had with a number

of industrial leaders point to the same conclusionalthough there is some risk that the spirit of pessimism

already pronounced in the financial markets may spread to

business executives in general and cause some sharper

downward revision of spending plans.

As for defense ex

penditures, it now seems less likely that the aim of

cutting the fiscal-year total to $38 billion will be

attained. For the longer term, some expansion seems

probable, but for the next few months any such prospect

would influence primarily business sentiment and busi

ness policies with respect to inventories and manpower,

with actual Federal expenditures largely unaffected.

In the credit and capital markets we have seen some

confusing and divergent tendencies in the last few weeks.

Business loans have continued to run behind last year,

but security loans have recently shown a greater increase.

The growth in total loans and investments has exceeded

that of a year ago, because of sizeable Treasury financing

around the end of September.

Banks have felt apprehensive

about the burden of financing which may fall on them as a

result of the slowdown in government payments on defense

contracts.

It is clear that the Treasury will have to

resort to other devices to cope with the debt limit, in

cluding agency financing such as the sale of F.N.M.A.

notes, and perhaps the sale of free gold. The bond market,

after getting some encouragement from signs of reduced

inflationary pressures and a leveling of business activity,

has received a setback from the Treasury's current and

prospective use of large agency issues to get around the

debt limit--and also from the continuing pressure of a

heavy calendar of prospective issues and from the general

loss of confidence caused by Sputnik and its implications

for heavier defense needs in the future. A new upward

rate adjustment may possibly be in process, which would

undermine the rate plateau established by the 4 per cent

coupon the Treasury placed on its recent security offer

ings.

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The environment for monetary policy has begun to look

quite different from the boom conditions which initially

justified the current restrictive policy. During our last

two Directors' meeting, various members of our Board have

expressed concern that Federal Reserve policy may be perhaps

a little too tight to fit present circumstances and that we

might be too late in recognizing the need for a change in

policy. While they do not feel that it is time as yet to

think of a lower discount rate, they are wondering if a

somewhat less restrictive policy should be cautiously ex

plored. I am concerned by the tendency for various in

fluences, in combination with restrictive Federal Reserve

policy, to drive interest rates higher at a time when a

higher rate pattern seems inconsistent with broader and

longer-range objectives of credit policy. I think we

should not only be careful to avoid any unintended tight

ness such as we witnessed a week ago, but we might also

give serious consideration to a very modest relaxation of

our restrictive policy. I am not proposing, as yet, any

overt action to signal to the public a major change of

policy, but we could appropriately start moving gradually

and tentatively in that direction, while being prepared

to tighten up again if it develops that we have misread

the many signs of reduced inflationary pressures and

augmented danger of recession. We should certainly provide

reserves willingly through open market operations to meet

seasonal needs. We have generally considered reserve

requirements for bank underwriting of direct Treasury offer

ings and CCC financing as falling within this category of

seasonal needs, and we would now include also the reserve

needs for bank financing of defense contractors and the

underwriting of Government agency issues. Because of the

unusual uncertainties that have been injected into the

always uncertain fall season, principal reliance should

be placed upon the atmosphere in the market and public

reactions to the stream of events rather than upon net

borrowed reserve targets. If a figure for net borrowed

reserves is necessary, I would think that $300 million

might be used as a rough guide, subject to the major

qualification noted above as to the feel of the market.

Whether or not we agree today to a slight lessening

of this kind in the intensity of reserve pressure, there

is enough stirring to justify some consideration of the

steps the System might take, along with open market opera

tions, as part of an orderly relaxation of pressures--if

will

Much

change.

and when we do decide to make some

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depend, of course, upon whether current or future develop

ments seem to call for gradual, or for decisive, System

action. One first step in a gradual approach might well

be for the Board of Governors to lower margin requirements.

Another, somewhat greater step would be for the Board to

reduce reserve requirements in the central reserve cities.

Both of these have already been urged by a number of people

(not all of them self-serving) as specific remedies for strain

at particular pressure points--changes of a structural nature

that ought to be made as soon as the peak of general pressure

has passed, but which need not signal a turn toward decided

ease.

If more decisive action is called for, the Board might

lower reserve requirements on a wider front, and the Reserve

Banks might initiate reductions in discount rates. If the

former, it will be well for the System to reach some con

sensus as among the various reserve proposals, before we move

very far. If the latter, we might be reconsidering again the

old question as to whether, or when, a discount rate change

may usefully precede or lead changes in market rates.

Returning from this look ahead and concentrating again

on the present, in regard to the directive, my only suggestion

woula be that we might add the word "increased" in front of the

word "uncertainties" in the phrase "recognizing uncertainties

in the business outlook, the financial markets, and the inter

national situation.,

I should close with a word on the discount window. It

might be well on this occasion to seek a measure of uniformity

among the Reserve Banks in our approach with respect to the

requests for special discount privileges that have arisen or

may arise from banks extending credit to defense contractors

The

whose payments from the government have been reduced.

policy we propose to adopt in the New York Bank would be to

assure borrowing banks that these defense loans would be viewed

in the same way as normal seasonal demands for credit, and that

reserves will be supplied in the same way and to the same ex

tent to support the deposits arising from them. That is,

individual banks might borrow temporarily from the Reserve Bank

to provide for the immediate drain on their resources when the

However, it would be inappropriate for the

loans are made.

banks to believe that they will have access to the discount

window in a dollar-for-dollar offset to the loans that they

Their borrowing from the Reserve Bank should be repaid

make.

promptly, as they are able to round up, through sale of other

assets if necessary, their share of the reserves which the

System is supplying to the banks to support the over-all

expansion of credit resulting from the stretchout in disbuse

ments by the Defense Department and from all other seasonal

needs.

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With respect to the last point, Mr. Hayes noted that the

Treasury had been talking with some of the members of the Committee

about the System's attitude toward the problem of financing defense

contracts in the light of recent changes in the practice of making

progress payments to defense contractors.

He suggested that any

member of the Committee or any other Reserve Bank President feel free

to comment on this problem.

He then called upon Mr.

Bryan.

Mr. Bryan said that statistics for the Sixth District did not

show an alarming situation or a major change in activity recently.

Non

farm employment had increased, offsetting a slight drop in manufacturing

employment.

Lumber employment had declined somewhat but textile employ

ment had gone up.

Construction contract awards were up and continued

stronger than in the nation as a whole.

On the financial front, there

was apparently some weakness in the demand for loans, Mr. Bryan said.

The economy of the Sixth District was still on a very high plateau but,

if anything, the tilt was ever so slightly downward as against what

seemed a few weeks ago to be an upward tilt.

With respect to credit policy, Mr. Bryan said that he would

associate himself almost completely with what Mr. Hayes had said.

He

doubted seriously if this was the time to take dramatic or overt action

with regard to discount rates or reserve requirements.

in

At the same time,

view of the uncertainties in the situation, he would avoid further

tightening in

the rate structure and,

moderate easing in

the rate structure.

if

anything, would favor a

With regard to use of net

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borrowed reserves as a criterion for operations, Mr. Bryan commented

on why, at least at present, such figures might not only not offer a

very good criterion for operations but why they might actually lead

to operations that would conflict with the Committee's policy.

sonally,

Mr.

Bryan said he would

Per

refer to arrive at an understanding

that the Desk pursue a policy of freely supplying reserves to meet

seasonal and such other requirements as would hold the bill

or close to the discount rate.

rate at

As for the Committee's directive, while

he was not entirely happy with it,

he had no suggestion for change

although he thought the Committee should consider Mr. Hayes' suggestion.

Mr.

Williams presented preliminary data of capital expenditures

planned for the Philadelphia metropolitan area which indicated an over

all decrease in

1958 of 4 per cent compared with 1957.

He noted that

this 4 per cent decline compared with a 5 per cent decrease mentioned

in

the staff economic review for the nation.

Manufacturing activities

represented two-thirds of the total of $582 million of indicated 1958

expenditures,

Mr. Williams said, and this segment was expected to

decline 17 per cent from the current year, while expenditures for rail

ways and public utilities

representing a third of the total were ex

pected to increase 24 per cent.

Within manufacturing,

producers of

durables expected to decrease their capital expenditures in

8 per cent,

1958 by

while producers of nondurables anticipated a 22 per cent

decline.

In commenting on current activities, Mr.

Williams said that

the over-all picture was one of a high plateau despite the more cautions

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No significant areas shoved a resurgence of activity

and Mr. Williams did not expect this year's fall upswing to be at

all pronounced.

As to banking trends, borrowings from district

member banks had dropped $51 million in the first

three weeks of

October this year as compared with a decline of $33 million in the

corresponding period a year ago.

Borrowings from the Federal Re

serve Bank had decreased each week since September 18, although the

borrowing level was slightly higher than last year.

Within the last

week or ten days stretch-out payments on defense loans had begun to

bite.

Mr. Williams said he would agree that the System should have

a policy with respect to defense contracts, and he felt

might be related to the seasonal upswing.

this policy

He felt this should be

fairly clear-cut so that the Reserve Banks would know what they were

getting into.

With respect to net borrowed reserves, Mr. Williams would lean

toward a somewhat higher figure than the $300 million mentioned by Mr.

Hayes but he felt that the discretion given to the Manager of the

System Account should permit him in any case of doubt to veer on the

side of ease.

In view of the fact that the Committee was talking about

a three-week period, the Manager of the Account should be authorized

to play by ear.

Mr. Williams would make no change in

the discount rate

at this time.

Mr. Fulton said that he was substantially in

Hayes.

The steel industry in

agreement with Mr.

the Fourth District was not happy, he said,

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although it was still operating at a very high level, up to 93 per cent

of capacity in some areas.

were coming in

Steel people reported that cancellations

and that consideration was being given to closing down

some auxiliary facilities.

the industry somewhat in

The decline in scrap prices had affected

that pig iron had been substituted when scrap

was higher, whereas now this was not being done.

The uncertainty be

cause of delayed payments on national defense contracts was bringing

about liquidation of inventories.

Also, some large oil companies were

selling pipe to other users rather than have those users go to the

mills, and a redistribution of inventories was going on.

New orders

for steel had fallen off and the automobile industry had been slow to

increase its takings.

November business did not look as good as

October.

With respect to industries other than steel, those dealing with

consumer goods reflected rather spotty conditions,

Mr. Fulton said.

However, he felt there was nothing that a good sales effort would not

correct, provided the psychology of businessmen and individuals did not

deteriorate further.

He reported comments that the present recession

was largely triggered by the Government itself, reflecting the tightening

of credit and the fighting of inflation.

While the Federal Reserve was

the only voice to be heard a short time ago, now the cry was general and

it was generating a defeatist or cautious attitude on the part of every

one.

Unemployment had increased in the Fourth District but all

activity continued at a high rate.

in all

Department store sales were slightly

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below last year for the year to date.

As to policy, Mr. Fulton said that it was time for caution on

the part of the System and for doing nothing dramatic to change policy.

We should show willingness to meet the seasonal requirements fully and

probably to inject a little

more money into the banking system.

Net

borrowed reserves between $300 and $4O0 million would be appropriate,

giving the Manager of the System Account considerable latitude to follow

the feel of the market.

There should be no move in

the discount rate at

this time and there should be no suggestion of a change in reserve re

quirements.

seemed to him that we faced at this

Mr. Shepardson said that it

time a psychological situation as much as anything.

Certainly there had

been indications of some lessening of pressures in all areas, more so than

we had seen in

some little

time.

But the big pressure seemed to Mr.

Shepardson to be psychological reaction to such factors as the Russian

satellite and the recent movement in

the stock market.

He thought it

important that the System try to maintain as nearly as possible an atti

tude of calmness; that it

not be in

any position of indicating that it

was fearful that recent developments would go too far.

He doubted

that anyone knew the defense situation, adding that there were may

elements in

the situation that seemed to counteract each other.

He

hoped that more information would become available shortly, but in view

of the over-all spirit of tension at this time and of almost unreasoned

fear in

some places, he felt that the Committee should hold as steady

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as possible.

He would differ from what he had said at the preceding

meeting to the extent that if

errors were made in

tions they should now be on the side of ease in

needs that might occur.

carrying on opera

order to take care of

This did not mean that the Committee should

make any move toward relaxation.

Mr. Robertson said that he agreed almost completely with Mr.

Shepardson's remarks.

The econony

was still at a very high level.

The signs varied one way and the other, but he was firmly convinced

that the pessimism which seemed to exist throughout the country to

some extent but particularly in

to expect a slowdown in

if

New York was being overdone.

the economy from time to time,

the Federal Reserve was going to do what it

do, that is

seek a goal of stability of prices,

he said, and

had said it

it

We have

wished to

would have to

expect that periods of advance would be followed by periods in which

prices would go down.

Mr. Robertson said he was also convinced that the stock market

was not an important guide to economic developments.

It was a very

fickle sort of thing and that market should not be given too much

weight by the Committee.

This is

the very time when the Committee

should avoid any sign of a panicky belief or of a panicky feeling

should not ease the situation in any way.

We

He would agree with Mr.

Shepardson that errors, if made, should be on the side of ease rather

than tightness.

He would not suggest that this was the time for any

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tightening, but the Committee should watch carefully and be certain

that it

was not indicating any feeling that public psychology was

going to run away with pessimism.

Mr. Robertson said that he also believed that too much reliance

on "feel of the market" as seen in New York could be disastrous in the

conduct of operations to carry out Committee policy.

He felt that the

pressures in New York were much greater and much more difficult to with

stand than they were outside New York.

Feel of the market could not be

disregarded but it should not be given full sway, he said.

Therefore,

his belief was that the Committee should set a target of net borrowed

reserves.

He would not be reluctant to have such a target of $350

$400 million but would not wish to see the level drop below that range.

As to the Committee's directive, he would be interested in comments

about inserting the word "increased" as suggested by Mr. Hayes in

clause (b) of the first

paragraph, but he felt

that such an insertion

might be an indication that the Committee was being swayed by a letting

up in the pace of advance.

If

the Committee were the only one that

would see the directive that would not matter, but anything in

the way

of a public disclosure that there was a feeling of uncertainty might

be exaggerated out of proportion.

With respect to discount policy,

Mr. Robertson would be in

terested in hearing the views of the Reserve Bank Presidents but he

was convinced that the System should take no position to indicate

that the Reserve Banks were going to provide the financing for war

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industries where there had been a cutback in advance payments by the

Government.

If this change were taken in stride it could be handled

without too much difficulty, he felt, whereas any indications that

the System was going to assume a full scale responsibility for this

development would be most unfortunate.

In sum, his belief was that

the System should provide adequate reserves to meet seasonal needs

but that it should play its hand "close to the chest" for the next

three weeks.

Mr. Mills commented that his middle of the road reasoning on

the economic and credit situation and System policy had been put in

memorandum form, and he then proceeded to read the following statements

Now that a marked upturn in fall business activity has

not materialized, the time has come for adapting Federal Re

serve System credit policy to an economic situation which

indicates that general activity may be falling from its long

heralded "high plateau." Although there is no occasion for

reversing the System's policy of restraint on the expansion

of bank credit, the degree of pressure exerted to limit

credit expansion might well be modified through the applica

tion of the natural factors working in the economy which

presently support the System's policy objectives. A

pessimistic tinge to psychological attitudes and the reduced

liquidity evident both in banking and business circles are

factors which continue to work on the side of automatically

enforcing System credit policy and thereby reducing the

necessity of applying as heavy mechanical pressures in

policy enforcement as would otherwise be the case.

Acceptance of this reasoning would contemplate that

the System should not attempt to absorb reserves that may

be freed through further reduction of loans at central

reserve city banks and reserve city banks, but should

allow such reserves to find whatever new employment they

may be put to by the banks into whose possession they come.

For example, it may be desirable for banks to extend credit

to finance involuntary inventory accumulations pending

their orderly distribution, which would be economically

preferable to a restriction of credit that would compel

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their forced liquidation. Seemingly, the present level of

interest rates as a cost factor should exert a sufficient

influence to prevent the use of credit for financing unwise

or speculative inventory accumulation.

Credit leeway in the hands of the commercial banks at

the present time may also be desirable to originate the

syndicate financing of prospective new issues of corporate

and public securities during the period that they are re

distributed into final investment hands.

In this case, the

slowing-down in the tempo of thecapial

investment boom

should automatically serve to eliminate the possibility of

a too free use of bank credit in this financing area.

A final instance of allowing credit leeway attaches to

supplying reserves against commercial bank acquisition on

October 29 of the new issue of Federal National Mortgage

Business conditions being as they

Association securities.

are suggest that System policy pressure to enforce an im

mediate redistribution of the securities from the commercial

banks will not be essential in the light of all of the con

siderations which have been touched upon, and which suggest

that the economic factors working toward an expansion of

credit are now subsiding to the extent that a counter

offensive on the part of System credit policy to prevent

an undue increase in the money supply is no longer as

necessary as heretofore.

Continuing,

Mr.

Mills said that if

a target of negative free

reserves were to be chosen he would think it

$300 to S4OO million.

as it

However,

should be a range from

he believed that feel of the market

reaches the Manager of the System Open Market Account should be

the criterion on which the Committee should operate.

Mr.

by Mr.

Mills'

reasoning was completely in line with that expressed

Robertson with respect to discount policy regarding financing

needs that might originate out of the change in defense program

financing methods.

Essentially,

the Federal Reserve was dealing in

the total of reserves and that total of reserves as it

makes itself

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felt or as the System makes the reserves available through credit

policy should flow to the point where the reserves were most needed.

This would include the defense program contracts requiring additional

bank financing.

Mr.

Mills said that it

would be an error, in his

judgment, to attempt to recognize a credit need of this type for

special Federal Reserve Bank discount action apart from the general

credit needs that would occur and which it

was the evident intention

of System policy to meet.

Mr.

Leach reported additional evidence of weakness in some

sectors of the Fifth District economy.

Prices of cotton woven goods

had recently declined, production was reported to have been curtailed

slightly, and future orders at prices satisfactory to the manufacturer

were still

lacking.

Recent industry estimates of bituminous coal con

sumption indicated some decline in production in the fourth quarter,

despite a stronger than expected foreign demand.

Furniture manufacturers

report that they are gearing production closely to orders to avoid adding

further to aready heavy inventories.

in

Current estimates of leading crops

the Fifth District show considerable decline from last year, Mr.

Leach said, with tobacco down 31 per cent, cotton 31 per cent, peanuts

21 per cent,

corn 30 per cent, and wheat 28 per cent.

In looking around for some elements of strength, Mr. Leach said

that he observed that Fifth District construction contract awards had

increased contraseasonally from July to August.

tion contracts were particularly strong.

Residential construc

There had been no significant

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unemployment in the Fifth District during the last two

years.

With respect to the national situation, Mr. Leach expressed

the view that we were now achieving the objective we have been seeking

for a considerable time.

It

seemed to him that the inflationary

pressures had lessened greatly and they might be disappearing.

This

was evidenced by most indicators other than the consumer price index,

which was still

going up in August.

Despite the slight declines apparently occurring in some sectors

of the economy, Mr.

Leach believed that it

would be premature to make

any appreciable change in the degree of restraint.

certainly resolve doubts on the side of ease.

However, he would

A somewhat lower bench

mark for net borrowed reserves should be sufficient to give the desired

restraint, he said, suggesting that such a benchmark--and he emphasized

the use of the word "benchmark"--might be around $350 million with

borrowings from the Federal Reserve Banks around $900 million

Mr.

Leach concluded his remarks by stating that borrowing from

the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond was comparatively low at the

present time and he was not expecting any special problems at the

discount window.

It

had not occurred to him that the Bank should give

any special consideration to defense contract payments.

He would let

any such demands come along with other seasonal and current factors

and take all such elements into consideration in

carrying on open

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market operations.

These should be conducted to the extent necessary

to keep borrowings from the Reserve Banks from going above $900 million.

Mr. Leedy said that signs were lacking in the Tenth District of

weakness in the economy comparable to those reported for the Fifth

District by Mr. Leach.

Trends in

several areas of activity were the

reverse of those in the nation generally.

for the first

While construction volume

eight months this year was 2 per cent ahead of last year,

residential contracts showed an 11 per cent gain over last year.

farm employment was at a slightly higher level than last year.

manufacturing employment,

Non

In

there also had been gains, largely in con

nection with defense activity in areas such as Wichita, Albuquerque,

and Denver.

In

nonmanufacturing,

all

States of the district excepting

one showed improvement over a year ago.

Department store sales for

the last four weeks had been higher than in

year ago.

the corresponding period a

Business loans, contrary to the trend nationally, had been

higher since the middle of this year than in

1956.

There had been some

reduction in borrowings at the Reserve Bank since the preceding meeting.

Agricultural conditions in

the Tenth District were exceptionally good.

Fall weather had been ideal for maturing of fall crops and for pastures,

and the outlook for production next year was excellent.

On policy, Mr. Leedy said he would not wish to be understood as

suggesting any change in

direction but he would comment on the matter

of degree of restraint.

With what has been occurring in the securities

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market he felt the Committee could not completely close its eyes to

business psychology reflected there, although he agreed that the

Committee should not be panicked into a course of action that

statistics would not justify.

The economic presentation this morning

made it evident that there was a marked lessening of inflationary

pressures, however, and Mr.

Leedy expressed the opinion that the Com

mittee should take account of that development in its operations for

the immediate period ahead.

His feeling would be that the Committee

should apply a little less pressure than in the past three-week period.

As a matter of fact, there had been a higher level of net borrowed

reserves in this period than he had anticipated at the time of the

last meeting.

Recognizing seasonal needs,

Mr. Leedy felt that opera

tions should be quite sensitive and should respond readily to require

ments.

He would not undertake to pinpoint a level of net borrowed re

serves, but on the basis of the projections it would seem evident that

unless pressures were to be increased before the next meeting of the

Committee it would be necessary to make substantial additions to bank

reserves.

As far as the Treasury was concerned,

Mr.

Leedy said he

could not distinguish between the Committee's responsibility to the

Treasury for its direct financing and indirectly, and he would subscribe

to sympathetic treatment of the Treasury's financing needs.

thought of any change in

the discount rate.

He had no

He would also oppose any

public indication that the System was doing anything radically dif

ferent than it

had been doing recently.

As to the directive, he was

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somewhat concerned about indefinitely continuing the present wording

of clause (b)

of paragraph 1.

He suggested that the description of

inflationary developments which the Committee envisioned at the time

the wording was adopted was not now accurately reflected in

wording.

the existing

He was not suggesting a change in wording at this meeting but

thought that the Committee might be giving consideration to rephrasing

the directive along the lines of making clause (b) read "to restraining

the growth of credit (or to maintaining restraint on growth of credit),

taking account of the existence of continuing inflationary pressures,

(or,

taking account of the existence of continuing though lessening

inflationary pressures)."

Mr.

Leedy also expressed the view that the addition of the word

"increased" as suggested by Vice Chairman Hayes might be appropriate.

In short,

he felt that at this time the Committee could do a little

less than it

had been doing recently in

the way of applying pressure

on bank reserves without indicating a change in

Mr.

policy,

Allen said that the past three weeks had brought further

confirmation of the sidewise movement of industrial activity.

saw a slight dip in

September

such general indicators as industrial production,

personal income, and employment, but that was largely accounted for by

the model shutdowns in

the automobile industry.

By mid-October,

most

of the persons laid off during the shutdown period were back at work

and total employment in

same as a year ago.

Michigan now was believed to be almost the

Automobile production was estimated at 350,000

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units in October,

560,000 in November,

and 660,000 in December, a

total of 1,570,000 for the fourth quarter--identical with the fourth

quarter of 1956.

Barring unusual developments,

total was likely to be attained because it

new cars to fill

Mr. Allen thought that

would take 600,300 of the

the pipelines and only highly disappointing sales

would curtail production schedules prior to January.

If production

schedules for the fourth quarter are attained, total output of cars

in calendar 1957 would be 6,250,000, compared with 5,800,000 in 1956.

Mr. Allen then referred to estimates made by the Chicago Bank

on the automobile credit outlook.

For 1957,

automobile installment

credit outstanding was expected to increase $1 billion

from $14.5

billion at the beginning of the year to $15.5 billion at its

end.

For 1958, assuming a 4 per cent price increase and no change in the

proportion of credit sales to total, the estimated increases in out

standings were $1.8 billion if

6 million; $2.7 billion if

4.0 billion if

Mr.

the number of new cars sold totaled

new cars sold totaled 6.5 million; and $3.8

the number of new cars sold totaled 7 million.

Allen commented that frequently he doubted that monetary

policy had all of the important effects that some ascribe to it,

but

he was encouraged to note that American business firms in 1957 had

relied to a greater extent on the capital markets and to a lesser

extent on commercial banks.

He felt that credit restraint on the

commercial banks undoubtedly had helped to bring about this desirable

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result.

He noted that from January 1 to October 31, estimated new

capital issues other than refundings totaled $10.6 billion, or 30 per

cent more than last year.

in

Business loans at weekly reporting banks

the period January 1 to October 9 rose $900 million, compared with

$3.2 billion in the corresponding period of 1956.

Thus, the greater

issue of stocks and bonds almost exactly balanced the lesser growth in

loans.

Mr. Allen hoped that this meant that the growing practice of

commercial banks making term loans for longer and longer terms had at

last been arrested.

Business pessimism was greater than it

on to say, but he did not think it

watching.

both in

had been, Mr. Allen went

as yet deserved more than careful

Within the past week, two large business concerns--large

the Seventh District and the nation--had told him that they

were in process of laying off a substantial number of workers and in

one case of curtailing plant expenditures substantially.

companies had been guilty, in

Both of those

his observation over the years,

of ex

cessive optimism and pessimism alternately, Mr. Allen said, and a

dampening of the high spirits they exhibited and implemented with the

aid of substantial borrowing in 1955 and 1956 was long overdue.

more stable business managements in

The

the Seventh District area for the

most part do not appear to be more than normally pessimistic and almost

universally applaud current monetary policy.

Once more Mr.

Allen felt that the Committee should continue for

the next three weeks as it

had been doing for many months.

He would

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not favor a change in the discount rate or any other move which could

be construed as a relaxation of credit policy.

comment to say that if

side of ease.

mittee, Mr.

errors were to be made they might be on the

In his relatively short time as a member of the Com

Allen said that he had come to no better guide than what

Mr. Leach called a "benchmark."

benchmark,

He would temper this

He thought there should be such a

recognizing that the Desk had to play by ear to an extent.

He would accept a figure of $350-$400 million as such a benchmark but

he did not care too much about any specific figure.

On defense contracts,

Mr. Allen said that he did not think there

was sufficient information to call for any action at this time.

Mr.

Deming said that there had been no developments during the

past three weeks that enabled him to see the Ninth District picture

more clearly.

The net of the developments taking place was a continua

tion of the sidewise movement of the past several months.

He had

observed no district situation that would indicate anything different

for the balance of the year.

Looking beyond the Ninth District, Mr.

Deming said that the continued weakness in the stock market concerned

him, not because he saw this as mirroring what was happening but be

cause it

might influence near-term investment and inventory policy,

thereby further weakening factors that are not expansionary at the

present time.

He also was impressed with the current Treasury pinch,

the interest rate picture,

seasonal expectations in

and the possible increase beyond the normal

demand for credit because of the change in

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handling of defense contract payments.

This combination of sidewise

statistics, some bearishness in the outlook, confined mainly to the

East and not evident in

the Ninth District,

and the prospective credit

situation led him to believe that the Committee should be a shade less

aggressive than it has been in following a restrictive policy.

He sug

gested this take the form of a slightly lower net borrowed reserve

position, with no change in

change the discount rate.

the Committee's directive.

Mr.

He would not

Deming suggested that this probably

placed him closer to the position indicated by Messrs. Allen and

Shepardson than to the views expressed by some others.

With respect to discount operations,

Mr. Deming said that Mr.

Hayes had drawn a fairly clear distinction between treating defense

contracts as seasonal developments and attempting to match dollar for

dollar any increase in financing needs because of those contracts.

In

the Ninth District where there had been something of a problem in

borrowings of member banks,

with those banks,

a series of conferences had just been held

and Mr. Deming said that he would not wish to try to

explain to individual banks at this time that defense contracts were

to be regarded even in part as an appropriate use of Reserve Bank

credit.

However, he would be entirely willing to take this factor

into consideration, along with other factors, in judging the appro

priateness of applications for discount.

Mr. Mangels said that since the meeting of the Committee three

weeks ago some statistics that had become available in the Twelfth

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District gave evidence justifying the lack of enthusiasm apparent

in business sentiment in the district during the past few months.

Last year Twelfth District activities expanded more than in the

nation as a whole.

Earlier this year when a leveling tendency began

in the nation this was less pronounced in the Twelfth District than

in the country generally.

More recently the Twelfth District trend

had been much the same as the national trend but in some industries

such as construction and manufacturing weakness had been greater than

in the nation as a whole. At present there was little evidence of

buoyancy in the Twelfth District economy and if any seasonal increase

developed this fall it would be less than normal.

declined 4 per cent in September from August.

two of its ten open hearth furnaces.

Steel production

One mill had shut down

Demand for structural and bar

steel was off, and some types of sheet steel were in excessive supply.

Lumbering continued at a low rate.

2 per cent between July and August.

Manhours worked declined almost

However, nonagricultural employ

ment was expected to show an increase in September over August. Un

employment also had increased because of cs

construction.

in manufacturing and

Number of insured unemployed persons in the district

was 50 per cent higher than a year ago, and in Oregon it was double

that of last year because of the lumber situation.

The Twelfth

District agricultural situation was quite satisfactory, Mr. Mangels

said, with crops generally good but with prices for most crops other

than wheat and cotton down.

Gross farm income in 1957 should about

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equal that for 1956.

A survey of bank loans to farmers showed

that the banks were becoming more selective and that interest

rates increased by as much as 1-1/2 per cent compared with a year ago.

Loans to buy farm equipment were being watched particularly carefully.

Large unit operators were improving their financial position whereas

the position of smaller operators was worsening.

Bank loans had de

clined during the three weeks ending October 9 and demand deposits

also had decreased somewhat more than expected.

tinued to increase but at a lower rate than in

Time deposits con

the past year.

Fewer

banks had been borrowing from the Reserve Bank in recent weeks, and

twelve district banks were still

net sellers of Federal funds.

With reference to defense contracts,

Mr.

Mangels said there had

been inquiries from a number of banks but that no particular concern

was yet evident as a result of the change in the Government's program.

One large aircraft producer had indicated a need for as much as $100

million in addition to his regular $100 million line of credit and

some discussion of a V-loan had occurred.

Mr. Mangels said that he felt operations during the next few

weeks would require that the Manager of the System Account have more

than the usual degree of latitude.

range of net borrowed reserves.

He had in mind a $200-$400 million

He would not change the discount rate

at present and he saw no need for a change in the Committee's directive,

Mr. Irons said that for the nation generally a mixed situation

still prevailed.

He agreed with Mr. Allen's views:

there was no

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clear indication of a break through either way and he was not

impressed by a downward trend as yet, although he recognized this

to be a touch and go situation.

In the Eleventh District there was an attitude of caution, Mr.

Irons said.

He would not call this pessimism, but businessmen were

more cautious than they had been for some time.

continued to show a high level with little

other.

Economic indicators

change one way or the

September department store sales were above September a year

ago, but did not increase quite as much from August as expected

seasonally.

Construction contract awards were ahead of last year.

In the petroleum industry the confidence quotient was low, Mr. Irons

said, in

that leaders expected further deterioration in the situation

before any substantial improvement.

He referred to a comment that

the petroleum industry, through overdrilling and overproduction, had

been trying to get itself into trouble for six or eight years, but

every time that seemed near some fortuitous event kept them from

doing so.

The industry did not feel it could raise prices in order

to cover increased costs of production, and it

anticipated a profits

squeeze.

With respect to defense contracts, Mr. Irons said he had talked

with several aircraft and missile producers and one of them summed up

the situation by stating that from $1-1/2 to $2 billion of defense

payments would be thrown on to them.

They did not expect an even flow

but there might be $700 million to $1 billion by December.

Some of

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these manufacturers were taking steps to increase their lines of

credit.

Their concern was not with the availability of credit,

but in all cases the additional funds would be more costly to the

borrowers.

The agricultural situation was greatly improved, Mr. Irons said,

and the Eleventh District was probably in better position with a more

favorable outlook for that activity than at any time in six or eight

years.

Large crops, favorable yields, and good fall pastures were

being accompanied by increased payments from the Soil Bank.

Retail

trade people anticipate an increase in sales, gradually and moderately,

although there was weakness in sales of durable goods.

With respect to policy, Mr. Irons felt that it was too early to

make any change that would be perceptible in any way.

The degree of

restraint that had been achieved in the past three to six weeks should

be maintained.

He did not think it time to change the directive al

though in another three weeks some change in wording might be indicated.

Meantime, the Committee should hold steady and maintain the same degree

of restraint, although he would not increase restraint.

say "make errors on the side of ease,"

Rather than

Mr. Irons said he would prefer

to say "avoid erring on the side of further restraint."

He would like

to see the Treasury bill rate and the Federal funds rate hovering

around the discount rate with the bill rate within five to ten points

plus or minus the discount rate.

Mr.

In administering the discount window,

Irons would consider applications on an individual basis as

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submitted without any special treatment for any specific industry

or for defense contracts.

Mr. Erickson summarized the First District situation by

saying that factors of weakness seemed to be slightly weaker and

factors of strength were probably not quite as strong as they had

been.

The economy was still on a plateau which might be tilting.

The Boston Bank's semiannual roundup of business economists including

representatives from insurance companies, banks, universities, etc.,

was taking place today, Mr. Erickson said, and he presented the

estimates that that group had made in forecasting the probable level

of various measures of activity during the second quarter of 1958.

The annual meeting of stockholders at the Boston Bank had

been held last week, Mr.

Erickson said, and an uninspired, unsolicited

resolution had been presented by one of the stockholders at the meet

ing, this resolution having been adopted by unanimous acclamation to

the effect that the stockholders approved the policies and actions

adopted and followed by the Federal Reserve Banks and the Board of

Governors in their current efforts to combat the forces of inflation

and to maintain a sound and stable currency in the United States.

The resolution had also indicated strong disagreement with those be

lieving that the alternative to creeping inflation was continuous

substantial unemployment and depression.

Mr. Erickson said he agreed with Mr. Shepardson that the

System should remain calm.

He agreed with others that as seasonal

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reserves were required the System should supply them.

He would

make no change in the directive at this time, preferring to take

another look at it

make no change in

at the next meeting of the Committee.

the discount rate.

He would

Mr. Erickson said that he

would prefer to set no target of negative free reserves but to

maintain restraint about as in recent weeks with the understanding

that operations would err on the side of ease or less restraint.

He would leave to the Manager of the System Account the responsibility

for keeping the situation as tight as possible under the circumstances.

As for defense contract payments, Mr. Erickson reported com

ments by banks that between now and January 1 around $1 billion of

credit might be required.

However,

he did not think it

determine at this time the size of the problem.

possible to

He felt it

best to

consider each case as it arose on the basis of the bank and the

particular situation.

Something would have to be done or the desired

goods would not be delivered.

Defense contractors in the Boston

District said that there was great confusion,

mostly between the

services and the contractors.

Mr.

Szymczak said that he agreed with the substance of what

Mr. Hayes had said.

With the seasonal demands for credit, the Treas

ury's problems which were increasing by the day and which no doubt

would increase much further between now and next March, and also

with the lessened economic activity that could be observed,

he thought

the System should tend in the direction of supplying reserves to banks

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so that net borrowed reserves would be somewhere between $300 and

$00

million.

He would lean more in the direction of $300 million,

giving account to other factors in the market.

This, however,

was

just an indication of leaning in the direction of ease, Mr. Szymczak

said.

He doubted that this was the time to change the wording of

the Committee's directive.

He doubted that insertion of the word

"increased" as suggested by Mr. Hayes would be a significant change.

He did not think the Committee should change its policy now, and he

did not think there should be any change in reserve requirements or

in the discount rate at this time.

With respect to defense contracts, Mr.

Szymczak agreed with

the comments Messrs. Robertson and Mills and others had made indicating

that the Reserve Banks should not be selective in providing reserves.

An attempt to be selective might well be inconsistent with the law

and Board's regulations covering discounts.

Mr. Balderston said that before commenting on policy questions

he wished to refer to the change in progress payments on defense con

tracts.

At a meeting this afternoon, it

was hoped to develop from

the several agencies a clear enough factual picture for framing a

news release and a letter to the prime contractors reassuring people

that the Government will pay its bills, and urging prime contractors

not to push the burden off on the subcontractors.

concerned,

The Treasury is

he said, that the subcontractors getting this pressure

would lay off employees and bring political pressure which would

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confuse the situation even more.

Mr.

Balderston said the problem

is apparently of much less magnitude than had been rumored.

The

only figure he had gotten as to the added load upon commercial banks

was a figure of about $600 million (subsequently revised to $400

$500 million).

The Air Force had stressed the fact that the impact

would come gradually, not suddenly.

Mr. Balderston said he had urged

that the use of 13b on any extensive scale would conflict with the

System's current policy by putting high powered money into the economy,

but that the Reserve Banks would, of course, give appropriate con

sideration to any requests under that section.

made of the V-loan provision and Mr.

Mention also had been

Balderston said that he believed

this might be the most practical road for individual contractors to

follow.

As to use of the discount window, his retort had been that

there still

was a commercial banking system and that contractors, both

prime and sub, had banking connections which they should use in the

normal way.

It would be unwise, he said, for any indication to go out

from Washington to the prime--and from them to the subcontractors

indicating what kind of action individual Reserve Banks would take in

particular situations.

He had taken the position that the administra

tive agencies should avoid promises as to possible Federal Reserve

action.

As to monetary policy, Mr.

Balderston said he found himself

in disagreement with most of those who had spoken, leaning to the

point of view expressed by Messrs. Mills, Szymczak,

and Hayes.

To

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him, the effective administration of flexible policy would seem to

turn upon the timing and degree of change.

As to the first,

he

would lean toward promptness to avoid too long adherence to what

might impress people generally as a crusading but unrealistic position.

As to degree of policy changes, he leans ordinarily toward gradual as

distinguished from drastic ones.

As to the present, Mr.

actions until changes in

Balderston said he would delay dramatic

business were more clear than at the moment.

He interpreted the staff analysis as indicating the likelihood, but

not the certainty,

that business may be turning down.

The fall

in

stock market prices would seem likely to cause luxury buying to diminish.

Last week he had stayed at a luxury hotel in

been told of cancellations.

the South at which he had

Data for electric power,

car loadings, and

plant and equipment outlays seemed to sustain the conclusion that a

downturn may have come.

Because of these uncertainties,

might wish to consider at its

If

next meeting a change in

the Committee

the directive.

a change should be made at that time, the emphasis he would favor

would be reflected by some such wording of clause (b) of the first

paragraph of the directive as follows:

that is

"to fostering economic growth

sustainable, despite some continued upward price pressures and

uncertainties in

the financial markets and in

the international situa

tion that have their impact on business health."

Mr. Balderston said

hehad been unhappy with the present directive for some time,

It

seemed

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to him the time might come shortly to give "sustainable growth"

more emphasis than in

the recent past.

As to the Committee's goal for the next three weeks, Mr.

Balderston said he

ould favor a target of about $200-$250 million

of net borrowed reserves.

He also raised the question whether, in

view of the current uncertainties,

it

the next meeting of the Committee in

might be desirable to schedule

two weeks rather than three.

Mr. Hayes said that he was in hearty agreement with the view

that the System should avoid an announcement that would publicize the

provision for loans for industrial purposes under section 13b of the

Federal Reserve Act as a means of solving the problem with respect to

defense contract payments,

As requests were received at the Reserve

Bank they should, of course, be processed case by case.

Mr. Hayes

also felt that there was some possibility of V-loans being used con

structively, but he suggested that any initiative or publicizing of

that means should come not from the Federal Reserve but from the com

mercial banks or the Government.

With respect to credit policy, Mr.

Hayes said that it

seemed

to him the Committee had an easier time finding a consensus on the

policy to be followed in

the next few weeks than it

appraisal of the economic outlook.

would have on an

There was a fairly even division

between those who appraised the outlook with the view that statistics

and developments that had been observed held a considerable threat of

recession and those who felt

that basically such a possibility was

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to be demonstrated and that recent developments were largely

psychological with the basic factors remaining strong.

When it

came to what should be done, Mr.

much easier to find an approach to unanimity.

Hayes said, it

It

was

was clear that at

this juncture the Committee did not wish to make any overt move or

give any public signal that it

was changing policy.

supply seasonal needs reasonably freely.

to increase restraint from what it

It

has been.

It wished to

certainly did not wish

There was a mixture

of feelings on the other side, some feeling that the Committee should

actually diminish restraint a little,

it

but more members feeling that

should resolve doubts on the side of ease.

Mr. Hayes noted in

this connection that the suggested target or benchmark figures of

net borrowed reserves including the target figures suggested by

those who wished to hold steady, were a little

lower than the net

borrowed reserves the Committee had wanted during the past three

weeks.

At its preceding meeting,

of a $400-$500 million range,

the Committee had been thinking

possibly nearer to $500 million, whereas

the average of suggestions at this meeting was around $350 million.

Be that as it

may, Mr.

Hayes said that he thought it

clear that policy

was to give the Manager of the System Account considerable latitude,

to resolve doubts on the side of ease, and not to emphasize the figures

too much because of the importance of some of the other factors.

the extent that figures do enter in,

To

there was quite good unanimity

around the figure of $350 million as an average for the coming three

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weeks although some had suggested a lower figure.

On the question of the directive, Mr.

Hayes stated that it

seemed quite clear that most members of the Committee did not wish

to make a change at this time.

The consensus was that the Committee

give consideration to the question whether a change might be desirable

in

the near future.

meeting all

of Messrs.

He recommended that between now and the next

of those present give careful thought to the suggestions

Leedy and Balderston for a change in

the wording of the

directive.

With respect to the discount window and defense contracts,

Mr.

in

Hayes said it

was apparent that while views had been expressed

different language,

none of those who had commented wanted other

Government agencies to refer to the discount window as a specific

solution to the problem.

The Reserve Banks probably did not wish

in their own statements to member banks to make much of this as a

specific problem, although they wished to take this factor into

consideration in

the same manner as any other factor affecting the

seasonal needs of an individual bank.

Summing up, Mr.

Hayes said that general policy was not to be

:hanged appreciably, although it should tend a little on the easier

side from where it

had been in

recent weeks.

The Committee wished

to give the Manager of the Account substantial leeway to be guided by

the feel of the market.

change in

There should be no overt public move and no

the general directive at this time, and there was no desire

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for a change in discount rates.

differed from this evaluation.

Mr. Hayes inquired whether anyone

In the absence of comment, he sug

gested that this summary be considered the consensus of views at

this meeting and that the directive be renewed without change.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, the Committee voted

unanimously to direct the Federal Re

serve Bank of New York until otherwise

directed by the Committee:

(1) To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges

(including replacement of maturing securities, and allow

ing maturities to run off without replacement) for the

System open market account in the open market or, in the

case of maturing securities, by direct exchange with the

Treasury, as may be necessary in the light of current and

prospective economic conditions and the general credit

situation of the country, with a view (a) to relating the

supply of funds in the market to the needs of commerce

and business, (b) to restraining inflationary developments

in the interest of sustainable economic growth while

recognizing uncertainties in the business outlook, the

financial markets, and the international situation, and

(c) to the practical administration of the account, pro

vided that the aggregate amount of securities held in

the System account (including commitments for the purchase

or sale of securities for the account) at the close of

this date, other than special short-term certificates of

indebtedness purchased from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury, shall not be increased or

decreased by more than $1 billion;

(2) To purchase direct from the Treasury for the ac

count of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with dis

cretion, in cases where it seems desirable, to issue par

ticipations to one or more Federal Reserve Banks) such

amounts of special short-term certificates of indebtedness

as may be necessary from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury; provided that the total

amount of such certificates held at any one time by the

Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in the aggregate

$500 million.

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(3)

To sell direct to the Treasury from the System

account for gold certificates such amounts of Treasury

securities maturing within one year as may be necessary

from time to time for the accommodation of the Treasury;

provided that the total amount of such securities so sold

shall not exceed in the aggregate $500 million face amount,

and such sales shall be made as nearly as may be practicable

at the prices currently quoted in the open market.

Mr.

Hayes noted that Mr. Balderston had suggested the possibility

of setting the date for the next meeting of the Committee two weeks from

today.

There was brief discussion of this suggestion, at the conclusion

of which it

was agreed that the next meeting would be set for Tuesday,

November 12, 1957, at 10:00 a.m.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Assistant Secretary