fomc minutes · March 2, 1959

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held

in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

System in Washington on Tuesday, March 3, 1959,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Allen

Balderston

Deming

Erickson

Mills

Robertson

Shepardson

Szymczak

Bryan, Alternate for Mr.

at 10:00

a.m.

Johns

Messrs. Bopp, Fulton, and Leedy, Alternate Mem

bers of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Leach, Irons, and Mangels, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond, Dallas,

and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Riefler, Secretary

Mr. Thurston, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Solomon, Assistant General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Jones, Marget, Parsons, Roosa, and

Young, Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Molony, Special Assistant to the Board of

Governors

Mr. Keir, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics,

Board of Governors

Messrs. Ellis, Storrs, Baughman, Tow, and

Walker, Vice Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of Boston, Richmond, Chicago,

Kansas City, and Dallas, respectively

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Messrs. Balles and Einzig, Assistant Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks

of Cleveland and San Francisco,

respectively

Mr. Stone, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Anderson, Economic Adviser, Federal

Reserve Bank of Philadelphia

Mr. Brandt, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of Atlanta

In the agenda for this meeting,

the Secretary reported that ad

vices of the election by the Federal Reserve Banks for a period of one

year commencing March 1,

1959,

of members and alternate members of the

Federal Open Market Committee had been received and that it

appeared

that they would be legally qualified to serve after they had executed

their oaths of office.

Prior to the meeting, each newly elected

member and alternate member except Mr.

oath of office.

Johns had executed the required

The members and alternate members were as follows

J. A. Erickson, President of the Federal Reserve Bank

of Boston, with Karl R. Bopp, President of the

Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia, as alternate

member;

Alfred Hayes, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

New York, with William F. Treiber, First Vice President

of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, as alternate

member;

Carl E. Allen, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

Chicago, with Wilbur D. Fulton, President of the

Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, as alternate member;

Delos C. Johns, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of

St. Louis, with Malcolm Bryan, President of the Federal

Reserve Bank of Atlanta, as alternate member;

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Mr. Johns executed the oath of office on March 5, 1959.

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Frederick L. Deming, President of the Federal Reserve

Bank of Minneapolis, with H. G. Leedy, President of

the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, as alternate

member.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the following

officers of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee were elected to serve until the

election of their successors at the first

meeting of the Committee after February 29,

1960, with the understanding that in the

event of the discontinuance of their

official connection with the Board of

Governors or with a Federal Reserve Bank,

as the case might be, they would cease to

have any official connection with the

Federal Open Market Committee:

Wm. McC. Martin, Jr.

Alfred Hayes

Winfield W. Riefler

Elliott Thurston

Merritt Sherman

Kenneth A. Kenyon

Howard H. Hackley

Frederic Solomon

Woodlief Thomas

Homer Jones, Arthur W. Marget,

George W. Mitchell, Franklin

L. Parsons, Robert V. Roosa,

Parker B. Willis, and Ralph

A. Young

Chairman

Vice Chairman

Secretary

Assistant Secretary

Assistant Secretary

Assistant Secretary

General Counsel

Assistant General Counsel

Economist

Associate Economists

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the Federal Reserve

Bank of New York was selected to execute

transactions for the System Open Market

Account until the adjournment of the first

meeting of the Committee after February 29,

1960.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the selection by

the Board of Directors of the Federal Re

serve Bank of New York of Mr. Rouse as

Manager of the System Open Market Account

was approved.

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The minutes of the meeting of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee on February 10, 1959 were then presented for approval.

Chairman Martin called attention to the fact that there had been a

change in the voting membership of the Committee since that meeting,

four of the present members having served as alternate members during

the past year.

Some years ago,

he noted, it

had been the practice

to have a meeting of the outgoing Committee in late February of each

year in

order to ratify actions taken up to that time.

However,

Counsel had advised that such ratification (including the approval of

minutes for a meeting of the outgoing Committee) could be done by the

new Committee equally as well as by the old one, and since 1952 this

practice had been followed.

The Chairman said that, while there was

no question as to the appropriateness or legality of the present

procedure,

he was mentioning the point at this time in

order that all

members of the Committee and the Reserve Bank Presidents not currently

serving as members would have in mind the basis for the procedure now

being followed.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote, the

minutes of the meeting of the Federal

Open Market Committee held on February 10,

1959, were approved.

Chairman Martin referred to a memorandum distributed under

date of February 25, 1959,

relating to the procedure authorized at

the meeting on March 2, 1955 whereby, in addition to members and

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officers of the Committee and Reserve Bank Presidents not currently

members of the Committee, minutes and other records could be made

available to any other employee of the Board of Governors or of a

Federal Reserve Bank with the approval of a member of the Committee

or other Reserve Bank President, with notice to the Secretary.

At the Chairman's suggestion, it

was understood that this

subject would be considered later during this meeting, along with

the question of distribution of the weekly open market report pre

pared by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and the reports pre

pared by the Manager of the System Open Market Account prior to each

meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee.

At Chairman Martin's suggestion, consideration was then given

to the continuing authorizations or statements of operating policies

of the Committee customarily reviewed at the first

meeting in March

of each year, and the actions as set forth subsequently in these

minutes were taken concerning the matters that had been listed in

the agenda for review at this meeting.

It was agreed unanimously that

no action should be taken at this time

to amend or terminate the resolution

of November 20, 1936, authorizing each

Reserve Bank to purchase and sell, at

home and abroad, cable transfers, bills

of exchange, and bankers' acceptances

payable in foreign currencies to the

extent that such purchases and sales

may be deemed to be necessary or

advisable in connection with the estab

lishment, maintenance, operation, increase,

reduction, or discontinuance of accounts

of Federal Reserve Banks in foreign

countries.

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It was agreed unanimously that no

action should be taken at this time to

amend or terminate the procedure for

allocation of securities in the System

Open Market Account, as adopted pursuant

to the action of the Committee on June 11,

1953, it being understood that the re

allocation to be made as of April 1, 1959,

would be based on the ratios of each Reserve

Bank's daily average of total assets to the

total for all Reserve Banks for the period

March 1, 1958-February 28, 1959.

Unanimous approval was given to con

tinuation of the authorization to the Manager

of the System Account to engage in trans

actions on a cash as well as a regular delivery

basis.

The Committee approved by unanimous vote

a renewal of the existing authorization to

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York to enter

into repurchase agreements with nonbank dealers

in United States Government securities, subject

to the following conditions:

1.

2.

3.

Such agreements

In no event shall be at a rate below whichever is the

(a)

lower of (1) the discount rate of the Federal Reserve

Bank on eligible commercial paper, or (2) the average

issuing rate on the most recent issue of three-month

Treasury bills;

(b) Shall be for periods of not to exceed 15 calendar days;

(c) Shall cover only Government securities maturing within

15 months; and

Shall be used as a means of providing the money market

(d)

with sufficient Federal Reserve funds to avoid undue

strain on a day-to-day basis.

Reports of such transactions shall be included in the weekly

report of open market operations which is sent to the members

of the Federal Open Market Committee.

In the event Government securities covered by any such agree

ment are not repurchased by the dealer pursuant to the agree

ment or a renewal thereof, the securities thus acquired by

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shall be sold in the

market or transferred to the System Open Market Account.

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The Committee approved by unanimous

vote a renewal of the authorization to the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York (last re

newed March 4, 1958, and amended December 2,

1958) to purchase bankers' acceptances and

to enter into repurchase agreements therefor.

The authorization was as follows:

The Federal Open Market Committee hereby authorizes the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York for its own account to buy

from and sell to acceptance dealers and foreign accounts

maintained at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, at market

rates of discount, prime bankers' acceptances of the kinds

designated in the regulations of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee, at such times and in such amounts as may be advisable

and consistent with the general credit policies and instructions

of the Federal Open Market Committee, provided that the aggre

gate amount of such bankers' acceptances held at any one time

by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York shall not exceed $75

million and provided further, that such holdings shall not be

more than 10 per cent of the total of bankers' acceptances

outstanding as shown in the most recent acceptance survey

conducted by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

The Federal Open Market Committee further authorizes the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York to enter into repurchase agree

ments with nonbank dealers in bankers' acceptances covering

prime bankers' acceptances of the kinds designated in the

regulations of the Federal Open Market Committee, subject to

the same conditions on which the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York is now or may hereafter be authorized from time to time

by the Federal Open Market Committee to enter into repurchase

agreements covering United States Government securities,

except that the maturities of such barkers' acceptances at the

time of entering into such repurchase agreements shall not

exceed six months, and except that in the event of the failure

of the seller to repurchase, such acceptances shall continue

to be held by the Federal Reserve Bank or shall be sold in the

Such repurchase agreements shall be at the same

open market.

rate as that applicable, at the time of entering into such

agreements, to repurchase agreements covering United States

Government securities.

The Committee approved by unamimous

vote the continuation without change of

the existing authorization for fixing the

rate charged on special short-term certif

icates of indebtedness purchased direct

from the Treasury pursuant to paragraph (2)

of the Committee's directive, whereby such

rate would be 1/4 of 1 per cent below the

discount rate of the Federal Reserve Bank

of New York at the time of such purchase.

The Committee reaffirmed by unanimous

vote the authorization for the Chairman to

appoint a Federal Reserve Bank as agent to

operate the System Account temporarily in

case the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

was unable to function, such authorization

having first been given on March 1, 1951,

and having been renewed in March of each

year since.

The following resolution to provide

for the continued operation of the Federal

Open Market Committee during an emergency

was then reaffirmed by unanimous vote:

In the event of war or defense emergency if the Secretary

or Assistant Secretary of the Federal Open Market Committee

(or in the event of the unavailability of both of them, the

Secretary or Acting Secretary of the Board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System) certifies that as a result of the

emergency the available number of regular members and regular

alternates of the Federal Open Market Committee is less than

seven, all powers and functions of the said Committee shall be

performed and exercised by, and authority to exercise such

powers and functions is hereby delegated to, an Interim Com

mittee, subject to the following terms and conditions.

Such Interim Committee shall consist of seven members,

comprising each regular member and regular alternate of the

Federal Open Market Committee then available, together with

an additional number, sufficient to make a total of seven,

which shall be made up in the following order of priority

from those available: (1) each alternate at large (as defined

below); (2) each President of a Federal Reserve Bank not then

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President of a Federal Reserve Bank; provided that (a) within

each of the groups referred to in clauses (1), (2), and (3)

priority of selection shall be in numerical order according

to the numbers of the Federal Reserve Districts, (b) the

President and the First Vice President of the same Federal

Reserve Bank shall not serve at the same time as members of

the Interim Committee, and (c) whenever a regular member or

regular alternate of the Federal Open Market Committee or a

person having a higher priority as indicated in clauses (1),

(2), and (3) becomes available he shall become a member of

the Interim Committee in the place of the person then on the

Interim Committee having the lowest priority. The Interim

Committee is hereby authorized to take action by majority

vote of those present whenever one or more members thereof

are present, provided that an affirmative vote for the action

taken is cast by at least one regular member, regular alternate,

or President of a Federal Reserve Bank. The delegation of

authority and other procedures set forth above shall be

effective only during such period or periods as there are

available less than a total of seven regular members and

regular alternates of the Federal Open Market Committee.

As used herein the term "regular member" refers to a mem

ber of the Federal Open Market Committee duly appointed or

elected in accordance with existing law; the term "regular

alternate" refers to an alternate of the Committee duly elected

in accordance with existing law and serving in the absence of

the regular member for whom he was elected; and the term

"alternate at large" refers to any other duly elected alternate

of the Committee at a time when the member in whose absence he

was elected to serve is available.

Unanimous approval was also given

to a renewal of the resolution set forth

below authorizing certain actions by the

Federal Reserve Banks during an emergency:

The Federal Open Market Committee hereby authorizes each

Federal Reserve Bank to take any or all of the actions set forth

below during war or defense emergency when such Federal Reserve

unable after reasonable efforts to be in com

Bank finds itself

munication with the Federal Open Market Committee (or with the

Interim Committee acting in lieu of the Federal Open Market

Committee) or when the Federal Open Market Committee (or such

Interim Committee) is unable to function.

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(1) Whenever it deems it necessary in the light of

economic conditions and the general credit situation then

prevailing (after taking into account the possibility of

providing necessary credit through advances secured by

direct obligations of the United States under the last

paragraph of section 13 of the Federal Reserve Act), such

Federal Reserve Bank may purchase and sell obligations of

the United States for its own account, either outright or

under repurchase agreement, from and to banks, dealers, or

other holders of such obligations.

(2)

In case any prospective seller of obligations of

the United States to a Federal Reserve Bank is unable to

tender the actual securities representing such obligations

because of conditions resulting from the emergency, such

Federal Reserve Bank may, in its discretion and subject to

such safeguards as it deems necessary, accept from such

seller, in lieu of the actual securities, a "due bill"

executed by the seller in form acceptable to such Federal

Reserve Bank stating in substantial effect that the seller

is the owner of the obligations which are the subject of

the purchase, that ownership of such obligations is thereby

transferred to the Federal Reserve Bank, and that the

obligations themselves will be delivered to the Federal

Reserve Bank as soon as possible.

Such Federal Reserve Bank may in its discretion

(3)

purchase special certificates of indebtedness directly from

the United States in such amounts as may be needed to cover

overdrafts in the general account of the Treasurer of the

United States on the books of such Bank or for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury, but such Bank shall take all

steps practicable at the time to insure as far as possible

that the amount of obligations acquired directly from the

United States and held by it, together with the amount of

such obligations so acquired and held by all other Federal

Reserve Banks, does not exceed $5 billion at any one time.

Authority to take the actions above set forth shall be

effective only until such time as the Federal Reserve Bank is

able again to establish communications with the Federal Open

Market Committee (or the Interim Committee), and such Com

mittee is then functioning.

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By unanimous vote, the Committee

reaffirmed the authorization given at

the meeting on December 16, 1958, pro

viding that System personnel assigned

to the Office of Civil and Defense

Mobilization Classified Location (High

Point) on a rotating basis have access

to the resolutions (1) providing for

continued operation of the Committee

during an emergency and (2) authorizing

certain actions by the Federal Reserve

Banks during an emergency.

Chairman Martin noted that there was being presented to the

Committee for review the resolution adopted on June 21, 1939, request

ing the Board of Governors to cause its examining force in the future

to furnish the Secretary of the Federal Open Market Committee a report

of each examination of the System Open Market Account.

He commented

that the procedure then established had been followed up to the present

time,

that there had been no suggestion for a change, and that it

would

seem appropriate to continue the procedure without change.

There was unanimous agreement that

no action be taken to change the existing

procedure.

Chairman Martin then presented for the approval of the Committee

the following continuing operating policy that had last been reaffirmed

at the meeting on March 4, 1958:

a. It is not now the policy of the Committee to support

any pattern of prices and yields in the Government securities

market, and intervention in the Government securities market

is solely to effectuate the objectives of monetary and credit

policy (including correction of disorderly markets).

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Upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the foregoing statement of policy

was reaffirmed.

There was also presented for the consideration of the Com

mittee the following continuing operating policy that had last been

reaffirmed at the meeting on March 4,

1958:

b.

Operations for the System Account in the open

market, other than repurchase agreements, shall be

confined to short-term securities (except in the cor

rection of disorderly markets), and during a period of

Treasury financing there shall be no purchases of (1)

maturing issues for which an exchange is being offered,

(2) when-issued securities, or (3) outstanding issues

of comparable maturities to those being offered for

exchange; these policies to be followed until such time

as they may be superseded or modified by further action

of the Federal Open Market Committee.

Mr.

Hayes recalled that at the meeting on March 4,

1958, he

had stated that while he would not vote to approve the statement in

its

present form, he would vote to approve a similar statement if

it

included the qualifying phrase "as a general rule" after the word

"shall" in

line.

the second line and after the word "shall" in

However,

the fifth

the other members of the Committee were not disposed

at that time to make those changes.

Mr. Hayes said that, without going into the merits of the

matter, he continued to have the same reservations as a year ago.

There was no acute problem, but he had not changed his view that

there should be more flexibility in

the statement.

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Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, the foregoing statement

of policy was reaffirmed, Mr. Hayes

voting "no" for the reason he had

indicated.

There was next presented for consideration the following

continuing operating policy:

c.

Transactions for the System Account in the open

market shall be entered into solely for the purpose of

providing or absorbing reserves (except in the correction

of disorderly markets), and shall not include offsetting

purchases and sales of securities for the purpose of

altering the maturity pattern of the System's portfolio;

such policy to be followed until such time as it may be

superseded or modified by further action of the Federal

Open Market Committee.

Mr. Hayes noted that at the meeting on March 4,

1958, he had

also expressed a reservation concerning this statement of policy.

He

had then taken the position that he would vote to approve the state

ment if

it

were amended to substitute the word "primarily" for the

word "solely" in

the second line and if

the qualifying phrase "as a

general rule" were inserted after the word "shall" in the fourth line.

He would also have been agreeable to alternative wording as suggested

by Mr.

Bopp at that meeting.

Some change along the lines he had then

suggested would be satisfactory to him, but he still

dissented from

the present wording and would prefer not to vote for the statement in

its

existing form.

Chairman Martin inquired whether any others wished to record

dissent from the existing wording of either this policy statement or

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the preceding one,

and there was no indication of such a desire.

Thereupon, upon motion duly

made and seconded, the foregoing

statement of policy was reaffirmed,

Mr.

Hayes voting "no".

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report prepared at the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York covering open market operations during the period February 10

through February 25, 1959, and a supplementary report covering the

period February 26 through March 2, 1959.

have been placed in

Copies of both reports

the files of the Federal Open Market Committee.

Mr. Rouse stated that the money market had been generally firm

over the past three weeks.

Tendencies toward ease developed on a few

days despite the generally tighter statistical reserve position, but

these were met by sales of bills.

during the past three weeks and $43

Nearly $300 million bills were sold

million were redeemed, much more

than offsetting a net rise of about $67 million in

ments.

repurchase agree

The principal matter of interest over these weeks was the

Government securities market, which had given a good account of itself.

Good nonbank demand brought recent new issues to premium quotations

and carried bill

rates down by 20 to 30 basis points before demand

dried up last week.

This demand disappeared very quickly, and bill

rates rose sharply on Tuesday and Wednesday.

bills were a factor in

The System's sales of

the performance of the bill

market early last

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week,

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but not the main factor.

Rates moved downward again at the

end of the calendar week, reflecting the investment of part of the

proceeds of the recent Chicago-O'Hare Airport bond offering.

rates in

the bill

month bill

Mr.

Average

auction yesterday were 2.82 per cent for the three

and 3.11 per cent for the six-month bill.

Rouse went on to say that after the reserve projections

attached to the supplementary report on open market operations had

been prepared yesterday, word was received of a downward revision,

dating back to February 1, in

the level of required reserves.

This

meant that each net borrowed reserve figure shown in those projections

should be reduced by $43 million.

Mr. Rouse noted that the markets for corporate and municipal

bonds had had a good tone and that the calendar of new corporate

issues had been light.

In the case of two recent corporate offerings

the Duquesne Lighting and Illinois Bell Telephone issues-underwriter

bidding was strong and resulted in

relatively low reoffering yields:

4.25 per cent on the Duquesne issue and 4.32 per cent on the Illinois

Bell Telephone issue.

Neither issue afforded much protection against

early call, and thus far not more than 20 per cent of either offering

had been distributed.

In the municipal market an issue of $103.5

million New Housing Authority bonds went very well at yields up to

3.60 per cent in

tax-free interest.

In general, better feeling was

evident in the corporate and municipal markets.

Looking ahead, the

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principal problem would be Treasury financing, for it

appeared that

the Treasury would have to be in the market frequently during the

balance of this year.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions during

the period February 10 through March 2,

1959, were approved, ratified, and

confirmed.

Chairman Martin then turned to Mr. Young, who made a statement

on the economic situation supplementary to the staff memorandum dis

tributed under date of February 27, 1959.

Mr. Young's comments were

substantially as follows:

We can summarize the economic situation about as follows:

(1) Each month productive activity shows further

gain, with accompanying improvement in income,

employment, and labor market conditions.

(2) Consumer and business spending continues ir

regular advance, with slow but steady strengthen

ing of investment-type buying.

(3) Each successive survey of consumer and business

expectations shows mounting optimism and also

steady spread of inflationary expectations.

Industrial prices, led by prices of industrial

(4)

with the

materials, maintain upward tilt,

average of wholesale prices held stable only

by declining prices of farm products.

(5) Continuing investor confidence in high levels

of stock prices increasingly points to a stock

market really in orbit.

(6) Successive reports from foreign industrial

countries are confirming an onset of upward

swing in activity for them.

In short, the picture is one of budding inflationary boom.

Total national product for the first quarter is estimated

at $464 billion, up $10 billion or 2-1/2 per cent from the fourth

quarter.

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With the gains evident for February in output of steel,

aluminum, copper, construction materials, and producers'

equipment, the February index of industrial production should

rise at least one index point and possibly two points, with a

one to two point further rise in the index likely for March in

view of the elimination of work stoppage influences in glass

and autos.

At present writing, a first

quarter average for the

industrial production index of 145 seems more than a possibility;

indeed, we now regard it as a likelihood.

The value of real estate construction put in place in Feb

ruary, seasonally adjusted, fell

off slightly from January,

reflecting declines in nonresidential construction. Also,

housing starts in January, seasonally adjusted, fell back from

1.3

million to 1.35 million units.

Contract awards and trade

reports, however, continue to indicate strong construction

activity and the recent bulge in FHA applications and VA

appraisal requests more than likely foreshadows maintenance

for the present of high level housing starts.

Further gains in employment in trade, State and local

government, and steel and related industries, along with

continued high employment in construction, suggest further

moderate strengthening of the labor market.

Judging from

unemployment claim figures, however, which have about moved

seasonally, no large dent has been made since mid-January in

the unemployment lump.

The results of three expectational surveys, recently

The first

becoming available, carry portents for the future.

is the NICB-Newsweek survey of new manufacturing appropriations

It shows for the fourth

for plant and equipment expenditures.

quarter a significant turnaround in these appropriations by

durable goods industries.

The second is the Dun and Bradstreet survey of businessmen's

It

January.

expectations for the near-term future, taken in late

shows the highest level of business optimism regarding sales and

Although the majority of businessmen

profits since late 1955.

still expect their own prices to show little change, the survey

reports a significant further jump in expectations of rising

prices.

The third survey is the Board's survey of consumer expecta

Preliminary data from this survey

tions, plans, and finances.

expect general business con

consumers

of

cent

show that 55 per

ditions to be good in 1959, compared with 32 per cent in 1958

About 61 per cent

and about 60 per cent in the period 1955-57.

7 per cent in

with

compared

1959,

in

to

rise

prices

expect

of

proportion

The

1953-54.

in

cent

per

1958 and about 16

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consumers reporting income increases and improved financial

positions over the preceding 12 months rose somewhat from

early 1958 to early 1959 but remained slightly below the

1957 proportion, while the proportion expecting further

income increases during 1959 reached a new high.

Consumer plans to purchase houses are considerably higher

than in 1958 and about the same as the previous peak in 1955-56,

and consumers plan to spend a record amount for the houses that

they purchase.

They plan to buy about the same number of auto

mobiles as in other recent years, but plans are for fewer new

cars and more used cars than in any recent year except 1958.

Prospective purchasers of new cars plan to buy more expensive

cars than in other recent years, but purchasers of used cars

expect to spend somewhat less. Consumer plans to make housing

additions and repairs rose to a new high, but plans to purchase

household goods showed little

change.

In conclusion, the following observations may be pertinent.

The economy has now about attained the preceding cyclical high

in industrial production and is exceeding it in terms of aggre

gate output of goods and services.

As expansion continues,

business demands for fixed capital and for stock may be expected

to gain in strength. It is at this stage of the cycle that

upward pressures typically start to mount on costs and wholesale

prices of products other than farm products and foods.

In the 1949-50 recovery, average industrial prices did not

show any significant advance until industrial production was

In the 1951-55 expansion,

far above its November 198 peak.

industrial prices did not show significant rise until the July

This pattern of cyclical

1953 production peak had been exceeded.

advance in industrial prices is not uniquely associated with the

post-World War II period; it has been characteristic of cyclical

experience through modern history.

This year, the response of industrial prices to increasing

demands has been at least as prompt and as strong as in the two

Increases have been fairly wide

preceding postwar expansions.

spread, encompassing finished products as well as materials.

Such a development-- though not atypical--is disturbing in

sizable

For one thing, unemployment is still

several respects.

the

at

than

larger

is

and at 6 per cent of the labor force

Second, pro

comparable phase of the two preceding cycles.

last year;

substantial

were

ductivity gains in manufacturing

rose

profits

corporate

and

some;

declined

unit labor costs

Third,

end.

year

by

levels

sharply to close to prerecession

as yet

means

no

by

abroad--are

and

pressures on capacity--here

some

to

rate

operating

steel

the

in

rise

acute. The sharp

extent reflects precautionary buying against a possible strike

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rather than any corresponding increase in final demands for

steel products. Finally, the whole climate, including that

of the stock market, savors of an inflationary psychology

taking form well ahead of inflationary boom but capable of

inducing it.

In other words, the economy appears poised for a price

runup in anticipation of real pressures from actual demands

for labor and for goods.

In an optimistic climate and on

the basis of financial resources now in being, such a runup

could be validated in markets for a time, but the costs in

ensuing instability would be high.

Mr.

Balderston asked Mr. Young for his view as to whether the

rate of improvement since the business turnaround in

April of last

year had been typical and also for his view as to whether the supposed

letdown in February was real.

Mr. Young replied that the pattern up to this point in

terms

of output of goods and services had been just about typical when

measured against the record of business cycles going back into the

last century, which showed that in periods of advance of output there

tended to be recurring changes of pace.

At first

the pace would be

rapid, then would slow down a bit, and then pick up a bit

before

reaching a level from which further gain tended to be difficult and

slow in coming.

There had been quite a bit of comment in February

about future prospects,

with a good many qualifying observations and

some skepticism expressed about forces that would carry expansion

forward, but it seemed to him that this kind of observation was rather

typical in

an expansion period.

The source of the expansion movement

was never clear until the expansion had gone very far; then one could

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see in retrospect where those forces came from.

matter of a little

here and a little

Actually, it

was a

there, which together added up

to a lot.

A staff memorandum on the outlook for Treasury cash require

ments had been distributed under date of February 27, 1959.

further reference to credit developments,

With

Mr. Thomas made a statement

substantially as follows:

Credit developments so far in 1959 have been

characterized by relatively light credit demands from

business--both long-term and short-term--but large

demands from governments--Federal, State, and local.

Individuals' borrowings against mortgages seem to be

continuing in large volume and consumer credit, after

increasing more than seasonally in the late months of

1958, showed substantially less than the usual seasonal

contraction in January and probably also in February.

Business loans at city banks have contracted approxi

mately the usual seasonal amount since the end of the year,

although somewhat less than in the same period last year.

Increases may begin, however, if inventory buying expands.

Bank loans on securities have shown a larger decline this

New corporate issues

year than in the two previous years.

of securities have been in much smaller volume so far this

year than in the same period of other recent years. New

issues by States and local governments, however, offered

or scheduled for offering this month total only about 10

per cent less than the unusually large volume of last

quarter. A large volume of new issues by

year's first

scheduled for future

State and local governments is still

offering.

The Federal Government borrowed over $5.5 billion in

two months, while redeeming about $3.0 billion

the first

After retiring tax anticipation

of debt obligations.

securities maturing this month, the debt will show a net

decline of only about three-quarters of a billion dollars,

compared with decreases of $2-1/4 billion and $1-3/4 in

the same quarter of the two previous years. Moreover, in

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the next quarter the Treasury will have a net cash deficit,

necessitating further borrowing, in contrast to surpluses

that have been customary in other years.

In the aggregate, total loans and investments of com

mercial banks seem to have declined by at least the usual

seasonal amount-if not more-in the first

two months of

this year.

Not only have loans contracted, but bank holdings

of U. S. Government securities have also declined, notwith

standing that the contra-seasonal net borrowing by the Treasury

has been principally in the short-term market.

Banks have

subscribed for the issues offered for cash, but they have sold

securities in the market or redeemed maturing issues in larger

aggregate amounts than their subscriptions.

The money supply has declined by about the usual seasonal

amount for the year to date. In contrast to this time last

year, when they were increasing sharply, time deposits have

shown little

change this year.

Nevertheless, over-all liquidity

of the economy has evidently continued to expand.

Adding to the

rapid growth in demand and time deposits that occurred in 1958,

nonbank holders have considerably increased their holdings of

short-term Government securities in recent weeks.

Purchases of securities, largely by nonbank investors,

have been responsible for the improved tone of the Government

securities market since the conclusion of the latest Treasury

financing operation. Holdings by dealers, as well as by banks,

have been reduced in the past few weeks. Yields on Government

securities have declined from the record high levels reached

around the middle of January, with the sharpest decreases in

medium-term issues. Rates on short-term issues also declined,

in the 3-months bills, as investors

with sharp drops at first

sought liquidity in view of uncertainty as to the course of

longer-term rates, but later the decrease spread to the 6-months

bills and then to other short-term issues. In the past week

short-term rates have risen somewhat, as mid-March cash needs

approach, but longer-term issues have continued firm.

Greater strength in securities markets has developed,

although there has been some further tightening in the reserve

position of banks. In February net borrowed reserves of all

member banks averaged about $60 million, as indicated by

revised figures, which show that country banks' required

reserves have been less than had been estimated. Nevertheless

excess reserves at country banks have declined to a somewhat

lower level than is customary. Reserve city banks have

New York City banks, on the other

continued relatively tight.

hand, have had somewhat more comfortable reserve positions in

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recent weeks than earlier in the year.

Transactions in

Federal funds have been particularly large in recent weeks,

indicating considerable variation in the distribution of

available reserves.

It should be kept in mind that market interest rates are

still

high relative to the level of member bank borrowing and

to the discount rate, as compared with previous periods.

They

appear also to be high in view of the absence of an increase,

seasonally adjusted, in total bank credit.

Estimates of reserve needs for the next few weeks indicate

that net borrowed reserves may continue below $100 million

until the latter part of the month, if changes in deposits and

currency, as well as in other reserve factors, show the customary

seasonal variations. Estimates prepared by the New York Reserve

Bank indicate a much larger volume of demands on reserves during

the next three weeks.

The major reason for this difference is

an implication of a larger increase in deposits and currency

than is assumed in the estimates of the Board's staff.

There is a reasonable basis for uncertainty and differences

of judgment as to the course of deposits at this time. Treasury

tax and loan accounts will no doubt decline sharply in the next

two weeks and the subsequent increase from tax receipts will be

less than usual because of the large amount of tax anticipation

certificates to be retired.

The question is whether other

deposits will increase as much as or more than usual prior to

tax payments and decline less later. Businesses have smaller

tax liabilities this month than in other years and relatively

larger holdings of tax anticipation securities, as well as

other short-term securities and fairly good-sized deposit

balances.

They should not need, therefore, to build up

balances by borrowing or selling securities to banks in the

It would follow also that

same amounts as in other years.

business deposits might not decline as much as usual when

taxes are paid. Over a period of four or five weeks, the net

result should conform to the usual seasonal pattern. If it

does not, then System operations may need to be adjusted

accordingly. What will actually happen, however, is still a

matter of conjecture. So far, no reason for a shift in

System policy moves is indicated.

This situation illustrates the type of development that

might be expected to occur at other times this year when large

cash payments are being made. It poses a problem with respect

to System policy. It would appear that the economy has ade

quate liquidity to finance further expansion. Under the

circumstances further growth in the money supply may be

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unnecessary for some time, or at least not until there

is evidence that monetary needs may be unduly retarding

growth. Pressures upon the money market and upon banks

may be expected to develop when the public finds it

necessary to draw upon time deposits, or liquidate

securities, or borrow at banks in order to obtain addi

tional cash.

It would appear that there are no such pressures at

present.

The System, however, should be prepared to

resist them if they should arise to a degree that endangers

stability. Restraints can be applied by making it necessary

for banks to borrow any additional reserves desired and by

having a discount rate that is close enough to market rates

to penalize any such borrowing.

It would probably be

advisable to establish such a rate even before the need

arises, particularly since the Treasury financing schedule

limits the periods when an increase in the rate would be

possible even though appropriate for other reasons.

In response to a question about the expectations for Treasury

financing, Mr. Thomas referred to the information contained in the

staff memorandum dated February 27, 1959.

He went on to say that the

Treasury was raising another $100 million through addition to the

March 12 bill offering and that this, he understood, might continue

for a number of weeks if necessary.

Estimates indicated that the

Treasury would need about $4 billion in April, and whatever was not

obtained through the bill

other means.

offerings would have to be obtained through

There would be a refunding operation in May and there

might be cash needs in June, depending on how much cash was raised

in May.

Mr. Rouse said he understood that the Treasury wanted to

consult with its

advisory committees on the 18th or 19th of March,

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with a view to making an offering the following week and obtaining

payment March 30 or 31.

The Treasury would again consult its

advisory

committees during the week of April 19 on the refunding operation and

presumably would make a fairly early offering after that.

It

was

understood that the Treasury probably would come to market in May,

and he felt it

in the first

would have to borrow in

June because of large demands

week of July.

Chairman Martin said that Mr. Rouse had accurately outlined

information given to him (Chairman Martin) by Secretary Anderson and

Under Secretary Baird.

The Treasury hoped to announce the next

financing March 19 or 20 and would then anticipate a schedule such as

Mr.

Rouse had outlined, with a little

leeway on either side.

Mr. Hayes commented that what had been thought of as the April

financing apparently was to be moved ahead a little

the end of March.

and finalized at

This would leave a gap of 18 or 19 days between that

date and the next financing.

Chairman Martin commented that the program for June was un

certain.

However, it

was more likely than not that the Treasury would

have to come to the market in

June.

Mr. Hayes then made the following statement of his views on

the business outlook and credit policy:

Since it seems to me that the System faces a very

hard decision at this time with respect to the discount

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rate, most of my remarks will be directed toward an attempt

to summarize the issues involved in that decision as I see

them.

First, as to the business outlook: This is much the

same as at out last meeting, with business expansion likely

to continue at a moderate rate. At this juncture it is not

possible to gauge accurately how the year's pattern of

business activity may be affected by the current distortion

in the steel industry and by the steel strike, if it eventuates.

While retail sales have been very satisfactory, there is no

evidence that consumers are really in an enthusiastic buying

mood. Business sentiment is guardedly optimistic, probably

more "guardedly" than in the past month or two; and neither

the demand and supply situation nor recent price developments

suggest an inflationary atmosphere.

(For example, the nonfood

component of the consumers price index declined in January for

the first

time in a year.) Last week our directors, discussing

the business situation, were unanimous in an appraisal along

these general lines, stressing the absence of any noticeable

expansion in plant and equipment spending programs and the

probable continuance of conservative inventory policies in

most industries for some months to come. They were encouraged

by the recent sharp gains in productivity, and the consequent

upward trend of profits, but they saw no early solution to the

serious unemployment problem.

There seems to be nothing in this business picture that

would warrant any overt move which could be interpreted as

indicative of more intensive credit restraint. Nor do recent

bank credit changes support such an action. The behaviour of

business loans so far this year, both in city banks and in the

banking system as a whole, has been anything but exuberant;

and the decline in total loans and investments of city banks

has been about in line with the average of recent years.

It is only when we view the prospect for vast additional

cash financing by the Treasury through the remainder of 1959,

with all that this could imply in the way of excessive growth

of the money supply, that we find real cause for concern and

perhaps cause for action in the discount rate area. We now

estimate that $5 to $6 billion must be borrowed by the Treasury

between now and the end of June, and about $15 billion in the

second half of the year. Obviously we should try to encourage

a smooth flow of the new securities through the banks, acting

Fortunately

as underwriters, into the hands of nonbank holders.

this process has been taking place in recent months, aided by

the rise in interest rates which has already occurred. The

Treasury's continual excursions to the market will of themselves

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tend to push short-term market rates higher over the remainder

of the year. The question is whether we should anticipate this

tendency by moving the discount rate up promptly to 3 per cent,

thus serving notice of our determination to prevent the

Treasury's program from causing a dangerous expansion of the

money supply--or whether to delay action until a further rise

in market rates has established a clearer case for a technical

adjustment of this magnitude to bring the discount rate into

line. Our problem has not been made easier by the tendency

for 90-day Treasury bill rates to decline during the past

month, as temporary excess funds have sought investment in

the shortest instrument--for unfortunately the market still

tends to look at the 90-day Treasury bill rate as the short-term

market rate, whereas if they were to look rather at a complex

of short-term rates, including the 6-month bill, they would

find a wider spread above the 2-1/2 per cent discount rate.

At their meeting last week our directors discussed the

pros and cons of a rate change at great length. I tried to

present the arguments on both sides as objectively as possible,

in order to get a very free expression of views in this pre

liminary discussion. I would say that all of the directors

approached the problem with an attitude of extreme caution;

and that the majority were averse to a rate increase, primarily

because in their judgment it would be unwise to "rock the boat"

when recovery is proceeding satisfactorily but with very few

Fears were expressed as to the bad

inflationary overtones.

psychological effect at a time when the country is concerned

Fear was expressed that

over continuing heavy unemployment.

a discount rate increase might trigger a prime rate increase

which would be damaging to further recovery--although one of

our banker-directors doubted whether the prime rate would

follow us at once in the absence of greater loan demand than

It was also suggested that a rate increase

is now in evidence.

as helpful to the Treasury's financing

upon

might not be looked

at best; that we should be reluc

difficult

is

which

problem,

for arguing that the Fed is

grounds

Congress

give

tant to

causing a sharp rise in carrying charges on the national debt,

when it is faulty fiscal policy which is really to blame; and

that we might have a very hard time "selling" a discount rate

rise as a technical adjustment to bring the discount rate

closer in line with market rates, because of the absence of a

The thought was expressed by one

very clear-cut disparity.

industrialist that corporate funds will probably continue to

be reasonably abundant for the purchase of new Treasury issues,

because of the high level of profits and the probable absence

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of any upsurge in inventory or plant and equipment expendi

tures. Another director questioned whether nonbank buying

would be greatly stimulated by a higher discount rate.

I pointed out that the opportunities for rate action

are likely to be few and far between for the remainder of

this year; that if we failed to act within the first

two

weeks of March, the earliest next opportunity might be well

along in April. However, there was general reluctance on

the part of our directors to make a move sooner than might

be desirable on economic grounds, merely because we fear an

excessive growth of the money supply at some future date and

because we expect Treasury financing to inhibit discount rate

action during late March and much of April. Most of the

directors would lean toward awaiting the development of clear

cut reasons for apprehension before moving the rate.

I confess that I am greatly puzzled as to what is the

right solution to this problem. I suspect that the impact of

the Treasury's vast financing program will in any case bring

about an upward trend in short-term interest rates during the

Thus the early establishment of a 3 per cent

coming months.

rate might conceivably be looked upon as a technical adjust

ment to a rate level which, if not actually here today, is

very likely to arrive in the near future; and it would have

the advantage of demonstrating to this country and to the

world our awareness of the threat inherent in deficit

financing and our determination to defend the value of the

dollar. If, as I believe, any increase in the discount rate

under present conditions should be regarded by us and ex

plained to the public as a technical adjustment, it would be

Banks to act.

helpful for New York to be one of the first

But at the same time I share some of the doubts of our

directors and would feel much better if the timing of the

Treasury's program were not tending to "rush" us in our

decision. I would anticipate some considerable difficulty

in persuading our directors to act on the rate this week or

Perhaps it would be just as well to defer action

next.

until the second or third week of April, even though the

open interval at that time will be shorter than we would

ordinarily like. A second alternative, which might be

indicated if early action is preferred by the System as a

whole, would be to limit the rate increase to 1/4 per cent

in order to make it clear that only a technical adjustment

I would like to hear how the other Presidents

is intended.

and the Governors view this problem before making up my own

mind as to what to recommend to our directors.

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With respect to open market policy, I would not like

to see any conscious move toward greater restraint but

would expect the pressure of Treasury financing to bring

about some increase in Treasury bill rates and would not

interfere with such a trend.

I think the directive might

well be left as it is.

Mr.

Erickson said that upon his return from South America he

had reviewed economic developments with his staff and that the acceler

ated pace of activity evident several weeks ago did not seem to have

carried through in the month of February,

for improvement nationally

and in the First District appeared to have proceeded at a much milder

pace than before.

First District production, employment,

construction,

and department store sales were up slightly compared with the same

period last year, while savings deposits were not increasing as much

as last year.

During the last two weeks there had been greater use

of the discount window by country banks than last year; 50 banks were

borrowing on one particular day.

From a reading of the minutes of the last two Committee meetings,

Mr.

Erickson said, it

appeared that the System was confronted with a

difficult question of timing.

Balancing the pros and cons, he would

lean toward doing nothing on the directive or the discount rate at this

time, waiting to see what happened by the time of the next Committee

meeting, and then possibly acting on the discount rate in April.

In

open market operations, he would lean on the side of restraint even

though that produced higher net borrowed reserve figures than indicated.

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Mr.

Erickson then commented briefly on his trip to South

America during which he visited eight central banks.

Mr.

Irons said that he viewed the over-all economic situation

about as Mr.

Young had pointed it

up in

his statement.

There was con

tinuing strength and continuing gradual expansion in most of the major

indicators of economic activity.

He could not see very clearly the

reasons for some of the lessening of optimism among economists that

had been reported in

the press recently.

Young had said, it

just what triggered recovery,

was difficult to tell

a lot of little

As Mr.

for it

was usually

things accumulating into an expansive force which first

broadens recovery and then extends gradually into a general expansion

of economic activity.

Mr. Irons continued by saying that the Eleventh District

seemed to be following the national pattern, with gradual strengthen

ing at a high level of activity.

Retail trade was holding up well

and nonagricultural employment was showing gradual improvement.

Crude oil production was up a bit, but refining had declined somewhat,

due in

large part to a strike at one of the large refineries which was

settled yesterday.

particularly in

The aircraft industry had sustained some setback,

the Dallas area, as the result of the Defense Depart

ment's shift of emphasis from manned aircraft to missiles, and it

appeared that as many as 6,000 workers might be laid off by the first

of June.

However,

a substantial number of those already laid off

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had moved to other places and recruiters from other sections of the

country were now working in

the Dallas area.

Agriculture had been

doing fairly well.

Eleventh District business loans, Mr. Irons said, had increased

a little

more than last year, but generally the banking trends were

close to the usual seasonal movement.

There was not much borrowing

from the Reserve Bank, and very little

on the part of country banks.

Larger banks were tending to use Federal funds rather than borrow from

the Reserve Bank.

Turning to open market operations, Mr. Irons expressed the

view that in the last three weeks the Account Manager had done about

the right sort of job; he had maintained a reasonable degree of

restraint in

the face of some large shifts in

statistics, a mal

distribution of reserves, and other disturbing factors.

The discount

rate was the difficult problem right now and probably the decision on

it

would have something to do with what open market policy should be.

In his opinion, open market policy should maintain the degree of

restraint that had prevailed, with any doubts resolved on the re

strictive side, and the degree of restraint should be consistent with

an interest rate structure appropriate to the discount rate structure.

Viewing only the banking picture, there was not too strong a demand

indicated for an increase in

the discount rate.

was going along well and possibly the seeds

The economic situation

of further inflation were

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being sown, but at the moment the situation did not seem too pressing.

However,

if

no move on the discount rate were made now,

the System

might be barred from moving in the reasonably near future, for it

had

been the position of the Committee that whenever the Treasury got near

to coming into the market the status quo should be maintained.

balance,

therefore, he would favor taking advantage of the present

opportunity to increase the discount rate to 3 per cent.

with Mr.

On

Hayes that it

He agreed

would be desirable for the New York Bank and

a number of other Banks to move together, but a matter of a week did

not seem to make too much difference.

could move on the rate whenever it

While he wished that the System

desired without regard to the

Treasury situation, in view of the current ground rules the System

must adapt itself

and take advantage of whatever opportunities were

presented to it.

Mr.

Mangels said that West Coast business activity had shown

further moderate expansion during January.

Construction was particularly

strong, with payrolls reflecting a general increase.

ment from December to January declined 8 per cent,

heavy demand for copper,

Insured unemploy

there was a rather

and lumber continued strong.

Department store

sales were relatively strong through February and automobile sales

showed small gains.

The agricultural situation was not quite as

favorable as for the country as a whole; large numbers of livestock

were on feed and in many cases operations were being conducted without

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profit or even at a deficit.

For the three weeks ended February 18,

bank loans increased somewhat, with half of the increase in real

estate loans, but in general loan demand was rather light and for the

next three to five months no heavy demand for bank credit was expected.

The banks reported no great demand for loans to pay taxes.

Demand

deposits and time deposits fell during the period mentioned, and

district banks were beginning to feel somewhat pinched for funds.

The particular bank he referred to at the last Committee meeting had

now indicated to its branches that they should be more selective in

making real estate loans.

The large banks on the West Coast had been

net borrowers of Federal funds, but use of the discount window was

scattered and intermittent.

Regarding policy, Mr. Mangels saw no reason to change the

degree of restraint existing at present.

was somewhat uncertain.

On the discount rate, he

There had been a full discussion of the

rate at the meeting of the San Francisco Bank's executive committee

last Wednesday and four of the five directors present were quite

definitely opposed to an increase at the present time.

the situation today with October 23, 1958,

Comparing

the effective date of the

last San Francisco increase, the directors noted that total employ

ment had increased only slightly, total unemployment had risen, the

wholesale and consumer price indexes had increased only slightly, and

the money supply was about the same.

*

City bank loans and investments

The Board approved an increase to 2-1/2 per cent at certain Reserve

Banks on October 23, 1958; the effective date at San Francisco was

November 6, 1958.

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showed a 1-1/2 per cent increase,

and the rate of borrowing from

the Federal Reserve Bank was not substantially different.

Treasury bill

While

rates went up in the past few days, they had been

somewhat below the October level, and commercial paper and bankers'

acceptance rates showed no change.

Rates on finance company paper

and loans to Government securities dealers were up, but call loans

on stock had not changed in rate.

Therefore,

the directors felt

that there was not much in the statistics to justify a discount rate

increase at this time.

If,

however,

other Reserve Banks acted before

the next meeting of the San Francisco directors (March 11), he felt

that the latter would go along.

There might be some question whether

a 1/2 per cent increase would be in order or whether a 1/4 per cent

increase would present a more logical basis for action.

Mr.

Mangels concluded by saying that he considered the policy

directive satisfactory.

Mr.

Deming said that business sentiment in the Ninth District

continued to indicate a measure of optimism, tempered by the fact

that most of the available current indicators had registered no

particular advance either in

January or February.

While a case

might be made that the rate of recovery had slackened somewhat since

December,

in

the strong winter seasonal trend almost obscures real trends

the Ninth District, there had been a more severe winter this year

than usual, and this was thought to be the factor that had produced

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such slowdown as seemed apparent.

With a high level of work in

prospect, actual construction work had been delayed by an unusually

deep frost line, and it

also appeared that the lake ore shipping

season would be delayed because the ice was very thick and the boats

probably would not be able to get in

the other side of the picture,

about in

or out as early as usual.

On

employment and banking were moving

line with normal seasonal developments and agriculture was

continuing to show strength.

The 12 per cent gain in farm income in

1958 apparently was carrying over into 1959, thus far, and prospects

for farm machinery sales were good for the coming year.

Bank deposits

were up and demand for bank credit was running roughly according to

the usual seasonal pattern.

Mr. Deming said that, like others who had already expressed

themselves,

he had a degree of uncertainty in his mind as to the

proper current course of credit policy.

He felt that open market

operations had been about right, he would like to see them continued

in

about the same way,

and the directive seemed to him adequate.

With respect to the discount rate, the arguments regarding the ques

tion of an increase at this time had been presented pro and con.

balance,

however,

the argument for making a change at this time

because the System might be blocked in the future seemed to him

persuasive.

While he doubted whether the Minneapolis directors

would object strenuously to a recommendation to change the rate

On

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upward, neither did he feel that they would take action at this time

with any great enthusiasm.

Due to personal situations, it

would be

impossible to have a meeting of the board of directors before Friday,

March 13,

the date of the next scheduled meeting.

Mr.

Allen said that notable developments in recent weeks on

the plus side appeared to be the rapid increase in

logs and the continued evidence of strength in

buying.

On the other hand,

steel order back

consumer income and

the rate of new auto deliveries remained

slower than many had anticipated and unemployment continued fairly

substantial.

Seventh District steel companies were operating at

effective capacity,

but analysis indicated no appreciable rise in

steel inventories in

the hands of users in

was some increase in

February.

January.

There probably

Department store sales in

the district

were running spectacularly ahead of last year and were excellent by

any standard; when the record for February was in,

it

might be found

that such sales exceeded the record month, August 1957.

Continuing,

autos in

the first

Mr.

Allen said that deliveries of American-made

40 days of 1959 averaged only a little

16,000 per selling day,

more than

a rate equal to about 5 million on an annual

basis, but Detroit experts were still

estimating that 5-1/2 million

American-made passenger cars would be sold in 1959.

They expected

1959 production to be around 5-3/4 million, with the difference

going into export and inventories.

The peak production quarter would

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be the present one,

automobiles,

at 1,600,000 plus.

a sample of Seventh District member banks indicated a

substantial stretch-out in

January 1957,

maturities in

the past two years.

In

only 8 per cent of all contracts were for periods in

excess of 30 months; in

and in

As to installment terms on

January 1958 the proportion was 22 per cent;

January of this year it

was 47 per cent.

New claims for unemployment compensation for the first

weeks of 1959 in

six

the Seventh District States were from 22 to 42 per cent

lower than last year, compared with a drop of 17 per cent nationally.

Except for Iowa, however,

7 per cent in

Indiana to 50 per cent in

period two years ago.

fiscal and its

these claims were substantially higher (from

Michigan) than in the comparable

The Michigan situation, including both its

unemployment difficulties, would doubtless continue to

receive a good deal of national attention in the months ahead.

1958, unemployment in

During

Michigan averaged 14 per cent of the labor force

and local experts did not expect the situation to improve in 1959.

The situation was the result of a number of factors--decline in

work, labor-saving capital expenditures,

defense

a continuing shift of industry

to other States, and a tendency to use overtime rather than to hire

additional workers.

Loans and investments of Seventh District reporting banks

declined $93 million in

the three weeks ended February 18, with almost

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all of the decline in

Government securities.

The banks showed

stronger business loan demand relative to both 1957 and 1958 than

did reporting banks throughout the nation; most business categories,

led by metals firms, were borrowing more than last year.

Use of the

discount window by country banks had been heavy recently by standards

of recent years, with 63 country banks borrowing in

February.

the first

half of

A large number of the borrowing banks were in the cattle

feeder area.

Mr.

Allen said that he would not suggest any change in the

policy directive and that he would like to see the operations of the

Desk continue about as they had been, with any doubts resolved on the

side of restraint.

Mr.

Irons.

As to the discount rate, he rather agreed with

There should be coordination of the implements of monetary

policy and consideration of that one factor would call for an increase

in

the rate.

As to the magnitude of increase, he would favor 1/2 per

cent or nothing.

As to timing, if the System were completely free

his own preference would be to do nothing for a couple of weeks, or

perhaps as long as four weeks, a view in which he perhaps was in

fluenced largely by his feeling that it would be difficult to get the

Chicago directors to act unless there was unity of action throughout

the System.

Some of the directors, he noted, had in mind the unemploy

ment situation in the Detroit area.

the interval in

However, he did not know whether

April would be long enough to provide assurance that

discount rate action could be taken in

that period, and if

it

was

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necessary to gamble-as it appeared might be the case--he would

guess that business would continue to improve to such an extent

as to suggest acting now on the rate.

Mr. Leedy said that, contrary to the national pattern,

business loans at Tenth District banks had been receding at only

a fraction of the rate of decrease that occurred last year.

All

categories of borrowers except wholesalers had either been borrowing

more or repaying less than in the preceding year.

The reserve posi

tion of the country banks in particular had been tighter recently

due to a greater than seasonal run-off of deposits, especially

interbank deposits.

This had been accompanied by strong demand for

credit at the discount window, and borrowings at the Kansas City

Bank were running about 16 per cent of total member bank borrowings.

Mr. Leedy stated that district retail sales through the latest

report period were 11 per cent ahead of the year-ago level, compared

with a gain nationally of 9 per cent.

Livestock interests, including

cattle, sheep, and hog producers, were being hurt by lower prices,

and inventories in

each category showed a substantially higher increase

from last year than for the country generally.

Another factor, as far

as the economy in the agricultural areas of the district was concerned,

was the recent announcement by the Department of Agriculture of lower

support prices for the spring planting crops.

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Turning to policy matters, Mr. Leedy felt that the time was

here for the System to move on the discount rate.

In fact, as indi

cated by discussion at recent Committee meetings, he had felt that

there should have been an increase earlier, although he was cognizant

of the difficulties that had existed for some time in making an

adjustment.

His own reasoning was based more on the economic situa

tion than on the change in the interest rate structure.

The review

of economic conditions at this meeting seemed to him to underline

the great and developing strength of the economy,

and there was also

the important matter of public psychology that had been asserting

itself in

the stock market.

For these reasons,

as he had indicated

at the last Committee meeting, he would hope that the effect of a

discount rate increase would not be undercut by any effort to make

it appear as solely a technical adjustment.

He felt that the market

was expecting a rate increase; if it were not made in the period

immediately ahead when the road was clear, the System might be mis

leading the market.

The System had been charged before with pulling

the rug from under investors immediately following a Treasury financing,

and such a charge might be made again if the rate were changed in the

rather short period available following the next Treasury financing.

Mr. Leedy suggested that the Account Management continue to

attempt through open market operations to maintain a level of $100

million of net borrowed reserves, with some variation around that

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figure.

He would not endeavor to increase that figure materially

at this point and instead would rely on an adjustment of the discount

rate.

The discount rate change, if

made, should be an increase of

1/2 per cent.

Mr. Leach recalled that at the February 10 meeting of the

Committee he said that although some recent data on the Fifth District

economy were disappointing, it appeared that over-all business activity

was still

moving forward.

Economic reports now becoming available

made it clear that the district economy was continuing to expand.

Seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment showed widespread increases in

January, with the total up 0.6 per cent, while manufacturing man-hours

showed broad and sizable December to January increases, particularly

in

durable goods industries.

the recent wage increases in

After a period of uncertainty following

the textile industry, it

that at least a part of the increase in

now appeared

cost in this highly competitive

industry would be passed along in higher product prices.

A possible

break with the hand-to-mouth policy long adhered to by textile buyers

was indicated by the general interest being shown in

third and fourth

quarter business and by the advance orders placed by some buyers for

those periods.

Cigarette production reached an all-time seasonally

adjusted high in December and probably improved further in January,

while the furniture manufacturing industry reported January and

February as "terrific" months, with high-level profitable operations

under way.

Bituminous coal production was at a better rate than at

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the bottom of the recession but still seemed low in view of current

steel production rates and improved industrial operations.

Utility

demand had been weak enough to cause discussion of price reductions

and efforts at freight concessions as a defense against shifts to oil.

Mr. Leach said he was conscious of the fact that discount rate

action had not kept pace with open market operations, primarily due

to Treasury financing considerations, at least in recent weeks.

There

would now be a breathing period before the next Treasury financing,

and he felt that the System should take advantage of it to increase

the rate to 3 per cent.

seemed probable that it

While the bill

rate was now only 2.81, it

would soon be higher because of prospective

Treasury and other demands for funds.

His chief concern was about the

possibility that a discount rate increase might be interpreted as a

move toward more restraint than was intended.

Although he believed

that a confirmation of present restraint, or even slightly greater

restraint, would be in order, he would not want to signal a substantial

intensification.

He would be happier if action could be taken when

the bill rate was higher than at present, but he would not care to

delay action beyond March 12, by which day more than half of the

Reserve Banks had directors' meetings scheduled.

some of the reservations expressed,

While he shared

he felt that the time was here

when discount rate action should be taken.

Mr.

Mills said he detected a problem in the conduct of System

monetary and credit policy that happily was in an incipient stage at

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present but which, if unattended,

consequences.

could spread out with serious

He then presented the following statement:

In setting objectives and appraising the effects of

monetary and credit policy, the time has come to give

prime consideration to the results of sighting policy

actions at sustaining some predetermined level of nega

tive free reserves over a lengthy period of time.

The

unhappy experience of last year, when $500 millions of

positive free reserves were set as a continuing goal of

policy actions, was reflected in a supercharged growth

in the money supply.

Similar results may occur in

reverse if some level of negative free reserves is

consciously maintained by policy actions for a continuous

period of time, in that the ultimate effect on the money

supply of maintaining any fixed level of reserves seems

to be comparable to the results obtained from compounding

interest. This is true because the commercial banks must

adjust their positions to whatever level of reserves is

set by Federal Reserve System policy actions, and in doing

so under existing conditions of a negative level of free

reserves the consequence is to set up a cumulative force

contracting the outstanding volume of commercial bank

The fact that the volume of discounts at the

credit.

Federal Reserve Banks has not risen in proportion to the

pressure that has been exerted by System policy actions

on the supply of reserves offers proof to this theory by

indicating that the commercial banks restrain their credit

operations in response to System policy rather than expand

their loans and investments, all of which is in accordance

with the dictated principle that Federal Reserve Bank

discounts should be temporary in character.

As long as the Federal Reserve System is intermittently

supplying reserves to sustain commercial bank Tax and Loan

Accounts on the occasion of U. S. Treasury financings, the

contractive pressures of a negative level of free reserves

serve the worthwhile purpose of compelling commercial bank

divestment and redistribution of U. S. Government securities

acquired from Treasury offerings and preventing an unwanted

However, when the time should

expansion of bank credit.

Treasury financing is no longer

to

support

come that reserve

the case, the full effect of

now

is

as

needed as frequently

of maintaining a constant

policy

System

a Federal Reserve

come into play and a

would

reserves

free

level of negative

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deleterious contraction of the money supply would set in.

As this is a process that only takes place over a period

of time, it is not immediately apparent, but by the same

token can be safeguarded against well in advance by

appropriate prophylactic actions.

Applying the theory thus submitted to the present

situation suggests that care be taken to avoid a rigid

posture of maintaining a continuous level of negative free

reserves, both because of the overly contractive influences

inherent in such a policy and because complacent commercial

bank adjustment to an unchanging Federal Reserve System

policy tends to accelerate its effects beyond those in

tended.

Inasmuch as the System's present policy is in

itself persistently contractive, any greater pressure is

unnecessary and might be unwise. In fact, the occasional

appearance of positive free reserves over a weekly reporting

period should not be shunned in that no real relaxation in

pressure would have occurred and a variation from constancy

could be psychologically desirable for the banking and

investment fraternity to observe.

A 3 per cent discount rate as an alignment with a cor

responding structure of market interest rates is to be

desired, especially for its influence toward making the

United States money market more attractive for the invest

ment of foreign funds and thus acting as a check against

the future outflow of gold. However, if the ground swell

of economic developments continues to indicate a lessening

in the demand for commercial bank credit and long-term

capital, together with an ample supply of investment funds,

it may become necessary to fall back from a 3 per cent

discount rate. Furthermore, heed should be paid to the

natural influences tending to relax credit tensions by

whatever moderation of Federal Reserve System policy can

be made without lowering the guards against forces making

for a renewed wage-price spiral or loosening such grip as

it is possible to hold over speculative fervor in the stock

market.

In further comments,

Mr.

Mills suggested bearing in

mind that

the pressure of a constant level of net borrowed reserves evokes a

response that compels the commercial banking system to contract loans

and investments.

If,

in

the process of that contraction, the banks

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were to restore their reserve positions, with some margin of excess

reserves,

and if

reserves,

the commercial banks in

the System then proceeded to extinguish the excess

turn would have to respond by

contracting their outstanding credits.

There would be set in force

a cycle of restrictive influences such as to hold the threat of

boiling down the money supply to a point that would be inconsistent

with the economic growth and resurgence of economic activity that,

within its

limitations, it

was the purpose of the System to foster.

Mr. Robertson said it

seemed to him that the economy was

moving upward very rapidly, especially if

one looked at the whole

picture through the glasses one should have on in

a period of the year when an observer is

January and February,

apt to be misled.

As a matter

of fact, there seemed to be inflationary overtones all through the

Therefore,

picture.

if

the System failed to take advantage of every

opportunity to adopt a more restrictive position, it

might find

itself in the sad position of one who waits and weeps.

the impending Treasury financing operations,

In view of

he felt that the System

should move toward a more restrictive position rather fast.

While

he did not have in mind becoming startlingly more restrictive, he

would like to see net borrowed reserves in the neighborhood of $200

million by the date the decisions on the next Treasury financing

were made.

With respect to the policy directive, Mr.

he saw no need for a change of any kind.

Robertson said that

He realized that a change in

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the discount rate would originate at the respective Reserve Banks.

For his own guidance,

however,

he had set down some of the aspects

of the economic situation that seemed to him to provide a basis for

increasing the rate at this time.

He then read the following state

ment:

The principal aspects of the economic situation which

justify an increase in Federal Reserve Bank discount rates

at this time:

1. General economic activity has recovered to above

the level of the peak reached in 1957, with further expan

sion in process. Although unemployment is still larger than

is desirable, the lag in this area is due to improvements in

productive efficiency, which provide the basis for further

advances in output and in over-all levels of living.

2. The general level of commodity prices has been

stable or rising slightly, notwithstanding declines in prices

of farm products and the increased productivity of industry.

This is because prices of finished industrial products have

continued to advance, reflecting in large part rising wages,

but also to some extent increased profits.

3. Continuation of such price increases might build

up buying resistance on the part of domestic, and particu

larly foreign buyers and endanger the sustainability of

economic growth.

4. Maximum sustainable growth in economic capacity

requires a moderately large volume of investment, financed

The current course of economic events is

out of savings.

favorable for investment and in addition the government will

Adequate savings to cover

continue to be a heavy borrower.

these demands should be encouraged. Hence, the present

situation calls for a relatively high level of interest

rates.

5.

Current conditions are conducive to the undertaking

Advances in stock prices and

of speculative commitments.

in real estate values are indications of these trends. Credit

should not be too readily available for financing such com

mitments, which are threats to economic stability.

6. Resumption of a belief in the inevitability of

inflation encourages borrowing and discourages lending.

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These attitudes may be expected to cause interest rates to

rise. Rising rates should not be resisted by making Federal

Reserve credit available at low rates, but should be per

mitted to occur in order to set up correctives to the in

flationary tendencies.

7.

Expansion of bank credit last year was at a rate

that was more rapid than necessary for sustained economic

growth at a level consistent with reasonably full utilization

of resources. The money supply during the past year in

creased at a rate of 3-1/2 per cent and is adequate for

further growth at turn-over rates that have prevailed in

previous periods of prosperity. In addition a 10 per cent

growth in time deposits has augmented the liquidity of the

economy.

Expansion of bark credit has thus not only helped

to finance the recovery of consumption and investment but

has established the basis for further growth.

8.

Although some slowing down in the rate of bank

credit and monetary expansion has occurred in recent weeks,

the general liquidity of the economy has continued to in

crease as the public has used available funds to acquire

short-term Treasury securities in large amounts.

9. Any further tendencies toward bank credit expansion

should necessitate increased borrowing of reserves by member

banks at discount rates that are kept in touch with market

rates. Additional reserves may be supplied through open

market operations when deemed appropriate for further sustain

able growth, but only after a higher level of member bank

borrowing and higher discount rates have been established.

much further below pre

10. Discount rates are still

vailing open market short-term rates than is usual or

appropriate in a period of economic expansion. They should

be brought more closely into line with the market.

11. If action is not taken now, the timing of pro

spective Treasury financing operations may preclude the

opportunity to take any action for several months.

Mr. Robertson also commented that although there was a period in

April when discount rate action possibly could be taken, the System would

be faced with those problems that arise from taking such action too soon

before or after a Treasury financing operation.

that the dangers involved in

to warrant the risk.

Accordingly,

he felt

failing to act at this time were too great

If the System failed to act, it

might be in

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position where it would regret not having the discount rate at an

appropriate level from which to work in trying to offset the forces

that he thought were developing.

After expressing agreement with the views stated by Mr.

Robertson, Mr. Shepardson said it seemed to him that at this season

of the year one was likely to worry about things not moving quite as

fast as desired and to fail to take account of the slackening inherent

in

the winter season.

The continuing pressure on wages and prices

concerned him a great deal.

While much concern was being expressed

about unemployment, he felt that it

would be corrected more effectively

by price adjustments to stimulate demand than by putting out more

funds in

the hope of creating employment when there was not the con

sumer demand.

of income.

At present, he noted, there was a high consumer level

Thus,

there was money to spend but only as consumers spent

the money for goods and services would there be a real incentive for

the expansion of productive facilities.

felt

With those things in mind, he

that the System should keep up with the procession rather than

wait for historical evidence.

to move toward a little

In his opinion,

it

was highly important

more restrictive level than had prevailed.

Reports recently had indicated that the feel of the market was not

quite as tight as the statistical figures would indicate,

felt night be desirable.

or as he

Hence, along with early action on the

discount rate, he would favor moving toward somewhat greater restraint

through open market operations.

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Mr.

Fulton said that steel continued to make the news from

the Fourth District.

This week the mills were expected to produce

the largest amount of steel ever produced in

one week.

Some mills

were booked solid through June and customers were clamoring for

delivery.

In a recent survey of purchasing agents, almost half of

the respondents said that they were acquiring inventories,

not only

steel but other lines, so as to avoid being embarrassed if a strike

occurred this summer and also because inventories had been low.

On

the other hand, the respondents did not want to guess at operations

for the second half of the year.

In contrast to the steel industry,

the machine-tool industry was rather dismal.

Backlogs were a little

over three months but the amount of tools shipped was quite small.

The automobile industry was now rebuilding to some extent rather than

buying new machine tools, and other industries could follow the same

alternative.

With further reference to district developments, Mr. Fulton

said that department store sales since the first of January were 3

per cent above the year-ago level.

Contract awards were up for

residential and other types of construction.

The bad feature con

tinued to be the unemployment situation, which had not changed

substantially.

Mr.

Manufacturing employment had not increased in total.

Fulton said that although he shared Mr. Hayes'

reserva

tions as to increasing the discount rate, he did not believe that

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any change should be labeled a technical adjustment.

A discount rate

change was an indication of Federal Reserve policy and it

would be,

and possibly should be, considered as overt action on the part of the

System.

He noted that some time ago financial writers were speaking

of the probability of a discount rate increase and the market was

conditioned to it.

Recently,

press articles had indicated that the

rate might not change for some time, no particular reasons being

advanced except that the System had not acted according to earlier

expectations.

He agreed that this was an appropriate time to increase

the discount rate, adding that the System might not for some time

have another opportunity as clear cut as at present.

The fact that

a 3 per cent rate would be slightly above the bill rate seemed to

him only incidental because it appeared almost inevitable that the

rate would rise whether or not the discount rate was increased.

bill

Corporations having funds in

the form of bills were likely to cash

them for the purpose for which they acquired them, which was liquidity,

in

order to pay for inventories being acquired and taxes.

Noting that

the next meeting of the Cleveland directors was scheduled for March 12,

Mr. Fulton expressed the conclusion that within the next week the

discount rate should be increased to 3 per cent.

He also indicated

that he was quite satisfied with the Committee's policy directive as

it

stood.

Mr.

good.

Bopp said that Third District department store sales were

The employment situation remained the big cloud in the district,

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with incomplete data for January showing unemployment at 11 per

cent of the labor force, a somewhat higher rate than a year ago.

The chief banking development had been an exceptionally large loss

of deposits by Philadelphia banks.

As a result, the banks had been

running large and increasing basic reserve deficiencies which, to an

increasing extent, they had been meeting through the Federal funds

market rather than through borrowing at the Reserve Bank.

Mr.

Bopp

said he regretted that short-term market rates had eased from their

mid-January levels.

of 1/2 per cent in

If

they were still

at those levels, an increase

the discount rate could be made as a technical

adjustment, but at present market rates such an increase might be

interpreted as more than a technical adjustment.

He did not feel

this could be justified on purely economic grounds in

the light of

current rates of output relative to capacity in terms of both

facilities and labor force.

This led him to raise whether it

not be desirable under similar circumstances in

might

the future to pay

more attention to short-term rates in open market operations, even

if

this involved concurrent sales of short securities and purchases

of other securities to meet possible problems of reserve availability.

Mr. Bopp expressed the view that the System should act with

unity on the discount rate and said that on this basis he would be

prepared to recommend an increase of 1/2 per cent to the Philadelphia

directors.

He was not sure, however,

whether he could convince them

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of the appropriateness of such an increase in the light of current

market rates.

They were to meet this Thursday, as were the New York

and Chicago directors,

and in view of the Third District unemployment

situation he would not want Philadelphia to be the only Bank to

announce an increased rate.

The policy directive seemed to him

satisfactory.

Mr.

Bryan said that recovery was continuing and, although

there was nothing immediately explosive or ebullient, the situation

had the earmarks of developing into an inflationary boom at some time.

He was at the point of believing that the System should exercise more

restraint but that, because of the factor Mr.

Bopp had mentioned, it

should not move overtly on the discount rate until it

the short-term market.

Since late in

had prepared

January a considerable volume

of net borrowed reserves had been attained, but the monetary situation,

as measured by some criteria, had actually eased.

cent in mid-January,

the three-month bill rate had gone down to the

present levels and only recently had it

tightening.

From around 3 per

begun to show signs of

Even the longer rates had eased.

In the circumstances,

his inclination was to use the forthcoming period to take advantage

of natural forces in

the market that might tighten rates, including

a tightening of the short bill rate above 3 per cent.

Mr.

Bryan went on to say that his views were probably influenced

by the fact that action by the Atlanta Bank to increase its

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rate at this time would probably require great persuasion on his

part.

It

would have to be done subsequent to action by the New

York, Chicago,

and other Banks on the tag-along theory.

On two or

three occasions, he had tried with limited success to explain to the

directors the matter of a technical adjustment of the discount rate

to open market rates.

At the moment,

one of the big problems was to

get into the public mind the relationship between fiscal policy and

the value of Government securities.

A 1/2 per cent discount rate

adjustment now might draw a veil between this relationship and attract

to the System the criticism that in his judgment was bound to come.

In all the circumstances,

he would favor moving quickly during the

forthcoming period to use the open market instrument in such a way as

to increase short-term market rates.

If

that were done, it

might be

possible to use the brief interval in April to change the discount

rate, but if

the System went into that period with a bill rate only

slightly above or at the discount rate of 2-1/2 per cent, it

not make a move.

On the other hand, if

the bill

could

rate were above 3 per

cent at that time he felt that a move on the discount rate could be

made.

Mr. Szymczak said that the lack of rapidity of the recovery,

particularly at this time of year, and the situation with respect to

unemployment and the Treasury bill

rate did not suggest tightening on

the part of the System through open market policy or the discount rate.

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However, with the Treasury coming to market quite soon, and again

in the following month, for a large amount of money, if

the discount rate is

therefore, is

Mr.

to be taken it

action on

should be taken soon.

That,

his position at this time.

Balderston suggested that confusion in people's minds

because of the psychology of the moment did not appear warranted

by the facts.

Personal income was 3 per cent above the peak of

August 1957 and the index of industrial production may have attained

in

the month of February the peak reached in

the summer of 1957.

In

short, at a rather early stage of the recovery the country was already

back to the top of the previous movement.

Using that to give him

perspective, he had the feeling that the System ought to take at

once any overt action it was going to take, and make the action

decisive so that people would know where the System stood.

He would

be inclined to delay use of open market operations for further re

straint until the banking situation made the need apparent.

Corpora

tions were now very liquid and this obviously had an impact on the

bill

However,

rate at the moment.

just as soon as those corporations

used their liquidity for the payment of tax bills and accumulation of

inventory they would return to the commercial banks for credit and

the demand would be heavy.

Then the member banks would be coming to

the Federal Reserve as the lender of last resort.

yet unforeseen, he felt

borrowed reserve figure.

At some time, as

there would be a need to increase the net

What he was doing in his own mind was to

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attempt to separate the Federal Reserve action that would make the

front pages and which he felt should be taken soon, namely, an in

crease in the discount rate in

the amount of 1/2 per cent, from the

more delicate and less obvious actions through the open market which

could be taken just as appropriately at a later time.

Chairman Martin commented that when it

came to critical

periods the problem was always one of struggling for logic and it

was not possible to meet all of the requirements that all would like

to have.

Mr. Irons,

game, which in

for example, had spoken about the rules of the

fact were forced on the System, first

by a pegged

Government securities market and now by a large Treasury deficit.

The System's problem would be much easier if it

were not for such

factors.

It

was at a time like this, the Chairman said, that the

System must face up to the complexities of its

organization.

While

there might be some question whether the System was organized properly,

it

was necessary to work with what existed and not with what some

would like the situation to be.

directors'

As a general rule, Reserve Bank

meetings were spread over a period of weeks,

and there

would not be a conjunction unless the Board set the meeting dates

for every Federal Reserve Bank.

From time to time in the past, the

System had relied on the New York Bank or some other Reserve Bank

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to act as a leader to pull the thing together, but at present the

situation was difficult because there would be different judgments,

as in fact there were around the table today.

In his own judgment,

now called for an increase in

Chairman Martin said, the economic factors

the discount rate.

tions were sufficiently clear in

Easter sales expecta

marketing circles today to warrant

enthusiasm regarding the business picture.

He would not attempt to

evaluate the steel situation in the light of the strike possibility,

but the Wall Street Journal today reported operations at the highest

point in

this in

the history of the country in terms of tonnage output,

spite of auto sales that were disappointing.

and

The point of

concern to him, the Chairman continued, was the very real problem

with respect to the sale of Government securities.

The System had

not acted decisively or clearly enough to be a real asset to the

Government securities market during the last six or seven months.

In his opinion, it would have been preferable to increase the

discount rate before the last Treasury financing instead of having

newspapers talking about whether the System would or would not act

on the rate at an appropriate time.

calling for judgment,

Now there was again a period

but he questioned whether there would actually

be a period as long as three weeks in April within which the System

would be free to act.

In the circumstances,

the point Mr. Leedy had made

about "pulling the rug" became a very difficult problem.

and he believed also at succeeding meetings,

A year ago,

he had pointed out that

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it was easier to go down than up; the System tended to pull itself

together on the down side more quickly than on the up side.

As Mr.

Bryan had brought out, the critical problem at the moment was to

relate fiscal policy and the financing of the Government debt.

How

ever, the System, which earlier had deferred raising the discount

rate principally because of the fact that the Treasury was in the

market, now had before it the question of not doing what it would

have done previously except for the Treasury financing.

Chairman Martin continued by expressing the view that the

System either must face up to its responsibilities or take the position

that monetary policy could not work in an environment like the present

and that it

was necessary to look for other controls to meet the situa

tion effectively.

He doubted the advisability of eliminating monetary

policy as a part of the aggregate and saying that under certain condi

tions it

could not work.

the market or what Mr.

What Mr.

Bryan said with respect to preparing

Bopp said regarding the short-term rate was

another way of approaching the matter.

To a large extent, however,

the Committee must depend on the Desk for administration of prescribed

policy, since obviously the Committee as a whole could not supervise

the activities of the Desk on a day-to-day basis.

the point made by Mr.

ills,

With reference to

he noted that the nature of the System

organization was such as to produce a tendency toward inflexibility.

To put it

another way,

there was a tendency to fall into the status

quo pattern rather automatically.

The job was to try to keep out of

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that pattern and to maintain flexibility to the extent possible,

for the System must not get frozen into a pattern and stay there.

On the discount side, for example,

it

would be possible to go down

as well as up if circumstances should warrant.

Returning to the Treasury's problem, Chairman Martin again

commented that a matter of judgment was involved.

However, he

questioned whether there would be any practical way of taking overt

action through April or May, or possibly even June.

There ought to

be some reasonable period of even keel before the Treasury went to

market in

order that all

of the misinterpretations coming from a

discount rate action at this time might be gotten out of the way and

the market could assess the action.

Therefore, the earlier the action

was taken the better it would be, particularly since business straws

in the wind were likely to compound the problem for the Treasury.

the discount rate were increased on March 5,

If

effective March 6, there

would be a period of two weeks for market adjustments.

If there were

another period of uncertainty as to whether the Federal Reserve would

act on the rate, with some commentators saying that it should act and

some saying that the Federal Reserve was being dictated to by the

Treasury, it seemed to him that the System would have abdicated any

role except passive acceptance of the course of the market.

In

essence, what he was saying was that in his judgment the organization

of the System was on trial in periods like the present.

It was a

question whether in the limited periods available for action a

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situation like this could be explained to Reserve Bank directors in

twelve different cities, none of whom had all of the information

available to the Open Market Committee.

The problem was one of pulling

the System together so that the decision would be clear cut, whether it

be right or wrong, for one could not fiddle with markets such as now

existed.

In his view the Government securities market had been badly

damaged by the fiddling of the last few months, and that was a matter

for which the Federal Reserve had some responsibility.

Where the

matter would end up he did not know, but personally he would like to

see those Banks whose directors were to meet on Thursday of this week

take action on the discount rate and dispose of the matter, for he

felt that this would be better for the System, even realizing that

many misinterpretations would be placed on the action.

He would be

glad if Mr. Hayes were to express his (Chairman Martin's) personal

judgment to the New York Board of Directors for he would like them

to know what he thought about the situation.

Certainly, if a move

were made on the discount rate and the business situation were to

collapse, the System would be blamed, but that was the risk that

must be run.

If the System failed to move when it had knowledge of

the difficult Treasury financing ahead, it might be in a position of

not having taken the one opportunity presented to it to adjust the

discount rate closer to a realistic alignment with the market.

In

this connection, it should be noted that there was not just one bill

rate, and he felt it was correct to say that the aggregate of short

term rates had been close to or above 3 per cent for a long time.

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Mr. Thomas commented that throughout 1956 the bill rate was

consistently below the discount rate.

A bill

rate 1/8 or 1/4

per

cent below the discount rate with net borrowed reserves around $100

million was more normal than otherwise.

If

the discount rate were

moved to 3 per cent, there might not be any rise in the longer bill

rate.

Chairman Martin then said, with respect to the problem of

technical adjustment,

that certainly the more logical situation was

for the discount rate to be slightly above the going rate.

that the System would want to abdicate its

in

the absence of such a relationship.

He doubted

responsibility for policy

He felt reasonably clear in

his own mind that the System should not wait; rather, he thought that

the System should express to the world clearly where it

stood.

Chairman Martin said that he was not particularly concerned

at this juncture with respect to open market operations.

would not want to be inflexible,

While he

neither would he care to see any

overt easing in the level of reserves.

Instead, he would prefer to

have doubts resolved on the side of restraint.

At the same time, if

a discount rate adjustment were made he would not want actively to

permit the conviction to grow that the change meant a greater degree

of restraint on reserves.

The Chairman then summarized the meeting by stating that he

understood all to be in

agreement that the policy directive should be

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continued without change.

The majority would favor an increase in

the discount rate to 3 per cent at the earliest possible moment.

The consensus seemed to be to maintain about the same level of re

straint as at present, with any doubts on the part of the Account

Management resolved on the side of restraint. He then asked whether

there were any comments on this summary.

Mr. Hayes commented that he doubted whether recent articles

in the New York and Washington papers about System policy being in

a state of suspended animation had exerted much effect on the trend

of market rates, for the main factor had been heavy buying by nonbank

investors.

He also had some reservations about the idea that simply

because the System thought a discount rate of 3 per cent was right a

couple of months ago, was ready to move, but was inhibited by the

Treasury financing,

same way now.

that meant per se that the System should feel the

The fact was that credit demands had been more modest

than any foresaw at the beginning of the year; at least, that was the

way he interpreted the economic comments today.

The Committee was

always entitled to re-evaluate the situation at every meeting, and

various factors might cause a change of mind.

Further, he had a little

feeling about the apparent disposition on the part of some members of

the Committee to anticipate business developments.

While there

appeared to be a general line of reasoning that recovery was going to

speed up and that there was going to be a sharp price rise, practically

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no evidence of this had appeared as yet.

The question was whether

the situation justified a really overt move,

that it

did.

take chances,

The System was always in

and he did not think

the position of having to

and he was inclined to feel that the chances involved

in waiting for the 18 or 19 day period in April were no greater than

those involved in

the possibility of something going wrong by moving

to 3 per cent right now.

He liked the idea of the System moving

together but not the idea of the New York Bank moving ahead of most

of the other Banks.

Chairman Martin commented that he had meant to bring out that

the New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago Banks were the only ones with

directors'

meetings scheduled for this week.

To this, Mr.

Hayes

responded that the public might not realize the situation; if

a move

were made, he would prefer to have most or all of the Banks move at

one time.

Chairman Martin replied that the System was not organized in

that manner.

At times in

the past it

bank for leadership, but in

had relied on the money market

the last few years the money market bank

often had not been the leader.

He also wanted to make it

clear that

he had not intended to imply that anyone was committed to move now

simply because some had felt that the System should have moved earlier.

His own judgment was that the System should move now,

for he happened

to think that the situation called for such action, even though there

would be some difficulties from the public relations standpoint.

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There had been such difficulties when the San Francisco Bank first

moved to 2 per cent last August and there were some difficulties when

the discount rate was raised to 2-1/2 per cent.

However,

subsequent

events had vindicated both increases, and in his judgment they would

also vindicate a move to 3 per cent at this time.

Mr. Hayes commented that the New York directors would meet

on the 5th of March and on the 12th, and that the latter date would

have the advantage of permitting a closer coordination of timing with

the other Reserve Banks.

Chairman Martin responded that it

advantage.

would also have some dis

The date would be closer to the date when the Treasury

would next come to market, and discount rate action then would cause

that much more ferment.

Earlier,

there had been discussion about the

possibility of moving around the 19th or 26th of February,

action had been deferred in order to provide a little

spell because the Treasury had experienced in its

regarded publicly as a failure.

but the

more breathing

refunding what was

From the standpoint of both the

Treasury and the market, he felt that the earlier discount rate action

was taken--if it

Mr.

were going to be taken--the better it

would be.

Hayes remarked that he was thinking of whether the New York

directors would be willing to act ahead of the other Banks.

He felt

quite sure they would be reluctant.

There followed some discussion concerning the meeting dates

of the respective boards of directors,

during which, at the suggestion

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of Mr.

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Allen, it

Messrs.

was understood that the statements made by

Thomas and Young this morning would be reproduced and

copies made available to the members of the Committee and other

Reserve Bank Presidents today.

With reference to comments that had been made about the

recent stability of the price index, Mr.

Shepardson commented that

although the aggregate index might be showing little

change, it

was

hard to ignore the news of increases in prices and wages appearing

in the papers almost daily.

These increases,

he noted, would

ultimately show up in the index.

The comment was made in this regard that nevertheless the

index had been on a plateau for some time.

Chairman Martin then inquired whether there were any other

comments,

and none appearing, he suggested that the directive to

the New York Bank be renewed in its

present form.

He also commented

that there were certain to be rumors crystallizing on Thursday and

that caution far beyond the usual degree should be observed,

particularly as to calling any special meetings of directors.

Thereupon, upon notion duly made

and seconded, the Committee voted

unanimously to direct the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York until other

wise directed by the Committee:

To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges

(1)

(including replacement of maturing securities, and

allowing maturities to run off without replacement)

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for the System Open Market Account in the open market or,

in the case of maturing securities, by direct exchange

with the Treasury, as may be necessary in the light of

current and prospective economic conditions and the

general credit situation of the country, with a view (a)

to relating the supply of funds in the market to the needs

of commerce and business, (b) to fostering conditions in

the money market conducive to sustainable economic growth

and stability, and (c) to the practical administration of

the Account; provided that the aggregate amount of securi

ties held in the System Account (including commitments for

the purchase or sale of securities for the Account) at the

close of this date, other than special short-term certificates

of indebtedness purchased from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury, shall not be increased or

decreased by more than $1 billion;

To purchase direct from the Treasury for the account

(2)

of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with discretion, in

cases where it seems desirable, to issue participations to one

or more Federal Reserve Banks) such amounts of special short

term certificates of indebtedness as may be necessary from

time to time for the temporary accommodation of the Treasury;

provided that the total amount of such certificates held at

any one time by the Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed

in the aggregate $500 million.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday, March 24,

At the request of the Chairman, Mr.

1959, at 10:00 a.m.

Young made a statement with

regard to the status of the joint Treasury-Federal Reserve study of the

Government securities market.

key roles by the Treasury,

After reviewing the personnel assigned

the Board, and the Federal Reserve Bank of

New York, he said thus far those engaged in the study had been absorbed

principally in planning questionnaires,

the program of consultations,

and getting the working papers in process.

He next discussed the

evolution of the questionnaires and noted that in

their present form

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more work than had first

been contemplated would be involved

for the Reserve Banks with respect to collection, tabulation,

and compilation procedures.

Planning and instruction documents

would be finished as soon as possible with a view to avoiding

any greater imposition on the time of Bank personnel than neces

sary.

As to the consultations,

the general public relations

document had been drafted and was now under consideration.

In

addition, Treasury and System staff assignments, which he outlined,

had been completed for the respective working papers and for other

assignments.

Mr.

Young concluded with the comment that in all of

the staff discussions up to this point a very fine spirit of

cooperation had been exhibited.

Chairman Martin commented that apparently good progress was

being made and that the Treasury was enthusiastic about the work

being done.

The meeting then recessed and reconvened at 1:45 p.m. with

the same attendance on the part of members and alternate members of

the Committee and other Reserve Bank Presidents as at the morning

session.

From the staff of Committee,

and Rouse were present.

Messrs.

Riefler, Sherman,

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The meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee reconvened

at 1:45

p.m. with the following in

attendance:

Mr. Martin, Chairman

Mr. Hayes, Vice Chairman

Mr. Allen

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Balderston

Deming

Erickson

Mills

Mr. Robertson

Mr. Shepardson

Mr. Szymczak 1/

Mr. Bryan, Alternate for Mr. Johns

Messrs. Bopp, Fulton, and Leedy, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market

Committee

Messrs. Leach, Irons, and Mangels, Presidents

of the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond,

Dallas, and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Riefler, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market

Account

Chairman Martin said that the purpose of this session was to

discuss the problem of the number of persons attending meetings of the

Federal Open Market Committee and having access to its

records.

It

came about as a follow-up to the discussion that had taken place after

the regular session of the Committee's meeting on January 27,

1959, at

which time he had reported on a recent investigation into alleged leaks

of information regarding certain decisions of the Board of Governors,

1/

Mr.

Szymczak withdrew during the discussion.

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the investigation having been made by representatives of the Senate

Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, of which Senator John L.

McClellan is

January 27,

Chairman.

The Chairman went on to say that since

some individual members of the Committee or Reserve Bank

Presidents had spoken to him on this subject and one or two sugges

tions for a change in procedure had been made to him, but he had

no idea of the general thinking of the group concerning the present

procedure.

It

had occurred to him that, if

the present procedure

were to be changed, a possible means of dealing with the question

would be to follow the present procedure at each meeting up through

the presentation of the economic and credit reviews by Messrs. Young

and Thomas, after which there would be a session limited to the

members of the Committee and their alternates, the Presidents not

currently members of the Committee, the Secretary and an Assistant

Secretary,

and the Manager of the System Account.

In that limited

session, the regional reviews and comments on policy and the discus

sion leading to a policy decision would take place.

Continuing, Chairman Martin said that the Committee desired

to get as much in the way of useful comment and independent judgment

as was possible in reaching its decisions, but at the same time it

wished to safeguard its procedure against a charge that there were

so many people present at Committee meetings or who had access to

its

decisions that it

constituted an unsound arrangement from the

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standpoint of possible leaks of information.

present list

A review of the

of those having access to minutes of the Committee

might be used by a critic to convey the impression that too many

persons had access to Committee records.

The Chairman went on to say that Mr. Fulton had made a

suggestion to the effect that the Reserve Bank economists might

meet separately prior to the meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee.

In his (Chairman Martin's) opinion, this would not be

desirable for reasons that he stated.

He then suggested that each

of those present express his views on the general problem, and he

called first

upon Mr.

Bryan.

Mr. Bryan said that to his mind the problem was an extra

ordinarily important one.

It was necessary to define the terms of

the problem before the Committee could arrive at a correct solution.

He then made a statement substantially as follows:

1. The problem needs to be approached as a value

judgment, appraising risks against gains.

2.

A fundamental in the situation, as I see it, is

The temper is such that public

the temper of the times.

men and institutions are not innocent until proved guilty

but are guilty until they can prove themselves innocent.

The attack on public men and institutions by scandal

mongering and allegations of scandal everywhere masquerades

as patriotism. The degradation of the public taste is now

so great that such masquerades are generally accepted at

face value.

We can expect

We can expect no letup in the attacks.

no letup because it is to the political or monetary self

On the political side, attacks

interests of our attackers.

on public institutions such as the Federal Reserve System

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are, generally speaking, politically cost free and are thus

indulged in whenever they promise even the slightest possible

advantage.

This situation partly proceeds from a fundamental

and irremediable defect in our constitutional arrangements,

which relieve a member of the legislative branch of responsi

bility for utterances on the floor and, in practice, relieve

him of responsibility off the floor of the legislative

assembly.

On the monetary side, there is quite evidently a

profit to be gained by the press in scandal-mongering and the

allegation of scandal. As one distinguished publisher has

said to me simply, "It sells papers." Then he went on to say

that the press could not be made responsible in this country

because it has succeeded in cutting down the libel laws and

the interpretation of libel to such an extent that, practically

speaking, they are unavailable to any public man or institution.

Much more could be said on this subject. But the point is

sufficiently made that the System can expect mounting and in

creasingly savage attack not merely upon its policies, wherein

a host of thoughtful men will arise to defend us, but upon

allegations of wrongdoing and scandal, wherein we can rely

only upon ourselves and our ability to prove our innocence.

The point that we must have firmly in mind and keep

3.

hold of is that these scandal-mongering attacks will not be

related to facts or to our actual innocence.

They will be

related, instead, to the political or monetary self-interest

We must, in my view, have clearly in mind

of the attackers.

the fact that our task is not only that of being innocent.

Unless we

Our task is also that of proving our innocence.

approach our current problem with a completely cynical under

standing of this point, then in my judgment we are going to

arrive at erroneous conclusions.

4.

The next point to be realized is that under our

present organization and procedure the number of people

involved in the knowledge of decisions is so great that

the task of proving our innocence is impossible--note that

I am distinguishing between the knowledge of decisions and

the decision-making process.

In the light of these circumstances the problem, I

5.

think, is to preserve the participation of many informed minds

in the decision-making process but to reorganize our procedure

in order to:

make certain that we are clearly within the

(a)

statute; and,

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(b)

(c)

reduce dramatically the number of people who

have knowledge of actual current decisions

at the time they are made; and,

handle the materials of the Committee under

such security regulations, or such noncurrent

status, as materially to reduce the possibility

of unauthorized use or to make such knowledge

and possible use of little

or no significance.

The advantage of (a) would be that, by staying as strictly

within the statute as possible, we would materially reduce the

profitability of merely whimsical attack. If we stay clearly

within the statute, or its necessary and unavoidable implica

tions, we rest on the solid foundation of the legislative

branch's own considered decision; and we give ourselves the

enormous advantage that is gained by anyone in an argument

when he can cite on his side the fact that, "The law says..."

By staying clearly within the statute, we practically assure

ourselves that debate on a change of the legislative branch's

previously considered decision will be on a much higher level

of policy than will be true if we are accused of taking ad

vantage of the law's silences. On the other hand, if we take

advantage of the law's silences, without clear necessity, then

we immensely increase the difficulties of our defense, either

by ourselves or by those who are our admirers and advocates.

For such reasons, which could be greatly extended and il

lustrated, I believe it extraordinarily important that we

give a strict interpretation to the statute and the clear

implications of the statute, and that our use of the statute's

silence, when it exists, rests upon paramount necessity.

The advantage of (b) is that it would materially improve

our chances of proving our innocence as against charges of

leaks and scandal--which is the prime and overriding requisite

The advantage of (c) is the same.

in my judgment.

The handling of the operating procedures of the Open Mar

ket function, and the minutes and other materials that it

necessarily produces, with a rigid sense of responsibility,

would be generally regarded, both by our critics inside and

outside the legislative branch, as a necessary extension of

our more narrowly defined responsibilities under the statute.

6. In specific terms, accordingly, my approach to the

organization of the Open Market Committee would be as follows

As for the Presidents, I think that only those who

(a)

are members and alternate members should be present at

This would be either entirely within the

the meetings.

statute, or so completely within the clear necessity of

the statute (for orderly continuity of the Committee's

work at the annual change-over of membership) as to be

essentially beyond criticism.

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In my opinion, the presence of the nonmember, non

alternate presidents cannot be defended on the basis of

the statute. I do not believe that their presence can be

defended on the basis of necessity for orderly continuity

of the Committee's work. I do not believe that their

presence can be defended on the ground of mustering the

total intellectual resources of the System in the process

of decision-making; for I think it clear that several other

devices could be utilized that would quite as effectively

muster for the use of the Committee the opinions of the

nonmember, nonalternate presidents.

Indeed, I believe that

a considerable case could be made out for the idea that it

would be wise to have some of the presidents standing a little

aside and a little

independent of the group discussions out of

which decisions are currently taken.

There is, to be sure, an advantage to group discussion

and group evaluation of differences in points of view and

emphasis.

On the other hand, there is some advantage in

having some of the Presidents uninfluenced by the group discus

sions and group evaluations, arriving at their evaluations by

more independent procedures; and I would deem this advantage

considerable for two reasons.

First, the Presidents by their

almost constant preoccupations with current monetary affairs,

are among the country's better critics and commentators on

current policy, and they are practically speaking the easiest

and most properly accessible to the FOMC on current problems,

so that a measure of independence in the judgments of some of

Second, the Governors, the

them could well be of great value.

President members and alternate members of the Committee, to

gether with some of the officers of the Committee would still

be a group large enough to represent a diversity in points of

view, oral emphasis, and a balanced evolution of a group

Moreover, in this connection, the absent Presidents

judgment.

would not be deprived of participation in the decision-making

process by means other than their presence at meetings: they

would only be deprived of immediate knowledge of taken or

impending decisions.

(b) As for staff, it is certainly a necessity of the

statute that the work of the FOMC must involve a mech

anism for recording its deliberations and decisions and

for professional economic, and legal advice.

It is not necessary, nor in my view does it contribute any

thing to the decision-making process, which is the important

value that we must preserve, for there to be extensive staff

knowledge of actual decisions currently arrived at. Accordingly,

as to staff, my approach would be as follows:

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(1)

The economists of the President members and

alternate members of the FOMC can very well have their

responsibility for briefing their Presidents, as now,

on the economic developments in their several Districts

and nationally, and of considering with their Presidents

the various policy factors entering into decisions.

There could be no objection, I feel, to their being

present at the economic and financial presentations made

to the FOMC.

I believe, however, that they should with

draw once general discussion starts and decisions are

either taken or impending decisions forecast.

(2)

There can be, as I see it, no objection to the

Board's staff participating in the same way--and perhaps

there should be a few exceptions made, but very few, for

individuals whose presence at the entire meeting is

deemed important.

Certainly anyone remaining at the

entire meeting, I believe, if not a member or alternate

member of the Committee, should be an officer of the

Committee.

(c)

As for the production of minutes of meetings in the

offices of the Board of Governors, it seems to me that the

procedure ought to be under rigid, written controls with at

least an annual procedural checkup.

(1) As for the Banks that are not represented on the

Open Market Committee, I believe the minutes should not

Just how

go to them until the minutes are noncurrent.

The

much of a time lag should be involved I do not know.

important thing is that there should be enough of a lag

that decisions have already resulted in action, either

revealed or foreshadowed in published statistics or in

discount rate action by the Banks that are members or

alternate members of the FOMC.

(2) As for the forwarding of minutes to the Banks that

are represented as members or alternate members on the FOMC,

I think that could be done promptly as at present, but I

believe that access to the minutes should be rigidly

confined to the President and his associate economist

and released from a security file to such associate

economist only upon a charge-in and charge-out system

initialed by and under control of the President personally.

They could, of course, under regulation, be released to

others when they are noncurrent.

I have not considered in detail the daily wires or

(3)

However, as is suffi

reports of the Account Management.

ciently indicated, I would put them under rigid control,

making errors, if errors are to be made, on the side of

rigid rather than lax procedure.

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The advantages of (c), (1), (2), and (3) are to be found

in reducing radically the number of persons currently informed

of decisions at the time they are taken. There is, however, an

incidental advantage of considerable importance.

I believe there is a mine of information to be had from

analyzing the System's weekly statement, loan statistics, money

rate trends, and so on. I believe that if some of the System's

personnel, economists and Presidents alike, were working these

mines a little

more assiduously we would find the effort vastly

rewarding; and, if the easy out of simply being "in the know"

were removed from time to time as the Committee's membership

changed, some of us might be tempted to do a little

more pick

and-shovel work in an effort to find out precisely what the

System was doing.

I guess I should speak personally on this point, but I

think a little more pick-and-shovel work would strengthen my

own intellectual muscles a good deal, for on a good many

occasions I have found that when I got to reviewing statistics

I had quite a different impression of System policy than I

received from the 'round-the-table discussions of what we were

doing or thought we were doing.

7.

The foregoing discussion simply indicates an approach

and omits many items of detail. There is one major point on

which I will not evoke much sympathy and will not argue at length.

I believe that the mechanism for fixing the discount rate

should be altered and the power to fix the discount rates for

the several Banks should be placed either in the Board of

The present

Governors or in the Federal Open Market Committee.

mechanism was wholly logical when it was established; but in my

view it is anachronistic, does not correspond either to the

economic facts or the mechanistic facts of rate determination,

is frequently embarrassing, and is destined sooner or later to

lead us into grave difficulties.

For better or worse, we now have a national money market

and a national monetary policy. The discount rate should be

operated in harmony with our other instruments, and the men

having responsibility for the other instruments should not be

able to avoid the assumption of responsibility for the discount

rate.

The important thing in connection with the local Boards

of Directors of the Federal Reserve Banks is in keeping an

able body of men who, by their questions, assist in making the

presidents and executive officers of those banks look alive

and, by their training and experience, bring to the banks

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points of view and information of vast use for policy deci

sions. It is not important, and provocative of great mis

understandings, to leave the actual legal responsibility of

fixing the discount rate in the hands of the local Boards of

Directors.

8.

The point of view adopted in these notes leads to

Draconian measures.

Such measures are herein suggested not

because of any natural liking for them but because I believe

them to be of paramount necessity in view of the temper of

the times and indicated, in any event, by a logical and

necessary interpretation of our statutory responsibilities.

Mr.

Mr.

Bryan.

Bopp said that his approach differed somewhat from that of

First, he felt

it

important that everyone having access to

open market information be a person whose integrity was beyond ques

tion.

There was also the matter of judgment, and if there was ever

any doubt about an individual's judgment, regardless of the level of

his position or his responsibility, there would be no option but dis

missal.

Second, a sense of participation in the open market process

was important in

terms of morale.

Third, in terms of training, access

to pertinent information was of value and this would include the

opportunity to observe and listen to discussions at these meetings.

Therefore,

Mr.

Bopp said, he would be inclined to retain the present

procedure even if

there were difficulty in defending it.

He felt

that leaks or threats of leaks would persist regardless of the number

of persons involved in

Mr.

the meetings or having access to the records.

Fulton said that he had been disturbed by the number of

persons that had been present at meetings during the decision-making

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process.

He would agree that a number of Mr. Bryan's points would

be helpful if

adopted.

He would be quite inclined toward the sug

gestion that members of the staff who did not participate in the

decision-making discussion withdraw from the meetings prior to that

portion.

Mr.

Shepardson said that he, too, was inclined to agree with

much of the procedure suggested by Mr.

Bryan.

It

was not clear to

him just how much the training of persons who did not participate in

the policy discussion was furthered by having them present throughout

the meetings, and he was inclined to agree that it

might be better for

them to withdraw after the economic review was presented.

Mr. Shepardson

said that he would not agree, however, with the suggestion that the

Reserve Bank Presidents who were not currently members or alternates

of the Committee should withdraw prior to the decision-making discus

sion.

As to the availability of the minutes, Mr. Shepardson said that

his feeling would be that after a limited period-perhaps a few weeks

after a meeting--access to the minutes and other records could be

defended for those persons working on open market matters.

In general,

his feeling was that the Committee should take every possible pre

caution to eliminate or at least to minimize opportunities for

criticism such as had arisen on some occasions in the past.

Mr. Robertson said that he thought Mr.

very good case.

Bryan had stated a

All he needed to do was to state where he did not

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agree.

side.

He did not think this an "open and shut" matter on either

It

was a matter of weighing the means by which the Committee

could accomplish the job before it

criticism regarding leaks.

to justify to itself its

with the least amount of justifiable

This meant that the Committee must be able

procedures for letting others than members

of the Committee have access to information.

With respect to the

Presidents who were currently not members of the Committee, he

completely disagreed with Mr. Bryan's suggestion for having them

withdraw from the meeting prior to the policy decision process.

Any

advantages from such a procedure would be greatly outweighted by the

advantage of having them present for the purpose of maintaining con

tinuing familiarity with open market information from month to month

and year to year.

With respect to the staff, Mr. Robertson felt that

all members should be treated exactly alike regardless of whether they

were from the Board's staff or the Banks,

What he meant was that if

staff members from the Banks were to withdraw after the economic

review, the same procedure should apply to those who were staff

members from the Board.

It

could be argued that there were advantages

to be gained from having the staff withdraw, Mr. Robertson felt, in

that they might have a more independent view than if

during the policy discussions.

they were present

His conclusion was that it

would be

preferable for each Reserve Bank to be represented at every meeting,

and if

the President of a Bank were unable to be present, then one

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other member of the Bank's staff (an alternate member of the Committee,

a First Vice President, an economist,

or some other person) should be

there so that that Bank would have a first-hand contact with what went

on at the meetings.

With respect to access to minutes and reports,

said he was not bothered.

Mr. Robertson

The more that persons working on open market

problems were familiar with this material, the better the advice avail

able to the Committee and the Presidents was likely to be.

The minutes

did not usually reach the members of the Committee for a week or ten

days after a meeting,

offered little

and it

seemed to him that their availability

danger of leaks,

He would continue to make available

the minutes of the meetings to the members of the staff at the Reserve

Banks and at the Board,

on the list

and he noted that every one of the persons now

for such access had been vouched for by a member of the

Board or by a Reserve Bank President.

Mr. Robertson said he did not

think the System was ready at this time to adopt the suggestion that

Mr.

Bryan had made regarding a change in responsibility for the dis

count rate and he would not now favor it.

Mr. Robertson later added the comment that he also thought

there should be an understanding that no member of the Committee and

none of the Presidents who attended meetings of the Committee should

discuss any open market decisions with the directors of a Reserve

Bank.

This might be the case at present, but in his view the board

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of directors of a Reserve Bank should not have access to any of

the open market information that was not made available to the

Committee's staff.

Mr. Mills said he did not know how the Committee was going

to resolve all the different shades of opinion coming out of this

discussion.

His own view would be to accept the procedure suggested

by Mr. Bryan, with several modifications.

The first of these would

be that all of the Reserve Bank Presidents should attend the open

market meetings.

He felt there would be no good reason for them

to bring with them their economists, if

the economists had access to

the proceedings of the meeting at a later date and were available for

consultation with the Presidents at that time.

However,

excluding the

Bank economists from the meetings should not, in his opinion, be

extended to excluding the officers of the Committee from the Board's

staff who were elected at the regular meeting.

That would eliminate

the election of the associate economists as officers of the Committee

and would limit the officers to the Secretary and Assistant

Secretaries,

the Economic Adviser, the Director of Research, and the

General Counsel and Assistant General Counsel.

Mr.

Mills said that

he felt rather like Mr. Robertson regarding the minutes, that they

represented water over the dam,

and when they were distributed to

the Presidents and members of the Committee there would be no

objection to opening them to others for their educational value and

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interim guidance between meetings,

it

being understood that this

would be done with discretion and by limiting access rather rigidly.

As far as the discount facility was concerned, Mr.

be quite different from that of Mr.

Bryan.

Mills' view would

He had a strong feeling

that this was the heart of the Federal Reserve System, and the

merit of its

tion.

decentralized organization rested on director participa

The essence of that participation was deliberating in the

discount rate decisions.

While this produced rough spots, his belief

was that the advantages of preserving the present system immeasurably

outweighed the disadvantages.

Mr.

Leach said that he thought all

of the Presidents should be

invited to attend the open market meetings.

not been in

He felt that, if

attendance at meetings in recent years,

at a considerable disadvantage in

discussions,

he had

he would have been

not having had the benefit of these

especially on some occasions when he went to his directors

with certain recommendations.

He did not feel too strongly about the

present arrangements for the staff to attend, but he did feel that

each President needed to have some person in

his Bank with whom he

could freely discuss open market matters and to whom the minutes would

be available.

It

seemed reasonable to him that each President should

bring one economist with him to the meetings, including that part

concerning policy discussions.

The Committee could operate without

having the economists present, but there was an advantage to a

Reserve Bank President to be able to talk with his economist about

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all aspects of the meetings, and it

certainly kept the economist on

his toes and interested in what was going on.

For his part, Mr. Leach

said he would undertake to defend that arrangement, which he believed

to have much advantage, although he would agree that the Committee

could operate on a more restricted basis.

As to the minutes, he was

inclined to feel that some time limit might be placed on making them

available.

For example, it

seemed to him that after three months

there was very little danger in making the minutes available to the

members of the staff now having access to them.

Mr.

Leedy said that he felt strongly that the Reserve Bank

Presidents should attend the meetings of the Open Market Committee

even when they were not members.

handicapped if

A President would be tremendously

he did not have that privilege.

As to material dis

tributed, he would divide that into the minutes and other data.

would be in

He

favor of limiting access to the minutes to the man who

accompanied the President to the open market meetings,

and he could

see no need to make them available currently to others, although

there would be no objection to making them more widely available

after a time.

As to the materials,

other than minutes, Mr. Leedy

said he could see no reason to limit their distribution more than

was now done.

As to attendance at these meetings, the Committee

seemed to be talking about seven persons,

since five Associate

Economists had been selected from the Banks as Committee officers.

If

the economists were to come to the meetings,

Mr. Leedy said

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he felt they should be privileged to attend the meetings throughout.

He would doubt the value of their making the trip to Washington merely

to be present at the preliminaries.

If

attendance were limited to

one economist from each Reserve Bank (and Mr. Leedy thought there

should be one man who attended regularly rather than to have rotation),

and if

the Reserve Bank President had the responsibility to see that

there was no violation by the man who accompanied him of the rules

with respect to dissemination of information, there would as a

practical matter be no exposure to the kind of thing the Committee

was attempting to guard against.

Like Mr. Leach, he felt

it

of

value to have a man on his staff with whom any aspect of the open

market operation might be discussed.

in

the same position as Mr.

Bopp.

He thus came out pretty much

He would eliminate making the

minutes available to the rather long list

of persons who now appeared

to have access to them and would make them available to one man at

each Reserve Bank who was selected to work with the President, and

if

the President wished to bring that man to the meeting he should

be permitted to attend the meeting throughout.

Mr. Allen said that Mr.

his feeling.

Mills had expressed substantially

He personally doubted whether the associate economists

should attend the meetings.

He also felt that there was not much

value in having an economist come to Washington only for the economic

review.

While he enjoyed discussing these problems with the men on

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his staff, he believed their opinions were of more value if

they

were given on the basis of their own analysis, rather than after

listening to the reports at the meeting.

In sum, Mr. Allen said

that he did not think the economists should be at the meetings, and

he definitely felt that all of the Reserve Bank Presidents should

attend.

At the Chicago Bank the list

of persons having access to

the minutes was small, and he would favor letting them see the

minutes when they were distributed about a week after the meetings.

Mr. Deming said that he came out close to the position

indicated by Mr.

Mills.

He started from a somewhat different basis

than that indicated by Mr.

Bryan.

The charges of leaks seemed to

cluster more around the discount rate than open market operations,

Mr. Deming noted, adding that some 300 persons had some knowledge

of a discount rate matter and an almost impossible task was faced

in

trying to cut down that number in view of the structural organiza

tion of the System.

Thus, when it

was suggested that a half dozen

persons be eliminated from the forty odd persons who attended an

open market meeting,

there was not much to talk about.

Mr. Deming

said he could not say there was much training value from the stand

point of the economic staff of the Bank in either reading the minutes

of an open market meeting, or sitting in

agreed there was no strong point in

just for the economic presentation.

on the deliberations.

He

bringing a man into Washington

However,

he felt that it

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of value for the person advising the President to have current access

to all the material that was available.

For this, he would limit

minutes access to the President of the Reserve Bank and one economic

adviser.

Also, for the report of open market operations, he would

limit access almost that closely.

For miscellaneous materials such

as the economic and credit review, he could see no particular reason

to place any limitation on distribution within the System.

attendance at meetings,

Mr. Deming said he would be entirely agreeable

to the suggestion made by Mr.

Mills on the grounds that it

the Committee in about as reasonable a position as it

to be in.

As for

would put

could expect

This, together with reducing the number of persons having

access to the minutes and report of open market operations, would cut

to better public relations size.

the list

by Mr.

In response to a question

Hayes, Mr. Deming added the comment that there seemed to him

to be no value in having an economist come to Washington for the

meetings,

except as he could get training by sitting in the meetings

and thus be of greater help to the President in

the future.

He

particularly felt that attendance by the economist only for the

economic presentation would not justify the trips to Washington.

Thus, while he wanted the man advising the President to have access

to all

the material under discussion, Mr. Deming would confine

attendance at meetings so as to exclude all of the associate economists.

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Mr. Mangels said that he agreed

described by Mr.

Deming.

with

about the position

He could see no advantage in having a

man come to Washington just to hear the economic and credit review.

As to distributed material, he noted that the wire summarizing the

11:00 a.m. daily telephone call should be treated with as great a

degree of confidence as other open market materials.

However, he

would wish to have the minutes and any of the other open market

materials made available not only to his economist, but also to the

First Vice President of his Bank.

Mr. Irons said that, as for attendance of his economist at

the Committee meetings, he thought it

was probably a matter of

indifference either to the economist or to himself.

that if

He felt strongly

the economist were not going to participate in the entire

open market meeting,

the expenditure for bringing him to Washington

just to hear the economic review

ould not be justified.

Mr. Irons

said that his view on this was partly dependent on whether he would

have the privilege of discussing with his economist when he returned

from an open market meeting any of the matters that had been taken

up.

He did not think the economist should be excluded from access

to information if he was to be expected to serve as an associate

economist.

Quite as important as the minutes was the question of

how freely the President might discuss the matters taken up at

open market meetings with persons with whom he originally consulted

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A President should not operate in

hoped to have an effective working group.

a vacuum if

the System

There was always this ques

tion of how best to use people and how to be secretive and still

full return out of the work.

get

Mr. Irons said he would be inclined to

agree that, on a strict legalistic basis, perhaps Mr. Bryan had the

answer.

However,

even if

that were adopted, he did not think it

would stop the charge of leaks of information upon occasion.

felt it

He

extremely desirable for all of the Presidents of the Reserve

Banks to be continually exposed to the discussions that went on in

open market meetings.

The question boiled down to trustworthiness,

Mr. Irons said, and the System would have to defend that trustworthiness

when called upon to do so.

He could see no basic difference between a

President serving as a member of the Committee in 1959 and not being a

member in 1960.

It

might be noted, Mr. Irons said, that virtually all

of those involved in open market matters were persons who had been

cleared for top secret material on emergency defense operations.

On

balance, he was inclined to agree with what he understood to be Mr.

Bopp's view, with the possible exception that it

was a matter of

indifference whether the economists attended the open market meetings

or not.

Mr.

Erickson said that he felt all

continue to attend the meetings.

If

of the Presidents should

attendance by the economists at

the meetings were to be limited to the presentation of the economic

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reviews, he questioned whether this would have enough value to

justify their coming.

If that were done, he would have no objection

to any of the Board staff members sitting in on the meetings even if

the Bank economists did not attend, provided they withdrew at the

time the discussion of policy started.

As for the material sent out

and discussion after the meetings, Mr. Erickson thought this question

should be left largely to the Presidents.

The list of those at the

Boston Bank having access to open market material was one of the

smallest in the System and he had contemplated adding one or two

names to it.

Mr. Rouse said that his general thinking had been much along

the lines expressed by Mr.

Bopp.

There was an educational value to

the present procedure, and since each person designated to attend the

meetings or see material was selected by a Reserve President or a

member of the Board of Governors, he could be considered to be

thoroughly trustworthy.

The point Mr. Irons had mentioned that

virtually all such persons had been fully cleared for security pur

poses seemed to be a good additional test that could be cited.

So

far as attendance at meetings by the associate economists was con

cerned, Mr. Rouse said that if

their presence was limited to the

economic review prior to the go-around at which the Presidents and

Board members reported and commented on conditions and policy matters,

it

might not be worthwhile to have them come at all.

On the other

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so far as the Account Manager was concerned, he felt it

almost essential for him to have the nuances and shades of the

full discussion in carrying out the intent of the Committee.

Mr. Hayes said he found himself in

strong sympathy with

the views expressed by Messrs. Bopp, Irons, and others,

that he was inclined to go a little

farther in

except

that direction.

The problem of leaks was going to be with the Committee always,

and it seemed to him that there was grave danger of exaggerating

it

and of handicapping the Committee in accomplishing its

objective.

The matter of trust was of great importance in

Committee's functioning.

main

the

All of those selected must, of course,

be people who could be trusted, and if

ever

any reason for doubting

a person developed those responsible would take Draconian measures.

Up to that point, Mr.

Hayes felt that each President should have

considerable leeway to consult with persons who might assist him

in this function.

This implied that such persons should be given the

opportunity to see what was going on in the open market meetings.

He felt strongly that all of the Presidents should be at the Com

mittee's meetings, not only because it was vital to them but because

this gave the Committee a better feel of what was going on over the

country and thus helped it in arriving at its decisions.

On the

matter of associate economists, Mr. Hayes said that personally he

felt

there was nothing wrong with the present procedure.

He would

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have thought that any President of a Reserve Bank would want to have

an economist present at the meetings who would get the flavor of what

went on.

In his own experience, it

had been definitely useful to have

an opportunity to discuss matters with a person who had been present

and who knew the whole process of the Committee meetings.

Even though

the economist might later have access to papers including the minutes

of the meetings,

Mr. Hayes doubted that this would serve the same

useful purpose as actual attendance.

In addition, Mr. Hayes said that

he did not believe the Committee should treat the associate economists

from the Reserve Banks any differently from the Board's staff econo

mists.

If

the Board staff members were present, he felt that the

staff members working closely with the Presidents also should be

With respect to the minutes, Mr.

present.

Hayes said that he had

much sympathy with the view expressed by Mr.

Robertson that after a

period of time there was not much danger in making them available to

selected additional persons,

and for this reason he would not be

inclined to change the present procedure.

In short, for the sake of

having a well-trained group of Presidents and senior staff members,

he felt

that there must be reliance on the integrity of the persons

concerned.

In his judgment, the Committee could successfully meet

the problem under discussion without a change in

the present general

procedure.

Mr.

Balderston said that he did not think the Committee had

met the problem in

the past.

There had been an allegation by a

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member of the staff of Senator McClellan's Permanent Subcommittee

on Investigations that in his observation the procedure to guard

against leaks was not sufficiently tight.

His position might seem

reasonable to the uninformed in the light of the distribution of

open market records to a list of 86 persons.

Now that the gist of

this comment had been relayed to the public by two newspaper

columnists, the whole System has been given unfavorable publicity.

Mr. Balderston favored a plan not far different from that suggested

by Mr. Bryan.

He would restrict the actual decision making and

immediate knowledge of those decisions of the Committee on a "need

to know" basis.

He realized that this might seem at first glance to

interfere with the desire to get an adequately trained group through

out the System and also with the desire to have unity within the

System.

The first of these objections did not seem to him valid.

As

to the second, the open market meetings should serve two purposes;

first, for the determination of open market policy, and second as a

System assembly devoted to exchanging views as to district and

national economic affairs and what should be done about them.

ever,

this purpose had been marred somewhat in that it

How

had become

the custom in the go-around to make statements as to recommended

policy along with the reports of economic conditions.

If the

Committee wanted to take rather extreme measures while it was free

to do this on its own, his suggestion would be to have all of the

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Presidents attend the meetings while the regional accounts were being

given.

Also,

it

was of great value to be able to discuss at these

meetings all of the instruments of monetary policy including reserve

requirements and discount rates, as well as open market operations.

The procedure that had developed in this respect represented a great

improvement during the past few years and this accomplishment should

not be lost.

When it

came to the actual making of decisions to guide

the Desk for the ensuing three weeks,

Mr. Balderston felt that if

the

Committee wished to have the cleanest answer to any criticism, it

could have the voting members of the Committee go into executive

session at the end of the other discussion.

What he was suggesting

was that the Committee conduct itself just as it

had been doing up

until the last 15 minutes of the meeting and then to have the twelve

individuals who by statute constituted the Committee meet to decide

upon their directive to the Desk.

When this decision had been made

and summed up by the Chairman, it

would be known only to 14 persons-

the 12 voting members plus the Manager of the System Account and the

Secretary of the Committee.

Then, if

there were any leak, only 14

persons could have known what the action had been.

Mr. Balderston

said he also thought something should be done about the large volume

of material that was distributed in

work.

connection with the Committee's

It was true that this material did not offer much danger a

week or so after it

at the time it

had been distributed, but if

was issued, perhaps it

it

were dangerous

should be signed for and placed

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under lock and key as part of the procedure for distributing it.

Mr. Balderston said that he was suggesting that the Committee should

look to its

procedures so that it

would not appear to be as lax as

the comment of the investigator for Senator McClellan's Committee

indicated the Board of Governors appeared to be.

Mr.

Hayes said that he had some difficulty in visualizing

the nature of the executive session of the voting members of the

Committee that Mr.

Balderston had suggested, which he gathered would

be confined to determining the wording of the directive and authoriz

ing its

issuance.

Mr.

Balderston responded that his thought was that any

President or Committee member should stop short in his comments

during the go-around before expressing what he thought the level of

net borrowed reserves should be, that he should leave the final part

of his thinking on the policy decision until the executive session.

Chairman Martin remarked that this would not be an easy thing

to do.

He then invited the other staff members present to express

their views.

Mr. Riefler said that he felt strongly that real benefit

resulted from having each Reserve Bank President attend the open

market meetings,

even though some were not voting members, and from

having each one accompanied by a person with whom he could discuss

any of the matters that came up.

What bothered him was that during

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the past few years the procedure

cept.

The list

had

gone somewhat beyond that con

of those attending the meetings,

and particularly of

those having access to minutes and other Open Market data, had been

expanded considerably,

and he felt that it

a careful review of the list

would be desirable to make

of persons authorized to have access to

Open Market data.

Mr. Sherman noted that since the 30's the Committee had moved

from an extremely limited attendance at meetings and availability of

minutes to the present much extended basis.

with which all

were familiar.

This had been for reasons

Perhaps the swing had gone farther than

was needed to accomplish the purpose, and some cutting back might be

appropriate.

With respect to access to Open Market records,

looked larger than it

was in

practice,

the list

since at least some persons

were listed only because of rare need to see some specific record.

As for the suggestion that circulation and control of the minutes

might be more rigid, Mr. Sherman commented that the existing procedure

could well be reviewed but that a close control of the minutes had

always been followed in

their preparation and distribution.

Chairman Martin then commented that the discussion of this

topic had taken considerable time but that he felt this essential

in view of the question that had been raised.

Whatever the majority

decided was necessary should govern the procedure to be followed in

the future.

Personally, he still

operating procedure was wrong.

was not convinced that the present

Mr.

Bryan had put the case for a more

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restrictive procedure as strongly as it

could be put but his

(Chairman Martin's) judgment was that the methods the Committee

had been pursuing were the right ones.

purposes,

This was true for training

for development of information useful to the Committee,

and for other reasons.

He felt that, in general, the Reserve Bank

Presidents were pursuing the right course under the existing system.

It

had been something of a shock to him to find that these procedures

were being criticized.

However,

he had noted that some of those who

attended the meetings and sat on the sidelines took notes of the

discussion.

In his view, this was a mistake.

He felt that only the

person who prepared the official record should make notes during the

meetings.

As to attendance and procedures in

said that it

seemed to him that, from the individual Reserve Bank

President's point of view, it

would be disastrous to go back to the

limitations that had existed in

first

general, Chairman Martin

the past.

He recalled that when he

came to the Board he found that there were at least one or two

Bank Presidents who did not discuss the subject matter of open market

meetings with anyone in

their Banks.

His reaction had been that

those men could not get any real feeling or understanding of the

problems or make a contribution unless they had someone with whom

they could frequently discuss these things on a fully informed basis.

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As to the Reserve Bank directors, all

of us got exasperated at

times with the unwieldy nature of the System.

At times, he wondered

whether the System might be holding out a fraud to the public on

whether there was adequate participation by the directors of Federal

Reserve Banks in System matters.

There was the problem of how to

get the System to pull together, and each individual President had a

problem in knowing what to say to his directors.

The Chairman cited

a comment by one individual director that had come to him from the

outside that indicated a complete lack of understanding of the dis

count mechanism.

He realized that the Presidents had a very difficult

job, but his own view was that if

the Banks were going to get the staff

to participate and to develop, they would go much farther by having

some of them in

at these discussions.

Recognizing that Mr. Bryan had

stated the case for restriction as clearly as was possible, even if

all his suggestions were adopted the charges of leaks would not be

eliminated and their adoption was not going to enable the System to

prove its

to the list

guiltlessness or that it

had not violated its trust.

of persons having access to Open Market records,

Martin said that he thought it

As

Chairman

would be desirable to review it

in

terms of putting on to each President the responsibility for con

sidering carefully the person or persons with whom he wished to

consult on these matters.

such a list,

if

responsibility.

Perhaps it

would not be necessary to keep

the individual Reserve Bank Presidents assumed this

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Mr.

Bryan said that as he had listened to the thoughtful

discussion of the problem, he had been impressed by the emphasis

on the advantages from many points of view of the present organiza

tion and procedure.

He shared an appreciation of those advantages

and wished to make clear his hope that they could be preserved to

the greatest extent possible.

At the same time, he would re

emphasize what he believed to be the overriding importance of other

considerations at present.

The discussion had correctly emphasized

the trustworthy character of personnel at all

Federal Open Market Committee matters.

levels dealing with

He shared that emphasis on

trustworthiness but could not agree that it

eliminated a requirement

for far more rigid procedures than the Committee now had.

It

could

be said that the personnel of the System was of extraordinarily high

caliber, but it

in

still

had elaborate audit and examination procedures

order to prove that nothing had gone amiss.

This was done not

merely to protect the Banks but to protect the personnel.

If

the

Banks were at such pains to prove their accounting records were cor

rect and that the cash was all

more important, he asked, in

accounted for, then wasn't it

the System's responsibility for monetary

policy, to go as far as possible in

was well taken.

Mr.

matters could be left

even

proving that no charge of scandal

Bryan also said that he also doubted that these

to the discretion of the Reserve Bank Presidents

as had been suggested during this discussion.

The Federal Open Market

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Committee was a statutory body and he believed it

the better part of

wisdom for the Committee as such to take the responsibility for its

procedure and security regulations.

Mr. Robertson said that he did not think the discussion of this

problem could be pulled together at this session.

view had been expressed, and in

his opinion it

Various points of

was now necessary to

have these views put together by the Secretary and to have the whole

subject reviewed again after all

of those present had had an opportunity

to study the minutes.

Chairman Martin stated that this was his view, and Mr. Bryan

suggested that it might be desirable in the interim to have a small

committee appointed to study the matter and present a recommendation

to the full Committee.

Chairman Martin stated that before doing that he felt it

would

be preferable to have the record of this discussion prepared and dis

tributed, and after all of the members of the Committee and all of the

Reserve Bank Presidents had had an opportunity to review it

and con

sider the subject further, call another meeting for the purpose of

carrying forward the discussion.

There was general agreement with this suggestion.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1959, March 2). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19590303
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19590303,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1959},
  month = {Mar},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19590303},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}