fomc minutes · September 21, 1959

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in

Washington on Tuesday, September 22, 1959, at 10:00 a.m.

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin,Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Allen

Balderston

Deming

Erickson

Johns

King

Mills

Mr. Robertson

Mr. Shepardson

Mr. Szymczak

Messrs. Bopp, Fulton, Bryan, and Leedy, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Leach, Irons, and Mangels, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond, Dallas,

and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Riefler, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Jones, Parsons, Roosa, and Young,

Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Koch, Associate Adviser, Division of Research

and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Keir, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Mr.

Scanlon, First Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of Chicago

Messrs. Ellis, Hostetler, Daane, and Tow, Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of

Boston, Cleveland, Richmond, and Kansas

City, respectively

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Mr. Einzig, Assistant Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of San Francisco

Mr. Anderson, Economic Adviser, Federal Reserve

Bank of Philadelphia

Mr. Coldwell, Director of Research, Federal

Reserve Bank of Dallas

Mr. Holmes, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Brandt, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of Atlanta

Mr. Knipe, Consultant to the Chairman, Board

of Governors

Chairman Martin stated that, unless there was objection, he

would like to have Mr. James L. Knipe,

attend the meeting.

Consultant to the Chairman,

There being no objection, Mr. Knipe entered the

room.

Upon motion duly made and seconded

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of

the meetings of the Federal Open Market

Committee held on August 18 and September

1, 1959, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report of open market operations covering the period

September 1 through September 16, 1959, and a supplementary report

covering the period September 17 through September 21, 1959.

Copies of

both reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

Mr. Rouse supplemented the written reports with a statement as

follows:

The most significant development of the past three weeks

has been the deterioration in the atmosphere of the Government

securities market. This reached a climax early last week. At

that time rates on Treasury bills reached new high levels, with

the longest outstanding bills bid at above 5 per cent. Also at

that time it was reported to us that some dealers were reluctant

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to make good markets in bills and were operating on an order

basis. This was an extreme, and there has been some improve

ment in the market since that time.

Indications are, however,

that the improvement is mainly technical since there has been

no real change in the basic factors that underlie the wide

spread pessimism that characterizes the market.

The market's pessimism grows out of the interrelation of

two basic factors. The first is the heavy current and

prospective demands for credit by the private sector and by

the Treasury, and the second is the fact that the Treasury's

needs will have to be met through resort to short-term

financing. Credit demands of the private sector of the

economy have already been extraordinarily large, and we are

just entering the period of a seasonal buildup of such demands.

There is a widespread belief that the economy shows sufficient

underlying strength to surge ahead rapidly at the conclusion

of the steel strike and that this will bring with it further

unusual demands for credit by the private sector. The Treasury's

needs for funds will be substantial over the next few months,

beginning with about $3.5-4.0 billion in October. Furthermore,

and quite apart from these immediate needs, there is a growing

concern over the fiscal situation generally, since indications

point to continuing, if reduced, budgetary deficits. The

midyear budget review should be released shortly in view of

the adjournment of Congress a week ago. Against the back

ground of these heavy current and prospective demands for

credit, the failure of Congress to come to grips with the

interest rate ceiling on marketable Treasury bonds has had a

First, as I noted earlier, the failure

pervasive influence.

of Congress to act means that the Treasury will have to resort

over the next few months to the short end of the market to

meet its needs. Secondly, that failure has raised fundamental

questions as to whether this country is really capable of

keeping its fiscal affairs in order.

While the market anticipates large and growing demands

for credit stemming from the demand influences I just mentioned,

it also anticipates that the System will not abdicate its

responsibilities and freely provide the funds to meet all these

It is expected that restraints over the creation of

demands.

credit will continue.

These fundamental influences of demand and supply for

credit have led to a general conviction that interest rates,

which are already at the highest point in a quarter of a

century, will rise still further. This conviction was

heightened in the past three weeks by more immediate influences

which played an important role in the extreme pessimism that

emerged in the market early last week. First, the large

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demands for liquidity around the mid-September tax and

dividend dates caused an excessive supply of Treasury

bills to appear in the market as corporate demand

virtually dried up and as repurchase agreements which

corporations had made with dealers matured; corporations

also engaged in some outright liquidation of bills.

Furthermore, bank reserve positions came under increased

strain as banks accommodated the heavy mid-September

demand for loans, and hence some banks also sought to

liquidate Treasury bills.

The second of the more immediate

influences on the market was the focusing of attention on

the large prospective demand for credit in the immediate

future.

The announcement of the Treasury's October cash

financing is only ten days away.

Furthermore, a heavy

calendar of Government agency financing will be superimposed

on the Treasury's operation. This agency financing is

highlighted by the developing plans of the Federal Home Loan

Banks to borrow a total of $300 million new money between

now and early November and the difficulties facing the

Federal Land Bank in the refinancing of its October 20

maturity in view of the latter's

legal limitation of a 5 per

cent rate exclusive of commission. Another influence on the

market during the past three weeks was the appearance of a

press article in a national publication which called

attention to the dangers inherent in the current fiscal

situation and which went so far as to suggest that a "money

Furthermore, the publication in the

panic" might develop.

New York Bank's Monthly Review of an article dealing with

the discount window led some to believe that access to the

window might be sharply curtailed although locally it was

recognized as a description of the way the window has

The publication of the

operated over a number of years.

of these articles, and the interpretation placed on

first

the second, are symptomatic of the state of mind of the

That

market as it approaches the Treasury cash financing.

state of mind is one of underlying pessimism that, given

the strong current and prospective demand for credit, and

its limited availability, interest rates--including the

discount rate--will increase. It is in such an underlying

atmosphere that the Treasury must set terms on its financing

next week. It looks as though the Treasury will need help

from the underwriters in this financing, i.e., from the

large banks from coast to coast.

At a recent meeting of the Committee there was discussion

of the prospective investment by the International Monetary

Fund of an additional $300 million of Treasury bills. We have

been working, in conjunction with Mr. Thomas and Mr. Riefler,

with the IMF on an investment program for this $300 million.

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A part of that amount, $100 million, became available last

week, and we have thus far bought $22 million bills, and

have tendered for $8 million, in working toward the program

adopted by the Fund. We have discretion as to the timing

of these purchases and as to the issues purchased under the

program.

This statement may appear pessimistic since the market

has been somewhat better in the last few days, but the

bidding in yesterday's auction showed a considerable lack

of interest, even though the average rate at which bills

were allocated had fallen from the previous week.

Thereupon, upon motion duly

made and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions during the

period September 1 through September 21,

1959, were approved, ratified, and

confirmed.

Members of the staff of the Board of Governors entered the

room at this point for the purpose of presenting a review of the

economic and credit situation in the form of a chart show.

Copies

of the script, Economic Situation After the Steel Strike, and of the

accompanying charts were sent to the members of the Committee follow

ing the meeting, and copies also have been placed in

the Committee

files.

Mr.

Young introduced the economic review with the following

statement:

From the spring of 1958 through June this year

recovery in economic activity was rapid and uninter

In 14 months, industrial production rose

rupted.

to a point about 7 per cent above the

cent

23 per

After June, production

prerecession level of mid-1957.

by the steel and

affected

directly

not

industries

in

copper strikes rose somewhat, but the total index

declined from 155 in June to 119 in August.

For all goods and services the rise in output was

$53 billion or 12 per cent, almost all in physical

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volume.

This increase reflected chiefly a major advance

in consumer spending, which had declined little

during

the recession; an upsurge in residential building; a

dramatic shift from rapid inventory liquidation to rapid

accumulation; and an increase in Government expenditures.

Business capital outlays, which declined until the third

quarter of 1958, have risen since then. In the current

quarter, despite the strike, GNP may be above the second

quarter annual rate of about $4 8 5 billion.

With production rising, profit margins have widened

and profits--which had dropped sharply--have risen well

above prerecession levels.

Reflecting market views as to

prospects for earnings and capital values, prices of

common stocks by this summer had advanced two-fifths and

were one-fourth higher than in mid-1957.

In recent weeks

they have declined and at yesterday's close were 8 per

cent below their high of early August.

Stock prices rose much more than dividends and stock

yields declined sharply.

Meanwhile; yields on bonds rose

to levels far above those on stocks and the spread for

some time now has been unusual.

Expansion in business, consumer, and Government demands

for goods and services has been facilitated by a rapid rise

in credit outstanding.

Federal requirements for funds have

been high this year partly as a result of the delayed impact

of the recession in reducing revenues.

In capital markets,

corporate flotations have been at a more moderate pace this

year.

Abroad, activity this year has expanded considerably

and in some countries such as Germany and the Netherlands

demand for labor is beginning to press on the available

In Japan industrial output is up even more than

supply.

in the United States.

Gold and foreign exchange reserves

of many countries have been greatly strengthened.

Foreign

demands for U. S. goods were declining until last spring

but are now on the increase, while shipments to the United

States are no longer rapidly rising.

effects

As is usual in a recovery period, the initial

of increased demands have been largely to increase production

rather than to raise prices. Sensitive materials have

advanced about 10 per cent, as they did from early 1954 to

mid-1955. Industrial commodities have shown an increase

somewhat larger than that before mid-1955, but perhaps not

as large as might have been expected in view of the greater

increase in industrial production this time.

As in the period from early 1954 to mid-1955, farm

prices have declined considerably during the recovery period

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and, as a result of offsetting changes, the index of all

wholesale prices has shown little

change.

Whether market pressures, domestic and international,

will bring about a marked rise in industrial prices such

as developed after mid-1955, is a central current question.

Closely related questions are whether, after activity is

resumed at steel mills, total output will be appreciably

higher than before the strike, and if so, how closely it

will approach the limits of our expanded capacity.

Events of the past year and a half suggest that activity

may rise considerably in the period ahead but do not provide

assurance that substantially higher levels can be reached

without strong upward pressures on prices.

One encouraging

feature of the current situation is evidence of some free

productive capacity at a time of record final demand and of

rapid inventory rebuilding.

Another encouraging feature is the prospect for

balancing of the Federal budget in fiscal 1960, after a

deficit of $13 billion in fiscal 1959, a fact not to be

lost sight of because of present Treasury financing

difficulties--although it may be regretted that a surplus

is not being achieved.

Money rates now are higher than at any time in 1953 or

Net borrowed

1957 and considerably higher than in mid-1955.

reserves are at the level reached at the end of 1955.

Corporations and banks are in less liquid positions than at

this stage in some earlier cycles--although corporations

have substantial holdings of Government securities.

One prospect after steel production is resumed is a

generation of demands from many sources in a short period,

carrying activity to a very high level in relation to

capacity and putting industrial prices under strong upward

However, some features of the current situation

pressure.

suggest that anti-inflationary monetary policy is beginning

to temper business and investor exuberance in forward

In this more realistic environ

expectation and planning.

ment, strike settlement might be followed by more orderly

expansion of economic activity from present high levels

without inflationary price advances.

The presentation was concluded by Mr.

Thomas with substantially

the following remarks:

Uneasiness about the state of money markets, plus the

hard facts of heavy Treasury financing in the period

immediately ahead and peak demands for private credit, are

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among the important elements that need to be considered in

appraising the general business and financial situation.

The postwar years, like the 1920's, have been years of

strong upward push in demand and production. Real gross

product has grown at a substantial rate, with only three

important interruptions--in 1949, 1954, and 1958--and these

turned out to be mostly inventory adjustments.

Demand in

fact has been so strong that the basic problem of monetary

policy has been to hold credit within bounds in order to

discourage speculative spurts in demand and prices and

thereby promote sustainable growth in output. It is to be

hoped that through such restraints the speculative excesses

of the late 1920's and the credit collapse of the 1930's

may be avoided.

A continuing problem in promoting orderly growth and

maintaining stable prices has been the development of

cumulative forces during various phases of the business

cycle. In fact, in contrast to the 1920's, price increases

during boom periods--immediately after the war, during the

Korean period, and even in the period of high activity from

1955 to 1957--have been great enough, along with failure of

prices to decline during recession, to lend support to the

view that creeping inflation is inevitable-and perhaps even

essential for continued growth. Acceptance of this view by

many people in business, academic circles, and Government,

lies at the heart of many of the difficult problems that

face the System at this time.

A basic issue at this stage of the cycle is whether

further substantial expansion can be achieved in the near

future without distortions in prices, production, and incomes

that would prevent sustained growth over a considerable

period and also place new difficulties in the way of inter

national balance-of-payments adjustment. Increasing demands

after mid-1955 resulted in relatively small increases in

output but marked advances in prices; the rise in gross

product in current dollars was much greater than in real

terms. Distortions such as undue inventory accumulation,

too hasty capital expansion in some areas, too rapid a rise

in debt burden, and consumer resistance to price increases

undermined the prevailing high activity and led to the

recession of 1957-58. During these years the United States

also failed to strengthen its international competitive

position. Can that type of development be avoided this

time?

As has already been indicated, the existence of somewhat

larger industrial capacity in relation to current production

and the agricultural supply situation provide reason to think

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that price advances as rapid as those that occurred after

mid-1955 can be avoided.

Moreover, the strengthened

competitive position of other industrial countries and

their restraints on inflationary developments may also

help to hold down price rises in this country. But if

actions are taken to stimulate demand and to raise costs

and prices, and if expectations of inflationary developments

continue, efforts to prevent rising prices and to achieve

this goal of sustained growth may be thwarted.

Expansion in economic activity and price increases in

recent years have been accompanied by persistently heavy

demands for credit and by growth in total debt, in the bank

credit component, in the money supply, and in other liquid

assets. When private credit demands have slackened in some

areas, governmental borrowing has generally increased.

Demands for mortgage credit have been persistently strong

with variations in the amounts extended determined by other

competing demands.

Savings have increased along with the

growth of income, with significant variations among the

various sectors--consumers, business, and Government.

A significant feature of credit developments has been

the proportion of savings that has gone into consumer

indebtedness, including mortgages, and into governmental

debt, relative to investment for expansion of productive

An essential for the promotion of sustainable

capacity.

growth with stable prices is the maintenance of an

appropriate balance of consumption, savings, and investment

of the type that contributes to expansion in output. This

is a combined problem of fiscal, debt management, and

monetary policies and of private actions with respect to

costs, prices, and long-term commitments.

Money supply, which is the responsibility of the Federal

The growth has

Reserve, has expanded during recent years.

generally not been as great as that in GNP at constant prices,

and GNP in current prices has risen at an even faster pace.

Turnover of money, therefore, has increased, reflecting in

part the utilization of money substitutes, some of which were

accumulated in the past and some currently.

Debt management and Government actions to insure or

guarantee values of various forms of indebtedness and to

enhance their liquidity have contributed to the growth of over

The sharp increase

all liquidity other than cash balances.

and the virtual

outstanding

obligations

in short-term Treasury

in view of

particularly

them,

decreasing

of

impossibility

must be

that

factor

a

is

ceilings,

rate

existing interest

the money

of

level

appropriate

the

considered in determining

likewise

is

It

credit.

bank

of

supply and the availability

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a factor that may be expected to produce money market

pressures whenever heavy cash needs emerge-as illustrated

by last week's developments.

The idea that in such a situation the Federal Reserve

System should do something--beyond meeting seasonal needsto ease the financial strain or to prevent further tightening,

may be supported by arguing that the situation in financial

markets is becoming disorderly-an argument which at some

point might have some validity--or on the ground that public

and private demands for credit should not be restricted

because its restriction will limit growth and economic

activity.

However, in view of the present levels of

activity and the prospect for higher levels when output of

steel is resumed, and in view of upward pressures on costs

and prices, the need for maintaining restraints seems

persuasive.

Another question of great importance to the System at

the present time is how much positive value there is in

large increases in interest rates as a restraining factor in

themselves, apart from the basic weapon for limiting growth

of credit availability in the face of increasing demands for

funds.

Clearly, high interest rates help towards balance

of-payments equilibrium, and clearly the healthy functioning

of the whole interest rate structure is essential for the

market's allocation of supply to meet competing demands.

Under the circumstances likely to prevail in the months

ahead, increasing the availability of credit for the purpose

of keeping interest rates from rising can provide no

assurance of either stable money markets or the allocation

of resources in a manner that will maintain sustainable

growth.

Supplementing this broad review of economic forces,

comments may be added about certain specific aspects of the

(1) Partial figures for city banks for

immediate situation:

September 16 indicate that in the past three weeks bank

credit supplied may not have been quite as large as usual

during the September tax period; (2) demand deposit expansion

at city banks also appears to have been somewhat smaller

than usual, following a seasonally-adjusted decline in

August, and correspondingly required reserves have increased

less than projected three weeks ago; and (3) projections of

reserve needs for the future indicate that to maintain

about the recent degree of restraint and cover seasonal

demands, about $100 million of additional reserves should

be supplied in each of the next three weeks. Additional

amounts will be needed in November and December.

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financial review, Chairman Martin next called upon Mr.

Hayes, who

commented as follows:

The lull

in business activity reflecting mainly

the slowly spreading effects of the steel strike has

developed about as expected. For August we have seen

a fairly sharp drop in industrial production, a small

increase in seasonally adjusted unemployment, and a

slight decline in retail sales. The Second District

has been affected somewhat less than the nation as a

whole.

One of the strongest factors in the outlook is the

upward trend of private expenditures on plant and

equipment.

Earlier estimates have been raised, with a

9 per cent gain now expected for the full year 1959

over 1958, and a considerably higher annual rate in the

last quarter.

Residential housing volume, while perhaps

limited somewhat by the cost and availability of mort

gage money, has held up better than had been expected.

As is so often the case, the price situation is

not clear cut.

The index of wholesale prices was down

in August, especially in the area of farm products and

processed foods, whereas the consumer price index showed

a disturbing upward tendency through July, the latest

month for which it has been reported.

Recent wage

settlements and price developments in several industries

Stock prices have dropped

justify some uneasiness.

about 7 or 8 per cent in the past six weeks--the decline

being attributed to the steel strike, rising interest

rates, and some drying up of interest on the part of

large investors at current advanced prices.

It seems well to recognize that a real showdown is

in process in the current struggle in the steel industry.

There is therefore a possibility at least that a rather

lengthy period of strike-induced stagnation is in sight.

On the other hand, I think the probabilities are strongly

in favor of a rapid recovery as soon as the strike ends,

perhaps developing boom characteristics.

In the area of bank credit the most striking develop

ment since the preceding meeting is the sharp drop in the

seasonally adjusted money supply reported for August. We

estimate a money supply increase for the past four months

at an annual rate of 1 per cent, as against about 2-1/2

The comparable 12-month

per cent in the past twelve months.

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period in 1954-55 showed a 3.8 per cent rise, suggesting

that the record of early action to combat inflation has

been more impressive this time than in the previous business

expansion.

The rise in bank loans in August was at a record

level; and while the banks have continued to be able and

willing to dispose of Government securities at a record rate,

the net effect has been to make them increasingly illiquid.

We are of course again confronted with a difficult

Treasury financing operation--a cash offering of perhaps

$3.5 billion--with the market apprehensive in view of the

very sharp run-up in interest rates on Treasury securities

and other market paper in recent weeks, some of which

reflected a sharp reversal in corporate demand for Govern

ments as well as the growing illiquidity of the banks.

This, combined with the spreading public view that credit

may be becoming unavailable, suggests a situation in which

I believe we should adopt a cautious attitude. Last week

our directors expressed the fear that we might be pressing

the economy a little

too hard.

I would certainly not advocate any change in our basic

policy of credit restraint. However, having confirmed that

policy publicly with our latest discount rate increase, I

think we can well afford to recognize the Treasury's problem

and the pressure of seasonal demands for credit and to try

to take some of the sharp edge off the present policy of

restraint with a view to helping the market achieve at

least some temporary rate stability. We should make clear

our readiness to provide for seasonal needs. It would be

better to put out some reserves now in a modest amount

rather than run the risk of subsequent knots in the market

that would require a large injection of reserves.

I think

the Manager should be given considerable leeway, with the

understanding that any shading in the degree of restraint

should be handled in such a way as to avoid any erroneous

It seems to me

impression of a change in basic policy.

that the directive should be continued as it is.

Mr.

Erickson said that the economy in the Boston District con

tinued to be healthy.

Whatever softness there was in the statistics

seemed due to seasonal factors rather than to the steel strike or to

basic weaknesses in

the economy.

went down 1 per cent in

The industrial production index

July and was expected to decrease further in

August, he said, and department store sales in

three of the four most

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recent weeks were off 8 per cent compared with last year, probably

reflecting weather conditions.

ment in

The drop in

July of this year was less than in

insured unemployment had been down in

nonagricultural employ

either 1957 or 1958, and

five of the last six weeks.

At savings banks, deposits showed a 6 per cent increase and mortgages

a 10 per cent increase compared with a year ago.

All information

indicated that the steel strike had had only small effect on the

First District, Mr. Erickson said, noting that carloadings in the

seven weeks of the strike decreased less than 4 per cent in that

area compared with an 11 per cent decrease for the nation.

Speaking of monetary policy for the next three weeks, Mr.

Erickson said he would be inclined to leave open market operations

to the Desk and to keep the same degree of restraint without in

creasing it

in

any way.

He would make no change in the directive

at this time.

Mr. Irons said there had been no important basic changes in

economic activity in the Eleventh District recently.

The oil industry

continued on a nine-day allowable and he doubted whether there would

be much change in

three months.

the district oil situation over the next two or

Agricultural conditions were favorable and this

should be a good year in that field.

excellent during August.

Department store sales were

Employment had improved and unemployment

as a percentage of labor force was running substantially lower than

nationally.

Construction had declined during the past month.

The

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effects of the steel strike had not been significant in the Eleventh

District thus far.

Demand for bank loans continued strong, but the

rise had been tempered over the past three weeks.

Member bank

borrowing at the Reserve Bank averaged lower in August than in

Pressure on banks continued heavy, Mr.

July.

Irons said, and their liquidity

positions continued relatively low with ratios of loans to deposits

high.

Mr. Irons said that he felt

operations for the System Account

had been quite satisfactory during the past three weeks,

with continued

pressure in the money market that had not been entirely reflected in

the statistics.

During the next few weeks reserves should be provided

as needed, neither anticipatory nor reluctantly but as the situation

evolved.

Mr. Irons felt

it

particularly important for the System

Account to be free to operate as needed according to the tone and

feel of the market during this period.

He would like to continue

the present degree of restriction, but recalling that over the past

several months he had expressed a view that deviations be on the side

of restraint, he now was inclined to feel that in

this period it

would

be more appropriate that any deviations be on the side of less re

straint.

This was because he believed less damage would be done in

the period of rising seasonal demands for credit just ahead, when the

market would tend to tighten itself

that way than if

anyway, by resolving doubts in

they deviated on the side of restraint.

He would

not change the discount rate or the directive at this time.

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Mr. Mangels reported figures for California showing mid

August employment at an all-time record high level.

Unemployment

had dropped to 3.4 per cent of the labor force, the lowest percentage

in

two years.

In the Pacific Northwest the present high rate of

employment reflected a later than usual expansion in

employment rather than in general activity.

agricultural

Seasonal cutbacks in

that area during October were expected with increasing unemployment

during the winter in

various industries.

Consumer spending continued

high, department store sales increasing 11 per cent over 1958 for the

year to date and 12 per cent in

the four weeks ending September 15.

Consumer borrowings also had been increasing.

Mr. Mangels referred to the effects of the strike in copper

mining in

Utah, noting that banks reported some requests for extensions

on loans because of this factor, although it

serious problem.

had not yet become a

He also commented that tax receipts for the State

of Utah would be affected adversely because of the copper strike.

Residential construction was still

a little

higher than last year

but was declining from month to month.

After reporting that a proposed $100 million issue of school

bonds in the State of California had been reduced to $50 million and

that it

had been sold at a yield of 4.01 per cent, Mr. Mangels said

that bankers were emphasizing the feeling of tightness in

the money

market even though loans were showing increases during the past

several weeks.

This increase in loans, however, was offset by sales

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of Government securities.

However, Twelfth District banks were

net sellers of Federal funds in

this period and borrowings from

the Federal Reserve Bank had been quite low.

Mr. Mangels said that consideration of the factors reviewed

led him to the conclusion that, while Committee policy should not

be modified, there should be no increase in

the degree of restraint

and the Federal Reserve should be willing to supply freely legitimate

credit needs between now and the end of the year as seasonal demands

increased.

He would make no change in

the Committee's directive.

Mr. Deming said that the long steel strike and the short

small-grain crop were likely to have a double effect on the Ninth

District economy.

The steel strike effects had been masked partly

by an excellent tourist season, but after Labor Day when the tourist

season ended the effects of the strike had begun to show up in the

district, particularly in

seasonal unemployment in

the areas directly affected.

the mining areas was anticipated this winter

and, for reasons that he outlined, income in

severely affected even if

Considerable

the steel strike is

the mining areas would be

settled soon.

The

closely balanced budget of the State of Minnesota would also be

affected adversely by the steel strike.

Cash farm income was likely

to be reduced by 13 to 15 per cent during current crop year, Mr.

Deming said, and the combination of the effects of the steel and

copper strikes and the reduced farm income would undoubtedly have a

dragging effect on the district's

economy during the next twelve

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months.

The district would probably tag behind the rest of the

country.

Mr.

Deming said he saw no reason to change the Committee's

directive or the discount rates of the Federal Reserve Banks at this

time.

He agreed that there should be no increase in

the degree of

restraint through open market operations or otherwise in

the light

of all of the factors that had been mentioned at this meeting.

would resolve doubts in

He

carrying out policy on the side of ease rather

than of restraint during the coming weeks.

Mr. Allen commented that the steel supply situation was the

subject of greatest current interest and concern in

Dist.ict.

the Seventh

Although deteriorating at an accelerated pace, the

transition from adequate to inadequate steel supplies had not been

as abrupt as suggested by press reports.

About ten million tons of

the steel on hand at the beginning of the strike were believed to

have been used up by mid-September,

million tons on hand at present,

beginning of 1959.

leaving about twelve to thirteen

or about the amount held at the

This sizable tonnage did not adequately measure

the current steel supply, however, because some firms held relatively

large supplies, because of the problem of mix of inventory, because

some steel was in

speculative channels and would stay there, and

because some users would be slow to deplete stocks below their basic

LIFO stock on December 31.

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Newspaper reports notwithstanding, Mr. Allen said that

reports in

the automobile industry indicated that steel inventories

would permit it

to operate at scheduled rates of production at least

until October 15 and possibly until October 31.

If

as reported the

steel industry could reach 60 per cent of capacity by the end of

the first

week of production after the end of the strike and 90 per

cent by the end of the second week, and if

the mills went back into

operation soon after October 1, there might be little,

hesitation in

if

any,

automobile production.

Loan expansion at reporting member banks had slackened over

the past three weeks,

Mr. Allen said, security loans having been

paid down and real estate loans having been virtually unchanged.

Consumer loans continued strong.

decline in

The most striking feature was the

growth of loans to business, he said.

Factors contributing

to this included the high degree of corporate liquidity and accumula

tion of tax funds as manufacturers of metal products liquidated

inventories.

Despite the slow-down in

loan growth,

positions had become tighter, particularly in

where deposits were down rather sharply,

the larger centers

although the tightness of

Chicago banks had become no greater than in

summer.

bank reserve

late spring or early

Increased reserve pressures had appeared in Detroit and

Milwaukee as well as Chicago.

On the other hand, country banks

had reduced their borrowings somewhat from the unusually high levels

of recent months.

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Mr. Allen said he felt the Committee should maintain

approximately the current degree of restraint.

He hoped and he

believed that the high cost of money was beginning to bite.

He

thought there would be an increased bite resulting from the policy

that the Committee had been following,

but he could see no reason

now to change what the Committee was doing.

As Mr. Thomas had

noted, additional reserves would be needed to meet seasonal demands

between now and the end of the year.

make no change in

Mr. Allen said that he would

the directive at this time, although he hoped

the time would come soon when the reference to expanding employment

opportunities might be removed from clause (b) of the first

para

graph.

Mr. Leedy said that Tenth District conditions continued

strong even though output of agriculture, particularly of wheat,

was smaller this year than last.

There was some concern as to

the prices of livestock and banks lending on livestock were said

to have attempted to cut back such loans and to require additional

security.

Insured unemployment continued at a lower level than in

the nation as a whole.

Department store sales since the first

of

this year continued to show gains which have been exceeded only in

the Twelfth District.

loans in

in

Member banks reported a slight increase in

the past three weeks, but there had been some reduction

demands on the Kansas City Reserve Bank discount window.

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Mr. Leedy said he subscribed to what had been said thus far

regarding policy for the coming weeks.

He would continue what the

Committee has been doing, making every effort not to tighten any

further.

He would not anticipate the seasonal needs that were coming

up but he would readily respond as the needs actually appeared.

the recent increase in

the discount rate, with no change in

policy, and with the Treasury financing needs this fall,

it

With

credit

would be

inappropriate to change the directive at this time or otherwise to

change any policy indicators.

Mr. Leach said that the Fifth District economy had been

largely unaffected by the steel strike except in

specific areas

such as Baltimore and the West Virginia mining centers.

This was

because the district's economic structure predominantly was not

directly and immediately tied in with activity in

The textile industry remained in

the steel industry.

strong position with virtually no

possibility of scheduling new orders for 1959 delivery in many lines.

Furniture orders picked up strongly in

midsummer, putting unfilled

orders at the highest level in the current expansion.

Bituminous

coal production was at a reduced level because of the continuing

steel strike.

Cigarette sales for 1959 through August established

a new record well above that of 1958.

The rise in cigarette sales

was said to reflect an increase in the number of smokers among teen

agers and women.

The continuing popularity of filter tips and the

growing boom in menthols was primarily responsible for this year's

rise.

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Loan demand kept district banks under pressure through the

first

week in

September, Mr. Leach said, this being evidenced by

continued reduction in

investments,

from the Federal Reserve,

by a high level of borrowings

and by net Federal funds purchases.

A

temporary inflow of funds during the past week enabled banks to

reduce borrowings at the Federal Reserve sharply and to sell Federal

funds.

Mr. Leach said that he felt it

would be inappropriate to

tighten credit any further at this time in view of the current

weakness in

financing,

the Government securities market, the impending Treasury

and the continuance of the steel strike with its

effects becoming more and more pronounced.

At the moment,

secondary

he would

resolve doubts on the side of ease while maintaining approximately

the present degree of restraint and recognizing that the need for

further restraint may well reappear in

not advocate a change in

the near future.

He would

the directive.

Mr. Mills said that he was in general agreement with Mr.

Hayes'

appraisal of the economic and financial situation and with

the recommendations that he had suggested as to current policy.

He had grave fears, however,

that the Federal Reserve System was

drifting into a position of clinging dogmatically to policies and

theories that in

the light of current developments deserved a

thoroughgoing rethinking.

He pointed particularly to the psycho

logical factors that clouded the market and which should be a

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matter of first

concern in the Committee's policy developments,

adding that he did not believe the Committee could ignore the

effects on general thinking of the decline in

the stock market

or the fears that had been expressed about a Federal Reserve policy

that would so restrict the availability of credit as to handicap

the normal growth of the business community and the regional economy.

Mr.

Mills said that it

might be superstition, but he recalled clearly

many years ago the Hatray failure in

London that unlocked the doors

to a financial collapse, and he read only yesterday of the Jasper

situation that had developed there and which conceivably could

foretell a similar development in

that market.

We in the United

States, he said, must continue to be the element of strength in

the

international picture and should bend our greatest efforts toward

maintaining the sort of strength and the sort of posture that would

give the greatest assurance internationally.

He doubted whether

that confidence would be strengthened if we continually expressed

a lack of confidence in

If

at some point it

our own ability to maintain a viable economy.

should be the desire of the Committee to ease

the situation of the commercial banking system moderately (he

believed in

restraint),

and when the Committee arrived at the point

of wishing to supply reserves, a moderate shift should be engaged

in very cautiously.

This was because the abnormally high level of

member bank discounts at the Federal Reserve Banks has had the

effect of feeding reserves into the Federal funds market which would

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not be extinguished simultaneously with an expected reduction in

the volume of discounting,

and as a result when new reserves were

additionally supplied a superfluity of reserves could occur that

might erroneously give rise to an impression of a reversal rather

than a moderation of System policy.

After referring to the information presented by the staff

regarding economic conditions, Mr. Robertson stated that it

was

clear from that presentation that the economy was on the edge of a

boom.

He could see some evidence that during the past three weeks

the policy the Committee had been following had, as Mr. Allen had

commented,

begun to bite.

In Mr. Robertson's view this was wholesome.

He could see no indication that the Federal Reserve was pressing too

hard on restraint, and he would recommend that the Committee maintain

the same degree of tightness that now prevailed throughout the forth

coming Treasury financing period.

He differed perhaps from some

others who had spoken this morning only in that he would not resolve

doubts on the side of ease.

He would hope there would be no doubts

to resolve and that Account operations would maintain an even

position throughout this period.

Mr.

Shepardson said that there seemed to be general agree

ment thus far on the approach to be taken in

the next few weeks,

System operations during

with fine shadings of views as to just exactly

what the position should be.

had expressed himself, that is,

He was inclined to feel as Mr.

Irons

that with seasonal demands adding

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pressure during the next few weeks there would be less danger if

the Committee's operations were to err on the side of ease than

if doubts were resolved on the side of increased tightness.

He

would prefer to hold as nearly as possible to the present position,

with a recommendation that if a drop in the degree of pressure

became evident the seasonal demand for credit would be permitted

to restore the present position.

Mr. King said that he agreed generally with the comments

made at this meeting, more specifically with those of Messrs. Hayes,

Irons, and Shepardson.

The need for additional reserves to meet

the seasonal rise had been well pointed up and there was no question

in his mind but that the System should do everything appropriate to

supply the reserves necessary for this purpose.

With reference to

comments that there might be a resumption of boom conditions when

the steel strike ended, Mr. King commented that he doubted industry

would run out of steel before the strike was settled.

The fact that

the strike thus far had had little effect on other parts of the

economy made him think that its settlement might not spur activity

generally.

His discussions with businessmen led him to believe

that the economy was not on the verge of a new boom.

Repeating

that he agreed with the policy suggestion of Mr. Hayes, Mr. King

said that he would make no change in the directive at this time

but would hope that the financing needs during the fall months

would be met through System operations.

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Mr.

Fulton described conditions in

he observed them in

the steel industry as

the Fourth District, commenting that in

so far

as the strike was concerned both management and labor appeared to

be standing adamantly on the original premises they had expressed.

He doubted that a noninflationary contract would result in

the end.

There had been rather few complaints as to shortages of steel, but

inventories were becoming unbalanced.

A rapid rise in

unemployment

might result from this factor within the next week or two.

Mr.

Fulton said he was not quite as sanguine as Mr. Allen regarding a

rapid rise in

output in

strike was settled.

steel within the first

two weeks after the

In fact, his information was that 90 per cent

capacity operations would not be attained for some little

time after

production had been resumed.

Mr. Fulton reported that department store sales in

the Fourth

District were holding up well during the current month although un

employment claims had been rising.

Construction had declined and

there was concern regarding the level of housing activity the latter

part of this year.

Loan demands were substantial but banks had not

been coming to the Reserve Bank's discount window in

inordinate

amounts.

Monetary policy, Mr.

Fulton said, should aim toward continuing

the degree of restraint that now existed.

Normal fall

tighten credit and he would favor erring a little

demands would

on the side of ease,

believing that this could be done without doing violence to the

Federal Reserve's position.

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Mr. Fulton

went on to say that he would like to see an

effort made to get part of member banks' vault cash counted as

reserves as would be permitted under the new reserve requirements

law.

He hoped that this could be done during the fall of 1959,

thus reducing the need for putting so much in the way of reserves

into the market through Account operations.

in

He would make no change

the Committee's directive or in the discount rate at the present

time.

Mr.

Bopp commented on the discussions that directors of the

Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia had regarding a change in the

discount rate subsequent to the meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee on September 1,

his remarks being for the purpose of

indicating that the fact the Philadelphia Bank was the last of the

Reserve Banks to raise its

in

discount rate from 3-1/2 to 4 per cent

no way indicated that the directors of the Bank were reluctant

to take such action.

With respect to economic developments, Mr. Bopp said that

secondary unemployment in

the Third District resulting from the

steel strike had increased only moderately during the past three

weeks.

Few steel fabricators in

the Philadelphia region had been

compelled to shut down because of a shortage of steel, but some

were reported to be running out of key items and the consensus was

that the shortage of steel would become serious by the end of this

month.

Unless the strike was settled by that time many fabricators

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would face reduced operations or shutdowns.

Mr.

Bopp also commented

on the industrial centers classified as chronic labor surplus areas,

noting that five of the seventeen major areas so classified were in

the Third District.

This classification meant that such areas had

an unemployment rate at least 50 per cent above the national average

during four of the past five years.

New claims in Philadelphia for

unemployment insurance averaged somewhat less in the last three weeks

and continued considerably below the corresponding period of 1958,

he said, adding that the Pennsylvania Secretary of Labor and Industry

had reported a few days ago that 78 plants in the State had shut

down completely because of the steel strike.

Philadelphia member

banks increased their borrowings from the Reserve Bank in the latest

week and also had been net purchasers of Federal funds recently.

Mr. Bopp said that he agreed in general with the statements

that had been made regarding Committee policy during the next three

weeks, that is,

it

should aim to maintain the present degree of

restraint and should resolve any doubts on the side of ease.

There

should be no change now in the directive or in the discount rate.

Mr. Bryan commented that almost no new figures on economic

activity in the Sixth District had become available since the meeting

three weeks ago.

At that meeting, he reported that construction

contracts had declined sharply, but more recent information indicates

that this measure has shown a reversal.

August loan figures of banks

showed an almost complete cessation of growth, but this probably was

temporary.

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On the matter of national policy, Mr. Bryan said he sub

scribed to the policy implied by Mr. Hayes and by others who felt

that the Committee should freely supply seasonal reserve needs and

make its errors on the side of ease rather than restraint in the

next few weeks.

He added that he had been studying data regarding

the long-run growth rates in reserves of the banking system and that,

on any basis he had been able to arrive at, it appeared that by the

end of this year there would have been no growth rate in reserves

unless the Federal Reserve met seasonal needs and a little bit more.

The System could easily get itself into the position of bringing

about greater tightness this fall than it desired unless it freely

supplied the amounts estimated for these seasonal needs, plus a little

bit more.

Mr. Johns said that economic activity in the Eighth District

gave no noticeable evidence of differing from the nation as a whole.

Louisville had been affected by the scarcity of steel which already

had resulted in curtailed operations at the General Electric appliance

plant, and this had an especial impact on activities in that area

because of the relatively large local importance of that industry.

Mr. Johns said that his views as to policy accorded with those pre

sented by Mr. Hayes.

Mr. Szymczak said that he did not believe the Committee could

afford to change policy at this time.

He felt that the Federal Reserve

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should have an operational attitude at the discount window and in

the open market that would not create further tension or further

tightness in

Mr.

the market.

Balderston recalled that three weeks ago he was one of

those who felt

the brakes should be applied more vigorously.

Evidence

that had come forward during the past three weeks had changed his view,

however,

at least for the moment.

In this period the cumulative

effects of System policy to which Mr.

evident.

Mills had referred had become

A report this morning indicated that new orders had declined.

The steel strike was showing no signs of termination.

This was a

strike, he noted, that involved working rules that affect the job

security of union members, and he thought it

difficult strike to settle.

might be an unusually

A resulting concern outside the steel

industry might be inhibiting exuberance and delaying plant construction.

For these and other reasons, Mr.

Balderston said he would sense that

some of the speculative fever that had disturbed him so greatly during

the summer months and which was reflected in the stock market might

for the moment have been reduced.

Consequently, he would continue

the policy of recent weeks but with a great deal of caution in

order

to avoid a psychological knot occurring.

Chairman Martin said that for his part he believed that

System policy had been about right recently and that it

was achieving

the purpose that the members of the Committee had been seeking.

One

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of the problems at the moment was to keep from having a psychological

situation carry us away and into a position on one side or the other

which would be inconsistent with the long-term objectives sought by

the Committee.

This was always true, he thought, when the expectation

that the Committee must meet large seasonal requirements and the growth

factor in the economy impinged on what the actual situation in the

economy would be.

The imponderable at the moment was the steel industry.

The

Chairman said he did not think any of us could be certain what the

result of the strike would be when it

was settled.

He was less

optimistic about the result than he was several weeks ago and perhaps

more optimistic about having the economy fall into a more

a little

stable state than then appeared likely.

This was because psychology

was now working toward having a stabilizing influence.

The stock

market had dropped somewhat and some of the fever seemed to have gone

out of it.

People were still

worried about the availability of credit.

We could not know whether the new model automobiles were going to

click, and there was doubt as to whether the new small cars would

sweep the country.

Until the picture was clearer,

the

Mr.

Committee should be cautious in

its

the Chairman's view was that

approach.

He agreed with

Szymczak because he believed the psychological problem that had

been created by the failure of the Treasury to get relief from the

Congress with respect to the interest rate ceiling and the

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unquestionable problem that faced the Treasury in

financing, along with all the difficulties in

its

current

the Government

securities market, were matters of major concern to the Federal

Reserve.

He supported Mr. Robertson's view that it

would be

desirable to have perfection in the Committee's policy and opera

tions, but he did not believe that the Committee could get perfection

and he did not believe that it

in its operations.

should ask the Desk to get perfection

Tone, color, and feel in the market were too

difficult to measure.

For this reason, he favored resolving whatever

errors there were on the side of ease during the next three weeks.

This was because he felt that the odds were on this side.

Several

weeks ago he felt that the odds were on the other side.

The Chairman went on to say that his observation of the comments

at this meeting made him feel there was so little difference in the views

expressed that it

was unnecessary to elaborate on the understanding as

to operations for the System Account during the next three weeks.

It

was clear that the majority favored no change in the directive and no

change in the discount rate.

It desired the same degree of restraint

to be maintained, allowing for tone, color, and feel in the market,

with a clear majority resolving whatever deviations there were from

that policy on the side of ease and in favor of giving the Manager

of the System Account the latitude that Mr.

him.

Hayes had requested for

The Chairman inquired whether any of the members of the Committee

differed with these comments and whether any wished to be recorded in

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the minutes of the meeting as holding views other than those that

would be recorded in

Mr.

their comments during the go-around.

Mills said that the question of the record of policy

actions of the Committee had come up before and that perhaps the

Committee would like at some time to consider whether the policy

record truly recorded the actions of the Committee.

These actions

were recorded as votes, he noted, but in his view,

the actions were

not based on votes.

The Committee reached a general consensus through

discussion, and the Chairman then asked whether there was a difference

of opinion.

In Mr. Mills'

view, that did not constitute a vote, and

personally, he did not think it possible to take a vote on problems

of the sort that come up in

Open Market meetings.

He contrasted the

procedure at Open Market meetings with that in meetings of the Board

of Governors or in

Boards of Directors of the Reserve Banks, where the

procedure and nature of problems made possible specific votes on

matters concerning which there was no difficulty in reaching formal

decisions by the members.

He suggested that the opposite was true in

the Open Market meetings, where the members came to draw on the thinking

of others and to have the benefit of the regional reports of those

present.

When all of that thinking was distilled, there was a general

area of agreement that could not, in

in a vote.

Mr.

Mills'

opinion, be recorded

The difficult task of drafting the Open Market policy

record called for indicating a consensus by drawing shades of opinion

so that the impression would not be gathered by the reading public

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that there was unanimity in

a group as diverse as this.

Chairman Martin said that he was glad Mr. Mills had raised

this question.

in

There had been a number of discussions of this matter

the past and there were differences of opinion as to how the record

might be made most satisfactory.

had been in

error at times in

He thought it

that it

probable that the Chair

should have given individuals

greater opportunity to vote against a policy decision on the record.

As to Mr. Mills' question whether the policy record really gave the

differences of opinion that were brought out in the meetings, Chairman

Martin suggested that it would be desirable for all of the members of

the Committee to review the minutes carefully and to give consideration

to the matter in

terms of the comments that Mr.

Mills had made.

This

was not something that the Committee could come to a conclusion on in

an offhand discussion, and he suggested that at a subsequent meeting a

period be set aside during which there could be a full discussion of

the subject and whether the Committee was developing the kind of policy

record that it should have to meet its obligation to the Congress under

the provisions of the Act.

Chairman Martin said that shades of policy

differences were difficult to record, but on the other hand, he in

tended to make it clear that whenever any individual member of the

Committee wished to record a vote against a policy decision, he should

have full opportunity for doing so and for recording that vote with

whatever amplifying comments he wished to have in

the record.

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Mr. Hayes said that he had sympathy with the position indicated

by Mr.

Mills.

He had wondered whether, without recording a vote, the

record of policy actions might state in a general way that there were

differences of opinion in arriving at a policy decision.

Chairman Martin reiterated his suggestion that the Committee

schedule a meeting before the end of this year at which it would

discuss the character and nature of the policy record.

Mr. Hayes then mentioned the desirability of getting drafts of

policy record entries currently, so that the shades of opinion expressed

by the participants would not be lost with the passage of time.

Chairman

Martin responded that the secretariat was working on this and planned to

get the entries to the members of the Committee earlier than in

the past.

Governor Shepardson reverted to the discussion of policy at this

meeting, stating that in this case the consensus was near universal.

Although Mr. Robertson would have favored resolving doubts on the side

of tightness, there seemed to be no other difference in the policy

decision.

Mr. Shepardson suggested that in a case such as this the

writing of a record of the policy decision could include a sentence

that would cover this one shade of difference.

Chairman Martin said he understood this to be the thing Mr.

Mills was suggesting, but he felt that it

would be desirable for the

whole Committee to review the matter and think it

the entire record.

that it

through in

terms of

He also agreed with a suggestion by Mr. Szymczak

would be desirable for anyone wishing to do so to send the

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Secretary comments on the form of the policy record.

This should be

taken, he suggested, as an opportunity for anyone who had any disagree

ment with the present form of the policy record to express his views

and give his constructive suggestions,

either in writing or at the

meeting at which the subject would be discussed.

Following a question as to when drafts of 1959 policy record

entries might be available, Mr.

Shepardson recalled that some time ago

it had been the consensus that these entries should be prepared and

distributed from meeting to meeting.

For various reasons this work

had not gotten on to a current basis, he said, but it

was expected

that the draft entries for meetings held during 1959 would be distributed

before the end of the year.

Mr.

Johns commented that without minimizing the importance of

having a policy record that would be an enlightening rather than a

confusing one to the public that read it,

a critical consideration was

whether the written record so confirmed the understanding that the

Manager of the System Account took away from the meetings that his

actions seemed to be consistent with the decisions at the meetings.

He thought this should not be overlooked as a part of the problem of

preparing the record of policy actions.

Chairman Martin then turned to the understanding as to the

policy to be followed during the next three weeks,

stating that he

gathered there was unanimous agreement that the directive to the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York should be renewed without change.

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Hearing no indication that any member of the Committee wished to be

recorded as voting otherwise,

the Chairman stated that the directive

would be so renewed.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the Committee voted unanimously

to direct the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York until otherwise directed by the Com

mittee:

(1)

To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges (in

cluding replacement of maturing securities and allowing

maturities to run off without replacement) for the System

Open Market Account in the open market or, in the case of

maturing securities, by direct exchange with the Treasury,

as may be necessary in the light of current and prospective

economic conditions and the general credit situation of the

country, with a view (a) to relating the supply of funds in

the market to the needs of commerce and business, (b) to

restraining inflationary credit expansion in order to foster

sustainable economic growth and expanding employment oppor

tunities, and (c) to the practical administration of the

Account; provided that the aggregate amount of securities

held in the System Account (including commitments for the

purchase or sale of securities for the Account) at the close

of this date, other than special short-term certificates of

indebtedness purchased from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury, shall not be increased or

decreased by more than $1 billion;

To purchase direct from the Treasury for the

(2)

account of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with

discretion, in cases where it seems desirable, to issue

participations to one or more Federal Reserve Banks) such

amounts of special short-term certificates of indebtedness

as may be necessary from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury; provided that the total

amount of such certificates held at any one time by the

Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in the aggregate

$500 million.

Mr.

Rouse referred to the request of the Joint Economic Com

mittee through Senator Douglas, reported at the meeting on September 1,

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that that Committee be furnished with aggregate figures over a

period of years on Government security dealers'

purchases and sales, and borrowing.

positions, volume of

In a letter to Senator Douglas

on September 11, 1959, he (Mr. Rouse) had explained that all but two

of the dealers had given permission to supply the requested information.

Since these two had declined on the grounds that the burden and expense

of preparing the data would be unreasonable, he had informed the Senator

that the Federal Reserve would not be able to furnish the totals

desired.

This was because the position of at least one of the two

nonreporting dealers might be revealed, since both of the nonreporting

dealers (one large and one very small) had furnished 1957-1958 material

that had been published in the Treasury-Federal Reserve study of the

Government securities market.

Thus,

if

their figures were to be omitted

from a series covering a period of years, their positions might be

revealed by a process of subtraction.

Mr. Rouse said that, accordingly,

his letter had suggested to Senator Douglas that the Joint Economic

.Committee obtain the information directly from the dealers if

the Com

mittee concluded that such procedure would be desirable.

Mr. Rouse went on to say that both he and Mr.

Riefler had now

received telephone calls from Mr. Knowles, Economist, Joint Economic

Committee, requesting that a series of figures for the period since

1950 be furnished by adjusting the total for the firms that had agreed

to supply the data so as to raise it by the proportion reported by the

two nonreporting firms during the 1957-58 period covered by the

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Treasury-Federal Reserve study.

Mr. Rouse said that he had pointed

out to Mr. Knowles that such method of adjustment might produce mis

leading figures.

While such a series could be prepared, Mr. Rouse

said that he would not wish to furnish it

to the Committee unless it

were accompanied by a statement that clearly pointed out the statistical

defects in the procedure.

Mr. Riefler said that although he felt the suggestion made by

Mr. Knowles was statistically unsound, there had been a commitment to

furnish data on dealers'

positions, if

in

so doing the Federal Reserve

did not reveal directly or indirectly the positions of individual

dealers.

Therefore,

Mr. Riefler felt that if

the Joint Economic Com

mittee desired to make a written request for the figures, including a

statement as to how it

wanted the estimated totals prepared, there

would not be a good basis for declining to comply with the Committee's

request.

After some discussion and at Chairman Martin's suggestion, it

was agreed that if a written request were received from the Joint

Economic Committee for the preparation of figures on the basis outlined

there would be no objection to complying with the request with the

understanding that when the figures were transmitted they would be

accompanied by a statement commenting on the unreliability of a series

prepared in the manner suggested.

Mr.

Balderston then referred to the discussion near the con

clusion of the meeting on May 26, 1959, regarding the problem of

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estimating the money supply.

He recalled the understanding that the

System Research Advisory Committee be asked to prepare a memorandum

setting forth the problem and perhaps making some suggestions,

and he

inquired of Mr. Thomas as to the progress toward developing such a

memorandum.

Mr. Thomas reported that a preliminary memorandum was now being

prepared by a subcommittee and that it

would be considered by the System

Research Advisory Committee at a forthcoming meeting.

Chairman Martin noted that the next meeting of the Committee

would be scheduled for Tuesday,

objection.

October 13, 1959, unless there were

In view of the fact that Tuesday, November 3, which normally

would be the date for the following meeting, was an election holiday in

some States, he suggested that it

meeting for Wednesday,

might be desirable to schedule that

November 4.

After brief discussion, it

was

agreed that the next two meetings of the Committee would be held on

Tuesday, October 13,

and Wednesday,

November 4,

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

1959.

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1959, September 21). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19590922
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19590922,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1959},
  month = {Sep},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19590922},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}