fomc minutes · January 11, 1960

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held

in the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

System in Washington on Tuesday, January 12,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

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Mr.

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Mr.

Mr.

1960, at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Allen

Balderston

Deming

Erickson

Johns

King

Mills

Robertson

Shepardson

Szymczak

Messrs. Bopp, Bryan, Fulton, and Leedy, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Irons and Mangels, Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of Dallas and San

Francisco, respectively

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Jones, Marget, Noyes, Parsons, Roosa,

and Willis, Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the

Board of Governors

Mr. Koch, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Keir, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Mr. Knipe, Consultant to the Chairman, Board

of Governors

Messrs. Hostetler, Daane, Baughman, Tow, and

Einzig, Vice Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of Cleveland, Richmond,

Chicago, Kansas City, and San Francisco,

respectively

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Mr. Anderson, Economic Adviser, Federal

Reserve Bank of Philadelphia

Mr. ColdweIl, Director of Research, Federal

Reserve Bank of Dallas

Mr. Stone, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Brandt, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of Atlanta

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meeting of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee held on December 15, 1959, were

approved.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the action of the

members of the Federal Open Market Com

mittee, taken pursuant to a wire from the

Secretary dated December 21, 1959, in

authorizing that sample sets of the minutes

of the Committee be made available to

representatives of the Subcommittee on

Foreign Operations and Monetary Affairs of

the House Government Operations Committee,

was ratified.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report of open market operations covering the period

December 15, 1959, through January 6, 1960, and a supplementary report

covering the period January 7 through January

11, 1960.

Copies of

both reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

In commenting on developments since the preceding meeting, Mr.

Rouse made the following statement:

During the past four weeks, the Desk has been faced

not only with the customary seasonal pressures that emerge

at the year-end but also with several special occurrences

that demanded our close attention. All of these factors

taken together resulted in a substantial rise in market

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rates of interest. Among the more significant of these

special occurrences was the attitude of the New York banks

toward the extension of credit to dealers over the year-end.

The details as to the reason for the banks' attitude have

already been covered in the written reports and need not be

repeated now. Suffice it to say that we regarded this

attitude as decidedly harmful to the market at a crucial

period. We therefore talked with several banks, and perhaps

partly as a result of these conversations their attitude

apparently softened somewhat.

Nevertheless, dealers reduced

inventories to abnormally low levels for this time of year,

partly out of apprehension over the availability of credit

at year-end. I should also mention in connection with the

banks' attitude that some progress may have been made toward

breaking down the tradition of window dressing, for two major

banks showed substantial borrowings from the New York Reserve

Bank on December 31, while another was a net borrower in the

Federal funds market.

I question, however, whether we should

take credit for this since it was policy in one case and real

need in the other two cases.

In addition to the threatened scarcity of credit at the

year-end, additional pressure was put on interest rates by

the approaching Treasury financing. Also, expectations of a

developing boom in 1960 were further strengthened by the

settlement of the steel strike which, in the eyes of many

observers, carried inflationary overtones.

As a result of

these factors, coupled with the increasing demands for credit,

and the resulting expectations of higher interest rates ahead,

the Government securities market had a generally heavy tone

over the period. Prices of some long-term bonds declined

nearly four points while most Treasury bill issues traded at

new high levels.

As is usual toward the end of each year, open market

operations for bankers' acceptances were stepped up to meet

seasonal pressures in that market. These pressures, however,

were more severe than usual in 1959. The supply of new

acceptances increased seasonally but foreign accounts stopped

buying acceptances and, in many cases, sold on balance,

The accepting banks,

apparently for window dressing purposes.

faced with a large addition of dollar exchange bills early in

January, pressed relatively large blocks of acceptances onto

a dealer market which was unable to move them in size, with

the result that dealer portfolios were built up to a new peak

of $80 million. Dealers were reluctant to raise rates further

because they could not see that a moderately higher rate would

clear the market quickly; because they felt rates were already

high in relation to other borrowing rates; and because they

believed the situation would tend to correct itself early in

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the new year. As a result, the dealers finally curtailed

their purchases of acceptances sharply, leaving a large

overhanging supply in the hands of the accepting banks.

The action by the System both in increasing its out

right holdings of acceptances and making repurchase

agreements against acceptances was designed to meet the

seasonal pressures and to assist in maintaining general

stability in the money and securities markets within the

framework of restrictive open market policy. The extent

of the action was roughly in line with measures taken under

similar but less drastic circumstances prevailing at

previous year-ends, and in accord with the guides to action

arising out of the Committee discussion a little

over a

year ago.

After the year-end, dealers' portfolios were reduced to

around $43 million but because of the large backlog of ac

ceptances still

overhanging the market, dealers have moved

their rates up by 3/8 of 1 per cent to 5 per cent bid far

90 days, and even at the new rate have been buyers on balance,

portfolios aggregating $52.4 million last night. Some of the

backlog has apparently been taken care of at these higher

rates, but it may be some time before the market is cleared

up, particularly if the block of Venezuelan dollar exchange

bills is pressed on the market as appeared likely yesterday

afternoon. Whether borrowers generally will be willing to

pay the resulting acceptance cost of 6-1/2 per cent (5 per

cent, plus 1-1/2 per cent commission) remains to be seen.

It is possible that this cost will increase the pressure on

the prime loan rate. Dealers are attempting to interest

buyers in swaps out of short-term Treasury bills.

I might also mention that the special payment of part

of System surplus to the Treasury, amounting to $266 million

in addition to the regular monthly payment which amounted to

$73 million, was handled with a minimum impact on member

The payment was made on January 4, but the

bank reserves.

reserve impact was neutralized as the Treasury permitted its

balance at the Federal Reserve to run higher than usual until

January 7, when the System ran off $206.2 million Treasury

bills scheduled for maturity on that date.

As far as Treasury financing is concerned, the January

program of a $2 billion issue of June 22 tax anticipation

bills, and the rollover of only $1.5 billion of the $2 billion

special issue maturing January 15 into one-year Treasury bills,

was generally well received by the market, which had been

anticipating new Treasury borrowing of at least $2 billion net.

There was considerable early apprehension about the auction of

the $1-1/2 billion one-year Treasury bills, particularly in

view of the fact that there would be no Tax and Loan Account

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privilege on this issue. Market guesses last week indicated

a range of 5.30 to 5.40 per cent in the auction, but there

was a decided improvement in sentiment towards the close on

Friday.

Over the weekend, an article in the Sunday Times

pointing to these issues as the Treasury's "best bargain"

led to an unexpectedly large public interest in the issue,

reminiscent of the reception accorded the 5 per cent notes

of 1964 last October. This is another example of public

responsiveness to attractive interest rates. A 5.10 per cent

average issuing rate, for example, would mean a net return

to an investor of about 5.47 per cent on an investment yield

basis. Guessing as to the rate in today's auction is now

down to about 5.05 per cent, according to information from

the Desk just a few minutes ago.

The Systen holds $245

million of the maturing January 15 bills. In view of the

reserve projections over the next few weeks, and with the

large public interest in today's auction making its success

very likely, we plan to submit tenders in today's auction

which will run off a portion of these bills on the 15th.

Our tenders for this part of our subscription will be

designed to be only a shade below the stop-out bid. The

Treasury is fortunate in having a rally in its securities

develop just prior to the bidding today. Basically the

rally developed as a reaction to a bearish position on the

part of commercial banks which was considerably overdone,

and the recovery was aided by the budget surplusses pro

jected in the President's State of the Union Message on

The bond rally seemed to lose steam yesterday

Thursday.

afternoon, but the Treasury bill market closed with all

outstanding bills at or below 5 per cent bid. In the

auction yesterday 91-day bills averaged 4.59 per cent and

the 182-day bills 4.99 per cent, compared with 4.60 per

cent and 5.10 per cent a week ago.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions during

the period December 15, 1959, through

January 11, 1960, were approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

In supplementation of the staff memorandum distributed under

date of January 8, 1960, Mr. Noyes made the following statement with

respect to economic developments:

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The most noteworthy developments in the period since

the last meeting are the settlement of the steel strike

and the announcement by the President in his State of the

Union Message that he anticipates a small surplus in fiscal

1960, and that in the budget estimates for 1961 receipts

exceed expenses by $4.2 billion.

While we do not yet know all of the details with respect

to the steel settlement, the broad outlines are clear. It

provides for a rate of increase in labor cost that will prob

ably be slightly in excess of the rate of increase in

productivity in the steel industry.

The best guesses seem to

be that for the industry as a whole, employment costs will go

up about 3-1/2 per cent per year over the period of the con

tract. On the basis of recent trends, output per man hour

will probably increase at a little

less than 3 per cent per

annum.

The difference between these two rates is much smaller

than in other postwar settlements, as is evidenced by the

industry's estimate that employment costs have increased 7-1/2

per cent per year on the average since 196.

In the longer run, the limitations on the escalator

clause that are contained in the settlement may be even more

important.

If one grants that technical factors are likely

to carry the consumer price index up a few points in the next

two years, in any case, then the steel workers have everything

to lose and nothing to gain from further inflation and this

fact should be readily apparent to them. From the point of

view of the Federal Reserve, and perhaps the country as a

whole, this is probably the mos significant fact emerging

from the welter of claims and counter claims as to the

inflationary or noninflationary nature of the contract.

The estimate in the President's message, that there will

be a small surplus for fiscal 1960, appears to be well-founded.

Whether the $4.2 billion surplus for 1961 will survive in an

election year is less certain. In any case, the strike

settlement and the State of the Union message, taken together,

have put the stock market into a position in which it hasn't

seemed to know which way to turn, despite the universally

bullish prognostications for economic activity in the year

ahead. Some observers seem to feel that we may have now

reached the long-heralded point where the relative yields

are attracting a substantial flow of new institutional

investment away from equities into fixed income securities.

The customary measures of current activity are almost

and further increases seem as certain for the

up,

all

near-term future as anything can be. On a seasonally

adjusted basis, even construction activity, which has been

The Board's

lagging for several months, was up in December.

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revised index of industrial production, moving at new

and unfamiliar levels, rose from 156 in November to

about 163 or 164 in December, and should easily pass

the pre-strike peak of 166 this month. Gross national

product is estimated to have been $481 billion in the

fourth quarter, and is expected to come close to $500

billion for the current quarter.

The record seasonally

adjusted rate of 151 per cent of the 1947-49 average

which is estimated for department store sales in

December represents an impressive volume of cash and

credit by any standards.

It is almost alarming to

estimate what the expansion in instalment credit in

1959 might have been had it not been for the steel

strike.

The $5-1/2 billion expansion which did take

place was equal to 1955 in dollar volume, although the

percentage increase was, of course, smaller.

These data, portraying as they unquestionably do a

high and growing rate of economic activity, stand in

interesting contrast to wholesale prices and the money

supply, both of which are substantially unchanged from

year-ago levels.

Perhaps this contrast accounts, at least in part,

for the fact that in the forecasts for 1960 one finds

much less assurance of the inevitability of inflation

than in their counterparts of a year ago.

Mr.

Thomas presented the following statement concerning

financial developments

Further increases in interest rates to new high

levels in the past month and severe pressures on

money markets may be attributed basically to the large

volume of credit demands to cover seasonal liquidity

needs, though in part to market expectations as to

Since the termination of

forthcoming developments.

the seasonal pressures, the tone of the market has

changed and interest rates have steadied or declined

somewhat from their highs. Other causes for the

anticipations

varying moods of the market were, first,

financing,

Treasury

forthcoming

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to

as

and then the changes that occurred when the Treasury

announced smaller needs and also when the President

mentioned the possibility of a budgetary surplus.

The shifts in actual credit demands, aside from

psychology and expectations, are shown by the banking

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figures of the period.

At banks in leading cities,

business loans, including those to sales finance

companies, increased by over $1.1 billion in the four

weeks from December 2 to December 30--a larger increase

than in the same period of other recent years. Loans

on securities also increased substantially, though not

as much as in some other years. There were further

increases in real estate and other loans and in holdings

of securities other than Governments.

Holdings of

Governments declined further, reflecting redemption of

an outstanding tax bill issue, as well as continued bank

liquidation to obtain funds to meet loan demands. As a

net result total loans and investments, excluding loans

to banks, increased by around $1.2 billion--a substantial

but not unusual expansion for December.

Pressures on the Government securities market resulted

from sales by banks and also from a sharp decline in dealers'

portfolios. A decline in dealers' positions is unusual for

December and it resulted in part from fear of financing

difficulties at the year end. At the same time many other

holders were probably endeavoring to sell securities to

raise needed cash. Treasury bill rates rose to a high

level--well over 5 per cent on an investment yield basis

for many issues. Long-term rates increased sharply and

rose above the highs reached temporarily in September.

Within the past few days these trends have been reversed.

Bill yields have declined somewhat and reception for the

new offerings has been much better than expected. In

fact, public interest evidenced in the new one-year bill

to be auctioned today is exceptional. Less than a week

ago a failure of the offering was viewed as a possibility.

The changed tone of the Government securities market

in the last few days may also reflect the course of bank

week of the month there was an

credit. In the first

exceptionally sharp decline in loans at New York City

banks and also a moderate decrease in investments.

Partial figures for banks in leading cities outside New

York also show marked seasonal declines in loans and

investments, although perhaps not as great as in the

same week of some other recent years.

New capital issues by State and local governments,

which were in moderate volume during November and December,

are scheduled for rather large offerings in January.

Corporate offerings continue moderate.

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Although the number and frequency of Treasury offer

ings in January has kept the market under some pressure,

the amount of cash financing is less than had been

expected.

Since early December the volume of the public

debt outstanding has been in the process of decreasing,

and in the months ahead any new borrowing will be more

than offset by earlier or subsequent retirement of debt.

It is possible that except for a moderate volume of

borrowing in April, no substantial cash borrowing will

be needed until July.

Bank credit expansion in December apparently resulted

in a somewhat greater than seasonal increase in the money

supply during that month. At city banks demand deposits

increased somewhat more than in other recent years, but

there was a larger than usual decline in the first week of

January.

Time deposit growth was only moderate. Figures

are not yet available for country banks, which usually

show very large and often unpredictable changes in Decem

ber. Comparisons with the past, moreover, are somewhat

complicated by the change in definition to exclude Federal

Reserve remittance drafts from deposits. When allowance

is made for changes in the banking structure and in the

definition, demand deposits adjusted at member banks in

the last half of December may have been a little

smaller

than a year ago. Much, or perhaps all, of this decrease

was offset by an increase at nonmember banks. The decline

for member banks was mostly in central reserve city banks;

country member banks showed a moderate increase.

Reserves to meet the large and varying seasonal needs

of banks in recent weeks have been supplied in part by

System purchases of securities, to a small extent through

increased vault cash holdings, and to a considerable degree

by a large, partly seasonal, increase in float. Banks have

kept their borrowings at an average level of between $900

million and $1 billion, with a substantial temporary

increase in the first few days of this year to correct for

year-end deficits. Since some of the available reserves

arose from float and also because of the large seasonal

liquidity needs, excess reserves were permitted to increase

to relatively high levels at times during the period. This

may explain in part why money markets were often tighter

than the level of net borrowed reserves would indicate.

System operations have been absorbing reserves for

Including sales yesterday and the

nearly four weeks.

redemption of maturing bills next Thursday, the total

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reduction effected so far is close to $1 billion. An

additional $400 million reduction will be needed in the

next two weeks to maintain a level of about $500 million

of net borrowed reserves on the basis of usual seasonal

demands.

Further sales or redemptions of as much as

$300 million may be appropriate in late February and in

March.

The major policy question for the immediate future

is how much restriction should be placed on credit growth.

Actually the next two months should be a period of seasonal

credit contraction. Appraisal of the economic outlook

points to the strong likelihood of large and vigorous demands

for credit from various sources, which may diminish the size

of the seasonal decline. It is possible, however, that the

usual seasonal loan liquidation, together with the high

level of interest rates already attained, may result in at

least a temporary relaxation of pressures toward further

increases in rates. The trend in the stock market since

the upward spurt at the turn of the year indicates that

investors may not be so enamored of stocks as they have

been in the past. Savings may move in larger volume into

fixed interest securities and give strength to the bond

market.

It appears evident from December developments that

rising interest rates and limitations on reserve avail

ability will not prevent banks from meeting the essential

They will borrow if

credit needs of their customers.

necessary. Yet restrictive forces will probably be

necessary to induce healthy caution under the circumstances

that are in prospect.

If banks show any tendency to increase borrowings and

expand credit relative to the seasonal pattern, the dis

count rate should be raised. Perhaps it should be raised

A higher

as a precaution against such a development,

discount rate, accompanied by open market operations which

would assure an adequate though limited money supply, should

serve as a desirable deterrent to unsound credit commit

ments without preventing healthy growth. In view of the

current level of market interest rates, there may be a

question as to whether a rate of 4-1/2 per cent would be

high enough.

Mr.

Marget commented as follows with respect to the United States

balance of payments:

The broad picture I have been presenting on

developments with respect to our balance of payments

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has been essentially this: a long, sustained deterioration

from a peak surplus in 1956-57 to a low point which can be

taken as represented by the levels of exports and imports

prevailing from February to May of last year; and then,

beginning with June of last year, evidence of an underlying

improvement which, while it was certainly anything but

spectacular, gave reason to hope that, if the right policies

were followed, we should expect to attain, in time, the

necessary degree of balance in our international accounts.

But I have felt it necessary several times to warn against

the assumption that this adjustment which seems to have

been taking place has been proceeding "so rapidly and

certainly that we no longer have a balance-of-payments

problem, and that we therefore have no need to frame our

policies with reference to what is happening in that area."

The need for this kind of warning is illustrated by

the foreign trade figures that have become available since

the last meeting of this Committee--the trade figures for

November.

The figures are not good. On the import side,

to be sure, the news is not bad: November imports were

at the same average rate that prevailed during the six

months May to October, and customs collections in December

are such as to suggest another month of little

change in

the import level. But the export showing in November was

poor: instead of a continuation of the fairly steady

rise in the rate of exports that we have been witnessing

since last spring, the November export rate dropped sharply

to a level that was not much higher than it was last spring.

It would be quite wrong to conclude from this that the

adjustment which we believed we had been witnessing since

last spring was a snare and a delusion. In the first place,

past experience has shown that no great reliance should be

placed on the trade figures for any single month. Secondly,

there is reason to suspect that steel shortages had

something to do with the poor November export figures.

More than half the drop in exports, for example, was in

automobiles and machinery--sectors, that is, in which

steel shortages last November were hindering output.

Thirdly, our gold and dollar figures for December, while

incomplete, are such as to suggest a

they are still

distinct improvement in our over-all balance of payments

for that month.

The thing to say about the disappointing trade figures

for November, therefore, is not that they mark the beginning

of a reversal of the improvement in our balance of payments

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which began to be evidenced last spring, but that they

emphasize again how far this improvement will have to

go before we can feel comfortable about our position.

The relatively favorable gold and dollar figures for

the fourth quarter of last year, if our guesses are

correct, would suggest, to be sure, an over-all

balance-of-payments deficit at an annual rate con

siderably below the $4.5 billion, and even below the

$4 billion, figures that have been used within recent

months.

But the over-all deficit for 1959 is almost

certain to turn out to be still

about twice as large

as it was in the years before our balance-of-payments

position began to be a matter of national concern.

From that standpoint, the disappointing trade figures

for November had best be taken as a salutary reminder

of how long a road we still have ahead of us in the

field of balance-of-payments adjustment.

Chairman Martin suggested that during the go-around the

Presidents might wish to comment regarding the extent, if any, to

which it

appeared that borrowing at the discount window was being

used to supplement the capital of member banks.

Mr. Hayes then presented the following statement of his views

with respect to the business outlook and credit policy:

Settlement of the steel strike has removed the

uncertainty as to the availability of steel for the

economy, but there remains considerable uncertainty

as to the settlement's over-all inflationary effects,

including not only the future course of steel prices

but also wage and price consequences in other industries,

We cannot overlook the importance of public psychology,

and there is no doubt that the press and other public

comment have interpreted the settlement as inflationary.

On the other hand, we can find encouragement in the

fact that the increase in the average hourly wage cost

will be only about half as large as in the earlier

postwar agreements and will therefore be much closer

to the average annual rise in productivity in the

industry. The staggered effects of the various cost

increases may permit the industry to get through most

of this year without increasing prices, although I am

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inclined to think this may be overoptimistic.

But the

country has been alerted to the issues of wages, prices

and productivity, and it is possible that the settlement

may turn out to be an important first step toward break

ing the spiral of wage increases, even though this aim

has certainly not been fully achieved as yet.

In any case the path is now clear for further business

expansion, sparked by inventory rebuilding. Although the

full year' s rise in inventories may be only moderately above

the $5 billion increase of 1959, a sizable growth of in

ventories early this year will contrast sharply with the

record of virtually steady inventories in the fourth quarter

of 1959. It remains to be seen whether this temporary

influence will be supplemented later by a more lasting surge

of consumer spending and business investment in plant and

equipment.

With considerable slack still

available in the

way of excess plant capacity, it seems doubtful whether

sharp upward revisions in business capital spending will

develop.

To date there are no statistical indications of

such a surge. In the consumer area, much may depend on

future developments with respect to consumer credit, which

will bear watching in the coming months, both as to volume

and as to further liberalization of terms.

One moderating influence on aggregate spending will be

the substantial retirement of Federal debt in prospect for

the last four months of this fiscal year and perhaps for the

ensuing fiscal year. All in all, I think it is too early to

guess whether a real boom will develop in the coming months.

Of course we should welcome a moderate rate of further busi

ness expansion in view of the current existence of substantial

unused resources in the economy.

Wholesale prices, including sensitive commodity prices,

continue to show over-all stability, but on the other hand we

can look forward to a less helpful contribution from farm

prices as the year progresses--and consumer prices continue

to inch ahead.

In the credit area, all statistics point to continued

strong loan demand, and bank liquidity is being significantly

reduced. Pressure on the New York banks has been especially

These banks were forced to reduce investments by

severe.

22 per cent between late July and late November in order to

meet a 5 per cent increase in loans while at the same time

experiencing a 6 per cent loss of deposits. Undoubtedly the

severe loss of foreign time deposits was a major factor

making it increasingly difficult for the New York banks to

play their traditional role as leading business lenders,

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While loan-deposit ratios have risen throughout the country,

the increase in New York has been much faster than elsewhere

and the ratio now 69 per cent, is far above that of the rest

of the country.

With substantial legitimate business borrow

ing needs in view to support the prospective business

expansion, it seems clear to me that we ought to allow some

moderate growth in the money supply if we wish to avoid the

excessive pressure on interest rates that is likely to result

from exclusive reliance on increased velocity.

Presumably

this should be accomplished through open market operations

designed to reduce slightly the degree of pressure which we

have been maintaining on bank reserves.

The major question facing us at this time is what to do

about the discount rate--or perhaps the question really is

not whether to raise the rate, but when and by how much.

Obviously the spread between the discount rate and market

rates is enough to warrant action if only as an "adjustment"

to the market. We must of course be mindful of prospective

Treasury financing operations, which include today's bidding

on $1.5 billion of one-year bills

as well as the announcement

late in January of the major February refunding program.

A

strict

interpretation of our "even keel" policy might require

us to refrain from a rate change until after the February

refunding is out of the way, when there will be a fairly long

"free" period.

On the other hand, the current range of market

rates is already so high, and a discount rate change is so

widely expected, that it could be argued that a moderate

in the near future would not do any real

discount rate rise

damage from the Treasury's point of view.

Another factor bearing on our timing is the prospect that

the banks' prime rate may well be increased in the very near

future. While some bankers favor going slowly in the matter

of pressing for higher rates, in view of the fact that rates

are already high and profits quite satisfactory, the

probabilities seem to favor early action on the prime rate.

On several recent occasions discount rate moves have followed

shortly after prime rate changes, and I think it would be

unfortunate if this sequence should become traditional.

Generally speaking, I think it would be preferable for the

System to assume the leadership in interest rate changes.

One argument for delay is that we should avoid appearing

to react "automatically" to the steel settlement and thereby

seeming to stamp the settlement as clearly inflationary.

Such an interpretation might have special significance abroad.

Incidentally, rate increases are probably being considered in

the U.K. and other European countries, who may, in fact, be

With international

delaying action until a move is made here.

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funds now flowing more freely in response to comparative

rates than at any time since the twenties, rate changes

here and abroad may now take on an unfortunate "competi

tive" aspect. However, despite our position now as the

leading international money market, I feel that our

decision must be based primarily on domestic grounds.

With regard to amount, I don't believe a change of

more than 1/2 per cent should be considered at this time.

If the move is delayed till

late February, a 1 per cent

increase might then be warranted if market rates continue

to strengthen--but at present it would be too strong a

signal.

Our directors discussed this whole problem at length

last week.

Most of them believe that discount rate action

fairly soon is inevitable--but there was no disposition to

rush matters.

On the other hand there was considerable

reluctance to see the prime rate lead the discount rate

once more in the next advance.

On balance, I think I

would favor a 1/2 per cent increase this week or next week,

accompanied by a slight easing of open market pressure on

bank reserves; but I recognize that valid points may be

adduced in favor of delay and I am eager to hear how the

others around the table feel on this matter.

I believe the directive should be renewed without

change.

Once again, I would like to suggest that serious

consideration be given to the feasibility of stand-by

authority to impose consumer credit control so that we

shall not be caught short if real excesses should develop

in this sector.

Mr. Johns said that the continuing question in administration

of the discount function was whether member banks were using such credit

to supplement their capital and deposit structures.

Some Eighth District

banks, including some of the larger ones, pursued a policy of keeping

fully and even over-loaned and invested.

with Federal funds or otherwise in

resort to the discount window.

As long as they could cover

the market, there was only occasional

When such funds were not obtainable and

the banks were called upon to discharge their indebtedness to lenders,

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their only choice was to come to the Reserve Bank.

Early this month,

the St. Louis Bank's discounts reached an all-time high, occasioned

partly because banks had preferred to show no indebtedness in their

end-of-year statements.

In summary, to answer the question whether

funds obtained at the discount window were used to supplement some

member banks'

capital and deposit structures,

his answer would be in

the affirmative--as long as the Reserve Bank let them pursue such a

course, which generally was not very long.

Turning to monetary and credit policy, Mr. Johns said that

the responsibilities of the Federal Reserve seemed to call for per

mitting an increase in restraint in the near future.

This would come

automatically from a business boom unless the System undertook to

accommodate all of the credit demands that the boom would undoubtedly

generate.

Consumer and investment demands appeared likely to press

on capital limitations in many parts of the economic system and

inflationary tendencies were likely to be stronger in the immediate

future than in the immediate past.

Likewise, the balance-of-payments

situation continued to call for restraint.

During the past year the degree of monetary restraint exer

cised had involved keeping bank reserves and the quantity of money

practically constant.

Mr.

permitting bank reserves,

only slightly.

Johns suggested for the near future

credit, and deposits to rise, if

To avoid inflationary developments,

at all,

investments

should be financed out of savings and an increase in the rate of

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turnover of demand deposits.

Apparently velocity of money leveled

off in 1959 after midyear, but with the resumption of activity after

the steel strike it

seemed likely that velocity would again increase.

In view of the present strength of credit demands, he wondered whether

the greater danger was not in too little

Mr.

rather than too much restraint.

Johns then referred to the chart introduced by Mr.

Bryan

at the December 15 meeting showing the course of member bank reserves.

He agreed that there was a need for developing a means of giving

instruction to the Desk in quantitative rather than qualitative terms.

The concept of effective reserves seemed to him useful.

However,

whether the Committee wanted to keep the supply of reserves steady,

increase it,

or reduce it,

he would suggest total reserves as the

appropriate objective of monetary policy and that instructions to the

Desk be in

such terms.

This would reduce disproportionate emphasis

on net borrowed reserves and the feel of the market as guides to the

Desk.

Since the boom seemed strong and in a sense revived by

termination of the steel strike, Mr.

Johns felt that it

would be a

mistake to provide a stimulus by an expansion of bank reserves at

this time.

Therefore,

he would suggest that the Desk be instructed

to carry on operations during the period until the next Committee

meting with a view to bringing about roughly a seasonal decline in

total reserves.

He would not change the policy directive.

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Mr. Johns then turned to the question of the discount rate

and said he continued to feel that an increase was desirable.

As

Mr. Hayes had said, the questions of timing and amount were difficult.

Hoping that an adjustment of perhaps 1/2 per cent could be made

promptly, he found consolation in the memorandum dated January 11,

1960,

from the Board's Division of Research and Statistics (showing estimated

periods of Treasury financing during 1960) which suggested that the

traditional concept of the even-keel policy might appropriately be

altered this year.

He felt that serious consideration should be

given to a prompt change in the discount rate.

This might involve

action on the part of the St. Louis directors on January

14, effective

perhaps January 18, if the Board of Governors should see fit to go

along with that timing.

In saying this, he was aware that an increase

of 1/2 per cent probably was not enough, unless further action was to

be expected in the not too distant future.

However, he agreed with

Mr. Hayes that an increase of more than 1/2 per cent at this time

might be a stronger signal than the System ought to give, particularly

in view of the relatively short period between the current Treasury

financing and the expected date of announcement of the forthcoming

refunding.

If it were thought prudent to take all discount rate

action at one time, he would be willing to wait for a while and

then consider a full one per cent increase.

Mr. Bryan said that Sixth District conditions did not differ

sufficiently from those for the nation as a whole to warrant detailed

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comment.

On use of the discount window, he recalled having reported

at the December 15 meeting that there was disproportionate use of the

window in the Sixth District.

the past, it

While this had happened on occasion in

seemed more persistent now and had been running on for a

number of months.

It

seemed to be occasioned (1) by a slight run-off

of funds from the district, (2)

because loan expansion trends at com

mercial banks had been heavier than elsewhere, and (3) because district

banks,

generally speaking, had not liquidated investments as rapidly

as banks throughout the country as a whole.

He suspected that the

average maturity of portfolios of Sixth District banks was somewhat

longer than at banks of the nation generally.

As to whether banks

were using Federal Reserve credit as a substitute for capital or

depositors' funds, Mr. Bryan felt that the answer was clearly in the

affirmative in a number of cases.

There were banks that had borrowed

heavily and regularly, yet had bills in their portfolios and in some

cases could dispose of investments at little

loss.

After discussion

with the Reserve Bank's executive committee, he was asking for

repayment of the borrowings of those banks.

However, there were

other situations where the problem was more difficult.

These situa

tions related to banks with a run-off of deposits that were totally

illiquid in their investment accounts and were having a hard time

making adjustments in their loan accounts.

concerned was required to reduce its

In two cases, if

the bank

borrowings by selling investments,

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there would be a substantial diminution of capital because the loss

would be so great.

With borrowings at the Atlanta Bank running 15

per cent of total member bank borrowings throughout the System, the

discount window was proving difficult to administer.

Mr. Bryan said that he would like to see an increase in the

discount rate rather promptly and that he would be willing to ask

the Atlanta directors to lead off such a move.

As on two or three

other occasions in the past several years, he was even toying with

the idea of progressive discount rates to bring some recalcitrant

borrowers under restraint.

With reference to the steel settlement, Mr. Bryan commented

that there was a temptation to debate the question whether it

was

inflationary on the basis of the degree to which the terms of the

settlement were allied to the increase of productivity.

In his

judgment, any wage policy which transferred the entire benefits of

increased productivity to the employees was inflationary, at least

in the longer run.

Mr.

Bryan said that he would like to pursue the matter of

giving the Desk instructions in quantitative terms at some later

time, but he would not do so today.

Mr.

Bopp said that 224 member banks borrowed from the

Philadelphia Reserve Bank in 1959, more than in any year since the

early 1930s.

However, daily average borrowing of $42 million was

about the same as in

1955 and considerably less than averages of

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$68 million in 1956 and $66 million in 1957.

The Philadelphia Bank,

which in various years was in a position such as reported by Mr.

Bryan, had recently been fortunate not to be in such a position,

Borrowings were running about 5 per cent of the System total.

There

were a few problem banks, and on these the Reserve Bank had been

working with some insistence.

A few other banks had been borrowing

for longer periods than usual, but for understandable reasons.

For

example, in Lancaster County there was a recurring problem related

to tobacco and feeder cattle.

In another case a bank had held for

many years a substantial account that recently was withdrawn; it

would not appear that a bank should necessarily be prepared for such

a contingency.

Two banks perhaps had been using the discount window

in lieu of additional capital, and if one took into account borrow

ings from the Reserve Bank plus Federal funds transactions,

banks would have to be placed in this category.

Bank was working with those member banks,

However,

additional

the Reserve

and as a whole borrowing

seemed moderate relative to 1956 and 1957.

Mr.

Bopp said that Third District economic developments were

not such as to affect his recommendations on monetary and credit

policy.

He would favor continuing about the present degree of pressure

on bank reserves.

money supply,

The slow rate of increase in

recent months in the

adjusted for velocity, the tight mortgage market,

the

reluctance of banks to see their loan-to-deposit ratios go much

higher,

and the presistence of a relatively high unemployment rate

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indicated caution about moving to a significantly more restrictive

policy.

On the other hand, the persistent upward trend in prices,

other than of farm and food products, the absence of evidence that

high interest rates were causing a downward adjustment in plant and

equipment expenditure programs, indications that the bulk of unemploy

ment was frictional and structural, and the prospect that the steel

strike settlement would initiate an upsurge in business activity and

intensify price pressures all suggested that any significant easing

of restraint at this time would be inadvisable.

In weighing these

two sets of factors, Mr. Bopp found no strong evidence that present

policy was either too restrictive or too easy.

At this stage of the

upward phase of the cycle and in view of current optimistic expecta

tions, he believed the risk that any significant easing of credit

might contribute to another upward spiral of prices and the develop

ment of an unsustainable boom was greater than the risk that continua

tion of approximately the current degree of restraint would inhibit a

sustainable rate of growth of the economy.

The System should be alert,

however, to detect emerging evidence that credit was becoming so tight

that it

was retarding a sustainable rate of growth.

All things

considered, he would favor no change in the directive.

Mr. Bopp then commented that the discount rate presented

difficult questions relative to the timing and amount of any increase.

The wide disparity that had prevailed for some time between the

discount rate and short-term market rates indicated either that the

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discount rate was too low or that market rates were too high.

He

would not favor supplying funds to bring market rates down close

to the discount rate; instead he would favor moving the discount

rate up to closer alignment with current market rates.

However, on

the timing and the amount of increase that would be appropriate, he

was less certain.

The interval between completion of the current

Treasury financing and expected announcement of the terms of the

February refunding was less than two weeks.

This was hardly enough

time for the market fully to adjust to a rate increase before the

Treasury must consider the terms of the February refunding.

The

longer interval from the latter part of February through most of

March would be distinctly preferable from the standpoint of Treasury

financing.

As to the amount of increase, there was no evidence yet

as to whether settlement of the steel strike would set off a stable,

sustained expansion or a feverish, speculative boom.

An increase

now of at least 1/2 per cent would be warranted to bring the discount

rate into better alignment with market rates; however, an increase of

one per cent, which would be justified if

evidence of a boom should

emerge, would not be appropriate now in the absence of such evidence.

Should a speculative boom emerge, he would like to see a one per cent

increase as a sort of shock treatment to indicate that the Federal

Reserve was determined to use its powers to prevent inflation and

an unsustainable boom.

these possibilities,

Weighing the advantages and disadvantages of

he leaned toward no increase now in order that

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the System might be in better position for a one per cent increase

should evidence of a boom appear.

However,

he would not be opposed

to an increase of 1/2 per cent if the Manager of the Open Market

Account thought there was sufficient time for the market to adjust

to the increase before announcement of the terms of the February

refunding.

Mr. Fulton said that Fourth District member banks had been

borrowing considerably less than a proportionate amount of total

member bank borrowings, taking into account the size of the district.

The proportionate size of the district was around 10 per cent of the

total of the System, whereas borrowing had been only two to three

per cent of the System total.

The Reserve Bank had initiated

conversations with some member banks.

There was an inclination, he

felt, to use the discount window, if permitted, in order to augment

capital and to arbitrage the discount rate against rates on Treasury

bills or any short-term securities that would yield more than the

discount rate.

The Reserve Bank is watching that carefully.

Regardless of the size of the member bank concerned, the Reserve

Bank followed the practice of finding out why it

except when the borrowing was very temporary.

was borrowing,

The Reserve Bank

then initiated discussion with the member bank, and it

had been

quite successful in keeping the number of continuous borrowers down.

Turning to Fourth District economic developments, Mr. Fulton

said there was a general feeling of relief that the steel strike had

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been settled.

After discussing some of the developments that had

led to the strike settlement,

Mr.

Fulton

commented that the terms

were better than those accepted by the can companies and the

aluminum industry.

They would involve an increase of about 3.5

per cent of total payroll, but if

the terms of the aluminum settlement

had been applied the increase would have amounted to about 4.7 per

cent.

If the Kaiser formula had been applied, the mills, taking

into account the older mills, would have had an increase amounting

to about 5 per cent.

There was no letup in the demand for steel

and inventory building was going on apace.

Present production was

at an annual rate of about 140 million tons, but some industry

spokesmen felt that production for the year would be around 125 to

130 million tons, which would indicate a cutback later when the

pipelines for steel had been filled.

The outlook for profits and

prices depended to a considerable extent on the efficiency of the

employees.

Reports indicated that the mills had good cooperation

during November and December and that some production records were

broken; if

this continued, cost increases to the companies might

not be too great, for production would take up the slack.

However,

other costs entering into the price of steel would tend to reduce

profits.

For example,

one company reported a significant rise in

the cost of gas during the coming year.

Nevertheless, there was

no indication that the mills would cut back on their expansion and

improvement programs.

After commenting on one such anticipated

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program,

Mr.Fulton said it was claimed that foreign competition

was still great and that some foreign steel was obtained during

the strike on promise of future orders over a period of time.

At

the same time, it was reported that European users were taking all

of the cold-rolled steel available and it was expected that United

States mills would be able to ship this particular steel product to

Europe in quantity.

Mr. Fulton said the general tenor among businessmen was one

of considerable optimism for the first quarter of 1960.

Unemployment

was going down and employment was increasing, although it was asserted

that overtime would be used as an alternative to hiring additional

employees as long as it

was profitable to follow such a course.

Loan

demand was strong and persistent, and doubt was expressed that the

usual seasonal run-off would prevail.

The pressure for mortgage loans

was great; brokers were trying to obtain expanded lines and promises

of more funds.

Inventories were being financed from internal funds

to the extent possible, but bankers did not expect that those funds

would last too long.

Construction, department store sales, and in

fact the whole gamut of business in the Fourth District was high and

seemingly going higher.

All of this would add to inflationary

pressures.

In Mr. Fulton's opinion, it was appropriate that the discount

rate be raised at this time because of the current relationship between

that rate and short-term market rates.

He felt that such an increase

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had been discounted by the market to a substantial degree.

If

action were deferred, that might be a cause of unsettlement in

the market while a rate increase would not appear to be a surprise.

Accordingly, while he would not change the Committee's directive,

he would favor increasing the discount rate by 1/2 per cent now

regardless of the impending Treasury financing, feeling that this

would have a stabilizing rather than a disruptive effect.

He

recommended that the pressure on bank reserves be maintained in

about the same degree as during the past week, with net borrowed

reserves as near the $500 million level as could be reasonably

achieved.

Mr. King recalled that his standard comment at the past

several Committee meetings had been to the effect that System

monetary and credit policy was putting the economy under sub

stantial and desirable pressure.

proper statement.

He felt that this was still a

He did not believe that a constant increase

in restraint should be a major objective of System policy, and

the lack of growth of the money supply seemed clearly indicative

of the fact that System policy over the past year had produced a

substantial amount of restraint on the expansion of bank credit.

Tightness in the money market and restraint on expansion of

credit had reached a point where unsound credit commitments were

not likely to be made; it

screened carefully.

appeared that applications were being

Predictions apparently were unanimous to

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the effect that 1960 was likely to be a year of high activity,

and along with this no doubt would come additional inflationary

pressures.

Mr. King said he was not surprised to hear Mr. Bryan's

comments about the extent of member bank borrowing in the Sixth

District.

This seemed a natural consequence of a tight situation

in credit markets generally, and of the South being an area

experiencing more rapid industrial development than the country

as a whole.

Mr.

King agreed with Mr.

Thomas that a 1/2 per cent discount

rate increase at this time was not likely to accomplish great results,

and he would not recommend a change in the Committee directive at

present.

He found himself in agreement with Mr. Bopp's thinking on

both the directive and the discount rate.

Like Mr.

Bopp, he would

prefer to postpone action on the discount rate rather than to make

what amounted to a technical adjustment now and then follow in a

few weeks with another technical adjustment.

As he had commented

before, he believed frequent changes were more disturbing to the

public than one good dose of medicine when it

should be applied.

Accordingly, he would favor postponing discount rate action to

around the first

of March and, if

to move upward by one per cent.

an increase then seemed in

That statement was,

order,

of course,

subject to developments that might take place.

Mr.

Shepardson expressed agreement with Mr. Bryan's comment

regarding the inflationary aspect of recent wage settlements.

The

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idea that there was no inflationary effect if labor got no more

than the productivity increase seemed to him definitely a mistaken

concept.

There would be continuing inflationary aspects until such

time as there was a different allocation of the fruits of increased

productivity.

Mr. Shepardson said that the outlook in the country generally

appeared to be one of extreme optimism, one that was likely to be

stimulative of excessive developments.

In many areas, price changes

either were occurring or were on the verge of occurring.

Already

there had been advances in segments of the labor market that were

going to have their effect on prices.

It

seemed that the country

was going to be faced with growing inflationary pressures.

that reason, he considered it

For

highly important that the System stay

ahead of the game and through reasonable restraint try to curb

excessive enthusiasm before it

Mr.

Shepardson felt it

tive action at this time.

got to a point beyond control.

appropriate to consider more restric

From the standpoint of bank reserves,

the

System should try to recover the normal seasonal return flow of the

reserves that were put out during the fall.

What effect that would

have on net borrowed reserves would be determined by the way that

If

the economy reacted.

anticipated,

it

credit demands were not as great as

might result in

borrowed reserves.

If

some lowering of the level of net

the demand pressures were heavier,

mean a higher level of net borrowed reserves.

it

In any event,

might

the

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System should try to keep reserves at a level that would maintain

restraint during the next few weeks.

As to the discount rate, Mr.

Shepardson said he would prefer

that the System take the lead rather than follow.

There had been

much talk recently of an increase in the commercial bank prime rate.

There had been situations in the past where it

was desirable not to

take the lead, and to explain later discount rate action as a technical

adjustment.

In the present situation, however, it

appeared to him that

the System rather than making a technical adjustment,

ahead of a change in the prime rate.

increase was, of course,

should be moving

The amount of a discount rate

open to question.

His own inclination would

be to move up by 1/2 per cent, and fairly promptly.

continuing the existing directive; the System was still

He would favor

faced with

the problem of combating inflation and the present directive seemed

appropriate.

Mr. Robertson commented that he agreed with everything Mr.

Shepardson had said.

he considered it

policy.

At this particular stage of the business cycle,

incumbent upon the System to maintain a restrictive

Any easing would inevitably bring about expansion accompanied

by inflation, which would be followed in turn by painful readjustments.

At the same time, he had the feeling that the monetary and credit

policy followed in the recent past was beginning to bite as the

liquidity of the banking system was reduced.

In his view, the Com

mittee's policy was taking a bigger bite at the moment than he had

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thought would be likely not too long ago.

It was not taking too

big a bite; he would not advocate any lessening of restrictiveness.

However, it

effective,

appeared that System policy was beginning to be quite

and in this he was rather pleased.

Mr. Robertson said that Mr. Bopp had set forth well the pros

and cons as to the discount rate.

moving up step by step, that is,

He (Mr.

Robertson) leaned toward

1/2 per cent now,

and quickly.

Then,

if the situation called for an additional step later on, he would take

it.

There were times when an increase of one per cent should be the

action of the System, but as he saw it

today an increase of 1/2 per

cent might be the right amount to add now to the psychological

atmosphere in which business was being carried on.

He would not

recommend a change in the directive.

Mr. Mills said that in furtherance of the very thin line of

sentiment expressed in favor of lessening pressure on the reserve

position of member banks, he proposed to enlarge on the statement

that he made at the December 15, 1959, meeting of the Open Market

Committee, after which he would warn against an increase in the dis

count rate at this time.

Mr. Mills then presented the following

statement:

The opening of the year 1960 reveals the national

economy badly overextended creditwise and finds the

System's Open Market Committee faced with the necessity

of conducting a monetary and credit policy that will

prevent tautness in the credit markets from reaching

the breaking point and will allow enough credit

headroom to support stable and sustainable economic

growth. The rationale of such a policy argues that

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deflation is a more imminent danger than inflation, and

that if a severe deflation is to be avoided economic

momentum must be maintained through the invigorating

impulse of a reasonable flow of newly created commercial

bank credit into the economy. The objectives of this

program cannot be reached through a monetary and credit

policy whose primary purpose is to eradicate the assumed

evidences of inflationary pressures through restricting

the availability of commercial bank credit solely within

the narrow limitations of repayments on outstanding

credits and the proceeds of securities sold into the

hands of nonbank investors.

This kind of policy in all

likelihood will induce the very deflation, escape from

which should be sought after.

The rejection of a severely restrictive monetary and

credit policy demands the adoption of a policy of moderate

restraint over the expansion of commercial bank credit that

will allow sufficient leeway for the extension of some

volume of new credits that, in serving constructive economic

purposes, will at the same time foster an appropriate

complementary growth in the money supply. In the process

of conducting this kind of a policy, the backwash of

previous inflationary pressures can be expected to carry

over into the opening months of the year and to give the

illusion of inflationaly dangers that in all probability

will never materialize. Based on this expectation, a

policy of moderate restraint over the expansion of bank

credit is a sufficient safeguard against the possible

occurrence of tangible inflationary dangers, especially

as such a policy is strongly reinforced by the restriction

that is exerted over credit expansion by the heavily

In fact, the loan-to

loaned-up position of the banks.

deposit ratio of the commercial banks may now be

approaching a point that will deter their creation of

essential new credits, even though reserves are made

available to them for that purpose. Under such cir

cumstances, new reserves supplied by Federal Reserve

System policy actions are apt to largely find their way

into commercial bank investment in Treasury bills and

In that

other short-term U. S. Government securities.

event, any consequent softening of short-term interest

rates must not be taken as an indication of a weakening

effect of System monetary and credit policy demanding

remedial attention, but rather as a precautionary measure

taken at the initiative of the banks to partially relieve

the strain to which they are subjected by their heavy

loan and investment positions.

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With regard to the discount rate, Mr. Mills said that the

recent increase in the call loan rate in New York City, the dif

ferential between the discount rate and the yield on Treasury bills,

and the increase in rates on commercial paper and bankers' acceptances

all argued technically for an increase in the discount rate.

A case

might be made that such an increase would clear the air and set a

more favorable climate for the Treasury's various financing opera

tions.

On the other hand, although an increase in the discount rate

might produce the impressions mentioned, it was likely that on second

thought the financial community, particularly the commercial banks,

would logically and properly regard an increase as an official

announcement that tighter money could be expected to continue on an

accelerated basis and that it would be incumbent upon the System to

make the increased rate effective through its

open market actions.

The financial community might anticipate that the commercial banking

system would be subjected to the pressure of a high level of negative

free reserves.

Interpretations of that kind would come at a season

when the commercial banks customarily experience a shrinkage in

deposits and contraction in

loans.

In the face of that experience,

of which there was already evidence in

available statistics,

the

banks could properly and reasonably look forward to extreme difficulty

in

fulfilling

their credit obligations to the business community.

The business community and the economy would then be deprived of

sources of credit which must be in reasonable supply.

For these

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reasons Mr. Mills believed it

would be a serious error for the

Federal Reserve Banks to increase discount rates at the present

time.

With regard to the discount window, Mr. Mills said that

extreme care should be given not to confuse the purposes for which

borrowings were being sought.

In his guess, there were few instances

where borrowings were undertaken to scalp the differential between

the discount rate and higher yields obtainable on other loans and

investments.

His instinct told him that the greatest cause of the

high level of discounts in evidence at the present time was strain

on the banks, a strain they sought to alleviate by discounting at

the Federal Reserve Banks in order to maintain their normal function

ing.

Mr. Mills said that he wished again to propose the rewording

of the policy directive that he had submitted for consideration at

the two previous Committee meetings.

This would change clause (b)

so as to provide for "fostering sustainable economic growth and

expanding employment opportunities while guarding against inflationary

credit expansion."

Mr. Leedy said a few Tenth District banks had been using the

discount window in

substitution for capital.

One of the principal

offenders was a bank that had traditionally kept fully invested and

loaned up; some of its portfolio was under water, and it

chronic borrower.

was a

Another chronic borrower was a bank that had

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experienced rather phenomenal growth.

This bank had from time to

time been increasing its capital account, but the increase was not

keeping pace with loan demands.

A number of banks were borrowing

from the Reserve Bank for various reasons that could not be

generalized,

but not in substitution for their own capital. Some

banks in the cattle areas were unwilling to require liquidation of

cattle loans, and their borrowings remained high and constant.

Some

banks having a high rate of fluctuation in deposits from month to

month or during each month seemed unable to anticipate the extent of

those fluctuations with enough accuracy to avoid borrowing from the

Reserve Bank.

The Reserve Bank analyzed all such cases; where it

appeared that a member bank was not using the facilities of the

discount window as it

should, the Reserve Bank entered into discus

sion with the bank concerned.

Mr. Leedy said that with few exceptions, indicators for the

Tenth District economy were much the same as the national indicators.

He would not favor reducing the degree of pressure that System policy

at this

had been applying on bank reserves, nor would he increase it

time.

It

seemed to him the results that this policy had been

accomplishing were rather salutary.

felt that it

timing.

It

should be changed,

On the discount rate,

Mr. Leedy

but he was not certain as to the

seemed to him that a technical adjustment should be

made due to the levels of short-term market rates, and that increase

should be made as early as possible bearing in mind the Treasury's

financing program.

He did not subscribe to the view that the Reserve

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Banks should be thinking of a rate increase in excess of 1/2 per

cent at this time.

Sufficient steam might develop in the economy

later on to require some shock treatment, but as the situation

now existed it seemed to him that that kind of treatment was neither

necessary nor desirable.

If it developed later on that a larger

increase than 1/2 per cent was required, this would indicate that

in the System's judgment the country was on an inflationary spree

and it might have the repercussions that Mr. Hayes had indicated on

rates in other countries.

Mr. Leedy concluded by saying that he

would make no change in the directive at this time.

Mr. Allen presented the following statement with regard to

Seventh District developments:

The steel strike settlement is commonly interpreted

in our area as inflationary, and that attitude, whether

or not justified, has bullish overtones in itself. Our

friends in the steel industry continue to forecast pro

duction in the first half of 1960 at near capacity, or

around 70 million tons, and second half production at

60 million tons, or 130 million tons for the year com

pared with the 1955 record of 117 million tons.

A very large producer of construction and earth

moving equipment expects that its dealers will be "on

allocation" throughout 1960, a prospect based in part

on anticipated strong demand from abroad. Surprisingly

perhaps, producers of farm machinery expect 1960 sales

close to the 1959 figures despite the prospective further

decline in farm income.

Stocks of new automobiles, as stated in the staff

review, were 575,000 at December 31. The industry talks

of a new high for first quarter production of 2,250,000

cars. At the same time they say that they will probably

cut back production if and when inventories reach

1,00,000 cars.

If they hold to that view about cutting

back, and if they produce at the anticipated rate, sales

of cars will have to average 23,400 per selling day in

the first quarter, which would mean an inventory of

-371,000,000 cars on March 31. The daily rate of 16,4 6 3

cars for the last ten-day period in December was re

garded as disappointing; our friends in the industry

felt that the mix of cars in the hands of dealers

warranted a higher sales rate. The middle sales period

in January is regarded as important. If sales move up

to around 20,000 cars per day, the feeling about the

first quarter will be more assured.

Unemployment in Detroit is expected to drop below

100,000 in the first quarter. In March of 1959 it was

200,000, and in March of 1958 it was 250,000.

While complete retail trade estimates for December

are not available, it is certain that the rise in the

total will be dampened by the low automobile sales.

However, Seventh District department store sales were 5

per cent above the previous year, and Sears Roebuck, with

the biggest sales month in its history, was 6 per cent

above the previous December.

We have nothing to add to what the staff review reports

concerning the farm situation except that our people feel

that the prospective decline in hog production, mentioned in

the staff review, could mean hog prices next fall 20 per

cent above the prices of this past fall, which may result

in a smaller decline in net farm income than is generally

forecasted.

The final three weeks of 1959 were marked by strong

demands for bank credit in the Seventh District. Total

loans of our weekly reporting banks rose 5 per cent compared

with an increase of 3 per cent for all reporting banks in

the country. Nevertheless, for Chicago banks the ratio of

loans to deposits on December 30 was about the same as at

the 1957 peak, 58 per cent, and the ratios in Detroit and

Indianapolis were only 50 per cent,

To finance the loan expansion our weekly reporting

banks steadily liquidated Governments in December, and on

January 6 the six largest Chicago banks held only $63 mil

lion of Treasury bills--the smallest volume in two years.

While they doubtless wish to acquire early April maturities

in connection with the April 1 tax date, their current posi

tions make it probable that such acquisitions will come

more slowly and in smaller amounts than in some other years.

With respect to the discount window, Mr. Allen said he did not

feel that there had been any significant abuse in the Seventh District.

While there were problem banks, they were few in number.

During his

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tenure as President of the Chicago Bank, he had found that the problem

banks tended to be the same ones.

In 1959, 250 banks borrowed from the

Chicago Bank, slightly less than 1/4 of the member banks.

The volume

of borrowing was higher in amount, but he did not feel that there was

significant abuse of the discount window.

With regard to the discount rate, Mr. Allen said his personal

preference would be to make no change at this time but to be poised to

go from 4 to 5 per cent during the period from February 15 to April 1,

if

developments meantime should make the desirability of an increase

more apparent.

Although the present rate of 4 per cent was out of

line with other rates, an increase to 4-1/2 per cent would not elimi

nate the disparity.

He did not feel that the differential had produced

significant abuse at the discount window, at least in the Seventh

District.

Having stated his personal preference,

Mr. Allen noted that a

majority of those who had spoken thus far appeared to favor a prompt in

crease to 4-1/2 per cent, and he recognized the desirability of System

uniformity.

He was agreeable to recommending a 4-1/2 per cent rate,

and he believed the Chicago directors would go along,

particularly if

other Banks were taking that action at about the same time.

Mr. Allen said he would recommend no change in the policy

directive and he would favor continuing about the current degree of

restraint through open market operations until the next meeting of

the Committee.

In summary of the Ninth District situation at year end, Mr.

Deming said that bank deposits were off one per cent, loans were up

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11 per cent, and Government security holdings were down 11 per cent,

The banks were under considerable pressure during the greater part

of the year, particularly the second half.

The summer drought and

the steel strike had caused a loss of $400 million in district

personal income.

Putting it

another way,

the district's

gain in

income in 1959 was about half as large as that recorded for the nation

as a whole.

He foresaw that this spread between district and national

gains might continue for several months in the future.

As for the use of the discount window, Mr. Deming said he agreed

with Mr.

Mills'

analysis.

He felt that there was relatively little

scalping of the discount rate and that borrowing reflected largely the

degree of pressure on the banks.

He agreed with Mr. Allen that the

problem banks of today were mostly the same ones as two years ago,

and probably ten years ago.

member banks, and it

There had been conversations with some

had been necessary to get progressively tougher

with a few of them.

Mr.

Deming said he came out with the feeling that the discount

rate ought to be moved up now by 1/2 per cent.

He concurred in

Mr.

Leedy's view that the System should try to avoid shock treatments if

possible.

An increase in

market, and by people in

the rate at this time was expected by the

general, and that was what he thought ought

to be done rather than to wait and deliberately shock the economy at

a later date.

developments,

At the same time, influenced perhaps by Ninth District

he would dislike to see the Committee go further in

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terms of restrictiveness through open market operations.

he would favor easing a little

On balance,

the present level of restrictiveness.

He saw no reason to change the policy directive.

Mr. Mangels said that preliminary information as at the end

of 1959 indicated plusses in practically all categories of West Coast

production, except steel production and nonresidential construction.

For the year through November, awards for residential construction

increased about 24 per cent and the number of dwelling units increased

about 21 per cent, refuting statements that tight money had cut back

residential construction.

December showed increases in practically

all lines of business except construction.

Department store sales

for the Christmas week were 22 per cent above a year ago and for the

year the gain was a little

better than for the nation.

Copper pro

duction resumed during the last week of December but production was

not yet back to normal, pending settlement of some issues in labor

negotiations.

Steel production was about 92 per cent of capacity, with

two large producers in

excess of 100 per cent and Kaiser running at

about 78 per cent due to some technical difficulties.

Employment for

November was at an all-time high despite further cutbacks in aircraft

employment in California and Washington because of cancellation of

military orders for jet aircraft.

During the four weeks ending

December 30, reporting member bank loans increased about $250 million,

with increases in practically all loan categories.

crease,

The largest in

in business loans, was $92 million; of that, the greatest

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portion of the increase came in the week ending December 16 to make

corporate tax payments.

Demand deposits were up by about the same

amount as loans, while time deposits were up a little

year end, however,

more.

After

California banks had rather substantial withdrawals

from savings and time accounts reflecting shifts to savings and loan

associations that had now gone to a dividend rate of 4-1/2 per cent.

After three large associations announced such an increase some time

ago, others voluntarily or reluctantly followed suit.

It appeared

that savings and loan associations were somewhat overcommitted and

had had to cancel some commitments and increase borrowings at the

Home Loan Bank.

from 5 to 5-1/4

The San Francisco Home Loan Bank increased its rate

per cent on loans up to 2-1/2 years and from 5-1/2

to 5-3/4 per cent on loans in excess of 2-1/2 years.

Banks also lost

deposits when public treasurers and others put money into Treasury

bills.

San Francisco and Los Angeles banks reported that they had

never seen so many individuals buying bills.

The Federal funds market

was reported to be tight; district banks were about even on purchases

and sales but the amounts were nominal in relation to the usual volume.

Borrowings from the Reserve Bank had not increased significantly.

The

Reserve Bank assured San Francisco and Los Angeles member banks that

if the run-off of savings deposits was as extensive as estimated, the

discount window was open.

There were no particular problem banks as

far as the discount window was concerned, although he cited isolated

special instances of borrowings.

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Mr.

Mangels reported a general feeling throughout the district

that business would be booming for the next six months,

through the year.

perhaps on

Such exuberance ordinarily would be alarming, but

factors in the picture might have a dampening effect on what normally

would generate inflationary pressures.

For example, there was still

some excess productive capacity and an excess labor supply, and there

was rather general and aggressive competition from abroad.

There were

the indications of a balanced budget, and there also was an increasing

public feeling against any policies, public or private, that would

result in further inflation.

price changes,

Thus, while there would probably be

those changes might be rather moderate.

Mr. Mangels said he would not be inclined toward deliberate

action increasing restraint at this time.

Instead, he would let

natural credit demands for legitimate needs exert a further tightening

effect and perhaps offset part of it.

In the Twelfth District, banks

had been screening applications for credit thoroughly for some time,

and it

appeared that only legitimate applicants were getting credit.

Mr. Mangels felt

quite sure that the San Francisco Bank's

directors would go along with a recommendation for a change in the

discount rate at their meeting tomorrow, but he would be inclined

not to make such a recommendation now.

Action somewhere around

February 15 during an open period in the Treasury financing schedule

would perhaps be appropriate.

Committee directive.

He would not recommend a change in the

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Mr. Irons commented that this was a particularly difficult

time to form judgments.

It was true that everything pointed to

expansion, composed perhaps of some substantial inventory build-up,

deferred as a consequence of the steel strike, along with some real

growth and probably some speculation and possibly inflation.

The

situation in the money market seemed to point to a thin and possibly

a weak Government securities market, in which the rate structure had

already moved up substantially.

He did not know whether the present

rate structure was solid or whether it

still

reflected some of the

adjustments and tightness of the year end.

Turning to the Eleventh District, Mr.

Irons said that in the

last month there had been modest strengthening,

level for some period of time.

after a fairly flat

He anticipated further moderate growth

but believed that district activity would move upward at less than the

national average for a time.

The petroleum situation apparently was

not going to be a strong stimulant, defense contracts in the district

were mostly for aircraft, which had been cut back, and agricultural

prices were declining.

The situation as to member bank borrowing was not much dif

ferent from normal,

Mr, Irons said.

Borrowings were around 5 per

cent of the System total, about the usual percentage.

Four or five

banks would use the discount window continuously under almost any

circumstances if

the Reserve Bank would permit them to do it,

but

he did not feel that the general situation was much different from

what it

had been for several months.

As credit restraint and

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reserve pressures increased, some pressure at the discount window

was to be expected.

With respect to policy,

cautious.

Mr.

Irons said he would be a little

He would lean toward open market operations designed to

continue about the degree of restrictiveness that had prevailed.

If

he understood correctly, Mr. Hayes had suggested operations with a

little

deviation on the side of ease, and he (Mr.

Irons) also favored

leaning toward that side, in view of the uncertainties that had been

mentioned.

Not knowing whether the interest rate structure was solid,

and with the Treasury situation and the position of the Government

securities market to consider, he would prefer not to move on the

discount rate at this time even though a case could be made for a

technical adjustment.

There might be an increase in the prime rate,

but he did not feel that the System should necessarily base a decision

on action that might be taken on the prime rate.

To summarize, he

came out in his thinking on the side of maintaining through open

market operations about the present degree of pressure on bank

reserves, but he would not feel too badly if

there was a shade of

easing; he would leave the discount rate at its present level and

see what developments actually took place in the next few weeks, and

he would make no change in the Open Market policy directive.

Mr. Erickson said that recent First District statistics

continued to show progress, but in many classifications not as

strongly as the progress nationally.

During the first week of

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December,

district banks were net buyers of Federal funds, but in

the remaining weeks they were net sellers.

For the three weeks

ending January 6, average member bank borrowings were only $16 mil

lion, and last week average borrowings were only $11 million; this

was much lower than usual.

No evidence was seen of any banks scalping

the discount rate, and there were no problem banks.

Three smaller

banks had been borrowing for several reserve computation periods,

this was due to seasonal factors and agricultural obligations.

but

The

loan ratios of Boston banks had been averaging better than 60 per

cent recently.

Mr. Erickson felt that it

would be desirable to continue a

restrictive policy and to raise the discount rate at some time.

How

ever, after analyzing the pros and cons enumerated by Mr. Bopp, on

balance he would prefer to wait on the discount rate until after the

next meeting or the February meeting of the Committee before taking

action.

He would recommend no change in the directive.

Mr.

Erickson added that he was a participant in the morning

telephone calls during the past four weeks and that, in view of the

usual seasonal factors and some new factors which were in the picture,

he felt the Desk had handled the Account most skillfully.

He would

favor continuing the same degree of restraint, leaving latitude to

the Manager of the Account to make judgments based on his feel of the

market.

If

that led to net borrowed reserve levels slightly lower

than recently, this would not bother him.

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Mr. Szymczak said that on balance, after having listened

to all of the information presented at this meeting, he felt sure

there should be no change in the policy directive.

However, he

agreed with those who felt that reserve positions should be eased

somewhat,

without any change in basic policy.

As to the discount

rate, he noted that the interest rate structure had changed and that

the Treasury was in the market.

All things considered, it

was his

view that the rate situation might be helped by changing the discount

rate as soon as possible by 1/2 per cent.

Mr. Balderston said that he would favor continuing the current

degree of restraint for the reasons Mr.

Bopp had set forth.

Until

policy was modified, he felt that the directive should remain un

changed.

As to the discount rate, he would hold a change in abeyance

until after February 20.

At that time, if

an increase was appropriate,

he would make the increase a full one per cent.

These conclusions

were based on certain impressions which unfortunately he could not

substantiate with objective data.

Although the steel strike settle

ment was the focal point of public attention, it

was only one of a

number of inflationary labor settlements, including those in the

rubber, aluminum, and copper industries and the settlement with the

can companies.

deceptive.

Statistics at the moment seemed to him somewhat

The statement that steel prices were certain to rise

seemed a questionable one as long as the steel companies were

operating at capacity and were able to absorb overhead, as apparently

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they could during the next six months.

Furthermore, the inventory

build-up assumed to be going on was offset to the extent that manu

facturers at long last were able to ship out work in process which

had been held up because of the shortage of one or two parts.

Similarly, work-in-process inventories tended to be inflated over

the year end in the case of manufacturing companies selling consumer

durables because of the practice of forward billing.

They were forced

to hold in work-in-process items shipped out for the Christmas trade

until dealers disposed of them.

He assumed that the apparent ability

of corporations to finance inventories and capital expenditures from

internal funds would continue for a while, but not indefinitely.

was surprised that it

had continued as long as it had.

He

When the

time came that the companies must resort more heavily to the banks

and to the capital markets, the System should be prepared for a sharp

increase in

credit demand and to meet such an increase with vigor.

In saying this, he was suggesting a situation that might be ahead

but which was not here yet.

From the charts of estimated Treasury

financing periods prepared by the Board's staff, it

appeared that

there would be four open periods during the year ahead, each of about

a month's duration.

These would fall in March,

June, September, and

December, and the last one would not be of much use to the System.

The comments of the Presidents seemed to indicate that a change in

the discount rate during the next two weeks was not imperative and

could wait until February.

If the System were to wait until February,

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he supposed that the prime rate might then be 5-1/2 per cent, or

that it

would be raised shortly after the System acted on the

discount rate.

The six-month bill rate was already at

5 per cent;

this ought not be ignored by confining attention solely to the

three-month bills.

In the light of those factors, he felt that a

change in the discount rate of only 1/2 per cent would give an

impression to sophisticated observers that the System did not mean

business.

Chairman Martin commented that most of the time the Chairman

of the Board of Governors has a relatively simple role in matters such

as the discount rate because of the availability of a group of men in

the System who, with their associates, study the situation carefully

and offer the benefit of their judgment.

Chairman was not quite so simple today.

However, the role of the

It

seemed to him that the

System was not far from a turning point, and the discussion around

the table indicated how difficult a problem becomes when such a

point is

near.

For the past six or nine months, he had not seen

answers to the System's problems.

Now for the first time, as he said

at the December 15 meeting, he was beginning to be hopeful that a

solution was in the making.

He approached these problems without

any dogmatic point of view, but he wanted to take this opportunity

to explain what he conceived to be the role of the Chairman of the

Board in System operations.

He approached such matters with a

sense of humility, and he had no desire to be a dictator within

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the System or to assert leadership for leadership's sake alone.

However,

a particular responsibility is

for Presidential,

Congressional,

placed on the Chairman

and Treasury relationships.

This

did not mean that the other members of the Board and the Open Market

Committee might not be superior in

judgment or that under certain

circumstances they might not differ completely with the Chairman.

He solicited their advice even when he was of a different point of

view.

He had leaned over backward when dealing with the Committee

never to assert leadership unless he felt

it

essential, and then

with due regard to the fact that he might be in

error.

He had

initiated the procedure at Committee meetings according to which

the Chairman speaks last

rather than first.

he did not have convictions,

This was not because

but because he wished to have the best

judgments that he could get and avoid taking a firm position until

after hearing those judgments.

The Chairman then posed the question of the right thing to

do at the present time.

The fact that there was some doubt around

the table about the course of System policy caused him to lean in

different way than if

If,

there had been unanimity of opinion.

a

in

going around the table, he had found that to a man-or perhaps with

only one or two exceptions--the Committee was united,

forgotten his own point of view and gone along.

there was sufficient doubt about a judgment in

he might have

However,

because

an area of System

policy, and because he shared some of the doubts expressed,

he

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wished to say from the standpoint of Presidential, Congressional,

and Treasury relations--and without indicating in any sense that

the System should play politics-it seemed to him that it would be

wiser not to act on the discount rate at the present time and upset

the even-keel approach by jumping the gun on the Treasury financing,

payment for which would come due on the 15th of this month.

he would prefer to await developments,

Instead,

The Open Market Committee

presumably was to meet on January 26 and again on February 9.

It was

dangerous, he felt, to talk about what the System might do at some

point in the future.

In fact, he would feel a little

better at the

moment if the discount rate were moved immediately to 5 per cent

rather than to take action at this juncture which might lead to a

general market expectation that there would be a further increase of

1/2 per cent within a short period of time.

The Chairman again said if this group were united on moving

to 5 per cent at the present time, he would be disposed to go along

despite the factors about which he was now talking.

However, he

felt that the System would be running a serious risk that the antici

pated boom might not develop, in which event it

prematurely.

would have moved

The Chairman then noted from a statement on the news

ticker that had just been handed to him that the President had today

sent a message to the Congress renewing his plea for elimination of

the 4-1/4 per cent interest rate ceiling on Treasury bonds.

This was

the President's first special message to the Congress at this session,

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was something that he felt ought to be borne in mind.

He

recalled that last summer he had tried to the best of his ability

to determine what was politics and what was not in regard to the

thinking on money,

and he had found that there was a great deal of

misunderstanding.

Certainly the System ought not swerve from its

course when it

had come to a meeting of the minds, but he felt that

the System would be dissipating some of its resources if

juncture it

at this early

put itself in the position of leading the commercial banks

into an increase in the prime rate, much as he would like to see the

System move in advance of the banks.

If

in time, the Chairman said, forces in the economy made

action on the discount rate clearly appropriate,

the System would have

a responsibility to act promptly, effectively, and efficiently.

How

ever, his assessment of the present situation was that the market

would not be stabilized by a technical adjustment of the discount

rate to 4-1/2 per cent.

He felt that the System would come closer

to a permanently stabilizing effect for some period of time if the

rate were increased to 5 per cent.

judgment.

If

Of course, that was a matter of

the System waited for a limited period of time and

reappraised the situation, it

might be that it

the best move would be to go to 4-1/2 per cent.

would develop that

In any event, when

action was taken there ought to be no misunderstanding as to what

the System was doing, and no doubt that System action was out of the

way for the time being.

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In further comments regarding recent discussions that he had

had with the Secretary and Under Secretary of the Treasury, during

which he emphasized that neither of these individuals had indicated

in any way a desire to interfere with System policies or operations,

Chairman Martin said he had remarked to the Secretary yesterday that

as he understood it

sidered, if

the Secretary would be happier, all things con

the situation was not complicated at this juncture by a

premature move on the part of the System, and the Secretary had re

sponded that that was definitely his feeling.

In going over the

matter in his own mind last night, the Chairman concurred in that view.

As he had said, there had been no pressure of any kind from the Treasury,

but later in the year there might be real pressure from other quarters.

In his opinion the System should not throw away its ammunition need

lessly, or until it

at the moment.

knew more about the present picture than was known

He did not believe in rushing to abandon the even-keel

philosophy.

In conclusion, the Chairman said that to the best of his

ability he was trying to espouse the view that, with no change in

the directive, the System should postpone a decision on the discount

rate until some time in the period following the Treasury refunding,

at which time the System should not pull any punches necessary for

the performance of its

question, he noted,

role in fighting inflation.

The discount rate

could have been discussed separately within the

ranks of the Board of Governors, but he had chosen to put it

before

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this meeting, realizing that there might be differences of opinion.

There appeared to be enough differences of opinion at the present

time so that he would be loath to see any Reserve Bank move to 4-1/2

per cent in the next week or so, and to have the Board approve such

an increase.

Mr. Hayes commented that in advocating an early move on the

discount rate he had done so with some doubt in his mind, as indicated

by the statement that he was eager to know how others felt

matter.

on the

He was inclined to think that if and when a move was made,

it ought to be a move in which the System participated wholeheartedly

and more or less as a body.

He had respect for the Chairman's

appraisal of the intangible elements having to do with System relation

ships.

Therefore, he was inclined to go along with the Chairman's

thinking on the matter,

Chairman Martin then suggested further discussion, following

which Mr. Robertson inquired whether that comment related to the

discount rate only or also to open market policy.

Mr. Robertson

noted that in the latter respect there was also a division of opinion.

Chairman Martin said that there was a division of opinion as

to the degree of restraint to be sought through open market operations

but that he thought the consensus probably favored maintaining the

status quo.

Mr. Hayes inquired whether the consensus was not more in the

direction of going slightly on the side of ease, and the Chairman

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replied that he thought a vote if taken, might result in about an

even split.

Mr. Robertson said he would be willing to go along with the

procedure suggested by the Chairman on the discount rate, even though

personally he would have been inclined toward a different course.

On

open market operations, the decision appeared to him to be between

maintaining the status quo or easing off somewhat.

The Chairman then suggested going around the table for a

summary of views with respect to open market operations.

He turned

first to Mr. Johns and inquired whether the latter would favor going

somewhat on the tighter side.

Mr.

Johns said that he would, but not very much.

What he had

meant to suggest, he said, was that the System accommodate itself to

the seasonal movement.

Whether or not that would result in a tighter

situation would depend on the demand side.

As to the discount rate,

he was not unaffected by the doubts expressed around the table.

Mr. Bryan said, with regard to the discount rate, that he had

favored an increase partly because of the help that might be afforded

in dealing with member bank borrowing in the Sixth District.

If he

had spoken on open market operations, he would have expressed an

inclination to go a little

Mr.

on the side of ease, but not much.

Bopp said that he would favor maintaining the status quo,

following which Mr. Fulton said that he would like to recapture the

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firmness that seemed to have been lost in the early part of December.

Therefore,

he would favor being slightly tighter.

Mr. King favored maintaining the status quo but not being any

tighter.

He would attempt to avoid giving the impression that there

had been any change of policy.

He would leave the market alone as

far as that could be done, and reassess the situation later.

Mr.

Shepardson commented that if the System moved only as far

as to recapture the ordinary seasonal movement of reserves and if the

demand for credit was less than anticipated, this might mean a lower

ing of negative free reserves and perhaps a lowering of pressure.

If

demand was greater, however, there might be an increase of net borrowed

reserves and an increase in pressure.

The view that Mr. Thomas spelled

out in his statement set forth what he thought the Committee should try

to do.

On the matter of the discount rate, he was in favor of effec

tive action.

If

a large increase at some later time would appear to

represent more effective action than piecemeal increases, he would be

in favor of such a course.

Mr. Robertson said he would oppose any easing of restraint,

while Mr. Mills said he would favor easing.

Mr. Leedy said that his view was toward maintaining the status

quo.

As to the discount rate, he agreed that the Chairman had a

special responsibility in the areas that the Chairman had indicated.

With regard to the timing of a rate change, he felt that the Chairman

was better able than others to appraise what was presently involved.

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Mr. Allen said he would favor maintaining the status quo

in open market operations, while Mr. Deming favored a mild easing.

Mr. Deming also commented that the Minneapolis Bank's directors

probably would not want to lead on the discount rate.

Mr. Mangels agreed with waiting on the discount rate.

He

suggested letting natural forces of demand develop any tightening

of credit restraint, without deliberate tightening on the part of

the System but offsetting part of such tightening; therefore, a

slight easing would be acceptable to him.

Messrs.

Irons and Erickson expressed the view that the status

quo should be maintained through open market operations, the former

adding, however,

that he felt any deviations should be on the side

of ease, while Messrs. Hayes and Szymczak expressed themselves as

favoring a slight easing.

Mr.

Balderston favored maintaining the

status quo.

The Chairman then said that the consensus seemed to favor

maintaining the status quo.

He added that he doubted whether there

was any way that the Committee could measure the matter with suffi

cient preciseness to get away from that consensus.

Mr. Hayes commented that he had thought the Committee's

policy as stated in

the directive was expressed in

broad enough so that within it

ease.

terms which were

there could be a slight change toward

He noted that the Committee had approved the directive at

times in

the past subject to an understanding that deviations should

be either on the side of restraint or of ease.

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Chairman Martin agreed that this had been done at times,

but said that he questioned whether the Account Manager could

resolve questions of degree very well in terms of any policy di

rective that could be issued by the Committee,

There being no further comments, Chairman Martin said he

understood the consensus was to continue the present policy directive,

that the Account Manager should do the best he could to maintain the

status quo, and that the Manager should endeavor to conduct operations

in

such manner as to make it

occurred.

apparent that no change in policy had

He then inquired whether there was agreement with these

statements as representing the consensus.

There being no comment to the contrary, the Chairman then

inquired of Mr. Mills whether the latter would like to be recorded

on the broad question of monetary and credit policy in the same way

as in the minutes of the past several Committee meetings, with a

memorandum of his views included in the record.

Mr.

Mills replied in the affirmative, adding that since he

had proposed a change in

as voting "no"

the directive, he would like to be recorded

on continuing the present directive.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, the Committee voted, with

Mr. Mills voting "no," to direct the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York until

otherwise directed by the Committee:

(1) To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges

(including replacement of maturing securities, and

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allowing maturities to run off without replacement) for

the System Open Market Account in the open market or,

in the case of maturing securities, by direct exchange

with the Treasury, as may be necessary in the light of

current and prospective economic conditions and the

general credit situation of the country, with a view

(a) to relating the supply of funds in the market to

the needs of commerce and business, (b) to restraining

inflationary credit expansion in order to foster sustain

able economic growth and expanding employment opportuni

ties, and (c) to the practical administration of the

Account; provided that the aggregate amount of securities

held in the System Account (including commitments for the

purchase or sale of securities for the Account) at the

close of this date, other than special short-term

certificates of indebtedness purchased from time to time

for the temporary accommodation of the Treasury, shall

not be increased or decreased by more than $1 billion;

(2)

To purchase direct from the Treasury for the

account of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with

discretion, in cases where it seems desirable, to issue

participations to one or more Federal Reserve Banks) such

amounts of special short-term certificates of indebtedness

as may be necessary from time to time for the temporary

accommodation of the Treasury; provided that the total

amount of such certificates held at any one time by the

Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in the aggregate

$500 million.

Chairman Martin said he would propose that the Open Market

Committee meet on January 26 and February 9, 1960,

with the organiza

tion meeting following on March 1, 1960, and no objection was

indicated to this proposed schedule of meetings.

Chairman Martin then commented that the Open Market Committee,

in

connection with the annual organization meeting,

at operating procedures.

now,

He felt

would be looking

that the Committee ought to start

when there was no real pressure, to consider any possible

changes in

its

operating techniques.

This seemed an appropriate

time to see whether the Committee wanted to make any such changes in

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its operating procedures, which would include consideration of

the "bills only" policy.

In this connection, he referred to

questions likely to arise in the course of time relating to the

2-1/2 per cent bonds of 1961.

The Chairman then suggested asking Messrs.

Young,

Thomas,

and Rouse to review these matters and give the Committee,

at the

earliest opportunity,

material that would afford a basis for discus

sion.

In the absence of objection, Messrs. Young,

Thomas,

and Rouse

were requested to consider the matters mentioned by the Chairman.

Chairman Martin then turned to a memorandum from Mr. Young

on an information program for the Government securities market which

had been distributed under date of January 7,

noted that at its

meeting on October 13,

1960.

The memorandum

1959, the Committee requested

the staff to bring forward a specific program, under Treasury-Federal

Reserve auspices,

for the collection and publication of information

about the Government securities market,

this assignment it

and that in

carrying out

had seemed appropriate to work through the

steering group and associated staff of the Government securities

market study.

The report of that group, dated January 5, 1960, was

attached to the memorandum.

The proposed program would continue

responsibility for surveys of ownership of Government securities in

the Treasury and responsibility for statistics relating to market

operations in the Federal Reserve.

Accordingly, the Treasury

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participants in the report had not shared in the administrative

recommendations pertaining to the System's responsibility, except

insofar as it

impinged on Treasury debt management responsibilities.

In putting the statistical program into effect, various unforseeable

problems were considered likely to develop, for example, with regard

to schedule content, and it was suggested that the Committee delegate

to the staff authority for resolving these technical problems without

referring them back for Committee consideration.

Those associated

in the preparation of the report included Messrs. Young, Koch, and

Keir of the Board's staff, Messrs. Larkin and Roosa of the New York

Bank, and Messrs. Mayo and Saunders of the Treasury.

Submitted with

the memorandum and report was a draft of letter, to be signed by the

Secretary of the Treasury and the Chairman of the Federal Open Market

Committee and to be sent to all potential respondents,

outlining the

new program and indicating that full collaboration was anticipated.

In commenting on the matter, Chairman Martin noted that the

planning group had tried to achieve four basic things in this program.

The first was to enlarge the factual base available daily for System

open market operations and Treasury debt management.

The second was

to provide adequate information to meet potential Congressional

requests.

The third was to provide a flow of current information

for public uses, and the fourth was to do these things in such a way

as to protect the confidentiality of individual dealer reports and

at the same time avoid any market criticism of System operating

officers.

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Chairman Martin commented that the report had not come out

with all

of the answers but that the program, which resulted from

negotiation with the Treasury and the Desk, appeared on the whole to

be one that should be carried forward.

The Chairman then stated that

he would like to have the views of Messrs.

Mr.

job, in

Hayes and Rouse.

Hayes said he agreed that Mr. Young had done a splendid

cooperation with the Treasury and the staffs of the Board

and the New York Bank,

On the whole,

constructive and needed one.

the proposed program was a

The only part on which he had serious

doubts involved the question whether it

was wise to cut off the Desk

from information on individual dealer data.

that the more the Desk knew,

He had felt

the more effective a job it

generally

could do.

Recognizing differences of viewpoint on this phase of the matter,

he suggested that the program be given a fair trial.

He added that

he and the Desk and everyone else at the New York Bank would be willing

to give it

a fair trial.

Mr. Rouse agreed that the report represented an excellent

job in most ways.

However,

he wished to make a statement so that

the Committee might have before it

his point of view on the matter

to which Mr. Hayes had just made reference.

Mr. Rouse then read

the following statement:

There are just a few comments that I would like to

It certainly

make in connection with this program.

constitutes a major step in the development of informa

tion in an area where the public interest is deeply

When the program reaches a point where

involved.

publication of data covering activity in the Government

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securities market becomes a reality, it should make for

a more informed public and may even lead to a better

public understanding of the relationship between monetary

policy and the market.

This information program is the

most urgent of the suggestions that developed out of the

Treasury-Federal Reserve Study.

However, the program contains unnecessary restrictions

on the availability of data to the Management of the System

Open Market Account.

Up to this time, the data on the

operations of individual dealer firms has been available to

the Management and this information has been helpful to it

in making a general appraisal of the market and in dis

charging its responsibilities to the Committee.

I wish to

point out that under this new program the Manager is denied

access to individual dealer data except under particular

conditions, and that only information on the aggregate of

dealer operations would be available to him.

Ordinarily,

these aggregate data would be sufficient to form an over-all

appraisal of market conditions.

Yet there are, and have been,

many occasions when it has been necessary to go beyond the

data covering all dealers as a group and to review the

operations of individual dealers for the purpose of interpret

ing and evaluating the significance of the aggregative data.

Dealer operations in terms of both the aggregate and of

individual dealer firms also have an important bearing on

Treasury financing--before, during, and after.

To deprive

the Committee and the Secretary of the Treasury and their

of any of the information collected from dealers

staffs

on a regular basis is an unnecessary limitation on the use

The people in authority having a public

of the data.

responsibility have an obligation to be as well informed as

This means getting to know the

possible about the market.

whole market and it would embrace an understanding of

behavior patterns and individual dealer performance through

continuous day-to-day contact with dealers and the data

The data on operations of

covering their operations.

individual dealer firms is particularly important--indeed,

it is essential--in administering the repurchase agreement

arrangements at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

While the new information program makes special allowance

for the availability of certain data on individual dealers

in connection with the use of repurchase agreements, it

does not go far enough. In effect, the total information

covering individual dealer operations that has been avail

able to the Manager for many years will be sharply reduced

under this program, even though that information will

Whether we like it

continue to be collected from dealers.

is a personalized

market

securities

Government

or not the

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market. That is, it is a market in which a number of

highly individualistic personalities play a crucial

part, and it is this characteristic that prompts this

comment on my part. I hope the time will arrive when

the market will be large enough so that no one or two

personalities at any one time can dominate it.

When

that time comes the use of aggregate figures may be

sufficient.

If the Committee concludes that individual

dealer data should be denied the Desk on a trial basis,

we will of course do our best to operate effectively

under the proposed limitation.

In my experience the current information available

on the financial standing of dealer firms has been adequate.

I question the need, as set forth in the proposal, for

obtaining formal income statements from dealers and I also

have reservations concerning the need for balance sheet

information as often as four times a year.

I have one final comment to make. It has to do with

the protection of the confidentiality of individual dealer

positions and the need for an appropriate time lag between

current dealer reports and their date of publication, even

in aggregate form. The paper submitted to the Committee

covers this point, but I would like to emphasize here for

the benefit of the group that will carry out your instruc

tions the importance of having an adequate time lag between

current dealer operations and their release for public

consumption.

Some of my comments have been covered in greater detail

in a paper on this subject prepared in November of last year

by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, primarily as an

aide memoire for Mr. Young's group. If any of you would be

interested in receiving that paper, I would be glad to

forward copies.

I would like to suggest that Mr. Young's group continue

its work, looking to recommendations to the Federal Open

Market Committee and the Treasury arising out of the addi

tional matters uncovered by their Study and also some of

the technical points that were raised. These latter points

include, for example, extending maturity of securities

eligible for Federal Reserve repurchase agreement, reverse

repurchase agreements, lending of System securities to

dealers, swaps, and the confidentiality of dealings with

the Federal Reserve System. While most of these suggestions

are primarily related to the operations at the direction of

this Committee, they hold an interest for the Treasury as

well in that it is primarily responsible for the market for

its own securities.

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Chairman Martin suggested that Mr. Rouse send to all of the

Committee members and other Presidents, without specific request,

the paper of the New York Bank to which he had referred.

The Chair

man then proposed that the Committee adopt the program suggested by

the planning group and review it

some time in the course of the next

three months.

No objections to this proposal were heard, and the Chairman

then said that the matter would proceed on the basis he had suggested.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday, January 26, 1960, at 10:00 am.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1960, January 11). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19600112
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19600112,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1960},
  month = {Jan},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19600112},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}