fomc minutes · January 23, 1961

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in the

offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in

Washington on Tuesday, January 24, 1961, at 10:00 a.m.

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Balderston

Bopp

Bryan

Fulton

King

Mr. Leedy

Mr.

Mills

Mr. Robertson

Mr. Shepardson

Mr.

Szymczak

Messrs. Treiber, Leach, Allen, Irons, and Mangels,

Alternate Members of the Federal Open Market

Committee

Messrs. Erickson, Johns, and Deming, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, St. Louis,

and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Young, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Thomas, Economist

Messrs. Brandt, Eastburn, Hostetler, Marget,

Noyes, and Tow, Associate Economists

Mr. Rouse, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Koch, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Messrs. Garfield and Williams, Associate Advisers,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board of

Governors

Mr. Knipe, Consultant to the Chairman, Board of

Governors

Mr. Yager, Economist, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Petersen, Special Assistant, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

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Mr. Wayne, First Vice President, Federal Reserve

Bank of Richmond

Messrs. Ellis, Mitchell, Parsons, Coldwell, and

Einzig, Vice Presidents of the Federal Reserve

Banks of Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, Dallas,

and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Garvy, Adviser, Federal Reserve Bank of New

York

Mr. Holmes, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Grossman, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank of

St. Louis

Upon motion duly made and seconded, and

by unanimous vote, the minutes of the meeting

of the Federal Open Market Committee held on

December 13, 1960, were approved unanimously.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members of

the Committee a report of open market operations covering the period

January 10 through January 23, 1961.

A copy has been placed in the files

of the Committee.

Supplementing the written report, Mr. Rouse commented as follows:

I should like to point out that because of the short inter

val since the last meeting of the Committee, we have not

prepared the usual detailed report covering this period. The

regular weekly report which was mailed to you on Friday covers

most of the period in detail and the summary report just placed

in your hands covers the highlights of the full period, and the

last three days in some detail. We expect to follow this same

procedure for the two-week period through the next meeting.

Since the last meeting, the money market has been

generally easy, although the bulge in float over the past week

end has created an abnormally easy situation for this statement

week. The level of reserves seems to have been reasonably

satisfactory, being above the averages for December.

Treasury bill

rates remained in the same general range as

in previous periods, although downward pressures developed at

times, particularly in recent days. The dealer market is

becoming aware of a resistance point around 2.20 per cent for

91-day bills and until yesterday there had not been sufficient

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buying, bank or otherwise, to push through that rate. The

strongest downward pressure developed yesterday before the

auction when last week's bills reached 2.18 per cent bid. The

bidding in the auction, which centered around 2.23 per cent,

was aggressive in that the rate was 1/8 per cent lower than a

week ago. At the close last night, last week's bills were

quoted 2.16 - 2.13. In view of this pressure, reflecting as

it did the very large amount of excess reserves accumulated

over the week end, the System Account sold $75.5 million of

Treasury bills and other short-term issues, as well as $33.5

million of Treasury bills to foreign accounts. Other System

action during the two-week period was confined to making

moderate amounts of repurchase agreements which subsequently

matured, and selling Treasury bills

to foreign accounts. The

Treasury's action in increasing the amounts offered in its

weekly bill

auctions by $100 million last week and by $200

million this week was also helpful in keeping the lid on the

Treasury bill

market.

The Committee will recall that some

weeks ago Mr. Thomas remarked that if free reserves were to

be maintained at $500-600 million, a decline in bill rates

below 2 per cent was inevitable. I think we all agreed with

this statement, barring variations in supply-demand factors,

psychological influences, and operations in other short-term

securities. We have been fortunate in these respects. How

ever, based on our projections the System Account will have

to enter the market as a buyer before the next meeting of

this Committee, putting additional pressure on the market

and almost assuring a decline in rates such as Mr. Thomas

mentioned. We can try to avoid such a decline by buying other

than three-month Treasury bills, but it may turn out that the

choice will have to be between a bill rate below 2 per cent

or lower levels of free reserves.

The reduction in the discount rate at the Deutsche

Bundesbank from 4 per cent to 3-1/2 per cent is encouraging

as an indication of further support to the United States

balance-of-payments position. Apparently as one result, the

British Treasury bill

was reduced to about 4.09 per cent

before the week end, so that the spread in favor of those

bills, with exchange risk covered, remains around 1 per cent

despite the decline in U. S. Treasury bills. The long-term

market for Government securities showed a mild spurt in

reaction to the German move, but this market continues to be

sluggish and cautious, in view of the same factors that have

affected it

for some time,

i.e., expectations for a business

pickup in the near future, uncertainties over the inter

national situation, and uncertainties as to the policies to be

pursued by the new Adminstration.

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The next Treasury financing operation will be the

refunding of the February 15 maturity of $6.9 billion 4-7/8

per cent certificates, of which the System owns about $3.6

billion. The initial question is whether the Treasury

should refund through the normal exchange operation or adopt

a cash refunding plan such as was last used in July 1960.

One of the main objectives of the cash refunding technique

is to enable the Treasury to curb speculative excesses in

connection with refundings.

There seems to be no need for

protective measures of this kind at the present time, and

it was evident last July that there were same serious

objections to the cash refunding technique on the ground

that it did not give regular holders of the short-term debt

a fair opportunity to roll over through an exchange.

However,

there is something to be said for using the cash method

occasionally just to keep the market alert to this possibility

and to keep the "rights" value out of short-term rates. At

the moment, the maturing February issue is traded without

any significant premium for "rights" value, indicating that

the market is waiting to see what the Treasury will do.

Although the market is not buoyant, the Treasury should not

encounter undue difficulty with this refunding.

In response to a question, Mr. Rouse said that dealer awards in

yesterday's Treasury bill

auction were about normal.

continued to be very high, however.

Dealer positions

In this connection, he called

attention to certain charts, attached to the report on open market

operations distributed before this meeting, which related to dealer

positions and money market rates.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the open market transactions

during the period January 10, 1961, through

January 23, 1961, were approved, ratified,

and confirmed.

The economic review at this meeting consisted of a visual

auditory presentation,

in which Messrs.

Noyes, Marget, Williams, Garfield,

Koch, and Young participated.1/

The presentation, which highlighted

developments of the year 1960, contained sections on the balance of

payments,

changing demands for goods and services, the effects of

changing private and governmental demands on industrial activity and

prices, and financial developments.

The concluding portion of the

presentation was as follows:

The aim of this morning's presentation has been simply to

review the principal facts relating to economic developments

in 1960. We have not tried to fit these facts into any theory

of business cycles or of growth; nor have we attempted to

assess the prospective impact of fiscal, monetary, or other

Government policies on economic developments.

In concluding

the presentation, we shall not attempt an advance review of

1961 or any analysis of alternative policies with regard to

the problems which the country now faces.

Nevertheless, still

holding to the spirit of the presentation, we can make a few

observations which may be of some help in thinking about the

implications of the present situation for the future.

The situation at the beginning of 1961, it is evident, is

quite different from that at the beginning of 1960, different

enough to make it clear that changes during 1961 will differ

widely from those of 1960. In particular, the $15 billion

shift from rapid inventory accumulation at the beginning of

1960 to liquidation at the end of the year will not be repeated.

While liquidation may be faster for a time than the estimated

$4 billion rate of the fourth quarter, any further downward

pressure from this source will be relatively small. At some

point, moreover, inventory liquidation will stop and if past

experience is any guide this point should come sometime in the

not too distant future.

On the other hand, net exports are

now at a sharply advanced rate and may turn down sometime in

1961. It will be important that no accentuation of the

existing balance-of-payments problem result from this develop

ment. To avoid such a result will call for determined efforts

to restore full confidence in the dollar.

The course of final domestic demands suggested by recent

developments varies from continuing increases for State and

local governments similar to those in 1960 to declines, at

least early in the year, for plant and equipment. The actual

balance of all changes in domestic final demands of government,

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Messrs. Garfield and Williams withdrew from the meeting at the

conclusion of the economic presentation.

business, and consumers will largely determine how soon the

decline in activity will end, how soon thereafter recovery

will begin, and how far the recovery will go.

It will be recalled that in 1958 recovery began immedi

ately after the decline ended whereas in 1954 the end of the

decline was followed by about six months of little

change.

One feature of developments in 1954 was a continuing

decline in defense outlays to a new level lower than that

prevailing before the end of the Korean War in mid-1953.

Basic questions concerning the underlying strength of

demands in relation to available resources have been raised

by several developments.

A year ago, even though inventories

were being accumulated at a near-record rate, unemployment

did not fall to as low a level as in 1957 or 1953; the lowest

rate was just below 5 per cent as compared with less than

4 per cent in 1957 and less than 2-3/4 per cent in 1953.

Again, the downturn started sooner this time, and it

started before inventories had reached as high a level in

relation to sales as in 1957.

In the housing field, vacancies have been risingalthough the latest report shows no further increase--and

observers are wondering whether present demand conditions

will facilitate a recovery in housing starts as in 1958-59

and 1954-55.

Similarly, with plant capacity greater in relation to

demand than earlier in the postwar period, can plant and equip

ment outlays be expected to stop declining soon and advance

to higher levels than in the past? The answers to such

questions are not simple; recent capital outlays, for example,

have been much more for modernization than for plant expansion

and the level of outlays for improving techniques of production

and developing new products has reached a new high.

Study of any one of these problems reveals many inter

relationships and many connections with the past, some with

the past at least back to the war period. The present U. S.

balance-of-payments problem, for example, is a sequel to a

set of balance-of-payments problems successfully resolved

by our trading partners abroad, partly through the new

American policies embodied in the Marshall Plan and partly by

a decade and a half of rebuilding and stabilization undertaken

by the war-torn countries themselves.

The present easier

supply situation, with substantially reduced expectations of

inflation in this country, has also come about over a long

period. Recognizing that many uncertainties must be

dissolved as the future takes its shape, the staff presentation

today has focused on the facts of the present and the recent

past in order to throw some light on possible developments

over the year ahead.

It was understood that a copy of the text of the economic review

and the accompanying charts would be placed in the files of the Committee

and that copies would be sent to the members of the Committee and the

Reserve Bank Presidents not currently serving on the Committee.

Mr. Hayes then presented the following statement of his views on

the business outlook and credit policy:

Such additional business statistics as have become

available in the last two weeks point to a continuing decline

in activity, with no evidence that the bottom has yet been

reached.

Of particular concern is the further rise in seasonally

adjusted unemployment to nearly 7 per cent in December, and the

seasonal peak in joblessness in absolute terms still

lies ahead.

December developments included not only widely diffused declines

in employment and industrial production but also further weakening

in personal income and retail sales, besides a sharp drop in

new housing starts which may have been partly attributable to

unusually bad weather.

Among the few brighter spots now discernible are the con

tinued strong export surplus, indications of greater availability

of mortgage money, which might have a favorable effect on

housing trends, slight signs of improvement in steel production

and orders, and the fact that business confidence is apparently

holding reasonably high. There seems to be no evidence that the

business decline has been feeding on itself to an alarming

extent, with the principal downward pressure still

apparently

coming from inventory cutbacks.

As for credit developments, there is increasing evidence

that monetary ease is making a contribution to cushioning the

business decline and facilitating--though not sparking--a new

advance.

Commercial bank credit rose by a record amount in

December, reflecting strength in both loans and investments; and

the total rise in bank credit for the full year, attributable

mainly to heavy acquisition of Government securities by banks

during the second half, was far higher than in most recent years,

although far below the 1958 gain. Bank liquidity improved

considerably in December and for the full year--in New York as

well as outside of New York. While loan-deposit ratios are

still

relatively high by historical standards, they have

improved somewhat. The improvement may be greater than the

index indicates, for included in the loans are increased

holdings of relatively liquid dealer loans.

Total and nonborrowed reserves showed gratifying gains

from the early 1960 lows through the end of the year. In

contrast with the sluggish recovery of the money supply proper,

total nonbank liquid assets have risen at the annual rate of

3-1/2 per cent since the May trough--a rate almost equal to the

average annual increase of the last decade.

Despite the highly favorable foreign trade situation, the

balance-of-payments deficit and the outflow of gold have

continued at disturbingly high levels. While the London gold

price dropped sharply after the issuance of the Presidential

order prohibiting United States citizens from holding gold

abroad, it is clear that there is still

a good deal of

nervousness about the dollar in European financial markets.

Thus, we cannot indulge in any relaxation of our intense

concern over this sensitive area.

In the current setting, and for the next two weeks, it

would appear that the System would have little

choice but to

pursue the present policy of "keeping steady in the boat."

Bearing in mind the weak business picture, which calls for

monetary ease, but also the balance-of-payments problem--and

the important need to give the new Administration at least a

breathing space to clarify its position and program on this

and other major economic issues, I believe our open market

policy should continue to aim at providing the banking system

with ample reserves but not flooding it with reserves to the

extent that short-term rates would be pushed lower. In fact

I would think it of overriding importance, with respect to

immediate policy objectives, that short-term market rates, and

especially the three-month bill

rate, be maintained at or above

the general level prevailing in the last couple of weeks.

I

think it is very important also to hold the line on the discount

rate, especially as the German central bank has just demon

strated its desire to cooperate by cutting its own bank rate

in an effort to narrow the rate differential. During my recent

trip to Basle, many of the central bankers expressed the

fervent hope that this country would not undermine this spirit

of cooperation in the delicate payment situation by allowing

our own rates to drop at the same time.

I see no need to change the Committee's directive at this

time.

While the immediate policy problem for the next two weeks

does not seem too difficult, I hope that the Committee will

be giving careful attention to some of the broader questionslong term in their implications, but highly relevant to the

United States economy in 1961--concerning the role of the

central bank in influencing the entire interest rate structurebesides the availability of bank reserves--in carrying out its

broad responsibilities in promoting the sound growth of the

economy. Certainly, in an economy striving to realize its

potential in fuller measure, a good deal of attention must be

given to the cost and availability of long-term funds. At

the same time it seems quite possible that in the future we

may be faced more frequently with a situation in which

business fluctuations in this country are out of phase with

those in the principal countries abroad, and in which interest

rate differentials and attendant short-term capital flows are

a problem. All of this suggests that the Federal Reserve

System should demonstrate a willingness to be highly flexible

in the development and application of its techniques for

influencing credit flows and liquidity. There is always a

risk that Treasury debt management may be assigned the role

of stepping into a breach that the System has failed to fill,

with consequences that might aggravate future problems of

the System and the Treasury.

Decisions by the new Administration in the area of fiscal

policy will, of course, have an important bearing on our own

problems and policies. While the Government's approach in

this area seems commendably cautious, there is always a

possibility that new fiscal measures could create an exces

sively large deficit, with consequent difficulties in the

monetary sphere. I am sure we shall all follow with interest

the proposals for greater flexibility of fiscal policy through

variable tax rates, with the attendant possibility of a greater

measure of coordination between fiscal and monetary policies.

This is a time when readiness for experimentation seems

to be "in the air." I would hope that the System, without

abandoning any of its basic principles or objectives, could

demonstrate that its policies and practices have not become

frozen but can be adapted to meet changing needs.

Mr. Johns said that there appeared to be no significant dif

ferences between the state of business and economic activity in the

Eighth District and in the country as a whole.

Because of the

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diversification of business in the area, the District usually tended

to be not quite as sensitive to fluctuations and changes in economic

activity as the nation generally.

However, at least in the metropolitan

and other highly industrialized areas, this did not seem to be the case

at the present time.

In those parts of the District where agriculture

is the predominant influence, people appeared to be feeling rather good,

except, of course, for the automobile dealers.

good, and it

Last year's crops were

was far too early to make any kind of guess about this

year's crops.

On the other hand, even in the smaller communities where

industrial plants were located, there was a good deal of concern about

slack conditions and unemployment, which was reflected in retail

activities and otherwise.

In St. Louis, where automobile assemblies

had become more important in recent years, the unemployment situation

was bad and deteriorating.

In addition to the cutbacks more or less

prominently publicized as inventory adjustments, there had been some

temporary lay-offs, such as in Chrysler and Ford plants, for a week

at a time now and then.

In the Louisville area, activities at the

General Electric appliance park were still contracting.

No signs of

pickup in residential construction were discernible in the metropolitan

areas.

Mortgage money seemed to be somewhat more available, but as yet

there had been little change in rates.

At a meeting of the Louisville

Branch directors last week, the opinion was expressed that no substantial

pickup in residential construction in that area was reasonably to be

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expected.

Banking developments in the District resembled national

developments so closely as hardly to warrant any detailed comment.

With regard to the two-week period ahead, Mr. Johns said that,

all things considered, he continued to hold the view he had expressed

two weeks ago, namely, that the policy directive, which called for

encouraging some further expansion of bank credit, was correct.

In

this connection, he wished to emphasize, as he had done at the January 10

meeting, that he was advocating moderate expansion and not great

aggressiveness.

It was his view that the reserve projections supplied

in a memorandum from the staff dated January 23, 1961, might appropriately

be used as a guide.

The projections as to total reserves needed were

based on the maintenance of excess reserves of $700 million, and he

felt that there should be some modest increment in total reserves.

For this purpose, he would suggest as a reasonable target the figure of

$50 million mentioned by Mr. Bryan at the January 10 meeting.

Mr. Bryan said that there were almost no new figures to report

from the Sixth District.

As far as he could judge, however, nothing

significantly different was happening in the District than in the

nation.

As to the national picture, it was his conviction that although

the deterioration of the economic situation was not at all drastic,

nevertheless it was continuing and in all likelihood the situation

would get a bit worse before it

got better.

In such circumstances, he

felt that a moderate contracyclical policy was appropriate.

As Mr. Johns

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not seem to call for dramatic actions.

He was quite pleased with what

had happened, vis-a-vis the reserve and other figures, since the

January 10 meeting.

Mr. Bryan noted that in the staff memorandum of January 23,

previously referred to by Mr.

Johns, question had been raised as to

whether expansion of the money supply at an annual rate greater than

the 2 per cent rate that had occurred roughly over the past six months

might not be appropriate.

His answer would be that in a situation

where the System was following a contracyclical monetary policy, a

somewhat greater rate of expansion would be appropriate,

and that the

System should furnish the reserves necessary to permit such further

expansion, either through bank loans or investments.

In this connection,

the memorandum also raised a question as to whether, in view of the

new vault cash situation, the $500 million figure that previously had

seemed to be the minimum practicable figure for excess reserves

continued to provide an adequate benchmark.

His inclination would be

to think that the amount may have increased somewhat, but he did not

know by how much; perhaps it

would be only a few tens of millions of

dollars.

In summary, Mr. Bryan said, his inclination was to agree with Mr.

Johns that a modest increment to the projection of total reserves needed

should be provided.

Whether an increment of $50 million would be modest

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or not, he did not know, but he was inclined to settle for that figure

as a reasonable target.

Mr. Bopp reported that Third District conditions continued

relatively unchanged during the past two weeks.

In other words,

they

continued to be about as unsatisfactory as he had reported at the

January 10 meeting.

One mildly heartening factor was that steel mill

operations in the District were at a little

the country as a whole.

not high.

better rate than that for

Even so, however, the level certainly was

Department store sales continued to be fairly good, and the

unemployment situation, although bad, did not seem to be getting worse.

From the point of view of the domestic economy alone, Mr. Bopp

said, it

would appear appropriate to provide whatever monetary ease

was possible.

However,

in view of the balance-of-payments situation,

it seemed that there was little room to do much more than had already

been done.

He would not favor changing the directive or the discount

rate at this time, and in his opinion open market operations should

be conducted with a view to maintaining about the present degree of

ease in the market.

Mr. Fulton said that the picture in the Fourth District was

one of continued doldrums, even more so than in December.

The factor

that had contributed a further downward push seemed to be the abrupt

falling off of automobiles sales.

however, it

In some other sectors of activity,

seemed as though the downward drift might be leveling off.

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Proceeding to a more detailed review of District developments,

Mr. Fulton reported that there had been a seasonally adjusted increase

of 3.5 per cent in unemployment in the most recent month, but that

department store sales for this year, to date, were 12 per cent above

the same period a year ago.

Another possible "straw in the wind" was

that a large plant supplying twist drills to the manufacturing industry

claimed that the decline in its orders had halted over the past couple

of months.

Steel mill operations had increased slightly from the very

low rate of December, but the industry was still

However,

in the doldrums.

in primary metals, fabricated metals, and machine production,

excluding transportation equipment,

have been reached.

it

looked as though the bottom may

Also, although there had been no upturn as yet,

manufacturers of appliances appeared to feel the same way.

Price-cutting

was reported to be getting severe, however, and not much hope was seen

for an improvement of profits.

Construction, except for residential,

had been holding up quite well, largely in the public sector.

On the

other hand,

automobile companies had been cutting back their production

schedules.

They at first indicated they were going to produce about

450,000 units in January, but this was cut back to 434,000, and for

February it

produced.

was anticipated that only about 430,000 units would be

Inventories of over one million cars were proving to be

rather unwieldly.

Surprisingly, there did not seem to have been any

substantial cutback in plans for plant and equipment expenditures,

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even in the steel industry.

expenditures contemplated,

credit to improve its

it,

As an illustration of the type of

one smaller company had arranged for a

mill facilities in a manner that would enable

without any increase in the price of steel, to work profitably at

a 50 per cent operating rate.

The new facilities would also enable

the company to eliminate about 2,400 men from the work force, which

indicated why the District might be getting into a chronic condition

of underemployment.

Turning to interest rates, Mr. Fulton told of having been

informed that insurance companies in

the District and elsewhere had

been experiencing a considerable build-up of funds.

At some point

this situation should exert a downward pressure on yields.

In other

words, although one could not say how soon that might occur, the

ingredients were there for a downward push on longer-term rates

without any activity on the part of the System in

market other than those in which it

sectors of the

had been operating.

Mr. Fulton suggested a possible change in the policy directive,

noting that the last previous change,

in October 1960, merely added a

reference to international developments,

clause (b)

period.

and that the other part of

had not been changed substantially for a considerably longer

A change such as he had in mind would not require a further

change in policy at this time, but he felt

that it

would serve to

recognize better the present posture of monetary policy.

Specifically,

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his suggestion would be to eliminate the words "sustainable growth in

economic activity" in clause (b) and substitute "economic recovery."

He would not favor changing the discount rate at this time.

Mr. King said the suggestion that the System remain steady in

the boat seemed to him to be a good one.

This was a time, he felt,

to ponder any possible contribution that the System could make toward

maintaining confidence in the stability of the dollar.

Not only

people in this country, but people abroad with a vital interest in the

strength of the dollar, would be watching every action of the Federal

Reserve with great interest, and this led him to think that it

might

be possible to obtain a lot of mileage out of relatively modest actions.

Most people, he thought, did not believe that the ills

of any economy,

certainly the American economy, could be corrected by printing more

money, and any move,

even though small, that the System could make on

the other side should be beneficial from the standpoint of maintaining

confidence in the dollar.

or extreme.

However,

if

He would not suggest doing anything radical

the matter were approached from the standpoint

of a choice between lower free reserves or a lower bill

rate, he would

accept lower free reserves, even if they dropped to the vicinity of

$400-500 million.

He would hope that a relatively easy atmosphere

could be maintained in the credit market without having the bill

go lower, and his own preference would be to see the bill

somewhat if

that was at all possible.

rate

rate move up

In the circumstances,

he would

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be willing to conduct further operations in short-term securities,

other than bills, in the 15-month maturity area if that would offer any

possibilities.

In substance, if the System moved even slightly in the

direction indicated, he felt that perhpas it could get a lot of mileage

out of its actions in terms of confidence in the dollar; and with the

economy in a state of stagnation, he believed that serious consideration

should be given to trying to get whatever mileage was possible.

Mr. King went on to say that he realized the System was trying

to walk a narrow path, but that he wondered whether the path had been

as narrow as it should be.

He noted that some who had formerly criticized

System policy as being too tight were now criticizing it as being too

easy, which led him to wonder whether the System might not have swung

a little too far on the side of ease.

bias against high interest rates,

Although he had a built-in

per se,

in

the present circumstances

he was inclined to feel that any strengthening of rates probably would

do more to promote confidence than if

the System continued to play along

the lines that it had been following.

Mr. Shepardson commented that some of the figures that had been

reported, including those on unemployment, did not look too encouraging.

On the other hand, he wondered whether present attitudes might not

reflect seasonal influences to a considerable extent.

over the past several years,

this

it seemed to him that

time, with the exception of last

Thinking back

every year about

year, there had been considerable

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concern expressed.

Accordingly, he thought it

would be a mistake at

this point to attempt to push further toward ease.

The manner in which

savings were continuing to build up indicated that it was not a lack

of money but a lack of values or a lack of confidence that was causing

people to restrict their spending.

if

The money was there, apparently,

the people wanted to use their savings.

He did not think that any

thing would be accomplished by moving toward further ease,

and that

instead such a move would have an adverse effect on confidence in the

dollar.

Reflecting his concern about maintaining confidence, he hoped

that there might be some little

recovery in the bill

rate.

His

preference would be to maintain about the degree of ease that had

prevailed generally over the past period, and to let time and seasonal

factors work a little.

Aside from the usual seasonal factors to be

considered, this year there were also the uncertainties associated with

the change of Adminstrations, and the new Administration had not yet

had time to indicate what policies it would elect to follow from

among the many that had been suggested by various task forces.

In

summary, he would remain steady in the boat, and he would hope that,

if possible,

there might be some little

improvement in the bill

rate.

Mr. Robertson commented that everyone around the table was

equally concerned about maintaining confidence in the stability of the

dollar.

However,

some felt that primary importance should be attached

to the domestic economy, while others thought that primary importance

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should be attached to the international picture.

been well expressed by the statements of Messrs.

in combination.

His own views had

Johns and Bryan, taken

He believed that the best use of monetary policy at this

particular time, in the light of the state of economic activity, which

certainly showed no signs of moving upward, would be to provide a

moderately greater degree of ease, even if the bill

lower than 2 per cent.

rate should fall

The rate of 2 per cent had been mentioned as

kind of a floor for the purpose of determining the appropriate volume

of reserves.

However, he would not be too concerned if the bill rate

moved down; he doubted that the bill rate was the proper guideline

for the establishment of monetary policy.

Consequently, he would

move in the direction he had indicated.

Mr. Robertson said that he saw no need for a change in

directive, because he felt that it

the

contained ample latitude for the

kind of policy currently being followed or for the policy that would

be followed if his views were accepted.

He would not object to

eliminating the word "sustainable" from clause (b), but the

taking out of that one word might create difficulties of under

standing more than it

would accomplish anything.

With reference to the comments that had been made to the effect

that the System should keep itself in a posture of flexibility, Mr.

Robertson said he thought everyone around the table would agree that

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the System should be flexible.

This was a time of change, and the

System should show that it could gear its actions to the needs of the

day.

This did not mean, however, that the System should jump in

panicky fashion from one position to another merely to avoid the charge

of being doctrinaire.

Instead, flexibility should be based on views

and principles that had been thought out well.

This was more important

than avoiding any charges of being doctrinaire.

Mr. Mills said that, as he interpreted the economic review

presented to the Committee today, it placed primary emphasis on the

balance-of-payments problem of the United States.

This caused him to

refer to the point of view that he expressed to the Committee same six

weeks ago; namely, that it

is

not possible or practicable for the Open

Market Committee to attempt to conduct a monetary and credit policy

that will attempt to foster monetary expansion and growth in the economy

at the same time that action is necessary to protect the integrity of

the dollar in international markets.

reinforced his views.

Evidence since that meeting had

He believed that the ease that had been

injected into the position of the commercial banks through supplying

reserves had given visible proof that an abundance of reserves at a

time of receding business activity does not serve to promote economic

growth or expansion, or even the expansion of credit except as additions

are made to commercial bank protfolios of United States Government

securities.

Under present circumstances,

that seemed to him a rather

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weak reed upon which to lean, particularly if at the expense of

producing a climate damaging to the essential efforts that should be

made to preserve international respect in the integrity of the dollar.

As he viewed the shape of economic developments,

depression rather than recession.

they suggested

Such being the case, it

followed

that the injection of reserves was not going to turn the economy

immediately toward expansion.

Along that line, he recalled that one

of the charts used in today's presentation, which showed positive free

reserves and negative free reserves over a period of years, indicated

that after each of the periods when there was a sustained appearance

of positive free reserves there was a succeeding period of unwise

expansion of bank credit and an involvement of the Federal Reserve System

in the difficulty of restraining inflationary pressures.

He noted that

fact only in the light of experience and because of the possibility

that the tone of the discussion today and at previous meetings suggested

a temptation to repeat what might be the same fatal error.

He had

great sympathy for Mr. King's observations about international confidence

in the dollar, and he saw a necessity to move drastically to preserve

respect for the dollar.

Admittedly, there were grave risks in doing so,

involving the possibility of spreading the depressive influences in

this country to abroad.

However, since the dollar is the linchpin in

the scheme of international currencies, in his judgment protection of

the dollar was vital.

Personally, he believed that the System had

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allowed the time for action to drift, and that when any action was taken

it would lack the effects that should be expected from it.

This would

inevitably leave the System in a position of having to depend on

Providence rather than on conscious monetary action designed to deal

with the balance-of-payments problem.

Mr. Leach said that no significant change in the general

condition of Fifth District business during the past two weeks could

be discerned from the information available.

unemployment were somewhat more than seasonal.

Recent increases in insured

January clearance sales

appeared to be sustaining or improving the relatively good level of

business, seasonally adjusted, that most stores had in December.

District automobile dealers, however, generally reported disappointing

sales for the past few weeks.

Since the last meeting of the Committee,

a distinct ease had continued to characterize District banking as

weekly reporting member banks continued to increase their liquid invest

ments without borrowing.

With respect to policy, Mr. Leach said he thought this was

clearly no time to rock the boat.

considerations,

To him, national and international

which were fully discussed at the meeting two weeks

ago, called for a continuation of the same degree of ease that had

been the objective for several weeks.

It might be too much, he said,

to hope that short-term interest rates would continue at existing levels.

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However, he thought the Manager of the Account should be careful to

do what he could, within the terms of the Committee's instructions,

avoid any appreciable reduction in the ninety-day bill

rate.

to

By this,

he meant buying other short-term Governments when this was practicable

and not resolving doubts on the side of ease.

He doubted that a few

more reserves would materially improve the economy, and he believed a

sizeable reduction in the ninety-day bill

rate could prove harmful.

This did not mean that he would subordinate System policy to the bill

rate.

What he was advocating was continuation of the same degree of

ease, while keeping an eye on the bill rate, avoiding exessive ease,

and buying short-term securities other than bills when practicable.

Thus, it might be hoped that the bill rate would not go down, at least

very much.

Mr. Leedy said there had been no developments in the Tenth

District since the January 10 meeting that seemed to require a report.

It

appeared to him that the System bad two fundamental responsibilities,

neither of which it could escape.

First, the System had a responsibility

to make whatever contribution it could toward the recovery of the

domestic economy.

Second,

it

should not contribute to further

deterioration of the problem with respect to the balance of payments.

Although it

was difficult to reconcile these two things,

it

seemed to

him each of them was part of the System's total responsibility.

optimism that appeared to prevail at this particular time in the

The

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markets, and on the part of analysts, as to an early reversal of the

present trend was an element in the System's favor.

psychology tended to give the System a little

might otherwise be the case.

As he saw it,

This kind of

more elbow room than

a further easing of the

reserve position of the banks would contribute nothing at all.

There

fore, for the period ahead, he would suggest that the System simply

avoid tightening the reserve position of the banks materially.

If

some additional reserves were required, those operations should be

undertaken in the part of the longer-term area in which the Committee's

operating policies permitted operations to be conducted.

He would be

concerned about any further deterioration of the bill rate.

as the bill

As long

rate remained substantially in its present area and as

long as the Federal funds rate remained moderately below the discount

rate--and certainly it

had been far below in the past few days--a

nominal sliding down of free reserves would not disturb him.

In

summary, for the period until the next meeting he would prefer to

sit

quite steady in the boat and follow policies such as he had out

lined.

Mr. Allen reported that automobile manufacturers had privately

revised their sales estimates for 1961 down to 5,500,000 cars,

400,000 imports.

including

Accordingly, with inventories again over 1,000,000

production schedules were being further reduced, and January output was

now estimated at 430,000 units, the lowest January since 1952.

February

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and March were currently figured at 450,000 and 550,000, which would

make a total of 1,430,000 for the first

year ago.

quarter--29 per cent below a

However, with the high inventories, and even assuming that

the industry would be content to continue with them right up until

the expiration of labor contracts on August 31, sales would dictate

production schedules.

And, as he had said, sales predictions were

not encouraging.

Mr. Allen went on to say that unemployment compensation claims

in the Seventh District had been heavy in recent weeks.

The automotive

cutbacks had been largely responsible, but there was evidence that

production of most types of industrial machinery and equipment also

was being reduced.

However,

in the midst of a generally gloomy

picture there were a few signs of improvement in order trends.

of steel strapping, farm and construction machinery,

Producers

and appliances

indicated that orders had improved in recent weeks, as did die shops,

but these reports were too fragmentary to signify a general rise in

activity.

District department stores were having a good January, with

sales nicely above a year ago, and in the past four weeks Sears

Roebuck sales, seasonally adjusted, were the highest since the record

level of last April.

District banks reported further weakening,

seasonal,

in the demand for bank credit.

apparently more than

Total loans of reporting banks

declined $275 million, and business loans $50 million, in the first

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weeks of January.

There did not seem to be any reserve pressures.

The Chicago central reserve city banks were currently showing a basic

deficit position of around $50 million, but that was more than accounted

for by one dealer bank.

Other money market banks had been consistent

sellers of Federal funds in sizeable amounts.

Although their positions

had eased, the banks had shown no inclination to buy intermediate

Governments,

although they continued to increase their portfolios of

municipal bonds.

In the week ended January 18, reporting Chicago banks

purchased $70 million of Treasury bills but sold a larger amount of

one- to five-year Government issues.

After summarizing certain observations that were made at the

meeting of the directors of the Detroit Branch last week, Mr. Allen

said he agreed with the expressions that had been heard this morning

about the importance of confidence in money and financial matters, at

this time particularly.

His own view as to the best course to follow

in the interest of maintaining confidence was to sit steady in the

boat,

as some had expressed it.

Therefore,

he would not change the

directive, the discount rate, or the degree of ease at this time.

Mr.

Deming said that relative to a year ago Ninth District

economic indicators pointed to better gains than did those for the

nation.

The December-to-December change in District debits was plus

1-1/2 per cent in

contrast to minus 1 per cent for the nation; Minnesota

personal income was up 4.8 per cent against a 3.2 per cent gain nationally.

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In large part, the District's favorable picture reflected a good farm

year, with net farm cash income estimated at 10 per cent higher than

in 1959.

The stronger District gains in 1960, however, were partly illusory,

for they were measured from a relatively weak 1959 base.

It probably was

more accurate to say that in 1960 the Ninth District merely came back on

the same track on which the nation was running in both 1959 and 1960, and

that the immediate future prospects for the District were not significantly

better or worse than those for the nation.

District banking had shown substantial improvements in liquidity

in recent weeks, reflecting both diminished loan demand and rising deposit

totals.

Relative to earlier years, however, the liquidity measures did

not look so favorable.

Mr. Deming commented that in the past two months he had visited a

number of countries in Asia and Europe, and had talked with a number of

people.

He then reported briefly on some of his findings, as follows:

1. The question of the value of the dollar is of no

particular consequence in Asia, although the question of

our balance of payments is of considerable consequence

because the Asians fear that it may lead to some dimi

nution in aid. There has been some feeling of uncertainty

about the value of the dollar in Hong Kong, and perhaps

some in Bangkok and Bombay, but it does not at present

seem to be very serious.

2. There is considerable concern about our balance

of payments and about the value of the dollar in Europe,

although that concern has lessened recently. The Europeans,

however, are watching very closely to see what is done in

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this country, and the concern could grow quite rapidly if

they interpreted statements or policies in the United

States as indicating too much of an easy money approach

to our domestic difficulties.

3. The interest rate differentials between the

United States and other countries have led to very

substantial movements of funds, and these movements

have been intensified by the concerns noted above,

which have made other currencies and gold relatively

more attractive.

4. In summary, I would say that there is a rather

delicately balanced confidence in the dollar which is

the product of (a) the record of the dollar as a hard

and a reserve currency, plus the presence of a still

huge gold reserve, plus the recognition that we do not

need to devalue, and (b) the psychological or emotional

feeling that perhaps the above points are not completely

conclusive.

That delicate balance could be lost rather

quickly.

Mr. Deming noted that it

had been said that the System was facing

a policy dilemma because of the balance of payments and the course of the

domestic economy.

He does not see it

economy certainly was not buoyant,

quite that way, however.

but neither was it

The domestic

waterlogged.

The

System had put a fair amount of liquidity into the banking system, and the

banks did not seem to be suffering from lack of funds to make loans or

invest in

securities.

On the other hand, the System was faced by a rather

shaky confidence in the value of the dollar.

As he saw it,

the policy

choice, while perhaps not crystal clear, was reasonably well indicated.

Policy should be influenced more by the international monetary climate than

by the domestic economy.

Thus, Mr. Deming said, he was more concerned at present about

interest rates than about measures of reserves or the money supply; more

concerned about the effects of too easy a policy than too tight a policy.

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Ideally, he would like to see short rates up and long rates down, to see

ready availability of funds at somewhat higher rates than now prevailed,

and to see the rate on time deposits lifted.

However,

since he did not

see how these ideals could be attained very easily, he would settle for

about the current availability of funds and the hope of some rise in short

term rates, or at the least no decline in them.

To him, this meant

continuation of present policy, with no change in the discount rate, no

change in the directive, and emphasis on rate maintenance as a guide to

open market policy.

Mr. Mangels said that scattered and incomplete data for December

and January that had become available since the January 10 meeting did

not indicate much change in general business conditions in the Twelfth

District.

Department store sales since the first

about even with a year ago.

of the year had held

There had been some price reductions in copper,

and some curtailment of output.

In lumber, plywood prices had dropped from

$68 per thousand to $60 per thousand, which was equal to the postwar low

reached last summer.

This price was somewhat below the cost of production

at some of the smaller mills.

little

However,

steel production had improved a

to the highest level since last July, and the mills expected a

continued increase in demand.

Twelfth District mills, of course, do not

produce much steel for the automobile industry.

Unemployment claims in

the District as a whole increased in December, but there was a drop in

unemployment in California and particularly in Washington, where the rate

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fell from 6.8 per cent in November to 6.0 per cent in December.

Compared

with December 1959, unemployment in the District was about 49 per cent

higher.

District banks showed a loan decline of about $100 million in

the two weeks ended January 11; holdings of Government securities were

down about $80 million, and demand deposits dropped a little

$50 million.

less than

Time deposits increased rather substantially ($60 million),

reflecting mostly deposits by States and political subdivisions.

Savings

deposits declined $18 million, substantially less than the $250 million

decline that occurred during the comparable period of 1960.

The small

San Francisco bank computing interest on a daily accrual basis showed

an increase of 14 per cent in

savings deposits in the first 10 days of

the year, and a Los Angeles bank following the same procedure also showed

a substantial increase.

since the first

There had been no borrowings from the Reserve Bank

of the year.

District reporting banks had excess funds and

reported that they expected to sell five or six times the amount of Federal

funds that they would buy this week.

District banks were still

using excess

funds in the Federal funds market rather than investing those funds in

Government securities.

As to policy, Mr. Mangels commented that the System was still

facing

the dilemma presented by the domestic situation on the one hand and the

international situation on the other.

It was generally recognized, he

noted, that monetary policy alone could not resolve either problem.

Recently, a college professor was quoted as having said that when facing

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the horns of a dilemma, one possibility is

throw the animal to the ground.

to grab both horns and try to

Another possibility is

to analyze the

situation, determine whether it is better to grab one horn or the other,

and proceed on that basis.

On entering this meeting, Mr. Mangels said,

he had fairly well concluded that if

the System grabbed the domestic horn

and did everything that monetary policy could do, within recognized limi

tations and with the hope, of course, that debt management and fiscal policy

would do their part, a recovery in business activity could be stimulated.

If that occurred, the improvement would generate increased demands for

credit, which in turn would firm up interest rates and thus help the

international situation.

This line of thinking would suggest continuing

a policy of ease, with free reserves in the area of $600-700 million, not

too far, that is, from what had prevailed.

As to the bill rate, Mr. Mangels

referred to a paper of recent date in which the author suggested that a

policy designed to keep the bill rate from falling when the domestic

economy was on the verge of stagnation would be self-defeating; that such

a policy would only hamper economic recovery and growth; and that this

would induce an outflow of long-term capital.

Mr. Mangels went on to

say that he realized that the views he had held placed him in the minority

at this meeting and that, as he listened to the discussion today, he felt

that he might have been a little wrong in his judgment.

As far as the directive was concerned, Mr. Mangels said that he

thought language along the lines suggested by Mr. Fulton perhaps would be

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suitable to the present situation.

that it

As to the discount rate, he still felt

should not be reduced, but he wished the System were in a position

where a reduction could be made.

Some of the San Francisco directors felt

that it would be a good thing to reduce the rate, but in all the circum

stances he would not recommend such action at this time.

Mr. Irons said that Eleventh District developments during the

past couple of weeks were not significantly different from those he had

reported previously.

In general, they followed the national trend rather

closely, and he did not feel that they had particular significance from

the standpoint of the determination of monetary policy.

ever, that the banking situation was one of genuine ease.

He would say, how

Borrowings from

the Federal Reserve Bank were negligible, and sales of Federal funds had

been substantially in excess of purchases.

The loan decline in the first

few weeks of the current year was moderate, possibly less than seasonal,

and the banks had added to their holdings of Government securities.

Total

deposits had been moving upward, a slight decline in demand deposits being

more than offset by the increase in time deposits.

As to policy, Mr. Irons said it seemed to him that there had been

a very easy credit position over the past three weeks, and possibly before

that.

Free reserves had been quite high and Federal funds had been almost

constantly on the bargain counter, so it seemed that there was almost a

surfeit of reserves.

He concurred in the view that this was a situation

where there should be no overt or drastic action, and he did not believe

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that any change in the directive was necessary at the moment.

However,

he

felt that the policy of the past few weeks, or few months, had led the

System gradually into a position of more aggressive ease than was warranted

or justified, and he would like to see some of that ease recaptured.

Treasury bill

The

rate had been tending to hold in the lower part of a range

that the Committee had talked about earlier, but he would prefer to see

it

move in the upper levels of that range.

In other words, he would be

glad to see that rate show a slight upward tendency.

reduce the discount rate to bring it

He would not want to

in line with other short-term rates;

instead, he would like to see other market rates brought up into better

relationship with the discount rate.

This, he thought, could be done

through open market operations without taking overt or drastic action.

The

objective that he had in mind was that the Federal funds rate would firm

up within the range of 2.5 to 3 per cent, rather than 1 to 2 per cent, with

the bill rate moving into the 2.5 per cent area rather than softening below

2.20 per cent.

In his opinion, if more attention could be given to rate

aspects as a guide and less to maintaining $600 to $700 million of free

reserves, that would be a much better policy for the situation with which

the System was now confronted.

In summary, he would not want to change

the discount rate; instead he would like to see the bill rate move into

better relationship with the discount rate.

Accordingly, he would absorb

some of the ease that the System had put into the market.

Mr.

Erickson reported that statistics on department store sales,

automobile sales, and construction in the First District were still

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slightly better than the national figures.

However, the situation with

respect to production and employment continued to be discouraging.

the first

In

two weeks of 1961, District banks reported an expansion of

commercial and industrial loans,

compared with a reduction a year ago.

The gain was 7 per cent.

Mr. Erickson said he saw no reason to change the directive or

the discount rate.

In view of the balance-of-payments problem, he thought

the System should concentrate more,

to have a Treasury bill

in operations of the Desk, on trying

rate somewhere within the present range than on

trying to attain any certain free reserve figure.

If

it

was necessary to

put reserves into the market, he would not hesitate to conduct transactions

in short-term securities other than bills.

Mr.

policy.

Szymzak indicated that he would not recommend any change in

In his opinion, the policy that the System had been pursuing was

about the best that could be devised, because of the two horns of the

dilemma.

It must be recognized that the interest rate structure has a

relationship to the balance-of-payments situation.

To repeat, he felt

that what the System had been doing up to this time was about as right as

it

could have been under the circumstances.

The picture might become more

clear after the President's State of the Union Message had been delivered

next week and some idea could be obtained as to the thinking of the new

Administration.

Also, the situation might be clearer after the Committee

had heard from the Ad Hoc Subcommittee on its study of operating techniques

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and after the terms of the Treasury's February refunding had been announced.

In any event, however, the balance-of-payments situation was at the heart

of the problem, not only here but abroad.

Mr. Balderston said that Messrs. Mills, Deming, and Irons and

others who spoke in similar vein had expressed his own concern at the

moment.

It was his feeling that the System, for the time being, had

supplied as much in the way of reserves as the economy was willing to

use.

Consequently, at the moment he would pay more attention to short

term rates than to further ease.

In essence, his suggestion would be

the same as he had made two weeks ago, and the same as Mr. Irons had

made today.

He would supply such ease as the System supplied less

aggressively, with the hope that the Treasury bill

somewhat.

rate might rise

The Federal funds rate had been substantially below the

discount rate, he noted, and that rate was worth watching as an indi

cator of the degree of ease in the market.

He would not favor changing

the directive or the discount rate.

Chairman Martin commented, with reference to the expression

used by Mr. Mangels, that he did not think there was any real dilemma

about the choice of horns:

it

was necessary to grab both of them.

Continuing, he said he had come to the belief that there was every

indication that money was on the side of being too easy rather than the

reverse.

Also, from a personal survey he had made, he could not escape

the belief that some of this money was going into the stock market.

While

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mortgage rates might not be down as drastically as some would like, the

fact remained that money was available to the public.

After commenting

on a recent conversation with an insurance company executive which

pointed up the extent of the availability of funds, the Chairman noted

that reports from abroad, such as that of Mr. Deming, confirmed the

emphasis that was being placed on the balance-of-payments situation.

These reports all indicated that there was a delicate balance of confi

dence in the dollar.

Thus, there was a problem in respect to rates that

was different than heretofore.

In the circumstances,

he would certainly

go along with those who had expressed the view that the Treasury bill

rate was a matter of real importance at the present time.

while the bill

To sit by

rate slipped to, say, 1.5 per cent would in his opinion

be irresponsible.

Likewise, in his opinion a reduction of the discount

rate now would be an act of irresponsibility.

The discount rate should

be brought in line at some point, but this was not the time.

After expressing the view that in the present circumstances no

overt actions were called for, Chairman Martin said that the burden of

proof now rested on those who thought that money was tight, not on those

who thought it

was too easy.

every place in the economy.

As he saw it,

there was plenty of money

While rates might not be what one thought

they should be, nevertheless the money was there.

would make an adjustment.

In time, the rates

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The Chairman repeated that in his view serious consideration should

be given to the bill

rate; the problem should be thought through.

Question

had been raised whether the Committee should go into longer-term securities

or, if not, how the situation should be handled, but in any event one could

not just simply say that the System would supply reserves.

a little

The problem was

different than that.

Under normal circumstances,

Chairman Martin commented, he thought

that the Committee's operating procedures had been clear.

Generally

speaking, he felt that they were the right operating procedures.

he did not think that these were normal circumstances.

However,

One must be con

cerned about the short-term rate, about reserves, and about the arbitrage

that occurs in the market.

The Chairman said that he hoped the Desk would use its

at this time.

Further, if

it

appeared as though the bill

best judgment

rate was going

through 2 per cent, he thought that perhaps the Committee should have

telephone meetings.

The situation was too serious just to sit by and

let things develop in that way.

disorderly market situation.

In one sense, he suggested, this was a

It was not a disorderly market in the sense

in which that term was used in the Committee's operating policies, but

there were nevertheless some of the elements of a disorderly market

situation because of world interest rates and the world pull on funds.

While that pull might be temporary, the problem was serious and the

System should not let the situation get away from it.

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Chairman Martin suggested that the next meeting of the Federal

Open Market Committee be held on Tuesday, February 7,

and, there being

no indication of dissent,

it

be held on that date.

was also understood that the date of the next

It

was understood that the next meeting would

succeeding meeting would depend on developments.

The Chairman then said that it

should be no change in

in

the market.

was the clear consensus that there

the directive and no change in the degree of ease

He did not believe there was much that could be added to

what would appear in the minutes to help guide the Manager of the Account;

that is,

there was not much he could add to the comments that each

individual had made.

Chairman Martin inquired whether there were additional comments,

and Mr.

Hayes said he assumed that the Chairman meant to include in the

consensus the distinct concern about the level of the short-term rate

that most of those at this

meeting had expressed.

Chairman Martin replied that that was what he had been trying

to express in

his comments on the bill

rate.

He believed that most of

those around the table had expressed that concern.

Mr.

Bopp commented that, although he had not expressed himself

on the point earlier, he would go along with the expressions of concern

regarding the bill

rate.

Chairman Martin then indicated that,

comments,

in the absence of further

the directive would be approved on that general basis, and no

further comments were heard.

-39Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, it was voted unanimously to direct

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York until

otherwise directed by the Committee:

(1) To make such purchases, sales, or exchanges (including

replacement of maturing securities, and allowing maturities to

run off without replacement) for the System Open Market Account

in the open market or, in the case of maturing securities, by

direct exchange with the Treasury, as may be necessary in the

light of current and prospective economic conditions and the

general credit situation of the country, with a view (a) to

relating the supply of funds in the market to the needs of

commerce and business, (b) to encouraging monetary expansion

for the purpose of fostering sustainable growth in economic

activity and employment, while taking into consideration

current international developments, and (c) to the practical

administration of the Account; provided that the aggregate

amount of securities held in the System Account (including

commitments for the purchase or sale of securities for the

Account) at the close of this date, other than special short

term certificates of indebtedness purchased from time to time

for the temporary accommodation of the Treasury, shall not be

increased or decreased by more than $1 billion;

(2) To purchase direct from the Treasury for the account

of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (with discretion, in

cases where it seems desirable, to issue participations to one

or more Federal Reserve Banks) such amounts of special short

term certificates of indebtedness as may be necessary from time

to time for the temporary accommodation of the Treasury; provided

that the total amount of such certificates held at any one time

by the Federal Reserve Banks shall not exceed in the aggregate

$500 million.

At the suggestion of the Chairman, Mr. Hayes summarized the nature

of views that had been expressed to him and Mr. Coombs during their trip

to Europe earlier this month to attend a regular monthly meeting of the

Bank for International Settlements, following which Mr. Deming commented

on observations he had heard during his recent assignment in the Far East

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and in the course of his return trip through Europe.

that it

Mr. Hayes commented

had been brought home to him repeatedly that trips abroad by

System representatives, to the extent that they could reasonably be

arranged, were most helpful from the standpoint of all concerned.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1961, January 23). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19610124
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19610124,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1961},
  month = {Jan},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19610124},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}