fomc minutes · May 28, 1962

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Comittee was held in the

offices

of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in

Washington on Tuesday, May 29,

PRESENT:

Mr.

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1962, at 10:00 a.m.

Martin, Chairman 1/

Hayes,

Vice Chairman

Balderston

Bryan

Deming

Ellis

Fulton

King

Mills

Mitchell

Robertson

Shepardson

Messrs. Bopp, Scanlon, Clay, and Irons, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Wayne and Swan, Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of Richmond and San Francisco,

respectively

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Noyes, Economist

Messrs. Brandt, Brill, Furth, Garvy, Holland,

Koch, and Willis, Associate Economists

Mr. Stone, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open

Market Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of

Governors

Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research

and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Knipe, Consultant to the Chairman, Board

of Governors

Mr. Yager, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics,

Board of Governors

1/ Entered meeting at point indicated in minutes.

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Mr. Francis, First Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of St. Louis

Mr. Hickman, Senior Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of Cleveland

Messrs. Eastburn, Ratchford, Baughman, Jones,

Tow, Coldwell, and Einzig, Vice Presidents

of the Federal Reserve Banks of Philadelphia,

Mr.

Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City,

Dallas, and San Francisco, respectively

Sternlight, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Hellweg, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of Minneapolis

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

the minutes of the meeting of the Federal

Open Market Committee held on April 17,

1962, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report on open market operations in United States

Government securities covering the period May 8 through May 23,

1962,

and a supplementary report covering the period May 24 through May 28,

1962.

Copies of both reports have been placed in the files of the

Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Stone commented

as follows:

Among the more noteworthy developments as viewed from the

Trading Desk since the last meeting of the Committee is the

fact that while the banking system has had continuously

available a volume of free reserves that is within the range

of other recent periods, there has occurred, behind that

volume of free reserves, a considerably more comfortable

money market situation and a perceptible slowing of the

rate of growth of total reserves.

The evident implication

is that the economy has been making less vigorous use of

available free reserves than in April, for example, and, in

the past week or two, less vigorous use than one might expect

on seasonal grounds.

A part of the explanation of this

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situation, as we see it from the vantage point of the Desk,

lies in the sharp reductions in dealer positions and use of

credit since late April and early May, but whether and to

what extent the explanation for the less vigorous use of

available reserves in the recent period goes beyond the

decline in dealer financing requirements is difficult to

determine.

In any event, with Federal funds largely in a

2 - 2-3/4 per cent range, the reserves have clearly been

available in ample volume.

Mr. Holland, in his broader

review of the credit situation, may have somewhat more

perspective on these matters.

Given this new situation, rates on Treasury bills moved

lower during the early part of the period, but turned upward

when the Treasury announced that it would add $100 million

to the bill supply in the auction held last week (and when

it subsequently announced that another $100 million would be

added to the bills sold in yesterday's auction). Demand for

bills has been good throughout the period, and the general

tendency has been toward lower rates.

Yesterday,

partly in

response to the easy money market that developed, the rate

moved lower again. The three-month bills were sold at an

average of 2.66 per cent, while the six-month issue was sold

at an average of 2.74 per cent. These rates are down 4 or

5 basis points from the preceding auction but are close to

the rates set in the auction two weeks ago. If the economy

does not use the reserves available to it any more vigorously

than in the recent period, then assuming free reserves in

about the recent range, bill rates could well drop somewhat

further even if the Treasury continues to add $100 million

to the supply of bills for the next two or three weeks. If,

on the other hand, the economy should use up reserves at the

rate it did in April, short-term rates could well tend to

move upward.

Prices of Treasury bonds in the period since the last

meeting were up, then down during much of the period, and

The rise at the

finally up again in the past several days.

beginning of the period was more or less a continuation of

the upward movement that had started about three months ago,

when the market seemed to decide that neither economic trends

nor developments in credit policy would put upward pressure

on longer-term rates for the time being -- and that the

The rise

balance of forces on rates might even be downward.

in prices gained further impetus from the steady erosion of

stock market prices. Then, from about May 14 through 21,

off and in some cases lost perhaps a third

bond prices fell

of the gains recorded over the previous two and a half months.

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Better news about the economy, the approaching payment date

for the May refunding, and sporadic advances in the stock

market all helped to produce a much more cautious attitude

among dealers -- who still held large amounts of the refunding

issues and sizable inventories of other issues as well. While

there was no heavy selling by investors, the limited offerings

that did appear were not readily absorbed--and in fact dealers

sought instead to lighten their inventories of intermediate

and longer issues at every opportunity.

A second turnabout

in the price trend came around May 21-22 as fresh buying

was stimulated by the more attractice yield levels than

attained, and by the new rush of price declines in the

stock market, while dealers' inventories had by this time

worked down to a considerably lower level. Throughout the

period it was evident that the stock market was a major

factor influencing the prices of Treasury securities--both

as a psychological factor and as a direct influence as some

funds reportedly moved out of equities and into fixed-income

The stock market's influence was particularly

securities.

noteworthy yesterday, when the bond market started out with

small price declines, and then turned around as selling

pressures mounted in the equity market.

Finally, I might comment on the question raised by

meeting of the Committee, with regard

Mr. Swan at the last

We discussed

to the recent use of repurchase agreements.

meeting and it might

this matter informally after the last

be useful to summarize here the substance of that discussion.

You may recall that Mr. Swan asked two questions--first,

whether the recent use of repurchase agreements went somewhat

beyond the rationale originally envisaged when the repurchase

instrument was adopted; and second, whether the recent use of

repurchase agreements had a tendency to cause reserve levels

to turn out somewhat lower than anticipated because of dealers'

action at times in terminating these agreements before maturity.

point I think the answer is "yes"; it seems to us

On the first

that a somewhat more extensive use of repurchase agreements

has been part of the process of adapting System open market

operations so as to be able to inject reserves while minimizing

direct downward pressure on bill rates. As to the second

question, it does not seem to us that the employment of repurchase

agreements has tended to produce significant shortfalls from

anticipated reserve levels.

We know when we arrange these

agreements that they may be withdrawn by dealers prior to

maturity, and some rough allowance can be made for this.

Partly for this reason, shortfalls from anticipated reserve

levels owing to dealer withdrawals of repurchase agreements

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have been very small relative to shortfalls resulting from

the erratic behavior of market factors.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the open market transactions

in Government securities during the

period May 8 through May 28, 1962, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. Noyes presented the following statement with respect to

economic developments:

At one time or another in recent months almost every

analyst of economic developments has found occasion to express

some doubts as to the sustainability of the level of stock

prices.

In many of the forecasts for 1962 made at the close

of last year, a major break in equity prices was mentioned

as one of the disturbing possibilities. At the first

of the

year, and several times thereafter, it seemed that such a

major adjustment might be under way, but until mid-March

each was reversed after a short drop.

Since March 15, however,

prices have been declining, with only minor interruptions and

growing momentum, until at the close yesterday the Standard

and Poor's average at 55.50 was off 24 per cent from the

December high. The fact that the adjustment was so widely

heralded does not seem to have substantially reduced either

the dismay or the pain of its reality.

doubt that a decline of these

There can be little

proportions must be reckoned as a major factor in any

appraisal of economic developments.

While the effects should

not be exaggerated, they have already spread well beyond the

narrow confines of the market itself. Whether it should be

or not, a drop this large will be interpreted by many as a

harbinger of recession. It will almost certainly result in

some curtailment in investment expenditures and perhaps

dampen consumer spending as well, especially for luxury-type

goods and services.

The stock price decline has proceeded in the face of

quite a bit of relatively favorable news with respect to the

Production in April was up a

performance of the economy.

more, if anything, than we estimated at the time of

little

the last meeting.

Indications are for some slight further

gain in May, despite the curtailed rate of steel production.

Retail sales were up about as anticipated last month,

and both department store and auto sales continued strong

through the first three weeks of May. Neither our own buying

intentions survey taken in mid-April or the current information

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received from other surveys provides evidence of slackened

consumer confidence or a cutback in consumer spending plans.

In fact, the surveys, taken together, would suggest some

pick-up in demand for household durable goods, an area which

has lagged thus far in the recovery and expansion.

Housing starts were up further last month, and house

purchase plans reported in the survey also showed some

improvement. Consumer credit growth in April is now estimated

at almost half a billion dollars--up somewhat more than the

trade would have indicated, and

early figures on retail

considerably above the previous high for this recovery period.

While developments have not taken on any of the character

istics

of a boom, one would have had to have rather high hopes

to find the performances of the economy so far in the current

quarter disappointing with respect to current sales, output,

and employment.

But, apart from the stock market, there has been evidence

of concern and even pessimism regarding the economic outlook.

Information reported by the National Association of Purchasing

Agents with respect to their plans and policies has taken a

very pessimistic turn.

Observers who rely heavily on the

National Bureau of Economic Research leading indicators have

found, especially in certain combinations of these statistics,

configurations which lead them to suspect that a downturn may

not lie too far ahead.

The behavior of manufacturers'

new

orders for durable goods--which declined for two months and

showed no improvement in April--has been disappointing to some.

While they are not as specific and articulate as one might

wish as to their reasons, businessmen in a variety of lines

report dissatisfaction and concern--and this feeling on their

part is an economic fact which must be taken into account, along

with the data.

Even before the dramatic further decline in the market

yesterday, it seemed clear that quite a fundamental reappraisal

of the economy's performance and prospects, especially as to

profits, was under way. It is hard to think of any construc

tive change in policy that the monetary authority might take

while this reappraisal is in process. The continuation of a

policy aimed at the objectives expressed in the current

directive would seem most appropriate.

Mr. Furth presented the following statement on the U.

S.

balance of payments and related matters:

In April and May, balance of payments developments were

midly encouraging.

For the first

quarter, official balance of

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payments data showed a monthly deficit of $150 million. But

the figure based on net transfers to foreigners of gold, con

vertible foreign currencies, and dollars would be around $200

million. The Board's staff believes that the latter figure is

better comparable with current data.

The deficit for April was $200 million, about the same as

the first

quarter average but much less than the figure for

March alone. Tentative and partial data for the first three

weeks of May indicate further improvement this month.

Net gold sales to foreigners amounted to a monthly average

quarter and to $120 million in

of $100 million in the first

Our net sales for this

April, but to only $60 million in May.

month were reduced by some gold purchases, mainly from Canada.

Economic activity abroad remains satisfactory in the

developed countries but mixed in underdeveloped areas.

Output

in the United Kingdom seems to be expanding; the country's

balance of payments appears to be in equilibrium, with a rise

in exports apparently to a large extent offsetting the decline

Concern has been expressed,

in the inflow of capital funds.

however, about pressures for wage increases in excess of

amounts deemed compatible with the maintenance of price

stability.

Similar concern is prevalent in Continental Europe

although the continuing rise in the reserves of the main

European countries makes anxiety about the competitiveness of

European industry appear premature, to say the least. The

Gilpatric agreement with Germany on military expenditures and

agreements with Italy and France on debt prepayments will

temporarily reduce both the European surplus and the U. S.

deficit, but the prepayments will not correct the underlying

situation.

Continuing financial, economic, and political troubles in

many Latin American countries will probably put a double burden

on our balance of payments and on our domestic economy: they

will hamper our exports to those countries, and at the same

time increase pressures for additional government aid.

Gold and foreign exchange markets were quiet until a few

days ago.

Since last week, however, the markets have been

nervous, with unfavorable effects on the dollar.

reasons were technical:

Some of the

the continuing concern about the future

of the Canadian dollar has apparently led to the withdrawal of

European funds from Canada; and since the U. S. dollar is in

variably used as "vehicle currency" in these transactions, the

movement has strengthened the U. S. dollar vis-a-vis the

Canadian dollar but weakened it vis-a-vis the European cur

rencies. Similarly, the apparent cessation of capital flows

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from the Continent to Britain has strengthened the dollar

against sterling but contributed to dollar weakness on the

Continent.

But there have also been rumors about withdrawals of

European funds from the New York stock market.

If such with

drawals became substantial, they would weaken not only the

dollar rate but also our balance of payments.

Whatever the reason, the dollar is again close to the

floor against all major Continental European currencies ex

cept the German mark. It has improved against sterling,

although still

remaining below par.

It has risen substantially

above par against the Canadian dollar, but this

is scant

comfort.

Even the London gold market, which had been a bright spot

in the international financial picture in recent months, has

been disappointing.

The price has again risen above $35.08,

and the Bank of England had to sell some gold to the market.

In absolute terms, all these movements have not been very

impressive. When seen in context with developments on the

stock exchange, however, they may be taken as another symptom

of disturbed investor confidence and the resulting general

market uneasiness.

Mr.

Holland presented the following statement with respect to

credit developments:

Banking and credit changes during the past three weeks have

been pushed into the background by the eye-catching developments

in the central financial markets.

Mr. Noyes has already com

mented on the dramatic decline in the stock market.

The municipal market has also been under some pressure,

with

yields backing up somewhat as dealers worked to move sizable new

offerings in the face of a record total of inventories on the

Blue List.

Meanwhile, the Government securities market has been the

focus of conflicting influences. For a time during May, it

appeared the market yield curve was destined to lose some of the

flatness it had acquired during 1962, as downward market

pressures on the bill rate were followed by upward pressures on

yields extending from the intermediate through the long end of

the Government list. Such pressures were countered in varying

degrees by System and Treasury actions to bolster the bill

rate

and by the strength imparted to the debt markets by sinking stock

prices.

As a consequence, the month of May drew towards its

close with a yield curve in the Government market not far dif

ferent from that at the beginning of the month, despite some

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tendency for other short rates to move lower and long-term

municipal yields to move higher. Now, however, a combination of

resurgent investor demands and the temporary reserve surpluses

of the current week are applying new downward pressures

particularly on the bill market, and it remains to be seen how

much bill yields will be displaced by this convergence of factors.

During this span, the banking system has continued to add to

its loans, although in a somewhat altered pattern. In the first

half of May, loan growth in the smaller urban and rural areas

appeared to slow, while loan increases at city banks were

stronger. In part, the increases in loans at city banks repre

sented temporary or one-time influences, such as the short-run

financing of enlarged dealer positions around the Treasury

financing and the taking into portfolio of almost all the $300

million participation certificates sold by the Export-Import

Bank. Underlying these changes, however, were some further

increases in real estate, consumer, and business loans. Among

the cyclically strategic industries, only construction has

accounted for an important part of the business loan increases

of recent weeks. Loans to construction firms by leading banks

have been moving up briskly since March, paralleling the pickup

in building activity.

Bank holdings of securities appeared little changed on

This resulted in less

balance during the past four weeks.

total bank credit expansion than had been reported for some

previous months or for the comparable period of last year.

for

Bank holdings of municipal securities declined a little

seasonal reasons, due chiefly to the maturity of some New York

City tax notes. Even after allowing for that factor, however,

the more gradually mounting figures reported for recent weeks

suggest some waning in bank appetites for more municipals, at

least at the yield levels prevailing during April and

much of May.

Turning to the deposit side of bank balance sheets, reports

indicate a slower rate of increase in time deposits, a pause in

expansion of demand deposits, and a large shift of demand

balances from private to Government hands. As a result, the

average money supply in the first half of May is estimated to

have slipped about $100 million following its billion dollar

April increase, and a larger reduction is possible in the second

half of this month. At its mid-May mark, the money supply stood

2.8 per cent above its year-ago level. Available data suggest

a continuing increase in the rate of money use. Turnover of

demand accounts in reporting centers outside New York reached an

annual rate of 31.8 in April. Thus far during 1962, deposit

turnover so measured has averaged 8 per cent above a year ago.

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Reflecting these deposit movements, the total of reserves

required against private deposits declined substantially more

than seasonally during the first

three reserve weeks in May.

The

level reached in the week of May 23 was equivalent to a 3 per

cent annual rate of growth in such reserves from last November.

Furthermore, the full amount of that increase in aggregate re

serves over the past six months was more than taken up by the

growth in reserves required against time deposits; reserves

required against private demand deposits were actually below

their November level on a seasonally adjusted basis.

The May contraction in the private reserve base substanti

ally offset the April increase, despite the fact that free

reserves were maintained during the month at an average level

substantially unchanged from April. In fact, free reserves in

this week and last are relatively high compared with typical

1962 levels. Such a pattern calls attention to the fluctuating

nature of private deposit totals, and warns against the imputa

tion of significance to the movements in individual weeks except

as they can be seen as parts of a developing pattern. Dis

tortations or concentrations of deposit movements can be created

by the erratic timing of many bank loan and investment deci

sions, a particular case in point being securities loans.

Another major contributor to private deposit fluctuations--and

a key factor recently--is the change in Federal Government

accounts. Treasury balances dropped to unusually low levels

through April, and then rose probably to a record average level

in May.

They are likely to persist at a relatively high level

during much of June.

Such movements have thus served, first

to

expand, and more recently to contract, private money holdings

for appreciable spans of time. Shifts of deposits into Treasury

accounts during May also led to some concentrations of reserves

in the major money centers. This movement may provide a partial

explanation of the development of easier money markets along with

more or less stable free reserve figures, and perhaps also may

have influenced the appearance of stronger city bank loan ex

pansion along with a slackened pace of expansion in outlying

areas.

The conduct of System operations in the weeks immediately

ahead will continue to be complicated by such Treasury influ

ences, above and beyond the more predictable reserve impacts of

a heavy currency drain over the next statement week and the usual

early-month trough and midmonth bulge in float. An appropriate

policy to guide such operations must take into account many con

siderations, some of which lie outside the scope of this review.

With slackened bank credit expansion, a contracting money supply,

and unsettled conditions in key financial markets, however, any

move toward more restrictive general monetary conditions than

prevailed during the earlier weeks in May would appear out of

step.

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Chairman Martin, who had been attending a meeting at the

White House,

entered the room at this point.

Mr. Hayes presented the following statement of his views with

respect to the business outlook and monetary policy:

I would like to preface my remarks by stating that I wish our

meeting were not occurring only one day after yesterday's momentous

happenings, as the visibility this morning is certainly low. How

ever, I have in mind the fact that we must set policy for three

weeks ahead, and hopefully the atmosphere may be very much less

hazy a week or two weeks hence.

It therefore seems appropriate to

consider what might be done if and when the dust clears.

Most business statistics in April were rather satisfactory

and indicative of a continuing gradual rise in business activity.

Retail sales and housing starts were particularly encouraging.

With personal income continuing upward, the foundation is being

laid for further gains in consumer spending. As for business

spending, the outlook is clouded by the possibility of reper

cussions of the steel price episode on business attitudes. A clear

line on capital spending plans subsequent to the steel episode

must wait on the Commerce-SEC survey, which will become avail

able in June. Inventory accumulation in the current quarter

will be far below that of the first quarter, primarily because

of the situation of the steel industry.

One major uncertainty is the effect on spending of the

sharp drop in stock prices. While experience in the past few

months does not show any clear effect of lower stock prices on

consumer or business spending, there is no doubt that the market

decline reflects an undercurrent of distrust, both here and

abroad, that could act as a check on the current expansion. A

more optimistic interpretation might construe much of the stock

price drop as an adjustment to a noninflationary environment;

but even if the decline stemmed from this worthwhile reason it

could nonetheless generate some highly undesirable effects of

its own. Commodity prices continue to exhibit marked stability,

especially at the wholesale level.

Regardless of the expected improvement in business,

it

seems increasingly doubtful that unemployment can be reduced to

the so-called "tolerable level" of 4 per cent even a year from

now.

Credit demands have been quite moderate, and there has

been a good balance between the supply of, and the demand for,

credit and capital. The loan officers and economists of major

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New York City banks are still concerned over the failure of

loan demand to develop as expected earlier, and they do not

look for much change in the immediate future.

Clearly, most

banks throughout the country are in a comfortable position to

meet all legitimate credit requests. It might even be contended

that they have been enjoying an excessive degree of liquidity

which has tended to put undue downward pressure on short-,

medium-, and long-term yields.

Since the heavy seasonal Treas

ury deficit in prospect for the second half of the calendar year

will necessarily be financed in good measure by the banks, the

latter will experience a significant increase in liquidity as a

consequence of this development. As for nonbank liquidity,

while it is always very difficult to judge its adequacy on the

basis of the various statistical measures available, I have a

general impression that it is relatively comfortable at the

present time.

The balance of payments outlook remains unsatisfactory.

Although the over-all deficit in April improved somewhat over

the high March figure, it remained above the first quarter

average, after adjustment has been made for the French advance

debt repayment last month. Merchandise exports seem to have

been weakening significantly, and there has been an increase in

long-term borrowing in this market by foreigners. While we

should not give too much weight to any single month, the fact

remains that the balance of payments for the year to date shows

a disappointing lack of improvement over a year ago. During the

past week the dollar has been under some pressure in the exchange

markets, partly because of nervousness as to possible protective

measures that might be adopted by the United States. With foreign

dollar holdings continuing to increase, there is reason to look

for declines in the gold stock over the coming weeks.

Some months ago the hope was expressed in our meetings that

a "natural"increase in interest rates accompanying further

cyclical business expansion might help to dampen the outward flow

of capital from this country. However, recent business and credit

developments do not point to the likelihood of such a tendency in

the near future. Monetary policy continues to face a dilemma

with respect to the emphasis that should be placed on domestic and

international considerations, and the dilemma is perhaps becoming

more acute as the balance of payments deficit continues in the

face of a rather slow rate of domestic business expansion.

I am aware that most of the Committee members have been ex

ceedingly reluctant to consider any deliberate tightening of credit

conditions in view of the domestic situation, and the severity of

the stock market break would naturally strengthen this reluctance.

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I have considerable sympathy with this view; nevertheless, I be

lieve that if and when the stock market shows signs of bottoming

out and stabilizing we might probe in the direction of somewhat

less ease, with the hope of encouraging the 90-day bill rate to

hold closer to 3 per cent than to 2-3 /4 per cent, a Federal funds

rate consistently close to the discount rate, and some pressure

on the banks' bill portfolios. The liquidity of the economy seems

ample to give some leeway for such probing. Although only

experience can disclose what this might mean in terms of free

reserves, it seems to me likely that these objectives could

probably be achieved with free reserves in the $300 to $400 million

range. I would stress that what I have in mind is cautious ex

perimentation, with close attention being paid to any possible

adverse effects of such probing on the continued expansion of bank

credit and bank deposit.

Incidentally, I have in mind that even

keel considerations may be with us again shortly after the next

meeting. With respect to bill rates, it seems to me that we have

been leaning rather too heavily on the Treasury's debt management

policies ( i.e., adding to the weekly bill issues) to keep these

rates at acceptable levels, especially in view of the fact that the

Treasury must do a great deal of cash financing in the next six

months. I would repeat that any probing towards less ease should

be undertaken only if the stock market regains some measure of

composure.

With respect to the directive, I had thought that one of the

reasons behind our change in procedure a few months ago was to

provide for greater flexibility, i.e., to avoid a tendency to con

tinue in effect for months on end a directive which was very

general in character. The present directive has remained unchanged

since March. I suggest that we amend it today to indicate the

current economic situation (including particularly the stock

market break), the ample liquidity situation, and the need for

some slight shift in emphasis in view of our serious balance

of payments problem.

More broadly, I am wondering more and more whether the

current "mix" of monetary policy and fiscal policy is the

best that could be devised to meet the combination of internal

and external problems which we face.

I am interested to

observe that the possibility of a tax reduction as a means of

stimulating the economy is apparently receiving study. Success

ful action along these lines would of course give monetary

policy greater leeway to exercise a dampening influence on the

outward capital flow.

Mr. Bryan said he had left for this meeting prepared to say that

the business situation seemed to be developing in such manner, both

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nationally and in the Sixth District, as to suggest some lowering of the

Committee' s free reserve target and the establishment of a lower growth

rate than he had heretofore been advocating in regard to total reserves.

However,

after the events of yesterday, he could not advocate any monetary

policy except one of continued ease.

Mr. Noyes had spoken well, he

thought, of the influence of the equity market break on consumption and on

investment.

The stock market developments could affect millions of people

who did not hold a single equity security and simply read about the matter

in the press.

As to investment,

it was the policy of many corporations to

try to maintain a certain proportion between their debt and equity instru

ments.

Where such corporations had been contemplating equity financing,

they would now be reluctant in many cases to go forward.

In addition,

he was afraid that the stock market break was going to have a reaction

that would not be helpful to the banking situation.

He would imagine that

many banks had gotten under way studies of their loans, and that their

standards of lending were going to be raised.

That would be particularly

true, he believed, in the case of banks that had over the past three or

four years piled up a substantial volume of demand loans secured by

high-grade equity and debt instruments.

While such loans might actually

be demand loans in New York, and to a lesser extent in Chicago,

in the

outlying banks of the country they were long-term capital loans on which

neither the borrower nor the lender expected repayment to be made, the

funds being used by the borrower for long-term capital commitments.

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In such circumstances, Mr. Bryan repeated, he was not prepared to

advocate any change in monetary policy.

It seemed to him that the Com

mittee must continue to supply reserves in seasonal amounts, plus some

modest growth factor, say 3 per cent.

Mr. Bopp reported that the Third District was experiencing the

same kind of gradual business upswing as the nation, although as usual

there was a tendency for the District to lag behind the United States.

Such up to the minute data as were available indicated no general accelera

tion in the upswing.

In banking, on the other hand, the picture was quite different.

Business loans in the District, unlike the nation as a whole, had been

experiencing a sharp pick-up.

all industrial categories.

The increase was widely based among almost

Reserve positions were comfortable, borrowing

from the Reserve Bank was negligible,

and reserve city banks were still

net sellers of Federal funds, although in smaller amount.

If it were not for the balance of payments problem, Mr. Bopp said,

he would like to see an easier monetary policy, especially after the

developments in the stock market yesterday.

Although policy to date had

been successful in promoting a high degree of liquidity in the banking

system and the economy and had helped to keep long-term rates from rising,

it was probably true that still greater ease could further stimulate the

rather sluggish demand which, at least in part, was behind the current

relatively moderate rate of economic expansion.

The question had been,

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and remained of course, whether further ease could accomplish enough

domestically to warrant possible further aggravation of the balance of

payments situation. He was inclined to doubt it. In view of the possi

bility that the balance of payments might worsen during the course of the

year, substantial further ease could well be too great a risk.

Accordingly, Mr. Bopp said, he would be inclined to continue

monetary policy essentially unchanged, especially in view of the stimulat

ing effect likely to ensue from a rising budget deficit.

At the same

time, he would also like to see the Desk continue to probe in the direction

of lower long-term rates by purchasing intermediate- and long-term issues

when appropriate and selling short terms if necessary to accomplish this.

He would continue about the same degree of ease in reserves, maintain the

present directive, and leave the discount rate unchanged.

Mr. Fulton reported that, except for the retail sales sector,

economic activity in the Fourth District had worsened considerably in

recent weeks, trends in unemployment, electric power output, and steel

production having been unfavorable.

Auto sales had been maintained in the

three major cities of the District at a vigorous rate, and it began to look

like a 7 million car year, including about 350,000 imports.

Reports for

May on department store sales showed them expanding to a new high.

year to date, such sales were up 4 per cent from a year ago.

For the

However, the

unemployment picture had shifted into the unfavorable category in May.

Contraseasonal layoffs had occurred, concentrated largely in the steel

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areas.

Unemployment was up three per cent in the District from

late April to mid-May.

As to the steel industry, Mr. Fulton

described the current picture as dismal, with no pick-up in orders

and ingot production continuing to drop.

Steel users, including

the automobile industry, still had substantial inventories.

Construction was in good volume in the major cities of the District,

which provided a bright spot.

Turning to the banking picture, Mr. Fulton said that

commercial and industrial loans had dipped.

In the three weeks

ended May 23, they declined by the largest amount of any week since

January 3 of this year.

Demand deposits adjusted were down sharply,

while savings deposits continued to increase.

As to monetary policy, Mr. Fulton expressed the view that

the System had done about all it could in terms of the domestic

economy.

The System had consistently supplied reserves in quantity;

it had met all of the seasonal factors and had provided an additional

factor for growth.

Credit had been readily available, but was

not used by businesses.

It appeared to him that international

considerations predominated at present and that free reserves might

well be reduced.

Thus, he would go along with a range of $300

$400 million in lieu of figures over $400 million.

Also, while re

cognizing that the margin requirement instrument was not within the

province of the Open Market Committee, he felt that a reduction in

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margin requirements

to put it mildly.

might be considered.

Likewise,

a confidence factor.

Confidence had been shaken,

the international situation involved

Some confidence might be restored, in his

opinion, by a reduction of margin requirements and by a firming

of interest rates through making fewer reserves available.

Mr. Fulton said that he would not recommend changing the

discount rate at this time.

He would have no objection to renewing

the present policy directive, although it might be changed somewhat

to reflect existing economic circumstances more precisely.

Mr. King said he thought it

had been fairly generally agreed

that a stock market correction would necessarily come about at some

point.

The concern he had today was that the ramifications of the

stock market decline not spread further than necessary.

He did not

believe that the System could control or stop the stock market slide,

but it

should do whatever was possible to allow natural forces to

bring about a cessation of the decline.

Mr. King went on to say that he thought the Open Market

Committee had contributed to the defense of the dollar by doing what

it

could to maintain the bill

rate.

The Treasury, of course, had

done a great deal through measures such as adding to the supply of

bills.

Three or four months ago, however, he (Mr. King) had spoken

to this point and said that he thought the Federal Reserve should

cease its efforts to maintain the bill rate within a particular range.

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The more the System tried to hold short-term rates in this manner,

the more he felt that the stock market decline was likely to continue.

With that thought in mind, he would suggest that there be deleted

from the policy directive the reference to minimizing sustained

downward pressures on short-term rates.

A time might come when

the bill rate level could no longer be maintained, and in his

opinion it was better to cease the effort before that time came,

although he would not advocate that the System and the Treasury

pursue different objectives.

At one time, he recalled, he had been

a leading proponent of maintaining the bill

this had served a desirable purpose.

been possible to keep the bill

long.

rate, and he thought

He was surprised that it had

rate in

its

present range for so

However, he felt that the time was coming when this would

no longer be possible.

Mr. Mitchell said it was his general feeling that present

System policy was about the best that could be devised at this

particular time.

He did not see that there was any change that would

be particularly helpful.

If there was to be a move in either

direction, he would think that a slight easing would be preferable.

On the other hand, the reverberations of stock market developments

seemed likely to make this country's balance of payments position

somewhat more serious than it had been.

The psychological reverberations

about which the Committee had been worrying might come into play.

On

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the domestic side, there would be, unquestionably, some reaction

on consumer spending, particularly for hard goods, if the stock

market continued weak and prices declined further.

this was a bad day to make policy decisions.

All in all,

Under those

circumstances, it would seem best to wait and make no change

for the moment.

Mr. Shepardson spoke of having attended yesterday a meeting

of representatives of institutional lenders to agriculture, at

which there were reports of a continuing rise in farm land prices.

The drop in land prices in the corn belt area had been completely

recovered, and prices in other areas were continuing to move upward.

Most institutional lenders represented at the meeting reported a

rise in farm mortgage lending.

Several insurance companies, finding

inadequate outlets for their funds elsewhere, were providing their

farm departments with increased allocations of funds.

were being made on rates.

Concessions

Some country bank representatives

mentioned that while their construction loans, particularly

residential, had not shown much increase as yet, they had all made

heavy advance commitments and had been delayed in putting out the

money, only because of weather conditions.

Mr.

Shepardson also reported that at yesterday's meeting there

was discussion of the foreign trade situation and the potential effect

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of the European Conon Market agreements on agricultural exports

from the United States.

Question was raised as to whether farm land

prices were not being pushed out of reason, considering the prospects

for crop prices.

All of this, Mr. Shepardson said, strengthened the feeling

he had had for some time that perhaps the System had accomplished

all

it

could do through monetary policy and that it

back a little,

should be drawing

at least on the rate of growth of reserves.

He had

spoken at previous Committee meetings in favor of reducing the annual

rate of growth of total reserves to 3 per cent, or even lower, and

he had felt surer of that position after attending the meeting

yesterday.

However, when he learned of the gyrations in the stock

market, he felt much like Mr. Hayes, that no perceptible change in

policy should be made at this time.

Nevertheless,

as soon as the

situation cleared somewhat, he believed that a careful look should

be taken at the amount of funds available in the market to appraise

whether the System was going to aid the domestic situation by continuing

to supply reserves so liberally since corrections in the domestic situa

tion might well have to come from other factors.

The System should

study whether the uncertainties generated by the stock market situation

and their impact on the balance of payments situation did not call

more than ever for a position of less ease as soon as the visibility

improved.

Mr. Hayes.

In summary, his position was similar to that expressed by

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Mr. Robertson expressed the view that the Committee should

refrain at this time from being panicked into any action that might

develop to be unfortunate.

This was the time when an organization

like the Federal Reserve System ought to stand out as an example

for the nation.

It should hold as steady as possible.

Mr. Mills commented that if

a loss of public faith in the

stability of financial conditions was being experienced, the thing

needed to restore confidence was the injection of some degree of

discipline into the financial markets under the leadership of the

Federal Reserve System.

Unhappily, in the light of the circumstances

in the stock market, he believed, like others who had spoken, that

any overt change in policy at the present time would be misunder

stood and would be more disturbing than tranquilizing.

However,

every opportunity should be taken by the System to inject some

discipline into what he considered a very soft and weak monetary

and credit policy situation.

To elaborate on his thinking, Mr.

Mills presented the following statement:

Over many months past, repeated opportunities have

opened up for changing the direction of Federal Reserve

System monetary and credit policy toward moderately less

ease, but have been rejected by the Federal Open Market

The last three meetings of the Committee

Committee.

offered two practical openings for a policy change, while

the intervening third meeting prevented the possibility of

any overt move because of impending U. S. Treasury financing

and the consequent need of maintaining a relatively unchanged

policy position.

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The spreading weakness in the stock market that culminated

in panic conditions and a collapse of prices on May 28 has

thrown up a new obstacle against a change in monetary and

credit policy, in that Federal Reserve System policies are

a vital part and influence in the entire complex of the factors

that comprise the entire financial market, and it would be

unwise at this juncture to make any immediate policy change,

for to do so could further unsettle financial market conditions.

A calm and undisturbed Federal Reserve System policy posture is

called for at the present time.

However, the need for a revised

policy that will produce a firmer interest rate structure is as

pressing as ever, and the first

opportunity for its achievement

should be seized upon.

The ambivalent efforts that have been made to hold up the

yields on U. S. Treasury bills

as a deterrent to the movement of

gold and U. S. dollars abroad at the same time that the main

burden of Federal Reserve System policy actions has been on the

side of credit ease have resulted in pegging U. S. Treasury bill

yields.

In the eyes of operators in the U. S. Government securities

market, the Federal Reserve System's monetary and credit policy

objectives have come increasingly into a kind of disrepute, which

has had by-product effects on the markets for municipal and cor

poration fixed interest obligations, which are becoming progressively

unsettled. In formulating Federal Reserve System monetary and

credit policy, a paramount need exists for returning as quickly

as possible to a free market concept, by virtue of which the

interest rate structure will be freed from artificial manipulations

and will develop naturally out of the uninhibited influence of

the supply and demand for the use of funds available to the

market.

In the interval before the next meeting of the Federal Open

Market Committee any opportunity for a revision in monetary and

credit policy should be exploited, even to the extent of calling

a special meeting of the Committee for that purpose. By the

same token, a special meeting of the Committee should be called

to deal with any kind of emergency in the U. S. Government

securities market that might develop in the event that the serious

conditions in the stock market should be commnicated to other

investment areas and react in unusually heavy drains on our

gold reserves.

Mr. Wayne reported that business activity in the Fifth District

had continued to improve in recent weeks, probably at a somewhat faster

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pace than in the country as a whole.

April gains in nonfarm employ

ment and factory man-hours were quite general, and unemployment had

steadily declined.

The Reserve Bank's latest canvass of District

business leaders suggested that most of the April increases con

tinued into May.

Durable goods manufacturing had probably not

advanced beyond the good levels reached in April except in the

furniture industry, which continued to show significant improvement.

Reports from the textile industry presented a rather neutral picture,

but respondents covering the nondrable goods group as a whole

indicated that new orders, shipments, and employment had recently

achieved further gains.

On the other hand, coal orders and ship

ments had declined in recent weeks, causing some layoffs, reduced

workweeks, and small price cuts.

Regarding general business

prospects, about three-fourths of the respondents to the Bank's

periodic surveys had regularly expected either no change or only

slight improvement since the first of the year.

Turning to the policy field, Mr. Wayne noted that for many

months the Committee had been faced by a conflict between the require

ments of the domestic and the international sectors of the economy.

In recent weeks both sectors had been marked by increased uncertainty

about the near future.

Falling stock prices had been both a reflection

and a cause of this uneasiness.

The sharp decline in the trade balance

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for March was a contributing factor in the international sector,

while an the domestic side a cautious attitude was reflected by

declining forward purchase commitments by business firms, a slow

drop in orders for machinery and equipment, a sluggish rise in

capital outlays, and wholesale prices that were slightly on the

weak side.

The international situation was clearly delicate and

potentially dangerous. Beyond what was already being done, however,

he did not believe that monetary policy could make any significant

contribution toward its improvement short of some comprehensive and

drastic move which would have to be aimed at raising long-term as

well as short-term interest rates.

Such a move was not warranted

by the domestic situation and, he believed, would be highly

undesirable.

Further, he did not believe that any small increase in short-term

rates would have any significant effect on the balance of payments.

On the domestic side, perhaps the greatest contribution the Committee

could make would be to insure that no fear of any credit squeeze

was added to the other uncertainties which were developing.

For

that reason, he believed that the Committee should continue to make

available a supply of reserves sufficient to maintain a condition of

moderate ease, as it had been doing for a number of weeks.

He would

favor renewing the current directive and leaving the discount rate

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Mr. Clay commented that although domestic economic develop

ments had continued to show improvement in recent weeks, the pattern

had been by no means uniform.

It

still

was correct to characterize

aggregate economic activity as less than vigorous.

Moreover, the

basic fact remained that the economy had a long distance to go in

order to attain a satisfactory rate of utilization of manpower and

other resources.

Under the circumstances, he felt that the domestic

economy continued to call for monetary policy to be expansionary

with a view to fostering a higher level of economic activity.

This

would be reflected in a further growth of bank credit on a seasonally

adjusted basis and further downward movement in interest rates.

For some time, Mr. Clay noted, the Committee had endeavored

to affect favorably the international flow of funds by the general

level at which it had maintained the Treasury bill rate.

This

action had pointed up the conflict between the Committee's current

domestic and international objectives.

The open market operations

required to maintain the Treasury bill rate at a higher level than

it

otherwise would have been had tended to be restrictive in nature.

The Committee had sought to avoid or reduce this effect by making

purchases in other sectors of the Government securities market.

At the last meeting of the Committee, Mr. Clay recalled,

it had been suggested that the relative level of interest rates in

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international markets throughout the maturity structure should be

considered henceforth in formulating monetary policy.

specifically,

More

the view advanced looked with favor upon a higher

level of interest rates in the United States throughout the

maturity range,

so that these rates would be higher relative to

rates in foreign markets.

Clearly, this approach to the problem

would involve a more restrictive monetary policy, which in his

opinion would jeopardize the improvements in the domestic economy

resulting from the expansionary policy that had been pursued.

Moreover, there was a real question whether the increase in interest

rates necessary to affect materially the international flow of

funds would not be of such magnitude as to be severely restrictive

in terms of monetary policy and its impact on the domestic economy.

At a time when the performance of the domestic economy was

far from satisfactory, Mr. Clay thought that the question was whether

monetary policy should not be directed toward providing more instead

of less stimulus to the pace of activity.

Certainly, as he saw it,

no action should be taken to foster higher intermediate- and long

term interest rates; the downward trend of recent months had been

salutary and should be encouraged to continue.

The Treasury bill

rate might be maintained within the same range as it

had been for

some months, with offsetting open market operations as necessary in

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order to maintain reserve availability.

No change was recoended

in the Federal Reserve Bank discount rate, and he felt

directive could well be renewed in its

that the

present form.

Mr. Scanlon reported that in general business activity in

the Seventh District appeared to be following the national pattern.

However, home building in most District centers was below a year ago,

in contrast to the strong national picture.

It

appeared to him, Mr.

Scanlon continued, that during the

past several weeks there had been a marked difference in the attitude

of consumers and the attitude of businessmen.

indications of recent surveys,

According to the

the consumer's confidence in his

financial well-being had improved, and he was no more interested

in buying automobiles and other durable goods.

(Of course, the

behavior of the stock market in the past few days might have

changed the survey indications somewhat.)

As to businessmen, many

of them had expressed disappointment despite the facts reported

on items such as employment, the work-week, construction, and

housing starts, all

of which were highly encouraging.

The consumer

appeared to be acting on a more favorable evaluation of the economic

situation.

In the Seventh District, department store sales during the

four weeks after Easter were 12 per cent above a year ago, compared

to a rise of 10 per cent nationally.

Auto sales during the first

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days of May maintained the advanced April level.

Reflecting the

trend of sales, auto assemblies during the past three weeks were

at an annual rate of 8 million, the highest since December.

estimates of Detroit sources were still

However,

based on sales of 6.8 to 7

million cars this year, including imports.

Mr. Scanlon also reported that local manufacturing output in

major centers, based purely on use of electric power,

showed gains

in the most recent month reported, the increases from a year ago

ranging from 16 to 18 per cent.

Steel output had declined about 30

per cent from the March level in the District as well as nationally,

and some further decline was still in prospect.

Order trends were

being evaluated somewhat less favorably than three weeks ago.

Employment reports were moderately encouraging; unemployment

compensation claims were below the levels of the past two years.

Housing contracts were down 9 per cent from a year ago, compared

with a rise of 18 per cent nationally.

an increase reported.

Only in Indianapolis was

Mortgage terms in Chicago had eased only

slightly since the first of the year.

As to banking developments, Mr.

Scanlon reported that

business loan demand was relatively strong, although not as strong

as the bankers would desire.

From the end of January until the middle

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of May, business loans had risen at a rate twice as fast as nationally.

Chicago banks had regained a modest surplus reserve position since

the middle of April, and the larger banks had been sellers of

Federal funds.

Between the middle of April and the middle of May,

the banks reduced their bill

holdings and purchased other securities.

Turning to policy, Mr. Scanlon commented that although most

business news had been favorable during the past several weeks,

on resources continued to be moderate.

demands

Wholesale price increases

were at least balanced by price declines.

One must necessarily take

into account the possibility of the further development of adverse

business sentiment due to the stock market, along with some dis

satisfaction regarding order and profit trends.

In his view, current

monetary policy should be continued until the next meeting of the

Committee,

and he would not recommend a change in the discount rate

at this time.

The current policy directive might be continued unless

the Committee wanted to give some recognition to the current stock

market situation.

If changes were made, he would like to see the

phrase "short-term" eliminated from the final clause of the directive,

which called for taking account of the desirability of avoiding

downward pressures on short-term interest rates.

Mr, Deming reported that the most notable Ninth District

economic development in the past three weeks had been a dramatic

turnaround in crop prospects for 1962.

From the first

of April through

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the middle of May there had been little rain, but since then there

had been a great deal of rain, and everyone was now optimistic.

Otherwise, the District was continuing pretty much along the lines

indicated at previous Committee meetings.

As to the coming three weeks, Mr. Deming expressed agreement

with those who believed that monetary policy should not be changed.

By that, he meant that there should be no change quite explicitly

in terms of most of the significant guides.

For example, he would

not like to see the free reserve level change significantly even

though the maintenance of that level might result in lower bill

rates and a somewhat easier money market than had been sought in

the past three weeks.

In other words, he would like ot see the

indicators that were watched by the public maintained without change,

and he had same feeling that the Committee ought to say this in the

current policy directive. For example, the first paragraph of the

directive might be changed to read somewhat as follows:

"In view

of the continuing modest advance of economic activity and the continued

underutilization of resources, and in light of recent stock market

developments, but with continued recognition of the adverse balance

of payments situation, it is the policy of the Federal Open Market

Committee to continue in a posture essentially unchanged from that

of recent weeks."

Such changes in the first paragraph would reflect

the Committee's awareness of stock market developments in the past

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three weeks,

and he thought this would be desirable from the stand

point of the record.

He would recommend no change in the discount

rate at this time.

Mr. Swan reported that the Twelfth District, like the nation,

showed some further, but very moderate improvement in the business

situation in April.

According to scattered indicators, the same

trend continued into early May. There had been a slight reduction

in the rate of unemployment, the seasonally adjusted rate having

fallen from 5.8 per cent in March to 5.7 per cent in April.

Lumber

markets in the District had firmed somewhat as new orders exceeded

production, and western steel production had declined much less

than the decline for the country as a whole.

In the three weeks

ended May 16, District weekly reporting banks reflected gains in

loans, including a marked increase in real estate loans.

As a general

statement, there did not appear to be any very significant differences

between the District situation and the over-all picture for the country.

In terms of policy, Mr. Swan said it seemed to him that the

Committee should maintain much the same position that it had maintained

quite recently.

Since the economic upswing certainly was not vigorous

and further uncertainties had been introduced by stock market develop

ments, he did not think that any significant change in policy would

be desirable.

Like Mr. Deming, he felt that a continuation of policy

without change should be related to the free reserve level, which for

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immediate future should be held about where it had been, that is,

$450 million or thereabouts.

If

this meant some decline in the bill

rate below 2-3/4 per cent, no attempt should be made to offset that

decline by a significant reduction in free reserves.

As to the current policy directive, Mr. Swan concurred with

the view of Mr.

Hayes that it

was not desirable to have the directive

remain unchanged for a lengthy period, particularly in light of current

developments.

Therefore, he would like to see those developments

recognized in the first

paragraph.

In the second paragraph, he was

bothered by the phrase that called for avoiding sustained downward

pressures on short-term rates.

While there could be different inter

pretations of the word "sustained," it might be argued that any

reduction below 2-3/4 per cent in the bill

as reflecting sustained pressure.

eliminating that particular phrase.

rate would be regarded

Accordingly, he would favor

He would not recommend changing

the discount rate at this time.

Mr.

Irons reported that economic activity in the Eleventh

District was proceeding favorably.

There was strength in the

employment picture, with total nonagricultural employment moving to

a near record and unemployment,

on an unadjusted basis, falling to

about 4.3 per cent of the labor force.

was favorable.

sharply.

The trend of consumer demand

Industrial output was up, and construction was up

Except for some developing dryness, which was not a great

problem, the agricultural situation was quite good.

In summary,

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economic activity was proceeding at a moderate upward pace.

Mr. Irons also said that Eleventh District banks seemed to

be adequately liquid.

past three weeks,

There had been increased loan demand in the

especially for business and construction loans,

with a reduction in investments.

Demand deposits were off a bit,

and savings deposits were up a little.

was slowing down.

The growth of savings deposits

There seemed to be little

change in the demand for

Federal funds, with purchases running at an average of about $500

million and sales about $450 million.

of seasonal borrowing, there was little

Except for some small amount

activity at the discount

window.

Turning to policy, Mr. Irons commented that when he left

Dallas for this meeting he had in mind some tentative conclusions.

It

seemed to him that the System had done about as much in the way

of supplying reserves as would be appropriate under the circumstances,

and he leaned toward a somewhat less generous approach to the providing

of reserves, even though that might result in some firming of interest

rates.

However, the events of the past few days had changed his line

of reasoning.

The economic statistics looked quite good, but attitudes,

the confidence factor, and related matters were less favorable and

the developments in the stock market could not be ignored.

Accord

ingly, he concluded that this was a good time to maintain the status

quo, while reexamining the System's position, evaluating the consequences

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of what was going on in the stock market, and appraising thematter

of business confidence.

Perhaps another look should be taken at

economic trends to see whether any factors were developing of which

the Comittee had not been aware.

In particular, he would want to

watch consumer reaction--and also the international reaction--to

the recent stock market developments.

There were a lot of unanswered

questions that were being brought to the fore by the finacial

Thus, the situation seemed

market changes.

to call for study of

possible consequences rather than for action at this moment.

In

summary, Mr. Irons said, his views were much the same

those expressed by Mr. Robertson.

He would

maintain the status quo

at

kind

as nearly as possible and avoid overt action of any

time.

as

this

He would not change the discount rate or the current policy

directive.

Mr. Ellis reported that New

England

business conditions had

shown continued modest improvement since the previous meeting of the

Committee. No

sector of the economy showed signs of disturbing weak

ness, and no sector

manufacturing

showedsigns of unsustainable

strengthened in April,

industries

suggested a rise in the index of production.

expansion.

Most

andman-hour data

Nonmanufacturing

been a little weaker in April than seasonal

employment seemed to have

expectations.

Mr. Ellis also reported that First District reporting banks

found

business

just

demand

loan

aboutmeeting seasonal expectations.

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Total loans and investments continued to grow at a good pace.

The

growth of deposits was holding loan-deposit ratios fairly stable.

District banks had been fairly heavy net sellers of Federal funds

in the past five weeks.

Turning to policy, Mr. Ellis commented that he, like so

others, had left for this meeting prepared to urge a change in the

policy guidelines.

After the stock market events of yesterday,

however, he had shifted to a position of no change in policy at

this time.

As to what no change in policy might mean, he noted

that there are several anchors of policy, among them free reserves,

avoidance of sustained downward pressures on short-term rates, and

concern with finacial markets in general.

The question was to

which anchors of policy the Committee desired to cling most

strongly in the next few weeks.

According to the projections, the

System was going to have to inject several hundred million dollars of

reserves in the next two weeks.

injected in a way that would

Hewould urge that they not be

promote further pressure on short-term

rates, for he would not want to give up the objective of avoiding

that kind of pressure.

be no chage

His definition

of nochange in policy would

from the weeks in April rather than the most recent

three-week period, which was characterized by greater ease in the

money

market centers, traceable perhaps in some degree to Treasury

operations.

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Mr. Ellis said that he

would like to see the Committee

recognize changes in the economic situation in the first paragraph

of the current policy directive.

One of the purposes of instituting

the present procedure was to be able to recognize such changes,

and he felt that the Committee's record of understanding and

evaluating the situation it was attempting to meet would read better

if there was some recogntion of the changes that had occurred

since March.

The language suggested by Mr. Deming would go some

way in that direction.

Mr. Deming, however, had omitted the phrase

that called for promoting further expansion

money supply.

He (Mr.

of bank credit and the

Ellis) would like to see that phrase retained,

but to have the word "promote" changed to "permit," as suggested by

Mr.

Shepardson at the May 8 meeting.

Mr. Balderston said that he would advocate holding just as

steady as possible.

However, he was impressed by the reasons for

changing the wording of the current policy directive.

His suggestion

would be to eliminate the second paragraph and change the first

paragraph somewhat as follows:

In view of the continued under

utilization of resources, the modest rate of domestic expansion,

and the recent sharp decline in stock market prices, the Federal

Open Market Committee is continuing its policy of promoting the ex

pansion of bank credit and the money supply.

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In discussion of his proposal,

sharp decline in stock market prices,

Mr. Balderston said the

alongwith the results that

might flow therefrom, constituted the principal reason why he

would continue

present policy.

veer toward less ease.

Otherwise, he

His proposed directive

might

be inclined to

wouldmake no reference

to the international situation because he had a feeling that the

Committee had been "driving on both sides of the road long enough"

and as a result its directives were not clear.

He would drop the

second paragraph of the present directive because it

seemd to him

that it was redundant,

Mr. Francis commented that

Eighth District business conditions

continued to improve to about the same extent as indicated by

many

of the other District reports that had been given.

Chairman Martin noted from a news ticker report that had

been brought to him that stock market prices had experienced another

substantial decline this morning.

He went on to say that before this

meeting he had attended a meeting at the White House with the

President and other officials of the Administration.

He felt

constrained to say to the Committee that the President throught[sic]

the Federal Reserve System, like the rest of the Government, had

an obligation in this matter.

Against this background, he told

the President that the Board of Governors had discussed yesterday

the question of margin requirements, at which time the Board members

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were of the view that "steady in the boat" was the proper course.

The President's position was that the Federal Reserve should

follow whatever course it

thought would be most helpful; he raised

the question whether, if the Board was not going to change the

margin requirements, it would be desirable for the Board to say that

it was not going to change them.

He (Chairman Martin) left with

the President, as a matter of general information, a paper on the

pros and cons of a margin requirement change that had been prepared

by the Board's staff.

Chairman Martin said he had made no commitment other than

to bring to this meeting of the Committee the President's view

that this was a serious situation.

The President had left to

the discretion of the Federal Reserve the question whether any

action should be taken by the System, indicating that the System

ought to do whatever it

If

it

considered wisest in the present circumstances.

was the view of the Federal Reserve that it

would be better

not to issue any statement, that was for the System to decide.

If,

on the other hand, there was a feeling that the System should make

a statement, the President would be glad to have such a statement

made.

The Chairman then read from a news ticker report the answers

that had been given this morning by Secretary of the Treasury Dillon

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to questions raised by reporters.

Mr. Dillon reportedly attributed

to the White House conferees a feeling that stock prices had been

on the high side and had now dropped to a level more in keeping

with price-earnings ratios.

Mr. Dillon stressed that the Govern

ment had no controls directly affecting stock market prices.

He

also pointed out that margin requirements were a matter within the

sole discretion of the Board of Governors.

Mr. Dillon urged speedy

Congressional action on the proposal to allow tax credit to businesses

on purchases of equipment.

He did not feel that the stock market

developments reflected any decline in confidence outside the stock

market.

He noted that stock prices had already started on a down

ward trend before the steel price episode.

Chairman Martin then said that he would like to indicate to

the Committee his own thinking on monetary policy, which was much

along the lines that some members of the Committee had expressed

prior to the recent stock market decline.

Its

view was,

in essence,

that the System had gone as far as it should with a policy of easy

money and that such a policy had outlived its usefulness.

This

did not mean, however, that the System should take any overt

action at this particular time.

On the basis of his recent visit

abroad and the views expressed by people with whom he had been talking

recently, he felt there was something more fundamental in the stock

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market situation than easy money.

Unquestionably, however,

the

developments in the market reflected the backwash of speculation

in a wholesale manner that had been going on all around the

country.

The margin requirements, he thought, had been reasonably

effective in controlling the amount of credit going into speculation

in stocks, but they had not affected real estate and other speculative

activities.

Therefore,

he was inclined to feel that easy money was

part of the total picture; he doubted very much whether it

could be

said that easy money had nothing to do with the situation.

While

he felt that the Federal Reserve had been thoroughly justified in

the course it

had been pursuing, the System could not just go along

thinking that easy money was going to produce an exuberant economy.

Continuing, Chairman Martin said that he would like to

reiterate a view he had expressed a number of times before, namely,

that the balance of payments problem overshadowed everything else.

He would not want to say that this was the crisis he had referred

to several times as a possibility, but the situation conceivably

could develop such proportions.

As to policy for the immediate future, the Chairman said it

was his feeling, on the basis of the discussion at this meeting, that

the wisest course would be to stay steady in the boat and make no

change in policy of any sort at this moment, but rather to continue

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to evaluate the

problem

Whetherthere should be a change in the

current policy directive along the lines that had been suggested

or whether it would be wiser to renew the directive in its present

form was open to debate .

clearly

was

sentiment

However, it

seemed that the

majority

no policy at this particular

forchange

in

time.

Chairman

Martin inquired whether there were any questions

about the accuracy of his statement of the consensus as to policy

for the immediate future, and no such question was indicated.

There

followed,

however, consideration of the wording of

the current economic policy directive in light of the several

suggestions that had been made,

and it was the prevailing view that

some reference to recent developments in the stock market should

appropriately be incorporated in order to place on record that

this was a factor

recognized by the Committee in shaping its

policy for the forthcoming period.

Certain other possible changes

in the directive, such as to provide for "permitting" rather than

"promoting"

further expansion of bank credit and the money supply,

were decided against in view of the basic decision of the Committee

to continue monetary policy unchanged at this time.

At the conclusion of this discussion, there was read to the

Committee

language for the first paragraph of the directive reflecting

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a formulation with which there appeared to be general agreement,

and the expressions of the Committee members were favorable.

Accordingly, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee, to ex

ecute transactions in the System Open Market

Account in accordance with the following

current economic policy directive:

In view of the modest nature of recent advances in the pace

of economic activity, the continued underutilization of resources,

and the uncertainties created by the disturbed conditions in

some financial markets, it remains the current policy of the

Federal Open Market Committee to promote further expansion of

bank credit and the money supply, while giving recognition to

the country's adverse balance of payments.

To implement this policy, operations for the System Open

Market Account during the next three weeks shall be conducted

with a view to maintaining a supply of reserves adequate for

further credit and monetary expansion, taking account of the

desirability of avoiding sustained downward pressures on short

term interest rates.

Votes for this action: Messrs.

Martin, Hayes, Balderston, Bryan,

Deming, Ellis, Fulton, King, Mills,

Mitchell, Robertson, and Shepardson.

Votes against this action: None.

Chairman Martin said he wished to place on record at this

point that he had told the President of the United States this

morning that the Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks and the

members of the Board of Governors might be counted upon to do what

ever they could, regardless of whether any statement was issued by

the Federal Reserve System, to maintain a sense of order in the present

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situation.

He did not say to the President that any particular

course of action would be taken by the Federal Reserve System,

but he did say, as he had indicated, that the President could

all of the Reserve Bank Presidents and members of the

count on

Board of Governors to do whatever was possible to maintain balance.

The President, in turn, expressed his desire that those in the

Federal Reserve bend their best efforts in that direction.

General agreement was expressed as to the appropriateness

of the comment that the Chairman had made to the President.

Question

was raised, however, as to what kind of statement the President

might have in mind that the Federal Reserve could issue.

Chairman Martin responded to the effect that there had

been no

effort by the President to press the Federal Reserve

System to do anything that it

did not want to do.

The President

was approaching the current problem entirely from the standpoint

of his responsibility as Chief Executive.

The President did say

that if he were doing it himself, he would be inclined to reduce

margin requirements, in which connection he noted that this was the

only selective credit control available.

said, he

In turn, Chairman Martin

indicated to the President that there was a question

whether the Board would feel that a reduction in margin requirements

at this time was advisable.

However, he had told the President that

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he would relay the latter's comments to the Board.

The President

then suggested that if the Board was not going to change margin

requirements, it might be helpful for the Board to issue a statement

to such effect and give the reasons.

Chairman Martin emphasized that he regarded his conference

at the White House as entirely satisfactory.

More specifically

in response to the question that had been raised, Chairman Martin

said he did not think that any of those who had conferred at the

White House had in mind exactly what kind of a statement by the

Federal Reserve might be helpful.

Personally, he was less inclined

toward the issuance of statements than some others might be; he

felt there could be too many statements.

There followed discussion with respect to the possible

public reaction to any statement that might be issued by the Federal

Reserve,

including a statement that the Board did not intend to reduce

margin requirements.

The Chairman then repeated that in his view there was some

thing more fundamental in the stock market decline than the level

of margin requirements.

He had been concerned for some time about

the fact that a number of foreigners with whom he had talked seemed

to feel that the post-war cyclical peak of the Western economies

was being reached.

Therefore, they were inclined to be rather bearish

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about their own countries as well as the United States.

connection,

In this

Chairman Martin noted that substantial price declines

were occurring on the European stock exchanges; the downward move

ment in stock prices was fairly general and was not limited to

this country.

Chairman Martin commented further that he did not know what

type of statement might be issued by the Federal Reserve that would

be helpful.

In any event, however,

this was clearly not a situation

where a statement could be drafted by a number of people sitting around

the table, as at this meeting.

He thought the comments that had

been made to the press yesterday and today by the Chairman of the

Council of Economic Advisers and by the Secretary of the Treasury

were essentially correct.

On the basis of the reports made during

the go-around at this meeting, there was nothing that would lead

him to think that there should logically be general dumping of

stocks at current prices.

In further discussion, Mr. Mills suggested that in view of

the uncertain nature of future developments the Open Market Committee

might want to consider authorizing Chairman Martin to issue a state

ment if,

in his judgment, such a statement should seem desirable,

with the understanding that the choice of words therein would be

left to Chairman Martin and any person or persons with whom he might

want to consult.

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The comments that ensued indicated that the members of the

Committee found it difficult to envisage any type of Federal Reserve

statement that might be helpful in the present situation.

At the

same time, it was recognized that some turn of events might produce

a situation wherein the issuance of a statement would seem desirable.

Against this possibility, members of the Committee indicated that

they would be agreeable to giving an authorization to Chairman

Martin along the lines that had been suggested by Mr. Mills.

Chairman Martin commented that this was not a responsibility

he was particularly seeking.

Yet it was hard to envisage what might

develop within the next week or ten days.

It was then moved by Mr. Shepardson and seconded by Mr.

Hayes that Chairman Martin be authorized, during the period until

the next meeting of the Open Market Committee, to issue a statement

on behalf of the Committee with regard to stock market developments

and related economic or financial developments if events should occur

that in his judgment made it desirable to issue such a statement.

This motion was carried by unanimous

vote, subject to the understanding that in

certain circumstances Chairman Martin might

deem it advisable to call a special meeting

of the Open Market Committee before the next

regular meeting of the Committee, scheduled

for Tuesday, June 19, 1962.

Under date of December 11, 1961, there had been transmitted

to the Committee members and other Reserve Bank Presidents a draft

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revision of the 1957 Federal Open Market Committee Guides for

Emergency Operations with a request for comments.

The Open

Market Committee Guides had been reviewed pursuant to a suggestion

made when the Board of Governors approved revised Guidelines for

Emergency Monetary Policy as of May 15, 1961.

In light of comments

received following distribution of the preliminary draft revision

of the Open Market Committee Guides,

a revised draft was distributed

by the Secretary of the Committee under date of May 17, 1962.

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the revised Federal

Open Market Committee Guides for Emergency

Operations, in the form distributed with

the Secretary's memorandum of May 17, 1962,

were approved.

Mr. Williams then withdrew from the meeting.

There had been distributed to the Committee a report from the

Special Manager of the System Open Market Account on System and

Treasury operations in foreign currencies and on foreign exchange

market conditions for the period May 8 through May 23, 1962, along

with a supplementary report for the period May 24 through May 28, 1962.

Copies of these reports have been placed in the files of the Federal

Open Market Committee.

As indicated in those reports, there had been no System foreign

currency transactions during the period since the Open Market Committee

meeting on May 8, 1962.

Accordingly, no action to approve, ratify, and

confirm any such transactions was necessary.

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At the request of the Chairman, Mr.

in

Coombs presented comments

supplementation of the aforementioned written reports,

in the

course of which he referred to certain documents that had been distributed

to the Committee with respect to a possible dollar-sterling swap

arrangement.

The first

memorandum, dated May 16, 1962,

described

a meeting in London on Monday, May 7, in which Mr. Coombs,

Mr. Roosa,

Under Secretary of the Treasury for Monetary Affairs, and representatives

of the British Treasury and the Bank of England participated.

As

the result of this meeting a telephone call had been received by

Mr. Coombs on Tuesday, May 15, from an official of the Bank of

England who informed him that the British financial authorities

were agreeable to a $50 million swap at flat rates and an identical

interest rate, which might be set at 2 per cent.

In connection with

this swap possibility, there had also been distributed a memorandum

from the Secretary of the Committee dated May 25, 1962, with respect

to recent economic developments in the United Kingdom.

In this

memorandum the view was expressed that the economic outlook in the

United Kingdom would justify the holding by the System of pounds

sterling under a swap agreement with the Bank of England.

Further, with a transmittal memorandum dated May 28, 1962,

there had been distributed to the Committee a copy of a cable from

Mr. Coombs to the Bank of England dated May 18, 1962, suggesting the

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text of a press release that might be used in event of the completion

of a dollar-sterling swap arrangement, along with a copy of a cable

sent to the Bank of England by Mr. Coombs on May 21, 1962, outlining

the proposed terms of such an arrangement.

The draft proposal was

for a sterling-dollar swap in the amount of $50 million, the swap

to have a maturity of three months and to be liquidated on date of

maturity at the original rate of exchange.

The Bank of England would

place the resultant dollar balance in a nontransferable U. S. Treasury

certificate of indebtedness which would be issued by the U. S.

Treasury at par to mature three months after date of issue, but

redeemable upon two days' notice, and which would bear interest at

the rate of 2 per cent per annum.

The sterling balance accruing

to the Federal Reserve System would bear the same rate of interest.

The swap arrangement, including the U. S. certificate of indebtedness,

would be renewable upon agreement of both parties.

To protect both

parties against the remote risk of a revaluation of either currency,

the Federal Reserve would place with the Bank of England a standing

order, to be executed when necessary for that purpose, to purchase

for Federal Reserve account sterling in any amount sufficient to

replenish any earlier drafts upon Federal Reserve sterling balances

created by the swap.

The Federal Reserve would accept from the Bank

of England a similar standing order.

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Mr. Coombs recommended that the Federal Open Market Committee

approve a dollar-sterling swap arrangement on the terms outlined in

the cable of May 21, 1962, effective May 31, 1962, in which connection

he stated reasons for believing that such an arrangement would be

advantageous.

Mr. Robertson stated that he continued to be skeptical

about the whole program of System foreign currency operations.

However,

inasmuch as the program had been initiated, he would be

willing to vote to approve the proposed dollar-sterling swap

arrangement.

Inquiry was made about the desirability of issuing a press

release, and Mr. Coombs commented that it

was his impression that

the announcement of arrangements of this kind had a stabilizing

influence on the exchange markets.

The reaction conceivably might

be different in present circumstances,

but the record had been

favorable thus far.

Chairman Martin indicated that he would be apprehensive about

the result if

such an arrangement were entered into without a press

release being issued and knowledge of the arrangement nevertheless

became known.

Other members of the Committee expressed agreement with

the views stated by Chairman Martin and Mr. Coombs.

Thereupon, the proposed dollar

sterling swap arrangement was unanimously

approved effective May 31, 1962, with the

understanding that a press release would

be issued along the lines set forth in

Mr. Coombs' cable of May 18, 1962.

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Mr. Coombs next referred to his memorandum, distributed to

the Committee under date of May 21, 1962, regarding the possibility

of a dollar-guilder swap arrangement with the Netherlands Bank, which

might involve a pilot swap of $10 million plus a standby swap of $40

million.

The memorandum pointed out, among other things, that the

Netherlands Bank would be unable to place any Federal Reserve holdings

of guilders in either commercial paper or a time deposit.

it

However,

was thought probable that the Federal Reserve could obtain a

guilder time deposit facility at the Bank for International Settle

ments.

With this exception, the suggested swap arrangement would

be along the lines of the arrangement with the Bank of France.

One

immediate objective would be to mop up as much as possible of the

prospective flow of dollars into the Netherlands when, on June 27,

1962, the Dutch Philips Corporation was to receive payment on

subscriptions for a new stock issue that might yield roughly $200

million equivalent.

An estimated $80 million might be raised from

United States subscribers, with a $50 million inflow in prospect

from subscriptions in other European countries.

Since it

was the

traditional policy of the Netherlands Bank to convert into gold all

dollar and other foreign exchange acquisitions in excess of $200

million, and since present dollar holdings of the Bank amounted to

around $183 million, the dollar receipts generated by the Philips

issue would mean that the Netherlands Bank would shortly be compelled

to make heavy purchases of gold from the United States.

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In connection with the possible reciprocal transaction between

the Federal Reserve and the Netherlands Bank, there had also been dis

tributed a memorandum from the Secretary of the Committee dated May 25,

1962, which discussed recent economic developments in the Netherlands and

expressed the view that the immediate economic outlook would justify the

System's holding of guilders under such an agreement with the Netherlands

Bank.

In a memorandum from the Committee's General Counsel dated May 28,

1962, concerning the legal aspects of several proposed swap arrangements

with foreign banks,

the view was expressed that there would be no legal

objection to placing Federal Reserve guilder holdings in a time deposit

with the Bank for International Settlements.

In comments supplementing his memorandum, Mr.

Coombs noted that

the possible swap arrangement would extend the dollar defense line to

another important European currency and provide the possibility of mop

ping up the flow of dollars into the Netherlands Bank as payment was made

for the Philips issue.

in principle.

The Netherlands Bank was agreeable to the swap

The main technical problem was the inability of the

Netherlands Bank to place Federal Reserve holdings of guilders in either

commercial paper or a time deposit.

Therefore, Mr. Coombs had been talk

ing not only with the Netherlands Bank but also with the Bank for Inter

national Settlements about the possibility of a time deposit facility.

Yesterday, word was received of agreement in principle on the part of

both the Netherlands Bank and the Bank for International Settlements

that such a time deposit facility would be feasible.

The Federal Reserve

would be able to obtain a rate of interest thereon equivalent to the rate

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made available to the Netherlands Bank on its holdings of dollars.

In

this case, Mr. Coombs felt, it might be useful to follow the pattern of

the French swap and to base the interest rate upon the last Treasury

bill issue immediately preceding the swap.

He would regard the 2 per cent

rate of interest in the proposed dollar-sterling swap as a deviation from

the general pattern.

The deposit with the Bank for International Settle

ments would be a three-month time deposit subject to withdrawal on two

days' notice.

In response to a request from Mr. Mitchell for further elaboration

of the reasons for the swap arrangement, Mr. Coombs said the Netherlands

had been running more or less in even balance in international payments

for the past year.

However, the payment for the Philips issue would

involve a substantial influx of funds.

The question was whether it would

not be useful to try to deter the prospective drain on U. S. gold reserves.

Before the expiration of three or six months, the guilder might come under

some selling pressure; the Netherlands was not in a strong surplus posi

tion.

The worst that could happen was that the United States would

eventually lose as much gold as if there were no swap arrangement in

effect.

With regard to the traditional policy of the Netherlands Bank

to convert into gold dollar and other foreign exchange acquisitions in

excess of $200 million, Mr. Swan inquired whether,

if

the swap arrange

ment were entered into, there was reason to believe that the Bank might

be induced to alter its

policy.

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Mr. Coombs replied that he thought the consummation of a swap

arrangement might have such an effect.

The Swiss, as a quid pro quo

for Stabilization Fund forward operations, had let

their dollar balances

run up, and the same sort of development could occur here.

He did not

think that a swap arrangement would lessen the possibility of the

Netherlands Bank considering some adjustment of its

traditional policy.

After further discussion had indicated that the Open Market

Committee was inclined to look with favor on a proposed dollar-guilder

swap arrangement such as described, Mr. Coombs asked whether he under

stood that the Committee would prefer to authorize the negotiation of

such a swap or to approve in principle.

He would hope the latter, with

the possibility of obtaining final approval of the arrangement by poll

of the Committee.

If possible, he would like to move forward on this

matter before the next Committee meeting.

Thereupon, unanimous approval was

given in principle to a dollar-guilder

swap arrangement with the Netherlands

Bank along the lines described in Mr.

Coombs' memorandum of May 21, 1962, it

being understood that the arrangement

was subject to final approval by the

Federal Open Market Committee.

Mr.

Coombs then referred to his memorandum, distributed to the

Committee under date of May 23, 1962, with regard to possible Belgian

franc operations.

Attached to the memorandum was a letter from the

National Bank of Belgium suggesting a swap arrangement in the amount of

$50 million for six months, renewable, with an identical interest rate

on both sides.

The dollars accruing to the National Bank of Belgium

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would be invested in special U. S. Treasury certificates of indebtedness,

while the Belgian francs accruing to the Federal Reserve would be invested

in bills (promissory notes) issued by the National Society of Credit and

Industry.

The U. S. certificates and the Belgian bills would be issued

for six months, but would be redeemable or discountable at any time, on

demand, at par value and without modification of interest.

The interest

rate would be 2.75 per cent on both sides.

In a memorandum from the Committee's General Counsel dated May 28,

1962, question was raised whether investment of Belgian francs in notes

of a Belgian company engaged in providing credit for commerce and industry

would be clearly authorized. However, the question was understood to have

become academic.

As stated in Mr. Coombs' memorandum of May 23, he had

inquired of the National Bank of Belgium whether it would be possible to

place Federal Reserve holdings of Belgian francs on time deposit with the

Bank for International Settlements.

The offhand reaction was that this

might prove feasible, and a definite answer was promised as soon as

possible.

In connection with the swap possibility, there had also been

distributed a memorandum from the Secretary of the Committee dated May 25,

1962, regarding recent economic developments in Belgium in which the view

was expressed that the immediate economic outlook seemed more favorable

than for some time and that it would justify the holding of Belgian francs

under a swap agreement with the National Bank of Belgium.

In supplementary comments on this swap possibility, Mr. Coombs

noted that it would provide still another link in the line of bilateral

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exchange arrangements.

He thought it would be possible to work out the

procedure whereby Belgian franc holdings of the Federal Reserve System would

be placed on time deposit with the Bank for International Settlements.

He

would recommend approval of a dollar-Belgian franc swap in principle, in the

amount of $50 million.

In response to a question as to why this swap arrangement was

proposed on a six-month basis, Mr. Coombs said he thought this was intended

to be something of a generous gesture on the part of the National Bank of

Belgium.

The letter from the National Bank might be regarded as an

indication of what that Bank would be willing to consider.

However, he

would prefer a three-month swap on a renewable basis to keep the arrange

ment more in line with the other swap arrangements negotiated or pending,

and that was what he would suggest.

Question was raised as to whether a swap in the amount of $50

million with the Belgians would not be out of line in terms of the arrange

ments with other countries, whether $50 million was looked upon as a

minimum for swap arrangements,

or whether there were particular reasons

for that figure in the case of the proposed transaction with the National

Bank of Belgium.

Mr.

Coombs replied that the Belgians had suggested $50 million.

Perhaps they had taken into account their policy of converting into gold

practically all of their dollar inflow and thought of the $50 million

figure as a gesture of cooperation from that standpoint.

Mr. Coombs

said he would agree that swap arrangements of $50 million all around,

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regardless of the size of the country concerned and the balance of trade,

might seem somewhat illogical.

In

time,

he thought, there might be

higher figures with the Uhited Kingdom and France than with other countries.

Thereupon, unanimous approval was

given in principle to a dollar-Belgian

franc swap arrangement with the National

Bank of Belgium along the lines described

in the letter from the National Bank of

Belgium dated May 16, 1962, and Mr.

Coombs' memorandum of May 23, 1962, it

being understood that the arrangement

was subject to final approval by the

Federal Open Market Committee.

Mr. Coombs next referred to his memorandum,

distributed to the

Committee under date of May 22, 1962, with respect to a possible swap

arrangement with the National Bank of Switzerland.

possibility of a medium-term credit arrangement.

Mr.

Coombs in Europe,

This involved the

In conversations with

officials of the National Bank of Switzerland had

indicated that the Bank would expect to provide credit under a swap

arrangement on a 90-day basis, but with a tacit understanding that the

credit would be renewed for as long as might prove necessary.

The Bank

needed protection only against some emergency situation in which the credit

facility might advisedly be shifted to a medium-term basis, and it

antici

pated working out some arrangement with the Swiss Treasury whereby the

latter

would take over the credit in

such circumstances.

Mr.

Coombs had

suggested, in the alternative, consideration of a relatively short-term

swap, say for three months, with the possibility of two renewals.

The question whether a medium-term credit arrangment with the

National Bank of Switzerland would be legally warranted was discussed

briefly in the memorandum from Mr. Hackley dated May 28, 1962, referred

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to previously in these minutes.

That memorandum pointed out that there

was no statutory restriction upon the length or maturity of accounts

that might be maintained by a Reserve Bank with a foreign bank.

If

it

could be established that a medium-term swap arrangement was necessary

or desirable in order to effectuate open market transactions in foreign

currencies, Mr. Hackley felt it

would be subject to no greater legal

objection than a short-term, 90-day swap.

commitment might make it

However, the length of the

more difficult, as a matter of degree,

to

establish that the arrangement was related to the effective conduct of open

market operations.

Also, an arrangement of this kind might be subject

to question on policy grounds.

In comments supplementing his memorandum, Mr. Coombs noted that

the U. S. Treasury was not in a position to provide a medium-term credit

facility to the Swiss.

Further, as Mr. Hackley's memorandum suggested,

it might be difficult to establish that a medium-term credit facility

provided by the Federal Reserve could be related effectively to the conduct

of open market transactions in foreign exchange.

His own view was that it

would be preferable to keep such an arrangement on a short-term basis

if

possible.

Therefore, he had suggested to the Swiss that they consider

a swap arrangement on a 90-day basis, with the explicit understanding

that the arrangement could be renewed for another three or six months.

A short-term arrangement would not fully satisfy the apparent desire

on the part of the Swiss more or less to match the standby credit

facilities being provided by certain member countries of the International

Monetary Fund.

In terms of realities, however, an arrangement running

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for nine months might give the United States time to counter any heavy

flow of speculative funds to Zurich, and possibly to bring about a

reversal.

Mr. Coombs then suggested that the Committee might want to

authorize further negotiations with the National Bank of Switzerland

for a short-term swap facility of $150 million, with $50 million as

a pilot swap and the remaining $100 million put on a standby basis.

If

current disturbances in the stock exchanges continued, there could be a

rather heavy flow of funds to Switzerland and there might well be a

need for the full $150 million.

In response to a request for further explanation of the basis

for the Swiss suggestion for a medium-term credit arrangement, Mr. Coombs

brought out that an important second line of defense was being established

by the enlargement of the standby resources of the International Monetary

Fund.

If the dollar should get into serious difficulty, the United

States could go to the Fund and pick up a sizable supply of European

currencies.

However, since Switzerland was not a member, the Fund

arrangement did not cover the Swiss franc, and the Swiss felt a certain

moral obligation to do as much as they could to close the gap. They

would like to work out a facility as similar as possible to those being

extended by a number of the major countries in connection with the

enlargement of the standby resources of the Fund, and those facilities

were on a medium-term basis.

The Swiss appeared to feel that a short

term arrangement might be criticized on the ground that Switzerland was

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failing to do its part.

officials

that it

Mr. Coombs said he had suggested to the Swiss

should be possible to provide a satisfactory explana

tion by tying in a short-term dollar-Swiss franc swap arrangement with

the swap arrangements being negotiated with other central banks.

If the

swap was in terms of a figure such as $150 million, the Swiss would

certainly get credit on that score.

Question was raised whether a $150 million swap would appear

adequate, and also as to the relationship between that figure and the

part that the Swiss might have been expected to play in enlarging the

standby resources of the Monetary Fund had Switzerland been a member

of the Fund.

Mr. Coombs replied that such questions were difficult to answer.

He thought that the Swiss might be ready to put up as much as $250

million on a medium-term basis.

Further, unless there were basic changes

in underlying conditions, he foresaw the possibility of a sizable

net flow of capital to Switzerland. Conceivably, of course, the situation

would turn in the other direction.

Thereupon, the Open Market Committee

authorized further negotiations with the

National Bank of Switzerland looking

toward the possibility of a dollar-Swiss

franc short-term swap arrangement along

the lines described by Mr. Coombs.

Mr. Coombs then pointed out that the swap arrangement with the

Bank of France in the amount of $50 million, which became effective

March 1, 1962, would mature June 1, 1962.

arrangement for another three months;

it

He recommended renewal of the

was his understanding that the

Bank of France was agreeable to such an extension.

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In this connection, Mr. Coombs commented that the French had

been taking in so many dollars during the past three months that no

useful opportunity had presented itself for employment of the French

francs obtained by the Federal Reserve under the swap arrangement.

entire $50 million could have been exhausted quickly.

Therefore,

The

it

had seemed better to wait for a time when use of French francs might

bring the market into better balance.

If the heavy flow of dollars

into France should continue during the summer months, it might prove

desirable to liquidate the swap arrangement in advance of the next

say on August 1,

maturity,

and then to renegotiate an arrangement

in the

fall months when the French payments position might be less strong.

In discussion, question was raised whether, in the circumstances

described by Mr. Coombs, the amount of the swap with the Bank of France

should not be raised or the arrangement dropped.

Comments made in

response by Messrs.

Hayes and Coombs were to

the effect that in conditions such as had existed recently the use of the

French francs to the extent of $50 million would have had little or no

effect.

On the other hand, the existence of the arrangement and lack of

use of the French francs did not appear to have created any adverse

reaction.

In the fall months an opportunity might come.

As to

increasing the amount of the swap arrangement, other negotiations were

now in process between the United States and France, having to do with

a possible advance debt repayment and adjustments with respect to military

procurement.

In the circumstances, it seemed doubtful whether this was

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an appropriate time to suggest an increase in the terms of the swap

arrangement, although that might become appropriate in the fall.

Thereupon, the Open Market Committee

approved unanimously a three-month renewal,

effective June 1, 1962, of the existing

dollar-French franc swap arrangement with

the Bank of France.

Mr. Coombs next commented upon discussions that had been held

with the Bank of Canada regarding the possibility

involving that Bank and the U. S. Treasury.

of a

However,

swap facility

it

had developed

that the Treasury could not commit more than $25 or $30 million out of

the Stabilization Fund at the present time.

The reaction of the Bank

of Canada was one of appreciation that this had been suggested as a token

of cooperation,

but the Canadians were doubtful that an arrangement of

such magnitude would have much impact.

interested in

a

swap arrangement in

It

appeared that

they might be

a much larger figure,

or $250 million, as a backstop to the recent action in

such as $200

establishing

a par value for the Canadian dollar.

Mr.

Coombs raised the question whether the Open Market

Committee would be interested in

exploration

of

the possibility

of

a

swap arrangement between the Federal Reserve and the Bank of Canada,

having in

mind that

the Canadians might be interested only in

arrangement of substantial size.

an

He noted that the establishment of a

par value for the Canadian dollar had been a long-sought objective

American policy.

of

That having been done, it appeared appropriate to give

some support to the Canadians.

He was not sure, however, whether this

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might best be done through a Federal Reserve-Bank

of Canada swap

arrangement or through a Canadian drawing on the Monetary Fund.

In discussion, it was noted that a Canadian drawing on the

Monetary Fund would subject the Canadians to the discipline of the

Fund.

It was also noted, however, that the Canadians might hesitate

to go to the Monetary Fund until after the forthcoming elections and

that they had been subjected to a speculative outflow of funds of rather

substantial proportions during the past two or three months.

Mr.

of U.

S.

Mitchell raised the question whether,

foreign exchange

if

the endeavor

transactions was to help build a strong

international payments system,

it

would not seem almost unavoidable,

in the interest of consistency, to consider a swap arrangement with

the Bank of Canada.

Mr. Coombs said he had such a feeling.

That was why he had

favored the Stabilization Fund arrangement on a $25 or $30 million

basis, but that figure apparently was not high enough in the eyes of

the Canadians to have any real impact.

After Mr. Mitchell had suggested the possibility of negotiating

with the Bank of Canada in terms of a swap of $50 or $100 million,

Mr.

Hayes said he shared the view that, with the Canadian economy so

close to that of the United States and the Canadian currency so important

to the United States, it would seem somewhat illogical not to include

the Canadians in the network of swap arrangements at such time as a

favorable basis for such an arrangement could be found.

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Mr. Balderston said he also shared that view.

He saw virtue

in taking the initiative in discussions with the Bank of Canada,

so as

to be able to suggest limits compatible with the Federal Reserve swap

arrangements negotiated or pending with other central banks.

Thereupon, the Open Market Committee

authorized negotiations with the Bank of

Canada looking toward the possibility of

a swap arrangement between the Federal Re

serve and that Bank.

Mr. Coombs pointed out that on the exchange markets the United

States dollar had been under considerable pressure in the past few days.

It had been driven to the floor against the Swiss franc, and it was

weakening against the German mark.

Assuming that the German Federal

Bank was prepared to intervene and buy dollars to check a further decline

of the dollar rate against the German mark, he hoped that the Open Market

Committee would concur in the appropriateness of using some of the Federal

Reserve holdings of German marks to reinforce that operation.

It seemed

quite clear that a speculative movement of a reversible type was occurring,

and use of the System holdings of German marks would appear to meet the

criteria for intervention as stated in the Guidelines for System Foreign

Currency Operations.

The proposed use of Federal Reserve

System holdings of German marks in the

manner described by Mr. Coombs, if that

should seem desirable to him in the light

of developments, was noted without objec

tion.

With reference to the earlier discussion concerning a possible

swap arrangement with the National Bank of Belgium, it was brought out

that the continuing authority directive to the Federal Reserve Bank of

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New York with respect to System foreign currency operations, originally

adopted by the Committee on February 13, 1962, and reaffirmed on March 6,

1962, did not authorize the purchase and sale of Belgian francs.

Accordingly, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote, the

continuing authority directive to the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York with

respect to System foreign currency opera

tions was approved in the following

amended form, effective immediately:

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is authorized and

directed to purchase and sell through spot transactions any

or all of the following currencies in accordance with the

Guidelines on System Foreign Currency Operations issued by

the Federal Open Market Committee on February 13, 1962:

Pounds sterling

French francs

German marks

Italian lire

Netherlands guilders

Swiss francs

Belgian francs

Total foreign currencies held at any one time shall not

exceed $500 million.

Mr. Mitchell commented that the recent developments in the

stock market had led him to wonder whether something might not happen

to bring about a substantial drain on the gold supply and cause the

reserve requirements specified under existing law to have to be suspended.

In his opinion the existing law was clearly obsolete, having been

adopted under a different set of circumstances than now prevailed.

His

question, therefore, was whether there should not be a re-examination

of the existing law, with a view to the possibility of some change that

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would make it possible for the Federal Reserve System to meet any

crisis without having to take emergency action.

Chairman Martin noted that this problem had been given consid

eration on previous occasions.

The Committee might ask its staff to

review the procedures involved so that everyone would be familiar with

them.

Some caution was indicated, because a planning exercise, if under

stood to be in process, could lead to comment and speculation.

However,

he would see no objection to putting down in a paper the facts relating

to the procedures provided under the present law.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday, June 19, 1962.

The meeting then adjourned.

Assistant Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1962, May 28). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19620529
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19620529,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1962},
  month = {May},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19620529},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}