fomc minutes · July 29, 1963

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

offices

the

of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in

Washington on Tuesday,

PRESENT:

July 30,

1963

at 9:30 a.m.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Balderston

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Bopp

Irons

Mills

Mitchell

Robertson

Scanlon

Mr. Shepardson

Messrs. Hickman, Wayne, and Shuford, Alternate Members

of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Ellis, Bryan, and Deming, Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, Atlanta, and

Minneapolis, respectively

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Young, Secretary

Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Hackley, General Counsel

Noyes, Economist

Messrs. Baughman, Brill, Eastburn, Garvy, Green,

Holland, and Tow, Associate Economists

Mr. Stone, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open Market

Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of Governors

Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Hersey, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Yager, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Miss Quick, Secretary, Office of the Secretary,

Board of Governors

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Messrs. Patterson and Hemmings, First Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks

of Atlanta and San Francisco, respectively

Messrs. Mann, Ratchford, Jones, Parsons, and

Grove, Vice Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of Cleveland, Richmond, St.

Louis, Minneapolis, and San Francisco,

respectively

Mr. Eisenmenger, Director of Research, Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston

Messrs. Cooper and Meek, Managers of the Securities Department, Federal Reserve Bank of New

York

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meetings of the Federal Open Market Com-

mittee held on June 18 and July 9, 1963,

were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the Committee

a report from the Special Manager of the System Open Market Account on

foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market Account and

Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the period July 9 through

July 24, 1963,

together with a supplementary report covering the period

July 25 through July 29, 1963.

Copies of these reports have been placed

in the files of the Committee.

In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. Coombs

reviewed current and prospective developments with respect to the U. S.

gold stock and summarized developments in the London gold market.

He

went on to say that judgment ahroad as to the proposed "interest equali-

zation" tax on U. S. purchases of long-term foreign securities was still

hanging in the balance.

On the one hand there was some feeling that the

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tax, by imposing a freeze on American purchases of foreign securities-new issues as well as outstanding--should have a strengthening effect

on U. S. dollar rates.

On the other hand there was a rather widespread

feeling that the tax could be circumvented through bank term lending

and that a system of direct controls might eventuate.

Mr. Coombs noted that in

connection with the President's balance

of payments message on July 18, efforts had been made by foreign central

banks,

in conjunction with the efforts of the Federal Reserve and the

Treasury,

ment.

to keep up dollar rates, and if

possible to show some improve-

These efforts had contrived to keep dollar rates fairly steady

except in the case of the Swiss franc.

If the dollar went to the floor

against the Swiss franc, that might have been regarded as a sign of no

confidence.

Therefore, as spelled out in the written reports a variety

of measures were taken to try to hold up the

dollar against the Swiss

franc, but market pressures were strong enough to force a gradual decline in the dollar rate.

In addition, a $5

million drawing under

the System's swap facility with the Swiss National Bank was proposed

yesterday.

owever, the National Bank had suggested holding off for a

day or two, with the thought that the demand for Swiss francs might

ease after the end of the month.

There were indications of some

speculative content in the buying of francs, but continued tight money

market conditions

in

Zurich might offer a more important explanation.

The situation was similar in most of the other major financial centers

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on the

-4Continent.

There had been no further deliberate tightening of

these markets, except in Belgium following the discount rate increase

in

that country, but for several months there had been a gradual

tightening up in

be seen.

It

these markets and the effects were now beginning to

probably would not be possible to get the maximum bene-

fits from short-term rate increases in this country unless the Continental

central banks found it possible to inject additional liquidity

into their money markets.

Last week, Mr.

Coombs painted out,

the Swiss took a step in

that direction by releasing 150 million Swiss francs from blocked

commercial bank balances, and there was hope that the Swiss authorities

might release more.

the money market,

In Amsterdam there had been some recent easing

of

possibly assisted by central bank action, with

improvement in the dollar rate.

In Germany,

were no signs of any important easing.

France,

and Italy there

The German authorities, however,

were cognizant of the problem faced by this country in

trying to improve

its position in terms of interest rate differentials, and the German

Federal Bank might make some concessions in

the way of easing.

If it

were possible to obtain some easing in the Continental money centers,

this should have the effect of relieving some of the upward pressure

on Euro-dollar rates and narrowing the spread between short-term rates

in New York and Euro-dollar quotations.

However, if the interest

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equalization tax should curtail the flow of money to Europe and Japan,

there might be a shifting of the demand for medium and long-term money

into the short-term market.

Mr. Coombs noted a slight increase in the British bill rate

and a narrowing of the discount on forward sterling.

As to Canada,

the major gyrations occasioned by announcement of the proposed interest

equalization tax had changed into a situation where latest reports

suggested that the Canadian bill rate might be settling at a level

around the U. S. bill rate.

In reply to a question with regard to the rationale of System

and Treasury operations related to the Swiss franc, Mr. Coombs commented

that the hope was to see some easing of the Swiss money market.

This

could be brought about if the Swiss commercial banks repatriated funds,

but this would result in dollar accumulations by the Swiss National

Bank.

the Swiss National Bank should add further to the liquidity

If

of the market, that would be the preferable

solution.

The officials

of the National Bank realized this problem and wanted to be helpful,

but they were concerned, of course, about the risk of easing too much

and inciting inflationary pressures.

There followed comments by Mr. Coombs in response to questions

with regard to the prospective effect of the interest equalization tax

on Japan.

Mr. Coombs also commented on the prospective effects of the

proposed tax generally and summarized by expressing the view that it

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might add up to a virtual freeze on American investments in foreign

securities for some time to come.

The impact had already been severe

in certain instances.

Mr. Hayes said the New York Reserve Bank had been told by a

number of New York bankers that applications for foreign term loans

were tending

to burgeon.

The bankers appeared somewhat puzzled as

to what their approach should be.

taken at face value,

If official pronouncements were

bank loans were specifically exempted; Admini-

stration spokesmen had indicated that bank loans should be covered

by general monetary policy.

Mr. Hayes said he had been referring

such inquiries to the Treasury.

Mr. Coombs added that for the past couple of years persons

had been coming into the New York Reserve Bank and inquiring, apparently

out of a sense of real concern, whether they should hold back on

foreign lending.

Until the announcement of the present balance of

payments measures, the standard line of the Government had been that

there was no policy of restraint.

However, now that the Government

had takea a stand, a backing away might be seen in view of the clear-

cut Government attitude.

After further discussion, Chairman Martin expressed the view

that inquiries of the kind mentioned by Messrs. Hayes and Coombs should

he referred to the Treasury.

System spokesmen should not take it upon

themselves to define Government policy in this area.

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Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote, the System

Open Market Account transactions in foreign

currencies during the pericd July 9-29, 1963,

were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. Coombs noted that a $25 million drawing under the swap

arrangement with the German Federal Bank would mature August 20, 1963,

and that another $25 million drawing would mature August 26.

He

recommended renewal in each case.

The proposed renewals, as recommended by

Mr. Coombs, were noted without objection.

Mr. Coombs added, in this connection, that before the second

maturity dates were reached consideration should be given to how the

drawings might be unwound.

It was possible that the German Federal

Bank would accept an issue of medium-term Treasury bonds denominated

in German marks.

Unless in the meantime there was some shift in

favor of the dollar against the mark, it might be worthwhile to consider such a procedure.

This concluded the discussion of System foreign currency operations and related matters.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report covering open market operations in U. S.

Government securities and bankers' acceptances for the period July 9

through July 24, 1963, and a supplementary report covering the period

July 25 through July 29, 1963.

Copies of these reports have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

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-8 In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Stone commented

as follows:

In the ten days or so preceding the last meeting of the

Committee we had a classic case of the powerful role played

by short- term expectations in shaping day-to-day market

behavior. Largely in anticipation of a discount rate rise,

which had been widely discussed in the financial press and

broadly hinted at in official statements, Treasury bill rates

had risen by close to 1/4 percentage point and bond yields

had also moved higher.

In the past three weeks, on the other

hand, duing which the widely expected discount rate rise

actually occurred, the market has been subjected to a combination of influences that tended to restrain any further rise in

yields and in some sectors has pulled yields lower than they

were before the discount rate increase took effect.

In the case of Treasury bills, rates are only slightly

above where they were three weeks ago, and are somewhat below

the level touched the day after the discount rate increase

was announced. There seem to have been two major, and related

reasons for the recent performance of the bill market. First,

dealers had undertaken to reduce their positions to a very low

level during the period that a discoun t rate increase was

widely expected. On July 15, for example (just a day before

the rate increase was announced), 7 out of the 20 dealers

showed, in their trading accounts, short positions ranging

up to $50 million in bills up to three months; three other

dealers showed a net position of zero; and six others showed

long positions of less than $20 million. At the same time

that dealers were trimming their holdings to these low levels,

investors were withholding commitments waiting for the air to

clear. The air cleared with the announcement of the discount

rate change on July 16,

effective July 17, and the accumulated

funds that had been held off the market came rushing in to

capture the bill

rates that emerged immediately following the

That demand encountered the kind of

discount rate change.

dealer positions I have just outlined--and of course the

rate went down.

The second major factor in the bill market, and one that

reinforced the influence of the first, was the very easy condition of the central money market, which became particularly

conspicuous toward the close of the country bank settlement

period ended July 24. In turn, that easy money market was a

product of the heavy borrowings in the early

part of the week,

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and particularly the sharp reduction in the basic reserve

deficiency of the major New York City banks. Indeed, their

basic deficiency declined from an average of $862 million

two weeks ago to only $81 million last week--and their

demand for Federal funds declined accordingly.

These factors that have tended to pull bill rates lower

would seem to be largely temporary, but it is not possible

to say how long it will take to cvercome their influence.

It might take only a few days--with yesterday's moderate

rise in bill

rates perhaps the first

step in a move to a

somewhat higher range of variation.

Or the other hand, it

might take considerably longer, perhaps as long as a month,

for the recent influences to be worked out.

Apart from whatever decision on policy the Committee may

make today, it seems to me that there are three factors likely

to be of major importance in determining whether bill rates

carry through yesterday's rise and move into somewhat higher

ground:

1.

A further firming of the money market--which will

depend largely on whether the New York banks return to their

usual sizable basic deficit position, and thus once again be

major bidders for Federal funds. As a firming of the money

market occurs, it should increase dealers' financing costs

and perhaps induce some commercial bank selling of bills.

2.

The second factor is the course of nonbank demand

for bills.

Some abatement of this demand might come about

either because more attractive investment alternatives are

available (for example, in certificates of deposit at the

new rate levels) or because of some working down of corporate liquidity, particularly in the automobile industry in

However, it is very hard to estimate

the next month or so.

how nonbank demand for bills will develop.

3.

The third factor is a Treasury offering of a strip

of bills. We understand that the Treasury is prepared to

offer a strip of about $800 million of Treasury bills at

any time with a view to bolstering the short rate structure.

This is a useful backstop to current efforts to stiffen

short rates, but if possible it might be preferable to

wait until dealer positions have been restored somewhat,

in order to achieve maximum rate impact from the strip

offering. Indeed, there is no assurance that a bill

strip offering will succeed in raising rates more than

very temporarily if the money market does not firm or if

nonbank demand for bills should be strong.

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If the recent period has taught us nothing else, it has

demonstrated beyond question that the inter-relationships

among bill rates, Federal funds rates, dealer positions and

attitudes, and reserve management of various groups of banks

are highly complex. The money market has been feeling its

way along in a somewhat changed environment, and in conducting

open market operations we too have had to feel our own way

along through the same set of changing relationships.

It

appears that in the current statement week some measure of

firmness in the money market has been regained. In meeting

this week's reserve needs we have sought to stay a step or

two behind the reflection of those needs in the market in

order to avoid pushing the market off the delicate balance

in which it is poised and sending it back toward the excessively easy conditions that prevailed recently. But the

basic reserve position of the New York banks has remained

unusually comfortable, and dealer positions have remained

unusually light--and until these parts of the picture are

back in their normal places it is rather difficult to have

much confidence in the maintenance of a firm money market.

The performance of the Treasury note and bond market

since the discount rate increase has also been somewhat out

of the ordinary--in that prices of notes and bonds have

tended to move higher. In this case, the market has given

a good deal of attention to the various statements by

Administration officials to the general effect that

vigorous efforts would be made by the nation's financial

authorities to avoid higher domestic long-term interest

rates. While there has apparently beer only moderate

investor buying of intermediate and longer issues, dealers

have made considerable efforts to cover short positions

and have put prices up in the process. Another upward

price influence during the recent period emerged from the

fact that the Treasury confined its August refunding maturity

to a single short-term issue--offering a new 3-3/4 per cent

note to mature in November 1964. The subscription books

are still open on this exchange offering today and tomorrow,

and all reports indicate a smooth and successful operation.

Indeed, with public holdings of rights amounting to only

$2.5 billion, the operation appears to be generating only

a moderate volume of market activity.

Still another strengthening influence on the bond market

has been the prospective reinvestment demand from a $197

million advance refunding planned for today by the Grant

County Public Utility District of Washington. The District,

which has built the Wanapum Dam, plans to offer these

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tax-exempt bonds today in order to refund an issue that is

callable in 1970. In the meantime, they propose to invest

the proceeds of the current offering in Treasury bonds,

mainly the 4's of August 1970--which will more than cover

the prospective interest cost of their new issue--and this

has already been placing some upward pressure on that and

surrounding issues.

Given these various upward price influences in the market for notes and bonds, the System's job of providing reserves for next week is further complicated, for recent

offerings of coupon issues to the Desk generally have been

few in number, small in size, and typically priced to the

full offered side of the market--providing little opportunity

to inject reserves through purchases in this maturity area

without pushing prices to unsustainable levels.

I would like to add, with respect to the current Treasury

offering, that the System holds $4,075 million of maturing

rights and we plan to exchange this entire holding for the

new 3-3/4 per cent notes.

Finally, it seems to me that the temporary reasons for

which the Committee enlarged the System Account's leeway

for net purchases and sales between meetings to $1.5 billion

have now passed. Accordingly, the Counittee may wish to

return the leeway to the old figure of $1 billion.

In discussion, Mr. Mills notes that the Manager had indicated

some lack of confidence in the maintenance of a strong rate structure

in the short-term Government securities market.

However, with Federal

funds trading at 3-1/2 per cent and the rate to Government securities

dealers by New York City banks running as high as 3-3/4 per cent, presumably the dealers had an unfavorable carry on their inventories.

Presumably, also, banks that adjusted their positions through the

Federal funds market would find the cost excessive to attempt to

continue their positions in lower-yielding Government securities.

Granted the need for bringing market rates into alignment with the

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discount rate, he asked the Manager how much offsetting influence the

latter estimated from the dealers' unsatisfactory carrying position and

the Federal funds rate.

Mr. Stone replied that if the Federal funds rate could be maintained rather consistently at 3-1/2 per cent, that would exert an upward

pull on all short-term rates.. The question was whether a 3-1/2 per cent

Federal funds rate could be maintained at a time when the basic reserve

positions of the New York City banks were as comfortable as they were,

and dealer positions as low as they were.

If dealer positions should

rise, a significant part of the increase in such positions would be

financed at the New York City banks, which would increase the demand

for Federal funds.

In effect, New York City banks would be drawing

funds from around the country at 3-1/2 per cent and lending to dealers

at 3-3/4 or 3-7/8 per cent.

Before this process could take place, how-

ever, the New York City banks must have a strong incentive to obtain

funds.

Until that occurred, he found it difficult to have confidence

in the maintenance of the Federal funds rate at the discount rate.

Mr. Hickman observed that this reasoning did not take accourt

of the possibility of the Committee allowing net free reserves to fall

to zero or lower, which would cause the banks at some point to divest

bills.

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-13Mr. Stone replied that he had not wanted to anticipate what

action the Committee might take today.

Instead, he had attempted to

spell out some of the factors for the Committee's evaluation.

Mr.

Deming asked whether, if the Treasury decided to under-

take a monthly auction of one-year bills, the Manager would foresee

any serious problem from the standpoint of freedom of System policy.

Mr. Stone replied that after the first three or four monthly

auctions, such auctions probably would become about as routine as

the current weekly auctions of shorter bills.

He anticipated that

the market would acquire the one-year bills in the auctions and

distribute them quite promptly--within three or four days--and that

the monthly auctions would impose little or no restraint on System

policy.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote, the open

market transactions in Government securities and bankers' acceptances during the

period July 9 through July 29, 1963, were

approved, ratified,

and confirmed.

The Chairman then called for the usual staff economic and

financial reports beginning with Mr. Noyes,

who presented the follow-

ing statement on economic developments:

As was reported during the period, the economy advanced

considerably in the second quarter--and, as was also repeatedly

pointed out, some of the gain was at the expense of subsequent

activity.

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The most spectacular increase was in industrial production, which spurted from 121 in March to 125 in June.

Total GNP was up an estimated $7.2 billion annual rate,

with inventory accumulation contributing less than it had

in the preceding quarter. Thus, final purchases increased

more--about $9 billion. But less than $1 billion of this

gain was in consumer purchases of goods, and the relatively

weak performance of retail sales which again was noted as

the quarter progressed, muted the optimism that the overall performance might have seemed to justify.

We are now just in the middle of the so-called summer

doldrums, and current indications are for considerably less

expansion in the production index and GNP in the current

quarter than in the one just past. The rate of unemployment,

to be released later this week, will probably be unchanged

from June to July. The greatest likelihood is that the

July production index will hold at 125 rather than rise or

fall. As was widely noted, new orders dropped in June, not

only for steel, where a sharp drop was anticipated, but for

Housing starts in June were

a wide range of durable goods.

also off from the unexpectedly high levels of the late

spring, suggesting that we may see some leveling out in the

spurt in construction activity that has been going on in

recent months.

On the other hand, retail sales, especially at department stores, have shown signs of picking up. In fact, even

the auto market seems to have regained momentum in the first

20 days of July. Characterizing the situation, as one Washington letter did, as a "near buying spree" is too strong,

but there is some very welcome improvement.

The 4/10 of 1 per cent increase in consumer prices in

June was rather sharp for that sluggish index, but the increase was selective and not of a sort that appears to be

con agious. Wholesale commodity prices remained little

changed.

By and large, developments in the domestic economy have

not varied much from the anticipated pattern. Some weakening,

at least in the pace of advance, was almost inevitable after

mid-year, and what we have seen thus far is well within the

range that should have been expected.

The current attitudes and expectations of the business

community appear to be mixed. Certainly, the President's

balance of payments message did not bolster confidence in

the dollar as much as one might have hoped. Second quarter

profits ranged from good to terrific--but they have not

excited buying interest in the stock market. Demonstrations

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for civil rights have unquestionably aided to business uncertainty in some areas, as has the situation in the railroad

industry.

It is very doubtful that sentiment as to the future will

crystallize in the weeks immediately ahead. Some further sideways movement, with mixed components, is generally expected and

very likely to be realized. Beyond that, as we move through

September, observers differ as to what is most likely, but

they would all agree that some further strength in consumer

buying is essential if we are to avoid serious doubts as to

the sustainability of recent rates of expansion, much less

the possibility of further increases.

As I suggested six weeks ago, from a purely domestic

point of view, this summer would be a good time--quite apart

from any significant change in policy--to let some of the

ease stemming from moderation of expansionary forces and

itself

less optimistic appraisals of the outlook reflect

in credit markets. Whether this is possible, in the light

of our balance of payments problem, is another question.

Mr. Holland presented the following statement on financial developments:

The financial system is undergoing a progressive adjustment to the variety of official actions and statements that

have been packed into the past two weeks. Here in the United

States, the adjustments in most cases appear mild to date-partly because of anticipatory market movements earlier. In

the shortest and longest term markets for funds, adjustments

have carried far enough to provide a reasonable outline of

their portents for the near future. In the bill market and

the banking system, however--both key sectors for policymaking purposes--developments of recent weeks have been

enigmatic. In these areas, a proper appraisal of the

likely trend of events under the current policy environment

probably has to await further clarifying developments.

Mr. Stone has outlined the whipsawing in bank reserve

positions and the Federal funds market during the weeks

surrounding the discount rate change. But with all Reserve

Bank discount rates at 3-1/2 per cent in the current statement week, these distortions seem to be working out, and the

Federal funds rate has moved into a more logical relationship

to the new discount rate. So long as the free reserve target

is low enough to involve a significant volume of large bank

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borrowing, the Federal funds rate ought to be expected to

range most of the time in close proximity to the discount

rate. From my own observations, I would guess that free

reserves in the range of $100-$200 million and a Federal

funds rate ranging from 3-1/4 to 3-1/2 per cent would be

broadly consistent at this juncture.

The bill market is a different matter. Investor de-

mand has been strong this past month, blotting up more than

a billion dollars of net sales of bills by dealers and New

Bill rates, meanwhile, have oscillated in

York City banks.

a 3.18-3.27 per cent range following their upward adjustment

to Secretary Dillon's testimony on July 8. But I doubt they

world have held this high in the absence of market anticipation of higher rates to come, for the rate advances have

centered around official statements or actions with rate

implication, with intervening downward drifts of quotations

Indeed, the

as investor buying reduced available supplies.

willingness of dealers and leading banks to sell off their

own bill holdings in these circumstances was partly related

to expectations of higher rates later.

Nonbank demand for bills may continue strong over the

next few weeks, and there is a possibility it could override the expectational forces now in the market, unless they

are reinforced by policy action. Such reinforcement could

come by issuance of a bill strip; as has been noted, the

Treasury is ready to do this on short notice within the next

two weeks even though it does not need the cash. The reinforcement could also come from greater System efforts to

supply reserves by purchases of coupon issues, with or

without offsetting sales of bills. Each of these measures

has its disadvantages, but the current public policy dialogue

would seem to call for some consideration of both before

resort is had to the third alternative for resisting any

undesired rate declines, namely, a further general reduction

in the level of reserve availability.

There is a potential market development that could spare

the Federal Reserve this need to chose among objectives. That

is a substantial expansion of sales of time certificates of

deposit by banks and dealers to customers as an alternative

to investment in Treasury bills. If banks take full advantage

of the liberalization of Regulation Q in the issuance of

certificates of deposit, they may divert a significant amount

of money that would otherwise push into the bill market directly.

In fact, there was an increase in other time deposits of city

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banks it early July, and there was a sharply concentrated

$145 million run-up at New York City banks in late July.

But this latter pace almost certainly cannot be continued;

in particular, New York City banks are posting negotiable

certificates of deposit rates that are at the lower end of

the effective scale of competition for short-term funds.

Despite their success in attracting more certificates

of deposit money, city banks reported a substantial net

shrinkage in credit and deposits during the first three

weeks of July. For the most part, this stemmed from a

larger than seasonal drop in U.S. Government securities

holdings on the asset side and in Government deposits on

the liability side.

This followed on the heels of a large

June increase in both items; it reflected largely the

ti m ing of Treasury financing, although perhaps also some

response to the less easy prevailing reserve positions

during the month. Securities loans and loans to financial

institutions at leading banks also were lower. But commercial loans tended to show no more than the usual July downdrift; and real estate and consumer loans continued to

mount, with only a slightly abated pace.

Meanwhile, banks

outside the leading cities were continuing to demonstrate

about the same seasonally adjusted credit rise as earlier

this year. One consequence of all these banking changes

was to confine the net deposit shrinkage of the banking

system primarily to the Government area. Reserves against

private deposits have averaged about $80-$100 million above

the Board guideline during July. Thus far in July, money

supply has been running about $900 million higher than the

last half of June, with time deposits also continuing to

climb briskly. Additional net Government deposit pay-outs

scheduled during the first half of August should bolster

the money supply even further in the weeks ahead. Thus

the private liquidity in the economy has built in a certain

degree of cushioning against bank credit contraction in the

current monetary climate.

Long-term credit markets have been behaving as if they

expected to suffer no adverse consequences from the combination of recent and prospective official actions on the

balance cf payments front. Yields on domestic issues have

been stable to buoyant, and the flow of investible funds is

unabated. This may reflect partly solid confidence in

repeated official statements that no upward pressure on

long rates is desired, and partly a market consensus that

the higher discount rate will not trigger any important net

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reduction in bank lending to long-term borrowers. Were banks

to reduce in any important degree their more than one-billion

dollars-a-month of net acquisitions of real estate, municipal,

and agency obligations, the capital markets would certainly

be affected adversely. But the current rate stability in

these markets suggests that no such prospect is foreseen.

For the time being at least, higher rates in some short-term

areas without higher long-term rates are an accomplished fact.

What remains to be seen more clearly is whether bill

rates can hold at something like their present level from

now until the onset of seasonally firming pressures in the

fall, and whether the banking system can maintain an appropriate rate of expansion without being hampered by the onehalf per cent higher cost of the marginal borrowings made

necessary by the prevailing level of free reserves.

On

these points, I judge the develoments to date to be inconclusive. We can be reasonably sure, I think, that the new

combination of a discount rate of 3-1/2 per cent, free

reserves in the range of $100-$200 million, and a Federal

funds rate around 3-1/4 to 3-1/2 per cent can be fairly

consistently maintained.

But to be clear as to the further

cousequences of such a combination, we need to maintain it

This also, I think, fills the prescription

a little longer.

for an "even keel" policy, which would seem to be in order

in any event through the first part of the next three weeks

in view of the Treasury refunding now under way.

In relay to a question, Mr.

Holland noted that the larger banks

had divested a substantial amount of U. S. Government securities during

the month of July, whereas there had been a large increase in holdings

of such

securities in the month of June.

have been some divestment of Government

At country banks there may

securities in

July,

but

apparently to no substantial extent.

Mr.

Hersey presented the following statement with respect to the

U. S. balance of payments:

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The initial effects of the System's raising of discount

rates and Regulation Q ceilings on July 17 and of the announcement on July 18 of the proposed interest equalization tax have

not been clearly favorable for the U. S. balance of payments

outlook. The evidence is of course very scanty, and it is

much too early to draw conclusions yet.

The tax proposal and the subsequent exemption for Canada

did have a net effect in the exchange markets of strengthening the U. S. dollar somewhat against the Canadian dollar,

after a rather sharp impact at the first announcement. Also,

as a result of the discussions with Canadian officials, and

assuming that the Canadian current account balance of payments does not deteriorate so as to justify additional

borrowings, we can now be reasonably confident that the

bulge in the U. S. outflow for new Canadian security issues

will in fact taper off in coming months, as we had previously

hoped it would. In the first half of this year this outflow

exceeded $600 million. In the years 1956 to 1959, the

average flow to Canada had been less than $200 million per

half-year, before it declined to a still lower rate in 1960,

1961, and the first three quearters of 1962. Thus, in annual

rate terms, the outflow on new Canadian issues in the first

half of this year was worsening our balance of payments, as

compared with the 1956-to-1959 period, by twice the difference of these two figures, i.e., by nearly $0,9 billion

annual rate. We can now look forward to some diminution

of this flow. What actions the Canadian authorities may

take to enforce a reduction in borrowings from the United

States, or how quickly any such actions may have their

effect, are not at all clear.

The tax proposal, if enacted, will cut off and reduce

to zero any growth that might have developed in European

issues in our capital market. It should help to demonstrate

to the Europeans the importance we attach, in the long run,

to a satisfactory development of their own capital markets.

In the first half of 1963, the outflow to Europe on new

issues, net of foreign participation, was about $100 million,

not quite as large as it had been in the corresponding

period a year earlier. Also, new issues by Japanese

borrowers (which were over $100 million in the first six

months of this year), and by governments and companies in

other industrially developed countries, will be curtailed.

But we may find that reductions of outflow to some of these

countries through this channel will be offset by increased

bank lending, or by growth of the outflow on new issues to

exempted countries, such as Mexico.

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The discount rate and time deposit ceiling increases, or

rather the advances that developed in the first half of July

in market rates on U. S. Treasury bills and on negotiable time

certificates of deposit, which have been, so to speak, rati-fied by the Federal Reserve actions, have had little or no

effect on covered interest differentials vis-a-vis the Eurodollar market. Willingness of the Japanese authorities to

allow higher rates to be paid if necessary for Euro-dollar

funds was one of the factors in the rise of Euro-dollar

rates.

Other effects that might have been hoped for from the

Federal Reserve and Administration actions, in terms of

strengthening confidence in the dollar and diminishing outflows of funds motivated by the psychclogical climate, are

not evident as of now. Critical reactions to the tax proposal are appearing in the European press. There has been

little or no general improvement for the dollar in exchange

markets, apart from the Canadian. And the first tentative

indications of the over-all balance of payments in the week

ending last Wednesday suggested that the deficit was running

at a very high rate.

Before trying to evaluate this last piece of evidence,

it may be useful to look briefly at the balance of payments

in the second quarter of this year. The initial estimate

given to the Committee three weeks ago has had to be revised

sharply in the light of more or less final figures of reserves

and related liabilities for June.

The second-quarter deficit,

seasonally adjusted, and before countig receipts from special

government transactions, is now estimated at about $1-1/4

billion, almost as large as in the fourth quarter of last

year, and considerably larger than the gross deficit in the

now quite clear that the

It is

first

quarter of this year.

and

the first

million

between

$300

or

$400

worsening by

by

a

more,

and

explained,

second quarters can be fully

rise in bank lending to foreigners, even without taking

account of other outflows of short-term capital recorded

or unrecorded.

Bank-reported claims on foreigners, short-term and

medium-term, rose in April, May, and June by $650 million,

in contrast to a reduction of somewhat under $100 million

in the first quarter. Bank-reported claims do include some

foreign currency deposits and some investments in foreign

money market assets for account of U. S. customers. But

changes reported for April and May in these elements were

small, and it appears that the bulk of the outflow in those

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mouths was in acceptance credits, collections outstanding,

and bank loans. Flows of these kinds are responsive to

trade developments and to borrowers' needs or desires, and

they are not easily influenced by small changes in U. S.

money market rates. The drop in outflows of bank-reported

claims denominated in dollars from about $1.3 billion in

1961 to about $450 million in 1962 can not be ascribed in

any significant part to interest rate changes.

Nor can this

latest rise in outflows--which makes the rate for the first

half year almost as high as the 1961 outflow, and the rate

for the second quarter by itself much higher.

The only

moral to be drawn from this is that we need a much stronger

balance on trade and other accounts, to allow us to take

this sort of variation in the flow of bank lending in our

stride.

In conclusion, I would like to go back to the tentative

weekly indications of the gross deficit in recent weeks, and

sound an agnostic note. These indicators show, for the three

weeks ending last Wednesday, an average weekly gross deficit

of over $150 million, with increases in the amount from week

to week. These are very large figures, implying a monthly

rate of deficit of over $600 million. However, it would be

wrong to jump to a conclusion that these latest figures

necessarily indicate any real worsening in any part of the

balance of payments--trade, aid, or capital--as compared

with the second quarter. This is because we are now in the

season of heavy tourist expenditures abroad, and at a time

of year when exports drop off seasonally more than imports

do, and more than Government aid and imports combined.

These factors, offset to a small extent by other seasonal

factors that work the other way, tend to increase the

average monthly deficit in the third quarter, as compared

with the second quarter, by about $150 million. July is

particularly strongly affected. Thus even a deficit of

$600 million in July, unadjusted, might represent little

or no further net worsening from the second-quarter average

unadjusted gross deficit of a little under $400 million.

It is not yet demonstrated that the very bad figures of

May and June have grown even worse in July.

The Chairmar then called for the go-around of comments and views

on economic conditions and monetary policy.

who presented the following statement:

He turned first to Mr. Hayes,

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While the business picture has shown no significant

change since the last meeting, with a continued slow advance to be expected, there are perhaps more uncertainties

in the near-term outlook than there have been in the past

couple of months. There are some slight doubts about the

strength of the prospects for capital spending and housing,

which have been counted on to provide

an offset to steel

inventory liquidation; and Government outlays seem to be

leveling off. The general outlook has been clouded by

several uncertainties that have come to the fore recently

and that have undoubtedly contributed to the downward

trend of the stock market. The apparent inability of the

Congress to cope effectively with the growing mass of

legislative proposals before it, including income tax

legislation, is itself a major inpedimnt to a vigorous

business advance. The stock market may be said to have

behaved reasonably well in the face of such events as the

SEC report, the rise in discount rates, the President's

interest equalization tax proposal, and the threatened

strike.

rail

Bank credit declined in the first three weeks of July

primarily as a reflection of the June Treasury financing;

but the somewhat slower growth of credit in recent months

was of course quite consistent with the Committee's policy

actions. There is a continuing absence of strength in

business loan demand. Nonbank liquidity in general remains

The

comfortable.

ample, and the banks' position is still

Regulaunder

rate

ceilings

of

the

interest

timely raising

tion Q has already given a new lease of life to the volume

of certificates of deposit outstanding.

I might note in passing that the Treasury's financing

problems now look much less burdensome than seemed likely

six months ago. The cash deficit was only about $4 billion

in fiscal 1963 and is now projected at only about $7 billion

for fiscal 1964 after allowing for the effects of the proposed tax reduction bill. There is much less ground than

there might have been earlier for opposition to the tax

bill because of doubts as to the possibility of the resulting deficit being soundly financed; and certainly the tax

cut is needed more than ever as a means of relieving mone-

tary policy of some of its burden of encouraging domestic

expansion.

As for the balance of payments, the latest indicators

show continued large increases in foreign dollar holdings.

The very heavy June deficit included several special items,

including sizable mid-year window-dressing operations; but

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unfortunately, whereas a reversal of this item in early

July might have been looked for, the deficit figures for

the first few weeks of July continued unsatisfactorily

high. Our discount rate increase was well received

abroad and seemed for a day or two to be having useful

results in the exchanges. Very soon thereafter, however,

this whole tendency was completely obscured by the emergence of grave uncertainties abroad resulting from the

interest equalization tax proposal, as well as from the

subsequent impression of hasty preparation created by the

demonstrated need for prompt amedments to the proposal.

I have had and still have serious doubts about the wisdom

of this proposal, and these doubts were conveyed to the

Treasury while the proposal was in the planning stage.

While the tax, or even the proposal thereof, will doubtless have a substantial inhibiting effect on foreign bond

offerings, it is too soon to tell whether this result will

be offset, or perhaps overshadowed, by adverse side effects

on inter-national capital flows--either in the form of a

diversion of the flow to direct invesnent or bank loans

or in the form of a capital flight induced by fears that

this tax move may be the forerunner of ultimate exchange

controls. Such fears have been expressed in financial

markets abroad to an increasing degree in the last week

or so, ard this in turn has found reflection in the delicately blanced position of the dollar in European exchange

markets.

My hope would be that after the dust has settled our

discount rate action, and the accompanying move on Regulation Q, will have gained us considerable benefits in the

way of a diminished drain of short-term capital flows.

But the discount rate action can be really effective only

if it is translated into a satisfactory firming of shortterm market rates--especially the 90-day bill rate. The

discount rate action could of course be easily construed

as an empty gesture if market rates were to fail to achieve

and maintain a healthy increase over levels prevailing prior

to the discount rate rise. In view of the state of the

exchange markets, and the uncertain and possibly perverse

effects of the interest equalization tax proposal, I think

it is doubly important that we convey through our policy

actions an impression of decisive effort to sustain foreign

confidence in

the dollar.

Thus, despite the fact that the domestic outlook is not

everything we could wish, I believe open market policy should

be directed, as soon as the books are closed tomorrow on the

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new Treasury issue, to the primary objective of achieving a

firmer short-term market rate structure to support the new

discount rate level. Incidentally, I have been assured by

the Treasury that after Wednesday we need not feel any "even

keel" restraint in working toward such a rate level, in view

of the short maturity of their offering and their avowed

intention of pressing for firmer short-term rates.

I am

thinking of a 90-day bill rate somewhere around 3-3/8 per

cent or higher, a Federal funds rate consistently at 3-1/2

per cent, and whatever level of free reserves may be consistent with these aims. My guess would be that they could

probably be achieved without dropping free reserves consistently to the zero level; and if free reserves can be kept

near their recent level, so much the better. It goes without saying, in view of the importance of our rate objective,

that we should make as much use as may be feasible of intermediate and long-term purchases, as well as swaps. While

natural factors are likely to continue to exert downward

pressure on long-term rates in any case, we need feel no

reluctance if some of our operations produce side benefits

in the way of a cushioning of the impact of the discount

rate rise on long-term rate levels.

I would like to make one side comment on the open market tools that we have at our disposal. For a long time

now some of the Committee's staff have had in mind the

question whether reverse repurchase agreements might serve

a very useful purpose on occasions when we wished to effect

a temporary absorption of reserves to prevent unduly sloppy

money market conditions. We make frequent use of repurchase

agreements to deal with temporary tightness, but we have no

comparable technique readily available at present to deal

with temporary sloppiness. The experience of last week

affords an excellent example of a situation in which this

added tool in his kit might have been extremely useful to

the Manager of the Account in his efforts to carry out the

Committee s policy directive under an unusual set of circumstances. I hope that the Committee will be willing to ask

the staff to give this possibility intensive study in the

near future.

It seems to me, now that the whole System has moved

from a 3 per cent to a 3-1/2 per cent discount rate, that

it would be quite appropriate to effect a rather general

rewording of the first paragraph of the current policy

directive, even though many of the factors mentioned in

the existing directive are still very much in our minds;

and I would also make a small change in the second paragraph to indicate the need for slightly greater firmness

in the money market.

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Mr.

Ellis commented on developments

noting in his remarks that

the response in

in

the First

District,

New England to the national

economic uptrend continued to be less than satisfactory.

to nonagricultural employment,

that for January 1963.

were above year-ago

the June rate

was virtually

the same as

Only five groups of manufacturing industries

levels in

terms of employment.

put had remained almost level throughout the first

and showed only a

With respect

Manufacturing outhalf of the year

1.3 per cent increase above a year ago.

Shoe pro-

duction for the first half of this year was about 5 per cent below

the level of a year ago, but expectations in

second half were improved.

this industry for the

The output performance, combined with

strength in the construction industry, retail spending, and Government spending had been sufficient to stimulate credit demands.

figures from

weekly reporting banks showed expansion.

Loan

Bank loan

expansion thus far this year had exceeded any recent year, with

year-to-year gains in all categories except agriculture and loans

to purchase or

carry securities.

Mr. Ellis then turned to the recent action of the Comptroller

of the Currency in removing buying and selling limitations on Federal

funds.

Two of the largest banks in the District had called at the

discount window last week, but when informed that the Federal funds

limitations had been lifted, satisfied their needs in that area.

the week of July 21,

District

banks were net purchasers of Federal

In

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funds at a rate unmatched since December 1962.

Judging from this

experience, Mr. Ellis thought that borrowings at the discount window

could be expected to be somewhat lower.

The Comptroller's action

seemed also to raise certain related questions; namely, how banks

would report Federal funds transactions in their call reports and

the relationship between national and State-chartered banks.

One

large Massachusetts State-chartered bank reportedly had been advised

to operate on the same basis as if it were a national bank, but in

Connecticut legislative action would be required to remove a limitation on the selling side.

Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Ellis noted that the effect

of recent System actions was difficult to appraise in light of the

other factors that had exerted an effect on the market, including

the President's balance of payments message, the System's action

in raising the discount rate, the Comptroller's Federal funds action,

and the Treasury's debt management activities.

In any event, however,

market rates had just about held their own since the discount rate

announcement.

The unresolved question was how much, if any, action

on reserve availability would be desirable in support of the discount

rate action.

His own conclusion, Mr. Ellis said, was that there was something to be said for getting as much positive value as possible out

of the discount rate increase, in terms of the effect of rate relationships on short-term capital outflow.

However, the market

should be

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given some time to adjust before any further substantial policy moves

were made, particularly on reserve availability.

For the period

immediately ahead, therefore, he would think, for target purposes,

in terms of a three-month bill rate of

approximately 3-3/8 per cent,

with Federal funds frequently at 3-1/2 per cent.

be in

the general area of $100

the side of firmness.

Free reserves might

million, with any doubts resolved on

Some decline in borrowing might be expected if

more reserve needs were met through the Federal funds market as a

result of the Comptroller's ruling.

He had not thought previously

about the possibility of the use of reverse repurchase agreements,

as mentioned by Mr. Hayes, for dealing with certain kinds of market

situations, but he would urge that this possibility

As to the directive,

Mr.

Ellis said he felt

could get along with the present statement.

be studied further.

the Committee

However, he was con-

cerned about the tendency to keep the directive in a standard form

for rather long periods of time and to make only slight changes in

wording.

He would like to see a reworded version of the first para-

graph, and possibly the second paragraph.

Mr. Irons stated that in the Eleventh District most of the

major activity indexes showed continued advance during June, and on

into July.

The industrial production index rose another point,

largely due to an increase in durable goods.

Nonagricultural

employment continued its gradual upward trend, and the crude oil

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situation showed advances in producticn and refining over year-ago

levels.

Construction in the District was at. an all-time record

level--better than 10 per cent above the same period last year for

the first five months--and 21 per cent up for the most recent month.

Department store sales were up about 8 per cent in July over year-ago

levels and about 4 per cent for the year to date.

The situation in

general, Mr. Irons noted, was favorable--with no surge of activity

but a steady, moderate increase.

Agriculture in the District was

closely affected by weather conditions and was difficult to appraise.

However, the major crops looked quite good at this juncture.

As to financial developments in the District, Mr. Irons noted

that loans and deposits were off a bit during the past three weeks,

with a moderate increase in investments.

The decline in deposits

was almost entirely attributable to a corresponding decline in

Government deposits.

Federal funds activity in the Eleventh District

had not yet, apparently, shown the effect of the Comptroller's ruling

mentioned by Mr. Ellis.

Average purchases had been exceeding sales,

and borrowing from the Reserve Bank had moved up somewhat.

Mr.

Irons observed that the problem presented for credit

policy seemed most difficult.

The System apparently was expected

to nudge short-term rates up, minimize any increase in long-term

rates, and at the same time maintain reserve availability and avoid

increased firmness in

the market.

For the moment,

Mr.

Irons said,

he would not favor any aggressive action by the Committee that would

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further complicate the whole market situation.

Instead, the Committee

should "feel its way along," moving in a manner consistent with its

objectives and hoping that market forces would work in such a manner

as to help make the new discount rate an effective rate.

He felt that

a bill rate of 3.25 or 3.30 per cent would be in the right direction,

but he would not advocate deliberately pushing the rate higher with

the market in its present state.

He would like to see the Federal

funds rate at 3-1/4 or 3-1/2 per cent, wit

free reserves possibly

averaging somewhere around $150 million or a little less.

He felt

that such a movement would be in the right direction, and about all

that could reasonably be expected in light of prevailing forces.

Turning to the directive, Mr. Irons said he, like Mr. Ellis,

felt that the directive should be changed at some point to take into

account what had transpired during the past few weeks.

an entirely new directive probably would he in

distant future.

In his opinion,

order in the not too

For the present, however, he would not be strongly

adverse to retaining the form of the iresent directive.

Mr. Hemmings reported that in the Twelfth District business

activity showed a modest gain in June, although the occasional bright

spots were tempered by sluggish performances in some areas.

In the

Pacific Coast States, total employment rose a little more than

seasonally, with increases in California outweighing declines in

Washington and Oregon.

However, the aggregate unemployment rate for

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the three States stood unchanged in June at the 5.9 per cent level of

May.

Although the current rate of unemployment was higher on the West

Coast than for the nation, the Pacific Coast had made a somewhat better

showing on a year-to-year basis; the unemployment rate was unchanged on

the Coast from June 1962, while it

rose slightly in

the nation.

Employ-

ment in the manufacturing industries on the Pacific Coast declined for

the fifth consecutive month, largely as a result of decreases in aircraft payrolls

in Washington.

However, ordnance employment in Cali-

fornia turned up in June for the first time since February.

Housing starts

in

month in May but were still

FHA mortgages

District.

in

the District fell

off in

June after a record

well above the year-ago pace.

Prices of

the secondary market had been leveling off in

the

Steel production had declined in recent weeks in the

District, but by a lesser percentage than in the rest of the nation.

The continuing lumber strike in the Pacific

lumber prices.

Northwest had strengthened

District farm receipts set a record for the month of May.

Department store sales (seasonally adjusted) in the District

were down slightly in

June after

a sharp recovery in May.

California

car registrations ran ahead of sales nationally in the first half of

the year.

In

the Twelfth District as a whole, however, registrations

through May apparently did not show as much of a percentage gain over

the first five months of last year as did sales nationally.

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declined slightly in the first three weeks cf July, with a decrease

in loans offsetting a rise in investments.

Reserve city banks con-

tinued to show a net borrowed reserve position, although daily average

net sales of Federal funds increased somewhat over the preceding three

weeks.

Mr. Deming said general economic activity in the Ninth District

seemed to be roughly paralleling that of the nation.

The iron ore

situation seemed to be normal, that is, not very good; shipments were

15 per cent less than in the same period of 1962.

This decrease was

attributable to the high carry-over of inventory from 1962 and was not

unexpected.

With respect to the demand for credit, District banks were

experiencing a somewhat heavier demand than the nation.

There was a

tendency toware ar outflow of funds frcm the District, and consequently District banks were somewhat less liquid than had been

anticipated on the basis of estimated credit demands.

With respect to policy, Mr. Deming said he agreed with the

position

taken by Mr. Irons as far as the next three-week period was

concerned.

The System should move carefully, avoiding any significant

lessening of reserve availability, on the one hand, and on the other

an over-abundant supply of reserves that would confuse the market

regarding System intentions about short-term rates.

He did not think

steps should be taken to push short-term rates higher at too rapid a

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pace, although he hoped market forces might work gradually in that

direction.

Longer term rates were a possible problem, and he was

also concerned about possible limitations on the freedom of action

of the Federal Reserve System.

In present circumstances, for example,

the Federal Reserve was somewhat inhibited in taking actions that would

affect long-term rates.

Likewise, he had already raised with the

Account Manager the question whether monthly auctions of one-year

bills might have some inhibiting effect.

Although Treasury coopera-

tion in holding up short-term rates seemed desirable, there might be

another side to the picture; namely, that this was a means whereby

the Treasury could exercise monetary policy decisions.

This was all

something the System should continue to watch closely, lest it find

itself restrited in taking actions in the future.

Mr. Scanlon reported that recnt evidence pointed to further

modest business improvement in the Seventh District, and expectations

of businessmen as to the remainder of 1963 were generally optimistic.

The decline in steel output appeared to be having less effect than

had beer expected.

The seasonally adjusted index of electric power

consumption for manufacturing firms in the Detroit area reached a

new high in June.

Purchasing agents in Chicago reported good levels

of activity and some lessening of upward price pressures, although

they continued to report increases on balance.

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Prospects for the automobile industry remained favorable.

Most

plants would close at the end of the current week, and all 1963 model

production was to cease next week.

Total model year production would

be over the 7,300,000 mark, a new record and almost 10 per cent above

last year.

Following the changeover, about 70,000 of the 1964 models

would be turned out in August and, barring a railroad strike, another

500,000 in September.

It was anticipated that new models would be

introduced September 26 and 27 for low priced lines and October 3 and 4

for the higher priced cars.

Preliminary estimates of retail sales for the first

half of

July showed a continuation of the flat pattern of recent months.

District department store sales, however, had remained at the sharply

increased June level.

Bank debits in the Seventh District showed a significant rise

in

June, with almost all of the 46 areas covered reporting increases.

At the same time, personal savings deposits in District areas rose

faster than in April and May, reflecting mainly an increase in the

rate of inflow that reversed the trend of the two previous months.

The withdrawal rate had declined through the second quarter, but

the reduction in the final month was relatively small.

Net farm income was expected to drop further below the year-

ago level during the rest of 1963.

Production expenses had continued

to increase, and the larger inventory of livestock was being marketed

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at lower prices.

Nevertheless, prices of good farm land continued to

increase and rose about 2 per cent during the first

half of 1963,

according to reports from country bankers.

District bank credit declined seasonally in the first three

weeks of July, but for the June-July period as a whole the gains

remained substantial.

mainly in

The net growth over the past seven weeks was

loans and "other"

(non-Federal)

securities.

short-term Governments were also reported in

at one large bank.

very moderate.

Increases in

the District, but mainly

Business demand for bank credit still appeared

However, recent declines in business borrowings had

been concentrated in the public utility, oil, and chemicals categories,

while demand from durable goods manufacturers

despite liquidation of steel inventories.

appeared to have strengthened

The Reserve Bank's June

quarterly survey of interest rates indicated that the proportion of

loans made at the prime rate was slightly greater than a year ago

even though a smaller percentage of loans was in the largest size

category.

Major District banks were still actively seeking loans

and apparently felt little reserve pressure.

As to policy, Mr. Scanlon said he would like to give the market a little time to adjust to the changes that had been made recently.

He proposed no major change in the directive and no change in the

discount rate.

In supplying reserves during the period immediately

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ahead, it might be appropriate to purchase securities largely in the

intermediate sector of the market if it was possible to do so.

Mr. Tow noted that wage and salary employment in the Tenth

District had shown only seasonal changes since the first of this

year.

Among the major industry groups, employment in services and

Government had advanced, but those gains had been offset by weakening

activity in other categories.

This performance was not in keeping

with employment developments nationally.

Total wage and salary

employment in the United States had increased each month since

January, and all major industry groups had participated in the advance.

A comparison of the trends of manufacturing in the United States

and the Tenth District brought the recent divergent movements into

rather sharp focus.

Manufacturing employment reached a high in mid-

1962 in both areas and subsequently declined.

Since early this year,

however, recovery had dominated U. S. manufacturing employment, while

in the Tenth District the decline had continued.

Weather conditions in June and July had improved crop and feed

conditions in the Tenth District, Mr. Tow said.

The wheat crop was

down from last year's small crop, however, and pasture conditions

were substantially below average.

Livestock numbers in the District

were considerably higher than last year.. Drought conditions continued to prevail in parts of the region, notably Colorado.

Because

of inadequate subsoil moisture, crops in much of the District are

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vulnerable to periods of deficient moisture and high temperatures, Mr.

Tow pointed out, but timely rains in most areas had maintained row

crops in generally favorable condition thus far.

Prices of the two major agricultural commodities produced in

the Tenth District--wheat and cattle--had been averaging about 6 per

cent below year-ago levels in recent months, while prices of feed

grains were higher.

If weather conditions were favorable, an

increased level of marketings would about offset the effects of an

anticipated lower level of prices on cash receipts as compared with

last year.

Mr. Wayne advised that in the Fifth District manufacturing

activity was holding about steady while most other sectors continued

to advarce.

In June seasonally adjusted nonfarm employment again

increased slightly.

A rise in factory employment contributed to

this gain, but because of shorter hours worked in nondurable goods

industries, seasonally adjusted factory man-hours declined.

In the

past four months nonfarm employment and factory man-hours had performed a little less favorably in the District than in

as a whole.

the nation

Rates of insured unemployment rose slightly in the

early part of July, ending several months of uninterrupted declines.

The Reserve Bank's latest survey recorded a slight further decline

in business optimism.

Viewing the near future, a majority of the

respondents expected business to do no better than maintain present

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levels.

Durable goods producers presented a mixed picture,

on balance virtually no net change.

indicating

Makers of nondurable goods, how-

ever, including textiles: reported small declines in orders, shipments.

and hours worked.

Reports on construction, trade, and bituminous coal

showed continued improvement.

In some are s, Virginia in particular,

drought conditions had seriously affected pastures and crops, but over

most of the District the farm outlook remained moderately favorable.

District weekly reporting banks had experienced a generally good

demand in all major loan categories during the past three weeks.

Nationally, Mr. Wayne observed, business activity seemed to be

continuing its slow advance, but with some tentative signs of slackening.

Certain significant indicators of future activity were less

encouraging than earlier and did not show the same uniformity of

movement as two or three months ago.

These signals,

like detour

signs on the highway, were current and fleeting; they could be removed

or reversed next month.

But in the absence of signs pointing to

significant gains just ahead,

they might well be regarded as a

caution signal.

Turning to the area of policy, Mr. Wayne commented that there

had not yet been sufficient time for the dust to settle following the

major moves of two weeks ago.

In fact, from time to time additional

dust was kicked up as new changes were made in the proposed interest

equalization tax.

Generally, the psychological reaction to the change

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in the discount rate had been quite moderate,

and the financial mar-

kets seemed to have adjusted to it quickly and smoothly.

In certain

respects they may have overadjusted--on a few days during the past

week some short-term rates were well below their levels of a month

earlier.

In any event, it

was too early to tell

what the final

reaction of the financial markets would be, much less to predict the

eventual economic effects.

In view of the adjustments to be made,

Mr. Wayne concurred in the view that a continuation of present policy

was indicated, with the proviso that the low level of certain shortterm rates at the middle of last week was an unplanned aberration and

not a part of System policy.

He was disposed to agree with Messrs.

Ellis and Irons with respect to the directive, and he would not

desire, of course, any change in the discount rate at this time.

Mr. Mills said he agreed with some

of the policy essentials

contained in Mr. Hayes' statement.. Speaking crudely, and within the

framework of interest rates, he (Mr. Mills) had been forced, unhappily,

to the conclusion that the Federal Reserve System had reached the point

where it

must either "put up or shut up."

To set forth his case some-

what more forally, Mr. Mills presented the following statement:

To use a figure of speech, the Federal Open Market

Committee crossed the Rubicon and burned its bridges behind it when a majority agreed to a somewhat restrictive

credit policy. I continue to believe that policy indefeasible from an economic standpoint and that. its continuance harbors grave risks of economic damage by way

of curtailing the availability of credit and placing

downward pressure on the money supply.

However, as

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matters stand, there is no choice other than to continue

the credit policy now in force.

1. Inasmuch as the effectiveness of the Treasury's

proposed "interest equalization tax" is open to question,

the burden of combatting the balance of payments problem

has fallen on the shoulders of the Federal Reserve System

through the enforcement of a restrictive credit policy

aimed at developing a higher interest rate structure.

2. Inasmuch as interest yields on U. S. Government

securities and other interest-bearing securities have not

moved into alignment with the 3-1/2 per cent discount rate

adopted by the Federal Reserve Banks, At will now be necessary to accomplish that alignment by reducing the supply of

reserves at the disposal of the commerial banking system.

Otherwise, the financial community will be confused about

the Federal Reserve System's policy intentions. Furthermore, the balance of payments interest rate defensive

sought after would not be achieved.

In the light of the circumstances described, I am

regrettably of the opinion that the Federal Reserve

System's policy actions until the next meeting of the

Federal Open Market Committee must move in the direction

of a still more restrictive credit policy. Judging from

the uncertainties in the foreign exchange markets that

followed upon the announcement of the "interest equalization tax" proposal, the possibility cannot be ruled out.

that the Federal Reserve System may shortly be compelled

to take emergency action in the field of discount rates

in order to drive home in the minds of the general public

that the United States is prepared to act decisively in

defense of the dollar.

Mr. Mills added that he had been interested in Mr. Hayes'

reference to a staff study of the possible use of reverse repurchase

agreements.

This was a subject worthy of study.

Personally, however,

he rather hoped that there might develop from the study a recommendation that the possibility be discarded because he was fearful it would

be just another gimmick added to the wide range of gimmicks with which

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the System was already operating..

These had resulted in handcuffing the

Government securities market and making it

a completely artificial

manipulated market.

Mr.

Robertson presented the following statement:

It is very clear that financial circles, both here and

abroad, are still in process of adjusting to the official

actions and statements of the past two weeks. These adjustments are not helped by the unprecedented nature of the

steps taken or proposed. Market participants have little

in the way of historical experience to guide their responses.

Some people, of course, have been telling us that the closest

precedent to our recent action was the discount rate increase

of 1931: but I am sure all of us hope for more favorable consequences than that. In any evert, I am sure our proper role

as central bankers at this time is not to panic at some of

the gusts and cross winds, but to hold a steady course until

the storm of reaction dies down and we can judge more soberly

where our navigation has taken us.

I was opposed to the step of raising discount rates at

this juncture. But, that action having been taken, I think

it is the better part of wisdom to allow it a chance to

make whatever contribution it can to the achievement of

current policy objectives. These I take to be some elevation of short rates, but without any basic reduction in

reserve and credit availability. By all the past precepts

of U. S. monetary management, this is very close to a contradiction in terms, and we shall have to move very carefully

to avoid having market responses prove that contradiction

Therefore, I think it is imperative that

to see.

for all

we speak in very clear terms to the Account Manager today

as to what we want him to achieve, and what order of priority

we assign to potentially conflicting desires. For example,

I would think it essential that we restore the reference to

reserve availability which was deleted from the second paragraph of the current directive at the last meeting. I would

regard it as a proper posture for the Desk to strive for

free reserves in the $100-$200 million range, with Federal

funds rates ranging between 3 and 3-1/2 per cent and perhaps

dealer loans of 3-1/4 - 3-3/4 per cent. I would not expect

the Desk always to hit these targets if inadvertent circumstances should develop, but that does not destroy their

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value as reference points for operations. Now that the discount rate transition is over, we ought to be able to expect

a return to a more reasonable relationship between bank

reserve positions and these narrow money market rates. But

I do not think it is practical for us to go further, and

include a particular range of the Treasury bill rate, or

even of a covered yield spread against foreign bills, in our

communications with the Desk.

However much a particular

trend in these latter rates is desired around this table,

they are being affected these days by many influences beyond

the reach of the Account Manager. Depending upon which way

market attitudes jell, and what other official actions are

taken or withdrawn, the bill rate may end up close to the

discount rate or well below it. But the Account Manager

should rot be asked to fight these kinds of rate movement

with open market operations. Our aim should be to hold

reserve availability steady, along with the new discount

rate, and see where the bill rate, longer term rates,

customer lending rates--and bank reserve use--finally

settle down. Then we will know better what we have managed

to accomplish, and whether or not we like the results.

If we are to take this tack, then the second paragraph

of the current directive ought, as a mnimum, to have restored the phrase concerning reserve expansion that was

deleted at the July 9 meeting. I personally would favor

giving to reserve needs at least as high priority as money

market conditions, by the use of language something like

the following:

"To implement this policy, System open market operations shall be conducted with a view to

fostering a moderate pace of reserve expansion,

while maintaining reasonably stable money market

conditions."

What we can accomplish by this, only time will tell.

I, for one, am very skeptical about making any inroads on

our capital outflow by this device. In particular, I doubt

it can have much effect on bank loans abroad, so long as

reserve availability is not cut back enough to slow domestic

and international lending alike. If a more discriminating

effect on bank loans to foreigners is to be sought, it may

have to be done by the exercise of moral suasion on the few

banks most directly involved.

This is not a procedure I like,

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but I dislike even more the apparent alternatives of reducing

reserve availability across the board or adopting some formal

version of capital controls.

Whatever course we take today to steer our way through

the market currents of the moment, we cannot afford to lose

sight of the underlying problems still plaguing our economy.

And let me remind you that, while the Brookings study suggests

that fundamental forces are at work that may remedy our balance

of payments deficit by the mid-1960's, no similarly optimistic

note is cited by studies of our chronic underemployment of

resources.

It seems obvious to me which of these two basic

problems is more in need of additional assistance from mone-

tary policy over the longer run.

Mr.

Shepardson observed that the policy proposals made around

the table this morning seemed actually to fall within a relatively

narrow range, even though they were expressed in numerous ways.

At

present, he noted, there was a confused and unsettled market situation,

and in his opinion the System should do whatever it could to clarify

its own position.

The approach outlined by Mr. Ellis appeared to him

most nearly to reach that point, although the targets cited by Mr.

Ellis were not a great deal different from those mentioned by a

number of others.

As Mr. Shepardson saw it, the Committee's objective

should be to refrain from adding to prevailing uncertainties.

Insofar

as the System could clarify the intent of its discount rate action,

that would be helpful.

This would mean, according to his view, some

move through open market operations to validate the discount rate

increase in terms of short-term rates without at the same time

deliberately reducing the availability of reserves.

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-43As to the directive, Mr. Shepardson suggested that it

might

be well, as others had proposed, to consider a rewording.

Mr. Mitchell expressed the view that this was a difficult

period for monetary policy, and for those charged with formulating

and carrying out monetary policy, with many voices outside the System

proclaiming what the System should and would do.

stances,

he felt that

the economy should

In present circum-

be given a chance to let

basic factors of supply and demand operate,

the

and it would be desirable

for the Committee to concentrate its attention on the availability of

reserves.

It should not be forgotten, he noted, that the Committee

must formulate policy in advance of the availability of statistics;

most of those presently available were for the month of June, with

some preliminary figures for the first

part of July.

If

the economy

was in the process of going flat, which was possible, and the Committee should decide on the use of rate objectives primarily,

could get into serious availability problems.

it

If it developed later

that the economy actually had turned down at a time when the Federal

Reserve was contracting the availability of reserves, that would make

a poor record.

Accordingly,

as he had said,

he would concentrate

attention at this point on the level of free reserves.

inclined to use as a target the

the markets would react.

He would be

$100-$200 million range and see how

Under these conditions, he would not worry

too much about what happened to the bill rate during the next two or

three weeks.

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-44Mr. Hickman commented that domestic business activity had moved

into the summer slack season with the weight of evidence still pointing

to continued economic expansion.

The broader measures of economic

activity had advanced throughout the second quarter.

Several less

comprehensive series, which are watched closely for clues or possible

omens, had not behaved quite as favorably as earlier, but that did not

warrant,

in his opinion, a revision of appraisal.

The second quarter increase in gross national product had been

in

line with characteristic rates of rise during periods of moderate

business expansion.

Furthermore,

the increase was entirely in final

demand, with no assistance from the inventory account.

The June rise

in the index of industrial production, which marked the fifth successive month of gain, reflected an appreciable

increase in final product

output after a number of months of relative sluggishness; as had been

expected, the industrial materials grouping contributed nothing to the

increase because of the cutback in steel.

In the steel industry, events

were proceeding as foreshadowed, with a bottoming out in production

expected for late August or early September.

Personal income had risen again in June for the fourth successive month,

largely because of a persistent upward trend in wage and

salary disbursements typical of expansion periods.

Retail sales re-

mained on a high plateau, with no significant change since February.

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July,

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indicated continued strength in

covering the first

20 days of

that strategic part of consumer

takings.

More complete information for June on the Fourth District

confirmed the expansion reported at

Mr. Hickman said,

the previous Committee meeting,

and early reports for July showed that the June

gains on balance had been at least sustained.

Department store sales

continued to unprove from their sluggish performance earlier this year.

The rate of insured unemployment in mid-July was unchanged from June,

and remained at a favorably low level;

so far this was trie

even in

the steel centers, contrary to previous experience during steel cutbacks.

Widespread improvements in the regional unemployment situation

during the past few months had been officially recognized in labor

market reclassifications for June, with one-third of the District's

major centers being upgraded.

Electric power production had risen

further in July, except for those areas where primary steel production

dominated developments.

As expected, steel ingot output in the Dis-

trict declined sharply in the past three weeks; shipments were reported

to have been sustained somewhat by the threat of a railroad strike.

Earning assets at District reporting banks had expanded sharply

in recent weeks in contrast to the national totals.

District member

banks had not been torrowing in significant amounts since the time of

the discount rate action.

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-46Turning now to System policy, Mr. Hickman said he found it im-

possible to isolate the impact of the recent discount rate action

because of other pronouncements and proposals dealing with the balance

of payments situation.

To the extent that the behavior of financial

markets both here and overseas told a story in this short period,

recent developments did not appear to have been consistent with

national policy objectives.

Probably the best the System could do

under these circumstances was to wait for the dust to settle, making

sure in the interim that there was no excessive ease in the money

market.

He would think in terms of a 3-3/8 per cent bill rate, with

Federal funds trading at 3-1/2 per cent most of the time and free

reserves allowed to fluctuate more or less as they would in the

short run.

He would not be disturbed if free reserves went to zero,

or changed to net borrowed reserves temporarily.

be re-examined,

The situation could

if, to hold up the bill rate, free reserves fell

below $100 million for an extended period of time.

At the same time, Mr. Hickman added, he was unhappy about

recent attempcs to commit the System to maintain, or reduce, the

level of long-term interest rates.

There was, in his opinion, a

potentially dangerous situation, which could lead to a de facto

restoration of the pre-1951 pegging.

recently, ".

.

As Chairman Martin has stated

it is essential that monetary policy remain flexible

and uncommitted--free to move either to check an unwanted and

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inappropriate tightening of credit, should it develop, or to defend

more aggressively the international position of the dollar, should

that be necessary."

It

seemed to Mr. Hickman that the System had

an obligation to speak out forthrightly on this matter on every

appropriate occasion.

Mr. Bopp reported that the economic situation in the Third

District had improved somewhat during the past several weeks.

Three

labor market areas had been upgraded, although their ranking was

still poor.

Increases in unemployment were no worse than expected

with the influx of school graduates into the labor market.

noted an improvement in department store sales,

District's year-to-year deficit.

He also

cutting into the

Some of these gains may disappear

as steel production declines become reflected in other indicators.

On balance, however, the picture looked a bit brighter than usual.

Total bank credit showed a decline, and business loans were

still lagging behind last year, but there continued to be some pressure

on bank reserve positions.

Mr. Bopp stated that he had voted favorably on the policy

directive at the July 9 meeting because it seemed to him-that the

use of the different instruments of monetary policy should be consistent and an increase in the discount rate was then imminent.

Under

such circumstances, it had seemed undesirable to reverse what had taken

place in terms of yields only to reverse again.

His vote, therefore,

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was essentially a vote on tactics.

As to the future, it was still an

open question whether short-term rates could be maintained at the new

levels, and reserve availability at the old.

Under these conditions,

he agreed with the view that it would be desirable to maintain

essentially an even keel for the time being, and to supply reserves

through purchases of coupon issues, selling bills if necessary.

In

his opinion, emphasis should be placed on the availability of reserves.

Mr. Bryan reported that developments in the Sixth District were

going along about in line with the national economy with a slight tendency for nonfarm employment to rise less than nationally.

Differences

from the national averages were chiefly in financial statistics; the

District had h.d a sharp rise in bank debits and in bank loans and

investments.

The Reserve Bank's agricultural economist had reviewed

the sharp expansion in lending to farmers in all sectors and had presented the view that this lending was sound and creditworthy, but Mr.

Bryan remained skeptical.

Mr. Bryan stated that he was uncertain about any recommendations he might make at this juncture regarding national monetary policy.

Without doubt, the System was confronted with some thorny problems.

If, after raising the discount rate, the System did not follow through,

at some reasonable interval, toward making the new discount rate

effective, the System would be inconsistent.

On the other hand, the

System ran a considerable risk, in making the rate effective, of doing

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injury to the economy because in his belief it would not be possible to

make the discount rate effective without working to some appreciable

degree in

the field of reserve availability.

he would prefer,

for the immediate future,

and to maintain reserve availability,

Of the two alternatives,

to allow the dust to settle

measured in

approximately $100-$200 million, or somewhere in

Mr.

free reserves

that range.

about the yield

Bryan also mentioned the concern he felt

curve on Government bonds,

at

which was quite flat.

He felt

the time was

gone when either the Federal Reserve System or the Treasury could appropriately manipulate the yield curve.

There was the real danger of an

unfunding of the public debt, which would be tragic for both the

Treasury and the System.

He hoped that neither the System nor the

Treasury would make further efforts to manipulate the rate curve.

Mr.

Bryan then turned to the dealings of the System and the

Treasury in foreign currencies and expressed concern.

a short position of about $150 million in

The System had

foreign currencies, to which

must be added the Treasury's short position (estimated at $650 million).

Altogether,

this got up to a fairly

Mr. Shuford reported that in

high level.

the Eighth District month-to-month

improvements had not been particularly noticeable.

However,

in

evalu-

ating conditions in the District, it was evident that there had been

rather significant improvement since the first of the year.

major metropolitan areas,

In the

employment had increased about 2 per cent

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since late 1962.

Industrial use of electric power had risen sharply,

with gains registered in all seven metropolitan areas.

lull, department store sales, bank debits,

shown improvement.

After an early

and business loans had all

As to the agricultural picture for the District,

farming conditions so far this year had been good.

Corn and soy beans

were developing ahead of schedule; cotton prospects were quite good;

and rice and tobacco crops were above average.

Prices of major agri-

cultural commodities seemed to be holding at about the same levels as

last year.

In the area of livestock (mainly hog and beef) prices,

there had been a recovery since the first

of the year.

Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Shuford noted the continuance

and persistence of uncertainties, which the Committee had discussed.

Among these uncertainties, there was the steel situation, the unsettled railroad wage dispute, the question of public acceptance of

the new-model autos, and the reaction to the President's recent

balance of payments message to Congress.

All of these things had

introduced uncertainty into the picture.

In these circumstances, he

favored no change in policy at this meeting.

Even though there was

the possibility of seeming inconsistent by not following through with

some action in support of the discount rate change, he did not feel

that he or the System were alone insofar as inconsistency was con-

cerned.

He would

favor, if possible, no lessening in the rate of

monetary expansion,

and he believed that the money supply should, if

possible, continue to increase at about the same rate that had prevailed

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during the past several months.

believed it

would be desirable if

range that had prevailed

With respect to the bill

rate, he

that rate could continue in the

since the last

meeting.

Some emphasis

should be given to the matter of reserve availability,

but at this

time it might be inappropriate to focus on any specific level of free

reserves.

With the changed relationships between the discount rate

and market rates,

it

might be misleading to compare the new levels

of free reserves with those that had prevailed prior to the discount

rate change.

Mr. Balderston observed that now, 29 months past the last

cyclical

low, domestic business still seemed to be moving upward.

Accordingly,

he felt

that the foreign dangers to the future health

of the economy should be the principal concern of this Committee at

the moment.

This was not to deny the possibility that the domestic

economy might even now be topping off, which would present still

further complications.

While he would not refer to the many

measures of economic strength, he was heartened by a couple of

characteristics that surprised him.

One was that individual saving

in relation to disposable income was holding up.

Another was that

manufacturing productivity in the second quarter of this year was

4.9 per cent above the year-ago figure.

But according to a recent tally the first half year wage

settlements showed a larger average increase than in the corresponding

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period a year ago.

The over-all median

settlement was 8 cents an hour

compared with 7.7 cents for the same period last year, and the manufacturing median climbed even more, from 6.8 cents in the first half

of 1962 to 7.3 cents in the first half of 1963.

Moreover, deferred

increases continued to show up in one of every two settlements, and

despite the unemployment of one out of every five inexperienced and

unskilled workers,

month.

the minimum wage was to be raised again in another

This would complete the third of such raises since 1950.

It

was little

wonder that this country's failures to reduce

labor costs and export prices did not go unnoted abroad.

In his

report to the shareholders of the Netherlands Bank, Dr. Holtrop noted

that in the last four years labor costs per unit of industrial production fell by about 3 per cent, while they were rising in the

Netherlands by 14 per cent and in Germany by 21 per cent.

But the

total wages paid per person employed rose by 17 per cent; and so Dr.

Holtrop noted that a reduction in the cost cf American industrial

production would have been perfectly possible in those years.

ever,

the index

How-

of prices for American exports rose by 4 per cent

and that for industrial finished products by as much as 9 per cent.

Dr. Holtrop added that none of this would concern Europe if

there

were no balance of payments problem; however, Europe became involved

if it was asked to join the United States in adopting measures to

safeguard stability in the international system of payments.

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Mr.

Balderston went on to say that the President's balance of

payments package encouraged him a

little

but not much.

Specifically,

he would apply selective controls at the point where he thought they

would work,

and the best place to use them was on the Government's own

spending and lending.

He hoped that the Government would make some

one individual responsible for slowing down on payments against current

commitments to place dollars abroad and to ride herd on future commitments resulting from dollar diplomacy.

As to the right policy for the System at this particular juncture, Mr. Balderston pointed out that the System has continued to feed

to the commercial banks at a 3 per cent annual growth rate the reserves

required to support private deposits.

Bank credit, that is loans and

investments, are continuing to rise at an annual rate of about 10 per

cent, which is about the same as last year's rate of 9 per cent.

compared with the last half of 1962,

As

excess reserves are about $100

million lower, and discountings about $200 million higher.

Nonborrowed

reserves have remained about constant since the turn of the year, but

it

is

significant that the use by banks of reserves made available to

them has continued to rise at a vigorous rate.

The ratio of loans to

total deposits at all commercial banks has been above 54.5 per cent

ever since 1960 and is

currently over 57 per cent,

whereas when he

came to the Board of Governors nine years ago, it was below 40 per

cent.

Of course the strong flow of savings into commercial banks

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now added to their desire to invest whatever they could not lend.

Last

year they took one out of six dollars off the increase in mortgages and

four out of five dollars of the net gain in State and local securities.

The fact that bankers have not seen fit

to curb their investments so

far meant to him that they must not be feeling restraint.

The aggres-

sive efforts of bankers to put their funds to work not only at home

but abroad led him to wonder whether the System had a good answer to

the editor of Barron's when he said:

"The-Federal Reserve and

Treasury have poured forth a flood of easy credit and a sea of red

ink.

Excessive liquidity has now become a mounting threat to the

dollar."

With respect to short-run

said that he felt it

monetary policy, Mr.

would be desirable to

Balderston

try to hold steady for

the next three weeks until market developments could be seen and

analyzed more clearly.

when it came,

However, he anticipated that the next move,

should be on the side of greater firmness.

Mr. Balderston concluded with the comment that the Federal

Reserve System must do in

its best judgment the job it

had to do,

that is, to make the right decisions at the right time with regard

to monetary policy.. It could not afford to be bound by commitments,

whatever they may happen to be.

If

the time should come for greater

or lesser monetary ease, that was the System's job and responsibility.

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-55Chairman Martin observed that he was glad Mr, Balderston had

concluded his remarks on the note he had,

for it

reminded him (the

Chairman) that he wanted to take a minute to set the record straight

in one respect.

In all of the discussions incident to the President's

balance of payments message, he (Chairman Martin) had refused to make

any commitment with regard to Federal Reserve policy.

Mr.

The quotation

Hickman had read (which was from Chairman Martin's testimony

before a Congressional committee on July 22) reflected the position

he had taken consistently.

He felt

sure that his record was com--

pletely clear in that regard.

Chairman Martin went on to express the view that. the System

was not following

recent years.

in

any way a restrictive

policy,

and had not in

It had recently been following a slightly less stimu--

lative policy, but he happened to be one of those who believed that

too much stimulation was self-defeating.

He also believed that a

good deal of the chronic unemployment in this country might be related

to the balance of payments situation,

and that until the balance of

payments problem was brought better into line the country was likely

to be faced with increasing rather than diminishing unemployment.

The Chairman noted, as one element in the current situation,

that the demand for bank credit continued to be less than many had

anticipated.

of savings,

At the same time there had developed a large volume

encouraged by the payment of

higher interest

rates,.

that

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had made available for certain types of operations a quantity of money

far in excess of what he would like to see.

and the availability of money

He doubted that the cost

could clearly be separated.

Neverthe-

less, in certain circumstances--and he thought they currently pre-

vailed--it was his opinion that a fairly good case could be made, for

a limited time,

for only modest adjustments,

if

any, in short or long--

term rates.

He was inclined to feel

sought until

such time as it could be seen whether the business

that

rate stability should be

situation was likely to improve further in the fall and whether there

was improvement or further deterioration in the balance of payments.

Factors overhanding the markets at present included not only the

balance of payments problem but the possibility of a railroad

strike and various other considerations that had been mentioned

during today's discussion.

At the Chairman's request, there were distributed at this

point alternative formulations of a possible current policy directive

that had been drafted by the staff for the Committee's consideration.

According to one alternative, the second paragraph of the directive

would call for open market operations to be conducted with a view

to continuing the present degree of firmness in the money market,

while accommodating moderate expansion in aggregate bank reserves.

According to the other alternative, operations would be conducted

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with a view to attaining a slightly greater degee of firmness in

the

money market, while accommodating moderate expansion,in aggregate bank

reserves.

In

commenting on the directive,

Chairman Martin indicated that

he was inclined to agree with the view expressed by some during today's

discussion that perhaps at some point a general rewording of the

directive should be attempted.

As to

the next three weeks,

however,

it appeared to him that the differences of opinion as to policy expressed around the table had been so slight

immediate need for any substantial change in

Mr. Mills commented that

although it

was distasteful

that

there was little

the directive.

he would like the record to show that,

to him, he would be obliged to dissent from

any consensus in favor of continuing only the present degree of market

firmness.

He felt that the System had made a mistake some years ago,

in 1957, by not making the discount rate change at that time an effective rate,

and that the System could not afford to repeat the mistake.

At that time it had confused the market as

jectives.

to its

intentions and ob-

In his view the Committee was inevitably moving toward a

more restrictive policy.

The majority had made a basic decision,

and this having been done there was an obligation on the part of the

Committee to carry through on the course it had set.

Chairman Martin responded that it was quite appropriate for

Mr. Mills'

comment to be included in the records.

Also,

for the record,

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however,

-58he (Chairman Martin) would like to say that he did not agree

with the view that a mistake was made several years ago on the occasion

mentioned by Mr.

Mills.

Mr. Hayes said he agreed strongly with Mr. Mills as to the

need for supporting the recent discount rate action at the present

time.

Chairman Martin then inquired whether it

would seem appropriate

to put the question in terms of a further substantial reduction in the

level of reserve availability,

if

necessary,

in

order to keep the

Federal funds rate at, say, 3-1/2 per cent and the bill rate around

3-3/8 per cent.

Mr. Hayes replied that he would prefer to put the

question in terms of conducting open market operations in a way that

would tend to support a Federal funds rate of 3-1/2 per cent and a

bill rate close to 3-3/8 per cent, and

taking the consequences in

terms of reserve availability, hoping that reserves could remain about

where they were but making that

a subordinate consideration.

stated that this would be his position

ever,

that the question be put in

Mr.

Mills

Mr, Mitchell suggested, how-

terms of making the availability of

reserves a primary consideration rather than a residual factor.

The

question could be stated simply on the basis of maintaining free

reserves between $100 and $200 million for

the next three weeks .

In discussion of this point, Mr., Mills said he felt that the

concept of a level of free reserves as a primary objective had long

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since been rejected.

of interest

level.

rates that

Under certain

conditions there could be movements

would not conform at

all

As had been stated on many occasions,

feel of the market that must take precedence.

to the free reserve

it

It

was the tone and

would seem to him

that the instruction to the Manager for the next three weeks would

have to be conditioned largely on the

tone and feel of the market,

consistent with whatever consensus was arrived at by the Committee.

Chairman Martin expressed agreement with the view that the

level of free reserves was not a proper sole target,

just one guide.

Mr. Ellis, who was asked to restate at this juncture the tar-

gets he had suggested earlier during the meeting, indicated that they

would include a bill rate in the area of 3-3/8 per cent and a Federal

funds rate between 3-1/4 and 3-1/2 per cent, with a free reserve target level at

$100 million,

subject to some variation in either direction.

His general thought had been to follow a course that would allow the

market to find its own footing again.

of open market operations,

If doubts arose in the conduct

he would resolve them on the side off

firmness rather than ease.

Mr. Mitchell indicated that he considered that the real issue

related to what course the Account Manager would follow if

targets became mutually inconsistent .

instruct the Manager to protect the bill

If

the several

the Committee wanted to

rate

even at the expense of

net free reserves turning into net borrowed reserves,

that was one

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policy.

-60If the Committee wanted to

target of free reserves,

ket reacted,

say,

instruct the Manager to aim at some

$100-$150 million, and see how the mar-

that would be an entirely

different

policy.

Mr. Hayes noted that the targets expressed by Mr. Ellis included

a bill rate of around 3-3/8 per cent.

Actually, the bill rate had not

been close to that level during the past three weeks.

Therefore, while

he rather liked the targets embodied in Mr. Ellis' suggested policy, he

did not think such a policy could be regarded as one of no material

change.

After further discussion as to how the policy question for the

next three weeks might best be expressed, Mr.

Hayes commented that in

light of all of the discussion that had taken place, he was inclined

to revert to an earlier suggestion that the question be decided in

terms of the alternatives

included in

the draft directive material

that had been distributed.

Upon further consideration,

there was general agreement with

a suggestion that a vote be taken on a policy directive that would

call,

in

the second paragraph,

for

context of a higher discount rate,

policy to be implemented,

in

the

by open market operations conducted

with a view to attaining a slightly greater degree of firmness in the

money market, while accommodating moderate expansion in aggregate bank

reserves.

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-61Accordingly, upon motion duly made.

and seconded, the Federal Reserve Bank

of New York was authorized and directed,

until otherwise directed by the Committee,

to execute transactions in the System

Account in accordance with the following

current economic policy directive.

It is the Committee's current policy to accommodate

moderate growth in bank credit, while putting increased

emphasis on money market conditions that would contribute

to an improvement in the capital accountof the U.S.

balance of payments. This policy takes into consideration the continuing adverse balance of payments position

and its cumulative effects and the high level of domestic

business activity, as well as the increases in bank credit,

money supply, and the reserve base in recent months. At

the same time, however, it recognizes the continuing underutilization of resources.

To implement this policy in the context of a higher

discount rate, System open market operations shall be

conducted with a view to attaining a slightly greater

degree of firmness in the money market, while accommodating

moderate expansion in aggregate bank reserves.

Votes for this action: Messrs.

Martin, Hayes, Balderston, Irons, Mills,

and Shepardson. Votes against this

action: Messrs. Bopp, Mitchell, Robert-son, and Scanlon.

It was noted that the Account Manager had suggested, in his oral

report today, that the continuing authority directive to the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, which had been amended on June 18, 1963, to

raise from $1 billion to $1.5 billion the limit on changes in the System

Open Market Account in the period between Committee meetings, might be

changed again to reduce the leeway to the former-figure of $1 billion.

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Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, section 1(a) of

the continuing authority directive was

amended so as to authorize and direct

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York,

to the extent necessary to carry out

the current economic policy directive:

To buy or sell United States Government securities in

the open market, from or to Government securities dealers

and forein

and international accounts maintained at the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York, on a cash, regular, or

deferred delivery basis, for the System Open Market Account

at market prices and, for such Account, to exchange maturing United States Government securities with the Treasury

or allow them to mature without replacement; provided that

the aggregate amount of such securities held in such Account

(including forward commitments, but not including such

special short-term certificates of indebtedness as may be

purchased from the Treasury under paragraph 2 hereof) shall

not be increased or decreased by more than $1 billion during

any period between meetings of the Committee.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday, August 20, 1963.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1963, July 29). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19630730
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19630730,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1963},
  month = {Jul},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19630730},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}