fomc minutes · August 19, 1963

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held, in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington on Tuesday, August 20,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

1963, at 9:30 a.m..

Martin,. Chairman

Balderston

Bopp

Clay

Irons

Mills

Mitchell

Robertson

Scanlon

Shepardson

Treiber,. Alternate to Mr. Hayes

Messrs. Hickman, Wayne, Shuford,.and Swan,

Alternate Members of the Federal Open

Market Committee

Messrs. Bryan and Deming, Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of Atlanta and

Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Noyes, Economist

Messrs. Baughman, Brill, Garvy, and Tow,

Associate Economists

Mr. Stone, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Malony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Sammons, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Keir, Senior Economist, Division of Research

and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Spencer,. General Assistant, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

Messrs.. Latham, Hilkert, and Coldwell, First

Vice Presidents of the Federal Reserve

Banks of Boston, Philadelphia, and Dallas,

respectively

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Messrs. Sanford, Mann, Ratchford, Jones,

Strothman, and Grove, Vice Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of New York,

Cleveland, Richmond, St. Louis, Minneapolis,

and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Brandt, Assistant Vice President, Federal.

Reserve Bank of Atlanta

Mr. Anderson, Financial Economist, Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston

Mr. Meek, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the Committee

a report from the Special Manager of the System Open Market Account on

foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market Account and

Treasury operations in

foreign currencies

for the period July 30 through

August 14, 1963, together with a supplementary report covering the

period August 15 through 19, 1963.

Copies of these reports have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

In

comments supplementing the written reports, Mr.

that the foreign exchange markets had been subject,

meeting of the Committee,

Sanford noted

since the previous

to two principal influences:

(a)

the uncer--

tainties arising from the proposed interest equalization tax which

affected, in largest measure, the dollar/Swiss franc rate, and (b) the

dullness which settles down in the foreign exchange markets in August

when many Europeans take their vacations.

TheLondon gold market was

also influenced by the uncertainties concerning the position of the

dollar, and at times the turnover was quite heavy.

The gold price was

generally held between $35.09 and $35.10 or a bit more, but as demand

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exceeded the amount of newly produced gold entering the market, the

central bank gold pool suffered a loss.

Meanwhile, the U. S. gold

stock was reduced $50 million in the week ended August 14, following

three weeks in which no change occurred.

The drop in the gold stock

had fortified holdings of the Stabilization Fund to a point at which

the expected usual French taking of $34 million in August should not

occasion any further drop in the gold stock.

The Swiss franc continued to be subject to considerable upward

pressure, as a result of continued tight money conditions in Zurich and

the demand for Swiss francs from abroad.

Some of the pressure was

relieved by U. S. Treasury spot sales here of $9.7 million equivalent

and forward sales abroad of Swiss francs amounting to 33 million dollars

equivalent in the closing days of July and opening days of August, and

the System Account Management offered to reactivate swap drawings in

order to forestall a possible conversion of dollars into gold by the

Swiss authorities.

The Swiss National Bank, however, suggested that

it deal with the situation for the time being through two methods:

(1) taking in surplus dollars in its own market and giving the New York

Reserve Bank orders to sell Swiss francs in the New York market after

the close of the Zurich market, and (2) engaging in a swap transaction

for $10 million with its own market by which it bought $10 million from

the Swiss banks on a spot basis, and simultaneously sold them forward

to the same banks.

The Swiss cooperation seemed to have been of ad-

vantage to the Federal Reserve, in that it stretched out the interval

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between the retirement of the previous use of the swap facility between

the System and the National Bank and the next possible use; and over and

above that the Swiss National Bank provided the Swiss francs with which

the market could be kept orderly somewhat above,

which the central bank usually intervenes.

or at, the rate at

On most days the New York

Reserve Bank had 10 million francs with which to operate in the New York

market, and on one occasion 20 million francs to use if the pressure

reached such a level as to necessitate their use.

In the period since

July 18, the aggregate of Swiss franc sales in the New York market for

the Swiss National Bank had been the equivalent of $12.3 million; the

Swiss National Bank itself had taken in $14 million; and it had swapped

$10 million with its market.

The aggregate of operations by the Swiss

National Bank therefore had been $36 million, which with the $43.0

million of Treasury spot and forward operations gave a total of $79 million

of dollar-supporting operations in Swiss francs since July 18.

Aside from

one occasion when the dollar declined to 4.3150 Swiss francs to the dollar,

the rate in general had been maintained around 4.3160; it

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was now at

To the amount of assistarce to the dollar extended in the

case of the Swiss franc,

there should be added a net amount of $29 million

acquired by the Bundesbank (for one brief period the Bundesbank had to

sell dollars to support the DM rate; the Federal Reserve participated to

the extent of $7-1/2 million and was able to reduce its swap drawings by

that amount), and the sale of $12.5 million of French francs by the System

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with the francs provided by the drawing on the swap arrangement.

The

aggregate amount of assistance to the dollar since. July 18 had been at

least $121 million plus the $28 million absorbed by purchases of gold

in the London market.

Reverting to the strong demand for Swiss francs in recent weeks,

Mr. Sanford said that some of the demand had been identified with movement of dollar funds by Latin Americans unwilling to divulge the true

ownershp of securities to avoid the proposed interest equalization tax

(and perhaps for reasons related to their own governments); some of the

demand had been associated with trust companies in the U.S. shifting

funds to Switzerland to obtain increased flexibility, in view of the

proposed tax.

Over and above these indications of actual flows of funds,

there had been reports by recently returned bankers and brokers, who

asserted that their commercial bank contacts on the Continent believed

that European holders of American securities would tend to liquidate

such securities because they viewed the proposed interest equalization

tax as a first

step in exchange controls on capital movements; such

contacts believed that losses of funds for this reason might exceed

amounts saved by the imposition of the tax.

Among developments in Europe affecting the status of the dollar,

it was worthy of note, Mr. Sanford said, that the French authorities had

tightened up materially their restrictions on borrowings abroad of French

companies.

This should have a salutary effect.

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-6Turning to Canada, Mr. Sanford noted that the Bank of Canada,

after suffering further exchange losses, had increased its discount

rate from 3-1/2 to 4 per cent,

effective August 12, and the exchange

rate showed a moderate but short-lived rise.

92.35,

The rate was now about

some 20 points above the low reached on July 19.

The sterling market had been remarkably quiet during the past

month, and the rate had held at 2.80 or slightly better until yesterday,

when it dipped below par.

at 2.7990,

At that point the System Account purchased,

one million pounds of sterling which was being offered in

the market,

in order to nip in the bud any incipient speculative move-

ment, and the Bank of England cleaned up its market at the same rate

before closing for the day and leaving a trading order with the Federal

In addition, the Treasury offered to

Reserve that was not touched off.

purchase sterling.

The weakness in

sterling was attributed to a con-

siderable widening of the trade gap in

July.

The covered interest arbitrage between U. S. Treasury bills and

U. K.

and Canadian bills

no real advantage in

flow of fund

had recently

moving funds

in

been at or close to parity, with

either direction.

through other money market instruments,

Concerning the

i.e.,

U.

K.

public

authorities paper and Canadian commercial and financial paper, there

had been a virtual balance of small outflows and reflows for the past

four weeks, according to the fragmentary data collected at the Reserve

Bank's Exchange Trading Desk.

This compared with an outflow of about

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$45 million in the previous four weeks.

in

Naturally,

the recent increase

the Canadian discount rate might change the picture again, as some

of the Canadin market rates had beer marked up.

reply to a request for further comment with regard to recent

In

developments

in

respect to sterling, Mr.

Sanford noted that the market

had reacted fairly quickly yesterday to the most recent British trade

figures.

While it could be said that the figures for any one month

were not particularly significant, there ias some feeling that a speculative movement might build up.

in

movement

Therefore,

in order to stop any such

its tracks, measures were taken to guard against it

and adequately.

So far as could be observed,

promptly

the sterling pressure was

not characterized by any unusual movement of funds, for example to

Switzerland.

manner in

It

appeared,

in

part,

to have something to do with the

which banks in this country and abroad manage their foreign

exchange positions.

In reply to a question as to whether there had been any indication

of an inflow of short-term funds following the Federal Reserve discount

rate increase, Mr.

he had cited in

Sanford said the only definite evidence was that which

his previous comments.

Movements of short-term funds

between this country and Canada and the United Kingdom, which are particularly susceptible to interest rate differentials, apparently were essentially

in

balance for the most recent four weeks whereas in the previous four

weeks there was a loss of $45 million.

No data were yet available to

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indicate whether this situation had been altered by the increase in the

Canadian discount rate.

Neither was there any indication as yet of a

shift by U. S. corporations or others out of the Euro-dollar market.

However,

the narrowing of the differential between Euro-dollar rates

and short-term rates in this country would seem to suggest that perhaps

some tendency to shift out of the Euro-dollar market might develop.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote, the System

Open Market Account transcctions in foreign

currencies during the period July 30 through

August 19, 1963, were approved, ratified,

and confirmed.

Mr.

Sanford noted that the $50 million standby swap arrangement

between the System and the Netherlands Bank would mature September 13,

1963, and he recommended renewal of this arrangement for another three

months.

The proposed renewal of the swap arrangement, as recommended by Mr. Sanford, was

approved unanimously.

Mr. Sanford also noted that the Federal Reserve sterling/Swiss

franc swap with the Bank for International Settlements would mature on

September 10, 1963.

1963.

This swap was entered into originally on June 10,

In view of the tight situation in the Swiss franc market, he

recommended renewal for another three months unless conditions had

changed by early September.

The proposed renewal, as recommended

by Mr. Sanford, was noted without objection.

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This concluded the discussion of System foreign currency

operations and related matters.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report covering open market operations in U. S.

Government securities

and bankers' arceptances for the period July 30

through August 14, 1963, and a supplementary report covering the period

August 15 through 19, 1963.

Copies. of these reports have been placed

in the files of the Committee.

In

supplementation of the written reports,

Mr. Stone commented.

as follows:

Our principal concern during the past few weeks has been

to achieve slightly firmer money market conditions in order to

help bring about a level of short-tern interest rates more in

consonance with the discount rate increase adopted by the System

last month. In terms of Treasury bill rates, progress toward

few days of the

this objective was disappointing in the first

recent period. Shortly after the last meeting, we learned that

the Treasury would not, after all, offer a strip of bills during

the period, as both we and they had expected. Moreover, there

developed a particularly active nonbark demand for bills-especially from various State and local authority funds--which

absorbed dealers' limited supplies and pulled rates lower.

Indeed, the demand was such that dealers' trading positions in

bills fell from about $680 million on Monday, July 29, to about

$450 million on Friday, August 2--despite dealer awards of $640

million in the July 29 auction. By August 2, the three-month

bill rate briefly touched a low point of 3.20 per cent bid. If

not for the market's belief that additional Treasury cash

financing in the bill area was a likely possibility, rates might

well have pulled even lower.

The subsequent turn-around, which carried the three-month

rate up to about 3.36 per cent in yesterday's auction, had

several causes. Mainly, it was a product of the modest firming

of bank reserve positions which developed after the last meeting

of the Committee. Given this moderate edge of firmness, commercial banks were induced to make sizable net sales of bills.

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Moreover, in the course of achieving a firmer condition in the

money market, the System sold about $500 million of Treasury

bills in three go-arounds of the market--on August 7, 13, and

15--which not only absorbed reserves but also helped directly

to enlarge market supplies of bills. The ability of the System

Account to make this volume of bill sales in the market, and to

satisfy part of the foreign account demand for bills, without

depressing reserve Levels too sharply, was partly a reflection

of the Account's purchases of roughly $280 million of couponbearing securities in the market.

At the same time that System and commercial bank selling

was adding to supplies, nonbank demand was tending to lessen

somewhat, and by Friday, August 16, the dealers' trading

position in bills had risen to about $1.2 billion--which,

however, was still a relatively low level by ordinary standards.

In addition, market expectations of Treasury financing in the

bill area were also a factor tending to produce cautious

attitudes and higher rates in the bill market--although it is

questionable how long these expectations would remain a factor

if the Treasury does not follow through with some offerings

fairly soon. As I shall outline in a moment, the market may

not have too long to wait before seeing these expectations

fulfilled.

In comparison with bills, the market in Treasury notes and

bonds was relatively dull during the recent period, with small

net

chanes

in

price and quiet trading, activity.

Here too,

expectations of Treasury financing overhung the market--in this

case involving anticipations of a pre-refunding or advance

refunding in which, as in other recent operations of this kind,

attractive investment opportunities wculd open up in every major

sector of the maturity scale.

There also was little change in prices of corporate and

municipal securities. New issue reaching the market encountered

fairly aggressive bidding by underwriters, but in most cases

only lukewarm interest from investors.

In the corporate area,

where supplies have been light and are expected to remain light

in the immediate future, the slow sales of recent issues have not

been a problem, but in the tax-exempt area some signs of congestion have again begun to emerge.

The Treasury faces a busy financing schedule for the next

several weeks. We expect that the first in a series of monthly

offerings of one-year Treasury bills may be announced tomorrow

for auction next Tuesday and payment on September 3. The amount

would be $1 billion. Then, probably on September 4, the Treasury

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would announce an advance refunding operation for which

subscription books would be open from September 9 through

13. Details of the refunding are not yet decided, but it

may include a pre-refunding of May 1964 issues as well as

an advance refunding of some 1966 and 1967 maturities. At

the same time that it announces the advance refunding, the

Treasury would announce a $1 billion strip of Treasury

bills to be auctioned about September 11 and paid for a

week later. We understand that the cash borrowings through

the one-year bills and the bill strip would relieve the

Treasury of any need to borrow additional cash until early

October.

As a matter of information for the Committee, I should

like to turn for a moment or two to the question of the

procedures for allocating the System Account. We noted, at

the time the present procedures were adopted last March,

that the useful life of these procedures would be limited

and that we would continue in our efforts to devise a set

of rules that would be adequate to circumstances in which

The existing

reserve ratios push closer toward 25 oer cent.

procedures have worked very satisfactorily. But the fall

expansion of note and deposit liabilities will soon be getting

under way, and our gold stock will very likely show further

declines. Thus we may, sometime this fall, begin to experience

difficulty

with the procedures now in effect.

We have therefore developed, in a tentative way, a revised set of procedures which we hope to have in shape for

the Committee's consideration in the near future.

In further comments, made in response to questions, Mr. Stone

stated that recent dealer short positions in coupon issues reflected

primarily a commitment on the part of certain dealers to deliver $197

million of 4 per cent Treasury bonds of 1970 to Grant County, Washington,

by the end of this year.

This commitment was filed about the end of July,

at which time dealer positions in 5 to 10-year bonds automatically moved

from a long to a short position.

Actually, there were modest long

positions in the hands of some of the dealers.

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-12With regard to Open Market Account transactions in

coupon issues

since the previous Committee meeting, Mr. Stone said the securities

purchased for the Account had been coming in part from the long positions

of those dealers who had such securities and in

part from investors who

were selling bonds in the market for one reason or another.

In every

case the Account operations in coupon issues had been addressed to the

problem of exerting some upward pressure on bill rates without any

sharp or major decline in reserve availability.

In order to achieve

these objectives in a situation where the Treasury did not add to the

supply of bills and nonbank demand for bills was vigorous, the Desk was

forced to resort to the device of purchasing coupon issues.

On August

1 and 2, when the first purchases were made, Treasury bill rates were

declining--reaching 3.20 per cent on the latter

day--and at the same time

a position of net borrowed reserves was being faced.

regard it

The Desk did not

as compatible with the Committee's instructions to supply

reserves through the bill

market under those circumstances.

available, however, and the Desk therefore bought bonds.

Bonds were

Some bonds

were also purchased on August 8 after bill rates had turned around and

had reached the level that prevailed at the beginning of operations under

the directive issued by the Committee at the July 30 meeting.

On August 8,

foreign account purchase orders for bills amounted to $41 million.

The

Account Management felt that if those bills were acquired in the market,

that might reverse some of the progress that had been made; therefore,

bills were sold out of System Account.

However, this again gave rise

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to a net borrowed reserve position, and the Desk bought bonds offered

by dealers at their initiative.

Other coupon issues were purchased

last Thursday and Friday, the Desk having sold $400 million of bills

in the market on Tuesday and Thursday to exert upward pressure on the

bill rate.

That rate had moved up to the neighborhood of 3.30, and it

seemed to the Account Management that circumstances pointed to this

level as a plateau.

It appeared that if some additional bills were made

available to the market, the rate could be gotten up from the plateau

to the 3-3/8 per cent level mentioned at the July 30 Committee meeting.

The Desk was aware that it would be necessary to re-supply some reserves

absorbed through the sale of bills, and bonds again were available in

moderate amount.

The bill rate in yesterday's auction was 3.36.

However, net borrowed reserves again came into the picture to a slight

degree, and the Desk again supplied reserves by acquiring bonds.

In all

instances, the operations were directed toward the effect on the short

rate, not the long rate.

In reply to an inquiry concerning market reaction to these opera-

tions, Mr. Stone suggested that it

was necessary to go back to the 1961

experience in discussing this point.

The market had placed upon the

1961 experience the same interpretation as on the current operations.

It had become clear to the market rather quickly that operations in

long-term issues were addressed to the short-term rate, and that the

operations were being conducted in such a way as to insure the System's

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remaining a marginal participant in whatever sector of the market it

conducted operations.

The article in the Federal Reserve Bulletin of

April 1963 had made that clear in respect to operations during 1962.

If on occasion bond prices declined and the System did not have a shortrate problem and was not in the market, he anticipated that there would

soon be a clear market understanding that the current operations in coupon

issues were of the same variety as the operations in 1961 and 1962

Askec

whether he felt

that commercial banks might have been led

to feel justified in extending their portfolio maturities in reliance

on Federal Reserve operations, Mr. Stone said he thought not.

On the

contrary, he believed that the market retained a healthy skepticism

about long-term rates.

There seemed to be a general expectation that

short rates had about reached a level where they might continue for

some time, along with some expectation of increases in long-term rates.

In further discussion of this point, Mr. Hickman agreed that

money market banks might be quite sophisticated about this matter and

anticipate an ultimate adjustment in

country banks, at least in

long-term rates.

However, some

the Fourth District, were being lured into

longer maturities by the plateau in long-term rates.

Some of them had

talked to him about this, and he had warned them against proceeding on

such an assumption.

Mr. Wayne referred to the case of a reserve city

bank in the Fifth District that did not have any maturities under one

year, perhaps none under two years, apparently relying heavily on

expectations with regard to Federal Reserve operations.

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-15In response to an inquiry about the further availability of

coupon issues to the Account, Mr. Stone said that more were available.

The volume of offers each day ran from $150 to $300 million.

The Desk

tried consistently to remain a marginal participant in whatever part of

the market it conducted operations.

Mr. Bopp noted that he had been a participant in the morning

open market telephone conference call during the past period.

To in-

dicate the type of problems that had been faced, he observed that as

of Friday the estimate was for net borrowed reserves of something like

$30 million, weekly average.

Had this persisted and such a figure been

published, various interpretations would have been placed upon it.

However, a supplying of reserves through the bill market would have had

some effect on the bill rate, which was no higher than desired.

the Desk went into coupon issues.

Therefore,

It was a complicated thing that the

Desk was trying to achieve, and he felt it had performed well under the

circumstances,

Mr. Stone estimated that in the absence of the operations in

coupon issues, reserves would have had to be about $100 million lower.

on average to achieve the same results in terms of the bill rate.

Chairman Martin mentioned that some market participants with

whom he had talked had at first been very skeptical about operations

designed to bolster the short rate and keep the long rate from rising.

Rather interestingly, however, they now appeared to have more respect

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for such operations than previously.

The Chairman also observed that

greater loan demand at banks could change the picture rather quickly.

The expectations of bankers regarding loan demand were not yet being

fulfilled.. The demand might come quite suddenly, but it had not appeared thus far.

Asked whether it would be fair to say that the System purchases

of coupon issues did not push up the price of coupon issues and that

whatever impact the purchases had was to prevent a decline in such

prices, Mr. Stone replied that he thought this was probably right.

doubted, however,

that the declines would have been very great.

He

The

prices of issues from 1965 on out showed a gain of only one or two

thirty-seconds, and other issues showed a decline of one or two

thirty-seconds.

In the absence of the System operations, he guessed

there might have been a decline of eight or ten thirty-seconds.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote, the

open market transactions in Government

securities and bankers' acceptances during

the period July 30 through August 19, 1963,

were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

The Chairman then called for the usual staff economic and

financial reports beginning with Mr. Noyes, who presented the following

statement on economic developments:

You may recall that I reported at the last meeting that

the economy seemed to be moving along as well as, or perhaps

a little better than, one might reasonably have expected, but

that this relatively good performance had not yet been fully

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reflected in businessmen's attitudes toward the period ahead.

Since then, it appears that economic activity has generally

continued to improve and that the lag in confidence and

expectations as to the future is rapidly being eliminated.

In terms of the indicators of actual activity, we find

pluses in both the current data and revisions of earlier months

for retail trade and industrial production. Further evidence

of better than expected performance is found in the upward

revision of the new orders figures for June, the continuation

of the record $64 billion rate of construction activity in

July, some further pickup in employment, and continuing good

reports on second quarter profits.

Evidence of the improved psychological climate can be

found in the renewed bull movement in stocks and the strong

buying intentions expressed by onsuers in recent surveys.

Adding further to confidence has been the strong behavior of

the so-called leading indicators, which were "officially"

interpreted at the Treasury consultants' meeting last week as

signaling an upward movement in general activity for at least

six to nine months to come. It may be worth noting, despite

the fact that their record as forecasters is not very impressive, that the academic economists at that Treasury meeting

all seemed quite confident that business would continue to

improve through the remainder of the current year, and they

addressed such critical comments as they had on current policy

to its failure to close the gap between actual and potential

output, rather than to the danger of an imminent downturn.

All this is not to say that the third quarter, as a whole,

is not still likely to show less expansion than its predecessor-but only that most expectations had been geared to more flattening out than has developed thus far. If markets carry their

optimism too far, they are Likely to be disappointed by the

August performance. Taking the production index as an example,

present steel and auto production schedules, combined with as

much expansion in other areas as we had in July, would only

hold the index at its present level--not carry it up still

another point.

Thus we find ourselves in a situation very similar to

those which have occurred previously in this period of expansion

and recovery. Economic activity is expanding, moderately on the

whole, as one sector after another seems to spurt forward and

then pause. There is no clear reason to suppose that it will

depart from this pattern in the period ahead. Business sentiment,

or confidence, has been fluctuating more widely around this

already undulating uptrend, and at the moment it seems to be

improving rather rapidly.

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It is really impossible to relate these changes in

general economic conditions and sentiment to the recent

moderate shifts in Federal Reserve policy. As best we can

measure it, there has been little or no significant change

in the seasonally adjusted rate of monetary expansion.

Thus, at least by this test, whatever the Committee's intentions may have been, there has been little or no shift

in policy of which to measure the impact. Much the same

might be said of long-term rates and credit availability

in long-term capital markets. Whether by chance or by

design, recent changes in credit cost and availability

seem to have been limited to the short money market--where

one would not expect to find much impact on business activity.

On the other hand, it is hard to relate the improved

domestic sentiment to any increase in confidence in the dollar.

If anything, skepticism as to the adequacy of measures to protect the dollar seems to have increased, both at home and

abroad.

I might add in passing that similar observations might be

made regarding fiscal policy.

Measured by the current deficit,

the Federal Government has been providing less stimulus to the

economy than was expected--but it is hard to relate any of the

shifts

in output or sentiment to this phenomenon.

It is even

hard to see any connection between the recent improvement and

the fact that the tax bill has finally made some tortuous

progress.

Taken altogether, the evidence seems to suggest that the

private sector of the economy is plodding ahead, not expecting

or getting much help or hindrance fron monetary, fiscal, or

I would say that this performance

debt management policies.

tends to confirm the opinion--which I think everyone around

this table has expressed at one time or another--that, for

better or worse, the economy has a considerable capacity to

adapt to small changes in policy and take them in its stride.

It would be a great mistake to leap from this observation to

the conclusion that the rate of activity is completely insensitive to changes in the monetary climate. As suggested

earlier, the general presumption has been that a firming of

rates and tone successfully quarantined in the short money

market sector should not have much effect on domestic invest-

ment. That this judgment appears to be vindicated by recent

developments does not mean that a more generalized increase in

rates and lessening of credit availability would not exert a

considerable restraining influence on investment decisions.

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-19Mr. Brill presented the following statement on financial devel-

apments:

The past three weeks have provided a sharp test of money

market management in achieving multiple objectives, with what

appears to have been a substantial degree of success. Despite

erratic but on the whole rather moderate reserve needs, despite

Low dealer inventories early in the period, despite substantial

norbank demands for bills, and despite the absence of any thrust

to an expectant market from debt management, bill rates have

been moved up closer to the 3-3/8 per cent level and, with just

a few days' exception, the Federal funds rate has been kept

snug against the discount rate. Long-term rates, on the other

hand, have been stable.

These rate developments were accompanied by a shade more

pressure on bank reserves. Required reserves supporting private

deposits have stayed above the 3 per cent guideline, but by a

somewhat narrower margin than in July. Excess reserves have

been somewhat smaller than the average in July and member bank

borrowings somewhat higher, yielding a free reserve average over

the first two weeks of this month below $100 million, compared

with almost $160 million in July.

Now we are entering a period in which a number of seasonal

factors are expected to be operating in the direction of easing

the task of maintaining the higher level reached by short-term

rates. Nonbank demand for bills should be tapering off and then

turning to substantial supply, as dividend and tax payment dates

approach, and the impact on markets should be accentuated by the

fact that dealer inventories have beer restored to more usual

levels from the very low point reached earlier this month. The

Treasury is expected to be adding to the supply of short-term

instruments, on net, through the new monthly cycle of one-year

bills and through a strip issue to sop up any demands for bills

which might arise from swapping operations in the yet-to-beannounced pre- and advance refundings.

Reserve needs over the next three weeks will be substantial,

first from month-end reduction in float and then from the currency

outflow over the Labor Day week end, and all through this period

from the usual fall step-up in business loan demands. The question at the moment is whether these reserve needs can be met in

full while maintaining upward pressure on bill rates. The

answer is probably "yes," by artful meeting of reserve needs on

a somewhat reluctant basis and, as far as possible, through

purchases outside the short-term area. But the probability of

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success is heavily weighted by the expectation of full strength

in the seasonal forces operating to increase the market supply

of bills and by the expectation of no adverse market developments

arising from the Treasury's debt restructuring operations.

It would be wise, however, to exercise some caution in

assessing the strength of seasonal influences on which we may

count at this stage of the economic cycle. This is not to

suggest that I detect any note of weakness in the fundamentals

of the economy. As Mr. Noyes has pointed out, expansionary

forces continue far stronger than many had anticipated this

far along in an upswing. Total output is running close to the

rate the Council of Economic Advisers had projected earlier

this year as the upper limit of expectations after a midyear

tax cut. While there is no clear evidence pointing to a sharp

acceleration in activity, neither is there any to suggest any

marked slowing from the 5 per cent annual rate at which dollar

GNP appears to have increased so far this year.

But even with continued expansion in economic activity,

it is possible to get less than full seasonal pressures in

financial markets. As a result of high levels of activity and

last year's revision in business taxes, the internally generated

flow of corporate funds was in record volume in the first half

of the year while investment spending remained at or below 1962

levels.

Corporations apparently did not use their surpluses to

add to liquid asset holdings--in fact, it is estimated that they made

more that seasonal reductions in these assets--but they did reduce

sharply their dependence on external financing both from banks

and from the capital markets.

One can only speculate about more recent developments in the

corporate financial picture, but there is nothing in the data on

sales and costs to suggest any reduction in profits in this third

quarter. Even if spending for irventories and plant and equipment

should rise to the levels projected earlier by businesses, dependence on external financing and pressure to liquidate financial

asset holdings are likely to be small this autumn compared to the

strong demands for credit that developed in the late summer and

fall of last year. It would take substantially more of a rise in

spending than is currently projected to put much of a pinch on

the fund. of the business sector, and the sluggish business loan

demands of recent weeks andthe dearth of new corporate security

issues on the calendar suggest that such a pinch has not yet

occurred. Federal financing needs are also running less than was

projected earlier, and the high level of the Treasury balance at

a time when the Treasury is seeking a further extension of the

debt ceiling is limiting debt management's use in support of

short-term rates.

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The flow of consumer savings to financial institutions

seems to be slackening somewhat from the peaks of late 1962

and early 1963, but it is still at historically high levels.

The consumer sector as a whole has absorbed much of its own

saving through the rising incurrence of mortgage debt, and

there are no signs of any diminution in this loan demand.

One can wonder, however, whether the rise in consumer credit,

which alo has absorbed more savings this year than last,

will be sustained short of some--as yet unobserved--substantial

easing in terms.

To summarize and perhaps oversimplify, at current levels

of interest rates, at current propensities to spend and invest,

and with the current total and composition of tax burden, the

tending to generate demands for financial

economy is still

assets faster than demands for borrowed funds. The reluctant

downward pressure on interest rates cannot be alleviated by the

classic 19th century device of permitting funds to flow abroad

One alternative, increasing domestic credit

at a faster rate.

demands at prevailing interest rates, apparently has to continue

to wait on some stimulus from fiscal policy. The other alternative

is to reuce the supply of funds flowing into domestic credit

markets, at least that supplement to saving flows supplied by the

central bank. So far, our policies haven't reduced this supplement, but rather have made it more expensive to obtain and more

temporary in nature, by forcing the growth in bank reserves to

come largely from the discount window rather than the trading

desk. Whether this will be adequate to sustain the present rate

structure in the context of continued moderate credit demands

seems doubtful. Perhaps not in the three-week period immediately

ahead, when so many factors will be operating to sustain rates,

but later in the month when some of the seasonal factors start

running against us, it is possible that the twin targets of

continue credit availability and high short-term rates will

prove more difficult to reconcile.

Mr. Sammons presented the following statement with respect to the

U. S. balance of payments:

According to preliminary monthly data, the balance of

payments deficit in July was considerably reduced from the high

second quarter rate.. With the French and Dutch advance repayments, and some benefit from the reversal of end-of-June window

dressing, there was actually a small surplus. Without these

special influences, and making some allowance for seasonal

factors, the "gross" deficit was probably under $200 million--still

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uncomfortably high, but much reduced from the $400 millionper month second quarter rate.

However, the partial weekly data--which are frequently

quite misleading--show a $190 million deficit again for the

first two weeks in August, still slightly better than the

second quarter rate, after rough allowance for seasonal factors.

However, it seems clear that, at best, we are still operating

in the $3-4 billion a year deficit range.

We do not yet have any direct data on the factors--trade

or capital movements--accounting for the somewhat improved

July position. It is, therefore, still too early to say with

any confidence what effect the discount rate rise and the

President's balance of payments message have had on our balance

of payments. Perhaps all that can yet be said was said here by

Mr. Hersey three weeks ago:

"the initial effects have not been

clearly favorable for the U. S. balance of payments outlook."

Activity in the market for new foreign issues has been

relatively limited in the last month. It is not clear to what

extent this situation represents the normal seasonal lull and

to what extent it represents a reaction to the interest equalization tax proposal.

But the latter has certainly produced a

widespread feeling of uncertainty in the market.

It must be remembered that long-term interest rates in many

foreign countries whose securities are not exempt from the proposed

tax exceed rates in the United States by about 1 per cent per annum

or more.

Thus, unless alternative sources of funds are forthcoming,

some borrowers may still come into the U. S. market even if their

issues are subject to the tax.

Data on short-term capital movements in July are not yet

available, but the recent rise in short-term interest rates in

the United States has not yet resulted in narrowing interest

rate differentials to an extent that might be expected to have

The uncovered difference

a major effect on capital movements.

between the U. K. and U. S. Treasury bills dropped about 35

basis points from late June to the present; but on a covered

basis there was little change as the discount on forward sterling

narrowed. The covered advantage on Canadian Treasury bills has

dropped from about 30 basis points to zero due entirely to a

The interest rate

wider discount on the forward Canadian dollar.

on 90-day Euro-dollar deposits continues to exceed the U. S. bill

rate by about 70-90 basis points, and is presently about 60 basis

points above the rate offered by U. S. bankF on marketable certificates of deposit.

Nor do we find any great encouragement in the movement of

exchange rates. The U. S. dollar has strengthened against the

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Canadian dollar and, to a much lesser degree, against sterling.

On the other hand, the dollar has required significant support

against the Swiss franc, and other Continental currencies have

remained firm. Reserve gains in July were again large for

Germany ($70 million) and for France (over $200 million before

the debt repayment).

The Bank of Canada's action to raise its discount rate to

4 per cent effective August 12 had only a very temporary

strengthening effect on the Canadian dollar.

Canadian short-

term rates have moved up about the same as U. S. rates;

Canadian long-term rates have also risen somewhat, thus

slightly widening the difference between U. S. and Canadian

yields at that end of the market.

Whatever may be the effects of policy measures already

taken--or of others that may be taken--on capital movements

and government aid, from all points of view the most satisfactory solution to our balance of payments problem would involve

an increase in our export surplus. Since there is no reason

to expect imports to decline--on the contrary, they will continue

to rise as our output increases--this means larger exports.

The

latest trade figures, while moderately encouraging, do not yet

show any signs of a major breakthrough. As a matter of fact,

June exports were down about 4-1/2 per cent from May, and, at

an annual rate of $21.8 billion, were about equal to the

average or the entire first half of the year, and about 4-1/2

per cent above the 1962 average.

It may be that the relatively more rapid rise in wages

and prices that has occurred in Europe, in the last 2-3 years

has not yet been reflected in export prices to the full extent

that it will be--there are always some lags in these things.

Nevertheless, it would be foolish to depend on additional help

from this quarter. The need for continuously and forcefully

strengthening the competitive position of U. S. goods in world

markets, if we are to secure a liberal solution to our problem,

becomes increasingly evident, in my judgment.

Chairnan Martin called at this point for the usual go-around of

comments and views on economic conditions and monetary policy beginning

with Mr. Treiber, who presented the following statement:

Over-all economic activity continued to push upward in

July. The further rise in industrial production, despite the

downward influence of steel and auto output, the increase in

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equipment production, the rise it outlays for commercial and

industrial building, and the increase in retail sales strengthen

meeting of the Committee,

the view, expressed by many at the last

that the domestic economy will advance further over the remainder

of the year. There are still uncertainties with respect to the

prospects for Federal income tax reduction this year, the ability

of auto sales to sustain their recent high levels, and the ability of other industries to offset the dampening effect on

production that is likely to be exerted by reductions in steel

inventories.

Employment in July rose about 1/2 million to reach a new

high. But the labor force rose by almost the same amount. Thus

unemployment declined only slightly.

The United States balance of payments deficit for the

second quarter of 1963 was extraordinarily bad, amounting to

about a $5 billion annual rate. The large increase in the

deficit between the first and second quarters was caused to a

considerable extent by expanded private capital outflows, a

factor which can be most readily influenced by monetary policy.

The surplus in July was greatly influenced by large debt prepayments by France and the Netherlands, by the liquidation of

window-dressing operations undertaken by U. S. banks with foreign

banks over the midyear statement date, and by the reaction in the

Caradian exchange market to the interest equalization tax proposed

by the President in mid-July. Without those favorable factors,

the July deficit would have been much less than the second

quarter deficit rate, but still above the first quarter deficit

rate. Sizable deficits have been reported for the first half of

August.

The increase in the discount rate and the increase in the

maximum permissible rates under Regulation Q have had a favorable effect on the dollar in the foreign exchange market. The

situation has been complicated a d confused, however, by the

interest equalization tax proposal.

The increase in the Canadian discount rate last week and

subsequent adjustments in Canadian money market rates have reduced, as regards Canada, the effect of our own rate increase.

Euro-dollar rates have risen about 1/4 per cent since early July.

Most European money markets have shown little change. Monetary

conditions in Europe remain tight on the whole.

Seasonal adjustment problems make it difficult to appraise

changes in total bank credit this summer. To date, however, the

measures taken to strengthen our balance of payments appear to

have had little impact on the availability of credit. While

there has been some reduction in marginal reserve availability,

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real estate and consumer loans have been rising, and the

investment by banks in municipal securities continues to be

substantial. The demand for business loans, however, remains

slack, and there is some question as to whether consumer

credit may be approaching a temporary peak or a plateau.

Corporate liquidity continues to be ample. Bank liquidity

showed little change in July.

Sensitive short-term interest rates have risen substantially. Since early June the average issuing rate on the

competitive bidding for three-month Treasury bills has risen

nearly 3/8 per cent. Secondary market rates for three-month

certificates of deposit have risen by 40 to 50 basis points.

Federal funds rates have been close to the new discount rate,

and dealer loan rates have been substantially higher. On the

other hand, long-term rates have shown virtually no change.

Money market developments since the last meeting of the

Committee have contributed to the effectiveness of the increased discount rate. For balance of payments purposes, the

System has taken the important steps of raising the discount

rate and of using open market operations to put upward pressure

on short-term interest rates. The results to date of these

steps are encouraging. I believe that it is important that

open market operations continue to be conducted so as to

contribute most effectively to an improvement in the capital

account cf our balance of payments.

Some further modest increase in short-term rates would

seem desirable. I would suggest a three-month Treasury bill

rate at 3-3/8 per cent or higher, with Federal funds selling

consistently at the discount rate. We should continue to buy

intermediate- and long-term issues to supply reserves, where

such purchases are feasible and the short-term rate situation

makes it advisable.

The Treasury plans to announce a new issue of $1 billion

one-year bills tomorrow. I understand that it is prepared to

announce an offering of a strip of about $1 billion bills

simultaneously with any announcement it may make of advance

refunding in the period ahead. Such financing in the Treasury

bill area should provide a welcome offset to the downward rate

pressures that will be exerted by the System in meeting the

heavy reserve needs ahead.

I think that the economic policy directive should be

retained in its present form in order to assure continued

progress toward a level of short-term market rates that is

clearly consistent with the recent increase in the discount

rate.

8/20/63

-2.6Mr. Shuford said that since the last Committee meeting there

had been no significant change in the trend of economic conditions in

the Eighth District.

The economic improvement,

which had been under way

since the first of the year, generally paralleled expansion on the

national level.

Employment in the District's major labor markets was up,

and industrial use of electric power was continuing the upward movement

that began early in the year. Bank deposits and business loans leveled

off in July but had shown a substantial increase since the first of the

year.

The recent advance in the national economy had been facilitated

to some degree, in Mr. Shuford's judgment, by monetary expansion during

the past year, and he believed that a continuing reasonable monetary

expansion would be desirable as a further aid to economic progress.

Steps to increase short-term rates in recent weeks appeared to have been

successful, but it seemed to him it would not be desirable, through

monetary policy, to attempt to push rates much higher than the recent

levels.

While he favored the recent increase in the discount rate, he

thought monetary policy had made, for the time being, an appropriate

contribution to the balance of payments problem.

Any further increase

in short-term rates might cause other central banks to raise their

rates, thereby offsetting the action taken here.

While the President's

recent balance of payments message to Congress with respect to actions

taken was encouraging, he continued to believe that more positive actions

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should be taken in areas other than monetary policy such as Government

expenditures abroad.

period could result in

Primary reliance on monetary policy for an extended

the postponement of fundamental corrections.

As to monetary policy for the immediate future, Mr. Shuford said

he would not attempt to hold free reserves and member bank borrowings at

any particular levels.

If the bill rate remained at recent levels, and

he believed it should--3-3/8 per cent would not be excessive--banks

might undertake to reduce borrowings and sell bills.

If, in order to

keep banks in debt, the System should limit its purchases, bank reserves

and the money supply presumably would decline.

sort of development should be avoided.

In his opinion,

this

As he saw it, the aim should be

to maintain short-term interest rates at about recent levels and, to the

extent possible,

supply the banking system with reserves sufficient to

allow the money supply to increase at about the rate of the past year-3-3/4 to 3-1/2 per cent.

In the light of current business conditions,

and with seasonal factors exerting an upward pressure on rates during

most of the remainder of the year,

such a policy of supplying reserves

would not seem likely to result in a decline in short-term rates.

Mr. Shuford went on to say that he would not favor a change in

the discount rate,

and that he would not urge any drastic change in

policy directive.

However,

the word "increase" in

the

the second line of

the first paragraph might be dropped, and the second paragraph could be

redrafted to call for open market operations to be conducted with a view

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to maintaining about the current degree of money market firmness,

rather than a slightly greater degree of firmness.

Mr. Bryan reported that statistics

for the Sixth District did

not seem to differ significantly from the national statistics.

Where

they did differ, it was largely in the field of financial items.

Changes in demand deposits, currency, and time deposits from a year

ago had gone from a plus figure to a negative figure, contrary to the

national trend.

defined.

The same thing was true of the money supply, narrowly

There had been a decline in loans, at member banks, and a

decline in loans and investments.

The unemloyment situation was

apparently better than in the nation as a whole.

Turning to policy considerations,

Mr.

Bryan noted that

in

the

last half of July there had been a growth o. 3.6 per cent from a year

ago in the money supply, which was the greatest change from year-earlier

figures since January 1962.

deposits were included.

There was an 8 per cent increase if time

When it came to reserves, total reserves since

last May showed a 6.7 per cent increase.

Required reserves showed a 6.8

per cent increase; nonborrowed reserves a 4 per cent increase.

He could

not see that, in the longer run,. the System could give effect to the

shift in policy that was decided on in May, and was signalled more

recently by the discount rate increase, without lowering substantially

the growth and availability of reserves.

In light of that belief, and

in the absence of economic reasons for retreating from the present posture

of policy, he felt that the System must begin lowering availability of

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reserves.

He was not certain how to translate that suggestion in terms

of total reserves or any other reserve figures.

If

put in

terms of

free reserves., however, he would advocate fluctuating around a central

target of zero.

Mr. Bopp reported that the Third District's participation in

national business improvement was spotty.

While recent labor force

developments had been mildly favorable, output and demand indicators

were lagging badly.

The northern an

western portions of the District

seemed to be bumping a descending ceiling of economic potential, and

their performance was not helped by concentration in certain industries,

notably the production of apparel.

Except for one week, the policy of less ease had reflected itself

in a basic reserve deficit at Third District city banks.

the Reserve Bank, however, had been light.

Borrowing from

Loan demand was still rather

weak; for the year to date, loans of weekly reporting banks had risen by

about a third less than in the same period last year.

So far the experiment that the Comittee had launched seemed to

be working, Mr.

Bopp said.

Given the decision to seek higher short-term

rates, it was gratifying that longer term rates had not risen.

And

reserve availability,

as measured by free reserves and total reserves,

had been maintained.

On the other hand, the volume of borrowing, which

might be a better clue to credit tightening at this juncture, was rising.

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added.

Despite official assurances that this was purely a technical

move, and granting that the Canadian situation was somewhat special,

still it illustrated the kind of pressures that could nullify the

balance of payments effects of higher rates here.

If other countries

in time followed suit and this country attempted to keep pace, the

upward movement in rates not only could greatly aggravate the domestic

economy but could lead to world-wide difficulties as well.

Mr. Bopp expressed the view that since short-term rates were

about at the levels previously intended, the Desk should now concentrate

on keeping the reserve supply as large as possible and borrowing as small

as possible.

If short-term rates tended to slip, he would prefer to meet

the situation by purchases of coupon issues and sales of bills, and by

Treasury action to increase the supply of short-term debt, rather than

by reducing the availability of funds.

rate at this time.

He would not change the discount

As to the current policy directive, he would urge

that it be modified along the lines suggested by Mr. Shuford to avoid the.

cumlative effect of "a slightly greater degree of firmness."

Mr.

Hickman commented that steel output had shown only minor

changes in recent weeks, both in the nation and in the Fourth District.

An estimate had been made that steel ingot output in August for the

country as a whole would aggregate 95 million ingot tons, at a seasonally

adjusted annual rate, which would represent the largest month-to-month

decline this year.

According to confidential reports received from

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several major steel producers, orders picked up more than seasonally

in July, and only slightly less than seasonally during the first

of August.

half

Reserve Bank analysts and others estimated that weekly

ingot production would not show significant improvement until the third

week in September.

Earlier, a turn had been anticipated three weeks

sooner.

Domestic new car sales declined during the first ten days of

August, largely because of a maldistribution of dealer stocks and a

shortage of popular lines.

Basic demand for new cars apparently had

continued strong, inasmuch as used car prices climbed in July, after

seasonal adjustment.

Based on preliminary estimates of domestic sales

of 550,000 units in August, production of

of 12,000 units,

160,000 units, and exports

inventories by the end of the month would probably

drop by 40 per cent, and would he below the levels of most recent good

automobile years, including 1955.

Mr. Hickman went on to say that as Mr. Noyes had indicated, the

combined weakness in autos, auto part , and iron and steel was equivalent

to a drop of about one-half of a point in the Board's production index

in July, but this was more than offset by advances in other components

equivalent to 1.4 index points.

In August, the Reserve Bank expected a

decline in the same areas of weakness equivalent to 1 to 1-1/2 index

points.

Thus, all other forms of output would have to advance as much

in August as in July for the total index to stand still.

However, it

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was now becomLng clear that, contrary to misgivings previously expressed

in many circles,

at least

the production inde

as high as in

in

the third quarter would average

the second quarter.

In the fourth quarter,

he

would expect the index to rise because of basic strength in demand for

autos and the related demand for steel.

Turning to the employment situation in the Fourth District,

Mr. Hickman reported that the increase in the seasonally adjusted rate

of insured unemployment, which was expected in the steel centers, finally

became evident in early August in various areas, including Cleveland,

Steubenville-Weirton, Lorain-Elyria, Canton, Youngstown-Warren, Pittsburgh,

and Hamilton-Middletown; other centers showed continued improvement.

The net effect of the cutback in steel in the District thus far had been

slight, and the District's insured unemployment rate continued below

that of the nation and substantially below a year ago.

With the up-

grading of the Canton labor market in July, only four of the fourteen

labor market areas in

the District remained in

the "substantial

labor

surplus" category, a proportion roughly similar to that of the rest of

the country.

So far as banking and monetary statistics were concerned, Mr.

Hickman said it appeared to him that reserve availability remained

excessive, despite a minor decline in net free reserves

and a moderate rise in member bank borrowing.

in

recent weeks

Both total reserves and

reserves available to support private deposits increased considerably

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from June to July; and actual required reserves continued above the

standard guideline.

Both the money supply and time deposits increased

smartly in July.

Mr. Hickman noted that banks had continued to acquire large

amounts of municipal securities, real estate loans, and other longerterm, less-liquid, higher-yielding assets.

The large amount of funds

flowing into longer-term municipals in recent weeks could, in his

opinion, be explained in part by expectations of a pegged structure of

rates generated by recent System operations.

Should these expectations

prove unwarranted, some Fourth District banks might be in serious difficulty.

Moreover, the System would find itself increasingly limited

in the flexibility of its operations the longer present operations were

continued.

Mr. Hickman added that he was refering specifically to operations of the Desk thus far in August.

According to his records the

System purchased intermediate and long-term Governments on August 1, 2,

5, 8, 15, and 16 and sold bills on August 7, 8, 9, 13, and 15.

The net

effect was to twist the yield curve up on the short end and down on the

long end.

The Committee's policy directive provided for a slightly

greater degree of firmness in the money market but said nothing about

an easier tone in the long-term market.

Mr. Hickman expressed the view that the Committee should continue

to press for reduced reserve availability, should instruct the staff to

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lower its guidelines, and should abandon the twist operation.

If, as

he hoped, the Desk was instructed to shift from a pegged to a free

structure of interest rates, this should either be announced publicly

or should be made clear to the market through a demonstration of the

readiness of the System to sell as well as buy long Governments in the

market.

He saw no reason to change the directive as currently worded,

provided it was adhered to.

Otherwise, he felt that the directive

should be revised to indicate that the System was engaging in a twist

operation.

Mr. Hickman also brought out that beginning in late August it

would be necessary for the System

to take care of seasonal needs.

to inject large amounts of reserves

If conducted through the open market,

this would put downward pressure on money rates, which could have an

adverse effect on the balance of payments position.

The Board of

Governors might wish to consider the alternative of a slight reduction

in reserve requirements.

Any offsetting adjustments,

if needed, could

be effected through sales of intermediate and long Governments, as well

as Treasury bills; this would reduce the pressure on gold reserves.

Mr. Mitchell commented that the business situation seemed to

have developed better this summer than he had expected.

The economy

apparently had absorbed the contractive effect of the steel inventory

adjustment.

first

About the same levels of output and activity as in the

part of the year appeared likely to continue for the balance of

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the year.

being made,

This meant, of course, that little or no contribution was

at this level of activity, toward cutting down the gap

between capacity and performance.

Many people, he observed,

believed

that the only way the gap could be narrowed was through changes in the

tax structure.

The present posture of the System was not entirely to his liking,

Mr. Mitchell said, but it

was up to the System to find out how effective

Thus far there was no evidence that it

this posture was going to be.

was damaging the domestic economy,

the balance of payments situation.

and no evidence that it

had improved

The only clear evidence was that the

Government, and perhaps some short-term borrowers, were sustaining

higher interest costs than before.

coming to any firm conclusions.

More evidence was needed before

It would be unfortunate, he added, if

there were further upward movements in foreign bank and money rates.

As to the directive, Mr.

a sensible suggestion.

Also,

Mitchell felt that Mr.

Shuford had made

he agreed with Mr. Hickman that the directive

should contain some reference to System operations in long-term securities,

if such operations were to be continued.

The Manager should not be

placed in a position where he seemed to be operating without specific

instructions from the Committee.

Mr. Shepardson commented that the outlook was encouraging to

him so far as domestic economic activity was concerned.

In his opinion,

the recent change in monetary policy was in the right direction and

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should be continued; monetary expansion

still appeared greater than

justified.

Mr. Shepardson did not think the solution to closing the gap

between performance and potential capacity was to be found in increasing

the money supply.

That was not to say that it should be curtailed or

cut back, but he questioned the rate of expansion, feeling that the

tendency had been to press more on the money supply than on other

factors.

He had been concerned for a considerable time about the lip

service given to the continuing underutilization of resourses[sic].

In the

first place, he was not sure how usable the unutilized capacity was,

either in terms of plant and equipment or labor.

There were not going

to be more jobs for unskilled labor if the main interest was in eccnomic

progress and growth.

Efforts should be made to stimulate investment in

new development rather than thinking about going back to a fuller

utilization of obsolete equipment and unskilled labor.

To obtain this,

there must be adequate profit incentives, which meant containment of

cost increases.

Fundamentally, an increase in employment was not going

to be obtained by increasing wage rates.

What was needed was a stand-

still in wage rates to allow American businesses to become more

competitive, thus increasing activity at home and improving the balance

of payments situation.

A way must be found of containing wage crawls

until a higher level of employment was attained.

More attention also

should be given to minimizing some of the disincentives to employment--

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making it too easy for folks to hunt for jobs where they knew they would

not find them.

A lot of people will resist making efforts to find

employment as long as they can get by without too much discomfort.

Many of the existing programs tended to make it possible for people

to avoid the burden of qualifying themselves for available jobs, thus

perpetuating unemployment.

Mr. Shepardson said he realized this was outside the sphere of

monetary policy.

The changes had to come elsewhere.

However, he did

not think the situation was helped by attempting to provide a cure

through monetary policy.

Monetary policy had been more than easy, and

the rate of monetary expansion should be slowed down.

On that basis,

he would favor retaining the existing directive, thus continuing to

exert some additional pressure.

It also seemed to him that whatever may

have been accomplished by the twist operation, there was a limit at some

point.

He was not at all sure but that this point had been reached.

Perhaps the Committee should now allow the whole range of interest rates

to find normal levels and relationships.

Mr. Robertson said that, as everyone knew, he had had grave

doubts about the bill-rate policy that the Committee had been following.

He doubted that it would have any important bearing from the standpoint

of the balance of payments problem, and he thought it could have an

adverse effect on the domestic economy by hampering expansion.

He

thought, also, that it would sooner or later result in an increase in

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long-term rates.

Likewise,

he felt that the tinkering operations

which the Committee was engaging would create long-run problems.

quicker they were terminated

be unwise for

to another.

the Committee

Having arrived

to flop back and

at

the position

suggest staying put and maintaining

in

to retention of the present directive,

to move into a tighter position.

with Mr.

Shuford's

position pending a

change,

At the same time,

the better.

The

would

forth from one position

of the moment,

even keel.

he would

He would not agree

which provided

He would,

it

in

however,

for continuing

accept

the directive

which looked toward maintaining an even-keel

re-evaluation

of the effects of present policy at

the next Committee meeting or thereafter.

Mr.

Mills said he continued to hold the views he had expressed

at recent Committee meetings.

noted,

There were circumstances prevailing, he

that were beyond the control

of the Federal Reserve System;

actions, or lack of appropriate actions, in the fiscal area of the

Government's responsibilities had shifted the burden of combatting the

balance of payments problem onto the Federal Reserve.

That being the

case, he believed the System was committed to carrying on the policy

now in effect, with the full knowledge that

and economically undesirable.

it was replete with risks

As to the technical side of operations,

he believed the Committee's only choice was to make effective the

policy that

had been chosen by the Committee.

But if that was the

course decided upon, it was probable that the supply of reserves would

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be contracted.

Along with the contraction, it was reasonable to

anticipate that the level of required reserves would shrink, and at

the same time that excess reserves and free reserves would rise.

If

free reserves did rise, that would, of course, place a softening effect

on bill rates; this was a development that would have to be accepted.

If an increase of free reserves due to a reduction of required reserves

was taken as a signal to absorb reserves, that would compound the

pressure on the supply of reserves and the availability of credit

severely and unnecessarily.

He had complete sympathy with Mr. Hickman's

desire to break loose from the pegging operation being followed in the

conduct of the System Open Market Account.

In bygone days, Senator

John Sherman of Ohio, when it came time to consider the resumption of

specie payment and there was great concern that the resumption would be

disruptive to the economy, said "the

time to resume is to resume."

At a

more appropriate time that might be an example to follow with respect to

discontinuing the pegging operation.

Mr. Wayne reported that business activity in the Fifth District

remained generally at a high level and had changed very little in the

past three weeks.

Current strength was particularly apparent in bituminous

coal, where production and shipments in recent months had been the largest

since 1957 with the outlook favoring further gains, and in construction,

where contract awards for the first half-year reached a new high in spite

of a sharp decline in June.

No significant signs of weakening were

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currently visible in any of the principal manufacturing industries.

Furniture makers had a year and a half of prosperity behind them and

expected a better second half this year than last.

Textilemen reported

that order backlogs for large-volume gray goods were now in generally

satisfactory condition for the rest of this year.

Cigarette manufacturers

continued to meet a gradually rising demand despite the growing volume

of adverse publicity.

cause.

Only the farmers were complaining, and with good

The extended drought had dried up pastures, forcing some to sell

their herds, and the outlook had deteriorated for many crops.

According to the Reserve Bank's latest survey, business sentiment

was more diverse now, and on balance a little less optimistic, despite

indications of more confidence among the reporting bankers.

Respondents

in the manufacturing sector reported business about the same, but the

flow of new orders had slowed a little.

The survey also showed, w;.th

some support from other sources, that recent good levels of retail trade

were being maintained or improved.

Turning to national business

conditions, Mr. Wayne observed that

business activity was apparently continuing to move ahead, but that

dicators of future activity seemed to be mixed and indecisive.

During

the first half of this year the economy performed better than most

authorities had predicted.

in-

The pattern of changes was much the same

as prevailed in the first half of 1962, but the gains were smaller

everywhere except in the industrial area, where they were distinctly

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larger.. In recent weeks the economy had shown considerable strength

in maintaining momentum despite the ,harp cutback in steel, the tense

international financial situation, domestic racial disturbances, and

uncertainties about fiscal policy.

Somewhat larger backlogs of

manufacturers' unfilled orders and accumulated construction contracts

had contributed extra strength this year.

It might be that these and

other elements inherent in the present situation would be sufficient

to insure a second-half performance better than the unimpressive record

of the last half of 1962, but it was too early to be sure.

At the

moment, Mr. Wayne saw no obvious reason to expect that there would be

any significent change in the period immediately ahead.

In the policy area, Mr. Wayne commented that the money market

had about completed its transition, and the structure of short-term

rates was now approximately in line with the new discount rate.

The bill

rate had lagged somewhat in making the adjustment because of a strong

demand for bills.

Thus far the rate adjustments were about the only

important domestic reactions to the change in the discount rate.

Internaionally, there were significant

increases

in

the rates on the

Euro-dollar and in short-term rates in Canada, but covered spreads had

changed little.

Mr. Wayne went on to say that with the rate structure in adjustment at the new and higher level, the pertinent question was whether

the structure should be raised or lowered.

The domestic situation

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certainly did not suggest a need for further tightening.

If

the

Committee was, in the words of its present directive, "to accommodate

moderate growth in bank credit," as he thought it should, free reserves

should not be allowed to drop any lower at present.

of reserves that could actually be mobilized,

In

fact,

any further rise in

terms

there probably had not

been any real free reserves for the past month or more.

national front,

in

On the inter-

rates here would probably stimulate

increases in market rates abroad and might encourage or even force

official actson to raise rates.

Mr. Wayne felt, also,

that it

was

appropriate, if not essential, to watch developments on the interest

equalization tax proposal and any results that might occur.

Consequently,

he favored a policy of maintaining about the present degree of firmness

in the money market, which he interpreted to mean a structure of shortterm rates approximately the same as had prevailed in

the past few days,

this to be accomplished, if possible, with a level of free reserves

fluctuating in

the area of $100 million.

An appropriate change in

the

second paragraph of the current dire, tive would be needed to implement

this policy, and he agreed with the change suggested by Mr. Shuford.

Mr. Clay commented that the Federal Reserve System had made its

major monetary policy move five weeks ago when it increased the discount

rate, and since that time the Committee had been engaged in operations

to coordinate open market policy with the discount rate action.

The job

had been complicated by the twin goals of higher short-term rates and

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continued reserve availability.

Any effort to move the short-term open

market rates still higher presumably could be accomplished only by reducing reserve availability and bank credit expansion and probably putting

upward pressure on longer term rates.

It would appear well to avoid

such action at this time, both in consideration of domestic economic

needs and in order to provide time for money and credit markets to adjust

to the policy moves already made.

Evidence concerning the performance of the domestic economy in

the early part of the third quarter was rather encouraging, but the

basic problems of the domestic economy continued essentially unchanged.

Moreover,

the task faced by public policy on that front also remained

essentially tnchanged as one of encouraging economic expansion.

It

would be well to keep in mind that what was a rather good performance

of the domestic economy as to the degree of expansion during this

business upswing, despite problems of underutilization of resources,

occurred under a monetary policy that

need for further economic expansion

accomplishing

it

had been comparatively easy.

and the resource availability

constituted a serious argument against a reduction

The

for

in

the

rate of credit growth.

Mr.

Clay expressed the view that it also would be in order to

allow more time for the money and capital markets to adjust to the

recent monetary policy changes and to afford the System added opportunity

to observe the subsequent developments in international

financial indicators.

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There would appear to be merit in the idea of affording more time for

international financial indicators, particularly relative interest rates

to adjust to t.he policy changes already made, thus giving the System

greater opportunity to observe the resulting developments.

So far as giving evidence of making the discount rate effective

was concerned, Mr. Clay saw nothing incompatible between the half point

increase in the discount rate and the accompanying increase that had

taken place in short-term open-market rates, nor was there any inconsistency between a 3-1/2 per cent discount rate and the current level

of short-term market rates.

The increase in open market rates must be

measured beginning with the anticipatory movement preceding the discount

rate change and not with the date of the discount rate change itself.

Mr. Clay felt that for the time being monetary policy should

continue its recent posture, with no change in the Committee's goals on

short-term rates and reserve availability.

The Account Manager should

stand ready to purchase longer-maturity issues to facilitate the Committee's

goals, as well

as to undertake offset'ing sales of Treasury bills and

purchases of longer-maturity issues.

The directive, he thought, could

remain unchanged except for a modification in the second paragraph to

avoid additional tightness in the money market.

The wording suggested

by Mr. Shuford would be agreeable to him.

Mr. Clay concluded his remarks by saying that the fundamental

question before the Committee continued to be the same as it had been

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for a long while, namely, not only what could be accomplished for the

international balance of payments problem through monetary policy but

also whether any substantial impact could be had on the international

flow of funds through monetary policy without moving domestic interest

rates to levels that would involve serious monetary restraint on economic

activity.

Mr. Scanlon reported that business prospects continued favorable

in the Seventh District.

The stronger trend evident in retail sales in

June appearec to have been about maintained in July and early August.

The most promising recent development, other than the apparent uptrend

in retail trade, was the surprising strength of construction.

Man-

ufacturing continued to lead, but recent months had witnessed a marked

improvement in housing starts in the District, especially in Milwaukee

and Detroit.

The increase in bank credit for June and July as a whole at

Seventh District banks was about the same as a year ago, and the net

expansion over the past six months matched the national experience-roughly 3-1/2 per cent.

Consumer loans appeared to have been quite

strong recently, and District banks had also continued to increase real

estate loans fairly rapidly.

Business use of bank credit did not appear

to be increasing, but the net decline in outstanding business loans over

the past two months was about the same as for the past several years.

The normal seasonal influences had been dominant, but with a sharper

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than usual increase in borrowing by commodity dealers and somewhat

greater than normal declines in loans to manufacturing and retailing

firms.

With the tighter credit conditions that had prevailed recently,

the major Chicago banks had been borrowing more both in the Federal funds

market and at the discount window.

In addition, they had reduced their

holdings of U. S. Government securities by about $150 million since midJuly.

Chicago banks did not appear to be bidding actively for corporate

funds through. issuing short-term certificates of deposits.

As to policy, Mr. Scanlon recalled that his preference at the

last Committee meeting had been to wait for the dust to settle before

making further moves, but this was merely a matter of timing.

Since

there was now a slightly greater degree of firmness in the money market,

he would remain there.

He believed there was room under an even-keel

policy to attain the 3-3/8 per cent bill rate the majority favored at

the last meeting.

for operations

Therefore, he would change the directive to provide

to be conducted with a view to maintaining the same

degree of firmness in the money market as at present.

He would not

change the discount rate.

Mr. Deming stated that in the first half of 1963 the Ninth

District economic record compared quite favorably with that of the nation.

Perhaps the best summary statistic to indicate this conclusion was

personal income, which for the District in June was running 7 per cent

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ahead of a year earlier, as compared with a 5 per cent gain for the

United States.

Farm income had been quite favorable this year, and this

fact accounted for most of the difference between District and nation,

although manufacturing activity in the District also had run relatively

better.

AvaiLable data for July pointed both ways.

Industrial power

use was up sharply from June, according to preliminary figures, while

employment failed to show as much gain as would be normal.

The Employment

Service people, incidentally, were not optimistic about the short-run

employment outlook.

Debits were up strongly in July.

The farm outlook

was quite good, with an excellent crop outturn now virtually assured.

It would be a bit smaller than last year's record volume, but well above

average.

After a strong first half, particularly at country banks, bank

loan demand in July was about in keeping with normal seasonal behavior.

Fragmentary data for city banks in August pointed to some recent weakening in

loans.

Investment behavior at District banks, like those in the

nation, was influenced in June and July by the timing of Treasury finane

ing.

So far in

normal.

Total

August,

growth in

investments looked a little better than

deposits fell contraseasonally in July, but this reflected

almost entirely a decline in Government deposits that took funds out of

the District.

City banks had registered some seasonal deposit gains in

the past two weeks.

Both bank borrowing from the Reserve Bank and Federal funds

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purchases increased significantly in Late July and early August, but

had subsided in the past week or so.

The effect of the Comptroller's

new ruling on Federal funds transactions on Ninth District banks was

not yet clear.

It might lead to less frequent use of the discount

window by the larger banks than would otherwise be the case under

similar conditions of reserve availability.

The national economic situation, Mr. Deming noted, evidently

was gaining unexpected strength, and business and consumer confidence

seemed to be growing.

feeling.

The stock market apparently was mirroring this

Whatever the effect on the payments balance of the somewhat

snugger money market conditions, they did not seem to have had any

adverse effect on the domestic economy so far.

Should the present

economic trend continue and be augmented by seasonal factors, it would

make the task of credit policy implementation somewhat easier--assuming

that the Committee would want to continue its emphasis on competitive

short-term interest rates.

At the same time, he thought the Committee

was going to have to put more emphasis on reserve availability in order

to have more impact on capital flows abroad, particularly those from

banks.

This, of course, also could come more from market forces than

from overt credit policy action.

For the moment, however, he would be

content to stay "about where we are" in terms of money market conditions,

free reserves, and short-term rates, although he would not resist a

further modest upward movement in such rates should the market itself

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supply the force to achieve the higher rates.

directive,

As to the policy

the only change that seemed necessary would be to amend

the second paragraph to call for operations with a view to maintaining

the present degree of money market firmness.

Mr. Swan said the available data for July, and more complete

data for June, revealed the lack of vigor characteristic of important

sectors of the Twelfth District economy in recent months.

Unemployment

rates rose rather substantially in July in California and Washington.

In California this was primarily the result of an increase in the labor

force.

In Washington this was a contributing factor, but there was also

a less than seasonal gain in employment it agriculture, along with

declines in Government and aircraft employment.

In June, Arizona was

the only District State to report a Lower rate of unemployment that in

March.

Also, District department store sales probably registered a

decline for the second month in a row in July; however, sales remained

slightly above a year ago.

New car registrations in California, where

sales had been strong in the first half of the year, were down about

9 per cent for the first 18 days of July from a year earlier, compared

with the year period gain in sales in July for the country as a whole.

Construction awards in the District varied widely from month to month

but showed a sharp net increase in the District for the first half of

the year.

Rental vacancies, however, rose sharply in the second quarter.

With some resumption of lumber production already under way, and the

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end of the strike expected by mid-August,

to soften considerably.

lumber prices were expected

Canadian lumber production had increased to

take advantage, of the strike, and additional supplies from that source

were still coming into U. S. markets.

For the three weeks ended August 7, Twelfth District weekly

reporting banks reduced their investments considerably more than they

expanded their loans.

Thus, reserve positions were easier than in the

preceding three weeks, and net sales of Federal funds were at high

levels.

For the week ended August 14, borrowings from the Reserve Bank

were quite low.

Despite continuing improvement in the business picture nationally,

Mr. Swan was not convinced that the domestic situation, taken by itself,

warranted the present degree of lesser ease.

The action had been taken,

however, and this was not a time to retreat from the current position.

But with the bill rate currently close to 3-3/8 per cent, the present

degree of firmness should not be increased.

The Committee also should

await the market and public reaction to the Treasury financing plans

shortly to be announced, as well as some clearer indication of the fate

of the tax reduction legislation.

Mr. Swan said his suggestion for changes in the directive

corresponded with those mentioned by Mr. Shuford.

He added that the

System soon would be faced with the problem of supplying additional

reserves for seasonal expansion.

He was quite interested in the comments

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of Mr. Brill and Mr. Hickman in this regard.

The problem of the

magnitude of these reserves, the extent to which the System would be

reluctant to supply them, the form the supplying of reserves would take

as between security purchases and a reduction in reserve requirements-all these things presumably would have a considerable effect on the

range of action likely to be open to the Committee in terms of general

open market policy.

At the moment, he would agree with Mr. Hickmar

that there would seem to be a case for a slight reduction in reserve

requirements.

Mr. Irons said that Eleventh District business conditions were

generally at a high level.

Most of the changes taking place were about

in line with what might be expected on a seasonal basis.

There were

uncertainties in some areas, such as agriculture and probably retail

trade, although the latter had improved recently.

On the banking side,

there was no evidence of strain or excesses one way or the other.

were up moderately;

time and savings deposits continued strong;

ments were down as the banks disposed of bills and certificates.

Loans

investSome

impact of the Comptroller's new ruling on Federal funds might be appearing;

the few District banks that were active buyers of Federal funds had been

stepping up their purchases.

There had been no appreciable use of the

discount window; borrowings were running about $9 million on a weekly

average.

On the matter of the directive and policy for the next three

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weeks, Mr. Irons indicated he would lean toward maintaining the present

directive, which would permit attaining a slightly greater degree of

firmness in

the money market.

During the past three weeks the Desk

had performed well and had moved in the direction of achieving the

objectives indicated by the Committee.

Whether by Desk or market action,

the short-term rate had moved up some 10 basis points or more, while

long-term rates were quite stable.

'Unquestionablythe market had been

firmer, but be was not aware of any evidence of undue tightness.

Therefore, he would continue to seek a slightly greater degree of market

firmness, although not aggressively.

In other words, if market factors

and developments were such as to make for a slightly firmer market, he

would not object.

If the bill rate went to 3-3/8 per cent, other short-

term rates went up a bit, and Federal funds

traded consistently at 3-1/2

per cent, he would consider that a mcve in the right direction.

He

would be inclined to continue operations in the intermediate and longer

term areas whenever such operations were appropriate for System purposes.

He did not know whether the assignment the System seemed to have in-

herited could be accomplished, but he would not be prepared to say--at

least for the time being--that it could not be done; he would like to

see a little further experimentation.

To put it another way, he would

not favor abandoning the twist operation if it seemed feasible to continue

for a while.

Sooner or later, a point might be reached where free re-

serves would have to be pushed lower, perhaps into negative free reserves.

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However, he did not believe that that point had yet been reached, and

for the next three weeks he would think in terms of free reserves somewhere around $100 million or a little lower.

Mr. Irons reiterated that he would accept the existing policy

directive for the next three weeks.

If the directive were changed to

call for maintaining the present degree of firmness, that would seem

to impose on the Desk a responsibility to maintain only the present

degree of firmness even though the short-term rate might tend upward

because of Treasury operations or for other reasons.

Mr. Latham said that with the. exception of employment, the

New England economy appeared to be holding up well.

Employment trends

continued to show up less favorably than those for the country as a

whole. Nonagricultural employment, seasonally adjusted, declined in

June for the fifth consecutive month,

The 12-month net change, as of

June, was an increase of only 1/10 of 1 per cent.

Manufacturing em-

ployment declined further in June, with a 12-month net decrease of 1.5

per cent.

The estimated unemployment rate, seasonally adjusted, rose

from 5.2 per cent in May to 5.7 per cent in June.

An important factor in the lack of vigor in New England employment trends had been the relative weakness of the electrical machinery

industry, and more particularly the important electronics component.

A 7,200 drop in employment in the electrical machinery industry for the

12 months ended June 30 compared with a decrease of 9,000 jobs for all

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durable goods manufacturing industries and constituted about one-third

of the 21,000 loss in jobs for all manufacturing.

industry in New England,

The electronics

after experiencing a period of rapid growth,

had apparently been going through a shakedown period, although most of

the job loss appeared to be in

the larger companies.

Consumer spending continued at a good pace, as reflected by

department store sales, registrations of new automobiles, and resort

area business occasioned by excellent vacation weather.

Construction was a strong factor in the New England economy.

In June, nonresidential building contracts were up 69 per cent from a

year earlier; residential building contracts were up 24 per cent.

Deposits in mutual savings banks and share accounts in insured

savings and loan associations continued to grow at a good pace, although

the savings deposit increase at commercial banks slowed during the month

of

July.

Business loans at commercial banks had continued stronger than

seasonal since June.

Through August 14, First District banks completed

their fifth consecutive week as net purchasers of Federal funds.

It was

interesting to note that with the relative tightness that occurred on

August 7, because of the temporary maldistribution of reserves, borrowing

at the discount window was the heaviest for a single day since 1921.

In conclusion, Mr. Latham noted that District bankers generally

voiced accord with System monetary policy.

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Sherpardson that it was a delusion to talk about the utilization of

capacity, human and otherwise, that was not competitive in present

markets.

He went on to say that his reaction to the small impact ob-

servable thus far from the System's discount rate action was satisfactory.

The covered rate differential between the United States and Canada and

London had disappeared.

give him concern.

However, the Euro-dollar market continued to

It appeared to him to be a threat to the financial

stability of Europe, and in the end he felt it might have a serious

impact upon the U. S. domestic economy by draining off short-term funds

in a manner that seemed to be beyond the control of central banks.

It

seemed important that the flow of dollar deposits into this pool be

diminished, and he feared there was a gap in

the interest equalization

tax proposal for inhibiting the outflow of capital.

The banks were not

covered, and they were seeking opportunities to put funds abroad.

As to the domestic scene, the money supply had risen since the

first of the year at an annual rate of 3-1/2 per cent, with turnover

5 per cent above a year ago and bank credit still rising rapidly.

True,

since the first of the year total bank loans and investments had gone up

only 7 per cent, annual rate, compared with 8 per cent in the year 1962.

The ratio of public liquid asset holdings to GNP in the second quarter

was 2 percentage points higher than a year ago.

From February 1961 to

date, total bank reserves had risen by 7.5 per cent.

In the face of all

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this, he was quite content that nonborrowed reserves had remained

constant since the beginning of the year.

banks to increase their borrowings,

This was now leading member

a development that it

seemed

to him

the System might have to live with through the fall period.

A point that intrigued him, though probably irrelevant to the

formulation of a monetary policy decision, was the impact of the changing

mix of demand and time deposits on the expansion potential of bank reserves.

In June of last year the ratio of time to total deposits subject

to reserve requirements was 4.13; this June it

was 4.48.

As a result,

the amount of deposits supported by $100 million of reserves--with a

time deposit reserve requirement of 4 per cent--was $970 a year ago,

and $1,003 now.

The increase was 3.4 per cent over a year ago, and

9 per cent over June 1960.

During the next three weeks, Mr. Balderston said, he would maintain the prevailing firmness in

its

scheduled refunding.

the money market to aid the Treasury with

The second paragraph of the directive might be

modified to substitute wording in the third

the prevailing degree of firmness."

If

line

such as:

"maintaining

there was to be a veering of

policy in either direction, he would veer in

the direction of firmness,

but he felt that any significant change might well be considered a little

later.

Chairman Martin commented that, as to policy for the period ahead,

the Committee members appeared to be closer together than for some time,

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although perhaps for varied reasons.

He could not help but say, the

Chairman added, that in his judgment both the domestic economy and the

balance of payments had benefited from the present posture of System

policy, although that might take a couple of months to demonstrate.

In view of the general sentiment concerning the domestic economy and

apprehensions in the European market, he felt there might be possibilities

of increased investment in the United States.

There were the makings of

a change, even though it might take come time to develop.

The interest

equalization tax proposal had been received badly by the market, it.

having been construed rather generally as a first step toward exchange

controls, but he believed the sentiment might now be shifting in favor

of the Treasury's position.

It was his impression that the proposal

might get a better reception in

the Congress than had seemed likely

earlier.

The Chairman continued to feel that

the balance of payments

problem was the greatest single shadow over the domestic economic

picture.

He believed the posture of the System placed it in a fairly

good middle ground, and he questioned whether any further lessening of

ease at this point would actually be of benefit.

Instead, he was

inclined to feel that maintenance of the status quo probably was called

for at the moment.

As Mr. Balderston and others had pointed out, the

Treasury was going to come into the market during the next few weeks.

Whether the Treasury would decide on an advance refunding, he did not

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know; that was going to involve a rather difficult decision for the

Treasury.

In any event, however, it should be borne in mind that for

a long period Treasury debt management policy had been-not only supplementary but complementary to Federal Reserve monetary policy.

This was

a period when it would seem well to let the Treasury feel its way along,

without additional complications, on whatever debt management decisions

it might make.

Chairman Martin said that although he remained rather skeptical

about the so-called twist operation, he did not believe in changing

horses in the middle of the stream.

The benefit of the doubt, he

thought, should be given to the operation because it was directed toward

helping the

alance of payments problem as much as possible and with a

minimum of drag on the domestic economy.

The Chairman added that he thought the Desk had performed well

in

the past period.

Certain market participants with whom he had talked

had been impressed, despite their preconceptions,

the Desk.

It seemed to him that, as

with the activities of

he had said, it would be well to

give the twist operation the benefit of the doubt and pursue it somewhat

further.

The Chairman also said that he would like to make a comment

about the word "peg," which was being used rather freely.

He still

thought of a peg in the sense of standing ready to purchase securities

any time the price reached a certain level.

While he believed in a

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free market, he did not delude himself into thinking that System

activities were not bound to influence the market, although Federal

Reserve operations should be of a residual or marginal character.

Chairman Martin concluded by saying that since the Treasury was

facing a difficult period and since there appeared to have been some

element of success in what the System had done thus far,

to him advisable to continue the status quo.

it

would seem

The outcome was not clear

but the System would benefit in the sense that the whole world would

realize that the balance of payments problem was being tackled.

If the

current program did not work, presumably other operations would be

instituted.

For all of these reasons, he would favor maintaining the

status quo for the time being.

The Chairman then proposed that the question of policy for the

period immediately ahead be considered by the Committee on the basis

of continuing the first paragraph of the policy directive without change

and changing the second paragraph to read that open market operations

should be conducted with a view to maintaining the prevailing degree of

firmness in the money market, while accomodating moderate expansion in

aggregate bank reserves.

Thereupon, upon moticn duly made and

seconded, the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee, to

execute transactions in the System Account

in accordance with the following current

economic policy directive:

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It is the Committee's current policy to accommodate

moderate growth in bank credit, while putting increased

emphasis on money market conditions that would contribute

to an improvement in the capital account of the U. S.

balance of payments. This policy takes into consideration

the continuing adverse balance of payments position and its

cumulative effects and the high level of domestic business

activity, as well as the increases in bank credit, money

supply, and the reserve base in recent months. At the same

time, however, it recognizes the continuing underutilization

of resources.

To implement this policy, System open market operations

shall be conducted with a view to maintaining the prevailing

degree of firmness in the money market, while accommodating

moderate expansion in aggregate bank reserves.

Votes for this action:

Messrs. Martin,

Balderston, Bopp, Clay, Irons, Mills, Mitchell,

Robertson, Scanlon, Shepardson, and Treiber.

Votes against this action:

none.

In a comment with respect to his vote, Mr. Treiber said he would

understand that if the issuance by the Treasury of additional bills should

result in an increase in the short-term rate of some modest.amount, that

would not be inconsistent with the directive.

It

was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday,

September 10,

1963.

The meeting then adjourned.

Assistant Secretary

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1963, August 19). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19630820
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19630820,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1963},
  month = {Aug},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19630820},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}