fomc minutes · October 21, 1963

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington on Tuesday, October 22,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

1963, at 9:30 a.m.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Balderston

Bopp

Clay

Mills

Mitchell

Robertson

Scanlon

Shepardson

Shuford, Alternate for Mr. Irons

Messrs. Hickman, Wayne, and Swan, Alternate Members

of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Ellis, Bryan, and Deming, Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, Atlanta, and

Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Young, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel

Messrs. Baughman, Eastburn, Furth, Green, Holland,

Koch, and Tow, Associate Economists

Mr. Stone, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open Market

Account

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of Governors

Broida, Assistant Secretary, Board of Governors

Williams, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Yager, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics, Board

of Governors

Miss Eaton, Secretary, Office of the Secretary,

Board of Governors

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Mr. Coldwell, First Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of Dallas

Mr. Rouse, Vice President and Senior Adviser,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Messrs. Holmes, Mann, Black, and Jones, Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks of

New York, Clevelard, Richmond, and St. Louis,

respectively

Messrs. Brandt and Litterer, Assistant Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks cf

Atlanta and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Anderson, Financial Economist, Federal Reserve

Bank of Boston

Mr. Meek, Manager, Securities Department, Federal

Reserve Bank of New York

Upon motion duly made and seconded, and

by unanimous vote, the minutes of the meeting

of the Federal Open Market Committee held on

September 10, 1963, were approved.

Upon motion duly made and seconded, and

by unanimous vote, the action of the members

of the Federal Open Market Committee taken on

October 8, 1963, authorizing extension of the

period of the standby reciprocal currency

arrangement with the Bank of Italy to six months

from three months but not affecting the term

of any drawing by either party was approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the Committee

a report from the Special Manager of the System Open Market Account on

foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market Account and

Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the period October 1

through October 16, 1963, together with a supplementary report covering

the period October 17 through October 21, 1963.

have been placed in the files of the Committee.

Copies of these reports

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Supplementing the written reports, Mr. Coombs commented that

the Treasury gold stock would remain unchanged this week for the tenth

week in a row.

After deducting gold orders

on hand, the Stabilization

Fund had $64 million available and this might be further increased by

a prospective distribution by the Gold Pool at the end of this month.

On the London market, there had been no significant sign of

dishoarding as yet, Mr. Coombs said, with private buying remaining on

a moderate scale.

Sales of Russian gold, of which $200 million were

acquired by the Pool during September, had continued, and the Pool had

acquired another $100 million from the same source during the first

half of October.

So far this year, Russian gold sales had come to $400

million, as compared with annual totals in earlier years of $200 to $25C

million.

Since the Russian wheat purchase program might increase their

dollar exchange needs by $750 million or more above normal, they might

be forced to sell gold in sizable volume during coming months.

Mr. Coombs observed that the preliminary September figures

showing a deficit of $180 million in the U. S. balance of payments

were encouraging and seemed to reflect sharp declines in outflows of

both long- and short-term capital.

While Canada continued to attract

some short-term money, he had the impression that capital outflows to

other parts of the world had subsided considerably.

New York banks

now seemed to be moving to a rate of 3-7/8 per cent on 90-day money

and thus were getting into a better competitive position with the Eurodollar rate of 4-1/8 per cent.

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Despite the apparent improvement in the U. S. balance of

payments, Mr. Coombs said, exchange markets had been subject to a

number of disturbing influences, mainly because of flows of European

funds from one money market to another.

Perhaps the most serious problem

arose out of the speculative flow from the lira through the dollar into

the Swiss franc.

In Italy, the present caretaker government had been

unable so far to deal decisively with a serious inflationary situation.

The Bank

of Italy had finally made a firm request of the Italian com-

mercial banks to refrain from further borrowing in the Euro-dollar

market.

For the past year such borrowing had disguised severe deteriora-

tion in the Italian balance of payments.

Bank of Italy

It now seemed likely that the

soon would be forced to show heavy reserve losses,

with

considerable risk that this would further aggravate speculative pressures.

In an effort

to cushion somewhat the Italian reserve declines, the U. S.

Treasury had stepped up its program of acquiring lira balances against

its outstanding lira bond indebtedness of $200 million, and by the end

of the month these purchases would probably amount to $67 million.

Mr. Coombs thought it likely that the Bank of Italy would want

to draw on its reciprocal swap arrangement with the Federal Reserve

within a month or so.

If correction of the Italian deficit in fact

should take longer than the short maturities appropriate to swap drawings,

the Bank of Italy would probably move to pay off any drawings under the

swap line by recourse to the International Monetary Fund for longer

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term credit.

At the moment Italy had a sizable creditor position

with the Fund and also was negotiating a substantial increase in its

Fund quota.

There seemed to be a reasonable chance that the increase

would be approved before the year end.

Unfortunately, Mr. Coombs continued, as banker to the world

financial system the U. S. was involved not only in the Italian deficit

but also in its counterpart, the heavy flow of short-term funds from

Italy to Switzerland.

Last week the Swiss National Bank had to make

further sizable purchases of dollars to keep the dollar from going

through the floor at 4.3150.

To mop up these surplus dollars, the

Account had to exhaust the $100 million swap line with the Bank for

International

Settlements by a further drawing of $20 million, and on

the day preceding this meeting the Account had drawn $30 million under

the $100 million swap line with the Swiss National Bank.

Consequently,

there remained only $70 million under the swap line with the Swiss

National Bank to deal with possible heavy further flows of dollars to

Switzerland before the year end, including forward Treasury contracts

of $110 million maturing in that period.

He had discussed the situation

last week in Basle with representatives of the Swiss National Bank, Mr.

Coombs said, and had secured a tentative agreement

from that Bank to

take on an additional $70 million in Swiss franc bond issues by the

U. S. Treasury.

He thought the Swiss National Bank would also do its

best to help out around the year end by executing swaps with Swiss

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commercial barks to take care of year-end inflows for "window-dressing"

purposes.

But unless the Italian authorities take drastic action to

restrain the outflow of funds from Italy, the Account might have to

draw heavily on its remaining credit source, the unused $70 million

of the swap line with the Swiss National Bank.

And in the background

was the specter of real trouble on the British side; uncertainties

associated with anticipated British elections could result in still

further flows to Switzerland.

Therefore, it might become desirable

to increase still further the System's swap lines with the BIS and

Swiss National Bank.

Mr. Coombs said that the System was faced with another troublesome problem in the Netherlands.

In late September it had been

necessary to draw on the full swap line of $100 million with the

Netherlands Bank, and the U. S. Treasury had put out $39 million ir

one-month guilder forward contracts, to deal with a sizable repatriation

of funds by Dutch commercial banks.

The main reason for that inflcw

was rumors of a re-evaluation of the guilder.

These rumors had since

been officially denied, but a new type of speculative situation had

arisen.

Dutch commercial banks now expected a severe tightening of

credit to deal with the inflationary consequences of an expected wage

increase of 8 to 10 per cent.

Consequently, the Dutch banks were trying

to stay liquid, and so far it had been possible to cover only $13 million

of the Treasury's $39 million in one-month forward contracts.

It was

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paradoxical, Mr. Coombs observed, that a prospective 8 to 10 per cent

wage increase should result in a strengthening rather than a weakening

of the currency of the country involved.

It seemed reasonably likely,

however, that the prospective deterioration in the Dutch competitive

position would in due course tend to weaken the guilder.

But if such

a reversal was unduly delayed by restrictive credit policy, it might

be necessary to consider funding our swap drawing through a U. S.

Treasury issue of guilder bonds to the Netherlands Bank.

While the

Dutch authorities so far had resisted taking in such bonds, at the

last BIS meeting they seemed prepared to consider this possibility

more favorably.

In the discussion that followed, Mr. Mills inquired about the

nature of the allocation of increments to the stock of gold in the

London Gold Pool, and the reasons for the reallocations to other

countries of parts of the U. S. share that he understood the Treasury

recently had made.

Mr. Coombs noted, in replying, that the United

States normally received 50 per cent of any allocation by the Pool

On the occasion of one allocation, last spring, the Treasury had

retained half of its share and reallocated the other half to the German

Federal Bank and the Bank of Italy.

In another allocation near the

end of September, $10 million of the U

S. share of $85 million had been

reallocated to the German Bank and $10 million to the Italian Bank.

In the middle of October, $10 million of a $40 million U. S. allocation

had been reallocated to the German Bank.

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Mr. Coombs observed that the motive for these reallocations

was not simply generosity.

Both Germany and Italy, he observed, had

rarely bought gold from the United States, but rather had relied on

the London market.

Thus, when they joined the Pool they were deprived

of a source of gold, and in the absence of occasional reallocations

both the German Federal Bank and the Bank of Italy would have come

under pressure to supplement their gold stocks by purchases from the

United States.

On balance, Mr. Coombs believed, the U. S. had saved

rather than lost gold by the procedure that had been followed.

Mr. Mills then asked whether the public reaction to the

announcement of the increase in the Italian swap line to $250 million

was favorable or perverse in the sense that

of funds from Italy.

it provoked further outflows

Mr. Coombs replied that, insofar as he could

judge, there had been little or no reaction of any sort; he thought

matters were now at a stage where the swap network was taken for granted

and occasional increases in the size of particular lines were viewed

as routine changes.

Had there been a reaction, he would have expected

it to be favorable.

In a further question, Mr. Mills asked about the ultimate

employment of the funds that had been moving from Italy to Switzerland,

and, in particular, whether the funds were being held in Swiss francs.

Mr. Coombs replied that no one really knew the answer to this question,

but there was reason to believe that some of the funds remained in

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Switzerland and some were reinvested in Italian securities under

Swiss names.

In response to another question by Mr. Mills, Mr. Coombs

commented that the earlier "gentlemen's agreement" between the Swiss

Government and Swiss commercial banks limiting the extent to which the

latter acquired foreign currencies had recently been abandoned, because

the many loopholes in the agreement served to penalize the larger

commercial banks.

Mr. Mills asked whether the situation with which

the agreement had been intended to deal had recently become increasingly

serious, and whether it had not been aggravated by the fact that the

U. S. was now "picking up the check" under its currency operations.

Mr. Coombs replied that problems of this type were unavoidable for any

nation, such as the United States or the Urited Kingdom, that was cast

in the role of banker to the world.

He thought in the absence of the

swap network the United States would have lost about $400 million in gold

to Switzerland and the Netherlands in the past two months.

More

generally, he felt that the whole international payments system had

been held together by these swap arrangements and by the so-called

Roosa bonds; had they not been developed the system might well have

broken down completely by now.

In response to a question by Mr. Mitchell as to why the Swiss

authorities did not finance the Italian deficit directly without

involving the dollar in such a way as to bring it under pressure in

Switzerland, Mr. Coombs reported that on one occasion in the past the

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Swiss had acted in this manner for a perioc of two or three months

with respect to the British pound but that they were disinclined to

do so at. present with respect to the lira on the grounds that the flows

involved were large, and they needed to save their ammunition.

Never-

theless, he felt the Swiss were moving gradually towards accepting their

responsibilities to the international payments system.

Mr. Mitchell

commented that while he was not interposing an objection to the potential

Italian drawing under the newly expanded swap line, he thought the record

should show what had been happening in the Italian economy recently.

He

noted that in the past year there had been a 25 per cent increase in

commercial bank credit; an 18 per cent expansion in the money supply;

a 30 per cent rise in imports; a 17 per cert increase in hourly wage

rates in manufacturing; increases of 6.6 per cent and 5 per cent,

respectively, in the consumer and wholesale price indexes; and along

with all this, an increase of less than 10 per cent in industrial

production.

nevertheless,

In his view, inflation had a very strong hold in Italy;

the System was about to extend them a substantial amount

of credit with no strings attached.

In reply, Mr. Coombs observed that

the essential fact was that the credit being extended was short-term.

If the Italians required long-term credit, as he thought they eventually

might, they would have to borrow from the International Monetary Fund.

In reply to a question by Mr. Deming about the implications of

recently reported Russian gold sales in the Middle East, Mr. Coombs said

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that these sales were almost invariably for dollars.

Most Russian

gold sales were made in London, Zurich, and Paris; however, the Russian

Government had recently opened a bank in the Middle East, and might be

channeling scme gold there.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the System Open Market Account transactions

in foreign currencies during the period

October 1 through October 21, 1963, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. Coombs said that before making his recommendations he

would like to report on several informal conversations he had had

recently with foreign central bank officials regarding their attitude

towards the present swap arrangements.

From conversations with officials

of the Bank for International Settlements, he thought they would probably

favor a further sizable increase in the $100 million swap line if

further heavy flows of funds into Switzerland made this desirable.

Secondly, the Swiss National Bank probably would also favor an increase

in the System's $100 million swap line with them to perhaps as much as

$200 million, if necessary.

Third, he gathered that the Bank of France

at present would not welcome a suggestion by the Federal Reserve for a

further increase in the swap line with them.

However, their attitude

did not appear to be based on any fundamental philosophical convictions

and might change rather quickly.

Mr. Coombs recommended renewal on a three-month basis of the

$250 million swap arrangement with the German Federal Bank and of the

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$100 million swap line with the Bank of France, both of which were

last renewed on August 6, 1963.

Renewal of the swap arrangements for

a further three-month period was approved.

Mr. Coombs then referred to the discussion at the preceding

meeting of the possibility of a standby swap arrangement with the

Bank of Japan, and said he was inclined to recommend a swap in the

amount of $103-$150 million.

He felt that the memorandum that had been

prepared undec Mr. Young's direction on the Japanese situation pointed

up the effectiveness with which the Japanese authorities had responded

in recent years to challenges posed by inflationary pressures and to

other problem:.

(Note:

A copy of this memorandum, dated October 18,

1963, has been placed in the files of the Committee.)

His conversations

with Bank of Japan officials gave Mr. Coombs the impression that they

were prepared to move fast to meet any new difficulties.

He also had

obtained the impression that if they drew on a swap line and had

difficulty in reversing it, they would have no hesitancy in approaching

the International Monetary Fund.

He noted that the Japanese were making

further progress in removing restrictions on current account transactions

and thought it probable that they would qualify for Article VIII status

by next spring.

While so far the Committee had refrained from making

swap arrangements with countries that did not have Article VIII status,

Mr. Coombs thought there were certain advantages in anticipating the

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-13There was apt to be much public

event in the Japanese case.

discussion of the problem of international liquidity during the

in connection with which the System might be asked to

coming months,

explain the details

of its swap arrangements.

Accordingly, he

thought

to move quickly to round out the swap network.

it advisable

In response to a question as to whether a condition was

contemplated under which drawings under the swap arrangement would not

be made until Japan had achieved Article VIII status,

Mr. Coombs replied

thought the Japanese would be fully agreeable to such a condition.

that he

The basic advantage of the swap arrangement, he noted in response to

another question, was

liquidity.

that it would increase Japan's international

He thought the arrangement would minimize internal pressures

on the Japanese authorities to increase

present level of

their gold ratio from its

low

17 per cent.

Mr. Mills said he felt that the staff memorandum on the Japanese

situation was

somewhat overdrawn as to the extent of Japan's progress

and the effectiveness with which the authorities there had dealt with

their problems.

He

thought

the Japanese

very largely by borrowing on both short-

economy

had been

sustained

and long-term, and asked whether

drawings under the proposed swap agreement might not serve simply as a

substitute for the private capital inflows

recent

years.

ment was

Mr.

Coombs replied that

not a substitute

for

the Japanese had

in his

enjoyed in

opinion the swap arrange-

long-term capital.

It was a short-term

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facility, and if the Japanese needed long-term money, they would have

to find it elsewhere.

Mr. Mills' second comment related to the suggestion that the

swap arrangement be approved on a conditional basis, to be effective

only when the Japanese achieved Article VIII. status.

He doubted that

this was wise, and felt that any such arrangement the System might

make with the Japanese should be clean-cut and without conditions.

Coombs replied that he had felt hesitant on this point.

Mr.

As he had

noted, the Japanese were prepared to accept the condition, but he

personally would not urge it.

He was interested in knowing how strongly

the Committee felt about a foreign country's having Article VIII status

as a prerequisite for a swap arrangement with the System.

In his view,

the main criterion was the importance of the country in world trade and

finance, and Article VIII status had served merely as a convenient rule

of thumb.

On this basis, the Japanese would qualify.

Moreover, they

were very close to full convertibility, with the main remaining

restriction relating to tourist travel, and completion of the swap

agreement might encourage them to move more rapidly to Article VIII status.

Mr. Bopp commented that approval of a swap arrangement with a

country that had not yet achieved Article VIII status--which to him

represented one important criterion out of several--might open the door

to negotiations with other countries whose currencies were not convertible.

He was inclined to feel that it would be desirable to include the condition,

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and perhaps also to postpone announcement of the swap arrangement

until the date Japan achieved Article VIII status.

Mr. Robertson received an affirmative reply to his question as

to whether a reciprocal currency arrangement with the Japanese would

round out the swap network, insofar as Mr. Coombs could judge at the

Mr. Coombs said he had thought of informally conveying the

moment.

impression that the swap network was now complete on a geographic basis.

A formal announcement to this effect might prove embarrassing later, if

the Committee should decide to broaden the network, but he agreed that

a statement with some such qualifying phrase as "complete for the time

being" might be desirable.

After this discussion, Mr. Robertson

commented that the only purpose he could see for including a condition

in the Japanese agreement was to lend credence to the notion that the

System was prepared to deal only with Article VIII countries, and he did

not think this desirable.

Moreover, to impose a condition that might not

be met until rext spring really amounted to accomplishing nothing at

present.

Mr. Balderston said that he favored the Japanese swap arrargement

for two reasons:

Japan was one of this country's best customers in the

world market, and could purchase gold from the United States if so

inclined.

He was troubled, however, on how to draw the line if and

when other countries proposed swap arrangements with the System.

Mr.

Coombs commented that this problem had been in his mind when he suggested

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that the Committee should not make Article VIII status a prerequisite

for swap arrangements.

There were several other countries with such

status with whom he thought swap arrangements would be undesirable.

because they failed to meet the more basic criteria he had mentioned,

and because they did not participate in various other arrangements of

major industrialized countries, such as the Organization for Economic

Cooperation ard Development and the "Group of Ten."

Mr. Scanlon commented that if the Committee approved a swap

arrangement with the Japanese without making it conditional on

Article VIII status, it seemed to him that the underlying rationale was

being changed.

As he read the record, the Committee had treated Article

VIII status as virtually a requisite for swap arrangements.

However,

he shared Mr. Robertson's feeling that if the Committee was going to

impose conditions it was really accomplishing little in authorizing

the arrangement.

Mr. Mitchell observed that the original purpose of the swap

arrangements had been to help shore up the dollar, and he felt they

had been helpful in this respect.

But it now appeared to him that

the System was in the position of creating Federal Reserve funds to

assist countries with trade deficits supported by short- and long-term

borrowing.

The Japanese position, in his view, was quite weak.

He had

no fundamental objection to the act of borrowing on short term for longterm purposes--there were many legitimate instances in which such a

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procedure was followed--but he felt the United States had enough

problems of its own without undertaking to help the Japanese with

theirs.

He agreed that there necessarily was a certain element of

mutuality in swap arrangements, but felt, nevertheless, that approval

of the Japanese swap arrangement would be a mistake.

Despite recent

gains, the international position of the United States was not strong

enough for this country to undertake to solve the problems of Japan

and Italy.

If the arrangements were truly reciprocal, he would expect

to see them developed between pairs of third countries, rather than all

emanating from the United States.

Mr. Coombs commented in reply that he could visualize the

eventual development of a broad network of bilateral swap arrangements

of the sort Mr. Mitchell mentioned, and thought that central bankers in

some other countries were thinking along this line.

to see such a network come about.

But.,

He would be pleased

he noted, the United States was

cast in a special role as banker to the world.

He thought of the proposed

Japanese arrangement as providing Japan with the same type of defense

as the United States had repeatedly needed.

He had continually stressed

the two-way street aspect of these arrangements.

To him they represented

a mutual defense, under which credit would be extended when

either party.

needed by

Mr. Hayes added that capital flows between the United

States and Japan could move in either direction, and the existence of a

swap arrangement with Japan might prove highly useful to the United

States in the future.

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-18Mr. Hickman questioned the proposed size of the swap line,

and asked whether $200 million might not be a better figure than $150

million, in view of the possibility of large and violent swings in

Japan's external flows.

Mr. Coombs agreed that a larger line might

be found necessary, but in view of various uncertainties he thought

it might be prudent to start with the lower figure, and increase it

if experience indicated that it was too small.

Chairman Martin said that he saw a real advantage in rounding

out the System's network, although without necessarily saying that it

was closed for all time.

He saw no particular advantage or disadvantage

in this case to Article VIII status as a condition; in any event, the

Japanese were close to full convertibility

He then proposed that the

Committee vote on an arrangement with Japar. in the amount of $150

million,without conditions relating to Article VIII status.

Thereupon, upon motior duly made

and seconded, approval was granted to the

negotiation of a standby reciprocal currency arrangement with the Bank of Japan

in the amount of $150 million.

Votes for this action: Messrs. Martin,

Hayes, Balderston, Bopp, Clay, Robertson,

Scanlon, Shepardson, and Shuford. Votes

against this action:

Messrs. Mills and

Mitchell.

Mr. Mills indicated that his reasons for dissenting from this

action went beyond the particular case of Japan.

They reflected his

desire to crystallize within the Committee awareness of what he felt

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to be a serious and dangerous drift towards greater laxity in System

foreign currency operations.

Mr. Coombs' final recommendations concerned the amounts and

form of the dollar limitations specified in the continuing authority

directive on foreign currency operations.

First, he proposed that

the limit on total foreign currency holdings be revised upward to $1.95

billion from its present level of $1.75 billion, to reflect the

Committee's action at the meeting of October 1, 1963, authorizing in-

creases in the size of the standby reciprocal currency arrangements

with the German Federal Bank and the Bank of Italy, and the Committee's

action at this meeting authorizing an arrangement with the Bank of

Japan.

The figure of $1.95 billion was the sum of the amounts that

had been specified by the Committee for all of the individual authorized

swap arrangements, and therefore represented the maximum of System

covered holdings of foreign currencies under these arrangements, in the

remote possibility that they might all simultaneously be fully drawn on.

Secondly, he proposed that the Committee specify separately a limit of

$150 million for foreign currencies purchased outright, on a spot basis.

Finally, he proposed continuation of the limit of $150 million that the

Committee had approved at the meeting of October 1, 1963, for forward

transactions undertaken for the three purposes specified in the directive.

In response to a question as to whether a $150 million limit

was appropriate for spot purchases of foreign currencies, Mr. Coombs

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noted that since such transactions were on an uncovered basis there

was an exchange risk involved, and he thought the Committee would want

to keep them under close control.

Asked whether the proposed limit

did not represent a loose rather than tight rein, Mr. Coombs indicated

that the volune of uncovered holdings in the past had sometimes reached

levels of $50 or $60 million.

If the Committee wanted to set the

limit at $100, or even $75, rather than $150 million, there probably

would be no great problem posed in operations.

No member, however,

pressed for a limit lower than $150 million.

Accordingly, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the continuing authority d:.rective for

System foreign currency operations was

amended, effective immediately, to read

as follows:

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is authorized and

directed to purchase and sell through spot transactions any

or all of the following currencies in accordance with the

Guidelines on System Foreign Currency Operations reaffirmed

by the Federal Open Market Committee on March 5, 1963, as

amended May 28, 1963; provided that the aggregate amount of

foreign currencies held under reciprocal currency arrangements

shall not exceed $1.95 billion equivalent at any one time, and

provided further that the aggregate amount of foreign currencies

held as a result of outright purchases shall not exceed $150

million equivalent at any one time:

Pounds sterling

French francs

German marks

Italian lire

Netherlands guilders

Swiss francs

Belgian francs

Canadian dollars

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Austrian schillings

Swedish kronor

Japanese yen

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is also authorized

and directed to operate in any or all of the foregoing

currencies in accordance with the Guidelines and up to a

combined total of $150 million equivalent, by means of:

(a)

purchases through forward transactions, for the

purpose of allowing greater flexibility in

covering commitments under reciprocal currency

agreements;

(b)

purchases and sales through forward as well as

spot transactions, for the purpose of utilizing

its holdings of one currency for the settlement

of commitments denominated in other currencies;

and

(c)

purchases through spot transactions and sales

through forward transactions, for the purpose of

restraining short-term outflows of funds induced

by arbitrage considerations.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report covering open market operations in U. S.

Government securities and bankers' acceptances for the period October 1

through October 16, 1963, and a supplementary report covering the

period October 17 through October 21,

have been placed in

1963.

Copies of these reports

the files of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Stone commented

as follows:

Perhaps the major development since the last meeting of

the Committee has been the note of caution that has crept

into the Government securities market and the corporate and

municipal bond markets. This more hesitant tone has been

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particularly evident in the Treasury bill market, with the

rate on three-month bills in the auction yesterday at about

3.49 per cent, up 8 basis points in three weeks, while the

six-month issue, which averaged 3.63 per cent yesterday, is

up 12 basis points. In considerable measure, of course, the

upward pressure on bill rates has been the consequence of the

substantial addition the Treasury is making to Treasury bill

supplies. Today's auction of a $1 billion bill strip follows

the offering earlier this month of $2.0 billion March tax

anticipation bills and two earlier monthly auctions of $1

billion one-year bills. Even with the pay off at maturity

of the October 15 bills, the Treasury has added $2.5 billion

to bill supplies during the past two months, and the market

fully expects the monthly offering to add another billion next

week. The market has not been prepared to absorb these

additional supplies of bills at pre-existing rate levels, and

rates have therefore moved up to a range where the additional

bills can be absorbed.

At the same time, market participants have become somewhat apprehensive about the general economic background and

its implications for interest rates. Continuing signs of

strength in the domestic economy, the rise in stock prices

to record heights, and a sprinkling of price increases have

all contributed to increasing caution. Moreover, the appearance

of somewhat lower free reserve figures during the recent period

has led some market participants to question whether policy

might be undergoing a slight shift toward less ease.

The rise of the bill rate to the neighborhood of 3-1/2 per

cent in response to these factors has given rise to some

discussion of the possibility of a discount rate increase some

time before the end of the year. In the circumstances, dealers

have taken advantage of good demand from corporate and other

customers at the higher rate levels to reduce their total bill

position,. by $400 million to $2.1 billion over the three weeks

ended last Friday despite their awards of $2.8 billion bills

during the period. Given the uncertainties in .the background,

however, dealers have found investors primarily interested in

shorter bills so that their holdings of longer bills have

actually increased despite efforts to dispose of them at higher

rates.

The prices of Treasury notes and bonds have been sliding

for most of the past three weeks in response to the same background factors that have affected the Treasury bill market.

Market participants, at the time of the last meeting of the

Committee, still expected that prices would move up and that

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they could dispose of their large holdings of the issues

acquired in the September advance refunding at rising

prices. Subsequently, with the development of the more

cautious attitude I have already noted, dealers and other

short-te:m holders of the 4 per cent bonds of 1973 and 4-1/8

per cent bonds of 1989-94 sought to take some of the profits

they already had in these issues. Large scale purchases by

Treasury investment accounts helped to relieve some of the

downward price pressures that developed early in the period.

Subsequently, with Treasury accounts largely out of the

market, prices moved progressively lower as investment buying

did not fully take up offerings by dealers and others at

existing prices. Over the period, however, dealers were able

to reduce their holdings of bonds in the 5- to 10-year area

by over $300 million to about $100 million and bonds in the

over 20-year area by $125 million to about $150 million.

Prices in the corporate and municipal bond markets have

tended slightly downward over the past ten days or so,

reflecting the same background factors that have been at

work in :he Government securities market. A buildup in the

calendar of forthcoming corporate issues has exerted a

restraining influence in that market, while a sizable volume

of offerings and an accumulation of municipal bonds on

dealers' shelves has led to a little heavier atmosphere in

that sector in the last few days.

The Treasury plans to announce tomorrow the terms on

which it will refinance its $7.6 billion of November 15

maturities, of which we hold about $3.9 billion. It also

plans to announce tomorrow another issue of $1 billion oneyear bills, to be auctioned next week and to be paid for on

November 4. For the November 4 refunding, the Treasury is

considering whether to offer one or two issues. If it does

offer two, the longer option will probably mature within 5

years. We would plan to take the shorter of the two options

unless some good reason to the contrary should arise.

At the last meeting the Committee raised the leeway to

$1.5 billion since the projections pointed to the possibility

that we might have to absorb close to $1 billion of reserves.

As it turned out, the projections were considerably wide of

the mark, and we absorbed substantially less than the figures

suggested would be necessary. Looking ahead, the estimates

suggest that we may have to supply nearly $1 billion reserves

over the next three weeks. This time, the figures could be

right, or could be wide of the mark in the wrong direction.

I should therefore like to suggest that the leeway be

retained at $1.5 billion for another three weeks.

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Government securities dealers had suffered losses in connection with

the recent Treasury financing operations, and whether any such losses

might discourage their participation in the forthcoming Treasury

financing.

Mr. Stone replied that he did not think dealers had

suffered losses.

At one point dealers had profits of 3/8 point in

the 4-1/8 per cent bonds of 1989-94, acquired in the September advance

refunding, and they had taken profits at declining prices as they

reduced their positions.

As for Treasury bills, while the cost of

marginal funds from New York banks had beer relatively high, at 3-7/8

per cent, dealers had been able to borrow a good deal of nonbank money

at 3-1/2 per cent, and, in his opinion, the average cost of funds was

low enough for them to carry their portfolios without loss.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote, the

open market transactions in Government

securities and bankers' acceptances during

the period October 1 through October 21,

1963, were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

The Chairman then called for staff economic and financial reports,

supplementing the written reports that had been distributed in advance

of the meeting, and copies of which have been placed in the files of

the Committee.

Mr. Koch presented the following statement on economic

developments:

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There have been some surprises in recent economic

news, but by and large--taking account of both the good

and the bad--developments have been in line with expecta-

tions of further moderate expansion in the closing quarter

of the year. Pervasive influences making for ups and downs

over a wide range of indicators have been steel and auto

developments.

When discounted for adjustment to earlier

stock accumulation in steel and for the model changeover

in autos, fluctuations have not been as significant as they

appear at first glance.

The bad news for September was a sharp and widespread

decline in retail sales, perhaps attributable in part to

difficulty in making appropriate adjustments for seasonal

influences. The more or less neutral news included little

change in the unemployment rate and in industrial production.

There was a cessation in the decline in steel activity, little

change in output of other materials, a turnup in auto

assemblies, and a sharp rise in truck production.

Other good news for September included moderate increases

in employment and personal income, a 4 per cent rise in new

orders for durable goods, and a jump in housing starts. But

the employment increase was heavily concentrated in State and

local employment of teachers, reflecting the beginning of the

new school year, and in the auto industry. The rise in the

average workweek in manufacturing was similar to last year,

and reflected mainly the pickup in auto output. The rise in

new orders was general, but in quanti,:ative terms much of it

represented autos, steel, and defense. The September level

of housing starts is very large indeed, but the figure for

August has been revised down sharply, and the average of the

two months is not much different from that of preceding months.

For the third quarter as a whole, the gross national

product is estimated by the Council of Economic Advisers to

have increased by about $9 billion, to an annual rate of $588-1/2

billion.

This is a significantl, larger increase than had been

generally anticipated.

The sharper than expected rise came

mainly in the private investment sector, with residential and

other construction and producers' durable equipment all up.

One surprise here, considering the working off of steel stocks,

is the fact that inventory investment is tentatively estimated

at about the same rate as in the second quarter. State and

local spending showed an unusually large advance, as road

construction spurted following a spring decline.

In early October, total retail sales appeared to be well

along in recovering the sharp September loss.

Auto sales were

in very large volume--above a year earlier--but these sales

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are still greatly influenced by early model year fleet sales.

Press reports suggest, however, that public acceptance of the

new models has been highly favorable.

Steel production has

risen slightly but is still only at a level a little over

60 per cent of capacity. The industrial production index will

get some help from auto and steel production this month, but

since the.direct impact of steel and autos on the total index

is small, the course of the total will depend mainly on what

happens in the rest of industry, about which as yet we know

almost nothing.

Taken together, a sizable further rise in the GNP is

likely in the current quarter. Nonetheless, it appears unlikely

that the unemployment rate will decline significantly or that

much additional pressure will be put on industrial capacity.

Current indications are that expansion will carry over

into 1964. First, there is the likelihood of the substantial

tax cut to stimulate spending, although legislation may not

be enacted until next year. Secondly, the first two surveys

of anticipated business plant and equipment outlays in 1964,

those by Lionel Edie and McGraw-Hill, the results of which are

still confidential and in part incomplete, suggest that

expenditures next year are likely to be 5 to 8 per cent higher

than those for this year as a whole and also somewhat higher

than those for the fourth quarter of this year.

As for the price situation, there have been some obvious

stirrings since last spring.

Certain important lines of

business that have long felt the need but not the ability to

raise profit margins now find that the demand for their product

is strong enough to enable them to test selective price increases.

Thus far, however, stability has persisted in the broad price

indices. The real question about the recent stirring is whether

the selective price increases that have developed to date are

likely to cumulate and to contribute significantly to a pricecost spiral.

The evidence on this question is not yet in, and probably

won't be in for some time. While prices of some commodities have

increased in recent months, prices of a much larger number have

been stable and prices of still others have declined. In a few

cases, a price increase was announced by a single producer and

then subsequently rescinded when his lead was not followed by

competitors.

Finally, there are some relevant longer run facts

available that suggest that a cumulative upward spiral is not a

likelihood unless the economic expansion picks up speed

significantly.

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In the first place, productivity continues to increase

sharply, which is unusual after 30 months of cyclical

expansion. Secondly, profits are apparently rising

considerably, and there is still ample unutilized plant

capacity in most lines. Thirdly, wage increases continue to

be moderate. Moreover, for the short run it is important

that wage contracts in some of the strategic industries

cannot be reopened soon, for example, in autos not until

next summer and in steel not until early 1965.

The current level of unemployment is also still apt to

be an important restraining factor in wage negotiations.

Labor is not likely to attempt to push up wages sharply in

a period when it considers its bargaining position unfavorable.

All this could, of course, be upset in the longer run, for if

prices and profits continue to rise, labor would no doubt seek

more aggressively to obtain what it considers its fair share

of the over-all gains.

Mr. Holland presented the following statement on financial

developments:

In the past month or so, markets have been accommodating

themselves to the onset of fall financial pressures, punctuated

by significant Treasury financing actions in both the long- and

the short-term segments of the market. In the process,'interest

rates across the board have edged up 5 to 10 basis points, and

free reserves have worked lower.

Watching these lower free reserve figures emerge day by

day, I cculd not help but be struck with several factors.

First is the tendency among some larger banks to be quicker to

cover their marginal reserve needs at the discount window.

Such a tendency may reflect the stronger loan demand they are

accommodating, the higher level of market interest rates relative

to the discount rate, or perhaps some one or a combination of

other factors. But the result has been to lower the level of

free reserves that is associated with a given degree of tension

in the central money market. In addition, the recent lower free

reserve figures reflect a succession of misses on the downside

in both day-to-day projections and week-to-week estimates of

changes at nonreporting banks. Misses are an ever-present

problem, but they tended to cumulate in the downward direction

unusually often in the past few reserve weeks. Part of this is

explicable, however, for in hindsight we can see that private

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demands for bank credit and bank deposits were mounting more

than seasonally, and increasing bank reserve needs in the

process.

These recent developments have been generating some

adjustments within the banking system. Bank loan demand

from nonfinancial borrowers is proving considerably stronger

than seasonal, with business loans showing a brisker pace

than earlier this year. An important part of this loan

strength is centered outside the major cities. The dimensions

of the loan expansion do not approach those of a boom, but they

are large enough, given current reserve availability, to compel

banks to break the pattern of sizable net purchases of

securities that they had maintained so much further through

this expansion period than in others. While still participating

in successive Treasury financings, banks have been net sellers

of Governments in most intervening weeks. They have also cut

back on purchases of municipals and agency issues, a fact that

probably has a good deal to do with the recent poorer sales of

the enlarged volume of new municipal issues. Meanwhile, bank

loans to securities dealers and finance companies have dropped

back, following the September tax date bulge.

These actions have produced a net slowing of total bank

earning asset expansion, and would ordinarily have been

accompanied by a slackened rate of private deposit growth.

Such tendency has been offset, however, by a more than

corresponding drop in U. S. Government deposits at banks from

their unusually high summer levels. Bolstered by these net

deposit transfers from Government hands, the totals of private

demand deposits, time deposits, and the combined reserves

required to support such deposits have all been rising. The

money supply has moved up to a level some 4 per cent above a

year ago. Even this advance, however, has not quite kept pace

with the growth in GNP or in the volume of transactions being

funneled through the public's checking accounts. As a

consequence, money velocity has risen somewhat further,

measured on either an income or transactions basis. Should the

current business pick-up lead the public to wish to continue

adding to money balances at anything like the recent rate, the

banking system will be in for some further changes. This is

because no further boost to private deposits appears likely

from Government deposit reductions; they are already down to a

level around which they are projected to oscillate for the

remainder of the year. Thus, any continuation of recent money

demand would need to be compensated for by slower time deposit

growth, or by more intensive bank reserve utilization (probably

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including more discounting), or be tranquilized, as it were,

by somewhat more attractive rates on near-moneys.

Insofar as time deposits are concerned, banks are hard

at work trying to maintain their levels of time certificates

of deposit in the face of the fall needs for corporate funds

and the increased yields of other money market investments.

We hear of active solicitation efforts by some prime-name

banks that are serving to stretch the conventional 25 basis

point margin of CD rates over Treasury bill rates of comparable

maturity.

While the impact of such bank efforts has already been

felt in some degree through most of the markets for short-term

instruments, the long-term markets may be less far along in

the process of responding to the apparent change of pace in

bank takings of securities. This is particularly true of the

municipal market, which has been heavily dependent upon bank

buying over the past year and a half. The absence of any

strong market reaction to date may reflect hopes by market

participants that banks will reappear as substantial net buyers

of intermediate and longer term securities. If those hopes

prove unfounded, an appreciable market readjustment would

undoubtedly result.

The Government securities market now appears technically

in a better position than the municipal market and less

dependent upon the banks. Nonetheless, the new issues supplied

by the recent advance refunding are still not fully digested.

Furthermore, the Government market will have its hands relatively

full over the next two to three weeks with new Treasury activity,

as outlined by the Manager in his report. The one-year bill

issues are becoming semi-routine for the dealers to handle, as

are bill strips to a lesser degree. Furthermore, the November 15

refunding offering is not expected to involve any issue

sufficiently long to disturb the tenor of the market. But the

sum total of such activity argues for maintenance of an "even

keel" policy over the next three weeks. A policy of no change

would also befit the state of the capital markets more generally

viewed. Three weeks from now, with the Treasury financings

presumably successfully completed, the Committee should find

itself in a better position to evaluate the appropriate posture

for monetary policy to assume in dealing with the climactic

seasonal pressures that will arise later in November and December.

Mr. Furth presented the following statement with regard to the

U. S. balance of payments:

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The U. S. payments deficit in September was smaller

than forecast on the basis of the tentative weekly figures.

The official figure of $170 million includes, as a financing

item, the issue of $50 million of so-called convertible

nonmarketable Treasury securities to foreign monetary

authorities to replace similar so-called nonconvertible bonds

of a shorter maturity. Since this exchange does not materially

affect the international liquidity position of the U. S., the

Board's staff prefers to consider the transaction neutral from

the point of view of the U. S. payments balance; accordingly,

the deficit would be only $120 million.

Thanks to this unexpectedly good result, the deficit for

the thir quarter as a whole is also likely to be smaller than

forecast. Based on the calculation preferred by the Board's

staff, the estimated deficit is at a seasonally adjusted annual

rate of less than $2-1/4 billion--and this estimate assumes

that the final September figure will be about $25 million

higher than the figure mentioned in the beginning. According

to the calculation favored by the Commerce Department, the

annual rate would be only $1-1/4 billion; and according to

the most favorable calculation sometimes used by the Treasury

Department, it would be as low as 1/2 of 1 billion dollars.

The table distributed to the Committee shows the derivation

of these various figures from their common source.

(Note: A

copy of this table has been placed in the files of the Committee.)

The improvement of the payments balance since the first

half of the year apparently reflected sharp reduction in the net

outflow of capital. Foreign security issues have abruptly

declined while bank term loans, which would be exempt from the

proposed interest equalization tax, may have begun to rise

again. This development suggests that part of the improvement

has been due to the initial shock effect of the tax proposal,

and that capital outflows may increase again once the market

becomes cognizant of the loopholes left by the proposed bill.

It remains to be seen whether moral suasion or other methods

can help to close at least the loophole of bank loan exemptions.

Tentative figures for the first half of October suggest

that the deficit may again be on the rise. But the weekly

figures are so erratic that data for one or two weeks are not

indicative.

Developments abroad are, on the whole, encouraging. Europe

seems to continue its upswing. There is some question whether

Continental Europe as a whole is reducing or increasing its

trade surplus:

in the first half, Continental European imports

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rose faster than exports but over the summer months imports

remained stable while exports, especially from Germany,

started again to expand.

Rumors of revaluation of the Netherlands guilder and

of devaluation of the Italian lira appear to have produced

large inter-European transfers of funds. But the dollar has

been affected by these movements as the vehicle currency of

most exchange transactions: when there are heavy shifts,

say, of Italian lire into Swiss francs, the dollar should,

in theory, become stronger against the lira and weaker against

the franc, so that the combined impact would be neutral. But

if, as has actually happened, the Italian authorities intervene

in the market to prevent the lira from weakening, the dollar

does not strengthen in Milan but it weakens in Zurich--with

unfavorable psychological repercussions. This is one of the

inevitable consequences of the international eminence of the

dollar.

Beyond their immediate market effect, however, the recent

vicissitudes of European currencies suggest that the payments

surplus of some European countries may be more vulnerable than

many observers realize. The Italian payments balance, for

instance, has changed from a surplus of $500 million in 1962

to a deficit in 1963, which may turn out quite as large; in

terms of the U. S. economy, this would mean a shift in the

payments balance by $10 billion. In the Netherlands, the wage

controls, which many of our European friends had strongly

recommended as a model for a U. S. income policy, have apparently

broken down. In France, wage and price freezes are used to

combat inflation, despite the long history of failures of such

measures. All these developments seem to indicate that the

comparative export advantage of some European countries has an

uncertain basis.

If I may be permitted to indulge in some highly tentative

forecasting of the U. S. payments position, I should guess that

any renewed outflow of long-term capital may well be offset, or

perhaps more than offset, by improvement in the trade balance.

This assumes that the sale of U. S. wheat to the Soviets is not

permitted to founder on excessive U. S. freight rates; that a

sizable part of the export proceeds is received in cash; and

that the Canadian wheat sale to the Soviets will in turn lead

to an increase in Canadian imports from the U. S. Thus, the

relatively favorable third-quarter results may well be equalled

or perhaps surpassed in the period immediately ahead.

But the third-quarter payments deficit still remains too

large, and the United States still has the greater part of the

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way to go until the $3-1/2 billion rate prevailing in the

past few years is replaced by reasonable equilibrium.

Chairman Martin then called for the go-around of comments and

views on economic conditions and monetary policy, beginning with Mr.

Hayes, who presented the following statement:

The domestic business outlook continues generally

favorable. A note of caution is perhaps warranted by the

failure of industrial production in September to show any

appreciable pick-up after the August dip, and by an unexplained

drop in retail sales in September. On the other hand, when

retail

sales for August and September are viewed together,

they are much more satisfactory. New model auto sales appear

to be going well, consumer buying plans are better than a

year ago, and rising plant and equipment spending by

business is in prospect.

Optimism is widespread, and has

been reinforced in recent days by the rise of stock prices to

record levels. Passage of the tax bill around the turn of

the year could provide a strong additional stimulant.

While the wholesale price index has been quite steady,

there have been a considerable number of significant individual

price increases recently. Future developments in this area

will certainly bear watching.

September witnessed a sharp gain in bank credit. It is

particularly interesting to note that in the first nine months

of 1963 most measures of bank credit, bank deposits and bank

reserves showed growth rates roughly equal to or a little

greater than those in the first nine months of 1962, despite

the several modifications of monetary policy in the direction

of less ease in the past year and

a half.

For example, required

reserves rose this year at an annual rate of 3.4 per cent as

compared with 2.6 per cent a year earlier, total bank credit

at 7.4 per cent as against 7.9 per cent and money supply plus

time depcsits at 7.1 per cent as against 6.1 per cent. While

it is true that the level of short-term interest rates rose

considerably, the question may legitimately be raised whether

the degree of over-all liquidity and credit availability has

not remained somewhat higher than the Committee has intended

it to be. Even from a domestic point of view, the result may

have been a somewhat excessive growth of credit in some areas-and the readiness of banks to lend abroad has continued unabated.

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The latest balance of payments developments have been

On the

encouraging for the first time in many months.

basis of preliminary September figures--which may, of course,

turn out to be misleading--there was a very sharp improvement

in the third quarter over the second quarter. The de facto

freeze on foreign bond issues and the beneficial influence of

monetary policy moves on short-term capital flows were

probably important contributing factors. Trade prospects

have been helped importantly by the Russian grain shortage.

However, it is certainly too early to say whether a true

turning point in our balance of payments position has been

reached. In particular we must watch for signs that the

freeze on new issues may be causing an unusual bulge in term

loans by American banks to foreigners and for signs that

nervousness as to possible future controls may be inducing

American firms and individuals to place or leave funds abroad.

There has been an increasing tendency toward more restrictive

credit policies in Europe to counter inflationary threats in

several important countries. We cannot overlook the possibility

that monetary policy may have to be called upon again in this

country to contribute to further progress toward balance of

payments equilibrium.

For the time being, the Treasury's active financing

program suggests the desirability of cur refraining from any

significant policy change. And in any case there is something

to be said for a wait-and-see attitude for a few weeks,,while

we try to appraise more accurately both balance of payments

and domestic business prospects for the fourth quarter.

Fortunately, the prospective offering of $2 billion of Treasury

bills before the month-end, in addition to the regular weekly

issues, is likely to bring a continuation of the upward pressure on bill rates that has been visible in recent weeks. It

seems to me that we should seek to preserve about the kind of

general money market atmosphere that has prevailed in the last

three wee.s. If Treasury activities should tend to put

additional pressure on bill rates we should not try very hard

to offset it.

The directive can probably be left as it is, except for

the inclusion of some reference to the imminent Treasury

financing.

There is one area where I believe a policy move could be

very useful in the near future. I am thinking of the possibility

of further liberalization of the ceiling on time deposit interest

rates under Regulation Q. In line with the generally firmer

tendency of short-term market interest rates in recent weeks,

the rates on time certificates of deposit have risen to levels

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where the 4 per cent ceiling is having some restrictive

effects. It means that some of the moderate-sized banks

outside of the money centers are no longer able to compete

for 3-month, 6-month and one-year money. This would not

seem to be a healthy situation, either from a domestic

point of view or from the standpoint of the balance of

payments.

In my judgment it would be well to lift the

ceiling substantially in order to permit normal competitive

factors free play in determining the size and geographical

distribution of this important segment of the money market.

Looking a little further ahead, it occurs to me that

the Board might wish to consider injecting a few hundred

million dollars of needed seasonal reserves by making

another reduction in reserve requirements, preferably those

If last year's experience

applicable to reserve city banks.

is any criterion, the danger that this might be interpreted

as a move toward greater ease is not very great, and it

should have beneficial results in the short-term rate area.

It also seems logical to use this instrument to provide at

least part of the country's long-term needs for additional

bank reserves.

Mr. Ellis said that it was difficult to interpret the various

conflicting economic indicators for New England.

Nonfarm employment

was virtually unchanged from a year ago, and employment and manhours

worked in manufacturing were down.

However, there had been a slight

pickup in weekly earnings, and personal incomes were about 3 per cent

higher.

Department store sales were running about 9 per cent above

year-ago levels.

Automobile sales were strengthening, and there was

a more widespread use of consumer credit.

By the end of August, total

new credit extensions were sufficient to bring the 12 months gain to

6.7 per cent.

Automobile credit extensions also picked up in September

after a pause in August.

In September, 78 per cent of District

instalment loans on new automobiles had maturities in excess of 30

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months, as compared with 75-1/2 per cent last year.

Turning to the national economy, M,:. Ellis observed that the

recent new highs in stock market price indexes had been achieved at

a time when margin requirements were 50 per cent.

Customer credit

had risen about 18 per cent above its high before the May 1962 decline

in stock prices.

He also noted that banks had been stepping up loans

to brokers, with a rise of about 50 per cent in the 12 months endir.g

in September.

Another category showing a large gain was foreign loans,

up about 25 per cent, and it was natural to anticipate that banks

would be under more pressure to grant foreign loans, in view of the

decline in foreign long-term capital issues in this country.

He

sensed that the pressure to make foreign loans was extending beyond

the New York banks; Boston banks showed sharp increases.

These observations were offered, Mr. Ellis said, to highlight

the degree of credit availability that had been provided in recent

weeks.

He felt the domestic economy did not need the liquidity, and

banks did not need the degree of credit availability, that the Committee

had been providing.

market.

He was pleased by the recent firming in the money

The initiative lay with the market.

If and when credit demands

strengthened this fall, he would expect required reserves to exceed

the staff's guidelines even with no net change in free reserves.

As to policy, Mr. Ellis thought it would be appropriate to

confirm the recent firmness in the money market, and probable further

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firmness that might develop.

As targets cf monetary policy actions

he would suggest a short-term bill rate fluctuating around the

discount rate, but not falling below 3.4 per cent.

Net free reserves

might best be in the lower part of the range from zero to $100 million.

He would not favor any immediate action on discount rates.

While he

believed this policy was consistent with the present directive and he

would not urge a change in the directive, he thought it would be

desirable to update the wording of the directive soon.

Mr. Coldwell reported that the Eleventh District economy slowed

a little in August and September, with industrial production down

slightly.

On the other hand, construction contract awards in August

were at their highest levels since May, with residential, public works,

and utilities construction leading the way.

Cumulatively for the year

to date, construction activity was 10 per cent above a year ago.

Employment conditions in the Eleventh District were fairly

stable, Mr. Coldwell said.

sectors and up in others.

Retail sales were down a little in some

Except for a good cotton crop, the agricul-

tural situation in the District had been affected adversely by the

lack of rain in some areas.

The drought in the area east of San

Antonio was creating forced cattle sales, with resulting downward

pressures on cattle prices.

In the banking and financial area, data for weekly reporting

banks indicated strong loan demand, particularly in real estate,

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consumer and security categories, and a slight rise in bank investments.

Total bank credit, therefore, was expanding rather sharply in the District,

and there was some pressure on reserve positions.

Federal funds purchases

by District banks had risen markedly, and borrowings from the Federal

Reserve Bank had increased considerably in the past few weeks.

Mr. Swan reported that business activity in the Twelfth District

had continued to advance in September, although somewhat unevenly.

Employment was up slightly more than seasonally but the unemployment

rate remained unchanged at a level above that for the nation as a whole,

as the labor force continued to expand.

It was encouraging that employ-

ment had increased despite nine successive months of declines in defense-

related employment, which currently was 4 per cent below the peak reached

in December 1962.

The

larger banks in the District, as a group, had

swung back to being net sellers of Federal funds, but the pattern was

uneven as some banks were borrowing in corsiderable amounts in the Federal

funds market and from the Reserve Bank.

Mr. Swan noted that some savings and loan associations in the

District had announced increases in rates paid to shareholders effective

October 1.

These seemed to fall in two groups:

some that had reduced

rates in the middle of the year and were now returning them to earlier

levels; and a second group, consisting mainly of smaller institutions,

that had not made earlier reductions.

rate continued at 4.8 or 4.85 per cent.

He thought the typical prevailing

Some of the associations were

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increasing the frequency with which they compounded interest, and

were emphasizing this fact in their advertising.

This was one of the

factors that had led some of the smaller institutions to offer higher

rates on a quarterly compounding basis.

The effect of the September

announcement of higher rates was not yet known.

District savings and

loan associations did not do too well in attracting funds in July,

but in August the inflow of funds was twice that of July.

With respect to policy, Mr. Swan believed that both the Treasury

financing program and the economic situation in general suggested a

position for the next three weeks of even keel, or no change.

He was

a little concerned, however, about exactly what "no change" meant row

that the bill rate was about equal to, rather than slightly below, the

discount rate.

It seemed to him that the situation that had developed

during the last three weeks was a little different from the one

anticipated at the last meeting.

He agreed that in the past the Committee

may have over-emphasized the significance of small changes in bill

rates, but he thought such changes took on increasing importance as

the bill rate approached the discount rate.

He shared the opinion Mr.

Mitchell had expressed at the last meeting that when the bill rate

rises to a point where it is fluctuating around the discount rate it

becomes increasingly difficult to avoid action on the discount rate.

He thought this might not be a real problem for the next three weeks,

but it was something that soon was going to confront the Committee

more strongly than it had in the past.

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-39Mr. Deming reported that the agricultural situation

Ninth District was good this year.

in the

The direct effect the Russian

wheat deal would have on the economy of the District was not entirely

clear, but it was evident that it would at least have pronounced

indirect effects, by making wheat prices firmer.

Sentiment in the

wheat country was overwhelmingly in favor of the deal.

Nonagricultural

activity seemed to be moving just about the same way in the District

as in the nation, and confidence with respect to the immediate future

of the economy seemed quite high in the District.

Banking conditions in the District were somewhat mixed, Mr.

Deming said.

At country banks, which apparently were under no liquidity

pressure, loans were expanding, whereas loans at city banks continued

to seesaw from week to week.

City banks were on the buying side of

the Federal funds market fairly consistently.

Occasionally there

would be a scramble for Federal funds, and occasionally a city member

bank would borrow from the Reserve Bank.

Mr. Deming said he would subscribe to an even keel policy, in

view of the imminent Treasury refunding, and a change in the directive

to refer to the Treasury financing seemed all that was needed.

no reason to change the discount rate at this time.

He saw

In a concluding

observation, Mr. Deming said that he thought the Desk had done well

during the past three weeks.

As to the reserve projections, he supposed

they presented a problem that could not be licked completely.

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-40Mr. Scanlon reported that economic activity in the Seventh

District apparently had moved to new high Levels in October as steel

output continued to rise from the August low, production of 1964 autos

increased sharply, and output of machinery and equipment rose further.

Business optimism in the District had strengthened further and there

was widespread confidence that economic activity would continue to rise

well into next year.

Sentiment had not been dampened by declines in

the national data on industrial production in August and retail sales

in September.

However, many individuals predicated their optimism on

a tax cut to take place early next year.

Some business firms had been encouraged by an improvement in

their profit margins, Mr. Scanlon said, particularly when allowance

was made for higher depreciation taken under the new guidelines.

While

some price markups had not held, others had, in such varied lines as

steel and steel products, chemicals, and hot water heaters, and were

expected to have a favorable impact on profits of the firms

involved.

Labor market conditions appeared to have improved further in

most District centers when allowance was made for recent fluctuations

in steel and autos.

Preliminary October figures suggested that retail

sales had increased from the somewhat depressed September level.

Cash receipts from farm marketings in the District in the

first seven months of this year equaled receipts in the comparable

year-ago period, Mr. Scanlon said.

Larger sales of corn and soybeans

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at higher prices had offset smaller receipts from livestock sales.

As of October 1, farm land values in the District were estimated by

country bankers to average 3 per cent above last year.

The future

trend of land values was expected to be stable or to continue upward.

Mr. Scanlon said that the most: significant banking development

in the District in recent weeks had been the strength in business loans.

The recent surge of loan demand seemed to be concentrated at the large

banks, however.

Virtually all of the rise at weekly reporting banks in

the third quarter was in the Chicago money market banks.

For the third

quarter as a whole, reporting banks in the District showed an increase

of almost 4 per cent in commercial and indurtrial loans, a rise nearly

twice as large as for the country as a whole.

The basic deficit posi-

tion of the Chicago banks remained somewhat in excess of $200 million,

but they had been able to cover most of this with Federal funds.

As to policy, Mr. Scanlon said he would favor maintaining the

prevailing degree of firmness in the money market, and noted that he

was referring to the rates that had prevailed during the preceding

few days.

He did not favor a change in the discount rate and would

change the directive only insofar as necessary to reflect the Treasury

financing.

Mr. Clay said that economic developments in the Tenth District

continued to differ from those in the country as a whole.

District

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nonfarm employment, seasonally adjusted, had dipped slightly from

the advanced level reached early this year.

This followed a period

of rising employment during the last half of 1962 and of stability

in early 1963.

Nationally, scarcely any uptrend was evident in

employment during the last half of 1962, but marked improvement had

developed this year.

Tenth District manufacturing employment had

shown little change during 1963 and was about 1-1/2 per cent less than

year-earlier levels, while nationally, manufacturing employment was

nearly 1 per cent higher than in comparable months of 1962.

Mr. Clay reported that farm income prospects in the Tenth

District relative to last year were slightly less favorable than in

the nation.

He attributed this in part to smaller crop production

this year in contrast with record production nationally, and in part

to substantially lower prices on meat animals, which are relatively

more important in Tenth District agriculture than in the nation.

Higher costs of production were expected to bring a decline in net

farm income nationally as well as in the Tenth District, but the decline

would be more marked in the District for the reasons he had mentioned.

Mr. Clay noted that interest rates had moved to higher levels

than the Committee had set as its goal three weeks ago, with the 90-day

Treasury bill rate even reaching 3-1/2 per cent at one time.

In his

opinion various factors, including Treasury financing activities,

public statements, and misses in financial data projections, had worked

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to that end.

It was important, Mr. Clay said, that this recent

development should not be viewed as a monetary posture that the

Committee would become committed to maintain.

This was particularly

important inasmuch as it had been suggested in previous meetings that

market developments leading to a Treasury bill rate in line with the

Federal Reserve discount rate might be used as the base for another

upward movement in the discount rate.

Monetary policy had moved to a point, Mr. Clay said, where

further actions in this same direction must be evaluated critically

in terms of the effectiveness of policy in sustaining economic expansion.

While the over-all output performance of te economy in the third quarter

was encouraging,

questions remained as to the sustaining character of

the composition of demand growth achieved in this upswing.

Moreover,

the relationship of monetary policy to the lagging elements in the

expansion became of crucial importance at this stage of the cycle.

Such an analysis did not lead easily, in his opinion, to acceptance of

the present market position as the base for a change in monetary policy

resulting in another roun

of interest rate increases and lessened

credit availability.

At the present time, Mr. Clay said, the Committee should continue

to provide additional reserves to the banking system for credit expansion

and should not feel constrained to prevent the 90-day bill rate from

falling somewhat below its recent level.

Treasury financing presumably

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would be a factor in the conduct of open market operations in the

period immediately ahead.

Mr. Wayne said that signs of further improvement continued

to mark most sectors of Fifth District business.

Factors indicating

current strength included a sharp rise in building permits to a new

high in September, sustained high-level demand for bituminous coal.,

and strong and apparently improving markets for textiles and furniture.

These trends were supported by the latest Reserve Bank survey, which

indicated a continuation of general optimism, strength in construction,

and further rises in manufacturing new orders, shipments, employment,

and hou-s.

With respect to national conditions, Mr. Wayne said the

behavior of the economy in September and thus far in October suggested

that earlier signs of hesitation were temporary and probably the result

of special factors.

It seemed reasonably clear that the current strength

was greater than seasonal.

In the international area, there had been

substantial improvements in nearly all segments of the balance of payments, at least for the time being.

The problem was by no means solved,

but was a little less urgent than three months ago.

Mr. Wayne said that he found himself in almost complete agreement

with Messrs. Ellis and Scanlon on policy.

He favored maintaining an

"even keel" for the next three weeks, interpreting this to mean a bill

rate pressing rather firmly against the discount rate and free reserves

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between zero and $100 million.

He shared Mr. Ellis' concern regarding

the degree of liquidity the Committee had maintained in the economy.

He thought developments in the near future might suggest it was more

than needed.

Mr. Mills said that, in his view, the Committee was tied to

a continuing commitment to follow a monetary and credit policy mear.t

to combat the balance of payments problem.

If such was the case, the

policy followed since the last meeting of the Committee appeared to

him appropriate.

This policy was exemplified in the technical results

revealed in the supply of reserves available to the banking system and

in the movements of interest rates.

Mr. Robertson presented the following statement:

I t.ke it that the cluttered Treasury financing calendar

over the next three weeks effectively precludes our making

any change in monetary policy. Even keel considerations in

this respect are reinforced by the sensitive state of the

capital markets in general. I would want us to do nothing

that would send a serious ripple of tightening through the

financial markets at this stage, and this implies that we

should be trying to achieve a little more comfortable level

of free reserves during the coming weeks of peak seasonal

pressure than the low figures down to which we slid unintentionally over the past month. Certainly the improvement

appearing in our balance of payments statistics would seem

to preclude any contention that there exists a need for

further tightening on that ground alone.

On the other hand, I would not want to advocate any

overt easing of policy, at least until it is clear that

the developments now taking place in the price area have

no cumulative inflationary potential. It cost us a great

deal of effort and anguish to break the wage-price spiral

in this country five years ago, and that is a victory I

would dislike to see reversed. Consequently, my prescription

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would be for no change in either the consensus or the

directive today, apart from a recognition of the Treasury

financing.

Mr. Shepardson said that he thought the general outlook was

on the favorable side.

He was concerned, however, about what seemed

to him to be a continuing excessive buildup of credit and money that

could lead to increases in the price level, a development he was sure

the Committee did not favor.

As to policy, he thought that Treasury

financing activities precluded any change during the coming three weeks

He was concerned about the future but did not advocate any change in

policy at the present time.

Mr. Mitchell said that it seemed to him there had been a

dramatic improvement in the balance of payments situation.

The deficit

had declined from an annual rate of over $4 billion in the first half

of the year to $2-1/4 billion in the third quarter, despite a

substantial increase in foreign lending by U. S. banks.

He thought

further imprcvement was in prospect, because of the impact of grain

sales t, Russia and other Eastern European countries.

He did not believe

that the recent discount rate increase had very much to do with the

improvement, although it might have had some effect.

In Mr. Mitchell's opinion, the domestic economy was performing

well, and certainly better than he had expected earlier in the year.

Still, he thought the Committee was not making a dent in the long-run

problem, and until it did so he did not believe the Committee should

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abandon efforts to use monetary policy to achieve greater resource

utilization.

He thought the Committee was now coming into a fairly

significant period, since it had generated expectations in the capital

market of an increase in long-term interest rates.

Also, the expected

large increase in municipal offerings would come into the capital

market at a time when commercial banks had become less interested in

such securities.

This could mean only one thing--a rise in rates on

tax-exempt securities.

This struck him as unfortunate, since the

economy needed every source of strength that could be mustered.

Mr. Mitchell felt that the Desk had not done quite what the

Committee had wanted in the period since the last meeting.

He

appreciated that present money market circumstances had come about

partly as a result of erroneous estimates of factors affecting reserves.

He urged,

however, that technical work be undertaken to improve the

quality of the estimates on which the Desk relied.

He agreed with Mr.

Clay on policy for the next three weeks.

Mr. Hickman noted that the major series showed gains from the

second to the third quarters, even though the third quarter ended on a

somewhat subdued note.

Thus, the index of industrial production on

average was up 1.3 per cent from the second quarter, retail sales were

up 1.1 per cent despite a weak September showing, and gross national

product showed an unexpectedly large gain of 1-1/2 per cent.

What was now known about October's performance, Mr. Hickman

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-48He found reports of auto

said, indicated clear-cut forward movement.

sales particularly noteworthy, with the first 10 days of the month

establishing a new record for the period.

Largely as a result, total

retail sales, seasonally adjusted, thus far in October had been running

at a rate comparable to the record of last August.

Auto production

was expected to reach 800,000 units in October, for a considerably

larger than seasonal gain.

Steel output in the nation had risen

moderately for eight of the past nine weeks, but little change was

expected for the remainder of the year.

In the steel-consuming industries,

information from Fourth District machinery producers indicated a strong

order backlog, supplementing the most recent

national report indicating

a rise in new orders received by durable goods manufacturers.

Thus,

there were grounds for expecting that October would see a further rise

in the production index, following a temporary standstill in September.

Mr. Hickman said that develcpments

in the Fourth District

in some respects had not been quite sc favorable as in the nation as a

whole.

Steel output in the Cleveland-Lorain area, after having compared

favorably with U. S. rates

shown some tendency to lag.

for a considerable period, had recently

The unemployment claims

figures, which had

been improving markedly, had undergone a slight setback in most of the

District's labor market areas.

Auto sales in the Fourth District,

however, were sharing fully in the national upsweep, with Pittsburgh

figures especially strong.

Construction activity also appeared to be

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relatively strong in the District; in Cleveland, the year-to-date

volume of pernits by mid-September had topped the 12-month totals for

all previous years of record, due in part to urban renewal.

Mr. Hickman observed that changes in assets and liabilities

of all reporting banks in recent weeks had been dominated by Treasury

financing operations and by related changes in securities loans and in

the Treasury cash balance.

Looking behind the figures, however,

there

appeared to have been more than seasonal expansion in business loan

demand, a trend that was particularly observable in the Fourth District.

Required reserves held against private deposits were again

running disconcertingly ahead of the staff's guideline projection,

which was adjusted in late September in such a way as to lock in the

effects of the 4.3 per cent annual rate of expansion that had occurred

between May and July.

Successive projections at a 3 per cent rate had

been made with four different base periods beginning June 13, 1962,

despite several policy decisions by the Committee towards lesser ease.

At the time of each revision in the base, actual annual rates of

monetary expansion had been running in excess of projected rates.

Under the circumstances, Mr. Hickman felt that there was a real question

as to whether the staff guidelines were consistent with the intent of

the Committee.

Mr. Hickman indicated that he thought monetary policy in

recent weeks had, on the whole, worked out fairly well, with free

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reserves ranging well below $100 million.

With recent help from the

Treasury's strip of bills, the 91-day bill rate had moved close to

the discount rate, and international interest rate differentials had

moved favorably to the U. S.

He recommended encouragement of further

movement in these same directions;

free reserves should be allowed to

fluctuate around the zero level as soon as Treasury financing permitted.

Mr. Hickman concluded by saying the Desk wes to be commended for its

skill in a difficult period and particularly for conducting open market

operations in the short-term area.

Mr. Bopp said that weekly indicators, plus incomplete September

data, showed the Third District in a state of economic backing and

The year-end seasonal upswing in unemployment claims was just

filling

beginning; output was not strong in total, despite strength in steel

production; and sales in

department stores remained rather slow,

although they had exhibited strength enough to pull even with 1962.

The tightness evident at the last meeting of the Committee

increased at Third District commercial banks during the last three

weeks,Mr. Bopp said.

The basic reserve deficit of reserve city banks

was a little over $50 million on a weekly average basis.

This figure

had been exceeded on only six other occasions this year and only about

eight times in 1962.

also rose.

Country bank borrowing at the discount window

Business loans at weekly reporting member banks of the

Third District continued to display weakness, declining $5 million

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during the two weeks ending October 16.

Net loans adjusted fell by

$39 million and investments by $8 million.

Mr. Bopp said he would agree with

operations

for the next three weeks.

Messrs. Swan and Clay as to

He expressed concern that the

announcement on the day following this meeting of

Treasury planned

an

a financing operation that would not take place for three weeks.

He

felt that such a long lead time might, on occasion, unduly tie the

Committee's hands

with respect to policy changes.

Mr. Bryan said that what few new economic statistics were

available for the Sixth District were mainly in the financial area.

Bank debits, deposits and currency, and the money supply were all up

sharply.

business

He did

Loans and investments at member banks also were up, notably

loans, and borrowings

from the Federal Reserve Bank had risen.

not know what to make of the sharp increase in business loans

or the news .. f small bu. pervasive price increases.

a general price inflation,

buildup

These might portend

or they might simply reflect an inventory

Business sentiment seemed highly optimistic.

Mr. Bryan felt

that the Treasury financing precluded any change

in policy at this meeting.

He believed that the business situation

warranted careful watching, as indeed it always did.

seemed to be progressing satisfactorily.

The money supply

Liquid assets in the hands

of the public were continuing their nearly vertical climb.

Required

reserves continued substantially above the staff's guidelines, even

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as amended.

He saw no reason to change the discount rate at this

time nor to change the Committee's policy.

If there was any policy

change, however, he felt it should be in the direction of zero free

reserves, with the thought in mind that even zero free reserves can

finance inflation.

Mr. Bryan said that, if at all possible, the next move in the

discount rate should be premeditated and not determined by expectational

forces in the market.

He shared Mr. Hickman's views about the staff

reserve projections, but did not take the matter too seriously.

Mr. Shuford said that since the first of the year economic

activity in the Eighth District had generally paralleled that of the

country as a whole.

During the first part of the year the District

had had a marked expansion, and since mid-year business had expanded

only moderately.

Employment in the District's major labor markets and

the volume of bank debits had both been unchanged since June, and

department store sales had drifted lower since May.

On the other hand,

industrial use of electric power, business loans at reporting banks,

and bank deposits had all continued to expand.

Member bank borrowings

from the Federal Reserve Bank had not been large this fall.

While

there was a lack of moisture in the District this year, agricultural

production for the District as a whole probably would exceed that of

last year by a significant margin.

As to policy, Mr. Shuford said that he would favor no change,

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particularly in view of the Treasury financing.

in terms of any particular level of free reserves; he thought reserves

and other measures such as money supply were more meaningful.

term rates should fluctuate around 3.45 per cent.

Short-

He thought the policy

the Committee had been following was reasonably satisfactory under the

circumstances.

Short-term rates had moved up to a 3.45 level and then

gone higher but had dropped back down to 3.48.

able and reasonable growth in the economy.

There had been sustain-

The Committee's interest

in providing reserves had facilitated a desirable continuing monetary

expansion.

He was alert to the situation that seemed to be developing

with respect to prices.

He did not feel that the growth in liquidity

had been excessive, but both of these areas deserved close watching.

He would make no change in policy, and would not change the directive

except to recgnize the Treasury financing.

Mr. Balderston said he was gratified by the elimination of the

differential between U. S. bill rates and those of Canada and England.

He noted, however, that rates on commercial paper in both countries

were higher than in the U. S. He was encouraged by the balance of

payments projections for the fourth quarter, but doubted that the

improvement in the balance of payments for the year as a whole would

be adequate to satisfy the nation's creditors.

He shared with Mr.

Robertson and Mr. Bryan their concern about recent price behavior,

and was worried that the liquidity that had been made available was

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being misapplied in the stock market and elsewhere.

Over the past

year, he noted, available reserves had risen by over $800 million

and nonborrowed reserves by over $500 million.

He felt the Committee

might have built up an inflationary potential that was greater than

current price movements had indicated.

Mr. Balderston concluded by

saying that, in view of the Treasury financing, he favored no change

in policy at this time.

Chairman Martin said he had nothing to add to the observations

that had already been made.

He thought that it was easier to formulate

the consensus at this meeting than at any in a long time; the Committee

clearly favored no change in policy.

He felt that the only problem

concerned the wording of the current policy directive.

Mr. Young had

some alternative variants for both paragraphs of the directive which

the Committee might like to consider.

In discussing the various alternatives proposed for the first

paragraph, Mr. Young said that the first involved no change, and the

second a modest change affecting the first sentence.

The proposed new

first sentence put emphasis "on maintaining conditions in the money

market that would contribute to continued improvement in the capital

account of the U. S. balance of payments."

Suggestions had also been

received for recasting the first paragraph as a whole to update the

language, and an attempt had been made to do so in the third alternative.

With respect to the second paragraph, Mr. Young noted that the

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first alternative differed from the one issued at the previous meeting

only by the addition of a reference to the imminent Treasury financing,

and continued to call for operations to be conducted with "a view to

maintaining the prevailing degree of firmness in the money market...."

The second alternative also included the Treasury financing reference,

but substituted the wording "the degree of firmness in the money market

that has prevailed in recent weeks" for the earlier wording.

In the course of the discussion, it became evident that the

Committee unanimously favored the third of the proposed alternatives

for the first paragraph.

It was agreed that the change in language was

intended simply to reflect recent developments in the domestic economy

and in the balance of payments and not to signify any change in policy.

There were differences of views, however, as to which of the

two proposed alternatives for the second paragraph better reflected the

Committee's consensus for no change in policy.

Mr. Mitchell expressed

a preference for the second alternative, on grounds of both substance

and degree of clarity.

He felt that the word "prevailing" by itself

could mean either prevailing in recent weeks or at the time of this

meeting, and since he believed the former was the Committee's intent,

he considered it desirable to be explicit on the point.

Messrs. Hayes

and Shepardson spoke in favor of the first alternative.

Mr. Hayes found

the phrase "in recent weeks" ambiguous since the number of weeks was

not .specified.

If taken to mean the last three weeks, he thought the

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substance of the second alternative was the same as the first; but

if taken to apply to a longer period, he felt it would imply that

the Committee wanted to back off from the degree of firmness that had

been achieved, and he did not think this was the case.

Mr. Shepardson

said the word "prevailing" was perfectly explicit to him; it meant

prevailing at the time of the meeting.

Chairman Martin observed that, while others might feel

differently, to his mind there was no substantive difference between

the alternatives.

The problem, as he saw it, was a semantic one of

a type the Committee had to struggle with continually.

He suggested

that the Committee members be polled on their preference, on the

assumption that the two alternatives were substantially equivalent in

meaning.

The results of the poll indicated that a majority preferred

the second alternative.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee, to

execute transactions in the System Account

in accordance with the following current

economic policy directive:

It is the Federal Open Market Committee's current policy

to accommodate moderate growth in bank credit, while maintaining conditions in the money market that would contribute

to continued improvement in the capital account of the U. S.

balance of payments. This policy takes into consideration

the fact that domestic economic activity is expanding

further, although with a margin of underutilized resources;

and the fact that the balance of payments position is still

It also

adverse despite a tendency to reduced deficits.

recognizes the increases in bank credit, money supply, and

the reserve base of recent months.

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To implement this policy, and taking into account the

imminent Treasury refinancing, System open market operations

shall be conducted with a view to maintaining the degree of

firmness in the money market that has prevailed in recent

weeks, while accommodating moderate expansion in aggregate

bank reserves.

Votes for this action: Messrs. Martin,

Hayes, Balderston, Bopp, Clay, Mills,

Mitchell, Robertson, Scanlon, Shepardson,

and Shuford. Votes against this action:

None.

Chairman Martin noted the Account Manager's earlier suggestion

that the continuing authority directive be left unchanged for another

three weeks with respect to the limitation of $1.5 billion for changes

in the aggregate amount of U. S. Government securities held in the

System Open Market Account during any period between meetings

Committee.

of the

No objection was made to leaving this directive unchanged.

The Chairman suggested that in view of the lateness of the

hour the Committee once again hold over until the next meeting its

discussion of the memorandum on the question of making available

minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee for some past period

for use of scholars and others, and there was no objection.

At this point there were distributed copies of a list of

possible dates for meetings of the Committee through 1964 for

consideration by the members of the Committee.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on November 12, 1963.

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-58The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

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