fomc minutes · February 10, 1964

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the

offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in

Washington on Tuesday,

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

February 11,

1964, at 9:30 a.m.

Martin, Chairman

Balderston

Bopp

Clay

Daane

Irons

Mills

Mitchell

Robertson

Scanlon

Shepardson

Treiber, Alternate for Mr. Hayes

Messrs. Hickman, Wayne, and Shuford, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Ellis, Bryan, and Deming, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, Atlanta,

and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Young, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel

Mr. Noyes, Economist

Messrs. Baughman, Brill, Eastburn, Garvy,

Green, Holland, Koch, and Tow, Associate

Economists

Mr. Stone, Manager, System Open Market Account

Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of Governors

Fauver, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Broida, Assistant Secretary, Board of Governors

Wood, Associate Adviser, Division of Inter

national Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Axilrod, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics,

Board of Governors

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

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Mr. Hemmings, First Vice President,

Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco

Messrs. Sanford, Mann, Ratchford, Jones, and

Parsons, Vice Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of New York, Cleveland,

Richmond, St. Louis, and Minneapolis,

respectively

Mr. Sternlight, Assistant Vice President,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Brandt, Assistant Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of Atlanta

Mr. Anderson, Financial Economist, Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston

Mr. Runyon, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of San Francisco

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the System Open

Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market

Account and Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the period

January 28 through February 5, 1964, and a supplementary report covering

the period February 6 through February 10, 1964.

Copies of these reports

have been placed in the files of the Committee.

Supplementing the written reports, Mr. Sanford commented that gold

sales of at least $52 million were expected over the rest of the month,

and with only $48 million in the Stabilization Fund, the Treasury was

transferring $50 million from the gold stock to the Fund today.

The

Russians remained out of the gold market and private demand in the London

gold market, while unspectacular, had until the last two days been large

enough to absorb all new production coming onto the market.

The United

States received $23.4 million as a distribution from the gold pool.

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(OnThursday,

the day when the gold stock reduction would be

released to the press, the Treasury would be making the anticipated first

drawing on the International Monetary Fund under the $500 million standby

arrangement announced last July as part of President Kennedy's balance

of payments package.

The drawing would total $125 million, and it would

be publicly announced.

As the Committee would recall, Mr. Sanford continued,

the standby

arrangemeat was made to meet the problem that arises when the Fund cannot

accept dollars in repayment of foreign countries' repurchase obligations

(because its dollar holdings would exceed 75 per cent of the U. S. quota).

By drawing foreign currencies from the fund and selling them to those

members making repayments to the Fund, the chance was reduced of their

coming to the U. S. for gold to effect such repurchases.

The $125 million

of foreign currencies that the U. S. would be drawing was expected to be

sufficient to match foreign countries' repayments to the Fund through

the end of April.

The largest repurchase now scheduled was one of $60

million equivalent by Canada, which would be announced at about the same

time as the U. S. drawing.

Except for the German mark at the end of last week, Mr.

Sanford

observed, the foreign exchange markets had been fairly quiet during the

past two weeks, with no particular pressure on the dollar.

For almost

two weeks until last Wednesday the strength of the German mark had

temporarily abated,

reflecting mainly the calming effects of the German

Federal Bank's announcement on January 23 that it was not contemplating

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any new measures to deal with the German payments surplus.

Last Thursday

and Friday, however, the demand for marks again increased to the point

where the German Federal Bank had to intervene.

So far, the German authori

ties had felt able to hold for their own account the dollars they had

picked up in the market, having in mind the reduction in their dollar

holdings early in January when the German commercial banks had reversed

their year-end window dressing operations.

Nevertheless, with the

possibility of a revival of speculation on mark revaluation and the

prospect of a seasonal tightening of the German money market in March,

the System might have to face the necessity of making fresh drawings on

its mark swap to mop up part of Germany's dollar intake.

The Swiss franc market had retained the moderate ease it developed

following the Swiss Government's announcemen.s of proposed measures to

curb the inflow of funds from abroad and to restrain the Swiss boom.

However, the Swiss franc had not yet moved very far from the ceiling

but with some further easing the System might be able to acquire some

francs for the purpose of starting to repay its Swiss franc commitments.

Today the Swiss franc was quoted at 4.323 to the dollar, as compared with

the effective ceiling of 4.3150.

The liquidation of the System's guilder swap drawing had slowed

down in this period, as the decline in the guilder rate and the Nether

lands Bank's sales of dollars in the market came to a halt.

The Account

had been able to purchase only $4 million of guilders from the Netherlands

Bank over and above the amount reported at the last meeting, and using

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$1 million of its guilder balances, it reduced the swap drawing to $45

million from $50 million.

The Italian lira continued under pressure.

During January the Bank

of Italy had lost about $250 million, mainly reflecting large repayments of

foreign indebtedness by Italian commercial banks.

Italy's reserve decline

was being cushioned by the second $50 million drawing on the System swap

(mentioned at the last meeting) and by the purchase by the System of

another $50 million lire which the System had sold forward to the Treas

ury.

The Italians might be expected to need further assistance before

too long, as the Bank of Italy had cashed in one-half of the U. S.

Government certificates from the last drawing.

The recently-formed

Italian Government could ill afford the development of even a semblance

of a speculative crisis, in view of the delicate political situation.

Meanwhile, they were proceeding to reduce bank liquidity, both at home

and abroad.

Sterling still had not shown the strength it usually exhibited at

this time of the year.

widened slightly.

The discount on forward sterling, moreover, had

The possibility that the markets might be beginning

to react to the forthcoming British elections seemed to be getting stronger.

The British Treasury bill rate had edged up in the last two weeks, but the

widening of the discount on sterling had more than offset this increase.

The covered arbitrage differential in terms of Treasury bills was now about

1/4 of 1 per cent in favor of New York.

The differential in terms of

other instruments--such as finance paper--remained slightly in favor of

London, but selected banks reported that no funds were moving.

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At: the request of the Chairman,

Mr. Sanford summarized Open Market

Account operations in foreign currencies during the period January 28

through February 10.

Operations which had been for value within this

particular period, he said, were as follows:

(1) the Bank of Italy drew

$50 million under the $250 million swap arrangement with the System,

thus

making its outstanding drawings $100 million, (2) the Federal Reserve

bought from the Bank of Italy a second $50 million of lire

and immedi

ately sold the lire for three-month forward delivery to the U. S. Treasury,

bringing the tctal for this type of operation to $100 million; (3) the

Bank of Italy had renewed for another three months its maturing $50

million swap drawing from the System, this being the first renewal;

(4) the System reduced its swap drawing from the Netherlands Bank by

$5 million to $45 million, using $4 million of guilders bought from the

Netherlands Bank and $1 million from its balances; (5) the System paid

off at maturity the remaining $5.5 million of outstanding drawings on the

Bank of France, by use of francs previously bought forward, and the swap

arrangement with the Bank of France was now completely on a standby basis;

(6) a maturing $30 million swap drawing on the Swiss National Bank was

rolled over for three months, this being the first renewal of that drawing;

and (7) the swap arrangements with the Bank of Japan of $150 million, with

the Bank of France of $100 million, and with the German Federal Bank of

$250 million were all extended for three months.

Mr. Robertson asked whether the transaction in which the Account

had acquired lire and sold them forward to the Treasury was undertaken at

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the Treasury's request, and Mr. Sanford replied that the transaction was

made in cooperation with the Treasury.

The Lire would be used ultimately

to repay the Treasury's outstanding lira-denominated bonds.

In response to questions by Mr. Mitchell, Mr. Sanford reported

that Italy held about $200 million equivalent in lira-denominated U. S.

Treasury bonds, and that the System had sold forward to the Treasury $100

million equivalent of lira.

The Italians had drawn $100 million on the

swap with the System, of which they had disbursed all but $25 million.

Mr. Daane asked what public announcements were planned of the

prospective U. S. drawing from the IMF and what reaction to the drawing

might be expected.

Mr. Sanford replied that a press release on Thursday of this week

would explain that the drawing was a technical matter related to the

announcement last July of the $500 million standby arrangement.

The

Canadians would be announcing the repayment of their debt to the Fund at

about the same time.

He would expect the foreign reaction to be favorable,

as it was last July.

Mr. Mills asked whether the purpose of the debt to the Fund that

the United States was assuming was to accommodate Canada and the Fund,

and Mr. Sanford replied that in his judgment its purpose was to accommodate

the U. S. In the alternative, a country desiring to make a repayment to

the Fund might buy gold from this country, and the object was to avoid such

gold losses.

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Mr. Mills then asked whether it

oversimplified the matter to say

that countries that would otherwise be obliged to draw on the U. S

stock in

order to make payments in

tion in dollars,

so that the U. S.

gold to the Fund were in

gold

a surplus posi

was accommodating both them and itself.

Would that lead to a tendency among foreign countries to reduce their

holdings of dollars by compelling the U. S.

Fund in

to draw increasingly on the

this kind of arrangement?

In

response, Mr. Sanford said that while it

to our advantage to draw in

would appear to be

order to avoid gold losses, such drawings

would be well within our control.

Mr. Daane added that the arrangement

was linked to debt repayments; countries could not arbitrarily pay sums

into the Fund when they had no debt to the Fund.

Chairman Martin emphasized that all aspects of the proposed

U. S.

drawing from the Fund were confidential

and should be so treated

by persons in the room.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote, the System

Open Market Account transactions in foreign

currencies during the period from January 28

through February 10, 1964, were approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

Mr.

Sanford stated that he had no recommendations to place before

the Committee for consideration at this meeting.

Chairman Martin observed that what probably were the most important

financial negotiations of the current period were now being conducted by

deputies of the "Group of Ten," who had been meeting periodically since

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the Bank and Fund meetings in Washington last autumn.

He noted that

Mr. Daane had participated in these discussions at their outset as a repre

sentative of the Treasury Department, and was continuing to participate as

a representative of the Federal Reserve.

countries also were represented.

Central banks of the other

The Chairman invited Mr. Daane to comment

on the status of the discussions.

Mr. Daane said that the most recent meeting of the group was held

in Paris on Jaruary 24, 25, and 27.

This meeting, like the earlier ones

on which he had reported to the Committee in December, was exploratory, and

was marked by frank expressions of individual views.

In one session, led

by Mr. Polak, there was extensive discussion of papers that had been sub

mitted by the Fund on (1) the role of the Fund in the provision of

international liquidity, (2) drawings on the gold tranche, and (3) the

role of gold.

In another session two papers presented by the OECD were

considered, on the need for reserves and for international credit

arrangements, and on the contribution of the long-term capital markets

to the adjustment process.

A third session, Mr. Daane continued, was concerned with three

papers by the BIS, which Mr. Gilbert presented.

One of these was an

interesting paper On the Euro-dollar market which was quite favorable

to that market.

It concluded with the following statement:

The Euro-dollar market is today a substantial source of

international credit. It brings many lenders and borrowers

together on more favorable terms to both, and therefore more

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efficiently, than would otherwise be the case. Moreover, the

impetus towards equalization of money rates which it has given

has been useful, not only to individual lenders and borrowers,

but in the broader context of international monetary equilib

rium. Some observers have stressed certain adverse consequences

which the market may have and it would seem that these

observations have their element of truth. From the standpoint

of official policy, however, it does not seem that the possible

dangers of Euro-currency credit are of a different order from

those of other movements of short-term funds. Maybe, because

of its efficiency, the Euro-currency market has an exceptional

potential for expansion which may create a special problem for

monetary authorities in the future; but so far this does not

seem to have been the case and on the whole it appears clear

that the market has served a useful purpose.

Mr. Daane said that he and one or two others had challenged the favorable

flavor of these conclusions.

The second paper was largely descriptive,

and concerned short-term arrangements between central banks and monetary

authorities.

The third paper dealt with laws and government regulations

covering monetary reserves and private uses of gold.

One questionable

aspect of this paper was an interpretation that the System would be unable

to acquire an adequate stock of foreign currencies because of the re

quirement for a 25 per cent gold cover on Federal Reserve liabilities.

One-half of a day also was taken for discussion of proposals for a

composite reserve unit.

The French views were elaborated further, but

there was some change in focus by the French representatives, who now

clearly placed schemes of this sort in a more futuristic context, rather

than describing them as something for today or tomorrow.

Another meeting of the same exploratory type would be held at the

end of February, Mr. Daane continued, to discuss (1) papers that the

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participating countries had been invited to submit on the issues that in

their judgment should be covered in

Fund; (2)

the report to be presented to the

a joint United States-United Kingdom paper on the role of re

serve currencies and the consequences for the international payments

system of partial or total displacement of reserve currencies; and (3) a

wide-ranging paper by Dr. Emminger of the German Federal Bank on the

various radical reform proposals that had been advanced.

A 10-day negotiating session was to be held in Washington during

April,

in preparation for which the U.

position.

S. would have to determine its

This would be a Government position, to he developed by an

intra-Governmental group--the so-called "ong-Range

International Pay

ments Committee"--on which representatives of both the Board and the New

York Bank sat in technical advisory capacities.

The final U.

ment position would be cleared at the top level of Government,

S.

in

Govern

dis

cussions at which the System presumably would be represented by the Chairman.

There would be another session, possibly in May, to translate the April

negotiations into a preliminary report to the June meeting of Ministers.

The final report, Mr. Daane said, was to be made at the Tokyo meeting

of the Fund in September.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members of

the Committee a report from the Manager of the System Open Market Account

covering open market operations in U. S. Government securities and

bankers'

acceptances for the period January 28 through February 10,

A copy of this report has been placed in

the files of the Committee.

1964.

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Mr. Stone commented as

follows:

We have faced some rather interesting problems in conduct

ing open market operations recently. During the past few weeks

there has occurred the customary seasonal reduction in credit use

that is the other side of the seasonal rise in December. The

sharp seasonal increase in credit use in December of course upset

the rough relationship that emerged earlier between free reserves

of around $100 million on the one hand and the market tone and

feel sought by the Committee on the other. Given the seasonal

spurt in credit use, that tone and feel, and that free reserve

level, could not occur together; they were no longer compatible.

Since we could not maintain both the same feel and the same free

reserve figures as earlier, we interpreted the directive as

instructing us to maintain a steady feel. This meant permitting

the free reserve figure to ride up to some extent while the use

of credit was rising and was at its peak. Conducting operations

with precise symmetry during the past few weeks of seasonal

decline in credit use would have involved permitting the free

reserve figure to ride down as far as necessary in order to

maintain the kind of market conditions that prevailed in December

and earlier. The difficulty with that approach, however, is

that, in my view, it might very well have involved the publica

tion of negative free reserve figures in one, or perhaps two,

recent statement weeks. The Treasury, of course, has been in the

market almost continuously for the past five weeks, and to have

published a net borrowed reserve figure at any time during that

period would have done injury td one or both of the major

financing operations in which the Treasury was engaged. Such a

result would hardly have been consistent with the maintenance

of an even keel. We therefore frequently found ourselves on a

tightrope during the recent period. A few more reserves might

on occasion have produced significantly easier market condi

tions; at the same time, however, nad somewhat fewer reserves

been injected, we might have found ourselves publishing net

borrowed reserves. The end result of our tightrope walking has

been a money market that was rather steadily firm but with a

smaller margin of unsatisfied demands for reserves that had to

be met at the discount window. Thus, while the Federal funds

rate was 3-1/2 per cent each day, member bank borrowings have

recently averaged around $150 to $250 million, rather than the

general $300-$400 million range that had prevailed earlier. The

free reserve figures, meanwhile, have been subject to rather

sizable retroactive upward revisions.

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During the past few days a closer relationship between the

market atmosphere and the reserve statistics appears to have

been reasserted--as one would expect to happen as the seasonal

decline in credit use approaches an end.

Turning briefly to the market, the Treasury's February re

funding operation, announced two days after the last meeting,

was given a favorable but quite uneventful reception by the

market. Perhaps the most noteworthy feature of the financing

was the $1.8 billion of subscriptions the Treasury received for

the reopened 4 per cent notes of 1966. That issue was priced

at par to yield 4 per cent--only 4 basis points above the yield

on the 3-7/8 per cent notes, which mature a year earlier. By

providing investors the alternative of the 1966 issue, the

Treasury obtained some very inexpensive debt extension.

The refunding took place against the background of a Treas

ury bond market that was moving up in price, partly in reflec

tion of Treasury comments concerning long rates over the rest

of the year. There also appears to have been some diversion of

funds from corporate to Treasury bonds in view of the relatively

narrow spread that has developed between yields on these

obligations. The market is not altogether confident of current

price levels, however; and yesterday, when a market letter dis

cussed the possibility of some move in monetary policy over the

next few weeks, there were signs of restiveness on the part of

some dealers with sizable holdings of bonds acquired in the

recent advance refunding.

Following this statement, Mr. Stone indicated that current reserve

projections suggested that it might be appropriate to return the limita

tion on changes in the aggregate amount of U. S. Government securities

held in the System Open Market Account between meetings of the Committee

to $1 billion from the $1.5 billion that had recently prevailed.

Mr. Mills said he would like to direct a broad question not so

much to Mr. Stone as to the Committee.

Mr. Stone's discussion had

brought out the fact that an even keel policy devoted to giving back

ground assistance to Treasury financing had been followed recently, as

was customary in similar situations.

The presumption was that, if it

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had not been for the Treasury financing,

permitted to fall

free reserves would have been

to a much lower level--in fact, to a negative position-

despite the fact that the short-term rate structure had not changed

appreciably.

The question in his mind was whether the loyalty of the

Committee and the System to the Treasury should outrank the allegiance

owed to the general market, where over a protracted period there had been a

level of positive free reserves of quite substantial size.

If, when the

Treasury's need for assistance had passed, the Committee should proceed

to shrink the level of reserves rather materially, it

would be going in

the face of what the market could reasonably have expected to have been

the trend in policy.

If that should be the future course of events, it

was possible that the market would develop a cynicism and skepticism

about the good faith of the System that, instead of benefiting the Treas

ury, might harm their future financing programs.

Mr.

Stone commented that, as he had indicated in his statement,

there had appeared to be a closer relationship over the past three or

four days between the market atmosphere, on the one hand, and the reserve

statistics on the other.

This was to be expected as the end of the

seasonal decline in credit use approached.

During the latter part of

January, in particular, there had been a substantial decline in bank

credit.

As bank loans were repaid, banks in turn repaid discounts and

made their excess reserves available in the Federal funds market, and

the market generally had an easier tone.

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Mr. Daane observed that there had been substantial upward revi

sions in prelininary free reserve figures in recent weeks, and Mr. Stone

noted that such revisions had occurred in

every week since the first of

the year.

Mr. Mitchell commented that at the previous meeting of the Com

mittee there had been a discussion of the desirability of letting

signals come through from the market, but he noted that there had been

only a 3-point fluctuation in the bill rate since then.

In response, Mr. Stone said that in the discussion at the previous

meeting he had tried to indicate the variety of reasons for the recent

narrow range of movements in the bill rate.

been conditioned to narrower movements.

One was that the market had

Beyond that, and perhaps as

important collectively, were recent structural changes in the market.

For

these reasons the bill rate no longer provided the kind of signals it

previously gave, and fluctuations probably would continue to be smaller

than in the past.

However, Mr. Stone said, the Desk was not without sensitive signals,

of which the performance of the Federal funds market was perhaps the most

sensitive.

Recently, the Federal funds rate had stayed at or close to

the discount rate.

But over the past year and a half, the Desk had developed

a new network of contacts that disclosed what was happening with respect

to the volume of flows behind the relatively fixed Federal funds rate.

Through the course of each day the Desk had information on the depth of

bidding for Federal funds, and on the size of the supply of excess reserves

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available to the funds market; and it got confirmation of the impressions

obtained from this information after the close each day from figures on

funds transactions in the New York market that day.

Figures on member bank

borrowing which became accessible the next morning provided additional

confirmation.

The dealer lending rates posted by New York and out-of-town

banks, and evidence on the ease or difficulty encountered by dealers in

their efforts to get credit, also provided useful clues to market condi

tions.

The indicators on which the Desk relied were more subtle than

previously, but nevertheless were sensitive and useful.

Mr. Mitchell commented th.t such information might be very useful

to the Desk, but the problem remained of how the Desk could tell what

objectives the Committee wanted it to pursue.

Mr. Stone had implied that

his instructions were to keep the Federal funds rate at the discount rate,

to keep the morey market firm, and to keep free reserves at about $100

million.

But these instructions were inconsistent by his own test, and

he had to choose among them.

The Committee, Mr. Mitchell said, should

state what it wanted the Desk to do, and should not tell the Account

Manager to make decisions for the Committee.

Nor should the Desk use

standards and guides that the Committee was not posted on.

Mr. Stone replied that the implication he had intended in his

comment was that the market atmosphere and the free reserve figures pre

vailing before December were not compatible during December and January

when there were sharp changes in the rate at which reserves were being

utilized, but that the earlier relationship was now being re-established.

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In his judgment,

the Committee had made clear where it

wanted the Desk to

put the emphasis; the directive called for "maintaining about the same

conditions in the money market as have prevailed in recent weeks."

This

instruction referred to market atmosphere.

Mr. Mitchell said that in following the criterion of market

stability--and he agreed with Mr. Stone that that was about what the

Committee had voted to instruct the Desk to do--the Desk in effect had

given the Committee a small fluctuation in rate.

If,

because of struc

tural changes in the market, small fluctuations should be expected to

persist, it seemed to him that the Committee needed current intelligence

on some of the measures available to the Desk.

Mr. Daane commented that the measures in question, specifically,

the rates on and flows of Federal funds, were reported every morning in

the 11 o'clock call.

He personally decried interest rate rigidity, Mr.

Daane continued, but since the last meeting he had talked with some lead

ing dealers and had read Mr. Stone's statements in the minutes of that

meeting.

He thought Mr. Stone's analysis was correct.

A major factor

holding the bill rate within a narrow range was the development of the

certificate of deposit market, and as long as that market functioned as

at present, the bill rate probably would fluctuate within narrower limits.

In another comment, Mr. Daane said he thought it incorrect to

pose the choice facing the Committee as between formulating policy in

terms of a rigid bill rate or in terms of a reserve target.

Both were

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wrong; it

was necessary for the Desk to have some flexibility in

translate the feel of the Committee's wishes.

trying to

The Desk had done that in

a difficult period over the past two weeks.

Mr.

Bopp observed that Mr. Stone got a general notion of the

Committee's desires out of discussion around the table.

members could not act as technicians, he said.

The Committee

The Account Manager had

to have a degree of flexibility, and the Committee had to trust in the

Account Manager's judgment.

To Mr. Robertson's question of whether the Federal funds rate

was more sensitive than the bill rate, Mr. Stone replied that both were

relatively fixed.

When these rates were moving, the rapidity of their

movements was a useful indicator; but when they were not moving, the

volume of flows, the depth of demand, and the supplies of Federal funds

constituted highly useful indicators.

He added that the Desk was still

learning how best to use information of these types.

Mr. Balderston asked what the Desk would do if the Committee came

to the conclusion that the bill rate should fluctuate more than it had

recently, and Mr. Stone replied that it would be extremely difficult to

achieve that result.

He noted that in the week before the last the

Account had bought over $1/2 billion of bills in the market, and the rate

had moved down only 1 or 2 basis points.

About the only way the System

could get the bill rate to move significantly--even by 5 or 10 basis

points--would be to take some action indicating to the market that System

policy was changing, such as raising the discount rate or publishing zero

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or net borrowed reserve figures for two or three weeks in a row.

Such

actions would change the level of rates, but would not necessarily result

in a larger amolitude of fluctuation.

He would not want to state

categorically that gradual movements in rates were no longer possible,

but it was true that large fluctuations were not likely.

Mr. Daane commented that, as he interpreted Mr. Stone's position,

bill rate fluctuations were likely to be narrower than they had been in

earlier periods, but could be wider than they had been during the past

several weeks.

Chairman Martin observed that he thought the problem under dis

cussion reflected the Committee's decision to deal in all sectors of the

market,

thus departing from the so-called "bills only" policy.

The Com

mittee had decided to change its policy in this regard for the sake of

the advantages it thought would result.

The Committee had discussed the

matter for a long time, and had been aware cf the likely consequences of

its decision.

In his judgment no purpose would be served by retracing

those steps.

Mr. Stone said he would like to reiterate a point he had made at

the last meeting:

the bill market was not faltering; it was a broad,

active, strong market.

In a recent go-around in which the Desk had

solicited offers of Treasury bills, dealers had offered a total of $1,083

million of bills at existing market quotations.

changes in the whole network of markets that had

There had been structural

had the effect of reducing

the amplitude of rate changes, but the bill market itself was an excellent

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That was why it

had been able to accommodate

the pressures for

structural charges that had been impinging upon it.

Mr. Hickman commented that in the recent period free reserve

figures had fluctuated erratically, and the bill

rate had been sticky

because of the structural changes Mr. Stone had mentioned.

But figures

on borrowed reserves had worked pretty well as an indicator in the past

month and a half; when they were high, there was a tight feeling in the

market.

These figures might not always work as well as they had in this

period, but perhaps their usefulness was worth further study.

Chairman Martin commented that there were various aspects to the

idea of "depth, breadth, and resiliency."

There was no doubt in his

mind but that a "bills only" policy produced more depth, breadth, and

resiliency in the market, particularly for longer term issues.

But he

also thought it would not be possible, under a "bills only" policy, to

get results as effectively and efficiently in terms of managing the money

market as were obtainable under the Committee's present method of opera

tion.

Mr. Deming observed that free reserve figures were a less perfect

guide in January and December than at other times of the year.

This was

partly because of imperfect seasonals, and partly because there was more

churning in the market at that time.

This fact, coupled with the Treasury

financings this year, and with the series of upward revisions in the free

reserve figures,

guide recently.

had made free reserves a virtually useless primary

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-21Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote, the open

market transactions in Government securities

and bankers' acceptances during the period

January 28 through February 10, 1964, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Chairman Martin then called for the staff economic and financial

reports, supplementing the written reports that had been distributed

prior to the meeting, copies of which have been placed in the files of

the Committee.

Mr. Noyes commented on economic conditions as follows:

Early agreement on the tax bill now seems a virtual cer

tainty. The Treasury has successfully completed its current

financing program, We have in hand the results of the new

McGraw-Hill plant and equipment expenditure survey. A basic

reappraisal of the appropriateness of the current posture of

monetary policy in the light of these developments would seem

to be indicated.

With this in mind, I have reviewed the economic develop

ments of recent weeks as carefully as I could to see if I

could find in them any clues which would help evaluate the

current posture of policy, or suggest that either greater or

lesser ease would help contribute to the achievement of the

broad goals of economic policy. My conclusion is that it is

hard to fault monetary policy or the performance of the economy

in either direction.

It is still true, as we are constartly reminded, that unem

ployment remains in the unacceptably high 5-1/2 per cent range.

But we did get a gain in seasonally adjusted employment in

January. In fact, most of the data that have become available

seem to have moved in the "right" direction. That is, figures

that seemed unreasonably high or low have changed down and up,

respectively. December retail sales are an example, on one

hand, and capital expenditure plans on the other. Industrial

production, which has lagged since the middle of last year,

appears to be picking up a little. Bank credit expansion, to

borrow an example from the financial area, moderated in January

after a period of rather vigorous growth. In these few weeks,

at any rate, most of the movements have not only been in the

direction, but very nearly of the magnitude that one might have

hoped, had he specified his wishes in advance.

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-22Perhaps a further word about: the 9 per cent increase in plant

and equipment spending in 1964 reported in the McGraw-Hill survey

is in order in this connection. In my judgment, this is not an

alarmingly high figure, but one more nearly in line with other

observed developments in the economy and estimates of the future.

Sensibly interpreted, it should not result in any higher estimates

of business borrowing than were already contemplated. It is just

about consistent with the Council of Economic Advisers GNP pro.

jection for the year, and with the forecasts of many business

economists and financial analysts. Financial markets seem to

have interpreted it in this way.

I find the subject of price developments most difficult,

primarily because I have very little confidence in my own

judgment in this area. I can plead in my defense, I think,

that recent developments have been without precedent in the

post-war period and may well be unique in this century. We are

about to enter the fourth year of rather vigorous recovery and

expansion with wholesale prices still at about the same levels

that prevailed in the preceding recession. Beyond this, profit

margins, far from being squeezed, seem to have improved a little,

if anything. Thus, we find ourselves in a situation in which

the experience of this generation, at least, is not of much help

to us. There are some good reasons why we might expect upward

price pressures in the year ahead, but they are not very dif

ferent from the reasons why we might have expected such price

developments in 1961, 1962, or 1963. It is hard to conclude

that price movements of the last year, taken as a whole, or of

recent weeks, can be fairly characterized as inflationary, nor

is there a basis for forecasting, with any more certainty than

one might have felt a year ago or two years ago, that a truly

inflationary situation will emerge in the period ahead. Con

ventional cyclical analysis would have called for rising unit

costs, impingement on profit margins and upward pressures on

prices, in all but the very early stages of the recovery.

Recent experience has not conformed to this pattern.

The big difference this year is that the economy will

receive the additional stimulus of a large reduction in Federal

taxes. This may provide just the additional stimulus needed to

achieve a somewhat higher level of resource utilization without

generating inflationary pressures; or it may create an excess

of aggregate demand, putting prices under strong upward pressure;

or finally, it conceivably could fail in its intended pur

pose and add very little to either consumer purchases or

business spending.

In the absence of the uncertainties surrounding the impact

of the tax cut, one could make a very strong case, I think, that

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the present posture of monetary policy is appropriate to the

needs of the domestic economy. In the light of these uncertain

ties, one can only conclude that it may not be, but that the

nature and degree of change needed, if any, depends heavily on

one's guess as to the timing and magnitude of the impact of the

tax cut on aggregate demand. It takes more confidence than I

have in our measurement of multipliers and accelerators to

predict that impact with assurance.

In the discussion following Mr. Noyes' statement, it was brought

out that the latest McGraw-Hill survey indicated a gradual upward move

ment in plant and equipment expenditures over the successive quarters

of 1964.

Mr. Holland made the following statement with regard to the

financial situation:

The developments that have occurred since the last meeting

of this Committee confirm the calmer financial performance that

has followed the sharp year-end bulges in activity. Even the

stock market, in advancing to new highs, has done so by means

of fairly orderly and moderate moves, considering the rapidly

improving likelihood of an early tax cut. Long-term debt mar

kets have been firmer, with most rates declining slightly on

balance. Short-term rates have moved narrowly around the

levels reached late in December.

Our latest figures show that bank loans and investments

declined by about one-half billion dollars more than usual in

January, in sharp contrast to mucn stronger than seasonal

increases in the last two months of 1963. Most loan categories

showed only moderate January increases, seasonally adjusted,

apart front a bulge in securities loans associated chiefly with

Treasury financings. To make room for such loan expansion,

banks returned to the position of being large net sellers of

Government securities, chiefly shorter terms. Meanwhile, the

average money supply has been boosted by a large year-end run

up that has not yet been fully reversed; and by dint of aggres

sive merchandising efforts, especially in CDs, banks have

increased their time deposit totals sharply.

Other savings institutions also indicate sizable recent

net inflows, seasonally adjusted, most of which are quickly

reinvested in longer term earning assets. The result has been

an extension of the trend characteristic of most of this

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cyclical upswing--private liquidity growing moderately faster

than the growth in real GNP, combined with decreasing liquidity

of the intermediary financial institutions. Studying this

developmert in retrospect, I think the recent growth in the

liquidity of the nonfinancial sector should not appear either

surprising or unnatural, when one considers such influences as

the affluence of most of our society, the relative attractive

ness of liquid financial investment compared with other outlets

for funds, and the mounting totals of indebtedness to be ser

viced. But there is no gainsaying the fact that the larger

liquid asset holdings in private hands provide the wherewithal

for substantial step-ups in spending if that inclination should

develop. On the other hand, since most of this liquidity is

in nonmoney form it must be converted into demand deposits

and currency to be spent and the banks will have to come to

the Federal Reserve to cover the reserve needs thus generated.

Furthermore, our financial institutions have moved into a

position in which they seem quite vulnerable to a significant

tightening in reserve availability, and thus are likely to be

a good deal speedier and sharper transmitters of monetary pres

sure to both private borrowers and investors. In effect, we

have sharper tools in hand, but a bigger job may be in prospect.

The question is often asked, "How much has the Federal

Reserve contributed to this development?" The catalytic role

of the increase in Regulation Q ceilings is, I think, clearly

recognized. Less clear is the part that: has been played by

System actions to add to the. reserve base. Partly, I am sure,

this is because of the varie:y of reserve measures at hand and

the often counterbalancing movements among them. I suppose at

no time has this been more evident than over the six months or

so since the last change in policy in July. Over this span,

System open market operations have added net to nonborrowed

reserves at only a 1.9 per cent annual rate, less than half the

rate of the preceding half-year, banks have borrowed a bit

more in reserves from the discount window, however, so total

reserves over this period are up at a 2,3 per cent rate. Loan

demands and investment opportunities have been such as to lead

banks to mike more than proportionate use of these reserves,

and therefore required reserves have moved up at a 3.2 annual

rate. But two further factors have greatly helped banks to

economize on their use of reserves to supply private credit

and liquidity. One has been a large net transfer of deposits

out of Government hands and into privace hands, in amount suf

ficient to free the equivalent of a 3.3 per cent annual rate of

accretion in reserves behind private demand deposits. The

second has been the continued large public appetite for time

deposits. With the low applicable reserve requirement on these

deposits, even the 17.5 per cent annual rate of increase in

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reserves needed to back time deposits since July absorbed only

about: half the total available reserve funds. As a result,

total reserves required behind private time and demand deposits

combined showed an increase of 7.0 per cent annual rate after

July 31. Accompanying the deposit expansion, total bank credit

has grown by an 8.6 per cent annual rate.

Some observers may regard the rates of expansion of bank

credit and private deposits over the past six months as greater

than are likely to be desirable if long continued. But indications

over the past four weeks suggest that market forces themselves

are eliciting a less vigorous bank expansion. Signs of this can

be seen in the more moderate bank loan demand, the return to sub

stantial bank divestment of securities, and the January see-saw

in money supply totals.

The chief exception to this rule appears to lie in heavy

January bank sales of CDs. These sales have been large, and

may even become larger for a time if banks endeavor to deal

with greater reserve pressures by trying to buy liabilities

rather than liquidate assets. Such a problem could be knotty,

but it may lend itself more to treatment by means of a selec

tive adjustment of the limitations of Regulation Q rather than

the flexing of general monetary policy.

However the general thrust of policy is determined over

the next few weeks and months, the question of operating

instructions to the Desk is obviously a matter of continuing

conce.rn. : am led to observe that System efforts to loosen

money market rigidities would probably have to involve a

toleration of larger swings in the "feel" of the market and in

bank borrowing, as well as larger ranges of permitted fluctua

tion in free reserves and in money market interest rates. In

essence, this would mean System open market operations conducted

with a view to offsetting somewhat less of the daily, weekly,

and monthly reserve and money market fluctuations than has been

usual.

Mr. Daane asked whether Mr. Holland, by his final observation,

meant to suggest a redefinition of "even keel," since an even keel period

had been and still was in effect and probably would extend beyond the

February 17 payment date for the Treasury's refunding.

Mr. Holland

replied that he was abstracting from periods of Treasury financings.

Mr.

Ellis commented that this would imply that the difference in amplitudes of

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fluctuation in market statistics between periods of even keel and other

periods would be increased.

Mr. Noyes remarked that if the market were

accustomed to wider movements, there could be larger fluctuations during

even keel periods; bill rates had moved up and down by 5-10 basis points

in such period; in the past, although the movements had not been pre

dominantly in ,ne direction.

Chairman Martin observed that the nature

of policy after the even keel period also was a factor.

Mr. Wod then read the following report, which had been prepared

by Mr. Furth, on international developments and the U. S. balance of

payments:

The past two weeks have seen no substantial change in

the trend of the international economy. Tentative weekly

data indicate a deficit in U. S. international payments for

the first five weeks of the year of only $125 million, a

rate sligttly lower than that for the second half of 1963.

Abroad, economic expansion continues, still combined

with a payments surplus in.most countries. of continental

Europe. The payments difficulties of Italy appear to have

been eased; in January, its deficit, adjusted for the repay

ment of bank debts incurred last year, has hardly exceeded

the normal seasonal range.

In 1963, the Common Market countries had an aggregate

payments surplus of $1-1/2 billion. Robert Marjolin, a Vice

President of the Common Market Commission, has predicted

that these countries would have an aggregate deficit in 1964.

But this widely publicized statement should be interpreted

as nothing more than an attempt at defeding the negative

European policies under attack by U. S. critics--refusal to

abandon agricultural protectionism; to grant adequate tariff

concessions in the imminent "Kennedy round" of trade negotia

tions; to bear a more equitable share of defense and aid

burdens; and to modify traditional anti-inflationary monetary

policies that tend to increase the inflow of foreign capital

into Europe. It is heartening, however, to find that Germany

has taken the first modest steps toward reducing its interest

rate level, by offering bonds at 5-5/8 per cent rather than

the usual 6 per cent yield.

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-27At home, data that became available last week show both

the composition of the U. S. payments deficit for 1963 and the

way in which it was financed. These data make it possible to

analyze the impact of recent improvements in the U. S, payments

balance on the international liquidity position and thus on the

international financial strength of the United States.

The conventional calculation of the U. S. balance is asym

metrical in that it regards an increase of liquid claims of

foreigners against U. S. residents as increasing the deficit

but does not regard an increase of liquid claims of U. S. resi

dents against foreigners as reducing the deficit. For some

analytical purposes it seems possible to take the position thatwhile there is in many cases a difference in the degree of

liquidity--there is no difference in principle between a Canadian

deposit with a U. S. bank and a U. S. deposit with a Canadian

bank; between a German bank loan to a U. S. customer and a U. S,

bank loan to a German customer; between Belgian acquisition of

U. S. bonds and U. S. acquisition of Belgian bonds; and between

the grant of U. S. assistance to a foreign nation and the receipt

of repayments from the assisted country. There may be good

reasons for differentiating between these payments and receipts

for the purpose of calculating changes in primary liquidity but

there seem to be no good reasons for doing so in calculating

changes in the equally important secondary liquidity position

of the United States.

If the U. S. payments deficit in recent years is adjusted

in accordance with that view, the deficits for 1958, 1959, 1960,

and 1962 remain disturbingly high. The deficit for 1961 is

greatly reduced and the deficit for 1963 virtually disappears,

being reduced to $200 million.

This computation is presented not to deprecate further

measures to eliminate the "conventional" deficit but to assess

the European complaints which assert that the United States has

been financing extravagant expenditures by forcing dollar claims

on unwilling foreign holders. The data show that the size of

the deficit as conventionally calculated need not be interpreted

as reflecting U. S. debts incurred to finance U, S. military and

economic aid to foreigners and the acquisition of equities abroad

by U. S. investors; rather, it may be interpreted as arising

mainly because foreigners borrowed U. S, dollars, i.e., gave the

United States claims on them, to the tune of $2-1/4 billion,

taking in return half a billion in gold and roughly $2 billion

in claims on the United States. Last year, in contrast to most

previous years, the net borrower was not the United States; it

was the rest of the world.

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The weakness of the argument that the United States has

been forcing dollar balances on unwilling holders may be demon

strated in another way. The. deficit for last year, conventionally

calculated, was $3 billion. Foreign authorities made debt prepay

ments of half a billion, took another half a billion in gold, as

just mentioned, and an additional half a billion in nonmarketable

securities denominated in foreign currencies. This left $1-1/2

billion to be financed by an increase in foreign dollar holdings.

International institutions reduced their dollar holdings by $200

million, but. foreign authorities increased theirs by $900 million,

and foreign private bankers, merchants, and investors by $800

million. About half of the $900 million increase in official

dollar holdings accrued to less developed countries, which pre

Similarly, the

sumably were willing recipients of these assets.

net increase of $800 million in foreign private dollar holdings

was voluntary; the attitude of the international market toward

the dollar is shown by the fact that private foreigners reduced

holdings of "covered" dollars by $200 million and increased hold

ings of "uncovered" dollars by $1 billion. Thus, if there was

any involuntary increase in foreign dollar holdings; it must have

been confined to the increased in dollar holdings of the "Group of

Ten," other than the United States, amounting to less than half a

billion dollars. Clearly, the conversion of that amount into

gold would have been tolerable, and might have been a small price

to pay for putting a stop to the complaints of some members of

the Group about the sacrifices they are making in supporting the

allegedly weak dollar and permitting it temporarily to remain an

international reserve asset.

If the tentative deficit figures of anuary and early

February are confirmed by the final reports, these complaints

may soon be replaced by demands for larger outflows of dollars.

In the meantime, the forthcoming U. S. drawing on the IMF

It there

might well have adverse psychological repercussions.

fore is particularly important at this time to improve under

standing of monetary reality among public as well as private

members of the international financial community by pointing out

those recent developments in the U. S. payments deficit and its

financing which seem to have escaped their, and perhaps our own,

attention.

Chairman Martin then called for the usual go-around of comments

and views on economic and monetary policy beginning with Mr. Treiber,

who commented as follows:

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This month marks three full years of business expansion.

The business situation continues to be good, and business senti

ment is buoyant. The economy's present momentum, the absence of

speculative inventory accumulation, and the stimulus of a

prospective tax cut support the expectation of another year of

business expansion.

Since the last meeting of the Committee there have been no

significant changes with respect to employment or prices. The

leveling off of bank credit expansion in January in contrast to

large increases in preceding months does not necessarily indicate

any significant change in the underlying trend of loan demad.

But it does indicate the possibility of a slowdown in the rate

of bank credit expansion. There has been little change in bank

liquidity ratios. Broadly speaking, there is plenty of bank

liquidity and nonbank liquidity.

Over the last three years we have had relatively stable

prices. More recently, however, price developments have been

mixed and industrial materials prices have risen moderately.

Continuation of a reasonable degree of price stability cannot be

taken for granted. Further gains in business activity will tend

to reduce excess manufacturing capacity and make the economy more

vulnerable to demand pressures. The trucking industry and the

teamsters' union have agreed on a nationwide contract, with wage

increases and fringe benefits costing about 4 per cent a year

over the next three years. There are indications that other

labor unions, such as the United Auto Workers, will press for

substantial wage increases, citing large increases in productivity

and large profits in their particular industries. While large

wage increases in industries that have had above average in

creases in productivity may be absorbed without increases in

prices in those industries, the large wage increases are likely

to foster corresponding wage increases elsewhere and to push up

wages generally faster than the increase in over-all productivity.

The consequence could be a cost-push on prices.

Prospects for further general price stability depend on

such underlying elements as world market trends in primary

products, and movements in the rate of capacity utilization,

in productivity, and in wages and salaries. Price stability

is required not only to protect the domestic purchasing power

of the dollar but also to strengthen the international competi

tiveness of the United States and thus improve our balance of

payments.

The most recent balance of payments figures are encouraging.

Favorable factors in January included the absence of any new

foreign security issues, a relatively small build up in liabilities

to foreign branches of U, S. banks and to the foreign offices of

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Canadian bank agencies, and the after effects on payments of the

December jump in our export surplus. But one or two swallows

don't make a summer. It remains to be seen to what extent the

current favorable situation will continue. Part of the improve

ment probably reflects a continuing gai in our international

competitive position. Part reflects additional exports financed

by the U. S. Government in one way or another. Can we keep down

or reduce our unit costs at home? We can't rely on further price

increases abroad to improve our competitive position. Some

European countries recently have undertaken steps to curtail their

domestic price rises. Such steps also could attract capital out

flows from the United States. Regardless of the effect of monetary

action taken by foreign countries, we know that foreign security

issues in the United States are going to rise in the next few months.

The balance of payments must continue tc have high priority in our

thinking.

The current situation calls for caution. We have a domestic

situation which may well call for less ease in view of the better

business prospects; we have possible dangers ahead if there are

further rapid increases in bank credit and liquidity; we have signs

of some upward movement in prices; and we have continuing uncer

tainty on the international side. But, in my opinion, these factors

do not call for a change in policy today.

The lack of immediate inflationary pressures, some indication

of a slowdown in the rate of credit expansion, the encouraging signs

with respect to our balance of payments, and the attention being

given by the Congress to legislation in the economic area, particularly

taxes, counsel no change in Federal Reserve policy at this time.

I do think, however, that it would be entirely consistent with

the current directive to have a slightly firmer tone in the money

market than we have had in the last couple of weeks. I am glad to

see that somewhat firmer conditions have in fact emerged in the last

few days.

I think there should be no change in the discount rate and that

there should be no substantial change in the directive. The refer

ence in the directive to an imminent Treasury refunding should be

deleted.

Mr. Ellis said that the New England economy was satisfactory but

not up to its full potential.

Manufacturing output had risen a little

more than seasonally in December.

The purchasing agents survey suggested

strengthening of output in January--there were more frequent reports of

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increased orders to manufacturers in the region.

The December employment

record was not good; there was a November to December decline in employ

ment in nondurable manufacturing industries which pulled total

manufacturing employment down.

ago.

Both groups continued down from a year

However, nonmanufacturing employment rose enough to hold total

employment in the District slightly above the level of a year ago.

New bank credit extended in December recovered sharply from the

low November figure to a level 10 per cent above a year ago.

Bank loans

were strong in January despite a high average loan-deposit ratio.

District

banks continued to find loans to foreign banks attractive, and they had

increased the funds allocated to this purpose by about 68 per cent since

July.

They continued to bid for time certificates of deposit.

The fact that the Treasury was in the midst of a refunding and

had just completed an advance refunding, Mr. Ellis said, suggested that

policy should not be changed materially and overtly immediately.

He felt,

however, that the Committee's deliberations should be devoted largely to

underlying issues and to the policy to be followed after the Treasury

operations were completed.

The present upward thrust in the economy came

during a season of the year when some hesitation was common, and it was a

source of satisfaction.

At the same time, the evidence of the new McGraw

Hill survey on the rate at which capital expenditures would advance, and

the stimulation to be expected from the tax cut, suggested that it was

appropriate to remain alert to possible inflationary pressures from a

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superheated aggregate demand.

It did not seem that the 5-1/2 per cent

unemployment rate would stand as an impediment to labor demands in the

forthcoming wage negotiations, and it appeared likely to Mr. Ellis that

by next fall higher wage costs would be stimulating price advances.

In this atmosphere, Mr. Ellis continued, monetary policy had

made its contribution in full measure, and since July, perhaps in more

than full measure.

The staff memorandum indicated that, since the dis

count rate action, reserves supporting private deposits had expanded at

a rate of more than 7 per cent, and there had been an 8.6 per cent growth

rate in total bank credit.

While the staff analysis of the credit situation

this morning was good, it did not present an argument to the effect that

a 7 per cent rate of reserve expansion was sustainable.

While the

expansion rate varied from month to month, ar.d it was possible to hope

that it would slow down, the record since July did not suggest that the

present degree of ease would result in more moderate and sustainable

expansion.

Mr. Ellis' inclination was to seek a lessening in monetary ease

to slow down the rate of monetary expansion, in view of the new stimulation

to be provided by fiscal policy.

Unfortunately, a problem was posed by

the 4 per cent Regulation Q ceiling.

Credit expansion could be expected

to lift the short-term rate and bring the rate on CD's to the ceiling,

thereby threatening a loss of as much as $10 billion of deposits unless

the ceiling were lifted.

The critical decision facing the Committee was

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whether it should provide reserves to whatever extent was necessary to

prevent interest rate increases, or whether it should allow rates to rise

and thus probably necessitate an increase in the Regulation Q limits.

There might be negative reactions to an action raising interest rates

immediately after tax legislation was enacted.

For the moment, Mr. Ellis concluded, he favored no overt action.

He would continue policy in its present posture and watch for signals,

such as solid evidence that industrial prices were beginning to rise,

that indicated the need for a change in posture.

In the absence of such

signals he would make no material change in policy.

At the same time,

he found it hard to believe that month after month the Committee could

continue to renew a directive which simply called for operations "with a

view to maintaining about the same conditions in the money market as have

prevailed in recent weeks."

There had been changes in recent weeks that

in his judgment did not conform to the basic objective of policy.

He

would hope that the Desk would be a little more aggressive in seeking a

somewhat lower rate of reserve growth.

Mr. Irons reported that business conditions in the Eleventh

District had moved ahead quite satisfactorily during the past month.

Industrial production in January was 7 per cent above the year-ago level,

and oil production was up about 8 per cent.

Construction contract

awards were quite strong, particularly for residential construction.

Retail trade figures were favorable.

The unemployment rate in Texas

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(not seasonally adjusted) was around 4.6-4.8 per cent.

New car regis

trations were high; apparently new cars were moving well in the major

cities for which data were available.

The District picture was pretty

much the same as that in the nation, with some variations.

Conditions

were strong but not surging, and there were few evidences of imbalance

at present.

District banking figures for the last three weeks relative

to a year ago also were much like those for the nation, Mr. Irons

continued.

Loans, investments, and deposits were all down a bit.

The

Federal funds picture had not changed much; purchases by District banks

averaged around $750-$800 million and sales about $350 million.

Borrow

ings from the Reserve Bank were down somewhat.

Nationally, Mr. Irons said, economic developments were favorable,

the underpinning was strong, and the economy appeared to be well balanced.

There was a high degree of liquidity.

Bank credit recently had not

expanded as much as expected, but this was not damaging.

Commodity

prices were reasonably stable; although prices might be moving up in

some areas, there was no strong evidence of inflationary pressures.

The balance of payments problem was not solved, but there had been

improvement recently.

Mr. Irons felt that in view of current circumstances and uncer

tainties, the Committee should have clear and convincing reasons before

making any significant change in policy at this time.

It would be a

mistake, he thought, to try to anticipate the effect of the tax bill

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was not. known what the final bill

consequences might be.

would be like nor what its

Accordingly, he favored continuing the policy

that had been followed in the past several weeks for the next 3 weeks,

meanwhile watching developments closely.

Mr. Hemmings reported that information available since the last

meeting of the Committee indicated that employment rose in

December in

the Twelfth District as a whole; moreover, the rate of increase surpassed

that for the nation, as it did during much of the latter part of 1963.

Although practically all District States reg:.stered some gain in employ

ment in December, the bulk of the increase had been in the Pacific Coast

States.

An unusually sharp dip in

the labor .orce plus the modest gain in

employment caused the District unemployment rate to fall to 5.6 per cent

from 6.1 per cent in November, Mr. Hemmings said.

This was the lowest

rate since the spring of 1963, but it was slightly higher than the 5.5

per cent figure of a year ago.

Despite the December decline in the un

employment rate, another major labor market area--Tacoma, Washington

was added in December to the list of District labor areas classified as

having substantial unemployment.

There were now six such areas in the

District compared with four a year ago.

Relatively few business data were available for January, Mr.

Hemmings continued.

In two instances, department store sales and steel

production, the gains over a year ago had been less in the District than

in the nation.

However, the demand for nonferrous metals had remained

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firm.

Hedge buying against the possibility of a strike by mid-year at

District copper mines currently was a major factor in the strong demand

for that metal.

A pickup in demand for lumber and plywood, particularly

from the California market, reportedly resulted in substantial price

increases for virtually all dimension items as well as for plywood

sheathing in late January.

In the financial area, total bank credit outstanding at District

weekly reporting banks declined in the two-week period January 15-29

nearly three times as much as in the corresponding weeks of 1963.

The

reduction was about evenly divided between loans and investments.

The

reduction in holdings of U. S. Governments in these two weeks by District

banks accounted for more than one-fourth of the total decrease for all

weekly reporting banks in the nation.

The decline in demand deposits adjusted at District weekly report

ing banks was substantially greater than in the corresponding weeks of

1963, as it was nationally, Mr. Hemmings said.

The increase in total

time deposits was about the same in amount as in 1963 and accounted for

one-third of the total increase for all weekly reporting banks in the

nation.

Daily average borrowings of reserve city banks in the District

dropped off substantially in January, but the banks continued to have

negative free reserves.

29,

During the two statement weeks ending January

banks in the District as a whole were net sellers of Federal funds.

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In both weeks, a large portion of the net sales was accounted for by

one bank, as it reduced bill holdings and placed the proceeds in the

Federal funds market.

Mr. Deming observed that there had been no noteworthy new

developments in the Ninth District in the past two weeks.

More recent

estimates of personal income confirmed a fairly sharp drop in December,

reflecting the fall in farm prices and the delay in farm marketings.

In January, nonagricultural employment in Minnesota was up fairly strongly.

There seemed to be no particularly serious maladjustments in the District

at this time.

One circumstance that seemed atypical and that was difficult to

understand, Mr. Deming said, was the lack of exuberance in the District

with respect tc the business outlook.

The "Minnesota Poll," a scientific

public opinion poll conducted by Twin City newspapers, found sentiment

not significantly different from a year ago.

The Reserve Bank's opinion

survey, which was banker-business oriented, continued to show more

pessimism than a year ago.

The Bank's poll probably had some seasonal in

it, but the change in attitudes it indicated was quite marked.

The District banking situation was about the same as in the nation.

Officials at some of the larger city banks recently indicated that they

expected a smaller increase in loan demand in 1964 than in 1963.

Mr.

Deming thought there probably was some downward bias in their estimates,

but in any event the estimates did not support an expectation of a strong

increase in loan demand.

Loan-deposit ratios at city banks in the District

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were about the same as in 1960, and up only a point in the last year.

The trend at country banks was somewhat stronger.

Mr. Deming said he agreed with the v:ews expressed by Mr. Treiber and

Mr. Irons.

He favored no change in policy at this time, and no change in

the directive except for the elimination of the phrase on Treasury financ

ing.

He would not change the discount rate.

Mr. Scanlon said that the outlook for business activity in the

Seventh District continued to be favorable.

Retail sales had been at very

high levels in recent weeks and output in major industries had been

maintained or had increased.

Virtually all of the business forecasts

coming to the attention of the Reserve Bank were optimistic.

Mr. Scanlon observed that Mr. Treiber had mentioned wage contract

negotiations later this year.

Signs of labor unrest were becoming evident

in some major Seventh District industries, he said, particularly in the

case of firms manufacturing motor vehicles and construction machinery.

The Reserve Bank would be watching developments in these areas with great

interest.

at the recent posture had

As to policy, Mr. Scanlon believed the

been satisfactory and that it should be continued until the next meeting

of the Committee.

He thought the directive could well stand, except for

the reference to "an imminent Treasury refunding."

He would not favor

changing the discount rate at this time.

Mr. Clay said that at this juncture it appeared appropriate to

continue essentially the same monetary policy.

Weighing the various

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developments in the domestic economy, the situation remained one that

called for sufficient reserve availability to permit member bank credit

expansion on a seasonally adjusted basis.

Theprojected improvement in

business capital outlays was a much needed indication of expanding

activity, but at present it was part of the broader pattern of moderately

increasing economic activity that had prevailed for some time.

Balance

of payments developments also appeared to permit a continuation of the

recent monetary policy posture.

Except for the deletion of the reference

to Treasury financing, the economic policy directive could be retained

in

its

present form.

The discount rate should be left

unchanged,

Mr.

Clay

concluded.

Mr. Wayne observed that Fifth District business conditions re

mained substantially as reported two weeks ago:

high levels.

holding at generally

In manufacturing, the December gain in man-hours had

turned out to be larger than suggested by early data, and January reports

from industry sources indicated firm to strong, markets in metals, lumber,

furniture, textiles, apparel, and chemicals.

Construction employment

was showing considerable resistance to the usual seasonal declines, and

the backlog of work probably was at an all-time high as a result of a

record volume of contract awards in the last five months of 1963.

De

partment store sales improved sharply in the final two weeks of January.

Bituminous coal production and shipments were somewhat lower in January,

but foreign loadings were up and the general outlook remained favorable.

Consumer loans at District weekly reporting banks displayed better than

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seasonal strength in January, but business and real estate loans were

somewhat weaker than usual.

In the Federal Funds market District banks

were net sellers through the first three weeks of January but swung over

to fairly heavy net purchases in the two weeks ended February 5.

A few remarks on the cigarette market might be in order, Mr.

Wayne said, although solid facts were scarce.

Except where certain new,

highly advertised filter brands were involved, District cigarette plants

had reduced the work week from a normal five days to four, and in a few

cases to three.

Some liquidation of excess stocks in January and February

was a normal seasonal pattern.

There was more to liquidate this year but

how much more was not yet known, so inventories would be checked week by

week for evidence to justify a return to full production.

For one large

producer this was already the fourth four-day week compared to only two

such weeks required for last year's inventory adjustment.

Meanwhile,

reductions from year-ago levels in January State cigarette tax revenues

reportedly ranged in some areas as high as 15 or 20 per cent, but changes

of this magnitude appeared exceptional and might be temporary.

Nationally, Mr. Wayne continued, the flow of current information

indicated that the economy continued to register a moderate and firmly

based improvement.

Two weeks ago he had noted a mixed behavior in

prices, but since that time additional evidence pointed more toward price

stability.

On several occasions during the current upswing there had

been patterns of price movements that looked like the beginning of an

inflationary rise, but they had all collapsed after a few weeks.

Such

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would seem to be the fate of this movement,

although it

was too soon

to be certain.

In the policy field, Mr. Wayne believed that conditions in

the

money market for the past two weeks had been appropriate in view of

prevailing conditions.

Seeing nothing in the current situation to suggest

an urgent need for a change, he favored a continuation of present policy

and a renewal of the current directive, with elimination of the reference

to Treasury financing.

change in

Obviously, Mr. Wayne said, he did not feel that a

the discount rate would be in order.

In a concluding remark, Mr., Wayne commended the Desk for

having appropriately carried out, under difficult conditions, what ha.

believed to have been the intent of the Committee.

Mr.

Mills observed that as he had followed the discussion

around the table, it

seemed to him that the problem that the partic

ipants were attempting to contend with was one of leads and lags, with

the knowledge that it was necessary in monetary policy to lead against

anticipated future events, and with the further knowledge that there was

a lag between the time a policy was instituted and the time its impact

produced economic and financial results.

His own feeling was that it

was still much too early to attempt to lead with monetary and credit policy

against the possibility that the economy might overheat and at some unfore

seeable future date produce inflationary pressures.

It would be preferable

to delay any leading of the economy and to accept the very minimal risk

that delay at this time might provoke future problems.

It was his strong

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belief that there would be ample time to take action against inflationary

developments it and when they become truly evident.

Mr. Mills thought

that for the present there were good grounds for feeling that the economy

needed the stimulus of a reasonably relaxed credit policy that would

permit expansion along the lines recently experienced, as reflected in

the statistics.

After these remarks, Mr. Mills presented the following state

ment:

The nost significant event that has happened since the

Committee's last meeting is the upward revision in business

plans for new plant and equipment outlays revealed in a new

McGraw-Hill report. To the extent that these investment pro

grams represent enlarged plant capacity, rather than future

modernization of existing capacity, they indicate expectations

of expanding market opportunities. In order for the economic

multiplier effects of these prospective additions to capital

investments to be fully realized in their own right as spending

stimulants and as sources of new savings, it is crucially

important that adequate credit be available to finance the

resultant enlargment of output through distributive channels

and on to final consumption. A more restrictive Federal

Reserve System monetary and credit policy could block an

advance into higher grounds of well-rounded economic activity.

The current rule that an expansion in demand deposits

adjusted and time deposits should be held to an annual rate

of 3 per cent is tantamount to setting up an economic roadblock,

in that mechanical adherence to the rule implicitly demands a

curtailment of credit and a consequent contraction of demand

deposits whenever the 3 per cent expansion factor is violated.

Slavish adherence to what is only a theoretical rule that has

been arbitrarily--if not arbitrarily and capriciously--chosen

as an appropriate measure for bank credit expansion is bound

to have deleterious economic effects, in that normal and natural

forces working toward economic advancement stand to be subjugated

to the confines of a theory whose empirical validity remains to

be proven. If the Committee persists in a belief that monetary

and credit policy should be guided and formulated according

to a predetermined percentage factor for deposit expansion, it

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would at least be preferable to raise the expansion factor

from 3 per cent to 4 per cent and in that way dissipate the

ungrounded fear of unwarranted credit expansion that has been

expressed whenever estimated required reserves have exceeded

the 3 per cent guideline.

I have argued continuously for the elimination of artifi

cial controls over interest rates and the abandonment of a

pegged United States Government securities market. The

arguments for a restoration of free market principles to the

securities markets can be applied with equal cogency for a return

to the principles of dependence on the evolution of natural

factors in the credit markets, rather than adherence to a

mechanistic theory of the supply of reserves, as the better

guideline on which to formulate monetary and credit policy.

Mr. Robertson said he was pleased by the similarity of the

conclusions that had been expressed around the table up to this point.

He then made the following statement:

We are hearing a good deal about "anticipations"--antici

pations of somewhat greater plant and equipment expenditures,

anticipations of greater consumer spending, anticipations of

possible inflationary price movements that might result--all

in response to the tax cut. But it seems to me there is one

other "anticipation" that ought to be worrying this Committeethat is, how much of the stimulative effect of the tax cut has

already been anticipated in our markets. To the extent that has

happened, any further upward push has been reduced, and the

need for any changes in monetary policy has been correspondingly

diminished. How shall we know how much of the tax cut has been

anticipated, and how much additional stimulus remains? The only

thing we can do is to wait and see.

In times like these, monetary policy should be based on

facts and events--not on pure guesses as to what the future

holds. And the facts of the moment are that unemployment is

still high, prices are generally stable, and the balance of

payments has shown a marked improvement. To my mind, that adds

up to a need for a continued stimulative monetary policy--con

tinued until enough adverse developments actually happen in our

markets to show that a change is needed.

I know it is argued that if we wait until an inflation

actually starts before we tighten monetary policy, it will be

too late. But I for one am not of that view. I think resolute

tightening action on our part, whenever price increases become

general and substantial, can brake that inflationary rise. We

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might have to stand some rather sizable interest rate increases

in the process, but I think some people will be surprised at

how quickly our financial institutions--with their already much

reduced liquidity positions--respond to a tightening policy.

It is because I have confidence in the effectiveness of resolute

tightening actions in such an environment that I am prepared to

argue for our being resolute now in adhering to a stimulative

policy.

I would translate that objective into an instruction to

the Manager to continue reserve availability at least as ample

as in recent weeks, without worrying about incipient or modest

movements in market interest rates, so long as they remain orderly.

Of course, the reference to Treasury financing should be

dropped from the directive.

Mr. Shepardson said that in his judgment the description of the

economic situation given by the staff and others this morning, and the

uncertainties as to the type of tax cut that would be enacted, the effects

it would have, and the extent to which it had already been anticipated,

all argued for continuation of present policy during the ensuing 3-week

period.

Mr. Mitchell said he would accept Mr. Irons' description and

analysis of the economic situation and his policy recommendation.

Mr. Daane observed that he shared Mr. Noyes' lack of confidence

in the precision of the estimates of the multiplier and accelerator effects

involved in the tax cut.

He also was quite skeptical with regard to the

immediacy of the effect.

In any event, he said, he agreed with those pre

ceding speakers who thought that policy should not be changed unless there

was a clear and compelling case for change on grounds either of the domes

tic economy or the balance of payments, and no such grounds were apparent

at this time.

Therefore, he would make no change in present policy, and

would resolve doubts on the side of watchful waiting.

He would not change

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the directive except to eliminate the reference to Treasury financing,

and he would not favor a change in

the discou.t rate.

Mr. Daaae added that he did not think a change in the discount

rate would help overcome the problem of rate rigidity but would simply

change the level of rates, because of the factors Mr. Stone had mentioned-structural changes and the market attitude that official actions would

prevent rate fluctuations.

The most practicable way to dissipate the

market view was for the Desk to continue to operate so as to permit

reasonable flexibility of both rates and free reserves, and for the

Committee to maintain its willingness to permit such fluctuations, within

a reasonable range, as reflections of market developments.

Mr. Hickman said that the principal business news since the last

meeting indicated that steel output increasec further in January and that

auto output and sales had substantially maintained the high levels of

December, after seasonal correction.

These points had been surmised

two weeks ago, but were now matters of record.

The industrial production

index for January, when it became available, would probably show another

small upward change from the high December figure.

This year there was

a notable absence of the kind of seasonal gloom about business that had

come to be known as the "January jitters."

The same general trends were apparent in Fourth District figures.

All seasonally adjusted measures for the District continued at high levels;

steel production, electric power output (closely geared to steel production),

and building permits were higher in January than in late 1963.

Adjusted

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insured unemployment rates showed rather small, but fairly pervasive,

changes for the better in most major labor market areas of the District.

Department store sales dipped early in January but then improved, while

sales of automobiles, seasonally adjusted, stabilized at a high level in

January and early February, at a rate slightly below the record December

level.

During the same period business loans at District reporting banks

rose contraseasonally.

Mr. Hickman observed that he continued to be concerned about

the possibility of price inflation, despite the fact that, thus far,

this concern did not rest on substantial statistical evidence.

Perhaps

the most important straw in the wind was the December figure for the

industrial comnonent of the wholesale price index, which showed an increase of three-tenths of one index point over November.

In addition, the

diffusion index of wholesale prices for 23 manufacturing industries had

been continuously above 50 per cent ever since July of last year, indicating that a majority of such prices had been moving upward month after

month.

Further evidence of firming prices was provided by a survey re-

cently made of industrial correspondents in the Fourth District.

Admit-

tedly, the survey showed persistent weakness in specific lines such as

chemicals and electrical machinery and equipment, which were subject to

severe foreign competition.

On the other hand, prices had increased in

a number of areas, including ferrous and nonferrous metals, machinery other

than electrical, and scattered other industries.

What this boiled down to,

it seemed to Mr. Hickman, was that upward price pressures were continuing

to accumulate despite relatively flat index lines.

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It appeared to him also that there was evidence of excessive

monetary expansion in the rate of growth of the money supply over the

last year and a half.

If an outright price surge should materialize,

Mr. Hickman said, the System might have difficulty in justifying its

recent actions.

Turning to developments in recent weeks, Mr. Hickman noted that

the free reserve figures had been erratic and at times misleading.

Bank

borrowings, on the other hand, had remained around $175 million, indiBill rates had remained

cating a fairly comfortable reserve position.

near the discount rate since the last meeting, confirming the impression

conveyed by the lower level of bank borrowings.

Under the circumstances,

he saw no clear reason for a change in the policy directive, except for

deletion of the reference to the Treasury refunding.

With the advantage

of hindsight, Mr. Hickman concluded, he felt that slightly less ease in

the past two weeks would have been better, and he suggested that the Committee probe gently in that direction.

Mr. Bopp said that latest readings of economic activity in the

Third District indicated that business was fair.

Unemployment claims

continued to drop at a seasonal pace and remained at favorable levels

in comparison with previous years.

Insured unemployment rates increased

in January in several areas, but the increases were not large.

Help-wanted

indexes, for Philadelphia and for the nation, increased in December for

the third consecutive month.

Department store sales had been satisfactory.

So far as District banking conditions were concerned, the relatively

tight conditions prevailing in recent months had relaxed further.

For the

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week ending February 5, reserve city banks had a basic reserve surplus of

$24.6 million.

Reserve City banks were net sellers of Federal funds dur-

ing the week.

With the domestic economy and the payments accounts behaving as

they were, Mr. Bopp concluded, the present posture of policy seemed appropriate.

He would maintain the present position, make no change in the

discount rate, and, except for the reference to the Treasury refunding,

retain the present directive.

Mr. Bryan said that no Sixth District figures differed sufficiently

from national tendencies to be worthy of comment.

As far as the national

situation was concerned, the factors he had in mind already had been discussed.

He agreed with those who believed that no overt change in policy

should be made now.

In particular, he thought that the stimulative effect

of a tax cut, which was being counted on so heavily by the American people

should not be offset by the System until such action was obviously necessary.

Having indicated that he favored no overt change in policy, Mr.

Bryan continued, he wanted to add that he agreed with the view that in

the long run the Committee could not sustain reserve expansion at the

recent rate without creating difficulties, not merely from the monetary

standpoint but also from the standpoint of trying to combine marginal manpower with marginal resources.

If the economic outlook was as good as he

believed, the time would come when the Committee would have to permit reserve availability to drift off to a lower level.

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Mr. Bryan added one final comment:

He thought Mr. Mills had

correctly called attention to the fact that there was no one rate of

reserve expansion that ipso facto was the perfect rate.

Mr. Shuford reported that economic activity in the Eighth District had expanded only slightly in recent months, whereas in the early

part of 1963 expansion had been at a substantial rate.

Since late summer,

employment and industrial use of electric power had fluctuated in a narrow

range.

Spending, as indicated by department store sales and bank debits,

had changed little.

The early autumn rise in business loans had been

offset by declines since October.

On the other hand, bank deposits con-

tinued to rise.

The economic situation on the national level already had been

covered adequately this morning, Mr.

Shuford said; it

continued strong.

As indicated, prices were remaining stable on the whole, with changes

mixed.

Upward pressures were developing in some areas at the wholesale

level, and retail prices were continuing to move up.

Mr. Shuford commented that he was becoming increasingly concerned

about the high rate of growth of reserves and money.

He shared Mr. Bryan's

view that monetary expansion could not continue at the recent rate.

He

would like to see the rate of growth in reserves supporting private deposits

drop back considerably from the 7 per cent rate that had been experienced

in the period from August through January--perhaps to a rate of 3, 4, or

5 per cent.

He agreed that no specific rate of monetary growth could be

taken as proper, but nevertheless he felt that at some time soon the

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Committee should move in the direction of lowering the recent growth rate.

He shared the view that there were a number of factors, already discussed,

that called for no change in policy today, and at present he favored no

change in policy, no change in the discount rate, and no change in the

directive except elimination of the reference to Treasury financing.

But

he thought the matter of the rate of increase in reserves and money was

something that the Committee would need to continue to be aware of.

Mr. Balderston said that whatever technical deficiencies the

measure might have, the best available index of unemployment was still

at 5.5 per cent--a higher level than anyone would want.

If reduction of

unemployment were the only goal of monetary policy, it would be appropriate

to continue the present degree of ease, perhaps even to increase it further.

But there were other policy goals, despite the advice being offered by

some of the System's academic friends.

those centering in

He was referring especially to

the balance of payments,

Mr.

Balderston said.

Such

modest progress as had been made recently toward achieving equilibrium

in the balance of payments might well suffer setbacks in the months ahead.

Despite such consolation as the Committee might have received this morning

from Mr. Furth's statement, the fact remained that by conventional measurement methods the progress made last year in reducing the deficit

amounted to only 1/6 of the previous year's deficit, which was $3.6

billion after adjustment for prepayments.

In the year ahead the Committee

had to be prepared for shocks in several areas.

First, the British would

have an election, and their elections often ware accompanied by some

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pressure on the pound about which the Committee could not be unconcerned.

Secondly, noting the opposition of European countries to the receipt of

American exports, especially of agricultural commodities, one might fear

that the U. S. would be defeated in its efforts to lower the barriers.

Third, it was possible that wage negotiations this year, especially in

the auto industry, might cause the U. S. to lose the significant ground

it had gained competitively during the year just past.

If American costs

should rise faster than those of Europe, the ability of the U. S. to

maintain its healthy trade surplus would be diminished.

It was not only the size of the trade surplus that counted, Mr.

Balderston continued, but also the confidence that foreigners had in the

ability of the U. S. to make forward progress.

In his judgment, that con-

fidence had a great deal to do with their willingness to hold short-term

claims against the U. S.

In brief, Mr. Balderston said, the Committee

could not afford to be lulled into a sense of security by the balance of

payments figures of the last half year, because the improvement achieved

might turn out to be ephemeral.

It

had taken a long time to reach the

present status, and the U. S. could lose ground this year unless it maintained self-discipline.

Not much change was evident in commodity prices, Mr. Balderston

remarked, except with respect to a few sensitive materials like tin.

But

attention seemed to be focused on the prices of things, with the fact

overlooked that the prices of services, and therefore the cost of living,

had been pressing upward persistently.. The price of services, on the

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average, bad risen 12.6 per cent in the last five years, or about 2-1/2

per cent per year, and in consequence the consumer price index had moved

up from a 1957-59 base of 100 to a level of 107.6.

While this was not

a frightening rate of increase, a continual upward creep in the co;t of

services was something the Committee could not afford to ignore.

Mr. Balderston said he was willing to go along with the majority

this morning in not favoring overt action at this time, but he hoped the

Committee could agree with Mr. Ellis and Mr. Hickman that some movement

toward less ea.e was prudent.

In his judgment, the 7 per cent rate of

increase since last July in reserves required against private deposits,

if continued, would eventually lead to trouble. However, he shared Mr.

Mills' point that adherence to any one percentage rate of growth was not

desirable.

Chairman Martin said that he could concur in practically everything said this morning.

the Treasury financing.

He did want to make one comment with respect to

Even if the Committee had desired to move in the

direction of somewhat firmer conditions, he thought it had some obligation to the Treasury in connection with the current financing.

In his

judgment, the Committee should lean over backward to avoid any inference

that it had set up certain conditions and then pulled out the rug.

The Chairman said he understood that the consensus today clearly

was for no change in policy at this time, no change in the discount rate,

and no change in the directive other than deletion of the phrase, "and

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taking into account an imminent Treasury refunding", and there was no

indication to the contrary.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made and

seconded, the Federal Reserve Bank of New

York was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee, to

execute transactions in the System Account

in accordance with the following current

economic policy directive:

It is the Federal Open Market Committee's current policy

to accommodate moderate growth in bank credit, while maintaining conditions in the money market that would contribute to

continued improvement in the capital account of the U.S. balance of payments. This policy takes into consideration the

fact that domestic economic activity is expanding further, although with a margin of underuti:.ized resources; and the fact

tht the balance of payments position is still adverse despite

a tendency to reduced deficits. It also recognizes the increases in bank credit, money supply, and the reserve base of

recent months.

To implement this policy, System open market operations

shall be conducted with a view to maintaining about the same

conditions in the money market as have prevailed in recent

weeks, while accommodating moderate expansion in aggregate

bank reserves.

Votes for this action: Messrs. Martin,

Balderston, Bopp, Clay, Daane, Irons, Mitchell,

Robertson, Scanlon, Shepardson, and Treiber.

Votes against this action: None. Abstaining:

Mr. Mills.

Mr. Mills said he felt obliged, as at the previous meeting, to

abstain.

He was still unable to ascertain whether "no change in policy"

referred to maintenance of a certain interest rate structure or was

intended to focus on the supply of reserves.

He would like to follow

the statistics from now until the next meeting to see what they might

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indicate as to the actual implementation of policy, and to determine

whether he considered the implementation objectionable or acceptable.

This analysis, he added, would be an international

effort on his part.

Upon motion duly made and seconded, and

by unanimous vote, section 1 (a) of the continuing authority directive was amended, in

line with the earlier suggestion of the

Account Manager, to authorize the Federal

Reserve Bank of New York, to the extent necessary to carry out the current economic

policy directive:

(a) To buy or sell United States Government securities

in the open market, from or o Government securities dealers

and foreign and internationa. acccunts maintained at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, on a cash, regular, or deferred

delivery basis, for the System Open Market Account at market

prices and, for such Account, to exchange maturing United States

Government securities with the Treasury or allow them to mature

without replacement; provided that the aggregate amount of such

securities held in such Account (including forward commitments,

but not including such special short-term certificates of indebtedness as may be purchased from the Treasury under paragraph 2

hereof) shall not be increased or decreased by more thar $1

billion during any period between meetirgs of the Committee.

The Committee then discussed at some length the request that

had been made to Chairman Martin on January 22, 1964, by the Subcommittee

on Domestic Finance of the House Banking and Currency Committee, that

the Subcommittee be furnished with the minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee for the years 1960-63, inclusive.

There also was further

discussion of the matter of making available the minutes of the Committee

for some historical period, a question that had been considered most

recently at the meeting on December 3, 1963.

No decisions were reached

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on either subject, and it was agreed that the two matters would be explored further at the next meeting of the Committee.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on March 3, 1964.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

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  month = {Feb},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19640211},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}