fomc minutes · July 12, 1965

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington, D. C. on Tuesday, July 13, 1965, at 9:30 a.m.

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Balderston

Bryan

Daane

Ellis

Galusha

Maisel

Mitchell

Robertson

Mr. Scanlon

Mr. Shepardson

Mr. Trieber, Alternate for Mr. Hayes

Messrs. Bopp, Hickman, Clay, and Irons, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Wayne, Shuforc, and Swan, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond, St.

Louis, and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Broida, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Noyes, Economist

Messrs. Baughman, Garvy, and Koch, Associate

Economists

Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Messrs. Partee and Williams, Advisers, Division

of Research and Statistics, Board of

Governors

Mr. Hersey, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Axilrod, Chief, Government Finance Section,

Division of Research and Statistics,

Board of Governors

Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

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Mr. Patterson, First Vice President of the

Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta

Messrs. Eisenmenger, Eastburn, Mann, Jones, Tow,

and Green, Vice Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of Boston, Philadelphia,

Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, and

Dallas, respectively

Mr. Lynn, Director of Research, Federal Reserve

Bank of San Francisco

Mr. Monhollon, Assistant Vice President,

Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond

Mr. Geng, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. MacLaury, Manager, Foreign Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Kareken, Consultant, Federal Reserve Bank

of Minneapolis

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee

held on June 15, 1965, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the System Open

Market Account on foreign exchange market operations and on Open

Market Account and Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the

period June 15 through July 7, 1965, and a supplemental report for

July 8 through July 12, 1965.

Copies of these reports have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. MacLaury

It

said that the gold stock would again remain unchanged this week.

now looked as though the extra $100 million in gold transferred to

the Stabilization Fund at the time of payment of the U.S. gold

subscription to the International Monetary Fund at the end of June

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should meet requirements through the remainder of July.

gold sales of any significant size in

The only

prospect at the moment were

$34 million to France and $12.5 million to Austria.

During June,

Mr.

MacLaury observed,

London market was generally lower than it

demand for gold in

had been in

the

earlier months

this year, and the pool was able to nake some progress toward re

couping its

previous deficit.

By the end of June,

sufficient gold

had been accumulated for the Bank of England to make a distribution

of $44 million,

of which the U.S.

received half.

There was some

further accumulation during the early part of July, but last

(July 9) demand again picked up temporarily,

high as $35.11-1/2 after the fixing.

Friday

sending the price as

At the moment, the pool's

position was about the. same as at the end of June--a net deficit of

approximately $150 million--and the price

had now fallen back below

$35.10-1/2.

Mr. MacLaury noted that supplies of gold coming onto the

London market this year had been augmented to a considerable extent

by South African sales of gold from their reserve holdings,

from new production,

deficit.

apart

reflecting that country's balance of payments

Whereas sales from South African reserves added only about

$60 million to market supplies in

all

of 1964,

they had added some

$200 million during the first half of this year alone.

Thus, while

Russian sales had continued to be conspicuously absent for over a

year, the gold market had benefited from a source of supply that

could not be counted on indefinitely.

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In the exchange markets, Mr. MacLaury said, attention con

tinued to focus on sterling, and on the figures that gave clues to

its prospects.

For example, it was the disappointing trade figures

for the month of May, reldased at the beginning of the current

reporting period, that touched off several days of selling pressure

and cost the Bank of England more than $150 million in support

operations.

More recently, the spot rate had held pretty much on

its own, and in fact had withstood some fairly heavy pressure from

official operations by the Bank of England designed to roll over

maturing forward contracts.

extended,

U.K.

it

Not all the maturing contracts were

and paying off a part of them put an additional burden on

reserves.

Given the keen market interest in U.K. statistics,

was decided to draw on the Federal Reserve swap to the extent of

$360 million at the end of June to reduce the published reserve

decline to $67 million.

As it turned out, the market was not

visibly affected one way or the other by the reserve announcement,

despite the fact that the public statement said that use had been

made of the swap arrangement.

Subsequently,

Mr.

No figure, of ccurse, was given.

MacLaury continued,

the U.K.

repaid $85

million of its drawing from unutilized proceeds of its previous IMF

drawing, reducing the amount presently outstanding on the Federal

Reserve swap to $275 million.

The market was once again focusing

on the trade figures which had been released today.

imports down noticeably from their swollen May level.

They showed

But exports

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also were slightly lower,

ment.

thus failing to show the hoped-for improve

The market's preoccupation with those figures--not just for a

single month,

standable.

of course,

but over a period of time--was quite under

The Chancellor of the Exchequer had himself indicated that

developments in

the next few months would be of crucial importance in

determining whether further measures were required.

On the continent, Mr. MacLaury observed, currency rates

fluctuated somewhat in

response to changing money market conditions

in Germany, Switzerland, and the Netherlands.

On balance, however,

the System had been able to make substantial further progress in

reducing its

commitments in

guilders and Swiss francs,

case partly through the use of marks.

in

the latter

Specifically, the drawing on

the Bank for International Settlements swap, which was $55 million

at the beginning of the period, had been entirely liquidated.

Roughly

$15 million equivalent of the necessary Swiss francs were purchased

from the Swiss National Bank when that Bank needed dollars.

The

remaining $40 million equivalent were obtained through the BIS by

selling marks against Swiss francs on a covered basis,

using marks

acquired either in the market or from the Bundesbank, which had

undertaken some support operations as the mark rate softened.

In

effect that meant that while the System still had $40 million

equivalent of forward commitments in Swiss francs, it had improved

its overall position in foreign currencies by the $40 million

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equivalent of marks acquired.

Apart from that operation, the

System also purchased $8 million equivalert of Swiss francs from

the Swiss National Bank and paid off the last of its market forward

commitments in Swiss francs.

As the Committee would recall, those

commitments were initially entered into last December to provide

cover for Swiss commercial bank dollar investments that otherwise

would have been sold to the central bank.

Similarly, Mr. MacLaury continued, during the period the

System was able to buy some $52 million equivalent of guilders from

the Netherlands Bank which had sold dollars in its market apparently

mainly in connection with commercial demand.

Those guilders were

used by the System to pay off maturing forward contracts, reducing

the amount outstanding in guilder market forwards to only $2.5 million,

which matured later this month.

It was expected that the System's

remaining forward guilder commitments would be liquidated by the end

of July.

In addition, the System had beer. able to reduce its $10

million equivalent sterling-guilder swap by half during the period,

also purchasing the required guilders from the Netherlands Bank.

All in all, it was evident that considerable progress had been made

in reducing System commitments in those particular currencies without

recourse to funding or gold sales.

In the case of Italy, Mr. MacLaury said, the picture was

quite different.

The Italian authorities had been taking in

dollars at a very rapid rate.

Reserves had not risen more than

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they had mainly because of the very large swap transactions between

the Exchange Office and the Italian commercial banks.

In effect,

some $900 million had been shifted back out of official reserves

through such operations during the first half of this year.

The

present prospect, however, was that the Italian balance of payments

would be in surplus by more than $1 billion this year.

Unrelated to

market developments, but of interest to the Committee, was the fact

that the System had been able to pay down $5 million equivalent to

the Bank of Italy during the period through acquisition of lire from

Ceylon, which in turn had drawn them from the IMF.

There was still

a strong likelihood that the System's remaining drawings on the Bank

of Italy, in the amount of $163 million, would be liquidated by the

end of July as a result of a U.S. drawing of lire on the IMF and

issuance of a lire-denominated bond by the Treasury.

Likewise,

it was hoped that most, if not all, of the U.S. debtor position

under the Belgian swap arrangement--which during the period fi.st

rose by $20 million to $80 million and subsequently (on July 12) was

reduced by $10 million--could be liquidated by similar means.

Finally, Mr. MacLaury noted that the Canadian dollar had

had a softer tone in the spot market recently, dropping on Friday

to $0.9219 and eliciting some support from the Bank of Canada.

On

the other hand, the premium on the three-month forward Canadian

dollar at one point rose to well over 1/2 per cent, although it was

now back down to levels around 1/4 per cent.

The fluctuations in

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the forward rate appeared to be related to the bunchings of

repatriations of U.S. funds from Canada, and did not seem to

have generated any significant movement of funds in the reverse

direction.

Mr. Daane asked about the implications of the transaction

Mr. MacLaury had described, in which the System in effect had

converced $40 million of its Swiss franc debt to the BIS into a

third-currency swap of marks against Swiss francs.

Mr.

MacLaury replied that there was a distinction--although

one that should not be pushed too far--between a System debt incurred

by drawing on a standby swap arrangement and a third-currency swap

such as had been arranged with the BIS.

In the former case, the

System was simply in a short position on a foreign currency; in the

latter case, its net position was not a short one.

In the trans

action in question an opportunity had arisen for the System to

acquire marks, and it had appeared desirable to use those marks to

reduce the System's short position in Swiss francs.

Because the

transaction was a covered one there remained an obligation to pay

Swiss francs to the BIS in three months, but on a balance-sheet

basis an offsetting asset now existed in the form of a liability

of the BIS to pay the System an equivalent amount in marks at that

time.

The need for transactions of this type arose mainly because,

while other countries could settle debts to third countries by

transferring dollars, the U.S. could not directly pay a debt in,

say, Swiss francs by use of another currency such as the mark.

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In response to questions by Mr. Hickman, Mr. MacLaury said

that under the arrangement made the System was exposed to the risk

of loss in the unlikely event of devaluation of the mark.

Since

there was a similar risk in connection with outright holdings of marks,

however, the System's exposure in this respect had not been increased

by the transaction.

Dollar limits were, of course, set both on the

System's spot holdings of foreign currencies and on forward trans

actions by the Committee's continuing authority directive for foreign

currency operations.

Mr. Shepardson noted that at the previous meeting of the

Committee there had been some discussion of System drawings under

the swap line with the National Bank of Belgium.

At that time Mr.

Coombs had indicated that the one-year period in which drawings were

to be fully liquidated,

in

under the terms of the Committee's guidelines,

the Belgian case would elapse in

August.

Mr.

Coombs also had

expressed the hope that the account with the Belgian Bank would be

cleared up in the first week in July.

Manager's supplementary report,

However, in the Special

distributed this morning,

it

was

indicated that a maturing $5 million drawing on the Belgian Bank

had been renewed yesterday for three more months.

He asked whether

that renewal implied that the Belgian account would not be cleared

up shortly.

Mr. MacLaury responded that the three-month period of the

renewal was a technical matter--all drawings and renewals under

the standby swap lines had three-month terms--and it did not imply

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that the drawing actually would be kept on the books for that period.

The Account Management hoped to have the Belgian drawings liquidated

by the end of July, but the precise timing depended on the date of

the prospective U.S. drawing on the IMF.

It was his understanding

that for technical reasons the Treasury had postponed the planned

Fund drawing, but was still expecting to make it in the month of July.

Mr. Shepardson then asked what would be done about the drawings

on the Belgian line in the event that the Treasury decided not to draw

on the IMF.

Mr. MacLaury replied that if it were not possible to acquire

the Belgian francs necessary to repay the drawings within the one

year limit the ultimate means of settlement would be by sale of gold.

In his opinion, however, the Treasury would prefer to arrange for

settlement through an IMF drawing.

Mr. Shepardson commented that when the Committee began its

program of reciprocal currency arrangements the understanding had

been that drawings would be used to counter temporary flows that

were considered likely to be quickly reversible.

While he realized

that the one-year limit established in the guidelines had not yet

elapsed in the case of the present drawings on the Belgian swap

line, in his judgment those drawings were being extended beyond what

had been originally contemplated.

Chairman Martin remarked that it would be desirable for the

Committee to continue to watch the situation with respect to the

Belgian swap line closely.

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Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote

the System open market transactions in

foreign currencies during the period

June 15 through July 12, 1965, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. MacLaury then asked the Committee's approval of renewal

of four standby swap arrangements that would mature soon, with no

changes in size or maturity.

The arrangements in question were

those with the Austrian National Bank, maturing July 26, 1965, in

the amount of $50 million, for a term of 12 months; with the Bank

of Japan, maturing July 30, in the amount of $250 million, also for

a period of 12 months; with the German Federal Bank, maturing August

9, in the amount of $250 million, for six months; and with the Bank

of France, maturing August 10, in the amount of $100 million, for three

months.

In response to questions by Mr. Mitchell, Mr. MacLaury said

that one drawing had been made on the Austrian swap arrangement since

its initiation, and that the Austrians had been following a program

of regular gold purchases from the U.S. since February, buying $12-1/2

million of gold each month.

He understood, however, that their gold

purchase program would be completed within a month or two.

Mr. Mitchell then remarked that he had had some question

about the desirability of a swap arrangement with Austria, and his

doubts were reinforced by the fact that the Austrians were buying

gold rather than utilizing the swap line.

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Mr. MacLaury commented that, as Mr. Shepardson had indicated,

the initial intent was to use swap drawings to deal with temporary

and reversible flows.

The one drawing the System had made on this

swap line had proved not reversible, and accordingly had been settled

in gold; and the Austrians' program of gold purchases this year was

related to earlier dollar accruals that did not appear to be reversible.

In his judgment there was no conflict between the existence of the

standby swap arrangement and the gold purchases Austria had been

making.

Mr. Daane remarked that he thought there was an advantage to

the United States in the System's swap line with the Austrian National

Bank.

Renewals of the standby swap

arrangements with the Austrian National

Bank, the Bank of Japan, the German

Federal Bank, and the Bank of France,

as recommended by Mr. MacLaury, were

approved.

Mr. MacLaury then recommended renewal for three months of a

swap drawing on the Bank of Italy, in the amount of $50 million,

that would mature on August 18.

Such approval would be a precaution

in the unlikely event that the prospective U.S. drawing on the IMF

was not made; he contemplated that the drawing on the Italian swap

would be paid off before the end of the month.

Possible renewal of the $50 million

drawing on the Bank of Italy was noted

without objection.

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Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Daane to comment on

developments at the three meetings he had attended in Paris the

past week.

Mr. Daane said he would not do more than touch on the

highlights of the meetings, which were of the Group of Ten Deputies,

Working Party 3 of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and

Development, and the Economic Policy Committee of the OECD, taking

place in that. order.

Only two substantive issues were discussed at

length at the Group of Ten Deputies meeting.

The first concerned

the question of renewal of the General Arrangements to Borrow; and the

second involved the disposition to be made of the so-called "Ossola

report"--the report of the Study Group on Creation of Reserve Assets.

As he had mentioned on a previous occasion, Mr. Daane said,

the General Arrangements to Borrow expired in October 1966 but their

renewal was required by October 1965.

It had been obvious in the

preliminary discussion by the Deputies at their meeting in May that

while the general sentiment was in favor of an extension, there was

considerable dissatisfaction with the structure of the GAB.

In

particular, opinions had differed with respect to duration.

Those

divergencies in view were carried forward to the recent meeting; all

of the Deputies agreed that the GAB should be renewed, despite some

dissatisfaction with certain technical aspects, but there was a sharp

division on the question of duration.

The original GAB had a four

year term, and the United States, Britain, Canada, Japan, and Sweden

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favored renewal for another four years.

France, Germany, the

Netherlands, and Italy favored renewal for only two years, on the

grounds that the longer term would imply too great a degree of

permanence to the GAB and would inhibit technical changes in the

Arrangements themselves.

More directly, Deputies from the latter

countries thought it would be unwise to extend the GAB for more

than two years since a study was under way of possible reforms of

the international monetary system.

Under Secretary Deming and others

presented the view that the Arrangements were not permanent since

they could be amended or terminated at any time, and could lie dormant

if not needed.

One of the major reasons advanced for a four-year

term was the possible effect on confidence of a shorter renewal.

The U.S. representatives directly rejected the view that there was

a tie between the term of the GAB and possible monetary reform.

Mr. Deming indicated that such a view implied much too inflexible

a timetable; it suggested that "new" monetary arrangements would be

in effect within two years.

Mr. Daane noted that the question of renewal of the GAB would

now go forward to the Ministers of the Group of Ten when they met in

Washington in September in connection with the World Bank-Fund

meetings.

The IMF view, as expressed by the Managing Director,

favored a four-year extension, on the grounds that the GAB dem

onstrated the existence of collective support for the international

monetary system and, more importantly, it made $6 billion of additional

resources available for the Fund.

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On the question of the disposition of the Ossola report,

Mr. Daane said, there was virtually unanimous agreement that the

report should be published, with France alone dissenting.

It was

decided to have the Secretariat group, including Robert Solomon

of the Board's staff and George Willis of the U.S. Treasury, work

out some minor changes in the format of the report, and to have

each country give its assent or not on the question of publication

by July 26,

Mr. Daane's personal expectation was that the report

would be published and available no later than sometime early in

the fall.

At the WP-3 meeting, Mr. Daane continued, the principal

focus was, of course, on the situation of the United Kingdom.

The

Working Party was unanimously of the opinion that the time had come

for Britain to consider implementing the earlier commitment by

Chancellor Callaghan, in his letter to the Managing Director of

the IMF, to the effect that further measures would be taken if

needed.

There was a growing lack of confidence in the private

financial ccmmunity with respect to the measures taken thus far.

Even the British Government's own forecasts now indicated a larger

deficit in the U.K. balance of payments this year than had been

expected.

British foreign trade developments were disappointing

and today's announcement showed that exports had declined further

in June.

Internally, wage and employment developments were not

satisfactory.

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The British representatives seemed to be somewhat surprised

by this Working Party attitude, Mr. Daane remarked.

They felt that

it was too early to expect substantial results from the measures

that had been adopted, and they thought there were indications

that those measures were beginning to take hold.

In that connec

tion they noted the flattening in the trend of retail sales,

evidencesof a slowdown in industrial production, declines in

housing starts, and a return of unemployment to its January level.

In their judgment the U.S. voluntary restraint program was having

an adverse impact on Britain's situation.

In any case, it was

the clear conclusion of the Working Party that the British should

be reviewing their situation and measures, and the British in

dicated that they were currently doing so.

There was considerable discussion at the WP-3 meeting of

the effects of the U.S. balance of payments program on international

liquidity, Mr. Daane said.

The Germans and the Swiss, in particular,

noted that they were pleased with any resultant reductions in

liquidity that were occurring, and the Germans thought that the

U.S. goal should be to attain a surplus in its international

payments.

There was some puzzlement expressed regarding the effect

of the program on liquidity in this country; the continental

representatives found it hard to understand why the repatriation

of U.S. funds had not added significantly to credit availability

in the United States.

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Mr. Daane went on to say that there were the usual country

reviews at the WP-3 meeting.

The paper by the OECD Secretariat

projected a surplus in the Italian balance of payments this year

of $1.4 or $1.5 billion, and a French surplus of around $3/4 billion.

The Italians were quite unhappy about the estimate for their country;

they indicated that they expected a substantial surplus but not one

as high as predicted.

The French, on the other hand, not only

accepted the Secretariat's estimate, but conceded that there also

would be a surplus in the franc area, of about $250-$300 million,

leading to a total surplus on the order of $1 billion.

The most interesting country presentation, in Mr. Daane's

judgment, concerned Germany.

It was clear that the Germans were

still struggling with an overheated econony and that they had no

intention of diminishing the degree of credit restraint being

exerted.

On the other hand, there was no intention of increasing

restraint ei:her, although there was some indication that if any

change were to be made it would be in the direction of further

tightening.

The discussion at the meeting of the Economic Policy

Committee of the OECD was, as usual, more formal than at the WP-3

meeting since the group was considerably larger, Mr. Daane remarked.

The theme was the general slackening of growth rates.

For most

of the countries represented, the 1965 growth rate was projected

to be below that of 1964.

Overall, the projected 1965 rate still

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averaged about 4-1/2 per cent, but projections for 1966 indicated

further slackening.

A great deal of concern was expressed by

speakers, including Mr. Ackley of the U.S., as to whether suf

ficiently expansionary policies were being followed.

For the

first time in the FPC in Mr. Daane's experience, France was

roundly criticized on that score; there was considerable discussion

of so-called stagnation in the French economy.

The representatives

of that country felt that their economy was recovering and that a

number of policy actions had been taken to assure recovery.

The

general tenor of the discussion, however, was contrary to that

view.

There also was a feeling that economic growth in the U.S.

would be slowing down, and that this country should follow a more

expansionary fiscal policy.

Indications that the U.S. authorities

stood ready to take additional budgetary actions to stimulate the

economy if necessary were noted with approval.

As to monetary

policy, as uual the U.S. was urged to tighten further.

The Germans

in particular felt that a firmer monetary policy now would give U.S.

monetary authorities additional elbowroom if it became necessary

to move toward ease before the end of 1965 or in 1966.

The discussion of the British situation at the EPC meeting

was simply an echo of that at the WP-3 meeting, Mr. Daane said.

The British were urged to take any further measures needed "in good

time" to achieve equilibrium in their balance of payments by the

end of 1966.

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Following Mr. Daane's remarks, Chairman Martin reported

briefly on discussions that had preceded the proposal for an

international conference on world monetary reform made in a speech

by Secretary of the Treasury Fowler on the preceding Saturday

(July 10), on a draft of which the Chairman had been invited to

comment.

He went on to note that the advisory committee on

monetary reform recently appointed by President Johnson would

meet for the first time on Friday, under the Chairmanship of

former Treasury Secretary Dillon.

Discussions of the matter

would be proceeding in coming weeks, Chairman Martin observed.

As he had advised Secretary Fowler before the latter's speech,

he was sure that the System would be as helpful as it could in

assuring that they proceeded in the best way possible.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the

members of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System

Open Market Account covering open market operations in U.S.

Government securities and bankers' acceptances for the period

June 15 through July 7, 1965, and a supplemental report for July

8 through July 12, 1965.

in the files

Copies of both reports have been placed

of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes

commented as follows:

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The money market was active in the past four weeks as

the banking system responded to heavy credit demands over

the June corporate tax date and beyond, passed through the

June 30 statement date, and met the large currency needs

associated with the July 4 holiday. The major money market

banks came under increased reserve pressure, and their strong

bid for Federal funds kept the rate at 4-1/8 per cent on

most days.

Indeed, given the magnitude of reserve needs and

the uncertainties of a period of large financial flows,

there was some trading of nominal amounts of Federal funds

for the first time at 4-1/4 per cent, and member bank bor

rowing from the Reserve Banks rose above $1 billion on two

days. Federal funds became redundant on one occasion as

well, and relatively large reserve excesses remained unused

at money center banks at the close of each statement week,

attesting to the complications banks experienced during this

period in managing their reserve positions.

The uncertainties, stemming from the large and, at

times, unexpected ebbs and flows in demands placed upon the

money market during the period, also posed difficulties for

the System in meeting the substantial reserve needs that

emerged. Nevertheless, the System was able to meet these

needs with only limited recourse to purchases of Treasury

bills in the market. The Treasury's willingness to run its

balances at the Reserve Banks below the $900 million level

that ordinarily prevails was a major help in supplying

reserves, and, fortuitously, various foreign operations

turned out, on balance, to supply reserves when they were

most needed. Even so, open market operations still had to

supply $564 million reserves net over the four weeks, and

day-to-day operations involved transactions of much greater

magnitudes as the System sought to avoid placing downward

pressure on Treasure bill rates.

Over $2.3 billion repurchase agreements against Govern

ment securities and bankers' acceptances were made and

terminated during the interval, and a total of $280 million

Treasury bills were purchased directly from foreign accounts.

In addition, the good availability of coupon issues throughout

the period enabled the System to provide $245 million reserves

through this medium, mainly during periods when prices were

steady or declining slightly. In fact, availability was such

that the largest daily amount of purchases ($81 million)

could be accomplished by means of a full market-go-around.

Purchases of about $250 million Treasury bills were made in

the market on June 16, but part of these acquisitions repre

sented weekly and tax anticipation bills which were permitted

to mature soon thereafter, and no bills were purchased in the

market after that date.

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Treasury bill rates moved generally lower in the

first part of the period, as reinvestment demand arising

from maturing June tax bills was augmented by commercial

bank demand for bills

prior to the June 30 statement date.

The 3-month bill

declined to 3.77 per cent bid at one

point.

Subsequently, the return flow of bills

from

banks, higher dealer financing costs, and disappointment

at the lack of expected large-scale System buying caused

bill

rates to back up about 10 basis points.

The

absence of System demand at this time was all the more

important since dealers had built up inventories in

anticipation of such buying.

With inventories high,

dealer bidding in the last few weekly bill

auctions was

more cautious. Rates for the 3- and 6-month bills

in

yesterday's auction were set at about 3.88 and 3.93

per cent, 9 and 6 basis points higher than four weeks

earlier.

In the capital markets, the period was marked by a

further decline of stock prices and a subsequent re

covery. In contrast, prices of Treasury notes and bonds

were narrowly mixed. Quotations tended to move higher

at times when investment buying appeared but tended to

recede whenever activity receded.

There has been an

underlying confidence among market participants, however,

in the viability of current interest rates--a feeling

that drew strength from the uncertainties reflected in

the stock market.

Dealers have generally acted to

maintain their positions in coupon securities at a

high level.

The tone in the corporate and municipal bond

markets has improved somewhat since the last meeting

as a large volume of business has been transacted

around recent price levels. More recent additions of

new corporate issues to the calendar, and the possibility

that new offerings of bank capital notes may be in

the works, have prevented any major improvement in

Tax-exempt bonds remain

corporate bond prices, however.

in plentiful supply, and while investors appear willing

to place funds around current levels, they do not

seem ready to chase prices higher.

I might mention at this time that the Treasury's

August refinancing, involving somewhat over $3 billion

public holdings, will be undertaken before the next

meeting of the Committee. The advisory groups will

convene in Washington on July 27, and an announcement

of the terms might be expected the following day.

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Market participants feel that the operation will be

routine. In view of the still-sizable supply of

longer bonds undistributed, the market expects the

Treasury to confine its financing to the short-term

area--possibly a single issue in the 2-year range.

As was reported to the Committee in the written

reports, we have ceased trading with C. F. Childs &

Company, which terminated its operations in Government

and certain other securities on June 30 after more

than half a century of activity. This withdrawal

followed capital losses in recent years in activities

unrelated to the Government securities market. The

withdrawal was accomplished gracefully and had no impact

on the market or its operations.

Thereupon, upon motion duly

made and seconded, and by unanimous

vote, the open market transactions

in Government securities and bankers'

acceptances during the period June 15

through July 12, 1965, were approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

Chairman Martin called at this point for the staff economic

and financial reports, supplementing the written reports that had

been distributed prior to the meeting, copies of which have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

Mr. Noyes made the following statement on economic condi

tions:

You have probably seen, as I have, quite a bit

lately in the press and elsewhere about the "new economics."

Let me suggest that we have a "new semantics" to go along

with it. In this new semantics we refer to things as

unchanged when they are increasing at the same rate as

they were in the previous period, and as going up only

when they are going up faster than they were going up

before.

There is nothing wrong with this, so long as we

are careful to be sure that we understand one another.

It should be clear that when we say things were down a

bit from the first to the second quarter what we mean

is that they were up less, and when we say they were

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substantially unchanged from May to June, we mean that

they were expanding at about the same pace.

In the day-to-day production and distribution of goods

and services, we have not seen any of the pyrotechnics that

turned up in the financial and international areas in the

last four weeks. In fact, the broad aggregate measures of

income, expenditure, and physical output are almost all

continuing to move frighteningly close to the rates pro

jected around the turn of the year by our own staff, and

by most other careful analysts of the economic outlook.

This is true of GNP, which we now expect to be up about

$7 billion in the second quarter; of industrial production,

which has leveled off at the advanced 141-142 rate; of

personal income, which is actually running a bit ahead of

expectations; and of unemployment, which is a bit lower--that

is, better than--expected. As with the balance of payments,

however, we are warned that at least a part of the improvement

in unemployment is not basic. "Basic" is another word that

occupies a prominent place in the new semantics, but I must

confess I am not able to define it satisfactorily for you.

The "on track" performance by the real economy might

be presumed to provide some grounds for confidence--if not

downright optimism--as to the future. But, in fact, one

does not even have to venture out into the turbulent

financial markets or the troubled international waters to

lose any complacency he might have mustered. Both the

recent behavior of prices and apparent rate of inventory

accumulation are enough to give one pause.

I have spoken about both of these troublesome

areas on several occasions in recent months. I do not

want to seem to be crying a wolf that never comes, but

they continue to be a cause for concern, if not alarm.

Despite the slowdown in the economy (note that

here again I am employing the new semantics referred to

earlier), prices have continued to creep up. From time

to time, chere have been signs that the advanced prices

of some of the basic industrial materials, especially

the nonferrous metals, might have reached their peak

and be about to move down a little, but significant

declines have failed to materalize.

As Appendix C to the green book 1/ points out,

the upward pressure on prices has not yet been diffused

1/ The report, "Current Economic and Financial Conditions,"

prepared by the Board's staff for the Committee.

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through the whole structure of prices and costs. One

important reason that this has not occurred has been

the general absence of inflationary expectations. The

restoration of a climate of stable price expectations

is much to be desired, and, is at least one benefit

that we can hope will flow from current moderation in

the pace of expansion.

The other major concern to which I would draw your

attention is that we have had, even in the official

statistics, a considerable inventory buildup, and there

is impressive evidence that even a greater share of

recent output than these data indicate remains in the

hands of processors and distributors. Like price

stability, the absence of rapid inventory buildup

had been, until last winter, an unusual feature of

this period of expansion, and one which contributed

importantly to its sustainability.

It is very hard for me to ascribe either recent

price behavior or the recent pace of irventory

accumulation to a maladroit monetary policy. It is

equally difficult for me to find convincing evidence

that there is any cause-and-effect relationship between

the modest restriction of reserve availability earlier

this year and the slower rate of increase in real out

put since April, especially in the light of the latest

credit developments which Mr. Koch will discuss.

Under present policy, I think it i. not unreasonable

to hope that the recent upward price movements will

turn out to be only a flurry and that we will return to

the more stable pattern which characterized this expansion

up to the third quarter of 1964. We can also hope the

accumulated inventory may be absorbed without untoward

repercussions. It is hard for me to see that a change

in policy in either direction at this time would signif

icantly increase the chances that either of these things

will happen. I am reasonably certain that a change now

would get more blame than it deserved if we subsequently

find ourselves in either an inflationary spiral or the

downphase of an inventory cycle.

Mr. Hickman asked whether Mr. Noyes had May developments in

mind when he referred to the "recent" upward movement of prices.

Mr. Noyes replied that his thinking had been based primarily on

appendix C of the green book, which generally included data

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through May.

However, some estimates of price developments in

June were given in the appendix and also in the body of the green

book.

The June estimates had struck him as being neither more

disturbing than those through May nor particularly reassuring;

they indicated that average prices were continuing to rise.

Mr. Hickman said he thought that June price developments

definitely were not disturbing.

Omitting meats and livestock,

which were responding to supply conditions, price movements in

June appeared in the main to be down rather than up; yet the

discussions in the press, like Mr. Noyes' comments, suggested a

continued bubbling up of prices.

He did not see such a situation

in the latest figures although, of course, it might appear in

data for subsequent months.

Mr. Noyes said that price movements in June evidently

were mixed, but he agreed that the rise in the overall index

probably would be due largely to increases

components.

in the agricultural

It was true the most recent flurry of increases was

a May rather than a June phenomenon, but the uptrend in average

industrial prices actually had been in process since the third

quarter of 1964.

He certainly hoped that this trend was flattening

out.

Mr. Swan asked whether Mr. Noyes felt that rapid inventory

accumulation was still concentrated primarily in a few areas or was

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becoming more widely diffused.

Mr. Noyes replied that the official

inventory data were difficult to interpret; among other problems,

they were reported late and the original figures often were revised

substantially.

As a result, there was some risk of over-interpretation.

Unquestionably, accumulation had been rapid at steel and durable

goods manufacturing industries and, recently, at automobile dealers.

Members of the Board's staff agreed that inventory growth recently

had been rapid in the aggregate and reasonably widespread, but there

were differences of view about degree.

Some thoughtful analysts on

the staff felt that the accumulation had been much larger and more

widespread than the official figures indicated.

Mr. Ell.s noted that there was a reference in the staff

materials to the large additions to industrial capacity coming on

line as capital expenditures continued high.

He asked whether an

estimate was available of the current rate of capacity utilization

in manufacturing.

Mr. Noyes replied that present guesses of the rate of capac

ity use were in the neighborhood of 90 per cent.

However,here also

he was highly skeptical of the advisability of pressing the figures

very far.

The margins of error in capacity figures were quite large,

particularly relative to the sizes of the changes that might occur in

the short run.

From what was known about additions to capacity and

changes in the rate of production, it seemed to be a reasonable

presumption that presently and for some time to come capacity would be

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growing faster than output; that was about as far as he was prepared

to go.

Mr. Hickman commented that business cycles often originated

in inventory developments, and in his judgment the inadequacies of

present inventory statistics placed the Committee in the dangerous

position of having to guess about the nature of actual events.

He

noted that the Federal Reserve was in process of discontinuing data

collection for department stores, and indicated that it might be

desirable for the System to undertake to learn more about inventory

developments than presently available data revealed.

Perhaps the

Board's staff might explore the possibilities of such a program

and make recommendations.

Mr. Noyes observed that the inadequacies of present

inventory data did not result primarily from lack of resources

for compilation--the Government was devoting a substantial volume

of resources to that purpose--but from the intransigence of the

statistical problems.

Thus, there was some doubt in his mind

about the amount of improvement that could be achieved by the

addition of System resources to those presently available.

However,

he would be happy to ask the Board's Division of Research and

Statistics to make some preliminary investigations of the possibilities

for data improvement.

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Mr. Hickman remarked that the System might have one

possible advanage in that businesses frequently were willing

to report information to it that they were reluctant to reveal

to others.

Chairman Martin noted that inventories had long been

recognized as one of the most seriously deficient areas in the

body of available statistics.

He recalled that in the mid-1950's

the Board had sponsored a study by a consultant committee of the

problem in that area, as well as in certair others, at the request

of the Subcommittee on Economic Statistics of what was then known

as the Jcint Committee on the Economic Report of the Congress.

agreed that it would be desirable to continue work in the area.

Mr. Koch then made the following statement concerning

financial developments:

Several months have now elapsed since the two modest

moves in the direction of monetary restraint taken in

February and March. Therefore, I should like to address

my brief remarks this morning to three questions: (1)

What have been the apparent results of these moves; (2)

with the benefit of hindsight, have these results, on

the whole, been appropriate; and (3)what do they suggest

as to the most appropriate posture for current policy.

Recert policy can appropriately be characterized

as one of moderate restraint. The oft-maligned but still

useful short-run guide to policy, free or net borrowed

reserves, has changed from a positive figure of about

$100 million on average over the three months ending with

January to a negative figure of between $150 and $200

million recently. Member bank borrowings have risen

from about $300 million to almost $600 million. Changes

of almost $300 million in these indicators are large ones

for such a short period of time.

He

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This rather sharp increase in the degree of pressure

on bank reserve positions has been occasioned by a desire

to achieve tauter money market conditions, conditions

more consistent with the 4 per cent discount rate adopted

last November. Even so, we have seen the Treasury bill

rate become quite disassociated, for a time at least, from

more restrictive bank reserve positions and other indicators

of the tone and feel of the money market. Most recently,

though, bill rates appear to be rejoining the money market

team.

Turning to the more basic financial indicators of

policy, events of the recent past indicate once again how

much financial developments depend not only on monetary

policy but also on market forces as well as other policy

measures. With the liquidity of business corporations

becoming more limited relative to financing needs, their

demand for bank loans has continued strong, and they have

stepped up the volume of their capital market financing in

recent months. This has occurred at a time when banks

have been under somewhat more reserve pressure, when

their liquidity has declined to a relatively low level,

and when time and savings deposit grcwth has slackened,

following the initial rapid inflow last winter when

interest rates on these deposits were raised.

Banks have had to liquidate Government securities

and on balance have apparently reduced their rate of

acquisition of other securities in order to meet the

strong loan demands. There was a sharp rise in bank

holdings of securities other than U.S. Governments in

June, but the rise was concentrated at New York City banks

and was no doubt associated in large part with a temporary

and unu:ual spurt in Federal agency and municipal tax

warrant financing.

The end result of all of these banking developments

has been a continuing quite rapid rate of expansion of

total reserves and credit, but with a larger proportion

of the reserves having to be obtained by borrowing and

with credit obtainable only at somewhat higher costs and

under somewhat more restrictive lending terms. Money

supply growth has been quite moderate for the year to

date, about 2-1/2 per cent, almost all of which was

concentrated in June.

The cost and availability of most types of capital

market financing, as well as bank financing, has become

a little more restrictive in recent months, due in the

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main to a large increase in new flotations of corporate

and municipal bonds, and to the public's reappraisal

of stock values. Thus, yields on both new corporate

bonds and on outstanding State and local government

bonds have risen about 25 basis points above the early

year levels.

Average stock prices are down about 5

per cent from their mid-May peak, and therefore dividend

yields are up about 20 basis points.

So much for what has happened. Has this been

appropriate? I think so. We have permitted sharp

expansion in bank reserves and bank credit to occur, but

have allowed these expansions to have some self-limiting

effects, through pressure on member bank borrowings in

the case of reserves and on interest rates and other lending

terms in the case of bank credit.

Some of the recent credit expansion has been due to

temporary factors such as the prolonged steel strike threat.

Moreover, most of the expansion is but one side of a financial

coin, the other side of which is savings--savings the holders

of which wish to hold in liquid form.

We need much more

information and analysis of who owes the increasing volume

of credit and the resources they are likely to have to

service and repay it, before we can conclude from the total

credit figures, or from the bank proportion thereof, that

the recent large credit rise poses a threat to further

sustainable economic growth.

As for the relationship of recent policy to inter

national financial flows, whatever domestic credit easing

effects might have resulted from reduced U.S. foreign

lending and investing and the repatriation of liquid funds

previously held abroad have been more than offset by the

combined restraining effects of our policy and strong

domestic credit demands.

Finally, what does all this suggest as to the most

appropriate policy under current conditions? In my view,

the restraining effects of past policy changes and market

developments have not yet all been felt. For some time

business and bank liquidity have been declining gradually

but steadily; now bank credit terms and terms for long-term

financing are becoming more restraining. These are the

financial terms that most directly affect decisions to

spend and invest.

Under these circumstances, my own preference is for

no change in policy at the present time. I say this with

recognition of the facts that the full effects of policy

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come only after substantial lags and that we may be in the

later stages of the current economic expansion. Further

restraining action strikes me as too risky, both because

of the uncertain basic strength of the domestic economic

situation and because of the uncertainties, at least for

the short-run, created by recent stock market developments.

In any case, because of the upcoming Treasury financing,

any further restraining move would have to be prompt in

timing and moderate in nature.

Easing action also seems to me to be premature. With

lasting balance of payments improvement still a hope rather

than a reality, the domestic economic situation should more

clearly call for easing before we actively seek it through

monetary policy.

Mr. Hersey then presented the following statement on the

balance of payments:

In evaluating the present state of the balance of pay

ments, the two chief considerations to bear in mind are

that the initial impacts of the President's program have

been large, and that a very substantial deterioration has

occurred since last autumn in the current account--specifi

cally, a shrinkage in the merchandise trade surplus.

Just because the initial impacts of the President's

program on the capital account have been large, the

program cannot be expected to hold down the deficit later

in the year in anything like the degree it has done so

up to now.

The shrinkage in our trade surplus since last autumn,

which amounts to more than $2 billion at an annual rate,

has been hidden from casual view by the distortions of

foreign trade movements caused by the dock strike. These

distortions made the second-quarter trade surplus larger

than it would otherwise have been, and, along with the reflux

of bank credit, this produced a balance of payments surplus

in the second quarter instead of a deficit.

With data now in for the six-month period December

through May, it is evident that the shrinkage of the trade

surplus has gone farther and faster than was anticipated

in projections of the balance of payments made by an inter

departmental group not very long ago. Imports have been

rising sharply. In the second quarter, after adjustment

for the strike distortion, they were probably already above

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the $20 billion annual rate projected for the year.

Exports, on the other hand, have remained near last autumn's

high level, and below the lower edge of the wide range that

was allowed for in the export projection.

The various considerations I have mentioned make it

likely that the balance of payments deficit for the full

year 1965 will be nearer $1-1/2 billion than $3/4 billion.

(These were the two ends of the overall deficit projection.)

With a seasonally adjusted net deficit of $1/2 billion

behind us in the first half, a seasonally adjusted deficit

of the order of magnitude of $1 billion lies ahead in the

second half.

It would be premature to interpret the leveling off

in our exports since the autumn of 1964 as a sign of a

deteriorating competitive position for the United States.

In part, it has been due to agricultural rather than

manufactured exports. In part, like the British, we are

being affected by the leveling off in import purchases

of nonindustrial countries. A sign of more fundamental

trouble may be the sharp rise in our imports of consumer

goods and capital equipment, as well as of steel and

other materials.

As the autumn period of seasonal strain on sterling

approaches, the question of its possible impact on the

U.S. balance of payments is going to become acute. I

should like to say a little about this.

Whatever shadings of views there may be about Britain's

problems--whatever the degree of pessimism about Britain's

ability to work out of its difficulties in the longer run,

and whatever the degree of optimism that Britain's present

policies will deal successfully with :he immediate crisiseveryone can agree on one thing, and that is that British

im:orts are going to fall significantly before long. Hopes

of a marked acceleration in British exports are diminishing

in the present world trade situation, and the urgently

needed short-run adjustment in Britain's trade balance

must therefore be made mainly in imports. British imports

are either going to fall as a result of present policies,

or, if not, then as a result of more drastic measures which

will become necessary.

The fall in British imports may come at a time when

U.S. imports may be leveling off after the steel settlement

has been reached, French and Japanese imports may not yet

be rising, and anti-inflationary policies may be having

increasing success in Germany and other countries. Under

such conditions, a large fall in British buying abroad, no

matter how it is produced, will have a depressing influence

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in the world economy. An apparent dilemma will then be

posed for U.S. monetary policy:

it will be more evident

to everycne than it is right now that the U.S. balance

of payments needs strengthening yet drastic anti-inflation

ary measures by the United States at that time might cause

still further retardation of economic expansion throughout

the world, and even more difficulty ahead for our exports.

It seems to me that that will be a time above all

for us to accept a temporary further worsening of our

balance of payments, if it comes, without precipitate

counteraction. Under such circumstances we should rely

primarily on inter-central bank cooperation for defense

of the dollar, rather than on drastic restriction of

credit. I would like to add to this one other observation.

Our experience of a massive outflow of direct investment

and bank loans last January and February shows how im

portant it is that we definitely rule out exchange controls

from our chinking and that changes in the I.E.T. be completed

and go into effect before they are needed,

lest anticipatory

capital outflows be provoked again. And still one more

thing should be added. If, despite all expectations and

intentions to the contrary, sterling devaluation is forced

upon the British Government and British imports are reduced

in that way instead of some other, our dilemma would still

be essentially the one I have outlined, though heightened

by chances of speculative outflows; and the dangers for the

world, and for ourselves, of resolving the dilemma by

drastic credit restriction might be even greater.

I do not think that future possibilities of deflationary

strains in the world economy should influence Federal Reserve

policy in the meantime. How the British pull through

depends now primarily on what happens to the current account

in their balance of payments. Small interest rate variations

are of very minor consequence at present for capital move

ments to or from sterling. What happens to their current

account depends primarily on themselves, in the short time

perspective with which we are now concerned. So it seems

to me that Federal Reserve policy should be determined

now, as at any time in the last several years, by the

possibilities of gaining long-run benefits from moderate

slowing of bank credit expansion: benefits for price

stability, for economic growth uninterrupted by boom or

recession, and for the gradual approach of international

equilibrium. This way of looking at the policy problem

will continue to be relevant, it seems to me, until a

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time when it becomes clear that business cycle forces are in

a position such that continued restraint would precipitate

an otherwise avoidable recession.

Mr.

llis said he gathered from Mr. Hersey's remarks that the

surplus in the U.S.

trade account in 1965 would be less than the $6.7

billion recorded in 1964.

He asked whether Mr. Hersey would hazard

a guess as to what the 1965 figure would be.

Mr. Hersey replied that he would expect the trade surplus

this year to be on the order of $5 billion.

In his statement he had

noted that the shrinkage thus far this year from last autumn had

been over $2 billion at an annual rate,

but the surplus in

the autumn

had been at a higher rate than in 1964 as a whole.

Mr. Balderston commented that, as he understood Mr. Hersey's

remarks, he (Mr. Hersey) thought that domestic goals should be

stressed in formulating current monetary policy; that selective

controls should be abjured in dealing with the balance of payments

problem; and that in the event of devaluation of sterling or a

worsening in the U.S. balance of payments, main reliance should be

placed on cooperation among central banks for the defense of the

dollar.

If that was an accurate summary, how did Mr. Hersey think

it would be possible to obtain the cooperation of foreign central

banks if they already held all of the dollars that they wanted?

Mr. Hersey responded that he had not meant to imply that

U.S. monetary policy now or in the near future should be determined

solely on the basis of domestic considerations.

In his judgment it

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was important to continue to work toward states of credit availa

bility and capital market conditions that would facilitate approach

to equilibrium in the country's international payments; and he

believed that domestic price stability was of crucial importance

to the balance of payments.

As to inter-central bank cooperation in the hypothetical

event of sterling devaluation, Mr.

factors should be borne in mind.

be strong after devaluation,

Hersey continued,

he thought two

First, sterling presumably would

and Britain would be among the countries

able to assist in the defense of the dollar.

Secondly, much of the

reflow of funds to Britain that probably would develop would be

from the

continent, and insofar as it involved dollar holdings it

would come, to a great extent, from the Euro-dollar market.

cordingly,

even though foreign commercial bank holdings in

Ac

the U.S.

might tend to be drawn down, the Euro-dollar market would be tight

and that tightness would be communicated to national money markets

on the continent.

Given the kind of world outlook at that time

that he had outlined and that had been pictured at the recent Paris

meetings, he thought it would be not impossible to get the continental

central banks to agree that a tighter U.S. monetary policy was an

improper prescription for dealing with the situation that would then

face the United States.

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Mr. Maisel asked whether Mr. Hersey would agree that the

kinds of price increases that had occurred recently, such as in

industrial materials, served to improve the competitive position

of the United States and thus were favorable to the U.S. balance

of payments.

Mr. Hersey replied that increases in prices of steel and

machinery would not help the U.S. payments balance.

Mr. Hickman

remarked that price increases for nonferrous metals presumably

would be helpful to the extent that this country was a net exporter

of such metals.

Mr. Hersey said he doubted that the U.S. was a

net exporter of nonferrous metals at present.

Prior to this meeting the staff had prepared and distributed

certain questions suggested for consideration by the Committee, and

comments thereon.

These materials were as follows:

(1) Business conditions.--What, on balance, are prospects for economic

activity in the second half of the year, taking into account such

influences as the recent behavior of the stock market, the continued

accumulation of steel inventories, and Federal fiscal measures?

On balance, the most likely prospect continued to be for a

moderate rate of expansion in aggregate output in the second half

of the year. GNP appears to have increased some $7 billion in the

second quarter to an annual rate of about $656 billion. As demand

forces can now be assessed, gains in the next two quarters may be a

little larger than this, but are not likely to be large enough to

prevent some increase in the unemployment rate and some decline in

the rate of capacity utilization in manufacturing.

The recent stock market decline apparently has had little

effect on business activity. Consumer purchases of autos rose

sharply in June and total retail sales remained strong. No

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important reappraisals of business plans for fixed capital

expenditures have been reported.

Recent inventory developments continued to be dominated

by the buildup of stocksof steel and autos. The rate at which

steel users are accumulating stocks of that metal has slowed markedly

since April, but total steel stocks continue to rise rapidly as

mills restore inventories depleted earlier. Steel inventories are

now as high in relation to consumption as at the peaks of both the

1962 and 1963 buildups, and are considerably higher in absolute

terms. The prospective sharp decline in steel output after the

conclusion of present wage negotiations will be a contractive

influence on the economy, but its effect on the rate of overall

expansion should be moderated by a more expansive fiscal policy

and continued strength in other areas.

In this connection, recent surveys suggest continued high

levels of consumer spending for durable goods and rising business

expenditures on new plant and equipment; and outlays by State and

local governments no doubt will continue to advance at a steady

pace. Consumer spending will be stimulated by fiscal policy

measures, including the large and retroactive increases in social

security benefits expected to be enacted shortly and the recent

reduction in excise taxes. The Federal budget position on a

national income (annual rate) basis is likely to shift from a

surplus in the second quarter estimated at $1.3 billion to a

deficit in the second half of the year of almost $4 billion.

Similarly, the full employment surplus will show a large decline.

(2) Productivity and costs.--What do recert and prospective develop

ments in productivity and costs portend fcr prices and profit margins

in the next few months?

Recent tendencies in productivity and unit labor and materials

costs have been a little less favorable than earlier this year.

These tendencies as well as prospective developments, however, do not

in themselves appear to foreshadow widespread increases in costs and

prices, or any appreciable lowering of corporate profits and profit

margins from the high levels reached in the first quarter and

probably in the second quarter also.

The advance in productivity in manufacturing may have

slackened somewhat in the second quarter as growth in output slowed.

Meanwhile wage rates continued to advance at about the same pace as

earlier. As a result, the sizable further decline in unit labor

costs which occurred in the first quarter may not have been extended

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in the second. Costs of some industrial materials rose further but

large increases were confined mainly to nonferrous metals and mill

products.

On the assumption that output will continue to expand

moderately in the near future, productivity should continue to

rise, although probably less sharply than earlier in the expansion.

Unit labor costs are expected to be relatively stable. Although

future wage increases cannot be predicted, there is a chance of

a larger-than-guidepost settlement in steel, which might firm labor

demands in other contract negotiations. Recent settlements, however,

continue to show substantial diversity, reflecting variations in

specific industry conditions, with little spreading of the larger

than-guidepost increases that have occurred in some industries.

Wages, particularly of the 2 million workers covered by

escalator clauses, also will be affected by the step-up in consumer

prices arising mainly from reduced supplies of meats and of some

fruits and vegetables. Some of these supply and price developments

are temporary, but higher meat prices could persist into next year.

To some extent, the rise in consumer prices is being moderated by

the recent excise tax reduction.

With competition continuing active, management has held a

fairly tight rein on both overhead and direct costs. The high and

rising level of expenditures for new plant and equipment this year

will result in larger additions to industrial capacity than last

year. With the labor supply expected to grow more rapidly, manpower

supplies should be ample except for a few specialized skills.

In the steel industry, a package settlement above the

guideposts is possible, and the companies have indicated that an

increase as large as that in aluminum would be followed by a price

rise. There is a real question, however, whether such a price

increase could stick under the market conditions that are likely

to prevail for some time after a settlement; production will be

curtailed as large inventories are liquidated, and foreign

competition will continue.

(3) Foreign trade.--In the light of current economic and financial

trends in other countries, what can be said about the outlook for

world trade, and for U.S. exports in particular?

Key questions about the outlook for world trade and U.S.

exports concern the extent and timing of the adjustment of Britain's

payments position, the pace of economic advance in other industrial

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countries, and the payments positions of the nonindustrial nations.

Common Market imports in the near term are not likely to be affected

by the controversies recently in the news.

On the whole, the probability of rapid growth in world

trade over the rest of the year appears small.

Strengthening of

demands in a number of industrial countries may be counterbalanced

by reduction of demands in Britain, necessitated by its payments

deficit, and perhaps also by slowing of import growth in non

industrial countries.

In the circumstances, prospects for

significant increases in U.S. exports in this period seem poor.

The gain over 1964 levels may well be substantially less for

exports than for imports.

From the end of 1962 through 1964 world trade expanded

by 25 per cent and U.S. exports by somewhat more. Behind this

rapid expansion of trade lay an upsurge in activity in all

industrial countries, beginning in 1963, which contributed also

to higher export earnings of the nonindustrial countries.

In

1964, growth in aggregate world trade and in U.S. exports owed

a good deal to expanded purchases by the nonindustrial countries.

Slower growth of activity in industrial countries abroad during

1964--with recessions in Italy and France and a slowing of the

previously very rapid Japanese expansion--was accompanied by less

rapid expansion of trade among the industrial countries; purchases

by these countries from nonindustrial countries also rose less

rapidly.

Britain has now taken measures restricting demand but the

impact of these measures on domestic activity and the external

Imports in the three months

position has sc far not been large.

March-May were not much changed from the rate of the fourth quarter

Existing

of last year, and the trade deficit remained large.

measures may reasonably be expected to have an increasingly

restrictive impact on imports as the year goes on, but more drastic

measures may still prove necessary.

In continental Europe, recovery from recession was firmly

established in Italy by the turn of the year and guarded optimism

about future trends of activity in France began to appear in early

spring. Stimulative policy measures taken by these countries in

the past three months should help assure a stronger demand situation

Elsewhere on the continent, demands

in the latter half of the year.

have on the whole continued to press on plant capacity and labor

supplies, and little alteration in these conditions is in prospect.

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Anti-inflationary efforts, aided by higher imports from North

America, have been having some success; export price advances

may be slowing down in Europe whereas U.S. export unit values

were beginning to show increases late last year.

In Japan, activity leveled out around the end of 1964

after monetary policy had been tightened because of payments

difficulties and overbuilding of inventories and fixed investment.

However, Japanese exports began to rise rapidly during 1964 and

monetary policy has been eased this year; these developments

should eventually lead to renewed rises in activity and in imports.

In the nonindustrial countries as a group, imports had

by late last year caught up with the earlier expansion of their

export earnings, and reserve positions began to weaken, par

Imports of nonindustrial

ticularly in Australia and South Africa.

One possible indication

countries can now be expected to level out.

that a leveling out has already begun is that recent U.S. exports

to this group as a whole apparently have been below the advanced

levels of last autumn. At best, the nonindustrial countries are

not likely to be adding much to total world demand in the second

half of 1965.

(4) Federal finance.--What will be the likely implications of

Federal cash needs and debt management for credit markets in the

second half of 1965?

The Federal Government's demand on credit markets are

likely to be relatively moderate in the second half of 1965.

Because of the large cash balance at the end of June, the

Government probably will need to raise less new cash this year

than it did in the second half of 1964, even though the cash

deficit may be little different.

As in 1964, most of the new cash is likely to be raised

in the bill area, principally in the form of tax bills which can

be paid off out of the relatively large cash surplus expected

for the first half of 1966. However, the net increase in out

standing bills from Treasury operations in the second half of

1965 may turn out to be somewhat smaller than in the same period

of last year, when it was $5.5 billion. Nevertheless, the

effect of the increase will probably be sufficient to exert at

least seasonal upward pressure on bill rates from the supply

side as the year progresses.

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With respect to long-term markets, the Treasury accomplished

enough debt lengthening through its January advance refunding and

May refinancing to keep the average maturity of the debt at the

end of this year about the same as at the end of 1964. Therefore,

the pressure to engage in further debt lengthening is not as great

currently as it has been in the past. This does not, of course,

preclude such an action if market conditions are propitious. In

view of the present state of the bond market, including relatively

heavy dealer inventories of bonds, however, the Treasury is un

likely to consider major debt lengthening operations in the period

immediately ahead.

In the relatively moderate-sized Augus: refunding

(the public holds only $3.2 billion of the maturing securities), it

seems likely that the Treasury will stay in the short-or snort

intermediate-term area.

(5) Bank credit and money.--What factors lie behind the sharp

increases in bank credit and money in June, and are such factors

likely to continue to operate over the near term?

The sharp June increases in bank credit and money stemmed

in part from temporary or unusual circumstances. Nevertheless, the

underlying forces influencing both series clearly appear expansionary.

The unusually heavy June borrowing by business is one indication of

the current strength of loan demand. However, owing to liquidation

of the June 30 loan bulge and in the absence of Treasury financing,

change

the end-of-month bank credit series is likely to show little

or decline on a seasonally adjusted basis in July.

Part of the $3.5 billion bank credit rise in June was accounted

for by temporary loan expansion in the last week of the month. This

included substantial borrowing by securities dealers to cover

redemption of maturing RPs held by nonfinancial businesses. As

usual, these borrowings were repaid within a short period; nearly

all of the security loan increase had been liquidated by July 7.

In addition, there was a sharp and unusual rise in bank holdings

of securities other than U.S. Governments in June. The rise was

concentrated at New York City banks and was no doubt associated in

large part with two large new Federal agency financings and the

issuance of a sizable New York City tax note.

The strong upward trend in business demands for bank loans

could moderate somewhat over the near term; corporations may divert

more of their external financing from banks to the capital markets.

This possibility is suggested by the fact that bank financing has

been used to a far greater extent than might normally have been

expected to finance this year's growing external needs, particularly

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in view of the continued firming in interest rate and other lending

policies at the large city banks.

Prospective declines in steel

and auto inventories, and possible further reductions in the rate

of accumulation of other stocks, also would tend to moderate demand

for bank loans.

With respect to the money supply, the sharp June rise helped

to meet the need to add to cash balances in view of the steadily

increasing volume of money transactions.

Money supply growth was

limited early in the year by a large buildup in time and savings

deposits and subsequently by higher than usual Treasury balances

at commercial banks.

The projected rapid drawdown of Treasury balances in late

July and early August will tend to increase private money holdings.

Even with the sharp rise in June, growth in the money supply in the

first half of the year as a whole, at about 2-1/2 per cent, was at

a considerably lower rate than the increase in GNP. This suggests

some further need to rebuild cash balances for transactions purposes

in the months ahead.

(6) Money market relationships.--Assuming a continuation of current

monetary policy, what range of money market conditions, interest

rates, reserve availability, and reserve utilization by the banking

system might prove mutually consistent during coming weeks?

In recent weeks net borrowed reserves have remained within

the $150 mill.on to $210 million range that has prevailed since

rates and

But during the past two weeks Treasury bill

early May.

persistently

have

traded

funds

dealer loan rates have risen, and Federal

The 3-month

at 4-1/8 per cent, with occasional trades at. 4-1/4.

Treasury bill has moved above 3.85 per cent, up from 3.77 per cent

in late June, as relatively heavy bill inventories pressed against

smaller than expected public and official demands. In the past

week New York City banks have returned to a basic reserve deficiency

position of more usual size.

Assuming net borrowed reserves continue in the recent range,

bill rates seem likely to remain between 3.80-3.90 per cent, with the

odds favoring the upper end of the band. At present, no substantial

downward bill rate pressures appear in the offing. The early summer

period of heavy needs for reserves has passed and the System is not

likely to be a major market factor over the next four weeks. The

Treasury's August refunding is likely to be routine and to have

little effect on bill rates. The exceptional recent tautness in

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the Federal funds and dealer loan markets may lessen in the period

ahead, but these markets may be expected to show more tightness

than in June.

The money market conditions specified above are not likely

to be associated with significant pressures on long-term interest

rates, although the municipal market remain,. heavy and upward

yield pressures there may persist. Congestion has eased in the

corporate market, at least temporarily. The Treasury will probably

not test the long-term Government market in the August refinancing.

The race of expansion in bank credit and money over the

next few months probably will fall off from the high June rate, as

discussed under Question 5. Private demand deposits, which showed

little net change during the first 5 months of the year, are likely

to increase, but much less rapidly than in June. Perhaps, on balance,

a growth rate of around 4 or 5 per cent would be a reasonable expec

tation for the July-September period. In the same months last summer

private demand deposits grew at a 7 per cent rate.

Chairman Martin then called for the go-around of comments and

views on economic conditions and monetary policy, beginning with

Mr. Treiber, who made the following statement:

Business activity continues to expand, and further

growth is in prospect. We have been seeing a more cautious

reassessment of future prospects, and in some quarters a

considerable amount of pessimism. But in our view the

underlying sources of strength in the economy remain intact

despite the prospect of some inventory liquidation later in

the year. The positive factors include good business profits,

business plans for further increases in plant and equipment

spending, the stimulus to consumer sperding expected from the

recent excise tax cut, and a further expansion in combined

spending of Federal and State and local governments on goods

and services in the months ahead.

Even though the statistics on gross national product

show a much higher rise in the first quarter than in the

second quarter of 1965, after adjustments are made for

special factors related to the steel and automobile indus

tries the advance in the second quarter was probably as

great as that of the first quarter. It appears probable

that the overall performance of the economy during the

second half of 1965 will be in line with the projections

made by the Council of Economic Advisers and our own

expectations at the beginning of the year.

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Trends in domestic prices, both wholesale and retail,

are disturbing. There continues to be a noticeable upcreep

in prices for industrial commodities; while the rate of

advance is still modest in comparison with the inflationary

surge of the mid-1950s, it contrasts with the stability

achieved during the early portion of the current expansion.

Labor costs per unit of output in manufacturing are still

below a year ago but they have not been declining for the

last several months. Against this background the wage

negotiations in the bellwether steel industry are highly

important. A settlement that would increase costs could

have serious repercussions on the overall cost structure

at home and on the international position of the dollar.

On the international side, an unusually favorable

second quarter has followed an unusually unfavorable first

quarter. For the first time in many years we are seeing

a quarterly balance of payments surplus. But this second

quarter surplus rests largely on special, and nonrecurrent,

factors. There is little evidence of a fundamental improve

ment in our basic balance of payments position. A slowing

down in the rate of economic expansion in some industrial

countries and balance of payments problems in a number of

nonindustrial countries make it difficult to expect our

exports to grow at the rate they have in recent years. On

the other hand, our imports have been increasing more

rapidly in the light of the high general demand at home,

augmented by a special demand for steel. Indeed, so far

this year our trade surplus has been considerably less

than last year. It is not clear how much the reduction

is due to the dock strike, but it is clear that our costs

at home are a basic factor in the effort to improve our

balance of payments position.

As for the credit situation, banks have been meeting

heavy loan demands somewhat more selectively and on

moderately tighter terms. Rising loan-deposit ratios,

declining holdings of Government securities, and sub

stantial net borrowings from the Reserve Banks are

indicative of pressures on bank liquidity positions.

So far, however, the continuous deterioration of those

indicators of bank liquidity does not seem to have

materially affected the willingness of the banks to

accommodate customers. Banks have been adding to their

loan portfolios without reducing total investments. Bank

credit has continued this year, as it has in recent

years, to expand more rapidly than has overall production.

In fact, the rate of expansion so far this year has

been faster than in the preceding years.

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It seems to me that in view of the continued strength

of domestic business accompanied by further price advances,

the absence of signs of a fundamental improvement in our

balance of payments, and an excessive growth in bank credit,

monetary policy should move toward a somewhat firmer tone.

The Treasury will be announcing a refunding in the last

week of July. This should be a routine operation, and

therefore should not inhibit any change an monetary policy

now.

In view, however, of the need for an "even keel" policy

in connection with the financing, any change in monetary

policy should be modest.

Mr. Ellis said that, to borrow Mr. Noyes'

new semantics,

the

most noteworthy economic news in New England was of "no change" in

employment--that is, a steady and strong employment expansion.

Commencing last fall, jobs in durable goods factories expanded right

through the period of the automobile shutdown and had continued upward

ever since.

Expanded operations in shipbuilding

and aircraft engine

manufacturing had lifted the regional transportation equipment index

some 20 points in 12 months.

The durables index was up 15 points in

eight months.

Quite naturally, Mr. Ellis continued, that strength had been

translated into lower unemployment and longer work weeks.

work week, at 41.1 hours,

just matched the U.S.

In May the

Unemployment

average.

rates in May ranged from 2.6 per cent in New Hampshire to 4.6 per cent

in Massachusetts, with a 4.2 per cent regional average.

Insured un

employment at mid-June reached the lowest point recorded since November

1956.

Also reflecting the employment expansion were the reclassifications

of three New England cities, leaving the region with only one city in the

"labor surplus" category of 9 per cent or more unemployed.

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-46Mr. Ellis remarked that the aggregate regional measures of

consumer income, consumer spending, orders to manufacturers, manu

facturing output, and construction had "fallen off" in terms of the

new semantics--they all continued to move upward, according to the

latest data, but generally at more modest rates than typical of the

first-quarter trends.

The financial counterparts of the trends also

continued to show substantial expansion rates, all reflected in

some way in the single statistic that total loans and investments of

First District weekly reporting banks during the three weeks ending

June 30 averaged a plus 9,5 per cent in year-to-year comparisons.

Evidence of how the District's banks were using the reserves being

created showed up in the 21 per cent year-to-year gain in real

estate loans at weekly reporting banks.

Turning to issues of policy, Mr. Ellis offered the view that

one of the most critical elements of the economic outlook was the

rate at which additional industrial capacity would come effectively

on line in the next 6-9 months.

Although the country was entering

the fifth year of rising capital goods outlays, capacity utilizatior

rates had continued to rise to their present level of 90 per cent

or higher on average.

Of course, that implied that specific and

important individual industries had been running measurably above

90 per cent.

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-47Mr. Ellis noted the long awareness of the historical

evidence that cost-push inflation pressures edged prices upward at

such utilization levels.

The pervasiveness of industrial price

advances since last fall and the strengthening in their trend--as

shown in the green book appendix--offered evidence that the economy

might well be traversing the jagged edge of inflation.

that, on page 11 of part II, the green book said:

He noted

"The index for

industrial commodities, which had risen 0.2 per cent in May, edged

up another 0.1 per cent in June.

The increase through the first

half of the year amounted to 0.7 per cent--almost the same as the

rise in the fourth quarter of last year."

All of this emphasized

the critical importance of new capacity coming on line faster than

the foreseeable increases in demand stemming from the effect of

the social security program superimposed on steadily rising consumer

spending, which already was running 7 per cent above year-ago levels.

In that context, Mr. Ellis said, perhaps he should feel

somewhat relieved by his own judgment that the U.S. trade balance

this year was likely to fall substantially below the $6.7 billion

level of 1964.

That would help in a small way to relieve domestic

supply pressures.

Such a result would be of little comfort, however,

in view of the country's need to maximize the trade component of

its balance of payments.

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As usual, Mr. Ellis remarked, a choice of monetary policies

for the period ahead had to recognize two major unknowns:

(1) the

strength of credit demands that would emerge, and (2) the lag in

impact of existing and recent monetary policy.

Concerning future

credit demands, bankers had reported in the credit survey that

they saw no letup in the recent unusually strong demands.

Coupled

with that was some evidence that business liquidity had reached a

point requiring increasing reliance on bank financing, as Mr. Koch

had noted.

Concerning the lag in policy impact, Mr. Ellis noted that

that constrain: gained importance the closer in time the cyclical

inflection points in the trend of the economy were approached.

That fact in turn seemed to reinforce a natural tendency to make

no policy change--to wait and see.

In that context, Mr. Ellis found both reassurance and some

guidance by looking at the course of the Committee's policy over the

past twelve months.

In successive probing actions, the Committee

had moved from a posture of slight monetary ease, characterized by

net free reserves of $78 million and member bank borrowing averaging

$278 million, to slight restraint, with net borrowed reserves of

$174 million and borrowing of $539 million, using 4-week averages.

Except for the discount rate move timed with the U.K. rate action

last fall, at no single point had it been clear to all that an

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overt, major policy move was appropriate; but, as Mr. Koch had

observed, the small incremental moves the Committee had made added

up to a significant total change.

He concurred in Mr. Koch's

judgment that those policy moves had been appropriate; the Committee's

position was much better today than it would have been if it had not

made successive small moves in the past twelve months.

token,

By the same

he believed the Committee would be in a sounder position six

and twelve months hence if it continued that basic probing action.

It was Mr. Ellis' understanding that within the framework

of unchanged money market conditions the Account Manager was working

with a net borrowed reserve target range centered at $150 million,

a target first adopted at the Committee's May 25 meeting.

In his

judgment it was appropriate to make a further slight step along the

path the Committee had been following.

Accepting the staff's

description of the recent money market relationships in which net

borrowed reserves had remained within a $150-$210 million range for

nine weeks and, therefore, not expecting substantial impacts on

money rates or money market conditions, Mr. Ellis recommended

establishing a net borrowed reserve target centered at $200 million.

Over time, member bank borrowing should be expected to average around

$550 million if credit demands continued to show their recent strength.

The real objective of such a move, Mr. Ellis said, was to

continue the course of gradual probing the Committee had followed.

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If credit demands strengthened in the fall, the Committee's policy

would have been firmed slightly to hold the surge within bounds.

If credit demands weakened in the fall, it would have established

a base from which a sharp policy move could be expected to have

more impact.

Mr. Irons reported that there had been further expansion of

economic activity in the Eleventh District recently and business

conditions were strong.

The index of industrial production for the

District was up more than one percentage point from May to June,

A substantial part

and a further increase was expected in July.

of the rise was due to increased output of crude oil; gains in

manufacturing production were moderate.

Construction contract

awards continued to rise and were at a new high despite some weak

ening in residential contracts.

Employment and unemployment were

little changed, showing only slight gains.

and new car sales were strong.

Department store sales

The outlook for agriculture was

generally reported to be good after recent rains.

On the whole,

according to most of the major economic indicators, the District

economy was operating at a level that on almost any basis other than

comparison with the first quarter would be considered very high.

Financial conditions in the District were tight, Mr. Irons

said, and District banks, including some of the smaller banks,

were much less liquid now than they were not too long ago.

Bank

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loan demand was very strong, especially in the commercial and

industrial categories.

substantially.

Both demand and time deposits were up

Banks were attempting to maintain their reserve

positions by buying Federal funds when they were available, but

coming to the discount window when funds were difficult to obtain

and, in some cases, when the rate on Federal funds was above the

4 per cent discount rate.

At the national level, Mr. Irons continued, the outlook for

the next few months seemed to be expansionary.

Gains would be

stimulated by rising consumer, Government, and business spending.

The advances would be accompanied by some dangers, of which the

most important were possible developments in Viet Nam and in the

balance of payments situations of the United States and Britain.

Adverse developments in those areas could change the outlook

substantially.

Also worrisome were inventory developments and the

accumulation of wage and price increases.

On the whole, barring unfavorable developments in Viet Nam,

the U.S. balance of payments, or the position of sterling, Mr. Irons

felt that the economic situation would be strong in the next six

months.

Banks were making every effort to meet, and perhaps to

foster, strong loan demands, despite their general lack of liquidity.

They were seeking funds from various sources and, in the Eleventh

District at least, were employing various devices to attract time

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deposits.

Certificates of deposit were being sold on a considerable

scale in both the District and the nation, and borrowings from the

Federal Reserve were high.

It seemed to Mr. Irons that except for Treasury bill rates

money market conditions had been reasonably firm, and even bill

rates had moved up recently.

Other shcrt-term rates probably gave

a better picture of conditions in the money market, and it was

possible that those conditions were firmer than had been thought.

But with banks willing to pay the price necessary to get funds, and

continuing to solicit loan business, net borrowed reserves probably

were not very meaningful at present for policy target purposes.

As banks made loans required reserves increased and net borrowed

reserves rose; the System supplied additional reserves which the

banks put to work; and the cycle continued.

The Committee's present

policy was supposed to be one of moderate restraint, but in fact it

did not seem to be working out that way.

In such circumstances, Mr. Irons doubted that a small

increase in net borrowed reserves would be very effective.

He

thought the point was approaching at which the discount rate would

have to be raised if further restraint was considered necessary.

For the time being, he would continue present policy without

significant change and without too much concern about the level of

net borrowed reserves.

Meanwhile, the Committee could continue to

watch the situation closely.

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Mr. Swan reported that business activity in general seemed

to be continuing to advance in the Twelfth District.

In May employ

ment rose somewhat more rapidly in the District than in the country

as a whole.

Tentative figures for the June rate of unemployment in

California showed a rise of one-tenth of a percentage point--as the

national figures did--but basically the economic situation in the

District seemed to be much the same as a month earlier.

District savings and loan associations recently had been

advertising extensively, Mr. Swan said, especially those that earlier

had raised the rates they paid and then had brought them down under

prodding by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board.

Most of the associations

reducing rates recently had adopted other procedures to the advantage

of the shareholder, such as compounding interest daily and crediting

deposits to the date of withdrawal.

In their advertising they were

attempting to demonstrate that the overall interest return to the

shareholder was now a few basis points higher than before the rate

reduction.

Those actions suggested that the associations were mak: g

an effort to regain the ground they had lost to commercial banks in

the competition for savings deposits, at least in a relative sense.

In the four weeks ending June 30, Mr. Swan continued, there

was a substantial increase in bank credit at weekly reporting banks

in the District.

As had been the case through most of 1965, the

percentage gain was somewhat less than at all weekly reporting banks

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in the country.

However, there still was considerable evidence of

pressure on reserve positions.

District banks were net buyers of

Federal funds and were still borrowing in substantial volume at the

Reserve Bank.

With respect to the national economic situation and policy,

Mr. Swan's conclusions were about the ,;ame as Mr. Irons'.

In the

immediate situation, and given the expected Treasury financing, it

seemed to him that even a slight degree of firming was not indicated.

With the recent increase in Treasury bill rates and some continuing

uncertainties in capital markets and the stock market, he was inclined

to think that the Committee should not make any policy change at this

point.

Having said that, Mr. Swan remarked, he would add that a

number of things were of considerable concern to him, including the

sharp increases in reserves and bank credit in June in the face of

somewhat higher member bank borrowings and net borrowed reserves,

the expected shift in the position of the Federal budget from

surplus to substantial deficit in the third quarter, and the fact

that the prospects were not bright for further improvement in the

U.S. balance of payments in the months ahead.

He found it surprising

that nonborrowed reserves, which had declined at an annual rate of

1.2 per cent in May, rose at an 8.4 per cent rate in June despite the

fact that borrowings and net borrowed reserves were higher in the

latter month.

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In view of the factors he had mentioned, Mr. Swan said, he

was somewhat closer to the conclusion that

it would be desirable to

move to a tighter policy than he had been before.

Like Mr. Irons,

however, he had questioned the value of a vry limited move at this

point.

in

He would prefer to wait to see whether the views expressed

the staff comments on questions 5 and 6 proved justified; namely,

that "The sharp June increases in bank credit and money stemmed in

part from temporary or unusual circumstances"

and that "The

rate of

expansion in bank credit and money over the next few months probably

will fall

off from the high June rate."

If

the staff's

expectations

were fulfilled, he would feel somewhat differently; but if they were

not he probably would be inclined to pursue the possibility of a

firmer policy at a subsequent meeting.

Mr. Ga..usha commented that the Ninth District economy,

buoyed by sharply higher levels of residential and commercial

construction activity, seemed to be growing at a more rapid rate

than the national economy.

And the outlook was that the present

rate of growth would be sustained,

months.

at least over the coming few

District banks, city and country alike, increased their

loans outstanding quite sharply during June.

Country banks were

presently more fully loaned up than at any time in the last five

and a half years.

And the average loan-deposit ratio for city

banks was down only very slightly from the record high established

last April.

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The outlook for the national economy appeared to Mr.

Galusha

to be for some slight lessening of resource utilization over the last

half of 1965.

He believed that a moderate increase in the unemploy

ment rate--to, say, 5 per cent at year end--was likely.

So was a

slight decline in average capacity utilization rates; the odds were

not great that manufacturing output wculd grow as rapidly as capacity

during the third and fourth quarters of 1965.

It therefore was Mr. Galusha's guess that economic expansion

would certainly continue and at an impressive rate, but not at a

rate sufficient to prevent some slight lessening of pressure on

resources.

Accordingly, he saw upward pressures on prices as

moderating somewhat in

monetary policy.

coming months,

even assuming no change in

There might continue to be some very modest in

creases in prices, particularly during the third quarter of this

year.

Mney wages evidently were rising a bit more rapidly at

present than they had earlier in

the recovery.

record corporate profits of the first

And no doubt the

half of the year would

continue for awhile to take their toll.

Against whatever upward

pressure on money wages existed at the moment,

however,

it was

necessary to set the downward pressure generated by some reduction

in resource utilization which he, at least, saw coming in the

immediate future.

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Mr. Galusha complimented the Board's staff on the excellent

appendix on prices contained in the current issue of the green book.

He had found it most helpful,

and, to a point,

reassuring.

It

was

interesting to note that price increases of the recent expansion

had so far been smaller than those experienced in the recovery of

1959-60.

It also was interesting to note that, in the nonagricultural

sector at least, the most dramatic of recent price increases--in

nonferrous metals and elsewhere--had not onl. been selective, as many

had observed, but also were of the sort that would give the United

States' international competitors little if any advantage.

Adjusting

for those dramatic price changes, he saw not too pessimistic a price

performance.

Of course, Mr. Galusha said, were the fundamental economic

outlook for greater expansion than he foresaw, he would have to

favor some increase in the degree of monetary restraint.

His

expectations about coming months, however, made him favor no change

in policy at this time.

Nor did Mr. Galusha think that the U.S. balance of payments

position, superficially so much improved, would in present circum

stances benefit perceptibly from a modest move in the direction of

greater monetary restraint.

Beyond the boundaries of the United

States the most pressing problem remained sterling, but he did not

see the Committee's monetary posture as offering immediate help.

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Going to the Board staff's unanswerable final question,

Mr. Galusha remarked that what little evidence he knew of suggested

that if free reserves remained in the range of recent weeks and if

discount rates remained unchanged, the bill rate would locate in

the range of 3.80 to 4.00 per cent, and most likely around 3.90 per

cent.

Putting his view differently, he knew of no special circum

stances that would suggest a marked change in the bill rate, assuming

the level of free reserves was not altered sharply.

Mr. Scanlon reported that economic prospects in the Seventh

District for the rest of 1965 remained favorable.

A strong demand

for workers was reported in nearly all District centers, reflecting

the boom in autos, steel, and machinery.

In some areas labor

markets were the tightest in a decade or more, with unemployment

at very low levels (2.7 per cent of the work force in the Chicago

area for May) and business firms making intensive efforts to

recruit workers.

Unemployment compensation claims continued to

decline in all District States.

Current worker recruitment problems were increased by the

decision of some firms to forego usual plant-wide shutdowns in July

or August because of present demand pressures, Mr. Scanlon said.

Because of liberal vacation plans for their permanent work force,

many of those firms were taking on temporary summer workers as

well as seeking permanent additions to their payrolls.

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Mr. Scanlon remarked that declines in new orders in the

District for some types of capital goods in the past month or two

and slower increases in shipments were related to stretch-outs in

promised delivery time as well as to shifts in orders for defense

and steel.

In some cases there had been a spillover of demand

into the used equipment market; sales of used machine tools had

been reported at prices close to original cost.

Orders of structural

steel fabricators were at a record high in May, and demands were

pressing on capacity to an extent that work in progress at some

District plants was falling behind schedule.

Demands upon men and resources had been accompanied by an

upward creep in prices, Mr. Scanlon said.

People with whom he

talked felt that in those circumstances labor was probably becoming

less efficient on the average, with an accompanying slowing of

productivity gains.

There was little evidence, however, that

profit margins were being eroded appreciably.

Of course, to the

extent that the pressure upon resources was related to the

abnormally high rates of production of steel and motor vehicles,

relief from current stringencies should be noticeable during the

second half of 1965.

Farm cash receipts in the District States were expected to

continue the 4 to 5 per cent increase over a year ago,

observed.

Mr. Scanlon

That expectation reflected higher prices for meat animals,

corn, and soybeans, and an increase in production of crops.

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Mr. Scanlon went on to say that the rate of savings increase

at financial institutions, while below last year's high rate, did

not compare unfavorably with years prior to 1964.

Consumer spending

apparently was about in line with income increases this year.

In June, Mr. Scanlon continued, bank credit expansion in

the district was somewhat less vigorous than in the nation but

was moderately larger than in June 1964.

A 3 per cent rise for

business loans in June indicated a resurgence in credit demands,

at least temporarily.

The District loan increase had been less

broadly based than that of the nation, with large increases in the

metals category--doubtless reflecting inventory accumulation--and

in the public utilities group, where changes tended to be related

to the timing of security issues.

The Chicago Reserve Bank's June quarterly survey showed a

slight rise from March in average interest rates on business loans

for all size groups and for term loans, Mr. Scanlon reported.

Four

of the eight banks in the lending practices survey stated that their

rates were firmer than three months ago.

Four reported that loan

demand was stronger than three months ago and seven said it was

stronger than a year ago.

"Increased loan demand" had been cited

more frequently as a reason for using the discount window in recent

weeks.

Although the major Chicago banks had been meeting credit

demands without severe strain, their basic positions had declined

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rather sharply over the past two weeks.

part of the CDs that matured in June.

They had replaced only

Borrowings by other reserve

city banks had been rising noticeably, with some indication, he be

lieved, of reluctance to pay 4-1/8 per cent for Federal funds.

As to policy, Mr. Scanlon said he found the choice between

the two suggested alternatives for the directive a difficult one

today.1/ He believed that the possible change in policy under dis

cussion was a very small one.

Conditions in the Seventh District

would certainly encourage his support of such a move.

On the other

hand, like Mr. Irons, he doubted that a small increase in net

borrowed reserves would be very effective in restraining the rate of

expansion in bank credit.

Moreover, he felt that any further firming

would move the Committee a step closer to forcing a technical adjustnent

of the discount rate.

Indeed, it might be that a Federal funds rate

consistently at the 4-1/8 to 4-1/4 per cent level might, in itself,

force that adjustment.

It seemed to him that it would be desirable

to make no charge in policy today and to see whether the trends

indicated by the June figures continued.

On that basis he would

prefer alternative A of the staff drafts of the directive.

1/ Two alternative drafts of the directive prepared by the staff

are appended to these minutes as Attachment A.

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Mr. Clay commented that, in general, the domestic economy

continued to perform in accordance with the pattern of activity that

had been anticipated.

As such, it involved a pace of expansion that

was considerably slower, and that probably would continue to be

considerably slower, than the pace of the first quarter.

While the

rate of expansion was more moderate, the growth of manpower and

industrial capacity continued to make productive resources more

available.

That combination of developments should be a restraining

factor on nonagricultural commodity prices, tending to prevent any

marked upward movement of prices in the period ahead.

Price

developments on both the demand and cost sides would bear watching,

however.

Bank credit expansion, including the growth in business

loans, had been large, even though less than early in the year,

Mr. Clay noted.

The rate of growth in business loans should

moderate from the June pace.

On the other hand, business loan

expansion in recent months might reflect a greater dependence on

outside funds on the part of business, leading to larger credit

requirements to cover its needs, including receivables, inventories,

and capital outlays.

Under those circumstances, a given pace of

economic growth might require a larger increase in business credit

than earlier in the upswing when internally generated funds were

more adequate.

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earlier, Mr. Clay said.

had been solved.

That did not mean that the payments problem

It did afford an opportunity to await further

payments developments and to devise additional methods of dealing

with the problem.

At the present time, it appeared best to Mr. Clay to continue

essentially the recent monetary policy.

In his opinion, the present

and prospective rate of economic expansion did not merit monetary

policy restraint.

The increases in agricultural commodity prices

were not business-cycle oriented, and other price movements were

not sufficient to call for a more restrictive policy under present

economic circumstances.

The growth in bank credit also needed to

be interpreted in terms of the outlook for a moderate rate of

economic expansion in the months ahead.

In Mr. Clay's judgment, the

international payments situation also facilitated the continuation

of recent monetary policy.

Alternative A of the staff drafts appeared

appropriate for the current economic policy directive.

Mr. Wayne said the current business picture in the Fifth

District looked quite similar to that in the nation.

High level

activity continued in all major industries, but the rate of expansion

apparently had slowed somewhat and business optimism had dimmed

noticeably.

Responses to the Richmond Bank's latest business survey

were less optimistic than at any time this year.

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Generally, the outlook for the second half was favorable,

Mr. Wayne remarked.

He expected the rate of improvement to

resemble the moderate pace of the second quarter, with business

capital outlays, consumer demand, and the government sector

providing the principal strength.

definitely been dampened in

Business optimism had quite

recent weeks, owing in part at least

to the recent stock market break.

It

seemed to Mr. Wayne that recent productivity and cost

developments would indicate continued high level business profits

and little pressure on product prices from the cost side.

Because

of productivity gains stemming from increasing capital spending,

labor cost per unit of output in manufacturing was lower now than

at the beginning of the current upswing.

Even in recent months,

following rather generous wage settlements in a number of industries,

the index of labor cost had moved up only fractionally.

Recent economic and financial developments in other countries

had resulted in a less favorable outlook for world trade and for

U.S. exports, Mr. Wayne noted.

The rate of expansion over much of

the continent had leveled off and the United Kingdom might well

be forced into measures which could hurt U.S. sales abroad.

The

uncertaintiesin the current situation, coupled with the recent

increase in U.S. imports, raised doubts respecting the contribution

of the trade surplus to a solution of the country's overall paymets

deficit.

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Mr. Wayne remarked that the sharp increases in bank credit

and the money supply in June were due primarily to heavy mid-year

business borrowing and to changes in Government deposits.

fluctuations of that kind were to be expected.

Short-run

He was more impressed

with the fact that, despite the large June increase, bank credit in

the second quarter expanded at a rate somewhat below that in the first

quarter.

He anticipated that continuing high levels of business

activity and consumer spending would result in strong demand for

bank credit over the near future, although he would expect this

demand to be less robust than in June.

Mr. Wayne saw nothing in either the domestic or the inter

national picture that warranted a change of policy at this time.

Therefore, he favored maintaining the present posture, seeking

neither more firmness nor more ease.

He would expect the seasonal

need to absorb reserves over the next two weeks to put upward pres

sure on bill rates, but he believed that somewhat higher rates were

desirable.

Mr. Wayne preferred alternative A of the draft directives.

Mr. Robertson then made the following statement:

The domestic economy, all things considered, has

performed pretty well in the second quarter, certainly as

well as might have been expected. We have not yet seen

any serious maladjustments arising out of the rapid first

quarter expansion. And taking the first and second quarters

together, the expansion in gross national product appears

to have been not far from the reasonably rapid pace that

developed after mid-1963.

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Whether such a pace can persist, I do not know. There

are cautionary signs, apart from the stock market, which at

the moment appears to be settling down. For instance, steel

inventories are still at advanced levels, and they may begin

exerting some downward pressure or steel output in the months

ahead. Also, whether the still high level of automobile

sales will continue is certainly a questionable matter.

The excise tax cuts might help some in that respect.

However, their full effect on the economy will depend not

merely on additional car sales, or jewelry sales, but also

on increased spending throughout the whole range of consumer

goods and services generated by the money saved when people

purchase that second car or that anniversary present which

it is very likely they were going to buy anyhow. And how

this will work in practice as a stimulus to production and

employment is something that is especially difficult to

foretell.

In the period ahead, the impact of excise tax cuts on

spending will be reinforced, however, by the new social

security program. And the two combined could serve as an

important expansionary force. At least the full employment

surplus data presented by the staff indicate that an

additional fiscal stimulus in the order of $6 billion can

be expected in the third quarter of the year, and without

much ground being lost in the fourth.

While the economy in the second quarter has performed

well in the sense that it seems to have been freer than

we might have hoped of inventory maladjustments leading

to a decline in economic activity, it has also performed

well with respect to inflationary pressures. Prices have

continued to rise slightly on average, it is true, but

supply factors in agriculture have been a major element

in that respect. Industrial prices have continued to creep

upwards, and while this has not yet signalized any sub

stantial build-up of inflationary forces, such price rises

do represent a possible trouble spot if they accelerate in

a rapidly expanding economy. This would be especially true

if we enter a period when our balance of payments no longer

reflects the initial (and, to a degree, one-time) benefits

of the voluntary credit restraint program and when, therefore,

we will have to look more searchingly at such factors as

our export performance if the improved payments position

is to be sustainable.

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My reading of present economic developments does

not lead me to suggest any change in the stance of policy

now--of either an easing or a tightening nature.

The

forthcoming Treasury financing, though it seems as if it

may be a routine affair, is a further consideration

leaning toward no change.

But with respect to policy, I would like to note

that net borrowed reserves have consistently run above

$150 million in the past few weeks--averaging about $175

million in June and coming in at $185 million (before

revision) in the first week of July. I have somewhat

mixed feelings about this. In general, I would prefer

to see them fluctuating on either side of $150 million.

However, in the past several weeks we have had a rapid

growth in money supply and in required reserves. Under

those circumstances, it is understandable if some of the

above normal or above expected growth in required reserves

absorbs additional free reserves as banks satisfy rapidly

expanding credit demands.

This being so, I would also anticipate that if

required -eserves begin to grow at a s.ower rate than

expected, net borrowed reserves would begin to come in

at less than $150 million,

In other words, it would be

only prudent then, with credit demands weakening, not to

exert quite as much restraint on bank reserve positions.

Mr.

directives,

Mr.

Robertson added that he favored alternative A of the draft

calling for no change in policy.

Shepardson said that the staff's

mation seemed

outlook.

reports and other infor

to indicate strength in the economy and a healthy

He thought that the policy the Com m ittee had been following,

of gradually moving to a somewhat firmer position, had been a con

structive one.

In his judgment, prospects for prices and for the

balance of payments indicated the desirability of further probing in

that direction.

Thus, he agreed with Mr. Ellis' recommendation for

moving toward some further lessening of ease.

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However, Mr. Shepardson continued, there was merit in

Mr. Irons' observation that such probing probably would not have

a great effect and that at some point it might be necessary to

implement a move toward less ease by a discount rate increase.

He would favor discount rate action if cred.t expansion continued

at its recent rate.

Meanwhile, a modest move toward a slightly

firmer policy would provide a more solid basis for a possible discount

rate change if that proved necessary.

On the other hand, if a definite

downturn should develop, he felt that the Committee could move much

faster toward easing than it had toward restraint.

He favored

alternative B of the draft directives.

Mr. Mitchell said that at nearly every recent meeting of

the Committee at least one person had referred to bank credit ex

pansion in the United States as being "unsustainable," and some

had implied that the economy would ultimately have to pay for this

credit binge.

He had borne the drip of this argument, which he

considered specious, in silence for a long time but today would

make a mild remonstrance.

Mr. Mitchell started with the comment that if the word

"unsustainable" was used, it ought to be associated with this

Cassandra-like condemnation on the consequences of credit or growth,

not with the growth of bank credit itself.

To him, it seemed clear

that much of the surge in bank credit over recent years was a

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one-shot affair and simply the result of enhanced competitiveness

of banking institutions.

The ability to buy deposits under current

Regulation Q ceilings enabled banks to out-compete other financial

intermediaries, and many money and capital narket instruments as

well.

Thus, to a large extent, what was being witnessed was a

substitution of bank credit for other forms of credit rather than

a net addition to credit available to the economy.

If the System should truly be concerned about the growth

in

bank assets, Mr.

Mitchell continued,

an antidote was at hand;

The

it was certain to work and it would show immediate results.

remedy was a reduction in the ceiling interest rates payable on

deposits under Regulation Q--a reduction below present market

rates.

That action would slow bank asset growth based on purchased

deposits to a whisper.

Mr.

Mitchell did not recommend such action even though he

was sure that not all recent bank investment had been wise or

conducive to stable economic growth for the United States.

banks as generalized lenders had,

However,

and by and large exercised,

the

potential for putting such savings of the economy as they could

attract to a greater range of alternative uses than most inter

mediaries.

For that reason,

he was prepared to see banks exploit

the competitive advantages that higher Regulation Q ceilings provided.

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Nor should the Committee use monetary contraction to

curb bank credit expansion, Mr. Mitchell said, if it was mainly a

substitution for other forms of credit--a substitution that

occurred as funds were channeled to commercial banks that would

otherwise have flowed to other financial institutions or directly

into market securities.

To spell out his reasoning a bit, Mr. Mitchell said he

would start by noting two changes in the rules of the game:

(1)

increases in allowable time deposit rates (effective dates of

change after 1936 were: January 1, 1957, January 1, 1962, July 17,

1963, and November 24, 1964); and (2) the recent development of

negotiable CDs.

Those changes had made possible the accelerated

growth of time accounts on the books of commercial banks.

where did those funds come?

From

Here it was useful to recognize both

the immediate and the subsequent effects.

Right after a change

in Regulation Q. there was some switching from other assets to the

now more attractive time accounts; for example, holders of demand

deposits might convert to time deposits or holders of Treasury

bills might sell them and acquire time accounts.

on, the flows of funds also would be altered.

As time went

Funds that would

have gone into market securities or to savings and loan associations

or into demand deposits went instead to time deposits at commercial

banks.

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Thus, Mr. Mitchell said, the faster growth of time deposits

represented a diversion of funds from demand deposits, from other

savings institutions, and from market instruments.

The Committee's

problem was to try to estimate how much came from demand deposits

ard how much from the other two flows.

assumption,

Suppose,

to take an extreme

that the faster growth of time deposits had come completely

from demand deposits.

Since at any given time that represented simply

a change in the form of bank liatilities

rather than a diversion of

funds from other institutions or market instruments, it would not

in itself entail any change in the rate of growth of bank assets.

In that extreme case, it would, of course, free reserves proportional

to the difference in requirements and induce subsequent asset growth.

On the other hand, Mr.

Mitchell went on,

suppose that all

the additional funds going into time deposits represented a diversion

from Treasury bills and other market securities.

In that case,

banks

would be purchasing the additional Treasury bills (and other financial

assets) that the time depositors previously would have acquired

directly.

The accelerated growth of bank time deposits would be

necessary just to maintain the status quo in credit markets.

Similarly, Mr. Mitchell said, the additional time deposits

representing funds which otherwise would have gone to savings and

loan associations should be reflected in expanding bank assets.

Otherwise, the smaller acquisitions of assets by savings and loan

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associations--made necessary by the smaller inflow of funds--would

exert a restrictive influence.

Thus, in general, the extent to which

the more rapid bank credit expansion was stimulative or merely ac

commodating to a shift in the structure of financial flows depended

upon the mix of the sources of funds from which the additional time

deposits came.

As Mr. Mitchell looked at and analyzed the data, it appeared

to him that that mix was such that a relatively small part of the

extra build-up of time deposits in recent years had come from

demand deposits; most of the accelerated growth of time deposits

in the hands of the public had been at the expense of holdings of

securities and of accounts with savings institutions.

To that extent,

the accelerated growth of bank credit was necessary to prevent a

tightening in the availability of credit, in all forms together,

to the economy.

Further systematic work on those substitution relationships

needed to be done, Mr. Mitchell said,

and when results were available

the Committee needed to study them carefully.

Meanwhile, he hoped

it was clear that, by themselves, data on the annual rate of growth

of total bank credit as compared with, say, GNP gave little guide

to what monetary policy was or should be.

Turning to policy for the next month, Mr. Mitchell concurred

with statements that had been made that alternative A was appropriate

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for the directive.

Briefly, his reasons for favoring no change in

policy were that the present international

situation did not call

for action, ard that the domestic outlook was quite uncertain.

He

was becoming increasingly of the view that a downturn in activity

was likely in the latter part of the year; if any change was to

be made in

poicy, he would favor a snift toward ease.

Mr. Mitchell noted that the first sentence of alternative

A,

as drafted by the staff, read:

"The economic and financial

developments reviewed at this meeting indicate continuing expansion

of the domestic economy, although at a somewhat slower pace

than in the first quarter."

read, "although

He would revise the second clause to

at a considerably slower pace

facts that the second-quarter increase in

. . ."

in

view of the

GNP was now estimated

at about $7 billion, only half the first-quarter rise, and that

the industrial production index apparently would rise only by about

one point in

the second quarter,

about a point per month in

after averaging an increase of

the first

quarter.

It

might also be

well to work into the directive an acknowledgment of what,

he thought,

was the most likely source of disturbance to the economy--the inventory

However,

adjustment which he felt was in

the offing.

specific language to suggest in

that connection.

he had no

Mr. Daane said he favored no overt change in policy at

this time and would certainly prefer alternative A of the draft

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directives.

Having said that, however,

he would note that he had

some sympathy with those who expressed uneasiness about the price

developments, both recent and prospective, and--despite Mr.

Mitchell's analysis,

to which, he thought,

the Committee would

want to give careful attention--with recent developments in the

bank credit area.

To some extent his uneasiness had been reinforced

at the Paris meetings, where he had first

described the Committee's

policy as being "mildly restrictive" and then had found himself

adding that the current pace of U.S. bank credit expansion, while

below the first-quarter rate, was still above last year's high

rate.

Mr. Daane thought that it had been useful for Mr.

Irons

to remind the Committee that the maintenance of any given level

of net borrowed reserves implied accommodation of whatever demand

for bank credit emerged--whether that demand was strong or weak.

In view of that fact, he preferred in his own thinking not to

characterize an increase in net borrowed reserves of, say, $20

million as a shift in policy.

In operational terms, however, he

would still say that he would accept some increase in net borrowed

reserves if the demand for bank credit continued strong.

He would

not recommend any specific figure as a target for the Desk's

operations,

but he would not favor action to prevent a higher

level of net borrowed reserves from developing if

from strong credit demands.

it resulted

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Mr. Maisel said it appeared to him that, in contrast to

this morning's presentation, the green book gave a story that was

mixed, both more optimistic and more pessimistic than the staff

interpretation.

He disagreed particularly with the interpretation

given to the price story of the green book, seeing in

that excellent

study more of what Messrs. Galusha and Clay did.

The study of industrial prices seemed optimistic to

Mr. Maisel.

While prices had risen,

normal for a period of active demand.

the types of rise appeared

There was no indication

that they were moving up as a result of any structural shift; rather,

the opposite w.s the case.

The economy appeared to be in a period

of fluctuating prices around a very stable base, and the long-run

price level gave no sign of an upward movement.

From the point of view of the balance of payments, Mr. Maisel

continued, the rise in prices appeared even better.

Most of the

increase in recent periods had been in industrial materials.

Given

the structure of U.S. foreign trade, those increases which were

international in nature almost certainly had improved the competitive

situation of the United States.

Thus, the wholesale price situation

seemed particularly favorable, and in his judgment it offered no

constraint on any type of desired monetary action.

Also optimistic, Mr. Maisel continued, was the fact that

the country had been able to increase its output at approximately

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the rate of growth of supply while decreasing its relative liquidity

in

terms of banks'

position and of the money supply.

He agreed

that it was important to note that a considerable part of the recent

increase in

bank credit had resulted from a slower rate of growth

in other liquid assets.

Less optimistic and more serious were the warnings of

potential danger, Mr. Maisel said.

Inventories, the Committee

was told, might have been increasing at a rate which in

the past

had proved not to be viable--a rate which usually had been followed

by serious contractions.

If that was so, it meant that even though

the U.S. was still considerably below full utilization of its capacity,

the expansion in demand--in contrast to output--had failed to equal

the growth in

productive capacity.

That failure of demand to expand as fast as potential

production was serious in

importantly,

if

Mr. Maisel remarked.

too large a share of current

into inventories,

In

and of itself,

a recognition of that

More

production had gone

fact might well be seen.

the past such changes had been rapid and had led to needs for

sudden and drastic shifts in monetary policy.

Mr. Maisel felt that small increments were preferable to

sharp ones and that, therefore, the Committee should start to

move towards greater ease.

If the present directive was one of

an average of $150 million in net borrowed reserves, he would

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prefer to stay with it.

He would hope that during the period until

the next meeting the shortfalls necessary to attainment of that

average would cccur.

At the same time, the Committee could look

forward at the next meeting to a new directive calling for less

restraint.

Mr.

mixed bag,

Hickman remarked that business news in June was a

but on the whole was better than he had expected earlier.

A number of series had moved upward,

auto sales and employment.

including steel production,

Nevertheless, he continued to expect a

slower rate of expansion in GNP in the second half, and a leveling

in the index of industrial production, including some individual

months of actual

decline.

Such a pattern would reflect the

liquidation of large steel inventories and associated factors,

only partly offset by the stimulus of Federal fiscal measures.

The recent adjustment in

although it

stock prices had probably been healthy;

might contribute to some slowing in consumer spending

and capital expansion,

he did not believe its influence would be

serious enough to alter the general path of business.

That general view of the business outlook had received

strong support at a meeting of Fourth District business economists

held recently at the Cleveland Reserve Bank, Mr. Hickman noted.

Not a single one of the 24 economists attending expected that

industrial production in the third quarter would average higher

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than in

the second quarter.

For industrial production in

the

second half as a whole, most of the economists foresaw a slight

weakening.

Mr.

Hickman commented that unit labor costs in manufacturing

were likely to increase in

the months ahead.

May figures, which were the latest available,

inching up of costs between the first

clear change in

trend was evident.

While the April and

did indicaLe an

and second quarters,

no

Thus far this year, the adverse

implications for profit margins had been offset by a slight rise

in

the ratio of prices to unit labor costs in manufacturing.

The

latest readings, however, suggested that price pressures were abating;

that,

coupled with a leveling of production,

could mean lower profit

margins.

With reference to the staff's

question on world trade,

Mr. Hickman thought the outlook would probably be influenced by

two major adverse factors.

The first

was a leveling in business

activity that was apparently developing in

countries

a number of major

The second was the resurgence of mercantilistic

measures in many countries in an effort to encourage domestic

production and to decrease imports.

The United States' own effort

to discourage capital outflows would not stimulate, and perhaps

might temporarily retard, expansion of world trade.

For a variety

of reasons, the U.S. trade balance was likely to be lower this

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year than last.

U.S. exports in 1965 were unlikely to exceed last

year's record volume, and imports might rise, perhaps by as much

as 10 per cent.

Thus the trade surplus could be reduced by as

much as $2 billion.

The record of Federal debt management in the first half

of 1965 was erratic and therefore difficult to extrapolate into

the second half, Mr. Hickman said.

ownership of

There was a massive shift in

the public debt to the Federal Reserve and to State

and local governments, as well as a sharp reduction in the amount

of short-term securities outstanding.

In coming months, further

demands for short-term issues might be expected from public funds,

corporations withholding funds from overseas, banks experiencing

slackening loan demands, and from the Federal Reserve in its

seasonal program to supply reserves.

It would be helpful if

Treasury would satisfy its second-half borrowing needs in

short-term market insofar as possible and ii

the

the

the Federal Reserve

would participate by lowering reserve requirements rather than by

absorbing part of the outstanding supply of bills.

Such a joint

effort would have desirable interest rate effects.

Short-term

rates would be likely to rise moderately, and long-term rates

would show little change or perhaps even decline slightly.

The

balance of payments program would thus be reinforced and private

capital

formation would be encouraged.

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With reference to the question on bank credit and money

supply, Mr. Hickman said, the resurgence of bank credit in June,

coupled with a reduction in U.S. Government cash balances, was

reflected in a sharp rise in the money stock, reversing the

combination that had contributed to an equally sharp decline in

the money supply in May.

Reduction in Government balances during

the second half of the year, coupled with further growth in both

bank credit and time deposits, should contribute to continued,

but less erratic, gains in

the money supply.

Mr. Hickman added that a recent study at the Federal

Reserve Bank of Cleveland showed that the ratio of total debt

to GNP had virtually a level trend recently, as had the ratio of

total liquid assets to GNP.

Those results indicated to him that

bank credit growth had not been excessive recently, although he

did think it

had been excessive at times last year.

In view of uncertainties in the business outlook, Mr.

Hickman favored a modest retreat f-om the current levels of net

borrowed reserves and member bank borrowings.

He would prefer to

see net borrowed reserves in a range of $50 to $100 million and

borrowings around $400 million, as he had suggested at the last

meeting.

Recent events indicated that rates on U.S. Treasury bills

were more responsive to supply and demand factors than to changes

in reserve factors alone, at least under present money market

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conditions.

The bill rate should be maintained or increased

slightly by appropriate actions by the Treasury and Federal

Reserve.

Alternative A was clearly preferable to alternative

B for the directive, although he would prefer a third alternative

calling for a roll-back to conditions prevailing in late March

and early April.

If the Committee adopted alternative A, he would

suggest deleting the word "somewhat"

from the first sentence.

In his opinion that would be preferabl, to substituting the word

"considerably."

as Mr. Mitchell had suggested.

Mr. Bopp reported that credit extended by Third District

member banks in June mirrored the sharp increase experienced in

the nation as a whole.

At all member banks in the District, total

credit outstanding rose by 2.8 per cent, compared to an average

monthly increase of only 0.4 per cent for the first half of the

year and of 0.7 per cent for June of last year.

Business loans

at weekly reporting member banks rose by a little over 4.5 per

cent, compared to a rate of only 0.6 per cent on average during

the period January through May.

The increase in business loans

was spread throughout a wide range of industrial categories.

A discussion with District reserve city bankers, Mr. Bopp

remarked, revealed that the June tax date had been responsible for

a sizable part of the credit increase and that seasonal expansion

in several District industries was also important.

In the opinion

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of those bankers, prospects were for a more moderate rate of

growth in credit in the near-term future.

Mr.

Bopp went on to say that discussions during the past

few days with several large manufacturing concerns

in

the District

produced some interesting side-lights on recent and prospective

trends in prices, profits, productivity, and costs.

and petroleum, nothing like a profit squeeze, was in

according to those discussions,

In chemicals

prospect,

although industry officials expected

some slowing from the exceptionally good profit rates turned in

during the first half of 1965.

emphasis; one

Two steel economists disagreed in

thought no squeeze was in the offing for the industry,

and the other put more emphasis on the probability of a wage settle

ment such that wage increases would outrun productivity increases.

No one saw in his industry such pressures on capacity that increasing

costs would be a problem because of production passing the optimum

point for efficiency.

In steel, one economist pointed out that some

companies had gone outside for financing,

if

and that could be a problem

expected rates of utilization of new facilities

were not achieved.

The only people who saw any problem at all with wage costs outrunning

productivity were those in steel.

As for prices, Mr. Bopp said, chemicals and petroleum

companies were getting increased prices in some staple lines--heavy

chemicals and gasoline--that "would not have held a year or two ago."

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There had been spotty increases in a few input commodities used by

chemicals manufacturers.

The general impression from the interviews

was that input prices were not a worry, and that prices of final

products were firm, in chemicals and petroleum.

With regard to policy, Mr. Bopp continued to feel that the

degree of restraint prevailing at present was appropriate to the

near-term business outlook.

With the adjustment in steel in

ventories still to come and with a decline in automobile output a

likely prospect, the increases in economic activity would probably

slacken relative to the fast rate of the first quarter.

Superimposed

upon such a slackening expansion in demand, prospective increases in

supplies of goods and in capacity to produce might serve to contain

the selective upcreep in industrial prices which had occurred in

recent months.

On the other hand, an increase in prices in the steel

industry might occur if the wage settlement was overly generous.

an

Such

increase was by no means certain, however, and even if it came,

competitive pressures might moderate it both in amount and with respect

to the range of products affected.

Bearing those factors in mind and considering also the con

tinued success of the voluntary restraint program, Mr. Bopp would

make no change at present in the general posture of monetary policy.

He favored alternative A for the directive, with the deletion of

the word "somewhat" from the first sentence.

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Mr. Bryan reported that economic activity had continued

to expand in the Sixth District, judging by such data as those on

employment, unemployment, consumer income, and consumer spending.

The insured unemployment rate continued to decline.

Spending plans

for new and expended manufacturing facilities announced in the

second quarter of this year totaled $600 million, an all-time high

for the District.

So far as the outlook for business expansion was concerned,

Mr. Bryan said that he and his staff had discovered nothing signif

icantly new in the period since the previous meeting of the Committee,

and he had no basis for developing a conclusive answer to the question

of the business outlook.

He did have a rather intuitive feeling,

however, that stresses should be developing when the economy came as

close to full utilization of capacity as the U.S. had at present.

But he could not prove the existence of strains.

Available evidence

seemed to suggest continued expansion in business activity over the

rest of the year, although at a somewhat slower pace than in the

first quarter.

However, six months was relatively long in present

times of rapid change, and he was prepared to be surprised.

Mr. Bryan went on to say that one reason he was dubious

about the view that further expansion would be orderly was his

belief that it would be difficult to avoid further pressure on

prices and profits if expansion proceeded at the expected rate.

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As the economy approached full employment some decline in output

per manhour seemed inevitable.

He was told that current rises in

prices were attributable to temporary factors, including supply

conditions for meat; nevertheless, the rise in consumer prices

would have some permanent effects because many labor contracts

took account of the consumer price index, often automatically.

Admittedly, it was hard to find any major forces pushing up

prices, but enough minor forces could have, and in his judgment

were having, the same effect as single large ones.

Generally, Mr. Bryan remarked, it was assumed that the

margin of unutilized capacity set the limit to economic activity.

But there were many factors that could limit activity.

At present,

he thought, a limiting factor existed in the skills of those who

currently were unemployed, unless the new plant and equipment

coming on stream was of a type that required a lower level of

skills.

Despite all the talk of automation, it seemed to Mr. Bryan

that the requirements increasingly were for higher levels of skill;

and in his opinion the combination of that factor and the policy

of increasing the minimum wage level would limit the gains in

activity, regardless of the amount of fixed investment.

Mr. Bryan observed that Mr. Mitchell's analysis had not

wholly reassured him about recent banking developments.

In June,

he noted, the seasonal increases in total, required and nonborrowed

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reserves were estimated at $64 million,

$42 million,

and $63 million,

respectively.

The System certainly had accommodated those seasonal

needs; indeed,

the actual increases in

the three measures of reserves

had exceeded the seasonal rises by $161 million, $164 million, and

$139 million, respectively.

Since March, total reserves had in

creased at a 6.1 annual rate, nonborrowed reserves at a 4.9 per cent

rate, and required reserves at a 6.5 per cent rate.

be mistaken,

While he might

he did not believe such rates were sustainable without

developing an inflationary potential.

Mr.

Bryan said that he wished the Committee's policy choice

was not formulated in terms of the alternatives of "no

"firmer".

What he favored might be called,

change" and

for want of a better

term, a "tight rein" policy.

His difficulty with the concept of

"no change" was that under it

the Committee's policy had been

simply one of supplying all the reserves demanded.

judgment,

was tantamount to having no policy at all.

That,

in his

At the same

time, he certainy did not favor an overt tightening action.

seemed to him that,

contrary to Mr.

Irons'

view,

It

it was necessary

to put the banks into a somewhat heavier borrcwing position--to

have them obtain a larger proportion of their reserves through the

discount window.

Accordingly, if a free reserve target were to

be used--and, as he had often noted, he did not like such a targethe thought the level of net borrowed reserves to be sought should

be raised a little.

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In sum, Mr. Bryan said, he advocated neither "no change" nor

"greater firmness," but a "tight rein" policy.

He did not favor a

change in the discount rate at the present time because of the risk

that it would have large undesirable reprecussions on the economy.

Mr. Shuford reported that growth in economic activity in

the Eighth District during the first half of 1965 had been similar

to that of the nation.

There had been a strong rate of expansion,

but with some evidence of moderation from the unusually high rate

during last fall and early winter.

Payroll employment had increased

at a 2 per cent annual rate since December, compared with a 3.3 per

cent rate from August to December.

Manufacturing output had expanded

at a 7 per cent annual rate since December, compared with an 18 per

cent rate in the last four months of 1964.

In line with the national trend, Mr. Shuford said, loans

and investments at District banks had expanded at a substantially

faster rate since December than in late 1964.

Business loans in the

District had beer especially strong, increasing at about a 20 per

cent annual rate since last fall.

Since the beginning of May, daily average borrowings by

member banks from the St. Louis Reserve Bank had been double the

average for the first four months of the year, Mr. Shuford continued.

Some of that borrowing had been secured by customer notes, and

inquiries had been received from two others of the larger banks

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the District regarding use of such notes for collateral.

Those

developments pointed up the fact, already noted in connection with

another District, that bank liquidity was being reduced as the heavy

demand for bank loans was being met.

Farm prospects in the District had improved in recent months,

Mr. Shufor

observed.

Higher prices for livestock, primarily beef

cattle and hogs, had been the chief factors.

Crop prospects also

were quite good, as timely showers had fallen over most of the area

during the past month.

The moderation in national business activity since the first

quarter of the year indicated to Mr. Shuford that the growth rate

of the economy was returning to the trend which had prevailed during

most of the current expansion.

A continuation of that movement of

activity back to the rate which had prevailed since early 1961 would

seem desirable, for he thought there had been some indication of

excessive total demand.

Mr. Shuford believed that the continued upward movement in

prices was significant.

Prices in recent months had been rising

faster than their longer-run trend, and their movement could not be

attributed entirely to seasonal forces or to supply conditions in

the agricultural sector.

The consumer price index rose at a 1.9 per

cent annual rate from January to May, whereas the average rate of

increase during the corresponding months of the past four years

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was 1.1 per cent.

Wholesale prices rose at a 3.8 per cent annual

rate from January to June, compared with an average rate of decrease

of 2.1 per cent for the same period of the previous four years.

The

industrial price component of the wholesale price index rose at about

a 1 per cent annual rate over the past five months, in contrast to an

average decline at an 0.8 per cent rate during those months of the

previous four years.

The implications of such comparisons depended,

of course, on the starting date used, but averages for the four prior

years of the present expansion seemed to provide a fair basis for

comparison with the changes this year.

Bank credit had continued to expand at a very rapid rate,

Mr. Shuford said, although there had been some moderation since

April.

Money had risen at a 3 per cent annual rate since last

November, compared with a 4.2 per cent rate in the previous 26 months.

An upward movement in money could be expected during the balance of

the summer as the Government reduced its deposits to normal levels.

As the economy moved into the second quarter of 1965,

Mr. Shuford said, it would be necessary to continue to give recognition

to the contribution of the Federal budget, which would add considerably

to aggregate demand.

Mr. Shuford thought his position on policy was relatively close

to Mr. Bryan's, and also, perhaps, to Mr. Daane's.

In view of the

recent turn toward moderation in the rate of economic expansion, he

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would not make an overt move toward additioral firmness today.

On

the other hand, he would like to see further moderation and would

favor resisting any excessive demand that might develop.

Reserves

should not be supplied to support unduly large increases in total

bank credit, and while some increase in the money supply was

desirable it should be at a rate less than the 4 per cent rate of

the period from September 1962 to November 1964.

This year, he noted,

through June the money supply had been expanding at a 2-1/2 per cent

rate.

Mr. Shuford commented that like some others he was reluctant

to speak in quantitative terms; he shared the reservations that had

been expressed about setting specific net borrowed reserve figures

as guides for the Desk.

But if references to specific figures

were to be made, he would say that he would not be disturbed if the

Treasury bill

rate rose to 4 per cent or even a little

higher,

and

if net borrowed reserves rose to above $200 million, as a result of

the attainment of the goal he had indicated of resisting any excessive

demand that might develop.

He did not favor a change in the discount

rate.

Mr. Shuford thought his position was not too far from one

favoring no change in policy, and the first paragraph of alternative

A of the draft directives was satisfactory to him.

But, to emphasize

the need to resist excessive demand, he would prefer to have the

second paragraph of the directive revised to call for operations

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"with a view to maintaining at least as firm conditions in the

money market as have prevailed in recent weeks, and to permit some

tightening if demands for credit strengthen."

Mr. Balderston remarked that in the period of nearly twelve

years that he had been a member of the Board he had observed that

each time the steel industry had entered into wage negotiations,

whether or not a strike ensued, the statistics for the industry had

undergone large changes.

This year was no exception.

He found much

of the economic data available to the Committee to be quite unreliable

in many respects.

Throughout the summer months the Committee was

likely to suffer from some lack of visibility because of distortions

in inventory and other figures.

Mr. Balderston said he noted a tendency to explain away what

trends were in evidence as "temporary,"

or "self-correcting."

He was

concerned by the seeming rationalization of developments that might

otherwise disturb the Committee.

He was disturbed by a number of

particul .r phenomena, and his concern was deep-seated because, not

knowing what the future held, it was especially difficult to decide

what the right policy decision was at present.

His first source of concern, Mr. Balderston said, was the

possibility that recent inventory increases had been greater than

the published figures indicated, as had been suggested by Mr. Gehman

of the Board's staff.

Secondly, the long-continued improvement in

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labor productivity, which certainly was unique, had now flattened

out, with the result that unit labor costs were no longer declining.

The impact of that development on prices, particularly of export

goods, merited attention.

Third, Mr. Balderston continued, the balance of payments

outlook for the year--and he would accept Mr.

Hersey's guess that

the adverse payments balance might approximate $1.5 billion--was

a continuing threat that certainly could not be ignored by those

responsible for either fiscal or monetary policy.

Therefore,

he

disliked the form of the reference to the second-quarter surplus

in the payments balance that appeared in both alternative A and

alternative B of the draft directives.

Finally, Mr. Balderston said, the recent striking increase

in bank loans could not go unnoticed.

However,

as he studied that

development he found his conclusions supported some of Mr. Mitchell's.

He recognized that the costs of borrowing from banks had been low

relative to costs in the capital market and that the capital market

had been congested at times.

Also, trade concerns and metals

manufacturers had accounted for about 40 per cent of the total

increase in business loans at weekly reporting banks in the first

half of 1965.

That fact helped explain why commercial bank loans

(other than to financial businesses) had risen by an average of $2.1

billion per month (seasonally adjusted) from November 1964 through

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June 1965, as compared with an average rise of about $1.4 billion

per month during the previous eight months.

That increase of 50 per

cent was large, but when allowance was made for the heavy borrowing

by trade and metals companies the change was not as startling as it

appeared at first glance.

Nevertheless, Mr. Balderston continued, like Mr. Bryan he

felt that a commercial bank loan expansion of the type that had

been witnessed over the past seven months was something that the

Committee had to worry about and to watch continually.

The essential

point was to discover, if possible, whether bank lending was for

purposes that were constructive in the long run or for speculative

purposes.

That was difficult to do.

From all that he observed, he

suspected that the ebullience of the first few months of the year

had been carried over to some degree, and that some bank borrowing

was being misusec.

In a related area, consumer credit continued

high, not only fcr instalment buying of automobiles but for other

purposes also.

Mr. Balderston agreed with Mr. Bryan that the Committee's

policy should be one that would press banks to obtain the additional

reserves they needed by borrowing from the Reserve Banks.

therefore,

He would,

favor a slightly firmer policy, and accordingly preferred

alternative B for the directive.

But he would revise the wording of

the second sentence to read, "Despite a surplus in our international

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payments in the second quarter, reflecting the large initial impact

of the Administration's balance of payments program, the prospect is

for a substantial deficit for the year as a whole, with gold outflows

continuing."

Chairman Martin commented that the only important economic

change since the previous meeting of the Committee, in his judgment,

had been in psychology; he thought there had been a lessening of

optimism about the economy.

The kind of policy change that had been suggested today, the

Chairman continued, was so minor that he found himself questioning

whether it would have any real effect.

After turning over the

alternatives for policy in his mind before this meeting, he had

reached the conclusion that Mr. Irons had expressed today--that the

Committee should either make an overt move, including a change in

the discount rate, or should hold to the status quo.

He also had

concluded that an overt move was not desirable at the present time,

and nothing that he had heard in the discussion this morning had

altered that view.

Although he agreed with Mr. Ellis that the

Committee's earlier probing steps had been appropriate, he doubted

that a further probing operation now would be effective, and he was

not prepared to see the discount rate changed at this time.

On the

other hand, he did not favor a move toward greater ease.

There were many cross-currents at work in the economy at the

moment, the Chairman remarked, as was suggested by the fact that good

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cases had been made in the discussion today for both of the suggested

alternatives for :he directive.

One might say that the water in the

economic radiator had been boiling earlier in the year, but was not

boiling now.

question.

Whether it would be again later was, of course, another

The Committee might have a better picture of the situation

at its next meeting.

In his judgment, the Chairman said, monetary policy recently

had been performing about as well as possible under the prevailing

circumstances.

While he recognized that the Committee might have

to move in one direction or the other later, he favored the suggested

alternative A for the directive today.

He noted that deletion of the

word "somewhat" from the first sentence of the draft had been suggested,

and while the matter did not appear to be of great importance he was

agreeable to that change.

He then proposed that the Committee vote

on a directive consisting of alternative A with the word "somewhat"

deleted.

Mr. Shepardson commented that Mr. Balderston's proposed

revision of the balance of payments reference in the draft directive

seemed worthy of consideration even if the majority favored no change in

policy.

In the ensuing discussion it was pointed out that the proposed

language implied a forecast of developments to come of a type not

customarily included in the Committee's directives.

After further

consideration it was decided to revise the statement relating to the

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balance of payments from that in the staff drafts, without employing

language that implied a forecast.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and with Mr. Ellis dissenting,

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was

authorized and directed, until otherwise

directed by the Committee, to execute

transactions in the System Account in

accordance with the following current

economic policy directive:

The ecoromic and financial developments reviewed at

this meeting indicate continuing expansion of the domestic

economy, although at a slower pace than in the first quarter.

Reflecting the large initial impact of the Administration's

balance of payments program, there was a surplus in our

international payments in the second quarter. In this situation,

and with gold outflows continuing, it remains the Federal Open

Market Committee's current policy to reinforce the voluntary

restraint program to strengthen the international position

of the dollar, and to avoid the emergence of inflationary

pressures, while accommodating moderate growth in the reserve

base, bank credit, and the money supply.

To implement this policy, and taking into account the

forthcoming Treasury financing, System open market operations

over the next four weeks shall be conducted with a view to

maintaining about the same conditions in the money market as

have prevailed in recent weeks.

Mr.

Shepardson indicated that he had cast his favorable vote wi'h

some reservations.

Chairman Martin then read a telegram he had received from Senator

Eugene J. McCarthy on June 25, 1965, in which the Senator had urged the

Federal Reserve Board to reexamine money and credit policy "with the

view of providing greater liquidity and relieve the tight credit sit

uation."

The Senator had expressed the judgment that, with continuation

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of present conditions, "to place critical pressure on the British

pound would eventually result in economic slowdown in the United

States."

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would

be held on Tuesday, August 10, 1965, at 9:30 a.m.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Assistant Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

July 13, 1965

Drafts of Current Economic Policy Directive

for Consideration by the Federal Open Market Committee

at its Meeting on July 13, 1965

Alternative A

(no change in policy)

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting indicate continuing expansion of the domestic economy,

although at a somewhat slower pace than in the first quarter. They

also indicate a surplus in our international payments in the second

quarter, reflecting the large initial impact of the Administration's

balance of payments program.

In this situation, and with gold outflows

continuing, it remains the Federal Open Market Committee's current

policy to reinforce the voluntary restraint program to strengthen the

international position of the dollar, and to avoid the emergence of

inflationary pressures, while accommodating moderate growth in the

reserve base, bank credit, and the money supply.

To implement this policy, and taking into account the forth

coming Treasury financing, System open market operations over the

next four weeks shall be conducted with a view to maintaining about

the same conditions in the money market as have prevailed in recent

weeks.

Alternative B

(firming)

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting indicate continuing expansion of the domestic economy,

although at a somewhat slower pace than in the first quarter, with

some upward pressure on prices and rapid growth in bank credit.

They also indicate a surplus in our international payments in the

second quarter, reflecting the large initial impact of the

Administration's balance of payments program. In this situation,

and with gold outflows continuing, it is the Federal Open Market

Committee's current policy to reinforce the voluntary restraint

program to strengthen the international position of the dollar,

and to avoid the emergence of inflationary pressures, by moderating

growth in the reserve base and bank credit.

To implement this policy, System open market operations over

the next four weeks shall be conducted with a view to attaining

slightly firmer conditions in the money market, while taking into

account the forthcoming Treasury financing.

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  year = {1965},
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