fomc minutes · February 7, 1966

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington, D. C., on Tuesday, February 8, 1966, at 9:30 a.m.1/

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Balderston

Daane

Ellis

Galusha

Maisel

Mitchell

Patterson

Robertson

Scanlon

Shepardson

Messrs. Bopp, Hickman, Clay, and Irons, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Wayne, Francis, and Swan, Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of Richmond, St. Louis,

and San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Young, Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Broida, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Messrs. Baughman, Holland, Koch, Taylor, and

Willis, Associate Economists

Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Solomon, Adviser to the Board of Governors

Mr. Molony, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Hersey, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Axilrod, Associate Adviser, Division of

Research and Statistics, Board of Governors

Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

1/ This meeting, originally planned for February 1, 1966, had been

postponed one week because of adverse weather conditions affecting

travel.

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Messrs. Link, Eastburn, Mann, Ratchford, Jones,

Tow, Green, and Craven, Vice Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of New York,

Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, St. Louis,

Kansas City, Dallas, and San Francisco,

respectively

Mr. MacLaury, Assistant Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Meek, Manager, Securities Department, Federal

Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Kareken, Consultant, Federal Reserve Bank

of Minneapolis

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee held on January 11, 1966, were

approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the System

Open Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions and on

Open Market Account and Treasury operations in foreign currencies

for the period January 11 through 26, 1966, and a supplemental

report for January 27 through February 4, 1966.

Copies of these

reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. MacLaury

said that the Treasury gold stock would remain unchanged this

week.

During January, the Stabilization Fund made gold sales

amounting to $37 million, which were more than offset by a

purchase of $50 million in gold from the Bank of Canada, leaving

a month-end balance of $79 million.

During February, an order

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of at least $34 million from the Bank of France was expected.

On the other hand, a second $50 million of gold had been acquired

from Canada last week so that, on present prospects, there should

not be any decline in the stock this month.

Looking farther ahead, however, Mr. MacLaury continued,

one could not ignore the implications for the United States gold

stock of the situation in the London gold market.

During 1965 a

record volume of private demand for gold absorbed virtually the

entire new supply coming from South African and other mines and

from Russian sources, with the result that the Gold Pool ended

the year with virtually no net accumulation of gold.

As demand

continued to run ahead of supply, the $40 million reserve in the

Gold Pool at the beginning of 1966 had been exhausted and it again

became necessary to reactivate the gold sale consortium.

then the Pool had lost another $19 million net.

Since

There still was

reason to believe that Russia would need to sell another $200

million or so of gold between now and April, which might provide

some further breathing space.

Over the longer pull, though,

unless international political and financial tensions moderated

considerably during the spring and summer months, there could be

fairly heavy pressure upon the Gold Pool arrangements.

On the exchange markets, Mr. MacLaury said, sterling had

continued to show strength.

From September through January, the

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swing in the Bank of England's exchange position had amounted to

more than $2 billion.

Of that amount, $420 million had been

reflected in reserve increases,1/

During January, the Bank of England made

repayments of central bank debt totaling $325 million--$275 to

the Federal Reserve and $50 million to the Bank for International

Settlements-2/

That still left, at month-end, a net

drain of roughly $90 million on British reserves.

Mr. MacLaury reported that there was general agreement

among most of the British and American officials involved that

the British would run a serious risk of damaging the recovery

of confidence in sterling if they were to show a sizable reserve

decline for January.

action were open.

To avert that risk, several courses of

First, the Bank of England might have made a

new drawing on the swap line; but that course was opposed both

by the Bank of England and by the System, on the grounds that

it would represent a leapfrogging procedure of employing a new

drawing to pay off an earlier drawing.

Second, the British

Government might have drawn on its portfolio of United States

1/ Part of one sentence has been deleted at this point for one

of the reasons cited in the preface. The deleted material referred

to ways in which the Bank of England's dollar gains had been employed.

2/ One sentence and part of another have been deleted at this point

for one of the reasons cited in the preface. The deleted material

referred to other operations of the Bank of England in January.

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securities, but that alternative was flatly rejected by Chancellor

Callaghan. Third, the British Government might have drawn on its

$250 million line of credit with the Export-Import Bank, but that

course was opposed for U.S. balance of payments reasons by the

U.S. Treasury.

There remained the fourth alternative of employing

the joint Treasury-Federal Reserve authorization granted last

September of $400 million for exchange operations to support the

recovery of sterling.

As it turned out, the $90 million needed

to prevent a British reserve decline was provided from this

source on a one-day swap over the month-end, divided equally

between the Treasury and the Federal Reserve.

In February, Mr. MacLaury continued, the Bank of England

again started off the month with outpayments of $290 million, of

which $200 million reflected repayment of the remaining debt

under the $750 million swap line with the System and $90 million

repayment of the one-day swap with the Treasury and Federal Reserve.

In addition, a sizable volume of forward contracts would come due

in February.

In the past February generally had been a seasonally

favorable month and the Bank of England might well take in

sufficient funds before the month-end to avoid any net reserve

loss.

In the first few days they already had taken in not quite

$100 million.

If, however, a short-fall should materialize,

arrangements had been made with the Bank of England and the Bank

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of Italy for a triangular operation, having the dual objectives

of strengthening the British reserve position and enabling the

Federal Reserve to liquidate the bulk of its swap drawings on

the Bank of Italy.

As part of the credit package put together

last September, the Bank of Italy committed itself to provide

support for sterling, if needed, up to the amount of $70 million.

If circumstances required, the Bank of England would draw $70

million of lire from the Bank of Italy at the end of February

and sell the lire to the Federal Reserve against dollars,

thereby strengthening the British reserve position by $70 million

and enabling the Federal Reserve to pay off that amount of its

lira debt to the Bank of Italy.

During the four weeks since the last meeting, Mr. MacLaury

observed, the dollar had continued to show strength against nearly

all of the continental currencies.

Although the unwinding of year

end positions undoubtedly had contributed to that strength, the

improvement went beyond such technical factors.

In part, he

thought, the dollar was benefiting from the continued reversal

of short sterling positions.

In addition, he could not help but

believe that the effects were being seen of the improvement in

the U.S. balance of payments situation.

The voluntary foreign

credit restraint program with respect to corporations seemed to

be biting harder, and the movement of rates in both the exchange

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markets and the Euro-dollar market indicated that there was, if

not a growing scarcity of dollars, at least a cessation of

excessive dollar availabilities.

Even in the case of Italy, the

huge dollar inflows of previous months had ended; in fact, there

had been a slight net decline in dollar holdings in the first

three weeks of January.

And, in the case of France, the rate

had been off the ceiling now for more than a month.

Likewise,

with the Belgian franc under some pressure, the System was able

to buy from the Belgian National Bank sufficient francs to pay

off the remaining $35 million equivalent debt under its standby

facility with that bank.

In addition, the Account Management

was in the New York market more or less continuously during the

period, buying marks for Treasury account to build up the balances

that were used on February 1 to repay a $50 million equivalent

mark-denominated bond maturing on that date.

As the Committee would recall, Mr. MacLaury said, at a

recent meeting Mr. Hayes had mentioned that discussions were

taking place among central bankers at the Bank for International

Settlements in an effort to find a way of dealing with the

threat to sterling of possible drains of sterling balances.

package of credits was now shaping up, based on the roughly

$1 billion of credits made available to the Bank of England

last September.

The United States had participated to the

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extent of $400 million--$200 million each for System and Treasuryunder an authorization to purchase sterling on a covered or

guaranteed basis.

The other participants in the arrangement set

a time limit of six months on the facilities that they provided.

Present indications were that they would agree to extend their

credit arrangements for a one-year period from March 15, the

current expiration date, channeling any assistance that might

in fact be required through the BIS on the basis of sterling

swaps.

U.S. participation would continue as at present, on a

bilateral basis with the Bank of England.

In response to questions, Mr. MacLaury said that about

$2 billion of gold had come onto the London market in 1965--$1.2

billion from new production, $375 million from Russian sales,

and about $500 million from other sources.

The off-take also was

about $2 billion, absorbing virtually the entire supply.

Of the

latter amount, mainland China had accounted for a relatively small

part of the total--somewhat over $100 million.

Final figures were

not yet available on the change during 1965 in the volume of gold

held in official reserves by non-Communist countries, but he

thought it would show a small increase.

South Africa had

contributed between $200 and $300 million of gold to the market

in the first half of 1965, but in September that country began to

rebuild its own holdings, and thus far had withheld about $125

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million of new production from the market.

With respect to

Canada, there was some possibility of additional sales of gold

by that country to the U.S.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the System open market transactions in

foreign currencies during the period

January 11 through February 7, 1966,

were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. MacLaury then reported that a System drawing on the

swap arrangement with the Bank of Italy, in the amount of $100

million equivalent, would mature on February 28, and he requested

the Committee's approval to renew the drawing a second time, if

that should prove necessary.

As he had indicated earlier, there

was a possibility that transactions between the British and the

Italians might permit reduction, if not full repayment, of the

drawing in the near future.

Mr. Shepardson remarked that he hoped the System would

repay the drawing as soon as possible, and Mr. MacLaury replied

that that was the intention of the Account Management.

Possible renewal of the $100

million drawing on the Bank of

Italy was noted without objection.

Chairman Martin invited Mr. Daane to comment on devel

opments at the recent meeting of the Deputies of the Group of

Ten.

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Mr. Daane said that the Deputies had met in Paris on

January 31, February 1, and part of February 2.

As he had

indicated to the Committee earlier, the discussions at the

previous meetings--in November and December--had involved rather

frank and exploratory exchanges of views.

At this meeting a

long step had been taken toward the negotiating phase.

The

meeting consisted mainly of a searching question-and-answer

review of four papers that had been put forward, including one

containing a U.S. proposal.

He would outline the U.S. proposal first, Mr. Daane

observed, although it was not in fact the first advanced at the

meeting.

Under Secretary of Treasury Deming had made clear that

the proposal was a serious one, arrived at carefully by the U.S.

Government.

It had been reviewed thoroughly at a series of meet

ings--nine or ten in number--of the so-called Dillon

Advisory

Committee to the Treasury; and it had been given painstaking

consideration by representatives of the Government agencies

concerned, including the Federal Reserve.

Also, it had been

discussed with interested members of Congress and reviewed by

the President.

In essence, Mr. Daane said, the proposal called for a

dual approach, with the first part involving the creation of

special drawing rights for all member countries of the

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International Monetary Fund, both Group of Ten countries and

others.

Those rights would be distinct from all existing

drawing rights in the Fund.

In operation they would resemble

the drawing rights under the present gold tranches; unlike the

latter, however, there would be no input of gold in connection

with them.

The other part of the dual approach would involve the

creation of a new reserve unit, Mr. Daane continued.

The new

unit would constitute a claim on a pool of currencies paid in

by a group of advanced countries.

The U.S. had not taken a

hard and fast position on the question of the exact composition

of that group, but had suggested that a small number of countries

in addition to the members of the Group of Ten might be brought

in.

The new units would be allocated on the basis of IMF quotas,

and would carry a gold-value guarantee.

Among a number of

technical provisions, there would be one establishing limits on

holdings by creditor countries, of perhaps 2 or 3 times the

amount of units allocated to the country.

Another provision

was intended to enable the U.S.--or any country that made its

currency convertible into gold--to avoid excessive accumulation

of the new units by selling them to other countries against its

own currency.

In addition, the U.S. proposal called for a "set

aside" of new units or currencies by the limited group for the

benefit of the rest of the world.

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Some figures had been advanced in connection with the

U.S. proposal for the sake of illustration, Mr. Daane said.

Thus,

it was noted that total world reserves, consisting principally of

gold and reserve currencies, were about $70 billion at present.

If one reasoned that reserves should be increased at a 3 per

cent annual rate, slightly over $2 billion of new reserves would

be needed each year.

Allowing for additions to the monetary

gold stock at the recent average rate of $500-$600 million a

year, it would be necessary to create about $1-1/2 billion in

new reserves each year.

It was suggested that that amount be

divided equally between new drawing rights and new reserve units,

each of which would then amount to $750 million per year.

Similarly, if one started with a 4 per cent rate of reserve

growth, about $1 billion each would be created annually in the

form of drawing rights and new units.

The first paper actually discussed at the meeting,

Mr. Daane continued, was put forth by the Canadians, who made

clear that it was not an official proposal but simply a collection

of views--largely those of the Finance Ministry.

The Canadian

proposal concentrated on the construction of a new unit, some

what similar to the one contemplated in the U.S. proposal but

with a few interesting differences.

Of these, the most important

was the provision for the new unit to carry a rather high rate of

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interest, set one or two percentage points below the U.S.

Treasury bill rate.

The U.S. proposal had not involved an

interest return, although the U.S. delegation had indicated that

its position on that question was neutral.

The Canadians

stressed the desirability of an interest return in order to

make the new unit more acceptable.

As to the make-up of the

group of participating countries, the Canadians, like the U.S.

representatives, were searching for some criteria for qualifi

cation, and were thinking in terms of about 15 or 16 countries.

The third paper, Mr. Daane said, was an official

proposal put forward by the British.

Again, there were a

number of points of similarity with the U.S., as well as the

Canadian, proposals, and some points of difference.

One

distinctive feature was a requirement that any holdings of

the new unit in excess of the holding limit would be converted

directly into gold.

Another interesting variant reflected the

British concern with the problem of conversion of sterling

balances, to which Mr. MacLaury had alluded, and of dollar

balances.

They proposed that the new units be available not

only to increase reserve assets but also to provide an alternative

asset for countries wanting to convert reserve currency holdings.

The fourth proposal, Mr. Daane noted, was advanced by

Mr. Emminger, the Chairman of the Group of Ten Deputies, who

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said that it represented his own views.

It was concurred in by

a number of delegations, however, and could be considered to

represent a synthesis of the views of the continental Europeans

excluding the French--and, it was learned later, the Belgians.

The Emminger proposal called for a new reserve unit whose initial

creation would require a unanimous vote, with subsequent decisions

made by majority vote.

The unit would be used by and allocated

to only a limited group of countries, and it would be used in

transfers in a one-to-one ratio with gold.

The needs of countries

outside the group would be met by providing for set-asides of

the new unit.

Mr. Daane remarked that the French made no new proposals

at the meeting.

They noted that they had had a proposal on the

table for a year and a half, and that there was no change in

their position.

In sum, Mr. Daane said, the meeting pointed up both the

areas of agreement and the areas of division.

As to the former,

all of the proposals provided for reserve units to be created

under the responsibility of a limited group of countries.

All

were reasonably close with respect to the membership of the

group that would receive the units, and all implied a search for

some qualifying criteria that pointed to inclusion of roughly

15 or 16 countries.

There was a fair consensus that the amounts

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of the new reserve asset created should be established in terms

of a growth trend, rather than decided ad hoc each year; and

that the purpose was to provide for global needs rather than

just those of a particular group of countries.

As to the differences, Mr. Daane continued, the major

one was in the attitude taken to the dual approach recommended

by the U.S.

The U.S. proposal was labeled by some as "quadri

lateral" because it provided for drawing rights both for the

group and for other countries, for distribution of the new units

to the group, and for a set-aside of the units for other

countries.

There was much sentiment for a simpler procedure,

perhaps involving a set-aside of the new units to finance

drawings by the countries outside the group, and only units

for the group.

Other major differences, Mr. Daane said, related to the

holding limit that the U.S. had suggested as a means of safe

guarding against abuses, and to the gold link which the

Emminger proposal would involve.

Speaking for the U.S., he

(Mr. Daane) had raised a number of questions regarding the gold

link.

His basic question was whether that link was intended

simply to provide further discipline on the actions of deficit

countries.

The second was whether such a gold link would not

in effect induce much larger holdings of gold--both by the

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countries within the group, particularly those with low gold

ratios at present, and by countries outside the group.

Dr.

Emminger answered those questions quite vigorously and effec

tively.

He argued, in effect, that if the new unit had a gold

link and also carried an interest return, one could expect that

the unit would become more desirable than gold, and that its

creation therefore would be constructive rather than disruptive.

Mr. Daane added that Mr. Polak spoke on behalf of the

Managing Director of the IMF, mainly on two points.

First, he

noted that the Director was anxious that there be recognition

of the reserve needs of countries beyond a limited group, a

view to which the U.S. had been fully sympathetic all along.

Secondly, it was the Director's view that the decision-making

process should be broadened to involve more countries.

Near

the close of the meeting one of the German representatives had

made a provocative and thoughtful statement.

He noted that

the group was faced with the momentous decision to create

money, and raised the question of whether it would not be

better to do so in the traditional way--which Mr. Daane inter

preted to mean within the framework of the IMF.

That position,

Mr. Daane thought, was premised on the fear that the other route

would lead to excessive world liquidity.

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Mr. Daane concluded by noting that there would be another

meeting on March 7 and 8, in which, he presumed, the group would

move a little closer to negotiations.

That would be followed by

a longer meeting in Washington during the third week of April.

He was happy to note that the U.S. delegation now included

Mr. Robert Solomon of the Board's staff, in addition to the

customary participants--Under Secretary of the Treasury Deming,

Messrs. Willis and McGrew of the Treasury, and himself.

In answer to Mr. Ellis' question as to how it was

proposed to execute the provision for an interest return on the

new unit, Mr. Daane said the group had not got down to the

point of working out all of the mechanics on that question.

In general, the debtor would pay the interest on any credit

received--that is, on assets used.

That, of course, could be

done on either a gross or net basis.

Mr. Galusha commented that recent news stories had

suggested that the Deputies had made far greater progress in

their discussions than had been anticipated, and that the

solution to the problem now appeared possible.

He asked whether

that was Mr. Daane's impression.

Mr. Daane replied that he thought such an appraisal

was correct if the progress was measured in terms of the

original charge given to the Deputies, to search out areas of

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agreement.

There had been forward movement at each of three

recent meetings and, as he had indicated, there was clear

progress toward agreement in several important areas.

also, however, were some important disagreements.

There

In the words

of one participant, used in a personal conversation at the end

of the meeting, there had been both progress and retrogression.

Mr. Hayes said he agreed with Mr. Daane's appraisal.

It should be borne in mind, he thought, that some of the

differences between the positions of the U.S. and some other

countries were exceedingly important to the U.S.

In his

personal view, it was far better to make progress slowly toward

the right decision rather than to accelerate the proceedings

for the sake of reaching some agreement.

Mr. Daane indicated that he shared Mr. Hayes' view.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the

members of the Committee a report from the Manager of the

System Open Market Account covering open market operations in

U.S. Government securities and bankers' acceptances for the

period January 11 through 26, 1966, and a supplemental report

for January 27 through February 7, 1966.

Copies of both

reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes

commented as follows:

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The Treasury refunding of outstanding February

maturities, in which owners of April, May, and August

maturities were given a chance to prerefund their holdings,

was the dominant feature of the period since the last

meeting of the Committee. The Treasury's decision to make

this more than a routine operation and to offer a 5 per

cent note was a bold move, designed to ease the problems

of debt management later in the year. And despite some

uneasy moments while the books were open, the decision

turned out to be a wise one. While attrition in the

February and April issues was somewhat greater than

expected, public subscription of $6.5 billion to the

5 per cent notes was substantially greater than the

market anticipated at the time the books closed and has

reduced the May and August refunding operations to routine

proportions.

The Treasury announcement was initially very well

received in the market, but the opening of the books on

Monday, January 31, coincided with the resumption of

bombing in North Vietnam and with accelerated discussion

of the likelihood that monetary policy was apt to play

the leading role in any effort to restrain inflationary

pressures in the months ahead. In this atmosphere prices

of some long-term Government bonds declined by as much as

a full point during the three-day period while the books

were open, and prices of rights and when-issued securities

also declined, with the when-issued 5s closing the period

at par bid compared with a premium of 7/64 immediately

following the Treasury announcement, Dealer support of

the refunding was minimal--with net positions in both

new issues only $300 million--and with short positions

in outstanding intermediate issues rising significantly

during the financing. Dealer pessimism was not shared by

holders of the issues eligible for exchange, however, as

the results indicated. The notes appear to be in firm

hands with little or no speculative activity and, as

noted, there are no large dealer inventories overhanging

the market. Since the books closed prices of the new

issues moved up somewhat until yesterday when the 5s

closed at par bid.

During the period since the Committee last met, the

money market--at least as reflected in the Federal funds

rate and member bank borrowing at the Reserve banks--has

generally been relatively comfortable, as the extreme

pressure on money center banks finally eased. A small net

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borrowed reserve figure has been maintained as System

open market operations were generally directed towards

maintaining an even keel surrounding the Treasury

financing. A sizable proportion of the reserves provided

involved repurchase agreements against rights.

In

contrast to the preceding period, there has been a general

tendency since the last meeting of the Committee--at least

until the past week--for reserve availability to exceed

projections, as float stayed higher than anticipated and

required reserves declined more than seasonally. Despite

the absence of extreme pressures on the banking system,

short-term interest rates moved irregularly higher over

the period, with the three-month bill rate hitting an

all-time high of 4,67 per cent in the auction on January

17, and with rates on three-month acceptances raised by

dealers to 5 per cent bid on February 1. In yesterday's

auction the 3- and 6-month bills were sold at average

rates of about 4.65 and 4.77 per cent, respectively.

Rates on long-term securities, which had been relatively

stable since their initial adjustment to the discount

rate change, rose by about 10-15 basis points.

While the market does not seem to have been at all

impressed, the investor response to the Treasury refunding

may hold some interesting implications about the attrac

tiveness to investors of the historically high yield

levels of intermediate- and long-term Government bonds.

At the same time, at least some of the larger banks, many

of which have been heavily dependent on borrowed funds,

are taking a hard look at their lending policies. To

the extent that this process results in greater reluctance

to meet loan demands, some of the pressure may be removed

from the Federal funds and CD markets. But it is not so

clear what pressures would be shifted to other markets

as corporations and others seek to meet their growing

credit needs elsewhere.

In the meantime, the markets continue to be extremely

sensitive to developments in Viet Nam, to price movements,

and to demand pressures, both financial and real. Amidst

it all, there appears to be a growing feeling that monetary

policy will be forced to play the leading role in any

anti-inflationary campaign. Some further tightening of

monetary policy may well have already been discounted by

the market and an unexpected settlement in Viet Nam could

have a major impact on expectations. But the dominant mood

continues to be one of anticipation of growing pressure on

financial markets as the year progresses. At the moment the

pressure appears to be focusing in the longer end of the market.

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Mr. Swan referred to Mr. Holmes' observations that dealer

participation in the refunding had been minimal and that the new

securities appeared to be in firm hands.

He asked what implications

those facts had for the period over which an even keel policy would

be required.

Mr. Holmes replied that he thought an even keel clearly

should be maintained until the payment date for the refunding,

February 15.

While it was somewhat difficult to understand

yesterday's decline in price of the new securities, dealers had

been seeing a continuing moderate demand for those securities.

On

the whole, he saw no particular problems ahead in connection with

the refunding, and he did not expect the process of distribution

to be lengthy.

Mr. Daane asked what consequences for interest rates Mr.

Holmes would envisage if net borrowed reserve figures were deepened

from their recent levels.

Was the rate impact likely to be minor

since, as Mr. Holmes had reported, the market may already have

discounted some further tightening of monetary policy?

Mr. Holmes remarked that, other things equal, a higher

level of net borrowed reserves probably was already discounted by

the market.

While there was a great deal encompassed by the "other

things equal" qualification, he doubted that somewhat deeper net

borrowed reserves would act to push rates higher, particularly if

some of the other upward pressures on rates diminished.

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Mr. Hickman asked whether the identity of the sellers

accounting for yesterday's decline in the price of the new

securities was known.

Mr. Holmes replied that there were some

indications of sales by investors, but the decline appeared to

be mainly due to professional activity, reflecting the reluctance

of dealers to take a long position in the securities.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote, the

open market transactions in Government

securities and bankers' acceptances during

the period January 11 through February 7,

1966 were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Secretary's note: On February 1, 1966, the

following message had been transmitted by

Mr. Young to members of the Committee, by

telegram to those outside of Washington:

The following message has been received from System

Account Manager:

"Referring to current Treasury offering, System Account

holds $2,232,950,000 of notes maturing February 15, 1966,

about 47% of total outstanding. Account management proposes

that Account exchange its entire holdings through subscrip

tion for $1,232,950,000 (about 55%) of the 4-7/8% notes

maturing August 15, 1967 and $1 billion (about 45%) into

the 5% notes maturing November 15, 1970. Principal reasons

for the proposal are avoidance of excessively heavy System

holdings of any single Treasury issue, ample holdings

maturing in one and two years, and the relatively short

maturity of the 5% notes offered by the Treasury.

"1. Assuming the public subscribes to $1,200 million

4-7/8% notes, if the System's entire holdings were exchanged

into the 4-7/8% notes, it would represent 65% of the entire

issue; under the proposed plan it will be 50% of the entire

issue.

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"2. Although it is difficult to assess at this moment

how many fives there will be subscribed by the public

(including prerefunding of May and August maturities) it

appears unlikely that System holdings of the 5% notes would

be excessive relative to public holdings.

"3. After the exchange, 55% of the total System Account

would mature in one year and 84% in two years."

Please wire whether you would approve the Manager's

proposal.

Advices subsequently were received from

all available members of the Committee

indicating that they approved the Manager's

proposal.

Chairman Martin called at this point for the staff economic

and financial reports, supplementing the written reports that had

been distributed prior to the meeting, copies of which have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

Mr. Holland made the following statement on economic

conditions:

I would like to focus my comments on price pressures

this morning, for it seems likely to me that the next

round of critical choices for stabilization policy,

monetary and otherwise, will turn largely on the current

and prospective performance of prices.

The over-all performance of our economy this past

year has brought us very close to several of our

domestic economic goals. Our level of output is high,

and demand is broadly based and growing rapidly. Rates

of resource utilization are correspondingly high, with

manufacturing output running at better than 91 per cent

of rated capacity and unemployment in January finally

down to the 4 per cent milestone. But, partly for these

very reasons, our price performance this past year has

been less good than earlier. To be explicit, the index

of wholesale prices of industrial commodities has been

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rising at around a 1-1/2 per cent annual rate throughout

this past year and a quarter, after virtually no net

change (+.3 per cent) earlier in this expansion.

From this point forward--absent an unlikely outbreak

of peace in Viet Nam--the outlook seems to me to be for

a further gradual step-up in the rate of price advance.

This, in a nutshell, implies significantly more price

rise this year than last, and more than has been projected

by the Council of Economic Advisers and various other

Administration officials.

Let me tick off briefly the reasons for this con

clusion. The chief cause of this difference from the

Council outlook is not hard to find: we project more

demand than they do. Our latest green book 1/projections

through the first quarter of 1966 unfold along a track

that runs roughly $5 billion higher than the Council's

projection. Besides some variation in the timing of the

build-up of Federal outlays, the biggest differences lie

in our stronger figures for plant and equipment expenditures

and inventory additions. Even these may strike us as too

low, once the full implications of the sharp upward tilt

of November-December inventory statistics are taken into

account.

It may be that businesses are already acting in

recognition of some of the market implications of these

stronger demands. The surprisingly strong fourth-quarter

inventory accumulation probably includes some buying to

guard against longer delivery times, and also some stocking

in anticipation of price advances. By January, the monthly

purchasing agents' survey showed that more than three-fifths

of the reporting firms were paying higher prices than a

month earlier, a sharp rise from the two-fifths figure

reported in December and the highest proportion in seven

years.

1/ The report, "Current Economic and Financial Conditions,"

prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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Nonetheless, while price increases seem to be having

a more pervasive effect, they are not yet omnipresent and

the bulk of them still are not very large. This explains

why the average price index for industrial commodities

has not shown much acceleration to date. While a strong

upward thrust has appeared in the latest over-all price

indexes, it has stemmed chiefly from the further sharp

rise in agricultural prices. These price increases did

not attach to farm products that serve as industrial raw

materials; rather, they have been confined mainly to food

stuffs, chiefly meat. Such price increases are not much

of a direct addition to business costs outside the food

processing industry. The consequent increases of retail

food prices, however, are obvious to the average wage

earner, and will undoubtedly stiffen demands in this year's

labor negotiations. It is true that relatively few major

labor contracts are up for negotiation until after midyear,

and by then food costs may well be showing some declines.

Nonetheless, in the interim, a great many less noticeable

wage bargains inside and outside the unionized area are

likely to be influenced both by limited manpower supplies

and by the higher cost of living.

Business production costs are also likely to be

enlarged somewhat by nonwage increases in labor cost.

Elasticity of the labor supply surprised many observers

last year, but growth in the labor force was mainly among

inexperienced youths and women. Skilled adult male labor

is scarce. Recent trends suggest employers are hiring

more inexperienced workers and perhaps are beginning some

hoarding of labor. This will help make a dent in the

toughest of the remaining unemployment problems--the

inexperienced youngsters, the disadvantaged, the minority

groups--but there will probably be a price to pay over

the short run in the form of slower productivity gains

and higher training costs. The combination of these

influences, plus the higher Social Security taxes on employers,

can easily push unit labor costs in manufacturing above

the plateau maintained for most of this expansion, and

add a small measure of cost-push to the demand-pull likely

to be at work on prices as the year progresses.

What assurance do we have that the resultant price

action will not develop rapidly into an old-fashioned

inflationary outbreak? It is true that many individuals

and businesses command the financial resources to finance

a sudden price-boosting surge of spending if military or

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other developments were to deliver the necessary shock to

expectations. But this prospect appears less likely to me

than a fairly gradual demand-pull, cost-push, price advance.

The major moderating influences are persisting forces often

cited to this Committee: the rapid rate of expansion of

plant capacity, the trend toward longer-run pricing policies

on the part of business, still strong domestic interproduct

competition, and vigorous competition for certain products

supplied by foreign producers. (This latter is a mixed

blessing, of course, as Mr. Hersey's report on recent import

trends will show.)

Reinforcing these factors will be the

weight of the Administration "guideposts" and the President's

own potent persuasion in headline cases of threatened price

advances.

But, in my judgment, all these influences will not

suffice to prevent the projected growth of public and

private demands from provoking some increase in the rate

of price rise, unless buttressed before long by a somewhat

greater degree of fiscal and monetary restraint than has

been observable up to now. Comments on how much further

financial restraint may already be in train, and considera

tions as to the desirable composition and timing of any

changes in the fiscal-monetary mix, I shall leave to my

colleague, Mr. Koch, to illumine.

Mr. Koch made the following statement concerning financial

developments:

With the most appropriate posture for monetary policy

over the next couple of weeks likely to be of an even keel

nature, at least until the payment date of the current

Treasury refunding, and with recent developments adequately

covered by the staff written materials and by Mr. Holmes'

remarks, I should like to spend my few minutes this morning

talking mainly about some of the more basic, longer-run,

domestic financial developments that are facing us.

There was considerable discussion at our last meeting

as to whether quantities of credit or liquid assets, or

interest rates, should be our main target over the coming

months. I don't think it is a question of "either-or."

We have to keep both types of factors uppermost in our

minds, continually watching their effects on each other,

their effects on spending and investing, and the changing

interactions among the real and financial variables.

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Unfortunately, with our present state of knowledge, we

do not know enough about the strength and the timing of

financial restraint to be sure about either the volume

of credit flows or the level of interest rates that would

be consistent with a sustainable rate of growth of GNP

given our current state of resource use.

Historical evidence does suggest, however, that

under conditions of high resource use and expanding

demands the pace of total credit growth can be large,

and some increases in interest rates can occur, and

still be consistent with sustainable economic growth

without inflation. The job of monetary policy is to

determine the increases in both financial variables

that would be consistent with such a happy state of

affairs.

There is evidence that the monetary restraint

we have been seeking is having some effects. Both

statistics and opinions obtained from the larger banks

suggest that they are firming up their lending and

investing practices. The weekly reporting banks have

reduced their holdings of municipal and agency

securities on balance in recent weeks and have made

quite prompt redistribution of the new Treasury issues

they acquired originally for tax and loan credit.

Credit expansion at the nonweekly reporting banks,

however, seems to have continued strong throughout

January.

Also, in the last two months longer-term interest

rates, even mortgage rates, have risen rather sharply

for such a short period of time. Some feel that this

is the main avenue through which monetary policy affects

the real economy. The impact of this recent rise in

longer-term interest rates on housing starts and other

types of investment may not be visible for some months.

But even if monetary restraint is beginning to

bite, there are reasons for expecting a fairly rapid

total credit expansion to continue in the coming months.

One reason lies in the business area. After economic

expansions have gone on for several years, as this one

has, business investment tends to grow sharply and

available internal funds to level off. As a result,

external financing demands jump. Last year, for

example, business external financing increased 50 per

cent over 1964. With the growth in internal funds

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likely to be slow this year, a further large increase

in external financing will be required to finance a

desired volume of investment.

The Federal Government will also add to, rather

than subtract from, total credit demands in the coming

months despite the apparently rosy look of the 1967

administrative and cash budgets. To assess the indirect

as well as direct impacts of the Federal budget on

financial markets, one has to translate the figures on

spending and receipts in terms of their likely effects

on the volume of the Federal debt held by the public

and then to add such important influences as the projected

speed-up of corporate taxes and the increased sale of

financial assets. When one does this, the over-all demands

on the financial markets stemming from Federal fiscal

developments are likely to be considerably larger this

year than in 1965, although it is very difficult to

pinpoint the exact timing of the asset transactions.

This conclusion is based on the volume of Federal

spending projected in the Budget Document which, unless

developments in Viet Nam improve greatly soon, will no

doubt prove understated. Nondefense spending also may

be underestimated.

Thus, if the projections of GNP that are currently

prevalent prove to be true, in formulating monetary policy

in the months ahead we will have to expect, and I feel

should consider appropriate, further fairly rapid growth

in the rate of over-all credit expansion as well as some

additional increase in interest rates. Credit markets

are in a sensitive state these days and recent events,

such as the resumption of bombing in Viet Nam and the

resultant increased talk of the likelihood of inflation

and the need for a tighter monetary policy, have tended

to make the interest rate outlook even more bearish. One

near-term effect of this has been to keep the 3-month

Treasury bill rate in the 4.60-4.65 per cent range and to put

further upward pressure on bond yields.

I am less sure about likely future monetary expansion

than total credit expansion, since it is not at all clear

how much elasticity we still have in the existing monetary

stock; that is, how much the likely increase in the demand

for balances for transactions purposes will be offset by

the decrease in the demand for money as a result of a

further likely rise in interest rates on substitutes for

money. The rate of expansion in bank credit, as contrasted

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to total credit, will likely decline even if money

supply and demand deposit growth continue substantial

for, with rising market rates of interest, banks will

find time and savings funds more difficult and costly

to obtain. The slackened growth in bank time and

savings deposits recently, despite the changes in

Regulation Q in early December, may already be

reflecting this fact.

We are likely to have to support this course of

domestic financial developments by further monetary

restraint, but I would hope that the major share of

any needed further restraint on the economy would come

from fiscal policy.

Interest rates are already historically high. If

they go much higher, it may be difficult to get some of

the sticky ones down when economic conditions call for

lower rates. High interest rates also have significant

differential effects on the various sectors of the

economy, tending to limit growth-inducting investment

more than consumption. In the period ahead, restraint

on consumption may prove to be the more appropriate

policy goal. Of course, if adequate anti-inflationary

fiscal measures are not taken promptly enough, it will

put an added burden on the more flexible monetary

policy instrument to help keep further economic

expansion on a sustainable basis.

Mr. Hickman asked if there was any evidence that the Admin

istration was planning to increase the degree of fiscal restraint

beyond that outlined in the report of the Council of Economic

Advisers.

Mr. Koch replied that, while he had no specific information

on the subject, he assumed that the economists at the Council and

Treasury were thinking about the possible need for further fiscal

restraint.

Mr. Hersey presented the following statement on the balance

of payments:

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One of the most striking pieces of economic intel

ligence to emerge in the past fortnight was the news

that U.S. imports in the last three months of 1965 were

even larger than in the preceding three months, with

only a slight decline in steel imports. Commerce

Department analysts are adjusting the Census figures

down in the fourth quarter and up in the preceding

quarter, to correct for statistical lags. Even so,

they find a rise at a 10 per cent annual rate. In

relation to GNP, fourth-quarter imports were at an

almost unprecedented 3.30 per cent of total GNP

expenditures. If these high and rising imports are

a harbinger of what we have to expect in 1966, and if

we cannot improve much on the fourth-quarter trade

surplus, which was only a little over $5 billion at

an annual rate, the outlook for achieving any

significant reduction in our international payments

deficit will be bleak indeed.

Imports in the fourth quarter were 17 per cent

higher than those of the final quarter of 1964. The

broad features of the upsurge that was occurring last

year can be seen from corrected breakdowns available

for the third quarter. First, imports of manufacturesthat is, of consumer goods and capital equipmenthave been rising at an accelerated pace. The trend

has been steep for many years. In the mid-1950's

these goods made up one-tenth of total imports. By

1964 they were nearly one-fourth of the total, having

risen at a rate of 18 per cent a year, compounded.

But now this rise has accelerated to about 25 per cent

per annum. Second, imports of semimanufactured and

crude materials--which constitute about two-fifths of

the total--had a rising trend from the mid-1950's to

1962 of only 3 per cent a year, with large fluctuations

of a cyclical character around this trend. From 1962

to the present the rise has been steadily accelerating.

Data for October and November, corrected as well as

we can, indicate an annual rise in imports of materials

at least as great as the 18 per cent shown for the

third quarter. Finally, imports of petroleum (under

the quota system since 1959) have been rising very

slowly in value terms, and the same has been true of

our imports of foods.

Against this background, we must ask: is the rise

of total imports going to continue in the 10-to-20 per

cent range this year? Or, can we take reassurance from

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the standard forecasts, which have been projecting a

smaller rise--in the 5-to-10 per cent range? For

example, the National Foreign Trade Council projection

implies a rise to the fourth quarter of 1966 of only

5 per cent, which is less than the 7 per cent average

experienced in the past decade.

In the past, rapid increase in imports has tended

to go with heavy inventory investment and with rapid

increase in the materials and business equipment

components of the industrial production index. The

indications that inventory investment in the fourth

quarter was large are wholly consistent with the recent

import picture. Under current conditions I regard the

NFTC projection as implausibly low. The problem of

slowing the rise in imports now is closely linked with

the problem of holding down the rate of inventory

investment and damping capital outlays.

As I see it, the two big economic challenges that

face the country are twin problems: how to end our

balance of payments deficits soon, and how to make a smooth

transition to stable growth at high employment.

Excessive imports threaten our success on the balance

of payments front; excessive inventory investments,

along with excessively accelerated fixed capital

investments, threaten the smooth passage we hope for

in the economic life of the country.

The growing uneasiness about prices can aggravate

both problems. Fears of price increases may already be

a motive for stocking and ordering ahead, and excessive

bunching of ordering may already be giving a push to the

upward movement of domestic prices and encouraging

greater importing.

Can we accept these conditions as necessary and

inevitable, and hope to ride through them without

fear either of a subsequent letdown in the domestic

economy or of critical developments in the balance of

payments?

I won't try to deal with the domestic side of the

question. For the balance of payments, after we get

beyond the seasonally favorable first quarter the next

several months may be extraordinarily critical ones.

It is not only the import bill that is at stake.

Excessive domestic demand can suck back potential

exports as well as suck in imports. Export prospects

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look reasonably favorable now, but there is no guaranty

that sales will increase as much as we would like. If

the trade balance fails to improve in the next few months,

probably the balance of payments as a whole will worsen,

for the adverse balance of capital movements and Government

payments is likely to be somewhat larger in coming months

than it was in the fourth quarter of 1965. And if the

idea gains ground among investors and businessmen that

the only hope the Government has for handling the balance

of payments is instituting a set of controls more permanent

and less voluntary than those we have now, capital outflows

may well begin to accelerate again. Eventually our problems

with the dollar could begin to resemble Britain's with

sterling.

The Administration has held out great hopes--most

recently in the President's Economic Report--that "we

intend to complete the job (of moving toward payments

balance) this year."

The question is, how is this to

be done?

I would like to quote, in conclusion, what seems to

me a relevant part of a paragraph in the Economic Report,

in which the President states that he will look to the

Federal Reserve System for help in . . . "preventing ex

cessive credit flows that could carry the pace of expansion

beyond prudent speed limits."

Chairman Martin then called for the go-around of comments and

views on economic conditions and monetary policy.

Mr. Hayes, who

began the go-around, made the following statement:

Now that we are one month into the new year, we

have not only statistical evidence of a stronger economy

in December than we believed it to be at our last meeting,

but also clear signs that the rapid pace of the expansion

is continuing. This year we see no sign of the "winter

doldrums" that used to be a normal seasonal phenomenon

early in the calendar year. Moreover, the outlook for

1966 is very strong. In the private sector, besides the

stimulus of vigorous consumer demand and record business

outlays on plant and equipment, accelerated inventory

accumulation may be becoming a significant additional

factor.

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all prospective economic and financial developments.

The

rising scale of military operations has clearly contributed

to the strong business outlook, has generated skepticism

as to the realism of the Federal budget, and has been a

major cause of continuing upward pressure on interest

rates of all maturities. We must have in mind this

dominant uncertainty, with its possibility for bringing

unexpected changes in the economic picture in either

direction.

Notwithstanding the Administration's strenous efforts

to produce a budget that would not add to inflationary

pressures, the general atmosphere remains one of apprehen

sion that excessive demands are building up. Our analysis

suggests that although the budget as presented should be

much less stimulative than the extraordinarily stimulative

1966 budget, it will still make a considerable expansionary

contribution. All indications are that rising expenditures

all along the line will increasingly press against available

resources of labor and plant capacity. These pressures

are likely to be especially noticeable in the area of

manpower; and since the ranks of the unemployed consist,

to a much greater degree than a year ago, of untrained

workers, their absorption into employment could exert a

strong initial drag on productivity. The changes of con

tinuing stability in unit labor costs appear dim. While

the increase in industrial wholesale prices remained

relatively moderate in 1965, with no signs of acceleration

in the over-all index, the price advances were quite

pervasive and indeed increasingly so as the year went by.

The outlook for prices in 1966 is clearly disturbing; and

the performance of the stock market this year, especially

with respect to low-priced issues, has been just one

more sign of growing inflationary psychology.

Fragmentary balance of payments statistics, suggesting

a deficit for the month of January, are not useful as a

measure of the outlook for the year as a whole, because

of the bunching last month of large Canadian issues

originally scheduled for placement in November and December,

besides unusually large tax and royalty payments to

However, recent estimates

Venezuela and the Middle East.

of our prospective international transactions for 1966,

made by a Governmental committee in Washington, are not

encouraging. The benefits of an anticipated $900 million

improvement in our trade surplus, together with a decline

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in direct investment, increased investment income, and

the absence of large sales of British official portfolio

securities, may well be fully offset by increases in

military and aid expenditures, in bank credit to

foreigners, and in travel expenditures. And even the

hoped-for improvement in our trade surplus seems a bit

optimistic in view of the prospect for continued rapid

expansion in the domestic economy and accompanying cost

and price pressures.

In the credit area, preliminary January figures

suggest that the pace of the advance of the credit and

liquidity indicators has moderated since December,

although the gains were still rapid. Bank loan demand

remains extremely active even at the higher interest

rates charged since early December. This latter

impression is verified by New York bankers who foresee

no let-up in loan demand. Such factors as the upward

drift of rates in the corporate bond market and the

prospective speed-up in corporate tax payments are

providing additional stimulus to loan demands, besides

the general influence of the strong business outlook.

Whereas reduced bank liquidity last year was not a

major deterrent to the granting of all reasonable loan

requests, there is now growing evidence of efforts by

the New York banks to curb loan expansion. For one

thing, I am glad to note an apparent increasing reluc

tance to finance transactions they consider more

appropriate for the bond or equity markets, especially

mergers and acquisitions.

Despite some continued uneasiness, I think there

are some signs that the tensions characterizing the

short-term financial markets in December and part of

January are gradually receding. The success of the

Treasury's refunding operation should be a constructive

influence. At the same time, however, the long bond

markets have come under increased pressure, with no

real assurance of stabilization as yet. Earlier yield

adjustments in the long area had been relatively moderate,

but the growing corporate calendar, the prospective large

asset sales by Government agencies, and the already

heavily committed position of insurance companies and

other institutional investors are major factors

currently affecting market sentiment.

Turning to policy, I am impressed by the clear

and present danger of inflation and by the fact that

present fiscal policy plans do not provide any very

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significant restraint. It is impossible to estimate as

yet whether the combination of a very high level of

credit demand and a somewhat more stringent supply will

result in a moderation of the financial expansion without

further restrictive steps. Restraint in the rate of

credit expansion seems highly desirable for purely

domestic reasons, apart from the important contribution

such a move might make to our balance of payments.

The nervous state of the money and capital

markets during the last two months of adjustment to the

higher discount rate and higher Regulation Q ceilings

has made it difficult to keep reserves under sufficient

pressure to encourage a slowing of credit expansion

without excessive rate effects. The recent large

Treasury refunding also required an especially solicitous

attitude toward the state of the money and capital markets.

Now that it is virtually completed, I would hope that net

borrowed reserves could soon be restored to a range

centering around something like $150 million, such as

prevailed for sometime before last December's discount

rate increase; and I would also hope that this would

be consistent with other money market conditions similar

to those prevailing in recent weeks. While I lean toward

moving even a little further in the direction of reduced

reserve availability, perhaps toward a target of $200 million

or more net borrowed reserves, I think this decision might

well be delayed until the next meeting, when we should

have a better idea of the effects on credit expansion of

our moves to date.

With respect to Mr. Robertson's interesting

memorandum,1/ I sympathize with his objective of more

prompt counter-cyclical influence by open market opera

tions, as well as with his goal of wider swings in net

borrowed reserves that would have the effect of diminishing

1/

Entitled "A Free Reserve Proposal," and distributed

to the Committee on January 27, 1966. A copy has

been placed in the Committee's files.

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the present public overemphasis on a given reserve

figure. However, I wonder whether we can rely on

required reserves as a valid short-run measure of the

forces of credit expansion. It seems to me that we

have a hard enough time interpreting credit and

liquidity developments on even a monthly basis, let

alone relying on an automatic reserve interpretation

on a day-to-day basis.

Insofar as a net borrowed

reserve target is involved, I would much prefer, as

a general rule, to wait three weeks or a month until

the next meeting and then make a conscious judgment

that the target should be higher, lower, or unchanged.

The draft directive as proposed by the staff 1/ is

entirely satisfactory.

One possibility which the Board might wish to

consider is an increase in margin requirements, in the

light of the sharp rise in customer credit over the

last five months, and particularly in December.

Mr. Francis reported that economic activity in the Eighth

District had continued to advance during the fall and early winter,

but the growth rate probably had not equaled the rapid national

increase.

Employment in the District had risen since August, though

at less than the national rate.

Unemployment had declined in most

of the area's major labor markets.

In only two of the eight

metropolitan areas of the District was the latest seasonally

adjusted unemployment rate as much as 3 per cent.

One of the areas

was Fort Smith, Arkansas, where the Fort Chaffee military installa

tion was closed.

1/

Appended to these minutes as Attachment A.

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McDonnell Aircraft, the region's largest employer, had

received Defense Department contracts to step up production of the

Phantom fighter plane, Mr. Francis said.

In addition, the company

was beginning to build versions of the Phantom for the British.

The company planned to increase its employment between now and

next fall by 4,000, to about 40,000.

Other major companies in

the District which had recently received contracts for military

goods included Wagner Electric, General Steel Industries, Universal

Match Corporation, and Olin Mathieson Chemical Corporation.

Each

of those companies planned to increase its employment in the near

future.

Also, RCA commenced construction in December on a TV

receiver manufacturing plant in the Memphis area; the plant was

expected ultimately to employ about 7,500.

Since August, Mr. Francis continued, manufacturing output

in the District had risen moderately, following a rapid expansion

in late 1964 and early 1965.

Spending, as indicated by the volume

of bank debits, had risen at a 12 per cent annual rate in the same

period.

Personal income, reflecting the higher level of employment

and greater activity, had been about 9 per cent higher in recent

months than it was a year earlier.

Gross farm receipts were up

3 per cent from the fourth quarter 1964 to the fourth quarter 1965.

Returns from livestock jumped considerably, but were partially offset

by reduced crop receipts.

For the year 1965, income per farm was up

about 5 per cent on both a gross and a net basis.

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Total credit at large District'banks had risen moderately

since August, Mr. Francis said.

Increases in total loans,

particularly on real estate and to consumers, more than offset

net sales of securities.

Business loans had risen less than

seasonally since August, following an unusually sharp rise last

spring.

Both demand and time deposits had gone up.

Nevertheless,

banks had been pinched for funds, and borrowings--both from the

Federal Reserve Bank and from others--had been at higher average

levels in the past three months than at any other time in over

five years.

In summary, Mr. Francis observed, economic activity

appeared to be vigorous in the District.

He based that conclusion

on both the statistics and the optimism of those with whom he

From a review of the national data, it appeared that

had talked.

the national scene was as strong or stronger than that of the

District.

Aggregate demand might be excessive, as evidenced by

price rises, labor shortages, and the increased concern about

guideposts.

Mr. Francis said that he preferred not to make detailed

comments on policy at this, his first, Committee meeting.

However, with most measures of the banking system--bank reserves,

loans, bank credit, time deposits, demand deposits, and moneyexpanding rapidly during the past two months, with the current

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stimulative fiscal situation, and with the strong upward momentum

in the economy, it would appear that insofar as the Committee's

responsibility to the Treasury permitted some firming in monetary

policy was indicated.

Mr. Patterson reported that economic developments in the

Sixth District continued to provide a base for strong credit

demands, and the latest banking figures confirmed that conclusion.

Loans at banks at leading cities in the District declined less in

January this year than in 1965.

District bankers were looking

forward to continued loan expansion during 1966 although there

were differences of opinion about its strength.

A new round in the competition for time deposits might

possibly be developing, Mr. Patterson said.

Until recently,

most bankers had adopted a "wait-and-see" attitude with respect

to their rates on time deposits, and any increases in rates that

were made were modest.

Two weeks ago one of the large Atlanta

banks launched an extensive advertising campaign, offering to

pay 4-3/4 per cent on savings certificates for as short a time

as 90 days and for as small amounts as $25.

A newly opened

nonmember bank in New Orleans was offering 5 per cent on savings

certificates held for one year in amounts of $25 and over.

So

far, no reaction had been noted from the other banks or savings

institutions.

Negotiable certificates of deposit declined during

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January at practically all the banks in leading Sixth District

cities, the major exception being a bank that had aggressively

competed on the basis of rates.

For some time, Mr. Patterson observed, the Committee had

been hoping that the dust would settle so that it could identify

the forces that were responsible for the rate and loan behavior

following the discount rate changes.

to be very persistent.

That cloud of dust seemed

Even now, the Committee could not sort

out clearly the technical, expectational, and real factors, and

that seemed also to be the case for persons outside the System.

Nevertheless, more and more of them were commenting on the

apparently inconsistent behavior of rates and reserves.

As was

usual, they had been advising the System that something ought to

be done.

But, contrary to most occasions, they had not told the

System how to go about controlling the expansion of reserves and

the money supply without pushing up rates.

When a dust cloud persisted for as long as this one had,

Mr. Patterson continued, one was tempted to just rush in to do

something, and hope for the best.

On the other hand, if the

Committee waited for the dust to settle completely, it might

find that it had permitted undesirable developments that could

not be changed after visibility had improved.

There was,

however, the possibility of adopting a policy that gently probed

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toward the desired goal with the understanding that that course

of action might have to be altered at any time.

Mr. Patterson commented that during recent weeks the

Committee's operations had been primarily directed toward keeping

the short-term Treasury bill rate within bounds, at the same time

hoping that implementing that policy would not create too large a

volume of reserves.

It seemed appropriate after the Treasury

refunding was completed to reverse the emphasis and to carry out

a probing operation aimed at getting a tighter control of reserves.

He did not think that the Committee should delay that type of

action until after the short-term bill rate fell below the discount

rate.

Possibly some tightening of member bank reserve positions

would result in a further increase in the bill rate, Mr. Patterson

said.

However, he was not sure that that would be the case.

To

the extent that the present bill rate structure resulted from a

maldistribution of reserves and special credit demands, pressures

on the short end of the market might be reduced in the future.

But

even the Treasury bill rate's remaining above the discount rate

would not inevitably call for an immediate further increase in the

discount rate as had sometimes been suggested.

Member banks at

present showed no disposition to take advantage of the differential

between the bill and the discount rates.

Should that develop, of

course, the System's policy would have to be reconsidered.

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The Committee could not begin the probing operation until

after the Treasury refunding program had been completed in mid

February, Mr. Patterson said.

After that, he would like to see

System operations so conducted as to reduce the availability of

reserves, by moving toward a net borrowed reserve figure of around

$200 million, as suggested by Mr. Hayes.

Mr. Bopp remarked that, with the President's budget

message having been made public, it appeared clearer than ever to

him that the economy was poised to move strongly ahead in coming

months and that price pressures were likely to mount and become

more pervasive.

The strength of demand showed up in the trend of

fixed investment, the fast pace of inventory accumulation,

burgeoning new orders and unfilled orders for durable goods, and

an operating rate in the manufacturing sector now within a hair's

breadth of the preferred rate.

Earlier, Mr. Bopp said, when the margin of unutilized

resources was larger, it had seemed reasonable to him to wait

for actual price increases before taking additional restrictive

action.

The margin of unutilized resources was much narrower

now and, although industrial prices had been fairly quiet recently,

the stage was set for major increases in prices.

In that

environment, such increases could lead to speculative inventory

building and other anticipatory actions, creating upward pressures

which fed on themselves.

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Also, in that kind of environment uncertainties over the

Federal budget became more crucial.

As Mr. Bopp saw it, there

were four principal areas of uncertainty, and all of them appeared

to veer in an expansionary direction.

spending:

First, with respect to

Viet Nam needs were unpredictable and spending estimates

were very possibly on the conservative side.

Moreover, it was

uncertain whether and to what extent Congress would be successful

in cutting domestic spending.

Second, on timing:

If, as some

forecasted, the largest expansion in Government spending occurred

in the second half of fiscal 1966 and early in fiscal 1967, such

a "bunching up" of expenditures could prove quite stimulative

even if total spending did not exceed the amount budgeted by the

President.

Third, on revenues:

While a burgeoning economy might

well generate the increased receipts envisaged by the President,

and while his proposed tax changes probably would be passed, the

question still remained of whether and to what extent the tax

measures would restrain private spending during the current

calendar year.

Finally, as to additional fiscal restraint:

Even if the President should move very quickly to recommend added

taxes or reduced spending in the event of further inflationary

pressures, those recommendations would have to be appraised and

acted upon by Congress.

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the many uncertainties in the fiscal outlook, it seemed to

Mr. Bopp that action should be taken to damp current rates of

flow of money and credit.

However, with the Treasury refunding

in progress, there was a question of whether to wait until the

next meeting of the Committee before imposing additional restraint.

He would be inclined to move initially to tighten reserve

availability as soon after February 15 as the Manager judged was

appropriate in view of the refunding.

The move, however, should be a moderate and gradual one,

Mr. Bopp said.

It might be necessary, among other things, to

relieve some pressures on commercial banks, should they have

strong credit demands at the same time they were experiencing

trouble replacing CDs.

He would rely mainly on the discount

window to relieve any excessive pressure from those and other

sources.

The staff's draft directive appeared appropriate to

him.

Mr. Hickman remarked that the impact of fiscal policy on

the economy this year seemed to be even less predictable than

usual.

The figures for Federal spending in the national income

and "high-employment" budgets, which measured the impact of

budget policy on the economy, probably would be on the low side,

particularly in the area of defense--although the situation was

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subject to change almost on a daily basis.

Despite the general

uncertainty about the budget, it now appeared that fiscal policy

would be stimulative, at a time when aggregate demand was pressing

on the nation's capacity to produce.

Under those circumstances,

higher taxes than were now contemplated seemed indicated.

Until

such plans emerged, he thought the Committee should rely on

reduced credit availability and on tighter money.

Such a course of action was also indicated by current

developments in the economy, Mr. Hickman said.

As the staff had

pointed out in the green book, GNP in the first quarter would

probably increase by at least as much as in the fourth quarter

of last year.

Industrial production through December exceeded

the most optimistic expectations.

All major price indexes

continued to move up, with the resurgence of farm and food

prices at wholesale presaging further increases at retail.

Mr. Hickman thought recent price developments were not

surprising in view of the kinds of pressures now impinging upon

resource utilization.

The Cleveland Reserve Bank's informal

survey in late January of manufacturing firms in the Fourth

District indicated widespread manpower shortages, especially for

firms in the machinery and fabricated metals industries, where

the work week was currently ranging from 50 to 60 hours.

In some

cases, pressures were also developing on plant capacity because

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new facilities were not coming on stream rapidly enough to offset

rising order backlogs.

Moreover, several important industries in

the District emphasized limitations imposed by streched-out delivery

dates for machinery.

Many firms were already operating above

preferred utilization rates and would have difficulty handling any

further increase in orders.

The backlog of defense orders was

already large, and another surge of orders would simply intensify

problems of capacity and priorities.

On the financial front, Mr. Hickman continued, increases

in nonborrowed reserves, money supply, and time deposits apparently

had slowed to a less frenetic pace in recent weeks.

Nevertheless,

over-all rates of increase in those variables since the discount

rate action had been excessive and inconsistent with his view of

appropriate monetary policy.

Because of the massive Treasury refunding, Mr. Hickman said,

there was little that the Committee could do now of a constructive

nature, particularly in view of the unsettled state of the bond

market and the probable churning in the after-market.

Nevertheless,

some moderate corrective action might be possible later this month,

if the bond market settled down.

In the past four weeks, the net

reserve position of banks had averaged slightly above zero, and

bank borrowings had averaged about $400 million, which created

slightly easier conditions than Mr. Hickman thought the Committee

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had intended, even during a period of even keel.

He hoped that it

would soon be possible for the Manager to move net reserve positions

back to levels prevailing before the last discount action.

Once the

Treasury refunding was out of the way, he would prefer a still deeper

level of net borrowed reserves and correspondingly higher bank

borrowings.

For reasons already indicated, Mr. Hickman did not agree with

the second paragraph of the staff's draft directive.

It seemed to

him that it was time for the Committee now to begin to reduce credit

availability, which would mean higher interest rates rather than

stable rates, given the current strength of loan demand.

That approach

would involve less tampering with the economy than would any system

of credit rationing based on vague distinctions as to what are and

are not productive uses of credit.

Mr. Maisel thought that if the Committee examined the Economic

Report it could derive certain assumptions as to where monetary policy

was expected to aid stabilization in the current situation.

Monetary

policy was expected to aid in containing the expansion of fixed

investment and to cut back on inventory investment.

In addition,

it appeared as if a decrease in the net export balance would aid

the fight against inflation.

With respect to the latter point, Mr. Maisel thought the

Committee should give more consideration to the question of whether

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it now had a contradiction in the directive.

Could it expect mon

etary policy to help in restraining inflationary pressures and at

the same time aid in achieving balance in the country's international

payments?

If the Committee was to fight inflation, shouldn't the

net export balance decrease?

Could it expect the current account

to carry as much foreign investment as it had in the past?

Mr. Maisel agreed with the previous statements around the

table that tighter fiscal policy at this time might be proper.

He

would doubt, however, that tighter fiscal policy would be tried

until monetary policy had had its chance to decrease demand.

As

a result he believed that the rate of expansion of total credit

had to be cut back at least to where it was in the Committee's

previous policy period.

The Desk should put more emphasis on the rate of expansion

of nonborrowed reserves, Mr. Maisel said.

That rate of expansion

should be reduced to prior levels, even if that caused somewhat

higher interest rates.

The proposal in Mr. Robertson's memorandum

might be a way of achieving the cut in the expansion of nonborrowed

reserves and, therefore, it should go into effect as soon as possible.

He thought the Committee also should be concerned with the question

of how much of market action and disturbances resulted from rumors

without proper knowledge of what the System was attempting to do.

Specificially, he asked whether the market would operate better if

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it knew that the Federal Reserve was willing to operate at a

much higher level of borrowed reserves without resorting to

another increase in the discount rate.

Mr. Daane said he confessed to being a bit gloomy about

the outlook after listening to, and agreeing with, the people

who had spoken thus far.

He noted particularly Mr. Holland's

expectation of a continued price upcreep; the statement by

Mr. Hersey, whose pessimism regarding the balance of payments

was, he thought, well founded; and the excellent analytical

case Mr. Koch had made for further fiscal restraint, about which

Mr. Daane was not sanguine at this point.

While he shared

Mr. Koch's distaste for higher interest rates he thought that,

were it not for the necessity of maintaining an even keel during

the current large Treasury financing, the Committee should be

trying to restore a somewhat deeper level of net borrowed

reserves.

He would favor such a course as soon as it was

feasible and to the extent that it could be accomplished without

racheting interest rates upward.

Because he felt somewhat

skittish on the latter score, he would go along with a target

of $150 million for net borrowed reserves; otherwise he would

have been inclined to accept a somewhat deeper target.

staff's draft directive appeared appropriate to him.

The

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Mr. Daane was sympathetic with the goals of Mr. Robertson's

memorandum.

However, he recalled the occasion, a number of years

ago, when he had tried to disabuse the Committee of the view that

free reserves were an appropriate guide for policy, and had

received a letter from Woodlief Thomas saying that free reserves

were the only serviceable policy benchmark available to the

Committee.

His own views had come full circle.

He shared

Mr. Robertson's opinion that the free reserve figures should not

be closely pinpointed, and he would like to see the market rely

less on those figures as indicators of policy--as he believed it

was already doing.

He was skeptical, however, that the Committee

could abandon free reserve figures for target purposes; and he

was even more skeptical that it could use required reserves as

a policy guide in the manner Mr. Robertson had suggested.

While

he shared all of Mr. Robertson's reservations about free reserves,

he thought they still were the most useful benchmark to indicate

the nature of the thinking around the table.

Recently, the net

borrowed reserve figures had been showing relatively wide

fluctuations so, in effect, the Committee was accomplishing one

of Mr. Robertson's objectives.

In Mr. Daane's judgment those

wider swings were appropriate; but he hoped that the Committee

would not try to put greater emphasis on aggregate magnitudes

and quantities in its instructions to the Desk.

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Mr. Mitchell remarked that many of those speaking today,

including the staff, seemed to be saying that there was something

wrong with the budget submitted to Congress by the Administration.

He did not think it really needed defense--and yet, perhaps, some

thing should be said in its favor.

In his judgment the budget

represented a plan that encompassed the possibilities of both

peace and war; it straddled that question, and necessarily so.

What was the Committee's role when confronted with that

type of budget?

Mr. Mitchell thought the answer lay in the

Committee's flexibility to fill in during the interim.

The

Committee prided itself on its flexibility but, at the same time,

it could not pinpoint the effects of its actions because it did

not have the necessary selective controls.

If it were able,

the Committee might well be trying to do something about the

inventory situation, which in his judgment was an element not

of strength in the economy but of great weakness.

The Committee did have controls over the banking system,

Mr. Mitchell said, through which it could put some pressure on

bank reserves, although not without some interest rate effects.

Another step could be taken immediately--to advise banks coming

to the discount window to repay their borrowings more quickly

and to adjust their liquidity positions.

The System attempted

to discourage continuous borrowing under the terms of Regulation A,

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but there was no hard and fast rule as'to what "continuous

borrowing" was, and banks were able to maintain an illiquid

position by shifting between the window and the Federal funds

market.

System discount officers could be of some help in

contributing to the Committee's over-all objective of

restraining borrowing.

As to policy, Mr. Mitchell said he agreed that at this

point the Committee should not interfere with the Treasury

financing.

However, he favored moving toward greater firmness

as soon as the Manager judged that the financing was no longer

an important consideration; and increasing the degree of firmness

over time if present circumstances persisted.

As long as there

was a belief that the country faced developments such as were

associated with the Korean war, such a policy would be desirable

to help reduce inflamed expectations.

Mr. Shepardson commented that all of the opinions

expressed thus far today seemed to be consistent with the state

ment in the first paragraph of the staff's draft directive that

the economy was expanding vigorously.

Pressures seemed to be

building in almost every facet of the economy, and developments

since the Budget Message suggested that Federal expenditures

would be higher than estimated in that document, implying still

greater pressures ahead.

It was important that efforts be made

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by any available means to keep the pressures from mounting and,

accordingly, there was merit in the idea of fiscal restraint to

curb demand.

prospect.

But such restraint did not seem to be in immediate

In his opinion the Committee should be exerting more

restraint; it should be supporting the December discount rate

increase by acting to reduce reserve availability.

Recently, Mr. Shepardson said, he had been studying the

possibilities of developing a better target for operations than

free or net borrowed reserve targets.

As everyone knew, there had

been periods when the Committee had maintained negative reserve

targets but had not achieved its objectives for bank credit because

of rising credit demands.

He had discussed the possibility of

using some other measure, such as total reserves, with members

of the staff, but thus far had not found a satisfactory approach.

For lack of a better suggestion at this time, he recommended

working back toward the level of net borrowed reserves that had

prevailed before the discount rate action, and perhaps to higher

level.

He recognized the Treasury financing situation but, if

he correctly interpreted the statements made today on that

subject, the financing had been generally successful and the

problem of digestion of the new issues was a relatively small

one.

Moreover, the need for maintaining an even keel would

become progressively less over the coming period.

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With those circumstances in mind, Mr. Shepardson said,

he would change the second paragraph of the draft directive to

read:

"In light of the successful Treasury financing, System

open market operations until the next meeting of the Committee

shall be conducted with a view to moving toward somewhat firmer

conditions in the money market."

With such an instruction, he

would expect the level of net borrowed reserves to be moved

toward the $200 million level--not immediately, but before the

next meeting of the Committee.

Mr. Mitchell suggested that the Manager indicate how long

he thought even keel conditions should be maintained.

Mr. Holmes replied that in his opinion it certainly would

be desirable to maintain an even keel through the payment date,

February 15.

As to the subsequent period, while he could not be

certain, it appeared that even keel considerations were likely

to be less important than usual at that stage of a refunding.

As he had noted, the underwriters' positions in the new issues

were rather minimal and it was conceivable that they would be

even more minimal a week from now.

He did see one problem with

Mr. Shepardson's proposal for the directive, connected with the

description of the Treasury financing as "successful."

Certainly

it had been successful in achieving the objective of extending

the average maturity of the debt.

From the point of view of

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market developments, however, it had been somewhat less success

ful; it was quite unusual to see the price of a new security

move down to par at this point.

Mr. Shepardson agreed that there might be some problem

with the word "successful," but it was the best word he could

find.

He thought it definitely was desirable to start moving

toward deeper net borrowed reserves; since the distribution of

the new securities already was fairly well accomplished, it

would be unfortunate, in his judgment, to wait three weeks before

doing so.

The objective at first might be to restore the earlier

target level of $150 million net borrowed reserves.

To his

recollection the Committee had not changed that target--the

figures had slipped away in the course of recent developmentsand its restoration could be considered to be consistent with

maintaining an even keel.

As he had indicated, however, he

favored going a little further than that before the next

meeting.

Mr. Daane suggested that Mr. Shepardson's objective might

be accomplished by having the directive call for moving toward

firmer conditions "as soon as the current Treasury financing

permits."

Mr. Young then proposed the following language:

"In

the light of the imminent conclusion of the current Treasury

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financing, System open market operations until the next meeting

of the Committee shall be conducted with a view to maintaining

in the first part of the period about the same conditions in

the money market as have prevailed in recent weeks, and in the

latter part of the period moving toward firmer conditions."

Mr. Daane remarked he could live with that language but

it seemed a little cumbersome.

He would prefer a formulation

along the lines of his own suggestion.

In response to a question by Chairman Martin, Mr. Holmes

said the intent of the members of the Committee who had spoken

thus far was clear; they favored moving to firmer conditions

after the Treasury financing.

The economic go-around then resumed with the following

statement by Mr. Robertson:

The round-up of evidence suggests that a strong

business advance is still under way. With demands

already beginning to press hard upon our narrow

remaining margin of available resources, this

situation possesses all the ingredients for an

outbreak of an inflationary public psychology. The

latest readings on the price indexes are up somewhat,

even though chiefly because of higher agricultural

prices. Other signs of a possible developing ebullient

attitude are exemplified by the apparent inclination

of businesses to commence some hoarding of both

materials and labor, and--in some cases--to borrow

now before interest rates rise further and lendable

funds become harder to locate. There also is the

possibility that Viet Nam developments will do more

to aggravate than to calm these inflationary expecta

tions in the weeks and months ahead.

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This is the kind of situation in which we must be

alert to the signs of an inflationary outbreak and be

prepared to adopt a firm counter-inflationary stand by

a wise combination of fiscal and monetary policy. We

have the new budget figures now, even though it is

generally recognized that the visissitudes of the war

effort render the figures more than ordinarily uncertain.

While the analysts are still arguing over the fine

points of the budget's impact, I am inclined to regard

it as just a shade more stimulative than in the second

half of 1965. The additional money-raising actions of

the Government may be almost but not quite enough to

offset the expansive effect of the step-up in Federal

spending. But no matter how you shade it--either a

little more stimulative or about the same--the Federal

budget will do little, if anything, to help restrain

any upthrust of private demands. This means that

monetary policy must bear the brunt of dampening

excessive demands if they actually develop.

We are now in a period of "even keel" that

probably has to stretch over a good part of the time

between now and the next meeting of the Committee,

although the relatively smaller dealer awards of the

new 5's suggest that we might not have to hold very

much beyond payment date. Nevertheless, I would agree

that any significant further firming in our policy

must wait until at least the March 1 meeting.

In the interim, however, there are two operational

considerations we could have in mind that might make

our next policy change easier to accomplish. One is

to define our current "even keel" with the same

qualifications the Manager attached to the term three

weeks ago, namely, that market responses to basic

military, economic, and budgeting developments should

only be moderated and not completely offset. The

second adaptation I would suggest is to permit a

somewhat greater range of movement in net borrowed

reserves, along the lines of the memorandum I circulated

to the Committee ten days ago. I will not take the

time to reiterate here all the arguments put forth in

that document, but will simply suggest that net

borrowed reserves be centered on $100 million, but

permitted to range between $0 and $200 million as my

memorandum suggests. That would mean dropping toward

$200 million if required reserves are larger than

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expected, and rising toward zero if credit demands are

less than expected. This would not do violence to the

"even keel" principle but would give us a better basis

for maneuver come the first of March.

With this interpretation, I would be willing to

vote in favor of the draft current directive distributed

by the staff.

Mr. Robertson added that he also would concur in a revision

of the directive such as had been suggested, calling for firming

after the payment date.

He was grateful for the sympathetic

comments made with respect to his memorandum, and he would simply

note that he hoped further consideration would eliminate skepticism.

Since the members were aware of the need to get away from fixed

targets he would suggest that the staffs of the Board and the

Reserve Banks be requested to give consideration to the problem;

if his suggestion was not the best, the staff might be able to

offer a better suggestion.

Mr. Hickman commented that the Committee might want to

plan on discussing Mr. Robertson's proposal in depth, perhaps at

a time several months from now.

Chairman Martin agreed that the staff should consider the

subject and that at some time the Committee might hold a discussion

not only of Mr. Robertson's paper but of any others that were

prepared.

It would be desirable, he thought, for other members

who were so inclined to present papers to the Committee.

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Mr. Wayne then reported on Fifth District business

conditions, noting that they continued to follow a strong upward

course.

December increases in nonfarm employment and factory

man-hours were even stronger in the District than in the nation

as a whole.

Manufacturers reported that they felt the pinch of

tight labor markets in the higher costs incurred to find and train

the workers needed to meet existing commitments.

Furniture

producers complained of the limited supply and rising cost of

labor, and some were unable to promise deliveries of popular

lines in less than four months.

The textile industry was beset

by other problems in addition to labor shortages.

Leaders of

the industry said they could meet Defense Department needs only

by reducing production and delaying deliveries to civilian

customers in some product lines.

They felt, however, that the

resulting upward pressure on prices could be controlled by their

determination to hold the line.

Textilemen were also concerned

lest domestic shortages lead to increased imports, a development

that would concern the Committee as well because of its implica

tions for the balance of payments.

On the national scene, Mr. Wayne continued, the long

sustained business expansion showed increasingly disturbing signs

of becoming a classical boom.

Gains in business activity in

December were outstandingly broad and strong and there were no signs

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of slackening in January.

Pervasive upward pressure on prices

continued, with wholesale prices rising by 1 per cent from October

to December and by 3.4 per cent for the year.

Labor markets were

progressively tighter, and optimal rates of capacity utilization

had been passed in a number of industries.

Order backlogs

continued to grow steadily, with an especially large rise in

December.

Unfilled orders for durable goods had risen every

month for two years, but they rose about as much in the last

four months of 1965 as in the first eight months of the year.

Business generally seemed under growing pressure to step up

investment in both plant and inventories.

Business expectations

were increasingly buoyant and credit demands continued unusually

heavy despite sharply higher interest rates.

The budget

presented two weeks ago had apparently made no contribution

toward reducing inflationary sentiments or settling the money

and capital markets.

Against that background of the economy's exuberant

advance, Mr. Wayne said, the growth of reserves, bank credit,

and the money supply in recent weeks had not been consistent

with the rationale of the policy change made in December.

From

December 29 to January 26 weekly reporting banks showed smaller

declines than in comparable periods of the previous two years in

investments, total bank credit, demand deposits, and total

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reserves.

The money supply apparently grew more in January than

was normal for the month.

He was aware that it had been necessary

for the Committee to make a strong effort to provide stability

and order in credit markets and that the recent rapid growth

rates in money and credit had been a by-product of that effort.

But if the Committee was not to negate the December action, it

must now move to slow the growth of reserves, credit, and the

money stock.

The low level of bank borrowing in the past three

weeks suggested that the Committee might have been supplying

reserves somewhat more freely than might be consistent with the

December rate action.

Credit demands had increased greatly in the past two

months, Mr. Wayne observed, and the sharp rate increases over the

period clearly had not exerted any appreciable restraint on

credit and money growth.

In the past ten days those demands had

extended to the long end of the capital market and, along with

military developments and the Treasury refunding, had raised

The

yields on long-term Governments by as much as ten points.

heavier demand appeared to be associated in part with expectational

factors that could pose a progressively more serious problem unless

it was made clear that prompt and effective action would be

taken to contain the boom which seemed to be developing.

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An unequivocal move toward a lower level of reserve

availability seemed to Mr. Wayne to be necessary and also

consistent with recent Administration evaluations of the situation,

especially those of Secretary Fowler last week.

Such a move

manifestly involved risks, as a sudden turnabout in the market's

assessment of the policy posture could produce serious market

disorders.

The increased reliance of bankers on the money

market also could contribute to an over-reaction of money market

rates to diminished reserve availability.

Nonetheless, he was

convinced that those risks would have to be assumed at some early

stage if monetary policy was to make its proper contribution

toward restraint.

He would favor a move toward a lower level of

reserve availability, and adoption of a directive which would

contemplate that before the next meeting of the Committee.

Mr. Clay remarked that once again the Committee was faced

with a Treasury financing that tended to dominate policy considera

tions for the interval between meetings.

It was essential,

nevertheless, to evaluate the economic and financial situation

apart from Treasury financing.

So far as economic activity was

concerned, the statistical measurements continued their upward

revisions both as to what the economy had been doing and what it

was doing now, and indeed as to what it probably would do.

Accordingly, the

relationship between resource availability and

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prices became of more crucial importance month by month.

That

was apparent also in the Tenth District where economic growth

had been much slower than in the nation.

Nevertheless, there was

a growing scarcity of skilled workers in the region, with up

grading and salary adjustments becoming more noticeable.

As a

consequence, many firms were conducting training programs for

production workers, and also were endeavoring to attract workers

from outlying communities and rural areas.

Looking beyond the immediate interval between meetings,

Mr. Clay continued, consideration would need to be given to the

possible application of further monetary restraint.

That view

was underscored by the fact that the Federal budget appeared to

carry expansionary implications for the economy, even if Federal

outlays were confined to the budget projections.

What should be

involved in such a policy change would be difficult to perceive,

however.

A judgment would need to be made as to the rate at

which the economy's accelerating credit demands could be met

without price inflationary developments.

In making provision

for the growth of the credit base, the changing mix of demand and

time deposits would have to be taken into account.

The problem

would be further complicated by the marked movement of interest

rates that had taken place since the monetary policy actions of

early December and the apparent sensitivity of interest rates to

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further increase under current conditions, so that only limited

restrictions on reserve availability might prove to be compatible

with the current discount rate.

As he had already indicated, Mr. Clay said, even keel

considerations would need to prevail in the period ahead because

of the Treasury financing.

The draft economic policy directive

appeared satisfactory to him.

Mr. Scanlon observed that developments in January in the

Seventh District provided further confirmation that the business

upswing was continuing.

Most District labor markets continued to

tighten, backlogs of unfilled orders continued to rise, delivery

schedules were lengthening, orders were being placed earlier, and

reports of higher prices paid for components and raw materials

were heard more frequently.

Retail sales remained strong.

Debits

to demand deposits at District member banks were up 17 per cent

from a year earlier in December, compared to a 12 per cent gain

from 1964 for the year 1965 as a whole.

Mr. Scanlon now saw some evidence that the domestic capital

spending boom might have an adverse effect upon the balance of pay

ments in 1966 while contributing to domestic inflationary pressures.

Machine tool orders placed by domestic users in the fourth quarter

rose sharply from the year-earlier level while foreign orders,

discouraged by lengthening lead times, were down substantially.

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After allowance for seasonal forces, credit demands still

appeared very strong, Mr. Scanlon continued.

Loan liquidation in

January was relatively larger in the District than in the nation

as a whole, but to a large extent that reflected pay-downsespecially by machinery and other hard goods manufacturers--on

the very large borrowings over the December tax and dividend

period.

He had seen no indication of any diminution in the

underlying strength of credit demands.

Despite the seasonal

reduction in loan volume, the major Chicago banks had moved to a

deeper deficit position over the past month as their holdings

of Governments rose and deposits declined.

Like others, Mr. Scanlon said, he was pleased to receive

Mr. Robertson's memorandum of January 27, since he thought it

desirable that the Committee give further consideration to the

form and content of its directive.

He would not take time today

to indicate the points on which he agreed or disagreed, but would

merely state that Mr. Robertson had given the Committee something

to work from, and that the Committee should pursue and not dismiss

the matter.

As to the current situation, Mr. Scanlon remarked, System

policy appeared to be lending support to the rising pace of business

activity.

He believed that the System should undertake to moderate

further the rapid pace of monetary expansion as soon after the

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current Treasury financing as was feasible in the judgment of the

Manager.

He would concur in any directive that so specified.

Mr. Galusha reported that the Ninth District continued to

do exceedingly well economically.

As noted in the green book, it

was benefiting especially from higher farm prices.

District cash

farm income reached an all-time high in the fourth quarter of

1965; the quarterly total was up a full 10 per cent from a year

ago.

And of course the outlook was bright--for farmers, if not

consumers.

Indeed, the recent and prospective behavior of farm

prices might well seriously affect the future course of money

wages, as Mr. Holland had observed.

There appeared to be nothing

in the District's agricultural situation to suggest that prices

to consumers would break at all in the next twelve months.

Mr. Galusha noted that the Reserve Bank's examination

reports for 1965 recently had been analyzed.

Of 123 banks, 19

were eliminated because they consistently had low loan volumes

and seldom had any criticized loans.

The remainder fell into

two groups--the consistent problem banks, numbering ten in all,

and the remaining 94, comprising the great majority.

The latter

group had increased their loan ratios slightly--from 48 per cent

in both 1963 and 1964 to 50 per cent in 1965.

Their classified

loans had dropped from 3.2 per cent in 1963 to 2.5 per cent in

1964 and then to 2.2 per cent in 1965.

The conclusion might be

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drawn that the strong loan demand in the period had enabled the

banks with reasonably good management to upgrade the quality of

their loan portfolios.

slightly.

Conversely, the problem banks had slipped

Classified ratios for them rose to 7.7 per cent in

1965, from 6.8 per cent in 1963 and 4.8 per cent in 1964.

Mr. Galusha said that he would omit the other comments he

had prepared on District developments because they were largely

reiterative of statements already made.

As to open market policy,

an even keel seemed to be indicated, at least for the next week

and possibly beyond.

He would favor holding money market conditions

unchanged for the whole period until the Committee's next meeting;

in his judgment it would be unwise to decide today on a change in

policy that could not be put into effect until very near the time

of the next meeting.

Mr. Galusha added that he was unhappy about phrases like

"holding money market conditions unchanged," or "maintaining about

the same conditions in the money market," because those phrases

connoted a qualitative and quantitative appraisal that had been

and would continue to be illusory.

He hoped the day would soon

come when the Committee could take positive action to curb

the growth of credit and inflation.

sharply

As to the latter, the signs

were showing up in the business community of the Ninth District

with distressing and alarming frequency.

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Mr. Galusha concluded with an expression of gratitude to

Mr. Holland for his letter of January 18, 1966, explaining the

proposal he made at the preceding meeting.1/

In his judgment both

Mr. Holland's proposal and that made by Mr. Robertson warranted the

Committee's fullest consideration; they went to the heart of the

Committee's operating procedure.

Mr. Swan reported that business conditions in the Twelfth

District continued to show considerable strength.

Despite reports

of tight labor markets, the aerospece industries reported a

surprisingly large employment gain in December.

They added almost

9,000 employees in that month, bringing their total increase since

the low of March 1965 to 48,000.

Their employment level in

December was 594,000, still about 40,000 below the peak of

December 1962.

As elsewhere, Mr. Swan said, in the Twelfth District banks

seemed to be facing a strong loan demand.

They had been substantial

buyers of Federal funds throughout January and early February.

At

weekly reporting banks savings deposits declined in January and

negotiable CDs and other time deposits rose considerably less than

a year ago.

Still, at the moment at least, there was much less

1/ Copies of this letter, addressed to Mr. Galusha, were sent to

all members of the Committee and a copy has been placed in the

Committee's files.

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concern than some weeks ago about the possibilities of excessive

rates or destructive competition in seeking deposits of individuals

through the use of savings certificates in various forms.

That

situation seemed to have settled down somewhat.

Mr. Swan agreed with what had been said about the strength

of the business and financial situation generally and about the

desirability of moving toward a more restrictive credit policy.

He favored slowing somewhat the rate at which reserves were being

provided, and setting a somewhat deeper net borrowed reserves

figure as the short-run target of operations after the payment

date for the Treasury refunding.

His only qualification was that

the implications of the refunding for policy might have been

understated somewhat in the discussion thus far.

Despite the small

participation of dealers, there was a question in his mind as to

how firmly some of the new securities were held.

Thus, while he

would favor moving in the direction of a somewhat tighter policy

after the payment date, he hoped the Manager was right in thinking

that the market might already have discounted such a step.

The

move would have to be cautious and probing, given the sensitivity

of the market and the price behavior of the new securities thus

far.

He agreed with those who questioned whether the Committee

could, in fact, make a significant move before its next meeting.

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-70For the directive Mr. Swan would accept either the staff's

draft or one referring to the possibility of firming.

If the

Committee favored the latter, he would much rather put it in some

such terms as "when conditions surrounding the Treasury financing

permit" than "after the payment date," or "in the latter part of

the period," because the Committee would have to rely on the

Manager's judgment of the state of the market.

Mr. Irons reported that Eleventh District economic condi

tions were strong in all of the major areas--production, employment,

unemployment, retail trade as reflected by department store

figures, and so forth.

Weather conditions had been good in the

District recently and, generally speaking, the agricultural

picture was quite favorable with respect to both production and

prices.

Much of what Mr. Galusha had said about the farm situation

in the Ninth District applied to the Eleventh District also.

On the financial side, Mr. Irons said, bank loans in all

major categories had declined in the District in the first four

weeks of the year.

Investments rose because of gains in holdings

of Governments; holdings of non-Governments were down.

Demand

deposits showed seasonal declines, and time deposits continued

to grow.

The liquidity position of banks was reflected in part

in their demand for Federal funds, which on a net basis had been

running at about $400 million for the past two weeks.

Borrowing

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from the Reserve Bank was negligible; apparently the large banks

were using non-Federal Reserve facilities and the smaller banks

in need of funds were borrowing from city correspondents.

The

situation with respect to Regulation Q had quieted down reasonably

well.

A number of bankers were negotiating rate increases when

necessary, but they were not advertising higher rates and in

general were trying to hold rates at reasonable levels.

The general expectation in the District, Mr. Irons observed,

was for continued over-all expansion, with capital expenditures

rising further.

There was an underlying concern about inflation;

people found it hard to believe that the Administration could

accomplish everything it planned domestically and in connection

with Viet Nam.

As to policy, Mr. Irons thought the point had been reached

at which the Committee should work toward a deepening of net

borrowed reserves.

It would be desirable, in his judgment, to

move as soon as possible from the average level of under $50

million of the last three weeks up to the $100-$150 million range

prevailing before the discount rate change.

Mr. Irons believed that the second paragraph of the staff's

draft directive was inconsistent with a policy decision calling

for greater firmness during the coming period; it would be

appropriate only if the decision was to maintain about the same

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conditions as in recent weeks.

He had attempted an alternative

formulation, as follows:

"After settlement of the impact of the

current Treasury financing, System open market operations until

the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted so as to

tighten further the conditions in the money market that have

prevailed in recent weeks."

He held no particular brief for

that specific wording, but he would not want to refer to specific

dates or parts of the period; such a procedure would set an

undesirable precedent.

Mr. Ellis commented that in a period when the economy of

New England was reflecting a general surge of rising activity,

there tended to be a sameness about the glowing reports from

each segment.

That fact lead him to mention just two points-

the deposit record of savings banks and the pressures on member

banks in the First District.

Deposit balances at regularly reporting mutual savings

banks continued to grow, Mr. Ellis said, but at a slower pace.

The December expansion was 0.8 per cent.

Compared with a year

ago, new deposits during December were 9 per cent higher, but

withdrawals were up 15 per cent.

The twelve-month net growth

in deposit balances narrowed to 7 per cent from growth rates

2 points higher a year ago.

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However, Mr. Ellis continued, savings deposits at the

weekly reporting member banks showed a 17 per cent year-to-year

gain, compared with 10 per cent for the U.S., and they continued

to grow in the three weeks ending January 26.

All other time

deposits registered a 27 per cent twelve-month gain, one-tenth

greater than the U.S. pattern.

Those deposit inflows, coupled

with a year-to-year increase in demand deposits of 6.5 per cent,

helped reduce loan-deposit ratios from the regional average of

74 per cent in November and December to 72.3 per cent in January.

The leading money market banks in Boston continued to

lean heavily on borrowed funds in meeting their reserve positions,

Mr. Ellis said.

Through CDs, Federal funds, short-term notes, or

borrowings from the Federal Reserve, they had borrowed an average

of 176 per cent of their required reserves during the past 20

weeks, compared with 186 per cent for the eight New York City

money market banks.

Those Boston banks were still holding to a

posture of meeting all their customers' requests--at least those

of established customers.

Mr. Ellis noted that Mr. Hersey had concluded his remarks

with a quotation from the President's Economic Report on what the

President requested of the System.

He (Mr. Ellis) had planned to

begin his remarks on monetary policy with a fuller version of the

same quotation.

On hearing Mr. Hersey, he was struck by the fact

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that the statement consisted of two parts, the first of which,

"meeting the credit needs of a vigorous and growing economy,"

reflected a point made by Mr. Koch today.

The second part,

relating to the prevention of "excessive credit flows that could

carry the pace of expansion beyond prudent speed limits," had been

cited by Mr. Hersey and reflected a point the latter had emphasized.

Retrospectively, Mr. Ellis continued, while the System's

rate action in December had usefully allowed more realistic rates

in relation to credit demands, the Committee's action in temporarily

de-emphasizing reserve targets had facilitated a sharp expansion of

reserves and credit in magnitudes that certainly strained the

concept of "prudent speed limits."

Looking ahead, Mr. Ellis said, some of the path was marked

by the economic message and the budget.

From the monetary viewpoint,

one of the most important decisions was to forego tax rate increases

in favor of accelerating tax payments.

To the extent that such

acceleration would have any restraining effect on total spending,

it had to influence the taxpayers, both individuals and corporations,

to forego spending they would otherwise have undertaken.

While

individuals might well reduce their takings by amounts roughly

equivalent to the accelerated payments, corporations might well

seek to hold to pre-established plans by borrowing funds to replace

tax-drained cash positions.

That alternative means of financing

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Federal outlays clearly threw additional burdens onto monetary

policy.

It involved an increment of borrowing in an economy

that apparently was already being stimulated by a budget more

stimulative this calendar year than last.

In sum, fiscal

restraint seemed more of a goal than a present likelihood.

Clearly, Mr. Ellis observed, the need to distribute the

new securities issued in the recent Treasury refunding suggested

no immediate shift in monetary policy.

But once the new issues

had been distributed the market would be watching closely to

identify the emerging posture of policy.

As he listened to

Mr. Holmes' report today, he got the impression that the market

was waiting for the other shoe to fall.

It appeared appropriate

to delay no longer than absolutely necessary in recovering to

at least the posture the Committee held before December, as a

basis for future moves.

Mr. Ellis thought that the most critical long-range

policy choice facing the Committee was in deciding how much

emphasis to place on alternative short-term targets of policymoney market conditions, interest rates, or reserve growth.

Experience suggested that the Committee never completely

abandoned any one of the three; but it often elevated one to

greater relative importance, and in the past few months it had

placed relatively greater emphasis on rates.

In the present

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context, he believed interest rates should not be accepted as a

principal object of policy.

Changed and changing price expectations-

from an expectation of a 2 per cent annual rate of increase to one

of perhaps 2.5 or 3 per cent--coupled with foreseeable expansion in

credit demands, suggested that the 1/2 point rise in short-term

rates since November might not represent a completed adjustment

to the new situation and outlook.

However important interest rate

objectives might properly become at some points in time, at present

they did not serve as adequate substitutes for direct attention to

the pace at which reserves were being created in relation to the

economy's need for credit expansion.

In his judgment, the Committee

should move to restore "moderated reserve growth" as a prime

target to guide the Manager's operations.

In that context, Mr. Ellis found helpful the suggestions

in both Mr. Robertson's recent memorandum and Mr. Holland's letter

to Mr. Galusha.

Both proposals started with the objective of

improving the use of the net borrowed reserves concept as a target

of policy.

However much the Committee might challenge its present

technical capacity to determine the "expected demand for required

reserves and deposits" on a weekly basis, it remained true that in

times of rising demands the Account Manager was required to seekwithin other constraints of rate trends and money market conditions--

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to meet in full all demands in excess of such expectations for

reserve expansion, in order to achieve on average a target range

of net borrowed reserves.

As one alternative, Mr. Ellis commented, Mr. Robertson

suggested that initially, at least, the Manager not meet any such

demands for required reserves when they rise at a "faster than

anticipated pace."

Instead, he would allow net borrowed reserves

to rise to the upper limit of a target range--$200 million at present,

for example.

Mr. Holland's approach would be to supply decreasing

proportions of the desired reserves when their growth exceeded

expected rates.

reserves;

Both approaches would (1) rely more on borrowed

(2) allow more fluctuation in net borrowed reserves;

(3) presumably result in somewhat greater fluctuations in bill

rates; and (4) provide quicker responses to underlying shifts of

trend.

His personal preference would be for the Holland alternative,

because it would apply to the whole range of reserve variationsnot just the amount within a preselected range--and it might

facilitate more gradual adjustment of the Committee's target.

It would avoid simply shifting attention from a target figure to

a target range.

Since the Committee obviously was not going to adopt

either of the suggested alternatives today, Mr. Ellis said, he

would urge that the Manager be directed to probe toward a deeper

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level of net borrowed reserves when the market settled down from

the current refunding.

His own choice of target would be net

borrowed reserves of $150 million, with the expectation that

variations around that target would fall within plus or minus

$50 million, as had been true on average during 1965.

The major

objective of moderating the pace of reserve growth was clearly

described in the first paragraph of the directive.

In the second

paragraph he would avoid any effort to specify subperiods, and

he favored language along the lines of that suggested by

Mr. Shepardson.

Mr. Balderston remarked that he was pleased by the

unanimity of views on policy this morning, even though the

circumstances from which it stemmed were not comforting.

The

economy was in a wartime boom and risking uncontrolled escalation

unless restraint, both monetary and fiscal, was applied without

delay.

Many of the Committee members had noted that because

plant and inventories were being built in the expectation of

enlarged demand based upon the pyramiding of war orders and

private buying, prices were tending to push steadily upward.

In short, the economy was pressing hard against its resourceshuman and other--with the over-all unemployment rate about the

same as in the expansion of 1956 and early 1957, and with the

precentage of adult men unemployed at 2.3 per cent and of married

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men at 1.8 per cent.

Farm land values continued to advance; the

national average rose 6.6 per cent in the year ending November 1

last.

There was no substitute for real restraint that bit,

especially at a time when a portion of bank credit was being

used for speculative purposes and for the promotion of such

activities as mergers, take-overs, and similar ventures.

Reflecting current ebullience, Mr. Balderston said,

January trading on the New York Stock Exchange stayed at the high

level of last fall, with common stock prices rising further.

The

volume of daily transactions during the first three weeks of

January was above the historic peak of 8.7 million shares reached

in December.

Since July 1965, net debit balances had risen $660

million; or 13-1/2 per cent, which about offset the decline in

that form of stock market credit between the November 1963 change

in margin requirements and July 1965.

Not only had margin

buying expanded but one could not help but suspect that credit

for the buying of stocks was being obtained through bank loans

and the resetting of mortgages.

There was something reminiscent

of American Founders in the exuberant reception accorded the

Manhattan Fund.

Its focus upon special situations reflected the

mood of the moment.

Mr. Balderston went on to say that two types of increased

efficiency in the use of bank credit and of the underlying

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reserves might tend to offset such braking of bank credit expansion

as the System sought to apply between last spring and the December

change in the discount rate.

Since then, availability had not

been curbed visibly, at least by the central bank.

The two

efficiencies were the increased turnover of demand deposits and

the greater reliance on Federal funds.

The turnover rates in

1965 were 12 per cent higher than in 1964 outside of New York

City and 13.7 per cent higher within it.

The second type of

efficiency that influenced reserve utilization was resort to the

Federal funds market.

In addition, the use of reserves had been

altered since earlier periods of bank credit restraint, such

as those of 1957 and 1959, by changes in the deposit mix.

Although total reserves rose last year at an annual rate of 5.2

per cent, time deposits--against which the reserves required

were only 4 per cent--rose at an annual rate of 16.3 per cent.

The mix of time and demand deposits had altered markedly since

earlier periods when restraint was called for.

That might

explain why bank credit, as reflected by total member bank

deposits, rose last year by 9.1 per cent and the money supply

by 4.8 per cent while the System was intending to apply restraint.

It was clear to Mr. Balderston that the time had come to

deepen the net borrowed reserve figure substantially as soon as

feasible after the current financing.

He would hope that well

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before the next Committee meeting the net borrowed reserve figure

would rise above $150 million, with subsequent targets substantially

larger.

When resources were being used fully, as they were now,

it was appropriate to force banks to get more of their reserves

through borrowing at the Reserve Banks.

He shared the view

expressed so generally at this meeting that there was no time

to lose; in fact, the bus might already have been missed.

Chairman Martin commented that in his judgment the System

had performed quite well over the past few months.

The Committee

should not lose sight of the fact that economic pressures had been

mounting steadily.

Various impediments to the free flow of funds

had had to be removed, and when the System took the rate actions

of December it was clear that a difficult money market operation

would be involved.

All it all, the System had come through that

operation quite well.

Now some people were beginning to say not

that the actions were wrong but that they should have gone

further.

At present, the Chairman continued, the Committee ought

to be reasonably cautious about keeping the flow of funds as

orderly as possible.

The experience with the current Treasury

refunding was typical of the uncertainties of the current period.

For a time--about the middle of last week--it appeared as if the

refunding might be a failure; but it turned out to be substantially,

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although not overwhelmingly, successful, despite the fact that the

subscription books happened to be opened on the day the President

announced the resumption of bombing of North Viet Nam.

Unfortunate

coincidences of that kind were likely to reoccur for some time to

come, and the more orderly the Committee could make any adjustments

the better it would be.

As to the directive, he would have read

the staff's draft as giving the Manager sufficient latitude to

accomplish that objective, but perhaps the language should be

made more specific.

There followed a discussion of possible alternative

wordings of the second paragraph of the directive, in the course

of which Mr. Wayne suggested instructing the Account Management

to move toward somewhat lessened reserve availability, rather than

toward firmer money market conditions.

Although he personally did

not feel strongly about the matter, the former type of instruction

would seem to reflect the sense of today's discussion better.

Mr. Wayne also suggested that the move should be called for in the

coming period "with appropriate regard for the current Treasury

financing."

A number of members concurred in Mr. Wayne's

proposals, and there was a suggestion that the reduction in

reserve availability to be sought should be described as "gradual."

Chairman Martin remarked that the present was a period

in which operations based largely on the "color, tone, and feel"

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of the market would seem appropriate, although as a rule he did

not particularly care for those terms.

Under existing circum

stances it might be difficult to achieve a gradual adjustment,

but it would be desirable to make it as gradual as possible.

He

then asked Mr. Holmes if the Committee's intentions were clear.

Mr. Holmes replied affirmatively.

As he understood it,

when considerations relating to the Treasury financing permitted,

the Committee would like to have net borrowed reserves move back

gradually to about where they were before the December discount

rate action, recognizing that the market atmosphere now was

somewhat different.

While the objective might be difficult to

reach, the desired course was clear.

He added that he would

interpret the references to the conclusion of the Treasury

financing to take into account the aftermarket.

Mr. Hickman asked whether the Manager would propose not

to initiate a change until after any churning in the market had

ended.

Mr. Holmes replied that his course would depend on

whether or not the churning was related to the refunding, as best

as he could interpret it.

If the churning appeared to be related

to other developments he would not postpone firming action.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded and by unanimous vote, the

Federal Reserve Bank of New York was

authorized and directed, until otherwise

directed by the Committee, to execute

transactions in the System Account in

accordance with the following current

economic policy directive:

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The economic and financial developments reviewed at

this meeting indicate that the domestic economy is

expanding vigorously, with prices continuing to creep

up and credit demands remaining strong. Our inter

national payments continue in deficit. In this situation,

it is the Federal Open Market Committee's policy to

resist the emergence of inflationary pressures and to

help restore reasonable equilibrium in the country's

balance of payments, by moderating the growth in the

reserve base, bank credit, and the money supply.

To implement this policy, System open market

operations until the next meeting of the Committee, with

appropriate regard for the current Treasury financing,

shall be conducted with a view toward a gradual

reduction in reserve availability.

Mr. Shepardson commented that over the past several months

some members had felt that the Committee should be moving toward

reducing the rapid rate of credit expansion.

Others had felt

that no attempt to slow the expansion should be made until certain

developments had occurred.

Those developments had come to pass;

and it seemed to him that the hesitancy to move earlier meant

that now, when everyone recognized the existence of real pressures,

the Committee might have to move less gradually than otherwise

might have been possible.

His own hope would be that since those

pressures now were definitely apparent, the Committee would not

act in too gradual a manner in meeting them.

He recognized that

the current Treasury financing had to be considered, but it would

not constitute a constraint for long.

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Mr. Mitchell agreed, except that he noted that conditions

in the money market had been disorganized during the recent period

and that the market even yet had not settled down.

Chairman Martin commented that it was desirable to get

as smooth a flow of funds in the money markets as possible so

that when an adjustment was made it would not prove disruptive.

He hoped that in carrying out today's policy decision for a

gradual move the Desk would maintain as much stability as it

could.

By the time of the next meeting the Committee would have

more information on the basis of which it could decide whether

a further policy change was indicated.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee

would be held on Tuesday, March 1, 1966, at 9:30 a.m.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

February 7, 1966

Draft Current Economic Policy Directive for Consideration by the

Federal Open Market Committee at its Meeting on February 8, 1966

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting indicate that the domestic economy is expanding vigorously,

with prices continuing to creep up and credit demands remaining

strong. Our international payments continue in deficit. In this

situation, it is the Federal Open Market Committee's policy to

resist the emergence of inflationary pressures and to help restore

reasonable equilibrium in the country's balance of payments, by

moderating the growth in the reserve base, bank credit, and the

money supply.

In light of the current Treasury financing, System

open market operations until the next meeting of the Committee

shall be conducted with a view to maintaining about the same

conditions in the money market as have prevailed in recent weeks.

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@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19660208,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1966},
  month = {Feb},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19660208},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}