fomc minutes · May 9, 1966

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington, D. C., on Tuesday, May 10, 1966, at 9:30 a.m.

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Bopp

Brimmer

Clay

Daane

Hickman

Irons

Maisel

Mitchell

Robertson

Shepardson

Messrs. Wayne, Scanlon, Francis, and Swan,

Alternate Members of the Federal Open

Market Committee

Messrs. Ellis, Patterson, and Galusha, Presidents

of the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston,

Atlanta, and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Holland, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Broida, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Molony, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Brill, Economist

Messrs. Easthurn, Garvy, Green, Koch, Mann,

Partee, Solomon, and Tow, Associate

Economists

Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open Market

Account

Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of

Governors

Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board, Board

of Governors

Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research

and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Hersey, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

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Mr. Axilrod, Associate Adviser, Division

of Research and Statistics, Board of

Governors

Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office of

the Secretary, Board of Governors

Mr. Forrestal, Senior Attorney, Legal

Division, Board of Governors

Mr. Furth, Consultant, Board of Governors

Messrs. MacDonald and Kimbrel, First Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks

of Cleveland and Atlanta, respectively

Messrs. Eisenmenger, Parthemos, Baughman,

Jones, and Craven, Vice Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston,

Richmond, Chicago, St. Louis, and

San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Deming, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Mr. Duprey, Economist, Federal Reserve Bank

of Minneapolis

Upon motion duly made and seconded,

and by unanimous vote, the minutes of the

meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee

held on April 12, 1966, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the System Open

Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market

Account and Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the period

April 12 through May 4, 1966, and a supplemental report for May 5

through 9, 1966.

Copies of these reports have been placed in the

files of the Committee.

In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. Coombs said

that a reduction of perhaps $75 or $100 million in the Treasury gold

stock probably could not be delayed much longer.

The Stabilization Fund

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had only $39 million of gold on hand and there was a prospective

order from the French approaching $90 million.

The London gold market had been quiet recently, Mr. Coombs

remarked, with the price ranging around $35.11.

The very tight

money situation prevailing in all European markets appeared to be

having pronounced effects on the gold market.

High short-term

interest rates were not only discouraging new purchases of gold but

might even be stimulating dishoarding in some volume.

A number of

European commercial banks and industrial corporations usually kept

some part of their cash in gold, and with the Light money conditions

individual concerns tended to reduce their holdings somewhat from

time to time.

The effect, of course, was not a lasting one; but

for the moment, at least, it was keeping the market under a minimum

of pressure.

There still were no signs of Russian gold sales despite

the fact that the Russians now were in process of buying a substantial

volume of wheat from Canada.

At the same time, there was no evidence

that the mainland Chinese were buying gold.

Sterling continued to be the main focal point on the exchange

markets, Mr. Coombs continued.

In April, Britain experienced a

genuine reduction in its reserves of $53 million which was reflected

in the published figures.

In addition, $150 million of short-term

central bank debt fell due at the end of the month.

That debt was

covered by borrowings of $50 million from the Bundesbank, $50 million

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from the U.S. Treasury, and $50 million from the Federal Reserve under

the standby swap line.

The borrowings from the Bundesbank and the U.S.

Treasury were virtually over-night arrangements, and had already been

paid off.

The $50 million from the Federal Reserve was on the customary

three-month basis but might be paid off before maturity.

Mr. Coombs went on to say that the initial market reactions to

the British budget announcement on May 3 were unfavorable, and there

was a risk that sterling might drop sharply.

The New York Reserve

Bank bought two million pounds for Treasury account, and that seemed

to put a floor under the price of sterling.

Subsequently another two

million were bought for Bank of England account, pushing the sterling

rate up somewhat.

Those operations seemed to have a stabilizing

effect on expectations, and bridged the few hours required for the

market to digest the real significance of the budget.

As the details

became understood--particularly with respect to the payroll tax--the

market stabilized on its own.

It was Mr. Coombs' impression that the British budget did provide

for a rather strong restrictive effect on the economy, particularly in

the first year, although there were a good many unknowns regarding the

manner in which it would be administered.

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1/ Two sentences have been deleted at this point for one of the

reasons cited in the preface. The deleted material consisted of

further comments by Mr. Coombs on British economic policies, including

a comment on attitudes of others towards the British budget.

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Elsewhere in the exchange markets, Mr. Coombs said, the mark

and guilder still remained under pressure.

Both central banks con

cerned seemed determined to resist that pressure to their full

ability, through tight money and other restrictive policies.

Neither

was making much progress in getting their Governments to take action

in the fiscal area.

strong.

The French franc and Italian lira continued

He had a feeling that the Italian surplus would gradually

disappear, and that such an event might be hastened by political

developments in Italy.

At any rate, the surplus that the Italians

had built up would prove to be a useful cushion against future

adversities.

different.

The outlook in the case of the French franc was somewhat

France's policy seemed to be geared to producing regular

and substantial monthly surpluses, and there was no indication on

their part of a willingness, such as was evidenced by other friendly

countries, to engage in swap operations or other technical operations

to cushion the impact of their surpluses.

As long as the French

continued that policy there would be attrition in the U.S. gold stock

and pressure on the U.S. generally.

Mr. Galusha asked Mr. Coombs to amplify his comments regarding

Russian purchases of wheat.

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Mr. Coombs replied that the Russians were buying wheat,

especially from Canada, as a result of the failure of the Russian

wheat crop.

The timing of the shipments was related to the opening

of the ship canals; shipments in volume began in April and were

scheduled to hit their peak in May.

Since the Russians were paying

cash, presumably there would be considerable inroads on their cash

position during that period, and they might have to replenish their

cash before long by selling gold.

As he had mentioned, however,

there still were no signs of such sales.

At the time of the previous

harvest failure the Russians had sold an amount of gold on the order

of $350 to $400 million, and it was hoped that their current purchases

would force the sale of an equivalent amount.

Of course, gold sales

would be required only if there was a net deficit in the over-all

Russian balance of payments position, and no information was available

on that subject.

In answer to a question by Mr. Ellis, Mr. Coombs said that

the Communist Chinese had bought roughly $150 million of gold in

1965.

There was no evidence of current purchases, and while they

might be buying secretly through Swiss banks, information on such

transactions ordinarily leaked out.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the System open market transactions in

foreign currencies during the period

April 12 through May 9, 1966, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

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Mr. Coombs then recommended renewal of two standby swap

arrangements that were scheduled to mature soon:

the $750

million arrangement with the Bank of England, having a term of

twelve months, and maturing on May 31, 1966; and the $100 million

arrangement with the Netherlands Bank, having a term of three

months, and maturing on June 15, 1966.

He noted that a $50

million drawing by the Bank of England was presently outstanding,

and that there were no drawings at present on the arrangement

with the Netherlands Bank,

Renewal of the two swap arrange

ments for further periods of twelve and

three months, respectively, was approved.

Mr. Coombs then noted that a so-called "third currency"

swap with the Bank for International Settlements of sterling

against Italian lira, in the amount of $50 million, had been made

on February 25, 1966, and would mature on May 25, 1966.

He

recommended renewal of that swap for another three months, noting

that it would be a first renewal.

In reply to Mr. Shepardson's question regarding the purpose

of the transaction, Mr. Coombs said that it had been a means of

clearing up swap drawings under the regular line with the Bank of

Italy.

The Account had acquired sterling on a guaranteed basis,

and it appeared desirable to make multilateral use of that sterling

by swapping it for another European currency with respect to which

the dollar was clearly under pressure.

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Mr. Shepardson noted that it was the intention of the

Committee to have any swap drawings cleared up within a relatively

limited time.

He would be concerned if the transaction in question

was a device to avoid clearing up a drawing by changing the form

of the obligation to some other currency.

Mr. Coombs replied that he did not think the Committee

should consider itself imprisoned in bilateral patterns; rather,

if the System held a strong position in one currency it should use

it to offset a deficit in another currency.

Other countries

accomplished the same result by transactions in dollars.

While

there was no single foreign currency in which the U.S. could repay

debts to any of a number of other countries, the technique of

third-currency swaps gave the System an equivalent flexibility.

That technique had been employed successfully on a number of

occasions and he considered it highly useful.

Without it, the

System would be handicapped in its foreign currency operations.

Mr. Mitchell asked whether the System had a contingent

liability on the swap, and Mr. Coombs replied that since the

sterling was guaranteed by the Bank of England the System would

not suffer any loss in the event of a devaluation of sterling.

Renewal of the sterling-lira

swap with the Bank for International

Settlements for a further period of

three months was noted without objection.

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Chairman Martin then noted that at its preceding meeting

the Committee had held a preliminary discussion of the new

foreign currency instruments that had been proposed by the

Secretariat, and of the memorandum by Mr. Baker, of the Board's

staff, reviewing System foreign currency operations in the period

1962-65.

A memorandum by Mr. Coombs, commenting on Mr. Baker's

paper, had been distributed at that meeting, and subsequently

the discussion had been continued in a memorandum by Mr. Furth

dated April 27, 1966.

Also, on April 28, 1966, the Secretariat

had distributed revised drafts of the proposed new instruments,

taking account of suggestions advanced at the April 12 meeting

of the Committee; and today a memorandum noting certain suggestions

by Mr. Mitchell for substantive revisions in the proposed new

foreign currency directive had been distributed.1/

In the

Chairman's judgment the various documents represented much useful

work, and the Committee was indebted to Mr. Maisel for his original

suggestion, at the meeting of November 23, 1965, that the staff

undertake an examination of the foreign exchange operations.

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Maisel to open the discussion.

Mr. Maisel said he agreed that the several recent papers

constituted a useful review of the System's foreign exchange

1/ Copies of the documents referred to have been placed in the

Committee's files.

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operations.

He personally had no changes to suggest in the

proposed new authorization and directive, and he was prepared

to vote to approve them in the form submitted by the staff.

He hoped the dialogue begun in the recent memorandums would

be continued; in discussions with members of the Committee and

staff he found a good deal of uncertainty with regard to the

Committee's position on some issues.

For example, the Committee

had both long-run and short-run objectives, but its foreign

currency instruments tended to be formulated in terms of the

latter and it was not clear how they were related to the longer

run objectives.

The uncertainty on that issue was evident at

several points in the staff papers.

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Mitchell to comment on

the substantive revisions in the proposed new directive that he

had suggested.

Mr. Mitchell said that his suggestions were not very

complicated.

First, he proposed that a paragraph be added at

the end of the directive for the purpose of making explicit a

position that had been implicit in the Committee's operations.

The paragraph was as follows:

5. The Committee, in authorizing the foregoing

operations, does not seek to conceal or distort the

real effects of underlying economic forces on the

currency of any country. When the magnitude or

duration of operations are presumptive evidence to

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the contrary the full extent of support shall be

made known promptly.

Secondly, Mr. Mitchell continued, he would strike the

reference to foreign official reserves in paragraph 2(A) of the

directive; in his judgment cushioning operations should be

authorized only if payments flows had potentially destabilizing

effects on U.S. official reserves.

With the deletion, the para

graph would read as follows:

A. To cushion or moderate fluctuations in the

flows of international payments, if such fluctuations

(1) are deemed to reflect transitional market unsettlement

or other temporary forces and therefore are expected to

be reversed in the foreseeable future; and (2) are deemed

to be disequilibrating or otherwise to have potentially

destabilizing effects on U.S. [strikeout]

or foreign [/strikeout]

official reserves

or on exchange markets, for example, by occasioning market

anxieties, undesirable speculative activity, or excessive

leads and lags in international payments;

Mr. Mitchell's third suggestion reflected a conclusion he

drew from Mr. Baker's memorandum; namely, that there was a risk

that operations undertaken to deal with situations originally

considered to be temporary might be permitted to persist for

undesirably long periods.

He suggested rephrasing paragraph 2(B)

of the directive as follows:

B. To temper and smooth out abrupt changes in

spot exchange rates, and to moderate forward premiums

and discounts judged to be disequilibrating. Whenever

supply or demand persits in influencing exchange rates

in one direction FOR A PERIOD OF THREE MONTHS, System

or

transactions should be modified, OR curtailed, [strikeout]

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eventually

[/strikeout]UNLESS

a

pending

discontinued

UPON REVIEW

AND reassessment OF THE SITUATION by the Committee [strikeout]of

supply

[/strikeout]

forces

demand

and

DIRECTS OTHERWISE;

In Mr. Mitchell's judgment the proposed new language for paragraph 2(B)

was consistent with the Committee's present practice.

He thought,

however, that the burden of proof that a development persisting for

more than three months was still appropriately considered temporary

should be placed on the Special Manager, and his objective was to

make that point explicit.

Finally, Mr. Mitchell said, he would amend paragraph 2(C)

by inserting "short-term" before the reference to interest rate

differentials, as follows:

C. To aid in avoiding disorderly conditions in

exchange markets. Special factors that might make for

exchange market instabilities include (1) responses to

short-run increases in international political tension,

(2) differences in phasing of international economic

activity that give rise to unusually large SHORT-TERM

interest rate differentials between major markets, and

(3) market rumors of a character likely to stimulate

speculative transactions . . .

The language of the affected clause had always been somewhat obscure

to him, Mr. Mitchell said, but if the interest rate differentials

mentioned related to long-term rates he thought the statement would

be fundamentally inconsistent with the Committee's announced

intention of dealing only with short-term fluctuations.

In response to Chairman Martin's request for comments on

Mr. Mitchell's proposed changes, Mr. Coombs noted that he had not

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yet had an opportunity to study them carefully, but could give

his initial reactions.

He though that if the proposed new

paragraph 5 was given a liberal interpretation it would not pose

a problem most of the time.

Under certain circumstances, however,

it might prove extremely restrictive.

For example, along with

the U.S. Treasury and other central banks, the System had rendered

substantial assistance in support of sterling over an extended

period, in an effort to counter strong underlying forces.

If the

proposed language had been in effect it could have been interpreted

to require making known the full extent of that support promptly.

But it had been deemed necessary to keep details of the support

secret for a time, because prompt disclosure might well have defeated

the whole purpose of the assistance given.

Similar emergencies could

arise in the future, in connection not only with sterling but with

other currencies as well, and perhaps the dollar; and the language

might be considered to call for prompt public disclosures of a type

that would be undesirable.

Accordingly, he would not recommend

adding the paragraph.

The suggestion to delete the reference to foreign official

reserves from paragraph 2(A), Mr. Coombs continued, raised a question

of principle:

were the System's arrangements with foreign central

banks intended to be reciprocal, or were they unilateral?

In his

view the arrangements would work only on a reciprocal basis; the

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System had to be willing to cooperate with its partners to the

arrangements if it was to expect cooperation from them.

As to the suggested revision of paragraph 2(B), Mr. Coombs

thought that three months often would prove to be a rather short

period in which to determine whether a problem was of a long-run

nature.

As Mr. Mitchell had recognized, drawings on the swap

lines were reviewed by the Committee every three months, at which

times the Special Manager presented his judgments on the prospects

for clearing them up.

Such judgments were necessarily rough since

it was not possible to forecast accurately the balance of payments

positions of both the other country and of the U.S., and since

international flows were strongly influenced by national policies

that were subject to change.

He did not think it would be fruitful

to impose an additional "burden of proof" on the Special Manager,

since the Committee now got his best judgment on the prospects for

reversals of drawings.

He continued tothink that the Committee's

best insurance lay in the fact that, despite the many unknowns in

each situation, the record showed that swap drawings had not been

allowed to run on for extended periods.

The risk existed, of

course; but it was always in the thinking of the Account Management,

and when the duration of drawings began to approach the one-year

mark some other mode of financing had always been arranged.

Further

insurance was provided by the fact that the view of the swap network

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as providing only short-term facilities was shared by the other

parties to the arrangements.

Mr. Coombs saw no problem with Mr. Mitchell's suggested

amendment to paragraph 2(C).

The description of the interest rate

differentials referred to in that paragraph as "short-term" was

consistent with the interpretation he had been placing on the

passage.

Chairman Martin commented that the changes Mr. Mitchell had

suggested appeared in large part to involve matters of language

only.

Mr. Wayne said he did not feel that was the case with

respect to the proposed new paragraph 5.

On first reading the

statement seemed to serve a useful purpose, but on reflection he

was not sanguine that the Committee would be able to hold to it

in a true emergency affecting some major foreign currency or the

dollar.

If that judgment was correct he would question the

desirability of including the

paragraph.

Mr. Daane agreed with Mr. Wayne regarding the proposed new

paragraph.

Nor did he favor the proposed revision of paragraph 2(B).

The question of what constituted a "temporary" situation was a

difficult one to answer, and he thought it was easy to ask too much

of the Special Manager in the way of forecasts of developments.

In

his judgment that criticism could be applied to Mr. Baker's memorandum

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and to some of the other documents that had been distributed.

It was recognized, not only in the Federal Reserve but at the

Treasury and at other central banks as well, that the System's

foreign exchange operations had made a useful contribution to the

international monetary system.

To impose an arbitrary three-month

time limit would run counter to the spirit of the operations and

would reduce their usefulness.

Emphasis should be placed on purposes,

and the Special Manager should be given maximum flexibility to achieve

the stated purposes.

He had no strong objection to adding the phrase

"short-term" to paragraph 2(C), but he saw no real need for doing so,

particularly after Mr. Coombs had indicated that he so interpreted

the present language.

Moreover, the Committee had assured its foreign

partners both by word and by deed that it had no intention of using

the swap arrangements to meet long-run problems.

In sum, he would

leave the directive in the form in which it was drafted by the staff.

Mr. Swan commented that he also did not favor revising para

graph 2(B) to specify a three-month time period.

He would, however,

eliminate the word "eventually" in the phrase in that paragraph that

read ". . . System transactions should be modified, curtailed, or

eventually discontinued pending a reassessment by the Committee of

supply and demand forces."

In his judgment that word carried

implications that were not consistent with the Committee's intentions.

Mr. Hayes said he agreed fully with Mr. Daane.

He also

concurred in Mr. Coombs' view that the record showed the System had

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done remarkably well in clearing up drawings within a short time.

The Committee, in effect, had been experimenting on the question

of what constituted the best interpretation of "short-term";

whether it was three, six, or nine months in a particular case

seemed to him to depend on the facts of that case, and he favored

a more flexible interpretation than three months.

He also agreed

that the suggested paragraph 5 could be very damaging in major

crises.

There had been two or three crises in the past few years

and there might well be others,

While he, too, felt the dialogue had been highly useful,

Mr. Hayes continued, he would repeat the point he had made at the

preceding meeting--he hoped the Committee would not overlook the

extremely useful character of the operations to date.

In his

judgment the Committee could be proud of its foreign currency

operations.

Mr. Mitchell commented that if there was any question on

the point he wanted to make clear that he had not intended to imply

any criticism of the Special Manager.

On the contrary, he had felt

that his suggestions were in line with the policies the Special

Manager had been pursuing and had been recommending.

He was con

cerned with the possibility that the Committee might eventually

come under attack from critics charging that it was distorting

market conditions and concealing facts.

If the directive contained

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language of the sort he had suggested for paragraph 5, it would

strengthen the Committee's position in meeting such charges.

He

had no particular pride of authorship in the specific wording and

was not wedded to it, but the substance seemed to him to be consist

ent with the way in which the Committee was trying to operate.

Mr. Wayne agreed with Mr. Mitchell's observation, but

thought that the purpose would be served by including the first

of the two sentences.

He would omit the second sentence, which

was where the problem lay.

Chairman Martin then suggested that the Committee defer

action on the proposed new instruments until the next meeting, to

give the members more time to consider Mr. Mitchell's suggestions

and the various points raised in the discussion today.

He thought

that discussion had been valuable, and that further consideration

would be constructive from the viewpoints of both internal operations

and the System's public posture.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the

members of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System

Open Market Account covering open market operations in U.S. Government

securities and bankers' acceptances for the period April 12 through

May 4, 1966, and a supplemental report for May 5 through 9, 1966.

Copies of both reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes

commented as follows:

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The period since the Committee last met has been

highlighted by generally firmer money market conditions,

by rising interest rates in the face of strong credit

demand, and by an exceptionally apathetic reception to

a--fortunately--routine Treasury refunding operation.

Over much of the period, market participants tended

towards a consensus that the chances for a tax increase

had diminished. But there was still a general element

of uncertainty, fed in part by events in the stock

market. At the moment both the bond and equity markets

appear to be trying to sort out conflicting public

statements, and their implications for the possible

future course of fiscal and monetary policy. While

markets appear to be discounting some further gradual

tightening of monetary policy, expectations as to the

future course of long-term interest rates are still

in a state of flux, and will be strongly influenced

by developments in the stock market and by specific

developments in the fiscal policy debat,.

Day-to-day open market operations were complicated

to some extent over the period by changing bank responses

to the shifting pattern of reserve availability within

individual statement weeks, and by the general problem

of reducing net reserve availability just before a

period of Treasury refunding. While I will not try

to recount the day-by-day problems that emerged, I

might note that an accumulation of reserve needs

necessitated very heavy bank borrowing from the Reserve

Banks on April 19 and 20--amounting to nearly $1.6

billion on the latter day, the last day of the state

ment week for reserve city banks. Dealers had a great

deal of difficulty in meeting their financing needs

on that day, and market participants generally

interpreted the tight money conditions as further

evidence that the Federal Reserve was keeping bank

reserve positions on a taut rein. Partly as a result

of this atmosphere, banks over-borrowed over the fol

lowing weekend, and as the statement week ending

April 27 progressed it became apparent that even with

high net borrowed reserves the funds market was almost

certainly bound to ease up as the excess reserves

accumula ted earlier came into the money market. As

the money market did in fact begin to ease on Tuesday,

April 26, a token sale of $100 million Treasury bills

was made as a psychological reminder to the market

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that easy conditions would be resisted. On Wednesday,

April 27, it was learned that there had been a

substantial reserve shortfall on Tuesday, and that

net borrowed reserves were estimated at $376 million

for that statement week. Although even such a level

of net borrowed reserves probably would have been

consistent with a comfortable money market on that

one day, the level was too high to be consistent

with an even keel policy at the very time that the

Treasury was announcing the terms of its refunding

operation. Consequently, a substantial volume

($420 million) of reserves was injected that daydespite the easier money market. Borrowing was

light early in the week ended last Wednesday, but

the money market firmed substantially after the

weekend with Federal funds trading at 5 per cent

for the first time and dealer loan rates rising

sharply. By last Friday the effective Federal

funds rate reached 5 per cent and there had been

some trading at 5-1/8 per cent.

I believe market participants have generally

interpreted System open market operations during the

period as designed to put as much pressure on bank

reserve positions as possible in the context of even

keel considerations. The very cautious attitude of

both bank and nonbank dealers in the Treasury refunding

reflected this interpretation. Market participants

now appear to feel that they have a crystal clear

reading of the System's views on fiscal policy, and

while they would not be surprised to see some further

reduction in reserve availability and some additional

firming of interest rates, they would not expect any

major monetary moves until it became virtually certain

that no fiscal action would be forthcoming.

As everyone knows, the Treasury refunding operation

met with an unusually apathetic response. It was indeed

fortunate that the February advance refunding had reduced

the public's holding of maturing issues to only $2-1/2

billion and that the Treasury's cash position is such

that the attrition can be handled without strain. The

issue was considered to be fairly priced in the market,

and although prices of the when-issued securities

dropped to below the Treasury offering price there were

few repercussions on the market for outstanding issues.

Dealers wound up with a net position of only $130 million

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in the new 4-7/8 per cent notes and, while they had been

expecting a heavier than usual attrition, the actual 43

per cent of public holdings to be turned in for cash is

without precedent. Nevertheless, the results were taken

in stride in yesterday's trading, with market participants

focusing on other factors affecting the demand for

securities.

Despite substantial market demand for Treasury bills,

rates moved higher over most of the period since the

Committee last met, as did other rates on short-term

instruments such as finance paper and bankers' acceptances.

Selective increases in posted rates on negotiable CD's

have also been reported during the interval, with banks

in New York and Chicago finding it more difficult to

roll over maturities, apparently largely because of

increased competition from other instruments as well as

from rates being paid on CD's by other banks. Demand

for Treasury bills picked up appreciably over the past

few business days, however, and was particularly strong

yesterday. Dealers are anticipating making sizable sales

of bills over the next several days as reinvestment demand

appears from a recent secondary stock sale and from the

funds obtained through attrition in the Treasury refunding.

In this atmosphere bidding was quite aggressive in yesterday's

auction, with average issuing rates set at about 4.63 per

cent on the three-month bills and 4.82 per cent on the

six-month issue, up 1 and 6 basis points, respectively, from

the rates set in the auction just prior to the last meeting

of the Committee.

Dealer loan rates at current levels, up about 1/4 to

3/8 per cent from four weeks ago, will, as the blue bookl/

indicates, tend to work against any seasonal tendency for

rates to decline. In fact, dealer financing could become

a serious problem in the weeks ahead. As you know, several

of the large money market banks have acted virtually as

lenders of last resort at penalty rates relative to those

paid by dealers on corporate RP's or to out-of-town banks.

Given the pressure on the money center banks and their

anxiety to avoid use of the discount window except in

1/ The report, "Money Market and Reserve Relationships,"

prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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rare emergencies, there is a risk that at some point

they may decide to withdraw entirely from what has

been an extremely useful market function. While an

abrupt withdrawal may be unlikely, we shall have to

be alert to avoid a panicky situation that could ensue

if normal channels of dealer financing were to be

disrupted.

In the Treasury bond market, rates also moved

higher over most of the past four weeks, although the

strength in the market over the past few days has

reduced the net changes in yields over the period as

a whole to small proportions. Activity in the market

was unusually quiet during the period. Surprisingly

little swap activity was generated by the Treasury's

refunding, with day-to-day fluctuations in prices

depending mainly on how the market interpreted the

most current statement on fiscal policy. The sharp

decline in stock prices following the series of cut

backs in automobile production was paralleled by a

rally in Governments over the past several days with

gains yesterday ranging up to half a point.

In the corporate market, a number of syndicates

formed early in the period had to be terminated with

concessions of 10-15 basis points in order to move

securities, but later on new issues were priced more

generously and were readily sold, leaving the market

in a better technical position. The calendar is

expected to grow, however, and we hear talk of a

large number of private placements that are getting

underway. Municipal bond yields have also risen,

under the weight of dealer inventories, while the

calendar remains quite large.

The Treasury has completed its financing activity

for the 1966 fiscal year, but will be raising cash in

July--presumably through an issue of tax anticipation

bills--with an announcement likely in late June.

However, a very heavy schedule of Government agency

financing and asset sales before the end of June is

apt to exert a great deal of pressure on the markets.

New money needs have been swollen by the heavy secondary

market mortgage activity of the Federal National Mortgage

Association and by the build-up of saving and loan

association borrowing from the Home Loan Banks--both of

which are further evidence of the general pressure of

credit demand and of bank competition in financial

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markets. The FNMA last night priced a new issue of

13-month notes carrying a coupon of 5.45 per cent,

designed to raise $400 million new money, at a discount

to yield about 5.50 per cent. Later this week the

Export-Import Bank will be announcing an issue of $500

million 7-year participation certificates, expected to

carry a 5-1/2 per cent coupon, which will be placed

through a number of the larger banks throughout the

country. While it is impossible to estimate precisely

the total amount of agency issues to be brought to

market before the end of the fiscal year, the new

money need estimated in the blue book is apt to fall

near or above the upper end of the range cited--that

is, somewhere around $3 billion.

Mr. Ellis noted that all of the draft directives prepared

by the staff 1/ included references to the "current Treasury

financing" but in his report the Manager had indicated that the

Treasury had completed its financing activity for this fiscal

year.

He asked whether Mr. Holmes thought the reference was

needed in the directive.

Mr. Holmes replied that the Treasury would not make delivery

on the new securities until May 16, and customarily the even-keel

period was considered to include the date of delivery.

The market

reception of the current financing had been apathetic from the

outset, however, and there certainly were no strong even-keel

considerations at this point.

Mr. Scanlon asked whether the Manager interpreted "even

keel" to mean relatively stable net borrowed reserve figures.

1/

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Mr. Holmes replied that the reserve figures were not the

only factor.

However, the Account Management had to be alert to

how the market would interpret the marginal reserve figures.

The

market might well have been seriously upset if net borrowed reserves

of, say, $400 million had been published for the week ended April 27.

Including the operations on that day, the Management had expected

the figure to be about $315 million--which, in his view, was just

about as high as was desirable.

Mr. Wayne asked whether the announced attrition rate of

43 per cent in the financing reflected operations by the Treasury

trust accounts.

Mr. Holmes replied that it did not.

Taking account

of such operations would have raised the figure for the attrition

rate to about 50 per cent.

Thereupon, upon motion duly

made and seconded, and by unanimous

vote, the open market transactions

in Government securities and

bankers' acceptances during the

period April 12 through May 9, 1966,

were approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Chairman Martin called at this point for the staff economic

and financial reports, supplementing the written reports that had

been distributed prior to the meeting, copies of which have been

placed in the files of the Committee.

Mr. Koch made the following statement on economic conditions:

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There is somewhat more uncertainty about the

likely course of domestic economic developments today

than there was a month or six weeks ago. This is due

to a number of factors, topped perhaps by the continuing

doubt about the course of the war in Vietnam. Political

unrest in that country plus the absense to date of

additional requests for larger defense appropriations

have given some support to the idea that the rise in

military spending may taper off after mid-year.

In addition, there is a growing feeling that the

recent sharp rate of recent economic expansion cannot

be sustained. Both industrial production and retail

sales, for example, rose at about a 12 per cent

seasonally adjusted annual rate in the six-month period

ending with March, and the personal savings rate fell

to an abnormally low level in the first quarter. Both

industrial production and retail sales appear to have

expanded less rapidly in recent weeks. In the auto

industry, with dealer inventories high, some slackening

in sales in April has led quickly to a moderate reduc

tion in output.

Other factors tending to make some people feel

that future expansion is likely to be at a less frantic

pace than earlier have been the sharp drop in stock

prices, the growing complaints of those concerned with

housing and mortgage financing about the depressing

effects of tight money and higher interest rates, and

some slackening in the pace of the over-all price

advance. Industrial prices have continued to rise at

the earlier rate but there has been a turn-around in

farm and food prices from sharp rise to moderate

decline.

Granting all this, the over-all domestic economic

outlook still seems to me to be for further substantial

expansion in the foreseeable future. Indeed, some of

the doubt about likely future developments is due to

fears about the excessive rapidity of the recent rate

of advance and the maladjustments in resource allocation

that have already arisen in the current boom.

Moreover, the tapering off in expansion in activity

that has occurred thus far this quarter has been selective

and all in the consumer area. Federal Government spending,

both for defense and other purposes, continues to run

above earlier expectations, and business spending on fixed

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investment and inventories has been in line with the

upper range of estimates for these types of spending

made earlier in the year.

Estimates of business expenditures on plant and

equipment in the first quarter, for example, were more

in line with the 19 per cent increase projected for the

year as a whole by McGraw-Hill recently than with the

16 per cent projected earlier by Commerce-SEC. To me,

a most significant finding of the McGraw-Hill survey

of business investment plans was that planned spending

for 1967 through 1969 is already very large as these

early estimates go.

The tapering off in the earlier unsustainable rate

of economic expansion has probably meant some plateauing

in the rate of over-all utilization of plant capacity.

The unemployment rate has also been at or near the 3-3/4

per cent level now for the past three months. Unemploy

ment of adult males, however, has dropped to the lowest

level since World War II, with teenage unemployment

drifting up again.

An important development in wage, price, productivity,

and profit relationships in recent months has been a

moderate pickup in wage increases. With some decrease

in the rate of productivity gains, unit costs have

increased on the average. Prices have risen relatively

more than costs, however, and as a result profit margins

have continued to widen.

This development poses some potential problems. In

the first place, it has a tendency to stimulate what

already is a type of current spending whose pace of

advance cannot be sustained at current rates of expansionnamely, business investment. And, along with rising

consumer prices, it will add fuel to labor's demands for

more generous wage settlements.

In addition to the situation in Vietnam and the

current high level of business investment, the development

that would most likely threaten the sustainability of the

current economic expansion would be excessive wage

increases. This makes the current course of the cost of

living and the forthcoming labor negotiations in the

electrical and communications industries of considerable

importance. Concern over forthcoming wage negotiations

is also a prime reason for the Administration's continuing

opposition to unwarranted price increases. Much of the

price rise so far is reversible--so long as cost levels

are not generally raised.

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In conclusion, two schools of thought have

developed as to the relationship of current and

likely prospective domestic economic developments

to current stabilization policy. What might be

termed the "economic doves"--still by far the

minority group--put considerable emphasis on the

fact that likely future developments in military

spending and in business investment, in and of

themselves, will soon provide some dampening

influence on expansion in total economic activity.

They also feel that we have not yet seen the full

effects of fiscal and monetary measures already

taken. Therefore, they feel that little or no

further restraint is appropriate, particularly in

view of long lags in the effects of such restraint.

They feel that the risk of a policy that would weaken

demands in 1967--just when market forces may also be

operating in that direction--outweighs the risk of

inflation this year.

The "economic hawks," on the other hand, emphasize

They feel that

just the opposite course of events.

the continuing risk of a serious ratcheting and

acceleration of wage and price increases because of

excessive over-all demands that are likely to occur

if further fiscal and/or monetary restraint measures

are not taken outweighs the risk that such additional

restraint might contribute to recession later on. The

large first-quarter rise in GNP with its striking price

component certainly supports this point of view.

Peace-loving as I normally am, I still count myself in

the camp--or should I say the nest--of the hawks.

Mr. Partee made the following statement concerning financial

developments:

Conditions in the money market over recent weeks

have shown substantial and continuing firmness, as

discussed by Mr. Holmes and reported in detail in the

written material prepared for this meeting. And growing

pressure on bank reserve positions--at least at the marginis indicated by the rise in borrowings consistently above

the $600 million level and the deepening in net borrowed

reserves toward $300 million. Yet, in the face of these

pressures, all of the aggregate banking measures--money

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supply, credit, and reserves--grew markedly faster

in April than in the earlier months of this year.

March to April annual rates of increase, on a

daily average basis, amounted to 13.5 per cent for

money supply, 17.5 per cent for total reserves,

and 18 per cent for the member bank credit proxy.

What do these aggregate measures, sharply at

variance with money market developments, tell us

about the posture of monetary policy? The answer

is, I think, not very much. First is the fact that

there is no necessary or dependable short-run

relationship between marginal and aggregate monetary

variables.

In fact, a major reason for framing the

Committee's directive in money market and marginal

reserve terms, as I have understood it, is to permit

unusual and unpredictable variations in demands for

credit and liquidity to be accommodated initially

by the banking system. As demands fluctuate in the

short-run, the associated reserves are permitted to

be created or absorbed in order to avoid destabilizingand, at times, possibly critical--changes in market

conditions.

April appears to me to have been just such a

period. In particular, the speed-up in corporate

tax payments brought an unusual demand for liquidityone, incidentally, that is not yet provided for in

our seasonal adjustment factors, so that the "true"

seasonally adjusted expansion was probably less than

that reported. This demand was accommodated by the

banks, not so much through direct lending to the

taxpayers as through purchases of securities and an

upsurge in loans to security dealers and finance

companies as corporations liquidated their holdings.

Presumably this credit and deposit bulge at the banks

will now be reversed, if the pressure on bank reserve

positions is kept up. Privately-held demand deposits

are indicated to have declined slightly on balance

over the last three weeks, though the banks have not

yet been forced to curtail asset purchases since

Treasury deposits have built up.

A second problem in judging the aggregate banking

statistics is the need to take account of changes in

banking's share of total credit and savings flows. Pre

liminary flow-of-funds estimates for the first quarter

show a substantial reduction in credit flows through

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banks and other financial institutions, from $55 billion

in 1965 to an annual rate of $45 billion in the first

quarter of this year. This decline was more than offset

by a very sharp rise of security sales in the market,

which at the higher yields prevailing attracted direct

investment of funds that otherwise might have gone

through the financial institutions. Thus, deposit growth

diminished markedly, not only at the banks but also at

the specialized savings institutions.

In late March and April, however, the competitive

position of the banks improved abruptly. Higher offer

ing rates on CD's, posted after the prime rate increase,

widened the spread as against other market instruments,

and the banks were able not only to replace heavy

maturities but to add $1 billion to the amount outstanding.

And more vigorous competition for the savings balances

of individuals and smaller businesses--in rates, terms,

and instruments offered--produced a large net inflow of

funds in recent weeks for the banks, partly at the

expense of the savings institutions but probably also

reflecting diversions of funds from direct market

investment. The recent rapid rates of deposit inflow

from these sources will probably diminish as the initial

impact of higher bank rates wanes and also possibly as

rate differentials tend again to narrow. But to the

extent that more rapid bank deposit growth has simply

represented a diversion from other channels--and the

associated bank credit expansion merely a substitution

for credit expansion elsewhere--it seems to me that there

is little cause for concern.

If we look through the recent banking aggregates,

on the grounds that they have been influenced strongly

by temporary liquidity needs and a substitution of bank

for other credit sources, then I believe that the picture

that emerges for recent weeks is one of substantial

monetary restraint. The money markets are tight, and

they have been trending irregularly in the direction of

greater tightness for some time now. Long-term bond

yields have been moving up again in all categories, and

have now retraced about half of their corrective declines

from the extraordinary anticipatory peaks reached in

March. The price firmness of recent days seems directly

associated with the turbulence in the stock market.

Bank business loans rose at only a 10 per cent annual

rate in April, partly reflecting refinancings

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in the capital market, and there are increasing

indications of tightening in bank lending standards

and other non-price rationing measures. Finally,

in the mortgage field a marked tightening appears

to be in process, reflecting both the shift in

funds flows away from savings institutions and also

apparently reduced participation in new mortgage

commitments by banks and insurance companies.

Nevertheless, in view of continued rapid

economic expansion and mounting strains on labor,

resources, costs, and prices, it seems to me

essential to keep the pressure on in financial

markets. Indeed, continued gradual tightening

appears warranted, given the strength of demands

for goods and services and associated credit needs.

If the Committee decides that further firming in

monetary policy is required, however, there are

several factors arguing for a "go slow" approach.

First is the very large volume of Federal agency

issues and asset participation sales in prospect

over the next two months, which could put con

siderable pressure on markets even in the absence

of Treasury cash financing. Second is the unsettled

state of the markets, particularly for equities; any

marked monetary tightening, given present uncertainties,

could bring unduly severe market repercussions. Third

is the problem of the current funds position of the

savings institutions and the related difficulties of

the mortgage market; further diversions of savings

flows should not be encouraged, at least for the

time being, in the interests of financial stability.

There is also the question of how much further

tightening can be induced in the money market without

putting severe pressure on the discount rate and

current Regulation Q rate ceilings. As for the

discount rate, it would appear that primary reliance

already rests on the discipline of the window, with

Federal funds trading as high as 5 per cent or above;

further market firming would serve to increase that

reliance, but this appears to me operationally

feasible. And Regulation Q ceilings are not really

under much pressure now, reflecting the fact that

permissible time deposit rates were raised a point

or more last fall. With prime bank quotes of 5 to

5-1/4 per cent for CD's in the 60-90 day range, there

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would seem to be room for banks to compete to retain

funds even if the 3-month Treasury bill yield were

to rise close to the 5 per cent level.

Mr. Hickman noted that Mr. Partee had described the recent

fairly substantial increase in time deposits at banks as being

partly at the expense of savings institutions.

He (Mr. Hickman)

thought that was true with respect to developments in April, and

he agreed that the shift in the channels of flows was not in

itself a cause for alarm.

However, the money supply had increased

at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 13.5 per cent in April, and

private demand deposits at a rate of 16.3 per cent.

Those were

extraordinarily large increases, and he would not want to see them

continue.

He asked whether Mr. Partee was concerned about those

developments.

Mr. Partee replied that such large increases might often

provide grounds for concern.

He had tried, however, to make

several points in connection with the recent money supply increase.

First, there was an extraordinary demand for liquidity in April

because of the speed-up in corporate tax payments, and in the past

the Committee had operated in a manner that accommodated such

unusual bulges in demands to avoid disrupting markets.

Secondly,

the seasonal adjustment factors currently used did not make

adequate allowance for the tax speed-up, and presumably when the

factors were revised the increase in the seasonally adjusted

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figures would be less.

Third, the money supply was among the

series that tended to show sharp short-run fluctuations--there

were large rises in June and December 1965, for example.

Given

the nature of the series, he thought one should not overemphasize

developments in any one month.

As indicated in the blue book,

the staff estimated that there would be little net change in

private demand deposits over the two months of May and June taken

together.

If that estimate proved correct, the annual rate of

increase for the first half of 1966 would be on the order of 4.5

per cent, which was not very different from the earlier rate.

Mr. Hickman agreed that the money supply often showed

sharp monthly changes.

However, its annual rate of increase over

the December-April period was about 8 per cent, which to him

appeared to be far above the desirable rate.

He would much prefer

a growth rate on the order of 4 or 5 per cent.

Mr. Partee commented that the 8 per cent rate was obtained

by including two periods of peak growth--December and March-April.

If one considered a longer time span the rate would be lessalthough, of course, it might still be considered too high.

Mr. Hersey then presented the following statement on the

balance of payments:

Before I go to my main subject, I might mention

the recent indications of activity of the large banks

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in making foreign loans. As you know, we had a

resumption of short-term bank credit outflow in

March. Also, new commitments for term loans,

which had become very small in February, were

somewhat bigger in March and April, and this

increase in commitments was not in the high

priority category of credits for export

financing. These facts warn us against

assuming that present monetary policy will

necessarily generate further net reflows of

bank credit like those of January and February.

In what I say this morning I want to focus

on monetary policy in relation to the long-run

development of the balance of payments. The

long-run outlook for our balance of payments

is dimmer now than it was a year ago, in my

opinion, because of the gradually accelerating

rise in U.S. industrial prices.

The real news about the balance of payments

is that there is no really good news to report.

In the last three calendar quarters the

deficit has averaged nearly $2 billion annual

rate on the liquidity basis and about $1-1/2

billion on the official reserve transactions

basis. Although exports recovered in March

from their previous dip, the quarter-to-quarter

increase was not so great as the rise in imports.

The trade balance therefore shrank further: it

had been over $6-1/2 billion in 1964 and about

$5 billion in 1965, and it was down to $4-1/2

billion annual rate in the first quarter of

1966.

For many years we have been taking palliative

measures to help the balance of payments in the

short run, and these measures have made sense as

ways of gaining time while deeper adjustments

slowly got made. But thus far any evidence that

adequate adjustments are being made in international

competitive positions is scanty. If inflation is

now going to take hold in the United States, even

so mild an inflation as a 2 or 3 per cent rise a

year in the general price level might make nonsense

of our hopes of an adjustment.

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of the main changes in open market policy has been

dictated by domestic considerations. The need for

price stability, for the sake of the balance of

payments, gave a steady tilt toward a greater

firmness of policy than might have seemed necessary

otherwise, but this did not call for frequent

changes of policy on the basis of external

developments.

This approach was absolutely right, so long as

the tilt in policy in favor of price stability was

strong enough. But I think we should ask now

whether the time has perhaps come to bring more

sharply into the foreground the long-run need for

price stability for the sake of the balance of

payments.

If we were concerned only with the domestic

situation, the range of defensible diagnoses and

prescriptions right now could be rather wide,

leaving wide scope for judgment. For example,

one position could embody four propositions as

follows. The objective of sustainable economic

growth is being undermined by too much bunching

of business investment in the short run. Excess

demand is leading to a spread of price inflation,

and there is danger that a self-reinforcing spiral

of wage and living cost escalation lies ahead. It

is urgent to deal with these threats by tighter

policies that would cut excess demand, because

expansionary pressures will continue to be strong.

In the absence of any tightening of fiscal policy,

monetary policy must move vigorously to put a

squeeze on the liquidity of the large banks, along

with the rest of the economy.

If we were concerned only with the domestic

situation, a case might be made for a very different

analysis, highlighting the following four points.

Much new productive capacity is being created this

year. Lags in the impact of fiscal or monetary

policy are long. Until we can see clearly what the

effects will have been of measures already taken,

monetary policy should proceed by cautious steps.

The American economic and political system can

tolerate a good deal of price and wage inflation,

so long as expansion is maintained.

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If this second view seems indefensible today, it is

because it gives no weight to the problem of external

equilibrium. Price inflation has very different meanings

for the domestic economy and for the balance of payments.

In the modern world there is no such thing as a rollback

of an inflated cost-and-price level. Domestically,

tolerable adjustments can be reached if and when enough

prices and incomes can be brought into line with each

other at the higher level. The process may be painful

and disruptive, but when it's over, it's over. Inter

nationally, we cannot rely on foreign inflations to

accelerate along with ours. Maladjustments, once created,

are very difficult to remedy. Every step we take upwards

on the price scale is so much lost ground.

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Daane to comment on the

recent meeting of the Deputies of the Group of Ten,

Mr. Daane said that the meeting had been held in Washington

on April 19-22.

However, discussion actually began on Monday, April 18,

in a session involving four or five key Deputies, including Under

Secretary Deming, devoted to developing an outline for the Deputies'

report.

As the Committee would recall, the Deputies had been

charged with reporting back in late spring of this year, although it

now appeared that it might be early summer before a report could be

agreed upon.

The outline developed on Monday in effect served as the

agenda for the meeting on subsequent days of that week.

The first item, Mr. Daane continued, was the introduction to

the report.

A draft introduction had already been prepared by the

Canadian delegation which mainly quoted the original communique and

had little substantive content.

It was decided at the meeting to add

some substance, pointing up both the need to strengthen the stability

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of the existing international payments system and the inadequacy

of the supply of new gold for meeting the needs for secular growth

of reserves.

The second section of the outline was entitled "general

improvements in the international monetary system," Mr. Daane said,

and included items on the adjustment process and on multilateral

surveillance.

Nothing really new developed in connection with the

first item, but there was a clear thrust on the part of the Europeans

for putting more bite into the surveillance process.

They laid quite

a bit of stress on the need to go beyond the expression of judgments

to the application of those judgments to countries' policies, in

cluding the coordination of reserve policies.

The U.S. delegation

did not subscribe to that view, but the increased emphasis on multi

lateral surveillance by the Europeans--which was related to some

extent to the skeptical view they took regarding recent U.S. balance

of payments developments--was significant.

The System's short-term

credit facilities came up for discussion, and received general

approbation.

The report probably would note the usefulness of those

facilities and look forward to their fuller development, but no

specific recommendations regarding them were likely to be included.

The third section of the outline, Mr. Daane continued,

concerned future reserve creation.

The U.S. delegation stressed the

wisdom of going forward with contingency planning, emphasizing the

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inadequacy of gold and foreign exchange for meeting the needs for

secular growth in reserves.

The U.S. representatives also made the

obvious point that the report had to be positive on the score of

reserve creation in order to reassure the world that the international

monetary system could be made viable.

The French view, an isolated

one, was directly opposite; they held that there was no need at the

moment for contingency planning, and that the real need was for a

demonstration that the U.S. and Britain could solve their balance of

payments problems.

Such a demonstration was described as a precondition

before the French would be prepared to go into contingency planning.

However, they were willing to give analytical consideration to

individual elements of a contingency plan, if not to a complete plan.

The discussion then turned to the form of the new assets

envisaged, Mr. Daane said, covering new units, drawing rights, and a

dual approach.

The views of the Europeans seemed to be coalescing

around a dual approach involving a new unit for a limited group of

countries and automatic drawing rights for the rest of the world.

In

his press conference on Friday, Chairman Emminger referred to a dual

approach, but what he had in mind was quite different from the U.S.

proposal.

There was a general awareness at the meeting that all countries

had needs for reserves, Mr. Daane said.

those needs should be accommodated.

The real question was how

Another major issue was who would

activate any new arrangement, under what circumstances, and how.

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With respect to procedures, Mr. Daane remarked, it was agreed

that a draft report should be prepared by Chairman Emminger, and in

fact Mr. Emminger's draft had just been received.

It would serve as

the basis for discussion at the next meeting of the Deputies, to be

held in Rome on May 17-18.

That meeting, in turn, would be followed

by a session in the latter part of June, hopefully to put the report

in final form, and the report would be considered by the Ministers and

Governors of the Group in July.

Mr. Daane observed that Chairman Emminger was trying, with

U.S. support, to develop a report that had a positive emphasis.

There

was, indeed, a wide area of agreement, and the French were relatively

isolated.

Thus, it was agreed that a new unit ought to be a part of

any scheme developed; and that the needs of other countries had to

be taken into account in reserve asset creation.

But when one got

down to some important details, such as whether there should be a

rule of unanimity in the activation process, and whether the new asset

should be linked to gold, the questions were unresolved at this stage.

Mr. Daane noted that Mr. Robert Solomon of the Board's staff

had attended the meeting as a member of the U.S. delegation and might

want to add some observations.

Mr. Solomon commented that Mr. Daane had noted, quite rightly,

that almost everyone at the meeting looked toward some sort of dual

approach.

At the same time, there had been an IMF proposal put forth

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by Mr. Schweitzer that would, in effect, involve a unitary approach,

with a new unit created for all countries.

The new unit would come

into being as the second step in a two-step procedure, the first of

which involved automatic drawing rights.

There was some chance that

the IMF proposal would prove to be a compromise more acceptable than

any of the proposals on the table now, including that of the U.S.,

and it might turn out to be more satisfactory than the European

proposals for a new unit.

A new unit along the lines of the IMF

proposal could not be linked to gold.

Mr. Daane added that the IMF proposals, as such, had not

received extensive consideration thus far.

They had been presented

originally at the March meeting by Mr. Polak on behalf of Mr. Schweitzer,

but had not come under discussion.

Chairman Martin noted that copies of the IMF proposal had been

circulated to the Committee early in April.

He thought the members

also would be interested in a speech made by Mr. Schweitzer at Kronberg,

Germany, on April 25, and he asked the Secretary to arrange for

distribution of copies.

Mr. Daane remarked that today's Washington Post carried a

report on an extemporaneous talk made by Mr. Schweitzer in Mineapolis

yesterday which might also be distributed for the information of the

members.

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Mr. Ellis asked whether the Group of Ten Deputies were

planning to make a single report or whether separate majority and

minority positions would be set forth.

Mr. Daane replied that the Deputies had not yet arrived at

the point at which that issue was faced.

reach agreement.

They were working hard to

It was likely that the report would take a positive

stance, stressing the areas of agreement and noting the remaining

issues.

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Hayes to comment on develop

ments at the latest meeting in Basle.

Mr. Hayes said the Basle meeting was not particularly

eventful.

The subject of international liquidity was on everyone's

mind but was hardly discussed; and what discussion there was indicated

that the situation was confused.

A sad atmosphere was created by Lord

Cromer's imminent retirement as Governor of the Bank of England.

A

farewell dinner was held for him, and everyone felt keenly the prospec

tive loss of a person who had battled for firm policies and was deeply

respected by all.

Lord Cromer felt sure that the new team at the

Bank of England would take as firm a line as he had, and he thought

there was some advantage in having a team that did not have a heritage

of dispute.

In the discussion of the U.K. situation, Mr. Hayes continued,

the Basle group seemed to be willing to give the British the benefit

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of the doubt on the probable effectiveness of the budget, although

they were puzzled by the new payroll tax, which was a technique strange

to all.

Lord Cromer himself thought it was quite a strong budget that

would have rather significant deflationary effects.

He went so far

as to say that the credit squeeze--which was considerable, since the

banks had reached the limits of loans they could make--might have some

undesirable consequences, and that there might be some disposition

toward selective relaxation--for example, in connection with export

credits.

However, there was no disposition toward a general relaxation.

Removal of the surcharges on imports in November undoubtedly would

tend to raise imports but by that time, it was thought, the new budget

measures would be having a strong bite.

Mr. Hayes went on to say the Germans had reported that their

credit restraint was working more and more strongly.

was impressed by the inflationary problem in Germany.

Dr. Blessing

He noted that,

although the Federal Government had its finances under control at the

moment, local governments were borrowing substantially and the capital

market was in bad shape.

The Federal Government had agreed to stay

out of the market for the rest of the year.

The Germans had a

considerable balance of payments deficit on both capital and current

account but the deficit probably would not continue as high over the

rest of the year.

Dr. Blessing regarded the deficit as an assist in

his restrictive policy, and he did not mind having it as a warning to

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the country that it had to get its policies under control.

He did not

object to the loss of reserves Germany was experiencing currently but

he did not want to see that loss continue indefinitely.

Dr. Blessing

also pointed out that higher interest rates in the U.S. and in the

Euro-dollar market had been a distinct help to Germany because they

had virtually checked German companies from borrowing abroad.

As to the French, Mr. Hayes said, their internal situation

was good--with little inflation--and their balance of payments was

highly favorable.

Both their imports and exports were up sharply,

and their trade balance was quite favorable this year.

As Mr. Coombs

had pointed out, the French showed no disposition to help by offsetting

their reserve accumulations.

He (Mr. Hayes) had taken the liberty of

asking Mr. Brunet if it was not time to eliminate the restrictions on

long-term foreign borrowing in France, and had received the interesting

answer that Mr. Brunet thought so, and perhaps the Minister himself,

but there were others who did not think so.

There was some undertone of concern about the U.S. balance

of payments at the meeting, Mr. Hayes remarked.

Some cynicism was

evident on the part of certain central bank governors about the

credibility of U.S. assurances, since statements that balance or

near balance in U.S. payments would be achieved soon were followed

by statements that balance did not seem to be in sight as yet.

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made on the negotiations for short-term credit assistance to the U.K.

to cover run-downs of sterling balances.

Although there still were

some open issues raised by a few parties to the negotiations he

believed that the remaining details would be worked out.

Mr. Coombs

might have something to report to the Committee on the subject at

the next meeting.

Chairman Martin then called for the go-around of comments

and views on economic conditions and monetary policy.

Mr. Hayes,

who began the go-around, made the following statement:

The economy is increasingly displaying the charac

teristics of a typical cyclical boom aggravated by the

influence of Vietnam developments. The data that have

become available in the meantime suggest a stronger outlook

than at the time of the last meeting. The business reports

continue to picture an economy operating under conditions

of sharply expanding demand and progressively greater

resource limitations. We begin to see signs of a wage

drift rooted in spreading labor shortages. At the same

time industry is operating at close to capacity. It

would be comforting if one could anticipate a rise in

capacity and productivity sufficient to meet growing

demands. As it is, rising demands, supported by a bank

credit expansion of hardly diminished strength, are

clearly adding to price and wage pressures. We may say

that the patient is already running a low fever, and there

is a very big risk that the fever will rise, even though

recent stock market developments may provide some of the

much-needed dampening influence.

This would be bad enough from a purely domestic point

of view. But I am increasingly impressed by the implications

of rising costs and prices for our balance of payments

prospects this year. I had an opportunity in Basle to

observe the effect on European central bankers of the

change on our domestic scene from an orderly but vigorous

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expansion to an atmosphere where everything is straining

at the seams.

Frequent contacts with commercial bankers

and financial and business leaders of various countries

confirm the impression that this is going to be a critical

year for the dollar. There is no need to stress in this

group the importance of maintaining a fully competitive

position in world markets and to avoid excessive demand

pressures which tend to stimulate imports and to discourage

exports. After last fall's ringing assurances by the

highest authorities in the Administration that payments

equilibrium will be achieved in 1966, our entire inter

national bargaining position--and not only in the economic

sphere--will be seriously hurt if 1966 shows a deterioration.

New reports on the probable size of direct investment abroad

are discouraging. Unless we make strenuous efforts to

redress this unfavorable prospect, we may find ourselves

in an even worse position than a few years ago, when the

dollar was subject to grave suspicion abroad. This time,

with several years of additional deficits in back of us,

our leeway in the form of potential foreign credit to the

U.S. will be considerably more limited.

Under these circumstances, the need for restraint

is clear. The classic methods for exercising restraint

under present conditions involve fiscal and monetary

policy. The latter has, of course, moved quite a distance

since last November toward tighter restraint, but our

policy moves have not as yet put a sufficient damper on

inflationary pressures. April credit figures, which reflect

a number of special factors and thus are not necessarily

indicative of the underlying trend, suggest nevertheless

that the economy continues to be supplied with credit at

a rate considerably in excess of the possibilities for

expanding real output. Restraint takes some time to

affect the various parts of the financial structure. Gradual

tightening has already produced some retrenchment and

moderation, but also some anticipatory borrowing as well as

strains and stresses on financial markets. While we could,

and probably should, move somewhat further in the direction

of greater monetary restraint, I think that caution is

called for. With many key interest rates higher than

at any time in the postwar years, the risks of forcing

monetary policy to carry the burden alone are not

inconsiderable.

I would also stress that it is hard to

think of any further action on the monetary side that

could have an important immediate effect in dampening

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the inflationary atmosphere without undesirable and

perhaps somewhat unpredictable effects on financial

markets.

The obvious need is for a significant and prompt

assist in the form of greater fiscal restraint.

I

have been very much disappointed to observe the great

reluctance of the Administration, probably in large

part for political reasons, to embrace the widespread

I am glad that the

proposals for a tax increase.

Chairman made such a forthright statement a few days ago

on the need for a prompt and adequate tax increase. We

probably all agree that restraint on Government spending

must be part of any move on the fiscal side, but it seems

fairly clear that sufficient restraint on spending is

not so far in the making.

I feel that the conscious use

of fiscal policy to affect general business conditions

represents a big advance in public policy, but if this

new weapon is to be used effectively it must be resorted

to in both directions.

Meanwhile, as I have already indicated, we should be

doing what we can in the monetary area to restrain the

rate of bank credit expansion, by pressing a little harder

on the availability of bank reserves. This might, of

course, mean somewhat higher interest rate levels, although

some degree of further tightening may have already been

discounted by the market.

After an appropriate short interval following the

delivery of Treasury securities on May 16, we should aim

at somewhat deeper net borrowed reserves. Given recent

market gyrations, it is more than ever difficult to

pinpoint a level of net borrowed reserves that would avoid

a sharp rise in open market rates and consequent expectations

of an imminent increase in the discount rate. But I believe

that a figure centering around $350 million would be

appropriate, with borrowings around $700 million. The

Manager should be given enough leeway to make adjustments

if market pressures threaten to become too intense. Even

a moderate and orderly upward movement in rates is likely

to push the Federal funds rate occasionally to, or even

above, 5 per cent, as banks are forced to make fairly

substantial adjustments in their assets position, in

particular if loan demands continue strong even though

some demands for funds have been rechanneled into the

capital markets.

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While I realize that conditions might develop which

would lead us to consider a further discount rate action,

I do not feel that we have reached the point as yet.

Clearly, such an increase would raise the complex question

of the proper action with regard to Regulation Q ceilings.

In the meantime, the contemplated goal of open market

operations for the next policy period does not seem to

require any change in the directive, and I therefore

favor alternative B.

Mr. Francis said that total demand for goods and services

had been rising excessively.

Gross national product, in current

dollars, had risen at a 10 per cent annual rate since the third

quarter of last year compared with a 7 per cent rate in the previous

year.

With the economy operating at virtual capacity, growth in

real output had not kept pace.

Since the fourth quarter real GNP

had risen at a 6 per cent annual rate compared with an 8 per cent

rate in the previous quarter.

As a result, prices as measured by

the implicit price deflator rose at a 3.6 per cent rate in the most

recent quarter, double the rate of the previous quarter.

That was

the largest quarter-to-quarter increase in prices in many years.

The rise was probably understated since the standard price measures

did not take fully into consideration elimination of discounts and

deterioration of quality.

There were indications that prices would

have risen even more without the Presidential guidelines, which were

becoming increasingly difficult to maintain.

The contribution of monetary policy to total demand for

goods and services had continued to be very great, Mr. Francis said.

pending had been facilitated by a continued rapid flow of bank funds.

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Total commercial bank credit, which rose about 10 per cent in 1965,

had continued to expand at about that same rapid rate in early 1966.

Since the expansion in bank credit had exceeded the volume

of saving in the form of time deposits, demand deposits had continued

to rise at a very fast pace, Mr. Francis noted.

Demand deposits had

risen since early February and also since last November at more than

three times the average rate of increase since 1956.

The money

supply of the country, reflecting primarily the jump in demand deposits,

had risen at an 8 per cent annual rate since early February and since

last November, and at a 6 per cent rate since a year ago.

Money had

not risen so rapidly over any other twelve-month period in twenty

years; the next highest rate of growth for a year was 5.6 per cent

during the Korean War.

It seemed inappropriate to add to the stock

of money so rapidly at a time when total spending was excessive.

The great increases in bank credit and the cash balances of

the public might have been fostered by a strong demand for credit,

Mr. Francis noted.

Yet, he felt the System had to assume responsibility

for the banking system's rapid expansion, since member bank reserves

to support the growth had increased at an advanced rate.

Net System

purchases of securities had been a chief factor adding to reserves.

Since February the System had not offset gains of reserves from other

factors, particularly Treasury operations.

In short, for almost a

year it had been feeding the extraordinary demand for loan funds at

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a rapid rate by a policy of permitting only slightly firmer money

market conditions.

Not only had monetary actions been expansive but the fiscal

situation was now in the fourth quarter of the most stimulative

high employment budget of the past 13 years,

Mr. Francis continued.

The outlook was for continuation and possible intensification of

fiscal stimulation during the rest of the calendar year.

That was

a highly expansive policy when the need was for public policy

restraint on total demand.

He believed cuts in Government outlays

and/or an increase in taxes would be appropriate.

At the same time, irrespective of what might be done fiscally,

there seemed to Mr. Francis to be no justification for continuing

monetary expansion at extraordinarily high rates.

A necessary step

in cutting back on the excessive monetary demand for goods and

services was to reduce substantially the rates of increase of total

member bank reserves, of bank credit, and of the money supply.

The Committee could control the quantity of those magnitudes

by appropriate purchases or sales of Government securities, Mr. Francis

observed.

He believed it should pursue such a course, with only

secondary consideration given to other objectives such as day-to-day

money market stability.

Preoccupation with such other objectives for

the past ten months had let the Committee to substantial monetary

expansion that he interpreted the directive to have said it did not

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want, and the Committee had thereby continued to contribute to

excessive total demand.

The wording of the directive might have been partly

responsible for the unintended monetary expansion, Mr. Francis

remarked.

There had now been ten or eleven months when the directive

had continuously called for a moderation or restriction of expansion

in bank reserves, bank credit, and money, and at the same time had

called for only slightly firmer money market conditions.

Those

instructions had been inconsistent in the face of the unusually

strong demands for credit, and there had been very rapid increases

in bank reserves, bank credit, and the money supply.

Mr. Francis suggested that the directive now clearly state

that the primary objective of the Committee was to obtain a slower

rate of growth in member bank reserves, bank credit, and money.

To

attain those goals, the Committee should be willing to accept the

levels of short-term interest rates, net borrowed reserves, or other

money market conditions that were necessary.

It seemed strange to Mr. Francis that some analysts had

implied that monetary policy had done about all it could to resist

inflation when the banking system had been expanding at record rates.

Also, fears of financial panics or other disruptive consequences of

a further rise in interest rates seemed exaggerated in view of the

fact that rates in foreign countries had been much higher and on

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occasion had risen faster than U.S. rates without serious consequences.

Any resultant higher interest rates might be beneficial to the U.S.

balance of payments.

If the Committee should now achieve restriction of monetary

expansion, and if that should lead to excessive difficulty in

administering the discount window, the System could then consider

raising discount rates, Mr. Francis said.

Of the three alternative

directives submitted for consideration, alternative C seemed to fit

best his idea of what policy should be.

Mr. Patterson reported that evidence of tightening financial

conditions in the Sixth District seemed to be concentrated in the

mortgage market and at related financial institutions.

Since the

South was a net importer of mortgage funds, the effects of the changes

in the availability of funds in the national markets were quickly

transmitted to the Sixth District.

Earlier in the year the inflow

of new mortgage funds was practically cut off.

Now that flow seemed

to have been restored somewhat, partly because of the raising of the

contract rate ceiling on FHA and VA mortgages.

Nevertheless, so far

as he had been able to determine, no mortgage bankers were originating

loans without specific commitments.

The chief local source of

mortgage funds, savings and loan associations, had also been reduced.

Net new savings growth at savings and loan associations in the District

States was about 12 per cent lower through the first three months of

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1966 than in the corresponding period last year, and loan repayments

were down 7 to 8 per cent.

Unofficial figures for April indicated

a much deeper decline with the outstandings at some associations

down from the end of last year.

The slowdown in the inflow of funds to the savings and

loan associations reflected, of course, competition for time deposit

funds by the District's commercial banks, Mr. Patterson said.

In

the large cities advertising campaigns were being pursued vigorously,

and it was understood that more of the banks in the smaller cities

were entering the competition by posting higher rates on savings

certificates.

More of the expansion in business loans this year was

accounted for by loans to trade concerns and manufacturers of

nondurable goods than was the case last year, Mr. Patterson noted.

That development, together with the high rate of consumer spending

that characterized the first quarter of this year and the growth in

consumer loans, suggested that the consumer

might be exerting a

stronger influence on the demand for credit than formerly.

figures pointed to one conclusion.

Banking

They gave little evidence of

any slowdown in bank credit growth in response to a more restrictive

credit policy.

Behind those District financial developments was a continuing

high level of economic activity, Mr. Patterson continued.

With the

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insured unemployment rate in the District down to 1.8 per cent

and with the scarcity of skilled workers, however, manufacturers

might find it more difficult to increase their production in the

coming months in accordance with the usual seasonal pattern in the

District.

Despite the generally rosy tone of the statistics, Mr. Patterson

remarked, a few businessmen saw some difficulties ahead.

Such straws

in the wind had not assumed major proportions and were generally

confined to possible slowdowns at individual businesses or types of

business.

For the District the picture remained one of buoyancy,

with demands pressing on resources and available credit.

When it came to the national scene, Mr. Patterson saw nothing

to show that the description found in the first paragraph of the

directive adopted at the last meeting of the Committee no longer

held.

The domestic economy was still expanding vigorously, industrial

prices were continuing to creep upward, and credit demands remained

strong.

Thus, the policy of restricting the growth in the reserve

base, bank credit, and the money supply still seemed to be appropriate.

What bothered Mr. Patterson was that the Committee had not

been at all successful in restricting the growth of the reserve base,

bank credit, and the money supply, even though it had moved toward

larger net borrowed reserve figures.

In the meantime, borrowing had

increased substantially and the reserve base, bank credit, and the

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money supply had gone on expanding--indeed, at accelerated rates.

Total reserves, which rose at seasonally adjusted annual rates of

4.6 and 3.3 per cent in February and March, respectively, rose at

a 17.9 per cent rate in April.

Other reserve measures and the

money supply behaved in a similar fashion.

If the demand for credit continued strong and member banks

continued to go to the discount window as they had in recent weeks,

operating to produce a net borrowed reserve figure of aroung $300

million would do nothing to prevent an accelerated rate of expansion,

Mr. Patterson believed.

At the very least, the Committee should

operate so as to return to the rate of reserve expansion that

prevailed in early 1966.

That would, of course, imply a much

deeper net borrowed reserve position than that of the last few weeks.

He favored alternative B of the draft directives.

Mr. Bopp said that, with no let up in the pressures of demand

and with hopes for a tax increase slowly dwindling, it appeared to

him that decisions on monetary policy assumed even more critical

importance than in the recent past.

It was especially important for

current policy to try to ascertain insofar as possible the impact

of measures already taken.

Five months had now passed since the increase in the discount

rate, Mr. Bopp noted.

During that time, a progressive tightening of

marginal reserve availability had occurred and significant upwar

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pressures on

interest rates had developed.

Evidence had also been

seen of a change in bank attitudes toward lending, occasional

postponements of issues slated for the capital markets, and an

increasingly slim margin--indeed, in many cases a disappearance of

the margin--between commitments of life insurance companies and

inflows of lendable funds.

A significant tightening had also been seen in the home

mortgage market, Mr. Bopp continued.

A survey just completed at

the Philadelphia Reserve Bank of Third District mortgage lenders

showed a dramatic change recently in both the cost and availability

of money.

Mortgage rates had jumped from a January range of 5-1/4

5-3/4 per cent, depending on downpayment, to 6 per cent generally

for all conventional home mortgages.

On FHA and VA insured loans,

the average discount was now 3 points, and by mid-summer FHA

expected the average discount to be 4-1/2 points.

So far lenders

had not made changes in percentage downpayments for mortgages;

however, lenders were more critical of credit standings, ability to

pay, and other obligations.

Mr. Bopp commented that money tightened during 1966 primarily

because insurance companies and savings and loan associations had

less to lend for home financing.

Half of the savings and loan

associations contacted no longer accepted mortgage applications from

non-depositors.

Many of those had recently experienced net deposit

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outflows for the first time in memory.

The association officials

blamed the high rate of interest and the small denomination feature

of commercial bank CD's for their plight.

Insurance company funds for home mortgages were reduced in

early 1966, Mr. Bopp said.

Among surveyed companies, three large

institutions had bowed out of home mortgages since January.

None

of the insurance companies foresaw a return to the home mortgage

business in the next couple of years.

One large institution was

over-committed for industrial loans through 1968 and now accepted

applications for 1969 delivery only.

Another was committed into 1967.

Yet, Mr. Bopp observed, despite those various examples of

credit tightening, the fact remained that bank credit, bank reserves,

and the money supply had continued to grow at a rate in excess of that

desirable in the present business environment.

Of course, the

Committee did not really know all it should about the linkages and

lags of monetary action and it did not know precisely how far it

could go in cumulating tightness without undesirable effects on the

capital markets.

However, in his judgment, some gradual move toward

further restraint was desirable to curb the excessive flows of money

and credit.

If the Committee moved gradually now, it might be able

to avoid sharper action sometime in the future and thereby prevent

a rapid shift in the credit environment and in market sentiment that

could be particularly unsettling.

Additional restraint should be

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imposed gradually and in a probing fashion.

He favored alternative B

of the draft directives.

Mr. Hickman observed that the latest information on the

business situation showed that excess demand continued in all major

sectors of the economy:

business, government, and consumer.

So

long as demand pressed on capacity, prices would continue to rise.

The latest rise in industrial prices between mid-March and mid-April

was simply another illustration of fundamental imbalances that now

existed in supply-demand relationships.

Despite widespread evidence of overheating, Mr. Hickman said,

several straws in the wind suggested some possible cooling off of

the situation, as Mr. Koch had indicated.

Painful as they were to

some, the weaker stock market and some slackening of auto sales and

output were highly desirable under present circumstances.

A serious

weakening of auto demand would have a retarding influence on steel

output--which, incidentally, showed no increase in April on a

seasonally adjusted basis, for the first time in many months.

If

defense spending leveled off, if capital spending moderated, and if

Congress held the line on nondefense spending, it might be that the

Committee would find in retrospect that the economy had already passed

the inflationary crest.

But he had been disappointed on that score

many times before; the weight of the evidence at the moment still

pointed to inflationary overheating.

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In that situation, and in view of the weakening U.S. balance

of payments situation, Mr. Hickman felt monetary policy should move

further toward restraint.

Since higher income taxes seemed unlikely

in the foreseeable future--whatever might be their economic logicmonetary policy had to fill the void.

In so doing, the Committee

should be willing to go as far as was needed to eliminate excess

demand and price inflation.

Unfortunately, the Committee had not

been too successful since the date of the last discount rate increase.

The rates of expansion of bank reserves, bank credit, and the money

supply that occurred in December and again in April were simply too

high to be tolerated.

The problem, as Mr. Hickman saw it, was that the Committee

had been paying too much attention to net borrowed reserves and

money market conditions, and not enough to aggregate reserve measures.

An attempt to maintain limited variations in net borrowed reserves

and interest rates had resulted in undue expansion in all key monetary

variables.

Given what was known about the relationship between money

and prices--which, despite the Chicago school, was far too little--it

would seem appropriate at this time to allow total reserves to expand

with real output at an annual rate of no more than about 5 per cent,

rather than the 8 per cent annual rate of increase that had occurred

since January or the 17.5 per cent increase of April.

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Mr. Hickman recommended that in the weeks ahead the Committee

try to hold the rate of increase in total reserves to 5 per cent or

less, even if that should mean further deepening of net borrowed

reserves to the $500 million or $600 million levels.

On the other

hand, the Board's staff suggested during last Friday's telephone

hookup, in which he participated, that roughly the desiredrate of

reserve growth might be achieved in May with net borrowed reserves

around the $300 million level.

In any event, the Committee should

seek to moderate reserve growth rather than to stabilize net borrowed

reserves.

The course of action he preferred seemed to be best

expressed in alternative C proposed by the staff, although he would

not vote against alternative B if that was the consensus of the

Committee.

The situation was so serious that he would forget the

current Treasury financing, and would get on with the main job of

trying to check price inflation.

Mr. Brimmer remarked that he would not comment extensively on

the strength of the current economic situation, which already had been

discussed at some length.

He would say, however, that he hoped the

Committee would not over-react to any dissatisfaction with the rate

at which it was exerting restraint.

He certainly would not want to see

the Committee attempt to make up now for whatever deficiencies there

may have been in its recent operations.

Mr. Brimmer shared the concern of Messrs. Hayes and Hersey

about the balance of payments situation.

Those working with the

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Cabinet committee on the balance of payments were extremely disappointed

by recent developments, and saw nothing in the policy tool kit that

would lead to much improvement over the rest of 1966.

If anything,

the situation had deteriorated in the last few weeks; as the evidence

came in, it looked as though the 1966 deficit might well be closer

to $2 billion than to $1-1/2 billion, although the figure could not

be pinned down firmly as yet.

The results of the voluntary restraint program by the business

community were particularly disappointing, Mr. Brimmer continued.

It

had been anticipated that the program, which began in 1965, would

result in a saving of $1 billion in 1966 in direct investments abroad.

While a clear reading was still not possible, it appeared that corporations

had saved substantial parts of their two-year quotas in 1965, and that

if they used their remaining quotas in 1966 the net gains through that

part of the voluntary restraint program would be disappointing.

The

results of the voluntary restraint program of banks warranted some

optimism, although, as Mr. Hersey had indicated, there were reasons

for not being overly-optimistic in that area.

However, he remained

rather optimistic about bank flows because he felt that the domestic

pressures on banks would hold down their outflows over the rest of

the year.

Other parts of the Government's present program did not

appear particularly powerful, although the Cabinet committee was

continuing to work on the problem and might well come up with some

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effective proposals.

In general, it was important that sight not

be lost of the developing seriousness of the situation.

With respect to credit policy and the directive, Mr. Brimmer

thought the Committee should not be insensitive to the conditions

now prevailing in financial markets.

He agreed that the condition

of markets should not be made a primary objective, but it was

necessary to recognize that--even aside from developments in the

stock market--the pressures on some financial institutions were

already severe.

The Committee should not overlook the parade of

agency issues that already was taxing the market and would tax it

further.

Those issues might well be disorderly as well as sizable.

Moreover, the Committee should remain sensitive to the situation of

Government security dealers who, after all, were an essential element

in the process of open market operations.

Personally, he would not

favor instructing the Manager to dump a large amount of securities

into the market, because it might be well beyond the capacity of the

dealers to absorb them.

The Committee members all had a sense of

history, and while it would not be desirable to be overly-concerned

with the possibility of a financial panic the members should remain

alert to the extremely sensitive situation in some markets.

Mr. Brimmer agreed that the Committee should proceed further

with tightening.

He was willing to suggest a net borrowed reserves

objective to the Manager, on the understanding that it would not be

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viewed as a rigid target for operations.

While there was no way

of knowing whether a net borrowed reserve figure of $350 million

would lead to a sufficient degree of restraint, it might be a

good proxy and he suggested that it be kept in mind.

Member bank

borrowings might well rise to $750 million or $1 billion.

He

thought the Manager should press ahead with those figures in mind,

on the assumption that the current Treasury financing was just

about completed.

Mr. Maisel agreed with previous speakers that the

Committee had to carefully examine its record for the past five

months.

It should decide whether it was or was not satisfied

with the manner in which it had shaped its open market operations

The question the Committee had to answer, Mr. Maisel said,

was how close its actual operations had come to meeting its over

all policy objectives.

He was not questioning the manner in

which the Desk had carried out its instructions.

He was concerned

with the sub-goals the Committee seemed to have adopted because

of a failure to specify its goals more completely; with the manner

in which the Committee had instructed the Desk; and with the

results of its actions.

credit growth.

In December the Committee chose to restrict

Since January 11, 1966, its policy directive at

each meeting had called either for moderating, maintaining low,

or restricting growth in the reserve base, bank credit, and money

supply.

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What had the facts been?

itself?

Had the Committee been kidding

In place of moderate or restricted growth, each monetary

or credit index showed a much sharper growth rate in the past five

months than it had in the previous five.

With the exception of

future mortgage funds, interest rates--which were not included in

the Committee's directive--were the major items that were tighter

and those, it was recognized, were a function of market expectations

even more than of the Committee's own action.

He disagreed rather

completely with Mr. Partee's analysis and he agreed with the

previous speakers.

The Committee had to differentiate between

moves caused by shifts in demand and those it allowed, or caused,

in supply.

It was not an answer to the claim that the Committee

alloweda very rapid credit expansion to say it rose only 70 or

90 per cent as fast as banks and businesses wanted it to expand.

He believed Mr. Partee's analysis led to a complete abdication of

the System's role in determining monetary policy.

Such analyses

and stress on marginal rather than total reserves led to the

conclusion that if businesses wanted loans and if banks wanted to

lend, the Committee had to go along with their desires.

Mr. Maisel said he hardly thought that the Committee

could conclude that it had done much toward combatting inflation

during the past five months.

Au contraire, when members looked

at total reserves or nonborrowed reserves, either of which he took

to be the principal measure of the Committee's actions, they must

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all be appalled at the Committee's results.

He found it difficult

to believe the figures but, if he read them correctly, in the five

months since December 1 the Committee had poured more reserves

into the banking system than were furnished in the entire previous

year.

In fact, if the figures were correct, since December 1 the

total increase in reserves had been larger than in any full year

since 1951.

The growth in the money supply, bank credit, and

business loans had been equally large.

In Mr. Maisel's view, those results did not accord with

either the Committee's intent, its statements, or sound policy.

While all members recognized that there might be a considerable

lag between changes in money and credit and changes in the world

of production and prices, the Committee had stressed that monetary

policy was flexible and therefore was able to move at least the

monetary variables in a fairly rapid manner.

seem to be the case.

Now that did not

The fifth month after the System's policy

change saw the largest growth of any in most of the money and credit

variables.

The Committee apparently had followed sub-goals such

as feel of the market, net reserves, or the need to offset shocks,

and as a result it had moved in a direction opposite to its real

policy aim.

Mr. Maisel believed that if the reserve picture were not

turned around at once, the point might well have been passed where

it made sense to talk of and use monetary policy as a method of

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restraining demand.

The System might well have generated all of

the costs of a publicized policy shift without gaining any of the

benefits expected from such a change in policy.

Since more than

a record year's supply of reserves had already been furnished, it

seemed clear to him that it was no longer sufficient to talk about

moderating growth.

The Committee should press for a reduction in

total reserve availability on a seasonally adjusted basis, even

if that meant a very sharp increase in net borrowed reserves.

would support alternative C for the directive.

He

If there was suffi

cient sentiment around the table, and there seemed to be, he would

be willing to try to redraft it in a considerably more emphatic

form and with stress on total reserves rather than with the present

emphasis on the marginal measures.

At the same time, Mr. Maisel urged again that the Committee

give more information to the market.

Since any real effort to

correct the present situation was going to have to be made obvious

to all, he thought that the use of a change in reserve requirements,

with its resultant publicity, might be a simpler and more certain

procedure than searching again for a level of net borrowed reserves

that would bring the Committee to its ultimate goal.

However, if

there was no agreement on a change in the reserve ratio, he thought

it should be made clear by official statements that the Committee

was trying to restrain credit through open market operations and

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that it did not think that either a change in the discount rate

or in Regulation Q need accompany such a decrease in reserves.

He did not think the Committee should feel constrained, as he

thought the Manager indicated it had been, to furnish reserves

because the market might misinterpret the published free reserve

figures in any week.

The Committee ought to improve its

communications instead.

Mr. Daane said he agreed essentially with the positions

of Messrs. Hayes and Brimmer and would not take the time to repeat

their analyses.

He thought the domestic economy was still over

heating, and he was perhaps even more pessimistic than Mr. Hersey

and Mr. Brimmer regarding the outlook for the balance of payments

this year.

He remained hopeful that fiscal policy action would

be taken, and he shared Mr. Brimmer's concern about the sensitive

state of financial markets and the implications of some existing

rate relationships.

He favored alternative B for the directive,

reminding the Committee that the Treasury had just completed an

unsuccessful financing that had yet to be digested.

Mr. Mitchell commented that for the most part he shared

the concern others had expressed in the discussion today and agreed

that it was important for the Committee to get control over the

rate of monetary expansion.

He did think, however, that the

Committee had accomplished a little more than had been acknowledged.

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There was a little evidence that the economy was getting some

tranquilization, and that was due partly to the efforts of the

System.

The psychological environment was much better at present

than it had been in February or at the end of January, and it

would be helpful to the Committee's objectives if the present

tone continued in the stock market and if additional auto companies

cut back their production schedules.

Mr. Mitchell still thought it might be possible to achieve

the necessary degree of restraint without a change in the discount

rate, but if a discount rate increase was required he would be

agreeable to it.

However, he was not in favor of any action that

would result in increasing the Regulation

Q ceilings.

The System's

policy actions had already put so much pressure on the housing

industry that it was writhing in anticipation of a serious cut

back later this year, and it would not be desirable to put additional

pressure on that sector at present.

As to the directive, Mr. Mitchell said, the modest steps

implied in both alternatives B and C seemed consistent with the

present discount rate.

Of the two, he preferred alternative C.

However, if he were to put his preferences in his own language

they would be, first, to keep bank lending conditions firm--to

discourage backsliding in the tight policies at many banks, and

to encourage the spread of such policies to other banks.

Secondly,

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he thought that growth in bank credit and the money supply as

projected by the staff was larger than desirable, and that another

bulge such as occurred in March-April should be avoided.

He was

sympathetic to the staff's view that the seasonal adjustments were

inadequate, and he thought Mr. Maisel might be interpreting the

figures too literally.

Nevertheless, he would make a slowing of

money supply and bank credit growth in the next few months the

overriding consideration.

He was uncertain about the level of net

borrowed reserves that would be consistent with that objective;

it might be $350 million, but if a deeper figure was required he

would not be concerned.

Nor would he be worried about the

of the Federal funds rate.

level

If banks were willing to pay 5-1/2 per

cent for deposits they would not balk at paying even more, if

necessary, for Federal funds.

It seemed to Mr. Mitchell that a good deal of what had

been accomplished in restraining bank credit growth had been the

result of discount window administration, and he thought the

System's discount officers should be congratulated on their work.

The informal talks that the Reserve Bank Presidents had held with

bankers also were helpful.

Hopefully, by these means the System

might at least temporarily keep a considerable degree of restraint

on banks of a type that might not even show up in the banking

statistics.

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In Mr. Mitchell's judgment the present was an extremely

critical period.

The economy might be at or near a turning point,

and it was quite likely that there would be developments soon

that would make a change in the Committee's policy desirable.

For

that reason he wondered whether the Committee should not consider

scheduling another meeting in Washington in two weeks.

Telephone

conference meetings were useful when some narrow action required

consideration, but they were not very satisfactory for purposes

of more general deliberation.

In concluding, Mr. Mitchell noted that he favored as firm

a policy as possible at present without a change in the discount

rate.

Mr. Shepardson said he also thought it unnecessary to

repeat views that had already been expressed.

He was particularly

impressed--and concerned--with the point made by Mr. Hersey and

implied by Mr. Koch that when ground was lost with respect to

prices and wage rates the situation might be irreversible.

Food

price increases ordinarily were reversible, since the country's

agricultural capacity was large and production could be expanded

rapidly.

Rises in food prices thus were not critical except as

they contributed to the cost of living and the latter was one of

the bases on which wage rates were determined.

But increases in

industrial prices were not as easily reversible; and, accordingly,

they should be prevented if possible.

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Also, Mr. Shepardson continued, like others he was

concerned that despite the Committee's statement in successive

directives that its policy was to restrict growth in reserves,

bank credit, and the money supply, the increases in all three

continued to be greater than desirable.

In his judgment the

Committee should be watching total reserve availability, which

was rising too rapidly.

Mr. Shepardson favored alternative C of the draft

directives.

He noted that Mr. Maisel had mentioned the possibility

of modifying the language of the draft.

He (Mr. Shepardson) would

replace the phrase "with a view to attaining some further gradual

reduction in net reserve availability," with the phrase, "with a

view to attaining a reduction in reserve availability."

The

staff's language implied that some reduction already had occurred

in reserve availability, and he did not think that was the case.

Mr. Wayne reported that business continued to show

considerable vigor in the Fifth District although there was some

evidence in the Reserve Bank's latest survey and in the statistical

record that the rate of advance might have slowed somewhat.

Declining

growth rates, for instance, appeared in both nonfarm employment and

factory man-hours in the two most recent months for which figures

were available.

The survey showed further increases in manufacturers'

new and unfilled orders, but fewer respondents reported gains than

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in surveys taken one and two months earlier.

Reports of higher

wages and prices, however, were more numerous than before.

Regarding general expectations, Mr. Wayne continued, the

survey showed some diminution of optimism among bankers but not

among businessmen.

Materials shortages had been reported with

increasing frequency by manufacturers and contractors, while

shortages of skilled labor had become an acute problem for some

of the District's principal industries.

Textile producers cited

their difficulties in retaining experienced workers, along with

low existing pay scales, as evidence that the 3.2 per cent wage

guidepost had questionable validity in their case.

Certain wage

increases to textile workers were mentioned in the press over the

past weekend.

He expected that that movement would spread through

out the industry rather quickly and that, including fringe benefits,

the effective increase would be nearer 5 per cent than 3.2 per

cent.

Furniture manufacturers reported that hardwood shortages

were forcing use of substitute materials to maintain production.

The evidence, briefly, suggested that output growth was being

slowed by resources limitations.

As for the national economy, Mr. Wayne said, fairly complete

statistics seemed to bear out the widely held impression that the

first-quarter rate of advance was not sustainable and that its

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persistence even into the near-term future would confront the

economy with serious overemployment problems.

It was disturbing to Mr. Wayne to consider the preliminary

figures on aggregate reserves and reserve related measures for

April.

According to those preliminary figures, the growth of

reserves, bank credit, and money, after allowance for seasonal

factors, was of the order of the unusual expansion that occurred

last December.

He was aware of the problems of seasonal

corrections in those data and he would not like to make too much

of a single month's figures.

Yet it might be appropriate to note

that such rates were hardly compatible with a declared policy of

restraint.

With respect to current policy, Mr. Wayne saw little

reason to interpret the fragmentary April figures as a reason for

any relaxation in restraint.

About one-third of the first-quarter

increase in GNP was attributable to higher prices, and pressures

of such a magnitude would not be quickly dissipated.

Moreover,

the prospect of any contribution toward restraint from fiscal

policy struck him as distinctly dimmer now than it was a month ago.

On the other hand, he would be eager to avoid stepping on the brakes

too hard.

He could readily agree that it was necessary to keep the

market under pressure and to hold reserve availability in check.

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Yet he wondered about the meaningfulness of free reserves and

market tone targets in the present booming business environment.

It seemed to Mr. Wayne that the present situation required

that the Committee take whatever action might be necessary to

keep the rate of growth of total reserves, credit, and money at

considerably more moderate levels than those prevailing last month.

In February and March the Committee succeeded in tightening, both

in terms of the marginal and of the aggregate measures, and those

tightening moves were wholesome.

He had a suspicion that April

might have unraveled some of the Committee's work, primarily

because of basic weaknesses in its policy criteria.

He believed

the Committee would be on firmer grounds if it observed the

movement of required reserves more closely and accepted a

relatively higher level of net borrowed reserves if required

reserves moved up more rapidly than normal for this time of year.

The approach suggested recently by Mr. Robertson appeared

particularly appropriate in the weeks ahead, Mr. Wayne said.

He

would be prepared to accept the risks of higher rates that such

a course might involve.

He emphasized, however, that he did not

refer to higher ceilings under Regulation Q for he feared that

some banks, including the money market banks, had failed to show

due prudence in shaping their current policies.

As to the directive, alternative C with the amendment

proposed by Mr. Shepardson appeared preferable to Mr. Wayne.

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Mr. Clay reported that business activity in the Tenth

Federal Reserve District was continuing to expand at a rapid rate.

Employment was growing, unemployment was low, and skilled labor

was very scarce.

Employment growth was particularly strong in

defense-oriented industries, such as aircraft, ordnance, and

explosives.

Agriculture was providing a substantial impetus to income

growth in the Tenth District, Mr. Clay said.

Cash receipts from

farm marketings continued well above year-ago levels, and the

District increase was much greater than for the country as a

whole.

Agricultural prospects for the current year in the District

continued distinctly favorable, despite the possibility that the

wheat crop might have suffered severe freeze damage in southcentral

and southwestern Kansas, northwestern Oklahoma, and southeastern

Colorado.

In the commercial banking field, Mr. Clay continued, both

loans and investments at District weekly reporting banks declined

more during the first 4 months of this year than in 1965.

Deposit

experience had been stronger, with demand deposits down only about

half the seasonal decline shown in 1965 but with time deposits

rising more slowly.

At the same time, however, member bank

borrowing had been in larger volume than last year, and reporting

banks had been net purchasers of Federal funds more regularly.

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On the national scene, despite recent developments in the

auto industry and the stock market, the resource-price squeeze

appeared to intensify rather than lessen, and the price inflation

problem was becoming more severe.

Accordingly, Mr. Clay felt that

further restraint was needed on the growing aggregate demand for

goods and services.

desirable.

Additional fiscal restraint would be highly

In fact, that was the action that should be taken, but

that could not be done by the Federal Reserve.

Within the limits

permitted by the maintenance of the present Federal Reserve discount

rate, the Federal Reserve should continue to apply pressure on the

commercial banking system and the financial markets in line with

the current directive's provision for "restricting the growth in

the reserve base, bank credit, and the money supply."

Unless economic pressures did lessen, it appeared highly

doubtful to Mr. Clay that a combination of such a monetary policy

and current fiscal policy would provide the necessary restraint

on inflationary pressures.

Unless additional fiscal policy action

was taken, the Federal Reserve System would probably face the very

difficult decision as to whether credit restraint should be

increased substantially further--balancing the need for restraint

on the growth in aggregate demand for goods and services against

the repercussions on the financial structure from substantial credit

tightening from present interest rate levels.

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for the second paragraph appeared satisfactory to Mr. Clay for

the period immediately ahead.

Mr. Scanlon remarked that, despite some reassuring signs

that the excessive growth of demand might be moderating somewhat in

some sectors, the evidence, over-all, indicated that inflationary

pressures remained dominant and should be subjected to somewhat

greater restraint.

Order backlogs continued to rise.

Most

businesses continued to report that they were paying higher prices

and receiving slower deliveries.

Labor stringencies were reported

from almost all Seventh District centers, large and small.

Virtually

all consumer goods remained in good supply and retail markets

appreared to be competitive although merchants reported that orders

for replacement stock often were at somewhat higher prices and had

to be placed with longer lead time.

Construction projects continued to utilize available

resources fully, Mr. Scanlon said.

In the first quarter, construction

contracts in the Midwest were up 32 per cent from last year, compared

with an 11 per cent rise for the U.S.

All major categories of

construction in the area, except public buildings, showed gains

ranging upward from 14 per cent.

Mr. Scanlon noted that farmers were buying machinery and

equipment at a rapid pace, well above that expected by most

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manufacturers.

Farm land values in the District showed a larger

increase in the first quarter than in any quarter of recent years.

Good farm land was now up about 10 per cent over a year ago, with

increases reported for all District States.

The growth of total loans appeared to Mr. Scanlon to have

slowed in April at District banks, especially at the largest banks

in Chicago and Detroit.

At most other banks expansion continued

at a fairly rapid pace.

Some net repayment of business loans at

the large banks was in keeping with the usual seasonal pattern.

It might reflect a more restrained lending posture on the part of

those banks, but repayment of bank loans by firms that had recently

raised funds in the capital market was also a factor.

All things

considered, the evidence did not suggest any easing of over-all

demands for funds.

Reserve positions of the major Chicago banks had shown

marked improvement over the past month reflecting both loan

reduction and deposit inflows, Mr. Scanlon observed.

In late April

both the number of banks and the amount of borrowing at the discount

window declined, but that now appeared to have been temporary.

The

figures on reserves, money, and credit for April all indicated a

substantial rise in the rate of expansion compared with either

March or the first quarter as a whole.

Part of that rise could be

attributed to temporary factors, seasonal adjustment difficulties,

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and reduction of Treasury deposits to an abnormally low level, as

Mr. Partee had pointed out.

Nevertheless, in his (Mr. Scanlon's)

judgment, under current conditions of resource utilization, recent

rates of expansion in money and credit were clearly too high and

should be reduced.

The recent period illustrated strikingly, Mr. Scanlon said,

that tighter conditions in the money market had not been sufficient

to avoid a sharp acceleration in monetary growth.

Nonborrowed

reserves had been supplied at a rapid rate and increased borrowings

had added further to reserve aggregates.

While some short-term

money rates had increased, other yields were still well below

early-March levels.

It seemed clear that if the Committee was

serious about slowing money and credit expansion to rates more

consistent with the growth of physical capacity to produce goods

and services, and, hence, with stable prices, and given a continua

tion of strong credit demands, it would be necessary to cut back

much more sharply on reserves provided through open market operations.

Such action probably would push interest rates up further and increase

borrowing pressure at the discount window, and it might well

necessitate another discount rate increase.

In Mr. Scanlon's view the large reserve expansion in March

and April resulted in part from the Committee's inability to foresee

the strength of credit demand and continued heavy reliance on free

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reserves and interest rates in setting policy goals and formulating

directives.

Viewed in retrospect, Committee policy might have

been better if total reserves or possibly some other aggregative

reserve measure had been given priority in policy guides and

directives.

He believed the growth rate of total reserves should

be cut back to a rate no greater than, say, 3 per cent, so long as

the economy continued to operate with fairly clear evidence of an

inflationary gap.

As to the directive, Mr. Scanlon was not entirely clear on

the reasons for the use of the term "net reserve availability" in

alternative C and "reserve availability" in alternative B.

But he

believed alternative C as amended by Mr. Shepardson came closest

to the policy he would like to see adopted.

While he would like to avoid an increase in the discount

rate, Mr. Scanlon would not resist such a move at any time it was

evident that the administration of the discount window was being

seriously complicated by the low rate.

Mr. Galusha commented there was little if anything that

needed saying this morning about economic conditions in the Ninth

District.

The District economy continued to grow very much in

the pattern of the national economy.

Recently a few reports had

been received of a rather sharp slowdown during April in the rate

of growth of retail sales.

But he could not at this time be sure

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how general the slowdown was and, in any event, he would not want

to read too much significance into it--any more than he would

want to read too much significance into the much publicized

temporary layoff by General Motors.

The business community was

becoming apprehensive about the pending minimum wage proposals,

which would have a significant impact on wage structures in the

Ninth District.

If there was a problem in the Ninth District, Mr. Galusha

said, it was in the continuing unhappiness of the country bankersan unhappiness which not infrequently found expression in notifica

tion of withdrawal from the System.

The situation was not a good

one and he would urge again that the Board give further consideration

to a reserve requirement "break" for small banks.

It might be, as

he had pointed out at the previous meeting of the Committee, that

now would be a good time to announce an increase in the average

reserve requirement and, in the same breath, a change in the

structure of reserve requirements.

With what might be parochial concern, Mr. Galusha continued,

he was very pleased to see the Board, in its Annual Report,

reiterate its desire for a reserve requirement structure based on

bank size and ask for the power to set reserve requirements for

all insured banks.

be solved.

Possibly that was the way the problem should

Still, some interim relief for small banks would be

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most helpful.

In passing, he would also compliment the Board on

its statement--again, in its Annual Report--on non-par banking.

Would that it had the desired effect, for that was not the least

of the obstacles to the millenium Mr. Mitchell had described in

recent public statements.

It was in part the problem of small banks, mutual savings

banks, and the politically powerful influential savings and loan

associations that made Mr. Galusha think now was a time for

proceeding cautiously in the direction of further monetary

restraint.

Of course, there were additional reasons, domestic

and international--most of which had been mentioned in Committee

meetings at one time or another--for believing that the overly

exuberant economy would be better checked by a tax increase than

by further monetary restraint.

That, it seemed to him, was

ultimately why the Committee should go slowly now.

A dramatic

move toward great restraint--involving increases in discount rates

and Regulation Q ceilings--could sharply reduce the likelihood of

a tax increase.

There might still, though, be room for increase in interest

rates and in the rationing of credit, Mr. Galusha remarked.

There

were indications in the Ninth District, at least, that System

policies were biting deeper.

Curtailment of the Minneapolis Reserve

Bank's discount window had forced the big banks into paying rates

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for funds in the 5 per cent area, and that in turn had a spill

over to their lending policies--there were indications that they

were making efforts to ration credit.

Mr. Galusha believed the Committee's goal, specifically,

should be a modest increase in open market interest rates over

the coming four weeks.

Possibly that could be achieved without a

further increase in net borrowed reserves; but if not, then, in

his opinion, the Desk's target ought to be on the other side of

$300 million.

Perhaps the $350 million figure mentioned by

Mr. Hayes was appropriate.

In sum, Mr. Galusha felt this was a time for applying

gradual further restraint.

"gradual."

And he would underscore the word

Accordingly, he favored alternative B of the draft

directives.

Mr. Swan reported that employment in the Twelfth District

rose further in March, although at a slightly lower rate than in

January and February.

Unemployment edged down one-tenth of a

percentage point to 4.5 per cent.

Aerospace companies again

added substantially to the number of their employees.

In lumber

markets, which had been under considerable pressure recently, new

orders declined in April but with substantial order backlogs prices

held firm.

problems.

Residential construction, however, posed substantial

Housing starts were up slightly in March but great

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concern was being expressed by builders and lenders about shortages

of funds and rapidly rising interest rates, resulting from competing

demands and the reduced availability of funds from savings and loan

associations.

In the four weeks ending April 27, Mr. Swan said, District

weekly reporting banks expanded their outstanding credit sharplyat a much higher rate than in the same period last year.

That

expansion was based on a very substantial increase in both demand

and time deposits.

The time deposit increase was due to a rise in

public deposits; the decline in savings deposits was greater than

the rise in other time deposits of individuals, partnerships, and

corporations.

As a result of the rise in total deposits, District

banks remained in a relatively easy reserve position during April

despite the increase in bank credit.

Banks maintained or increased

their net sales of Federal funds and did not borrow substantially

from the Reserve Bank.

However, that situation might be changing;

in early May Federal funds sales were down somewhat in the District

and there had been a slight increase in borrowings at the discount

window.

As to the national situation, Mr. Swan said he had little

to add to the comments already made regarding the strength in

demand and the price pressures existing.

In terms of policy, he

had felt that the February and March results were not at all

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unsatisfactory, given the unusual situation in January following

the discount rate increase.

As some others,however, he was

disturbed--and somewhat confused--by the April developments.

He

had to say that the discussion this morning had not lessened his

confusion, and he was at a loss as to how to interpret those

developments.

Consequently, he drew some hope from the conclusion

in the blue book that more gradual rates of growth in bank credit

and deposits were likely in May if pressures on banks continued

about as at present.

He joined those who would like to see some

further gradual deepening in net borrowed reserves, perhaps to

the $350 million level, with some recognition at the same time of

developments with respect to total reserves.

He favored alternative C

of the draft directives, both because he thought it was appropriate

in terms of the current situation and because, as a matter of

principle, he thought some account should be taken of total reserves

in the second paragraph of the directive.

He would prefer the

version of alternative C proposed by the staff rather than as

amended by Mr. Shepardson.

Mr. Swan said he would not favor an increase in the discount

rate, if one could be avoided, until it was clear that the action

was following rather than leading market developments.

But he was

not as sanguine as some about the possibility of maintaining the

existing discount rate, given the current levels of the Federal

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funds rate.

Sooner or later high Federal funds rates were likely

to lead to pressures at the discount window that would require the

System to raise the discount rate.

Mr. Irons commented that conditions in the Eleventh District

were somewhat typical of national conditions, with strength apparent

throughout the economy.

Such major indexes as employment, production,

construction, department stores sales, and new car sales were

continuing to move up more or less steadily or were maintaining

high levels.

The employment situation remained tight, with a very

strong demand for labor by the electronic and defense industries.

The most recent data for residential construction showed a little

improvement, but whether that would be lasting or not remained to

be seen; the District had the same problems in the mortgage area

that were being reflected in other parts of the country.

During the past few weeks, Mr. Irons continued, there had

been growing evidence of some firmness at District banks, similar

to the national situation.

Borrowing from the Reserve Bank tended

to increase from time to time, depending on conditions in the

Federal funds market.

Recent city bank borrowing usually was in

the $6-$8 million range and country bank borrowing in the $6-$9

million range, but the total would go up to $50 or $55 million

when some large city banks came in for a day or so.

It was

reasonable to assume that there would be continued pressure placed

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on the discount window by the larger banks if conditions in the

market firmed and the Federal funds rate rose further.

The

larger banks in the District had been net purchasers of Federal

funds recently, with their average weekly purchases running about

$800 to $850 million, and their sales about $200 to $250 million.

Demand deposits and time and savings deposits had both

increased during the past three or four weeks, Mr. Irons noted.

There was a net decline in savings deposits about equal to the

increase in time deposits, possibly indicating a shift of funds

into CD's.

Despite the fact that bank credit was increasing,

bankers said that they were being more selective in granting loans.

Most of the loan increase during the period was not in commercial

and industrial loans but in loans of a financial character and

other types.

On the whole, there was no change in the steady up

ward movement in theeconomic situation in the District, and some

evidence of firmer conditions in banking.

Nationally, Mr. Irons observed, the Committee recognized

that boom conditions were prevailing and that deterioration was

occurring in the balance of payments.

Thosecircumstances pointed

to the need for a firmer and more restrictive policy.

But he

thought the firming should be gradual; there should not be a

crash program, or a drastic change in policy.

Some attention also

should be given to the levels of interest rates and to the pressures

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and stresses in financial markets.

He would like to avoid an

increase in the discount rate as long as possible, but he thought

that if the Committee continued to tighten pressures would increase

for discount rate action as interest rates rose.

Mr. Irons agreed with those who had suggested that it would

be desirable to look to the aggregate reserve figures and not to

net borrowed reserves alone.

One reason for considering aggregate

as well as marginal reserves was that more restraint was exerted

on banks in the course of a transition to a deeper level of net

borrowed reserves than in maintaining that deeper level once it

was achieved.

He personally preferred alternative B for the

directive but would not object to alternative C.

Indeed, there

might be some psychological advantage to alternative C in that

it introduced a reference to required reserves.

Mr. Ellis said that three highlights might serve to

illustrate the taut conditions in the New England economy.

pervasive importance was the tightness in the labor market.

Of

The

March unemployment rate reached 3.5 per cent and insured unemploy

ment continued to decline in April.

In Boston, the Reserve Bank

participated with 36 firms in a group survey of the local labor

market.

In presenting the Bank's budget to its directors

yesterday, he had reported the possibility that the wage

projection incorporated might have been outdated by changes within

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the past two weeks.

Seven of the 36 participating firms had

increased starting rates for inexperienced personnel by $2.00 to

$5.00.

Five of the seven had also raised salary structures 4 to

6 per cent, and all seven had granted general or modified across

the-board forms of salary increases.

Undergirding the general strength, Mr. Ellis continued,

were both high volume operations and sharp expansion rates in the

durable goods industries, particularly those affected by defense

production.

The index measuring the region's electrical machinery

industry in March stood 15 per cent higher than a year ago.

Durable goods producers had reported plans to expand their capital

outlays by 38 per cent this year and to concentrate more on plant

expansion.

In reflection of those trends, Mr. Ellis said, loan expan

sion at District banks had been pervasive and violent if not

explosive--at an annual rate of 19 per cent in the past year and

25 per cent in the last six weeks.

First District banks as a

group had been net buyers in the Federal funds market since last

November.

Country banks had come to the discount window for

amounts running four and five times above year-ago levels.

City

banks had also become more frequent borrowers but were satisfying

most of their reserve needs by borrowing in the markets for

negotiable CD's, Federal funds, and short-term notes.

The bank

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that pushed the Federal funds rate to 5-1/8 per cent last Friday

(May 6) borrowed 207 per cent of its total required reserves in

those markets during April.

The average for eight New York City

banks for the same period was only 202 per cent.

Whichever way the Committee looked, Mr. Ellis said,

there were ominous aspects in the staff analysis presented in the

green book

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prepared for this meeting.

Committee was advised that:

Looking backward, the

(1) a third of the first-quarter GNP

increase represented higher prices; (2) industrial commodity

prices were rising at a rate between 3 and 3.5 per cent and

threatening to block any long-run improvement in the balance of

payments;

(3) labor costs per unit of output in manufacturing had

been edging up; and (4) in spite of longer hours, the real weekly

spendable earnings of factory workers with three dependents had

not increased in the past year.

Still looking backward, Mr. Ellis found that despite the

slight stiffening in reserve availability represented by higher

Federal funds rates and deeper net borrowed reserve positions,

nonborrowed reserves ballooned during April.

In effect, the

Committee lost ground in its long-run objective of moderating the

expansion of total credit and the money supply.

The report, "Current Economic and Financial Conditions,"

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prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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The forward-looking observations, Mr. Ellis said, were equally

ominous:

groups;

(a) unfilled orders continued to rise in all major industry

(b) resurveyed capital spending plans suggested even larger

expansion plans than earlier reported;

(c) defense needs translated

into rising outlays beyond budgeted levels, and Congress was expanding

nondefense spending beyond Administration requests;

(d) the U.S.

balance of payments experience seemed more likely to worsen from the

weaker position in the first quarter than to improve.

Facing those prospects, Mr. Ellis found the arguments for a

tax increase to be overwhelming.

Yet a Presidential request at this

moment for such action might result in a self-defeating general

loosening of the purse strings in subsequent Congressional voting.

Tactics possibly called for delay in requesting a tax increase until

major Congressional actions were complete and Congress sought to

adjourn for campaigning.

On that line of reasoning, if business

conditions remained as inflationary in June as they were now, he would

consider it likely that the President would request and obtain a tax

increase.

In that context, Mr. Ellis said, the central issue of monetary

policy became a choice as to how far to proceed in further tightening

pending a decision on increased taxes.

For the past several meetings,

and especially yesterday, the Boston Bank's directors requested that

Mr. Ellis express in this forum their sense of urgency that monetary

policy was not adequately restrictive in view of lagging fiscal

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restraints.

While agreeing with them in analysis, he had persuaded

them that, in view of the present pressures on savings institutions

a further increase in discount rates, with a subsequent attendant need

to reconcile Regulation Q ceilings, should be postponed until a tax

decision was reached.

Meanwhile, it was appropriate to explore what

leeway remained for continued gradual lessening of reserve availability

in order to achieve the Committee's basic objective of restricting

growth in the reserve base, bank credit, and the money supply.

Experience last month demonstrated that if credit demands swelled

sharply they would overwhelm any modest barrier and reserves would

flood out--as they had in April, at a 17.5 per cent annual rate.

It

was attractive, therefore, to contemplate a directive such as alter

native C under which reserve availability would be somewhat conditioned

by the extent of demand for reserve expansion.

Employing the "phrases of art" identified by Mr. Holland at

the Committee's last meeting, Mr. Ellis remarked, he would define

alternative C to encompass a net borrowed reserve target of $350

million as a floor if reserves continued their sharp expansion; and

he would expect borrowings to consistently exceed $650 million on a

weekly average basis, and the Federal funds rate to ride in the 4-7/8 to

5 per cent range.

Since the use of Treasury bills in reserve adjust

ments had lessened the bill rate seemed less sensitive to reserve

positions, but he would still expect some stiffening of 3-month bill

rates, to 4.75 per cent and higher.

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Mr. Ellis observed that he wished the staff had expressed

alternative C in terms of pressure on bank reserve positions, noting

that Mr. Partee's analysis today had been expressed partly in those

terms.

He (Mr. Ellis) urged the adoption of alternative C, however,

because it called for considering the movements of required reserves

as well as net borrowed reserves.

He would omit the reference to the

Treasury financing because he thought it gave more than the intended

emphasis to even keel considerations.

Mr. Robertson then made the following statement:

Once again the materials presented to us by the staff,

and the comments around the table this morning, describe an

economy that is under even more upward pressure than was

foreseen a month or two ago. While the automobile industry

may be undergoing a bit of an adjustment at the moment, it

is clearly the exception. The general picture is one of high

demand growth, mounting pressure upon labor and plant capacity,

and continued industrial price advance.

This is the kind of situation in which we should be

using monetary policy to generate as much restraint as we

think it is reasonable and prudent to apply. All of us know

this is an easier objective to state in theory than to apply

in practice. We thought we were taking actions to firm up

conditions gradually in March and April--and probably we did

get some firming of bank lending conditions--but at the same

time over-all demand was so strong that bank credit expanded

rapidly and this gave rise to large additional reserve-injecting

operations by the System. The growth in bank loans, investments,

and deposits must be reduced to more modest proportions, and

the very recent signs of slowdown are not enough, in my own

judgment, to assure such a reduction in the absence of further

gradual tightening of bank reserve positions by System open

market operations.

Accordingly, I would direct the Manager to press net

borrowed reserves gradually deeper, beginning as soon as the

current Treasury refunding operation is concluded. In

giving a directive to the Manager, I think we should take

pains to guard against such developments as took place last

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month, when we had much higher rates of expansion in bank

credit and money than we would willingly have sanctioned

ahead of time.

The staff noted that April would see rapid

rates of growth in the reserve and monetary aggregates, but

the growth rates turned out to be even more rapid. Economic

prediction is an art--not quite yet a science--and our staff

has, I believe, developed the art close to its outer limits.

I have only praise for their efforts in the green and blue

books and elsewhere, and hope their efforts continue.

All that being said, the fact remains that if we want

to be sure that growth in credit and money slows from its

recent rate, we should express our wishes more definitely

in the operative second paragraph of the directive. For

instance, although the staff analysis in the blue book notes

that growth in bank credit will slow over the next two months,

I would want the Account Manager himself actively to contribute

to this result if it does not appear that the market will do so.

To help slow down credit growth, I would want to deepen

the net borrowed number gradually by around $25 million a week

so that it would rise from $300 million to $400 million over

the next four weeks. If required reserve growth proves larger

than expected, I would hasten the rise in the net borrowed

reserve number and even let the number rise above $400 million.

On the other hand, if there were a definite weakness in

required reserves, I would let the net reserve position of

banks fall somewhat short of the aforementioned weekly goals.

I realize the Manager will have a difficult time making

the judgments involved in such an instruction. There are

two pieces of advice that might be helpful to him, however;

first, at the moment there is more danger in being too easy

than too tight; and second, if bank credit looks as if it is

rising noticeably above a 6 per cent annual rate, the banks

should be forced to borrow the additional required reserves,

even if borrowings turn out to have risen only temporarily,

unless this pushes net borrowed reserves above $500 million.

I assume that this kind of policy may foster a continued

upward adjustment in bond market rates, and I would not mind

seeing most of the effects of the March-April bond market

rally wiped out in the process. I would also expect that it

would gradually step up pressure in the money market, and I

hope we will not be too deterred by that kind of manifestation

of market restraint either.

I recognize that my net borrowed reserve suggestions

involve driving banks considerably deeper in debt at the dis

count window, and I regard that as part of the process of

restraint. I recognize further that this might trigger

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speculation about a possible discount rate increase, and I

am prepared to face up to such a change eventually if the

circumstances become compelling. What I am not prepared to

countenance is a further increase in the Regulation Q

ceiling on time deposits; indeed, it may only be by holding

the line on Regulation Q that we finally calm down the

bank credit expansion.

It appears to me that alternative C of the draft

directives might accomplish the ends I seek, although

it should be read to permit some flexibility on the

down side of net borrowed reserves as well as the up. The

market virtues of operating with a net reserve target can

thereby be combined with the anti-cyclical virtues of paying

close attention to the related aggregates--which means, in

the current environment, at least seeing that potentially

inflationary credit demands are not fully accommodated.

Mr. Robertson added that he favored the amendment to alternative

C proposed by Mr. Shepardson.

He had no strong view as to whether or

not the reference to the Treasury financing should be deleted.

He

would suggest an amendment to the final sentence of the first paragraph

of the draft directive; in the phrase, "and to help restore reasonable

equilibrium in the country's balance of payments," he would replace

the word "help" with the words "strengthen efforts to."

He suggested

that change because he thought the time had come at which monetary

policy had to take a more active role in the effort to improve the

payments balance.

Chairman Martin said that the views of Committee members did

not seem very far apart today.

note of caution.

He would like, however, to sound a

There was real turbulence in financial markets at

present--perhaps more than generally realized--and recent monetary

policy had been a major factor in bringing it about.

He did not

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think the Committee should be too dissatisfied with monetary policy

because of the recent trends in banking aggregates.

In his judgment,

the Committee should not press too hard in an effort to get more

precise results; it would take time to iron out conditions such as

existed at present in the stock market, at savings and loan associa

tions, with respect to the balance of payments, and with respect to

the current dislocations in the money market.

Although he did not

like the recent banking figures any more than others did, he felt

that patience was needed in getting the results desired.

Over the

weekend he had re-read the Committee's minutes for the period

subsequent to the 1957 reduction in the discount rate.

He noted

that for a long time then the Committee had sought actively to ease,

but the money supply figures had failed to respond.

Now the Committee

was trying to firm, and perhaps it was seeking to make the figures

respond more actively than the course of events would permit.

The

money stream was swollen now, as it had been in the latter part of

1965.

At that time, in his view, conditions in financial markets

had reached the point at which it was almost impossible to navigate;

the prime rate existing then had been a boulder in the stream.

The

flow of funds was better now, but there still were many dislocations.

For example, while according to a recent report the difficulties of

savings and loan associations in the Twelfth District were not as

great as had been feared, they were quite serious in one or two

cases.

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In sum, Chairman Martin said, he thought the Committee should

not press too hard now in the belief that monetary policy alone could

achieve price stability; it was just one important element in the

picture.

Perhaps all members of the Committee--and he included himself

tended to think at times that monetary policy could do more than it

in fact could.

He was not in disagreement with the policy that the

majority favored today, but he hoped that the System would not find

itself in the position of having raised the discount rate after the

crest of the cycle had been passed.

If it did, it was likely to bear

all the blame for subsequent developments.

The System had been through

that experience several times before and he hoped it would not be

repeated.

He thought the System had to brake the inflation in 1957,

and in his judgment the price stability that prevailed from 1961 to

1965 would not have been possible if the earlier inflationary psychol

ogy had persisted.

Nevertheless, the business decline then had been

attributed to the Federal Reserve.

He thought the Committee should

bear that in mind--although he did not suggest that it should shirk

its responsibilities.

Chairman Martin said he did not know what the Administration

would do with respect to fiscal policy.

In his judgment there had

been a good deal of progress in the past six months in public under

standing of the problem of inflation; the current dialogue in the

press about policies to deal with inflation would have been impossible

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6 months ago.

Some real gains had been made, and he would repeat

that the Committee should not press too hard on monetary policy

alone.

The Chairman observed that he was agreeable to either alter

native B or alternative C for the directive.

He would be somewhat

concerned about Mr. Shepardson's proposal that the words "further

gradual" be deleted before "reduction in net reserve availability,"

because he favored a gradual approach.

He thought it was quite

important at this juncture that the Committee not move in an abrupt

way.

Mr. Shepardson said he had not intended to suggest an abrupt

move.

He had taken exception to the word "further" because he did

not think there had been a reduction in reserve availability.

He

proposed deleting the word "gradual" because, as he had noted at

previous meetings, he thought that word had been overemphasized.

Mr. Koch drew attention to the fact that in alternative C

the staff proposed to introduce the word "net" before "reserve

availability."

The phrase could then be taken to refer to net

borrowed reserves, which had been deepened over the past few months.

Mr. Shepardson remarked that he had had total reserve avail

ability in mind in stating that no reduction had occurred,

Mr. Mitchell commented that Mr. Shepardson's criticism of the

word "further" was valid if applied to the Committee's previous

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directive.

He agreed with Mr. Koch, however, that the word did not

pose a problem in alternative C as drafted for this meeting.

Mr. Maisel said that as he understood the sentiment of the

members today the variable with which the Committee was concerned was

total reserves.

The references to "reserve availability" in recent

directives were ambiguous, and he thought the staff had tried to

formulate alternative C in a manner that removed that ambiguity.

Mr. Daane indicated that he was not sure the Committee

intended total reserves to be used as an operational target.

Mr. Hayes said he did not think the Committee could discard

net borrowed reserves as an operational guide.

Granting that total

reserves should be used to the extent practicable, one could not be

sure that the short-run observations of that variable were meaningful.

He asked the Manager whether he thought there would be problems in

operating under the instructions contained in alternative C.

Mr. Holmes said he would note first that except for its final

clause the language of alternative C was close to that of B; he would

read both to call for some deepening of net borrowed reserves, perhaps

to around the $350 million area.

The final clause implied that if

required reserves were higher than seasonally projected the marginal

reserve figure should be deepened further by some amount--Mr. Robertson

would have them go as deep as $500 million.

Present projections indicated

a decline in required reserves over the next few weeks.

Thus, if required

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reserves did not decline along the projected lines, he would understand

alternative C to call for net borrowed reserves deeper than $350 million.

Mr. Daane commented that Mr. Holmes' statement illustrated the

problem he had with alternative C.

The view that a reduction in reserve

availability was called for was widely held today, but if the Committee

required the Manager to deepen net borrowed reserves below $350 million

it inevitably would cause a considerable readjustment in market rates

that could lead to a discount rate change.

He had not suggested any

particular figure as a target for operations, and he thought the

Committee had to be wary of the danger of precipitating the kind of

wholesale market adjustment that he did not think was called for at

present.

Chairman Martin then said he wished to make his position clear

with respect to a discount rate increase.

He thought that if such an

action were to be taken it should follow market developments and not be

forced by the Committee.

That was why he felt the Committee should not

press too hard in deepening the net borrowed reserve figures, and that

conditions should be allowed to tighten gradually.

Mr. Mitchell agreed with the Chairman but felt nevertheless that

the recent experience with total bank credit and the money supply was

somewhat disheartening.

If the staff projections should prove faulty

he thought the Manager should move in the direction suggested by

Mr. Robertson.

He would rather not see a discount rate increase, but

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would prefer such an increase to a repetition of the March-April

developments.

Mr. Maisel said there seemed to be a conflict today between

the members who thought that the Committee had set money market rates

as its primary goal, and those who thought that the goal had been

formulated in terms of total reserves.

Members in the two groups had

different views of the monetary policy that would be appropriate for

the next period.

The problem, as he saw it, was that in the past five

months the Committee had used money market conditions as a sub-goal,

with the result that there had been a substantial expansion in bank

credit.

Chairman Martin thought that Mr. Maisel's observation involved

an element of judgment.

He did not feel there was any difference

between his own position and Mr. Maisel's except with respect to timing

In his opinion considerations of cost and availability of money could

not be kept separate indefinitely; the question was how moves should

be timed.

Personally he did not feel that he had had a money market

sub-goal in mind, but different people measured things differently.

Mr. Hayes said he would inject a cautionary note on the subject

of the sensitivity of market conditions.

He did not believe the Com

mittee could completely ignore the effects of its actions on the market

He would remind the members that there had been occasions, even in the

past year or two, when conditions in the market had suddenly become

rather critical.

It was important that the Committee do what it could

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to prevent disorderly conditions.

Perhaps the matter was a side

issue, but the members should not lose sight of the possibility of

rapid market disruption.

To him that argued for acting gradually

rather than precipitously.

Mr. Brimmer agreed with Mr. Hayes, and said he would not

favor deleting the word "gradual" from the second paragraph of the

directive.

He had been inclined toward alternative B but would be

willing to accept alternative C provided that the word "gradual"

was retained.

He also would favor using the word "net" before

"reserve availability," and on that basis he would consider it

appropriate to retain "further" since there had been a deepening of

net borrowed reserves.

Chairman Martin said he thought alternatives B and C as

drafted by the staff were substantially the same from the standpoint

of the Manager's operations.

He wondered, however, whether the

amendment to C suggested by Mr. Shepardson would not require the

Manager to deepen net borrowed reserves below $350 million.

Mr. Holmes observed that most of those favoring alternative B

seemed to be more concerned about possible disruption in financial

market conditions, while those who favored C were more concerned

about the movements in the aggregate statistics.

That appeared to

be one significant difference between the two groups, although neither

of the draft alternatives mentioned market conditions specifically.

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Mr. Robertson remarked that no one around the table wanted

to disrupt the market; what the majority desired was a gradual but

steady reduction in the availability of reserves.

It should never

be assumed that the Committee would overlook the possibility of

disruption in market conditions.

That possibility was a reason for

the degree of latitude that would be given to the Manager in instruc

tions of the type he (Mr. Robertson) proposed.

At the same time, he

thought that the rate at which reserve availability was being reduced

should be speeded up, although it should still be gradual.

Mr. Hickman said that he would endorse Mr. Robertson's statemen

To summarize his own position briefly, he favored alternative C for the

directive, retaining the word "gradual"; he would be very much concerne

about any actions that disrupted the money market; he would want attent

paid to aggregate reserve availability as well as to net borrowed

reserves; and he would not want to see interest rates rise so high that

the discount rate would have to be increased immediately.

The Chairman commented that he thought Mr. Robertson had made

the point well--no one wanted to disrupt the market.

How to achieve

the results the Committee desired was a problem that had to be left to

the Manager.

Mr. Daane observed that he would be concerned about a deepening

of net borrowed reserves beyond the $350 million level, an area which

he thought might be a danger zone.

alternative B for the directive.

As he had indicated, he would prefe

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Mr. Hayes said that he also would prefer alternative B.

If

the members considered the language calling for "some further gradual

reduction in reserve availability" to be too mild, the word "some"

might be deleted.

Mr. Shepardson commented that while a net borrowed reserve

target might be meaningful in a period of transition to a deeper

target level, to hold net borrowed reserves at any particular level

would mean meeting whatever demands for reserves arose and thus would

not necessarily imply restraint.

The Committee had been applying

some restraint recently, but the movement had been overly gradual

relative to the expansion in demands, and for that reason the Committee

had failed to accomplish its objectives.

Chairman Martin commented that no one could say with assurance

how strong the demand for reserves would be in the coming period.

Mr. Shepardson agreed.

He added, however, that he thought

the additional clause of alternative C, calling for a greater reduction

in net reserve availability if growth in required reserve did not

moderate substantially, was intended to meet that problem.

The Committee then turned to the suggestions that had been made

regarding revisions in the draft directive language submitted by the

staff.

After further discussion, it was agreed that the reference to

the Treasury financing should be retained and that Mr. Robertson's

suggested revision of the phrase relating to the balance of payments

in the last sentence of the first paragraph should be adopted.

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-103Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee,

to execute transactions in the System

Account in accordance with the following

current economic policy directive:

The economic and financial developments reviewed at

this meeting indicate that the domestic economy is expanding

vigorously, with industrial prices continuing to rise and

credit demands remaining strong. Our international pay

ments continue in deficit.

In this situation, it is the

Federal Open Market Committee's policy to resist inflationary

pressures and to strengthen efforts to restore reasonable

equilibrium in the country's balance of payments, by

restricting the growth in the reserve base, bank credit,

and the money supply.

To implement this policy, while taking into account

the current Treasury financing, System open market opera

tions until the next meeting of the Committee shall be

conducted with a view to attaining some further gradual

reduction in net reserve availability, and a greater

reduction if growth in required reserves does not moderate

substantially.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would be

held on Tuesday, June 7, 1966, at 9:30 a.m.

The meeting then adjourned.

Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

May 9, 1966

Drafts of Current Economic Policy Directive for Consideration by the

Federal Open Market Committee at its Meeting on May 10, 1966

First paragraph

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting indicate that the domestic economy is expanding vigorously,

w: h industrial prices continuing to rise and credit demands

remaining strong. Our international payments continue in deficit.

In this situation, it is the Federal Open Market Committee's policy

to resist inflationary pressures and to help restore reasonable

equilibrium in the country's balance of payments, by restricting

the growth in the reserve base, bank credit, and the money supply.

Second paragraph

Alternative A (preserving about the current degree of firmness)

To implement this policy, while taking into account the

current Treasury financing, System open market operations until the

next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a view to

maintaining firm conditions in the money market and continuing to

exert pressure on bank reserve positions.

Alternative B (continued gradual firming)

To implement this policy, System open market operations

until the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a

view to attaining some further gradual reduction in reserve availa

bility, while taking into account the current Treasury financing.

Alternative C (degree of firming conditioned by movement in required

reserves)

To implement this policy, while taking into account the

current Treasury financing, System open market operations until the

next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a view to

attaining some further gradual reduction in net reserve availa

bility, and a greater reduction if growth in required reserves

does not moderate substantially.

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  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1966},
  month = {May},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19660510},
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