fomc minutes · August 22, 1966

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held

in the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

System in Washington, D. C.,

on Tuesday, August 23, 1966, at

11:30 a.m.1/

PRESENT:

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Mr.

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Bopp

Brimmer

Clay

Daane

Hickman

Irons

Maisel

Mitchell

Robertson2/

Shepardson

Messrs. Wayne, Scanlon, Francis, and Swan, Alternate

Members of the Federal Open Market Committee

Messrs. Ellis, Patterson, and Galusha, Presidents of

the Federal Reserve Banks of Boston, Atlanta,

and Minneapolis, respectively

Mr. Holland, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Molony, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hexter, Assistant General Counsel

Mr. Brill, Economist

Messrs. Garvy, Green, Mann, Partee, Tow, and

Young, Associate Economists

Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open Market

Account

Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board

of Governors

Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board of Governors

1/ This meeting was preceded by a joint meeting of the Board and

the Reserve Bank Presidents to discuss certain proposals regarding

discount administration. Copies of the minutes of the joint

meeting have been placed in the Board's files.

2/ Withdrew from meeting at point indicated in minutes.

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Mr. Garfield, Adviser, Division of Research

and Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Reynolds, Adviser, Division of

International Finance, Board of Governors

Mr. Gramley, Associate Adviser, Division of

Research and Statistics, Board of Governors

Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

Mr. Bernard, Economist, Government Finance

Section, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Furth, Consultant, Board of Governors

Mr. Strothman, First Vice President, Federal

Reserve Bank of Minneapolis

Messrs. Taylor, Baughman, Jones, and Craven,

Vice Presidents of the Federal Reserve

Banks of Atlanta, Chicago, St. Louis, and

San Francisco, respectively

Mr. Monhollon, Assistant Vice President,

Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond

Mr. Deming, Manager, Securities Department,

Federal Reserve Bank of New York

Messrs. Arena and Rothwell, Economists, Federal

Reserve Banks of Boston and Philadelphia,

respectively

Upon motion duly made and seconded, and

by unanimous vote, the minutes of the meeting

of the Federal Open Market Committee held on

July 26, 1966, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the

members of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the

System Open Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions

and on Open Market Account and Treasury operations in foreign

currencies for the period July 26 through August 17, 1966, and a

supplemental report for August 18 through 22, 1966.

Copies of

these reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

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In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. Coombs

said that the gold stock was being reduced by $75 million today

in order to replenish the Stabilization Fund, which had been hit

by a French gold order of $145 million.

On the London gold market,

recurrent buying pressure had now reduced resources of the gold

pool to $76 million, representing a drain of $236 million since

the first of the year.

What he found most ominous was the large

suppressed demand for gold.

Such demand had been suppressed by

the very tight money conditions throughout the world, but it could

break through into the market if there was any serious disruption

in the circle of parities.

At the time of the previous meeting of the Committee,

Mr. Coombs recalled, the fate of sterling was hanging in the

balance. If a collapse had occurred, the System probably would

have been struggling today to halt a speculative onslaught

against the dollar.

However, a number of acute uncertainties

present at the time of the previous meeting--the risk of a

breakdown of the Wilson Cabinet, the risk that Chancellor Callaghan

would fail to support the wage-price freeze, and the risk that the

trade unions would revolt--had all receded, at least for the time

being.

The British program was about as drastic as could have

been expected, and it should soon begin to bite.

Nevertheless,

the general atmosphere in the exchange market remained almost as

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despondent as before; everyone who could stay short of sterling

continued to do so.

In that atmosphere, sterling remained highly

vulnerable to any new setback, and selling pressures had resumed

during the past few days, perhaps reflecting some speculation

associated with the forthcoming Fund-Bank annual meetings.

On

the other hand, if something could be done to trigger a shift in

expectations, and if the enormous short position in sterling that

had been built up over the past few months could be exploited, the

situation might turn around.

During July, Mr. Coombs continued, the British ran a

deficit of $1,120 million, of which $1,050 million was covered by

central bank and other assistance.

They chose at month-end to show

a reserve reduction of only $70 million.

That report was greeted

with derision in the market, but the market also took the report

as a sign that the British apparently still had plenty of credit

resources at their command and sterling actually improved a little

after the figures were announced.

To cover the total deficit the

Bank of England made a three-month drawing of $100 million on the

Federal Reserve swap line; it drew another $100 million on the

Bankfor International Settlements, and $130 million on the sterling

balance credit package negotiated at Basle last June.

In addition

the Federal Reserve and the Treasury supplied $145 million through

purchases of guaranteed sterling.

Finally, at month-end the

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Federal Reserve and the Treasury supplied $400 million of over

night credit, and an additional $175 million of such overnight

credits were obtained from four other central banks.

Of that

total of $1,050 million of credit assistance, the British repaid

$575 million on August 1, so in effect they began the month of

August facing a deficit of $575 million.

So far this month they

had suffered sizable further losses, which by month-end might

easily come to $400 million.

Perhaps half of that amount, i.e.

$200 million, might be covered by further drawings upon the

sterling balance package, and they might want to cover the bulk

of the remaining $200 million by further three-month drawings on

the System swap line, under which $250 million was already

outstanding.

Reverting to the total of $575 million of overnight money

provided at the end of July by the Treasury, the Federal Reserve,

and four foreign central banks, Mr. Coombs said he could see no

alternative but to repeat that operation at the end of August.

He

would hope that the $175 million obtained at the end of July from

four foreign central banks would again be available.

If August 31

fell on any other day but Wednesday, he would also have recommended

at this meeting that the Federal Reserve join with the Treasury in

overnight credits of $200 million from each agency.

But since an

overnight credit extended by the System on a Wednesday would show

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up dollar for dollar in the "other assets" item in the weekly

statement, it had seemed to him preferable to recommend to the

Treasury that they take over the entire $400 million of overnight

money.

The Treasury had agreed to do so.

What was foreseeable,

as far as the System was concerned, between now and the end of the

month was a possible drawing by the British of $100, or even

$150 million, on the Federal Reserve swap line on a 3-month basis.

Mr. Coombs also mentioned that the System Account yesterday

bought $250 million of lire from the Treasury, which had acquired

the lire in a special borrowing from the International Monetary Fund.

Of the amount purchased, $225 million had been used to pay off the

outstanding drawings under the swap line with the Bank of Italy.

In effect, the Treasury had provided the System with a backstop

for swap drawings which, in the case of Italy, were threatening

to run on too long.

He would hope that was a precedent for opera

tions in other currencies.

There was now open access to the Fund,

through the technique developed in the case of lire, and that should

help to relieve the worries Committee members and the Account

Management had felt about getting involved in swap drawings that

might go on too long.

The remaining $25 million of lire obtained

from the Treasury was used to pay down the System's forward commit

ment to the Bank for International Settlements, totaling $40 million,

to deliver lire for sterling.

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Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the System open market transactions in

foreign currencies during the period

July 26 through August 22, 1966, were

approved, ratified, and confirmed.

Mr. Coombs noted that the $100 million standby swap arrange

ment with the Netherlands Bank, having a term of three months, expired

September 15, 1966.

He recommended renewal for another three-month

period.

Renewal of the standby swap with

the Netherlands Bank was approved.

Mr. Coombs then commented on his memorandum dated August 18,

1966, on sterling and the gold market, a copy of which has been

placed in the Committee's files.

In that memorandum, he recalled,

he had pointed to the risk of a new crisis in either sterling or

the gold market, or both, which could be triggered by speculation

about a devaluation of sterling during the course of the annual

Fund and Bank meetings.

Those meetings often stimulated speculation

about changes in parities, and this year such speculation probably

would focus on sterling.

Since the memorandum was prepared, the

risk had, in his judgment, become more imminent and more menacing.

In fact, he was beginning to think there might be some serious

trouble immediately following the publication on September 2 of

the British reserve figures for August.

Earlier the Bank of England

had been hopeful that through market swaps and similar arrangements

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it might be able to show a small gain for the month and to indicate

simultaneously that no additional recourse to central bank credit

had been made during the month.

They would then have reported a

true figure, and that could have had a useful effect in tilting

the balance of expectations in favor of sterling.

But the way things looked now, Mr. Coombs said, on

September 2 the British would have to announce either a reduction

of reserves, an acknowledgment of further recourse to central bank

credit, or both.

The market reaction to such an announcement,

coming as it would 40 days after the new policy package was

announced on July 20, might well set off a new burst of selling,

which undoubtedly would be aggravated by speculative talk associated

with the Fund and Bank meetings.

As the Committee could see from

the figures he had quoted, the British had been utilizing their

credits at a rapid clip, and it might not take much longer to run

through all of them.

If

a final effort was to be made to defend

not only sterling but, more particularly, the dollar, through

enlarging the swap network, he thought it was necessary to begin

moving right away.

Mr. Coombs said he would like to make one point clear:

it

was quite true that the immediate reason for suggesting a massive

increase in the swap network was the speculative pressure on sterling,

but the basic reason was to avoid the pressure on the dollar that

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would result from a sudden collapse of sterling.

The dollar would

become the target if sterling were to collapse, and the pressure

would be reinforced by the probability of a breakout on the

London gold market.

If sterling did go down, the System would

have already in place the additional borrowing facilities with the

continental central banks that would be indispensable to a success

ful defense of the dollar.

Of course, there was the possibility

of last-minute negotiations, but such negotiations during the past

few years had involved finding the right people on hand at the

time they were needed; the next time they might not be there.

In

summary, whether sterling stood or fell, he saw an urgent need for

swap line increases of the kinds suggested in his memorandum.

There was admittedly a risk, Mr. Coombs added, that such

a major reinforcement of the swap lines might suggest a spirit of

desperation, and thus alarm the market further.

However, that had

not been the market reaction to other recent announcements of

central bank credit arrangements.

Those announcements had invar

iably been received as evidence of the determination of the central

banks to act together in defense against speculative pressures.

At

present the market was aware of the virtual breakdown of the Group

of Ten negotiations looking toward the creation of additional

reserve assets.

It was aware of the pressure on sterling and the

situation with respect to Vietnam.

There was a growing feeling

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that the whole system of international financial solidarity was

beginning to come apart.

Announcement of a new large effort

demonstrating to the market that it was not coming apart--in fact

was being strengthened--should do a lot to change that psychology.

The greater risk, Mr. Coombs said, was that a new package

of credit facilities might suggest to the market that the existing

facilities had been virtually exhausted.

But that risk could

readily be averted if all outstanding drawings under the swap

network were reported as of the end of August.

It would be highly

useful, in the event of an increase in the British swap line, for

the British to publish exactly what they owed under it.

That

would make it clear to the market that not only were those credit

facilities being increased but that a large unexpended balance was

available for intervention.

In summary, Mr. Coombs said, he thought there was the clear

danger of a breakdown of the international financial system within

the next month or 6 weeks.

He saw very little that the Group of

Ten could do to stop it; their negotiations had reached an impasse.

The U.S. Treasury was not in a position to do a great deal about

it.

The Stabilization Fund had only limited amounts of money and

the Treasury was set against providing medium-term credit through

the Export-Import Bank.

Open Market Committee.

The burden therefore fell directly on the

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Mr. Hayes, after stressing the highly confidential nature

of the subject, noted that in the past few weeks there had been

discussions by a Governmental committee centering in the Treasury

as to the type of emergency that might develop and the part that

the swap arrangements might play in dealing with it.

Mr. Daane

had attended those meetings, and Mr. Hayes asked him to comment.

Mr. Daane said that the particular group (usually called

the Deming Committee) was set up in response to a directive from

the President in June 1965.

The main concern of the group was the

international monetary reform question and the whole program of

the Group of Ten.

However, the President also requested that this

group keep under surveillance the sterling problem, then clearly

developing, which eventuated in the September assistance package.

At intervals, whenever the British situation seemed to be partic

ularly difficult, the committee had taken a look at the various

possible approaches.

In connection with that, the Secretary of

the Treasury had in the past requested Mr. Coombs and Mr. Hayes to

come down and discuss with the group and with him the question of

various alternatives.

A couple of weeks ago the same request was

made of Mr. Coombs with respect to a question from the Treasury

side as to whether there were ways of preventing or avoiding an

emergency that could, as Mr. Coombs had noted, react upon the

dollar as well.

In response, Mr. Coombs had pointed up the

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possibility of increasing the swap lines, always making clear,

however, that that particular mechanism was the responsibility of

the Open Market Committee.

The interagency group was not entirely

of one mind, but he (Mr. Daane) thought the real differences were

more in terms of timing and technique than substance.

The Treasury

seemed to lean toward Mr. Coombs' suggestion as a most feasible

and desirable approach.

There was some feeling within the group

that it might be preferable to attempt to put together a more

direct package of assistance, but he thought it was fair to say

that the Treasury view, shared by Mr. Coombs and himself, was that

it would be unrealistic to think of that sort of credit in any

major magnitude being arranged under current circumstances.

In

general, the principal difference in views turned on whether one

could better put together a larger swap package, and get the kind

of psychological boost that could come from it, now or after an

emergency had actually developed.

There was some feeling that

perhaps the package could be put together more readily after an

emergency had developed than in advance.

There was also some

feeling that putting together such a package would relieve some of

the continentals from direct assistance to sterling.

That more or

less countered an alternative approach favored by some, which

would be to wait for the emergency, go on unilaterally, and then

turn to the continentals for reciprocity.

In any event, no

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clear-cut Administration view had evolved from those discussions.

As he had said, he thought the differences involved mainly timing

and technique, but it was clear to him that the Treasury was

leaning heavily toward the view that the best way of proceeding

was along the lines suggested in Mr. Coombs' memorandum.

Mr. Daane added there was one further difference of view.

Some of the group felt that the market would get a psychological

boost, but there was some feeling that announcement of an increase

in the swap lines might have a perverse effect, for reasons

Mr. Coombs had discussed.

Mr. Daane stressed that the committee

operated on a confidential basis and that its deliberations should

be held in close confidence.

In response to a question as to his personal view, Mr. Daane

said he felt strongly that Mr. Coombs had outlined the best proce

dure under current and foreseeable circumstances.

He was highly

skeptical, from his contacts with central bankers in the Group of

Ten sessions and otherwise, that it was realistic to expect them

to put up any substantial money directly.

He thought the existence

of this backlog of credit lines would prove reassuring to the

market.

In his judgment, it would be inadvisable to wait for an

emergency to develop and then go hat in hand to the continentals.

If the suggested course was followed, there was a good chance of

forestalling such an emergency.

Aside from simply reassuring the

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market, the System would acquire a right to currencies that could

be useful in dealing with any dollar movements that would constitute

a real threat to the status of the dollar.

Mr. Hayes remarked that it was clear to him that this was

one of the most crucial issues the Committee had had to face in

some time.

It warranted full discussion.

In his own view, there

was no workable alternative to the type of program that had been

set forth unless the Committee wanted to take the risk that all of

the past efforts to preserve sterling parity would come to naught,

with all that could mean for the dollar and the financial structure

that had been built up in the postwar years.

The idea of a direct

multilateral package of assistance was something that he had

discussed informally from time to time with various influential

people on the continent, and he did not think it could be worked

out.

In a discussion last week the Governor of the Bank of England

indicated that he was of the same opinion.

That was an important

factor, because obviously no one would want to seek a multilateral

package unless the British wanted to obtain it.

Mr. Hayes also stressed that the great merit in the scheme

proposed was that it would provide important new protection for

the dollar whatever happened to sterling.

The pressure on the gold

market and the continuing serious U.S. balance of payments problem

made it important to do everything possible to reinforce the

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defense of the dollar.

It went without saying, of course, that

the Committee would not want to pursue the Coombs' proposal, or

anything else of the kind, without the full blessing of the

Treasury.

The Committee had followed that policy since the

inception of its foreign currency operations.

Mr. Hayes also said that he had discussed the matter with

Secretary Fowler and Under Secretary Deming, both of whom were

favorably disposed toward the program, although the Secretary

indicated that he was not in a position at the moment to give a

formal Treasury approval.

Over the weekend he (Mr. Hayes) had

also talked briefly with Chairman Martin about the proposal.

The

Chairman had authorized Mr. Hayes to tell the Committee that,

while he obviously had not had an opportunity to consider all of

the details, he was in sympathy with the basic program objectives

and felt it desirable to make the effort to prevent what could be

a disintegration of the present financial system.

The Treasury

had indicated that it hoped the Committee would have a full discus

sion today and would be prepared to go ahead with the program on

short notice if and when final Administration clearance was obtained,

which might be a matter of weeks, days, or hours.

Mr. Robertson stated that he had talked to the Secretary

this morning about the matter.

The Secretary was inclined to

favor the approach and hoped the Committee would approve the use

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of the particular instrument, subject to action being triggered

by notice from the Secretary to the Chairman or Acting Chairman

of the Board of Governors, so that if it was necessary to move

it would be possible to move fast, without a need to reassemble

the Committee.

Mr. Hickman asked whether there had been any indication

of the attitude of the major European central banks, and Mr. Coombs

expressed the view that the attitude of the Bank of Italy would

probably be favorable.

In the case of the Bundesbank, as the

Committee would recall, several approaches had been made to them

over the past year about the possibility of increasing the swap

line to $500 million.

He had not been able to determine what was

blocking those efforts, but he thought the Group of Ten delibera

tions may have been a factor.1/

Mr. Mitchell asked about the role of the IMF in such a

situation, and Mr. Coombs replied that its main role was that of

a fall-back to provide medium-term credit.

there were two important limitations.

In the present situation

First, so far as the British

were concerned, their drawing rights were pretty well used up.

Mr. Mitchell asked if there was any provision for emergency assist

ance, and Mr. Coombs said he did not believe so; none had been

1/ Two sentences have been deleted at this point for one of the

reasons cited in the preface. The deleted material reported further

comments by Mr. Coombs on the subject under discussion.

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granted to date.

The second difficulty about the Fund, he added,

lay in its slow-moving machinery, which in the process of turning

over gave wide advertisement to the problems under consideration.

An advantage of the swap network lay in the ability to move fast.

It could absorb day-to-day pressures, and most important of all

was the impression it gave to the market of central bankers

having a common interest in maintaining the present parity system

and being prepared to put up money to support it.

Mr. Mitchell remarked that from Mr. Coombs' document and

comments he gathered that the contingency involved was the

possible devaluation of sterling; without that contingency there

would be no need to expand the swap network.

Mr. Coombs replied

that nothing, so far as the defense of the dollar was concerned,

worried him more than a breakout in the gold market, which could

be triggered by a devaluation of sterling or by other causes.

Mr. Mitchell suggested that enlarging the swap network on

a crash basis might stir up a great deal more anxiety than would

be desirable.

He wondered whether it might not be better to go

about the process more deliberately, perhaps on occasions when

swap lines came up for renewal, and take the chance that some action

on an emergency basis might be necessary.

Mr. Mitchell noted that a serious domestic crisis might be

impending.

If on top of that a broad effort was undertaken to

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rescue sterling from its present difficult position, the combina

tion of problems might be more than could reasonably be handled.

Mr. Coombs expressed agreement on the domestic side and

said that was the foundation of his suggested approach on the

international side.

A breakdown on the international financial

sphere could not be afforded; and if nothing was done, such a

breakdown was likely to occur.

Mr. Mitchell then raised the question whether the point

had not been reached where "papering-over" operations should be

stopped.

Mr. Hayes replied that that would almost amount to saying

that one was willing to throw the door open to "every man for him

self" in the international financial field.

Mr. Mitchell commented that a large package of credits

for the British already existed.

further.

He was not against enlarging it

However, if the continental central banks did not go

along, other efforts were likely to be ineffectual.

Mr. Coombs noted, in reply, that the lines of credit now

being extended to the U.K. by the continental central banks came

to $1.1 billion, or roughly equivalent to what the U.S. was

putting up.

On the matter of timing, Mr. Hayes said that if the Committee

were in a position to proceed deliberately, that might be well and

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good.

Whether or not that would have a better effect psycholog

ically, he did not know.

He was inclined to think that announcement

of a simultaneous massive increase of the swap lines was more likely

to make a favorable impression, but in any event the time element

did not permit the deliberate approach.

Mr. Daane, stressing the confidentiality of the observation,

said that within the Government there were two assumptions.

The

first was that a likelihood existed of a major crisis in September,

and the second was that in the went of such a crisis the U.S. would

do something with respect to it in terms of providing financial

resources, unilaterally if necessary.

It really came down to the

question of how best to proceed; whether the U.S. would be in a

better position to meet the situation if the enlarged swap network

was put in place now.

Mr. Coombs commented that if he had been in a position to

negotiate gradual increases in the swap network, with periodic

announcements, that might have been the best way.

nity for that had passed.

But the opportu

Even though there was a risk of backfire

from announcement of a package of large swap increases, the

alternative was so bad that he thought it necessary to take a

chance.

Mr. Bopp noted that only a short while ago negotiations

with the Bundesbank for a more modest increase than now envisaged

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had been unsuccessful.

Mr. Coombs commented that the next renewal

of the swap agreement with the Bundesbank would not occur until

February 1967, and that would be too late to attempt to negotiate

an increase.

Mr. Ellis referred to the extremely large short positions

in sterling and the question whether something could be done to

turn the situation around.

He asked whether an announcement of

enlargement of the swap lines would be likely to have an effect

on the short positions.

Mr. Coombs replied that he would hope that it would help

to turn things around.

What the market feared at present was that

the British credit resources were almost gone, and that no more

would be forthcoming.

Mr. Ellis noted that the memorandum also referred to the

possibility of negotiating an enlargement of the gold pool, and

Mr. Coombs replied he had been working on that for the past month

or six weeks.

He believed that the Germans and Italians would

agree to increases in their shares sufficient to expand the pool's

resources by $100 million.

He had not approached anyone else, but

if the Germans and Italians agreed, others probably would go along.

Then it would be possible to continue to intervene for a while

longer in the gold market.

Mr. Ellis inquired whether the possible backlash effect of

a failure to negotiate a simultaneous doubling of several major

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swap lines should not be taken into account, and Mr. Coombs said

he would contemplate negotiating with the Germans first.

If the

Germans were not prepared to go along, he might suggest calling a

halt at that point.

He thought he would know after contacting no

more than one or two central banks whether the plan could be

negotiated or not.

Therefore, the risk of a leak should not be

too great.

Mr. Ellis noted that the memorandum indicated that no

approach to the French was contemplated, and Mr. Coombs said the

swap line with the French was useless.

The only purpose in contin

uing the swap line was to symbolize some continuing link between

the Bank of France and the Federal Reserve, and to avoid an overt

disruption of relationships which might lead to market distrubances.

Mr. Shepardson noted that a memorandum from Mr. Furth dated

August 17, 1966, a copy of which has been placed in the files of

the Committee, contained an alternative suggestion for dealing with

the British situation.

Mr. Coombs' proposal would involve a

straight increase in the swap line, while Mr. Furth had suggested

certain possible offsets to such an increase.

Mr. Coombs expressed the view that the market effect of a

swap-line increase would be negated if any of the other credit

arrangements were to be canceled out.

He added that some of them

were not actually available to the British at the present time,

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for example, the Export-Import Bank line.

As to canceling the

September 1965 package, a considerable amount of money had in fact

already been committed under that authorization.

main objective was to improve confidence.

He thought the

If the market received

the impression that the central banks were standing back of the

British program, it might be hoped that the British would not have

to draw further on the credits available to them.

Otherwise they

might have to draw all that was left, and that would add up to a

tremendous amount of short-term debt.

Mr. Shepardson asked Mr. Daane whether, in the discussions

of the interagency Government group, there was indication of further

effort on the part of the Administration in regard to dealing with

the U.S. balance of payments problem.

Mr. Daane noted that, as Mr. Coombs had pointed out,

consummation of the increased swap lines would put this country

in a stronger position in case there was any speculative ricocheting

against the dollar.

If the outflow of dollars continued, it would

clearly have an implication there also.

But he did not think there

had been any real linkage of the two problems in the discussions.

That did not mean, of course, that the Government was saying there

was no further problem on the U.S. balance of payments.

They were

working, and would be continuing to work, on a program to improve

the balance of payments situation.

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Mr. Coombs commented that it was not known what the

Administration would or would not do on the balance of payments

side if dollars flowed out and it was necessary to draw on the

swap lines to mop them up.

The most the Committee could do was

to make every effort to be sure that the System did not get

locked in on swap drawings.

An avenue had now been opened up for

the Treasury to go to the Fund for help.

If, for example, the

System drew guilders in order to forestall a loss of gold, the

Treasury acquired some responsibility to take the System out if

the drawings went on for too long, by going to the Fund.

Mr. Brimmer commented that he had been participating in

some of the discussions in Washington about the balance of payments

situation.

programs.

Some effort was being made to look beyond ad hoc

However, those possibilities were still under considera

tion at a secondary level.

Some people were raising questions

about the longer-run viability of the Department of Commerce program

on direct investments.

Some people were talking about taxes, but

that had not gotten any blessing one way or another.

There was

also some feeling that the question of tourism should be looked

into, along with the deployment of troops on the European Continent.

Likewise, there had been some discussion of the use of swaps, the

Group of Ten negotiations, and other matters.

Some of the differences

of opinion seemed to reflect variations in the basic interests of

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people participating in the discussions and the agencies they

represented.

That helped, he thought, to explain the differing

views on how to deal with the balance of payments problem.

In

any event, no new program had as yet come up to the Cabinet

Committee on the Balance of Payments.

Mr. Clay said it seemed to him that the fundamental dif

ference between the present proposal and other papering-over

operations was that on this occasion the British had taken definite

steps of a fundamental nature to correct their basic problem.

If

their internal political situation permitted them to persevere,

the new program should bring about some correction of the situation.

The papering-over technique was giving them time to achieve results

from the basic steps taken.

As to the papering-over of the U.S.

problem, he thought whoever was talking with Administration

people should emphasize that there must be a fundamental program

for dealing with the balance of payments problem.

a part of the package.

That should be

It should be emphasized that the objective

was not just to save the pound but to give the dollar more time

and to shore up the foundations of the British situation.

Mr. Clay noted that the Coombs' proposal would involve

increasing the swap lines to a maximum aggregate amount of $5.2

billion.

He asked what the System's financial risk would be if

sterling should fall.

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Mr. Coombs said that first of all there would be the

financial risk involved in the credits extended to the British

under the swap arrangement.

Last fall there had been some basic

discussions with the Bank of England and the Chancellor of the

Exchequer.

The result was an understanding that a banking

obligation of the Bank of England was involved and that it would

have to be paid off if that took every dollar of their reserves.

They still had more than $3 billion of reserves plus the remainder

of their securities portfolio.

So if sterling went down, and they

owed the System $600 or $700 million, the System should be able to

get its money back.

In event of a devaluation of sterling, Mr. Coombs said,

the French might move quickly to parallel the British action.

Scandinavians and others might also move.

The

So there could be a

crumbling of the parity system around the world.

Talk of an

increase in the price of gold and a new set of parities would

generate a drive against the dollar.

Foreigners might pull money

back from the U.S., including money in the stock market, or

increase their demands on the gold market.

be a direct challenge to the dollar.

Here again there would

The dollar would be under

tremendous pressure if sterling went down, and the best hope was

to work out some clear understandings with the countries that it

was felt could be relied upon to develop a firm defensive network.

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Mr. Hayes then remarked that he gathered it would be

appropriate for the Committee, if it so desired, to authorize

Mr. Coombs to commence negotiating enlargement of the swap lines,

but only if and when a formal approval of the program was received

by the Chairman or Acting Chairman of the Board of Governors from

the Treasury.

Mr. Wayne suggested that conceivably the Secretary of the

Treasury might not give a formal approval.

Mr. Hayes said the only thing the Committee had thus far

was an indication of favorable leaning on a personal basis.

The

negotiations should be started only if the Secretary of the

Treasury formally asked the System to undertake the program as a

matter of U.S. policy.

Mr. Daane remarked that no U.S. policy position had yet been

formulated.

The question would have to go to the top level.

Mr. Wayne commented that the matter was too important to go ahead

under a kind of gentlemen's agreement.

Mr. Hayes repeated that he would propose that the program

become operative only if and when formal approval of the Treasury

was received, and Mr. Mitchell raised the question whether "approval"

or "request" was the more appropriate term.

Mr. Mitchell also asked whether it was conceived that the

System would be acting just as an agent of the Treasury, and

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Mr. Hayes said he thought it was recognized that the System did

not have to do anything it considered unsound, and the Committee

had never accepted the thesis that it would take any action it

thought was wrong.

That was different from saying that even if

the Committee considered a program sound, it would not undertake

the program unless it was consistent with U.S. international

financial policy as expressed by the Treasury.

He saw little

difference, in that context, between an approval and a request.

It was his recollection that the System's foreign currency

activities had been undertaken from their inception with the full

approval of the Treasury.

Mr. Robertson remarked that the question whether to under

take the program was one for the Committee to decide, but any

action must be triggered by a specific notification from the

Secretary of the Treasury that it was time to act.

Mr. Hayes then suggested that the Committee authorize

negotiations to increase the swap lines with the understanding,

however, that the negotiations would not be activated until there

was specific notification from the Treasury that they wished the

Committee to proceed.

Mr. Scanlon noted that Mr. Coombs had indicated that if

negotiations with either of the key countries failed, the program

probably should be called off.

Suppose the Germans were willing

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to go to only $500 or $600 million instead of $750 million?

Would

the proposed Committee action give Mr. Coombs enough leeway?

Mr. Coombs responded that he hoped it would.

If the Germans

agreed to only $500 or $600 million, he would not consider that a

fatal blow to the negotiations.

His memorandum had only referred

to the $5.2 billion aggregate figure as a maximum.

Mr. Hayes then said that all the Committee would be granting,

subject to notification from the Treasury, was authority to

Mr. Coombs to attempt to negotiate the proposed swap-line increases

within the suggested maximum amounts.

He assumed that Mr. Coombs

would furnish the Committee a full report of the results, with a

request for formal ratification of whatever actions seemed feasible

as a result of the negotiations.

Mr. Daane expressed the view that the record should be clear

that the Committee was authorizing the negotiations subject to

notification from the Treasury that such action was fully consistent

with U.S. international financial policy, and that the timing was

appropriate.

Mr. Shepardson asked whether it would seem appropriate, in

further discussion with the Treasury concerning the swap program,

to use the occasion to press for Administration concern on the

total balance of payments problem.

Mr. Hayes said he thought it might be a mistake to try to

tie that in as a quid pro quo.

However, he would not lose any

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opportunity to stress informally the need for action on the balance

of payments.

Mr. Daane said that insofar as he, Governor Robertson,

and Governor Brimmer had participated in any Governmental review

of the balance of payments position, they had always stressed the

need for correction through the development of a broad-gauged

program.

He thought it was quite appropriate to continue to press

the matter whenever opportunities presented themselves.

The consensus of further comments was that it would be

inadvisable to tie the proposed program regarding the swap lines

to a request for more vigorous efforts on the balance of payments

problem, but that System representatives should properly use all

appropriate opportunities to stress the need for fundamental

correction.

Mr. Patterson asked whether Mr. Coombs was being authorized

to proceed to negotiate swap arrangements which, however, would

not be put into effect until the Treasury requested, and Mr. Hayes

said Mr. Coombs was not to begin negotiations until word was

received from the Treasury.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

Mr. Coombs was authorized to negotiate

for an enlargement of the swap network

along the lines proposed in his

memorandum of August 18, 1966, subject

to the understanding, however, that

such negotiations were not to be begun

until the Chairman or Acting Chairman

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of the Board of Governors received

specific notification from the

Secretary of the Treasury that the

proposed program was fully consistent

with U.S. international financial

policy and that the timing was

considered appropriate.

At Mr. Hayes' suggestion, Mr. Daane then presented a brief

summary of the Group of Ten meetings held at The Hague, Netherlands,

on July 25-27, 1966.

The first order of business, he said, was a

meeting of the Deputies on the morning of the 25th, at which they

finalized the report that would be made public this Thursday.

He

thought he had given enough of the flavor of that report at

previous Committee meetings to make it unnecessary to go into

detail concerning it.

It did represent a considerable agreement

and consensus on the elements of contingency planning for reserve

creation.

But the real meat of the meetings at The Hague was in

the sessions of the Ministers and Governors, which involved a

debate between the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and the French

Finance Minister on whether or not to go forward into the second

stage of contingency planning and, if so, under what conditions.1/

The communique

issued at The Hague, which would be sent to each Committee member

along with the report of the Deputies, indicated that U.S. interests

were fully protected in getting into the second stage of the

negotiations, which would involve wider participation.

It pointed

1/ A sentence has been deleted at this point for one of the reasons

cited in the preface. The sentence reported a further observation by

Mr. Daane on the subject under discussion.

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out that one of the principles involved was that the interest of

all countries in the smooth working of the international monetary

system was recognized.

That was the U.S. position, and had been

all the way through the negotiations.

The communique said that

it was appropriate to look now for a wider framework for considera

tion of questions that would affect the world economy as a whole,

and it recommended a series of joint meetings in which the Deputies

would take part along with the Executive Directors of the Monetary

Fund.

It indicated that a report should be expected no later than

the middle of 1967.

Nine of the countries of the Group of Ten had

agreed to go into the second stage, and the French had been isolated

in their negative position.

The meeting then recessed and reconvened at 1:50 p.m.,

with the same attendance as at the morning session.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System Open Market

Account covering open market operations in U.S. Government securities

and bankers' acceptances for the period July 26 through August 17,

1966, and a supplemental report for August 18 through 22, 1966.

Copies of both reports have been placed in the files of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes

commented as follows:

Interest rates have moved sharply higher in an

atmosphere of considerable market apprehension since

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the Committee met four weeks ago. The continued weight

of credit demand, including two Treasury financing

operations, further signs of inflationary pressure as

evidenced by the steel price rise and the terms of the

airline strike settlement, the rise in the prime rate,

the cloudy outlook for CD's in the weeks ahead, and the

Board's action to raise reserve requirements combined

to put inexorable pressure on the financial markets. All

sectors of the financial markets and all maturity ranges

were affected. Rates on Federal funds, Treasury bills,

bankers' acceptances, commercial and finance company

paper, dealer loans, Federal Government agency obliga

tions, and corporate and municipal securities all moved

into new high ground, while stock market values declined

about 7 per cent.

With dealer financing costs high and prices eroding,

the underwriting of new issues has become a highly un

certain undertaking, and this in turn has contributed

to the movement of prices and rates. There are many

illustrations of the pressures the market is facing.

(1) On August 9 a $239 million

To cite only a few:

issue of short-term notes--tax-exempt and fully Government

guaranteed--by the Public Housing Authority was placed

at an average cost of 4.61 per cent, up half a per cent

from the rate on a comparable issue a month earlier.

Major underwriters joined forces to enter a single bid

for a major portion of the issues and exacted as much as

(2) On August 16

a 1/2 per cent underwriting spread.

the Urban Renewal Authority was able to place only

$55 million of a $130 million offering, either because

no bids were received or because the rates involved were

in excess of rather flexible legal limitations.

(3) A

relatively new firm selling computer services was forced

into the capital market after having been refused credit

by a number of major banks, and paid up to 8-1/4 per cent

(4) The syndicate handling the

for a 1970 maturity.

$250 million A.T.&T. issue, originally offered on August 3

to yield 5.58 per cent, was terminated with only two

thirds of the issue sold. The issue closed yesterday at

a yield of 5.86 per cent, up a quarter of a per cent in

20 days.

In the Government securities market, rates on three

and six-month Treasury bills reached peaks of 5.10 and

5.49 per cent, respectively, last Friday, 30 and 60 basis

points higher than at the time of the last meeting of the

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Committee. A technical rally Friday afternoon and

yesterday erased only part of this rise. Yields on

intermediate-term Treasury issues rose by as much as

60 basis points, with the 4 per cent note of February

1969 reaching a peak of 5.88 per cent. Long-term

issues were up as much as 15 basis points in yield,

with the "bellwether" 4-1/4 per cent bonds of 1987-92

hitting a peak of 4.97 per cent. In yesterday's

auction, average issuing rates were set at 5.02 and

5.41 per cent on the three- and six-month bills, down

3 and up 9 basis points from the rates set a week

earlier.

Despite alarms and excursions and an underlying

tone of gloom and weakness, the markets continued to

perform. Securities were traded and funds were raised

at the successively higher yield levels reached. At

each higher level, rates have proved irresistible to

some investors; there has been some short covering by

professionals, and there are always a few optimists

who become convinced--at least temporarily--that a

turning point is at least in sight. While the markets

have functioned, the performance has been a shaky one.

There remains a substantial risk that some unexpected

development or the cumulative pressure of demand on

the supply of funds could set off a series of disruptive

events in the market that would be hard to control,

particularly if psychology got out of hand. Caution,

fortunately, is the order of the day in the markets,

but we should be alert to the potential dangers in the

current situation.

Against this negative background, the Treasury had

to carry out a refunding of issues maturing August 15

(to which holders of November maturities were eligible

to join) and then raise $3 billion in cash in an auction

The initial

of March and April tax bills on August 18.

reactions to the Treasury's offer of a 5-1/4 per cent

note and a 5-1/4 per cent certificate were quite favorable,

with Government securities dealers generally adopting a

more constructive attitude than in recent Treasury opera

But as time went on the atmosphere soured, and

tions.

when the books closed on August 3 both new issues were

quoted at par bid, down 5/64 from their peaks. They have

since declined almost uninterruptedly. At last night's

close, a week after payment date, the new Treasury note

was offered at 99 to yield 5.49 per cent. Those dealers

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who stood up to their function of underwriting Treasury

financing operations have suffered substantial losses

as a result of their participation.

Last week's auction of $2 billion March and

$1 billion April tax bills was preceded by a rise in

the prime rate to 6 per cent and the Board's reserve

requirement action. Despite the eagerness of banks

to acquire the tax and loan deposit that comes with

successful bidding, there was considerable caution in

the bidding, with some banks withdrawing altogether and

others cutting back their participation. While both

issues were covered, bidding was lighter than in any

similar auction in recent history, the range of bids

was wide, and some underwriting bids were entered at

rates of 6 per cent or more. Average rates of 5.34

per cent and 5.43 per cent were set for the March and

April issues, respectively. Secondary market trading

started at rates well above the market for outstanding

bills and after some decline they closed yesterday at

5.58 and 5.60 per cent. The Treasury's experience with

its latest financing raises some fundamental questions

about the possibility of carrying out an effective debt

management policy in a period when rates are constantly

on the rise and the market's ability and willingness

to perform an underwriting function are weak. Further

tests will be supplied now that Congress has given the

go-ahead signal for the issuance of new Federal agency

participation certificates, expected to total $4.2

billion in the current fiscal year. The first instal

ment should be forthcoming soon after Labor Day.

Even keel was, of course, an important consideration

during much of the period since the Committee last met.

It was fortunate, perhaps, that required reserves and the

credit proxy consistently fell below the levels desired

by the Committee at the last meeting. If these aggregates

had been running strong, there would have been a clear

cut conflict between even keel and the Committee's

desire to keep a tight rein on bank credit expansion--a

conflict that would have made the conduct of open market

operations even more difficult than it was. In the event,

estimated required reserves appear to have declined in

August somewhat more than was envisioned at the time of

the last meeting, and the credit proxy has also been

running below expectations even after allowing for the

effect of the rise in bank liabilities to their foreign

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branches (mentioned in the blue book)1/ which are not

now, but should undoubtedly be, reflected in the credit

proxy.

Net borrowed reserves in the three weeks ended

August 17 averaged in the lower end of the range that

most Committee members mentioned at the last meeting,

and in the week ended August 10 the figure turned out

after revisions to be $301 million, well below that

range, although we had no means of knowing this at the

time. At the same time, other money market conditions

were tighter than they had been. The effective rate

on Federal funds reached 5-3/4 per cent in the week the

books on the Treasury financing were open, and moved to

5-7/8 per cent with some trading at 6 per cent in the

week ending August 10 when net borrowed reserves were

low.

Interest rates rose steadily during the period,

as noted earlier. Banks apparently were managing their

reserve positions cautiously, and borrowing averaged

close to $800 million. There appeared to be a tendency

to overborrow at the discount window over the weekends,

with some easing in the Federal funds rate at the end

of statement weeks as banks found they had more reserves

than they needed. This short-lived easing in the funds

market had no effect on dealer loan rates at New York

City banks, which remained at peak levels throughout

the period except for a modest volume of loans against

rights to the Treasury financing made by one of the

New York banks at a rate just under 6 per cent.

In general, the somewhat lower level of net

borrowed reserves--in the over-all context of rate

developments--did not mislead anyone into thinking that

Federal Reserve policy had relaxed, nor did the repurchase

agreements made by the Desk against rights at the discount

rate encourage dealers to go overboard in subscribing to

the new issues. On the other hand, any attempt to maintain

interest rates steady during the even-keel period would

have required a massive outpouring of reserves in the face

of developments during the period and of the market's

conviction that Federal Reserve policy was not only tight

but bound to get tighter after the refunding was out of

the way.

1/

The report, "Money Market and Reserve Relationships," prepared

for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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At the moment the market is anticipating that the

Federal Reserve will be a large buyer of securities to

offset the reserve impact of the settlement of the

airline strike, pre-Labor Day holiday reserve needs,

and at least part of the reserves to be absorbed later

on by the Board's action raising reserve requirements.

In light of this, there was some rally in the Government

bond market on Friday afternoon and yesterday and Treasury

bill rates receded from their recent peaks. Today the

bond market is again off; prices that had been moving

up are back down again. Corporate rates are tending to

affect the Government bond market as well. As we move

into September the expected pressure on bank CD positions

at a time of expanding seasonal loan demands should lead

to growing pressure on financial markets generally. In

order to maintain pressure on the ability of banks to

expand credit without disrupting the Government securities

market, we shall have to be as flexible as possible in

the conduct of open market operations. During the period

since the Committee last met, we made use twice of

matched sale-purchase contracts to absorb reserves on a

temporary basis--the operation last Tuesday being con

ducted at the lowest gross return to the dealers that

we have seen. Today, with net borrowed reserves falling

below what we thought the Committee intended, the Desk

has made some further matched sale-purchase contracts.

In my view, this instrument has proved its value as a

tool of open market operations.

In supplying reserves

in the weeks immediately ahead, we would plan to rely

first on outright purchases of Treasury bills and other

securities to the extent that they are available, but

will try to minimize any major impact on rates in a

market where the ready supply of all issues is fairly

small.

Should repurchase agreements become a useful

tool I would plan to make them at a rate above the

present discount rate, although the precise rate would

have to depend on market conditions at the time the

contracts were undertaken. In view of the need for

flexibility I recommend that the Committee not take

action today to restore the continuing authority

directive to limit RP's against Government securities

to securities maturing in less than 24 months.

Similarly,

I believe it would be advisable to retain the $2 billion

leeway on purchases and sales--authorized by the Committee

at the last meeting--between now and the next Committee

meeting.

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In response to a question, Mr. Holmes verified that if

repurchase agreements were made at rates above the present

discount rate, it would be the first time that that had been

done recently.

Probably the rate would be linked to the three

month bill rate, but the precise rate would depend on market

conditions at the particular time.

He felt that it would be

desirable to get away from the discount rate, and he did not

think that that would shock the dealers unduly at this juncture.

Asked for his view as to where the net borrowed reserve

figure would come out for the current statement week, Mr. Holmes

said that last night the Desk had been looking at a figure of

roughly $470 million.

Today it was found from the country bank

sample that required reserves were about $50 million lower than

anticipated, and with this and other revisions the Desk was

looking at a figure of around $390 million this morning.

As a

result of the matched sale-purchase contracts made today, he

would expect a figure around the $470 million level, but tomorrow

there might be trouble again.

Mr. Hickman commented on the fact that required reserves

were again falling below the target, and Mr. Holmes replied that

recently that had been the case consistently.

When he last checked,

the credit proxy showed about a 2 or 3 per cent growth in August,

compared with the 4-6 per cent growth estimated at the time of the

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last Committee meeting.

Required reserve figures were still

coming in lower than anticipated, which would mean that, if

anything, the credit proxy would be revised further downward.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions in Govern

ment securities and bankers' acceptances

during the period July 26 through August

22, 1966, were approved, ratified and

confirmed.

Mr. Hayes inquired whether any members of the Committee

disagreed with the Manager's recommendation that no change be

made at this meeting in the continuing authority directive, and

no objections were heard.

Mr. Hayes then called for the staff economic and financial

reports, supplementing the written reports that had been distrib

uted prior to the meeting, copies of which have been placed in

the files of the Committee.

Mr. Brill made the following statement on economic conditions:

At this time, when the System is in the process

of making a quantum jump in the intensity of monetary

restraint, it is reasonable to want to assess carefully

any dangers that may be inherent in such a policy course.

This afternoon, Mr. Partee will be discussing the

possible ramifications of recent policy changes on

financial markets and institutions. For my part, I am

making the assumption that policy can be implemented

effectively without creating financial crisis, and will

address myself to two questions: first, whether this

policy is what the economy needs, and, second, how much

of it is needed and how long the economy can stand it.

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The proposition that the economy needs more

restraint is neither as simple nor as self-evident

as might seem on first blush. Current wage and

price developments that tend to excite us are not

necessarily leading indicators; very often these are

lagged responses to economic sins committed earlier,

or responses to essentially temporary supply and

demand phenomena. The question that has to be answered

is whether general economic circumstances will likely

be such that current wage and price trends will persist,

or perhaps accelerate.

In this connection, I would remind the Committee

that the staff projection of GNP incorporated in the

green book1/ has real GNP expanding at less than a

4 per cent annual rate in the third and fourth quarters

of this year, down from the 5-1/2 per cent rate during

the first half of the year and the almost 7 per cent

rise in the second half of 1965. Moreover, even this

projection might turn out to be over-optimistic in two

respects. First, it was completed before the July

housing starts figures were in, showing a sharp drop

to levels we didn't anticipate till year-end.

If

starts fail to bounce back--this is a volatile series,

but the drop in permits and the continued strain in

mortgage markets do not look encouraging--this could

pare three-quarters of a billion or so from the $14

billion rise in GNP projected for the third quarter

and perhaps twice that from the fourth quarter.

The second area of possible over-optimism is

consumption, projected as rebounding to a pace double

that of the slow second quarter. This isn't an

unreasonable expectation, since the reduced pace of

total consumer spending in the spring seems to have

been associated mainly with the slackening in disposable

income plus, in some measure, the auto safety hassle.

But while most attention has been focused on lagging

auto sales, other consumer outlays have held up

relatively well; over all, there doesn't seem to have

been much change in consumers' propensity to spend.

Disposable income is now slated to rise more rapidly

1/ The report, "Current Economic and Financial Conditions," prepared

for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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than earlier--at least there is no big tax bite

scheduled--and with June and July retail sales

looking good, the green book projection is

persuasive.

My reservations about this consumption out

look are based more on hunch than hard evidence.

Consumers have generally behaved rationally in the

postwar period; when prices have risen significantly,

more often than not they have decided to hold back

on buying. This rational approach, along with

tightened consumer credit standards, may operate

to confound Detroit in a month or so, when the new

models arrive in the showroom.

But, whatever reservations one may have about

consumers' contribution to inflationary pressures

in the months ahead, large increases in Federal and

business spending are in prospect. The course of

defense orders and order backlogs, and enlarged

draft calls, continue to suggest a further rise in

defense outlays in the months ahead. Quantifying

this remains necessarily arbitrary, but the number

we are using--an increase of $2-1/2 billion this

quarter and the same next quarter--is not regarded

as outlandish by other (equally blind) forecasters

in town.

Federal nondefense spending is rising, too,

and Medicare payments, after a slow start, may

accelerate. Thus, we would expect total Federal

outlays--defense, nondefense, and transfer paymentsto rise more rapidly than tax receipts, and on a

national income accounts basis the Government's net

contribution to the economy to move from a $4 billion

surplus in the second quarter to about a billion

dollar deficit in the fourth quarter, hardly a fiscal

policy appropriate to the times.

The other major expansionary force--business

investment spending--seems ordained to rise over the

balance of the year, and perhaps even to accelerate,

since the spending increase was held down somewhat

earlier this year by construction strikes and delivery

delays. Shortly there will be a new reading on

current and future business capital spending plans.

Until then all we can say is that most of the relevant

factors--the high rate of capacity utilization, the

still high profit margins, the prospects of accelerating

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wages, and the backlogs of machinery orders--appear

to be pointing to continued rapid expansion in

business spending for plant and equipment, if the

funds can be found.

Business inventory accumulation could also add

to the pressure on resources. Businesses have

tended to accelerate buying in anticipation of price

rises, and one might argue that the staff GNP projec

tion is too conservative in expecting some moderation

in inventory demands. Protective buying and stock

piling could provide a more powerful thrust to the

economy than is allowed for in the projection.

Balancing the probabilities attaching to the

various components of activity, I think it's a fair

assessment that, over the next several months, gains

in real output will be slower than the peak rates

reached last winter, in part because of labor and

plant capacity limitations in some key areas such

as machinery, but in part also because of slackening

in some demands. Nevertheless, it doesn't seem

likely that activity will be slowing fast enough to

head off mounting inflationary pressures. Even if

our projection is shaded down a bit, it would still

imply, for the balance of this year, industrial

production rising rapidly enough to keep manufacturing

capacity as fully utilized as ever, and unemployment

still below 4 per cent.

For some time ahead, then, the greater danger

is that we'll be staying in the zone of plant

utilization and labor shortages where wage and price

escalation is possible. Thus, the July rise in the

consumer price index--four-tenths of a per cent--will

bring wage increases of 2 cents an hour to over a

million workers, including the auto workers, and this

along with the rise in steel prices will likely provide

the arguments for higher price tags on the new model

cars. In turn, this will make it more difficult to

argue for moderation in other wage contracts to be

negotiated this fall. In the context of a still strong

economy, price rise engenders price rise. Given the

dim fiscal outlook, it doesn't seem to me that the

System has much option now but to move aggressively

toward curtailing expansion in demands, particularly

in the business sector. At the same time, we will have

to redouble our efforts to detect signs of any spreading

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weakness in demands, in order to avoid carrying

such a policy stance too far or too long.

Mr. Partee made the following statement concerning financial

developments:

Events have moved so swiftly since the last

meeting of the Committee that it is difficult to

frame an appraisal of the situation. Interest rates

have adjusted sharply upward, so that past relation

ships and funds flows may have little relevance for

the new configurations beginning to emerge. The

stock market has declined markedly further, certainly

due in part to the pull of high interest rates and

concern among investors about "tight money", but the

financial implications are by no means clear. Un

certainty and apprehension have come to dominate

the mood of both lenders and borrowers, and changes

in portfolio policies and financing plans doubtless

are now in process. Such is the price of escalating

financial tautness in an increasingly inflationary

economic environment.

The biggest question mark currently, of course,

is the possible extent of a CD runoff at the major

banks. These banks already are paying the ceiling

rate on large-denomination CDs of most or all

permissible maturities. Even so, the rise in

outstandings has slowed, with banks in New York

and Chicago showing no net increase since mid-year

and other weekly reporters an expansion of less

than $200 million. The recent further sharp rise

in yields on alternative money market instruments

puts the banks at a clear competitive disadvantage.

Therefore, in view of the heavy schedule of CD

maturities, and assuming that Regulation Q is not

changed, some runoff of outstandings seems certain.

Even a fractional runoff of maturing CDs, which

in September will probably total close to $5 billion,

could readily involve a funds outflow of $1 to $2

billion. But there really are no past guides to

provide the basis for a prediction. Perhaps the bulk

of the funds will remain with the banks, even at a

concession in yields, because customers will wish to

remain in good standing for other purposes. This seems

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to have been the experience of outlying banks, at

least when yield differentials were moderate. Any

substantial diversion of funds into other markets,

moreover, will tend to hold down yields on the

alternative instruments, though the prospects for

this do not seem especially promising. Offsetting

upward rate pressures in the market will probably

be coming simultaneously from increased supply, bank

selling, declining corporate liquidity, and investor

apprehension.

Bank deposit growth generally has not been

especially large over the summer. Taking daily

average figures for the three months through August,

we estimate that private demand deposits will show

virtually no change while Government deposits will

have dropped $800 million. Total time deposits will

have increased by $4.8 billion, an annual growth rate

of 12.5 per cent versus 16 per cent in 1965. Time

deposit expansion has occurred mainly outside the

money centers, however, since the big banks have not

done well with their negotiable CDs and have had

continuing savings deposit losses partly offsetting

growth in consumer CDs.

Meanwhile, loan demand has continued very strong.

Total loans at all commercial banks, on a last Wednesday

basis, rose at annual rates approaching 20 per cent in

both June and July, and business loans showed an almost

unbelievable 30 per cent growth rate over the two-month

period. Loan expansion appears to have slowed thus far

in August, reflecting liquidation of both security and

finance company borrowings and a marked slowing in

business loan growth. But the latter development is

probably temporary; the speedup in corporate payments

of withheld taxes has substantially reduced August

cash needs, after greatly boosting them--and probably

borrowing too--in July and June.

That most big banks are expecting a strong fall

loan demand emerges clearly from Federal Reserve Bank

reports on their recent interviews with selected large

banks. And this prospect is suggested also by the

aggregate figures on corporate sources and uses of

funds. We estimate that corporate investment expen

ditues--for plant, equipment, and inventory--in the

second quarter exceeded internally generated funds by

$13 billion, at annual rates, up from $10.5 billion in

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the first quarter and $4.7 billion in calendar

1965. With capital expenditures continuing to rise

and earnings recently leveling out, it is hard to

see any appreciable diminution in this gap in the

months ahead. Additional funds are being raised

in the capital markets, and the new issue calendar

may well rise even further in the fall, but a sizable

residual demand on the banks seems certain to remain.

Assuming continued substantial business loan

demand, and a sizable runoff in CDs, what can the

banks do to adjust? There is a limit to continued

liquidation of Government securities--especially for

the large banks--because of minimum liquidity needs

and pledged asset requirements. Municipal security

portfolios, which had continued to expand overall

until recently, provide an obvious source of funds,

but at substantial cost to the banks and to market

stability. Security loans and loans to finance

companies can be pushed out, as seems to be going on

at some large banks, but efforts by these borrowers

to obtain funds elsewhere may further limit banks'

ability to sell CDs.

On the liability side, a few of the largest

banks have obtained substantial funds recently from

their foreign branches, although prospects for

maintaining inflows in that magnitude for very long

seem doubtful. And almost all the big banks still

have room under the rate ceilings to compete more

aggressively for consumer CDs; I would not be

surprised to see some do so as the September

dividend-crediting date approaches.

In the end, however, it seems likely that more

banks--including major money market banks hard pressed

by CD losses and prime customer credit demands--will

have to come to the Federal Reserve for assistance.

Increased borrowing, whether on a regular basis or

under a special assistance program, will pose problems

for open market operations and for interpreting money

market statistics. Greater accommodation of the major

banks at the window will not necessarily be offset by

lesser borrowing by the smaller banks, given the

pattern of reserve distribution, but it will provide

the base for increased credit expansion by the banking

system as a whole. Hence, it will be important for

open market operations to mop up any excess reserves

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provided to the system through assistance operations

involving individual banks. Such excesses are

likely to show up initially in the very short-term

money markets, and to be reflected in such things as

Federal funds rates and flows, availability and rates

on dealer loans, and yields on the shortest-dated

Treasury bills.

It is for these reasons that the draft directive

language provided by the staff 1/ places more emphasis

than usual on money market rates and conditions and

less on net borrowed reserves. We feel that close

attention to the money market will provide a better

indication of any developing ease than will net

borrowed reserves, which may become a less meaningfuland perhaps even a perverse--indicator of pressures

on aggregate reserves in the period ahead.

The "no change" directive specifies that money

market rates and conditions be held about where they

are today, which should be accompanied by some CD

runoff in the weeks ahead. In this event, member

bank deposits in September should increase less than

the 8 per cent we would have projected in the absence

of the developing CD problem; perhaps a figure around

6 per cent would be a reasonable expectation. The

"tightening" directive specifies a gradual firming

in money market rates and conditions. This should

result in a sizable and growing CD runoff, and

consequently in only a modest growth in the bank

credit proxy for September--perhaps 2 or 3 per cent.

In either alternative, we feel that the Account

Manager will need an unusually large degree of

discretion to deal with potentially destabilizing

developments; the possibility that such may occur is

greater now than it has been for a long time past.

Asked whether the projection for increase in member bank

deposits in September was seasonally adjusted, Mr. Partee said

that it was, although he warned that there was a certain amount

of variation in the seasonal adjustment.

He went on to say that

the projections were very speculative and that they were included

1/ Appended to these minutes as Attachment A.

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for purposes of illustration as much as anything else.

It was

quite early to be having any firm view of September projections.

A principal factor, however, was the delivery of $3 billion of

tax bills late in August, which would give a large impetus to

average bank credit for the month of September.

The 8 per cent

projection included substantial demand deposit expansion, in

recognition of what had occurred in every last-of-quarter month

for the past several quarters.

It also allowed for a lesser

rise in time deposits than had been occurring recently, including

nothing but a seasonal change in CD's.

The 6 per cent projection

assumed a modest CD runoff; credit growth would be lower--perhaps

in the 3 per cent range--in the event of a large CD runoff.

Mr. Hayes said he understood that the 6 per cent figure

was a rough estimate in event of the kind of CD runoff that might

be expected from the maintenance of existing credit conditions,

and Mr. Partee agreed, emphasizing that it was a very rough

estimate.

Mr. Brimmer noted that the inflow of funds to certain

U.S. banks from their foreign branches did not show up in member

bank deposits (the credit proxy).

Therefore, if the inflow

continued, there could be some credit expansion beyond that

indicated by the credit proxy.

Mr. Partee agreed, but added that

the current inflow might well be less than the high figure of

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around $700 million in July.

If that rate of inflow continued,

he estimated that it would represent the equivalent of an increase

in the credit proxy figure by two or three points for the month,

on an annual rate basis.

For the year as a whole, the influence

would not be so great because the inflow was not too significant

during the first half of the year.

Mr. Hayes agreed that the

inflow was not likely to continue at the high July rate.

Mr. Hickman asked Mr. Partee about the degree of confidence

he attached to the projection of an easing of short-term money

market rates.

It would seem that the pressure of strong loan

demands would tend to mop up available funds.

If the System

maintained the current state of conditions in the money market,

would it not, in effect, be supplying more reserves than needed?

Mr. Partee replied that in the blue book the staff had

projected perhaps a moderate easing of short-term rates.

The

System would be buying a considerable amount of securities and

current changes in private investors' portfolio composition should

favor short-term instruments against intermediate- and long-term

securities.

There could be more easing if, in fact, a considerable

amount of credit was provided through the discount window.

For

the period immediately ahead, maintaining money market rates about

where they were would probably not mean easing but absorbing any

sloppiness that might develop.

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-48Mr. Hickman said he was wondering if one could not get to

the same place by maintaining required reserves about where they

were.

He did not like to place reliance on money market conditions

if there was some better policy guide.

Mr. Partee replied that the staff was very reluctant to

specify the reserve aggregates at this time because the relation

ships were so uncertain in view of the deposit shifts that were

taking place.

Mr. Reynolds then presented the following statement on the

balance of payments:

As Charlie Walker observed recently, the "mix"

between Federal monetary and fiscal restraint today "is

very much like an extra dry martini--about 6 parts monetary

to only one part fiscal."

Mr. Brill has suggested that the

mixture is now becoming even drier than that.

It has sometimes been argued that this sort of recipe

ought to be well suited to the U.S. balance of payments

situation, because monetary restraint particularly restrains

capital outflows. But the 1966 experience to date exposes

the flaws in this line of analysis. The sharp tightening

of credit conditions has indeed reduced net outflows of

capital significantly. But because monetary restraint

has so far operated very selectively on domestic demand,

it has not prevented excessive aggregate demand pressures

from sharply worsening the external balance on goods and

services.

The effect of tight credit on capital flows is clearly

visible for flows of U.S. bank credit and of foreign liquid

funds.

In July there was a reflow of about $140 million of

bank credit covered by the VFCR reports; only about one

third of this was seasonal. In view of the developing

squeeze on large U.S. banks, it now seems reasonable to

take the July movement as a portent for the near-term

future, and to regard the second-quarter outflows as

only a temporary interruption of the reflow that had

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developed earlier. Japanese and Italian borrowers in

particular have been repaying debt to U.S. banks, and the

Japanese would be repaying even faster if the authorities

there were not trying to slow them down.

The second capital flow that clearly reflects tight

money and high interest rates in this country also comes

through U.S. banks. I refer to the inflow of foreign

private liquid funds through the foreign branches of U.S.

banks. Such inflows were exceptionally large in July

and early August, totalling about $900 million, and were

also sizable--about $1/2 billion--during the first half

year. The huge surge in July was related to the run on

sterling and should be viewed as temporary. But funds

are also being attracted out of other currencies by the

very high Euro-dollar rates that U.S. bank branches are

now prepared to pay.

Other capital flows have been less clearly affected.

It may be that the falling off in new Canadian security

issues in this country since April owes something to the

high cost and relative scarcity of U.S. funds. We know

very little so far about this year's direct investments.

Against the known improvements on private capital

account must be set a disturbingly large deterioration on

current account. From the fourth quarter of 1965 to

the second quarter of 1966, the annual rate of current

account surplus declined by about $1-1/2 billion.

Merchandise imports increased as rapidly as before,

despite large releases from domestic stockpiles, while

merchandise exports leveled off. The balance on military

transactions plus services apparently did not change much

over this particular period, but has worsened by comparison

with the year 1965 as a whole.

The net result of all these changes, and of others

that we cannot yet measure, has been to widen the payments

deficit on the liquidity basis of calculation to an

annual rate of roughly $3 billion in July and early

August.

The alternative payments measure, based on official

reserve transactions, has developed very differently, and

shows a seasonally adjusted surplus during July and early

August. The difference results mainly from that fact

that the huge inflows of foreign private liquid funds

in that period improve this balance but do not affect the

liquidity calculation. Since a large part of the

exceptional July inflows should be regarded as temporary,

we should expect to see a renewed deficit on the official

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settlements basis later in the year, although that deficit

might be held well below the liquidity deficit by some

continuing inflow of foreign liquid funds.

To answer more broadly the questions of where we

now stand and where we are heading, one needs to take

account of longer-run trends and of likely business cycle

swings. I would be prepared to concede that we may not

yet have seen much trend deterioration in the payments

position this year. The increase in the liquidity

deficit from a rate of $2 billion a year in 1964-65 to

$3 billion now may be largely explainable in terms of

temporarily or cyclically excessive demand pressures

whose adverse effects have outweighed the cyclically

favorable effects of unusually tight credit. Similarly,

the official settlements deficit might still have been at

about the $1-1/2 billion rate of 1964-65 if it had not been

for cyclical boom developments here and the recent run on

sterling. These rough impressions of trend cannot, of

course, be closely appraised until long after the event.

The worrisome thing is that the earlier trend of

slow improvement in the balance of payments appears to

have been stopped in its tracks. Moreover, it is in danger

of being reversed if, as the green book suggests, the

upward pressure of rising labor costs is now to be added

to the existing pull of demand on prices of manufactured

materials and products. It seems to me that the fiscal

monetary policy martini that we have concocted this year

is likely to produce a much worse hangover in the balance

of payments (and also in the domestic economy) than would

a mixture containing a forthright dose of general fiscal

restraint. The tightening of credit that has helped our

capital account can be reversed a lot more quickly in

some future recession than can a price-cost spiral that

will have impaired our international competitiveness.

My remarks are in no way intended to question the

recent trend of monetary policy--quite the contrary.

The point is that unless restraint of some kind can be

pushed to the point where it significantly dampens

aggregate demand and heads off the inflationary spiral,

the long-run prognosis for the balance of payments is

very bleak.

Mr. Hayes suggested that, since Mr. Robertson might have to

leave before the meeting was finished, he start the go-around of

comments and views on economic conditions and monetary policy.

8/23/66

-51Mr. Robertson said that first he would like to suggest, in

view of the discussion earlier today, that the staff be asked to

update last year's contingency planning on how to handle the

securities market in the event of a sterling crisis.

It was agreed that that should be done.

Mr. Robertson then made the following statement:

Beyond question, the current economic situation is

so fraught with inflationary pressures that we need to

be applying all the restraint upon the availability of

credit that we can reasonably bring to bear. The main

issue that should concern us today is how best to achieve

that policy posture (with perhaps a secondary issue being:

"How can we recognize that position when we get there?").

Already there is a good deal of monetary restraint

present in our financial system. Interest rates have been

rising sharply, securities markets are tight, and both

bank and nonbank credit extensions to private borrowers

as a group seem to have slowed somewhat.

Even so, when we see the kinds of excess demand still

apparent in most markets, the accelerated rates of advance

in prices and wages that are taking place, and the overlay

of inflationary expectations apparent in many quarters,

we simply cannot sit back and assume that monetary policy

has done enough.

There is one major problem that we must take account

of, of course, in contemplating any further firming by

monetary action. That is the subject--already discussed

this morning--of the highly uneven impact of the credit

restraint already achieved, and the likelihood that still

more uneven effects could follow from further credit

tightening action. These uneven credit effects need to

concern us--not just because they are inequitable, or

because they give rise to political hostility, but because

the kinds of credit being least affected are those financing

some of the most inflationary and unsustainable types of

private expenditures, most particularly business plant,

equipment, and inventory spending.

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The kind of discount administration program we have

talked about this morning seems to me to offer us one

possibility of doing something--not everything, but

something--to redress this lack of balance in credit

restraint. In my judgment, some such program--adjusted

and qualified as seems wise in the light of the best

thought of everyone in the System--has to be an essential

part of our future monetary policy. To fall short on

this score will be to stop monetary policy from making

its fullest contribution to the very difficult task

of economic stabilization that this country faces today.

I am going to assume, therefore, that we will take

steps in the direction outlined that will make further

tightening via open market operations feasible and

desirable. To be specific, I would like to see net

borrowed reserves running deeper by at least $100

million--one-fourth of the reserve effect of the reserve

requirement increase--by the time that action becomes

effective in early September. Beyond that, I recognize

that member bank borrowings might mount considerably higher

as banks seek discount window assistance in meeting the

September squeeze. I would urge the Manager not to engage

in open market purchases to reduce such borrowing, but to

instead be prepared to conduct operations to keep such

injections of borrowed reserves from in any way easing

the climate of firmer money market conditions that I

hope we will have achieved by then.

Finally, let me say a few words about the desirability

of keeping the "proviso" clause in the directive. It is

important in our instructions to the Manager to keep in

mind the need for providing him with sufficient flexibility

to moderate unexpected and undesired surges or contractions

in credit demand. Generally, he should be able to make

the net position of banks and the money market less

comfortable if credit demands prove very strong and more

comfortable if such demands become weak. As strong demands

converge on banks, the Manager in his operations should

force the banks to meet some part of their resulting

reserve needs through the discount window; in that way,

the discipline of the window can be added to the discipline

of the market place. On the other hand, if demands prove

weak, it would not be amiss if banks as a whole were in a

position to reduce some of their indebtedness to us.

However, in as inflationary a situation as we face

today, we should be more wary of letting the indebtedness

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of banks to the Federal Reserve become too low than about

forcing it to high levels. In the current circumstances,

this means that the Manager should see to it that net

borrowed reserves deepen further, and more rapidly if

credit demands prove strong and threaten to bring about

a rapid aggregate reserve expansion. Only if it is

crystal clear that demands are weakening, or if in the

unlikely event that financial markets become patently

disorderly, should he let up in any significant way on

the pressure on banks.

I believe the following wording for the second

paragraph of the directive would accomplish the objectives

I have in mind:

To implement this policy, while taking account

of possible unusual liquidity pressures on banks,

System open market operations until the next

meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a

view to attaining further firming of money market

and reserve conditions, with the firming to be

greater if bank credit tends to expand more than

expected.

Mr. Hayes then made the following statement:

The pace of the business expansion appears to be

increasing in the current quarter, and there are signs

that inflationary pressures in the economy are accelerating.

As has been true for many months, the outlook is for

continuing strength in the economy over the remainder of

the year and well into 1967. Price developments in July

were very discouraging, as wholesale food and farm

prices once again rose sharply; and earlier hopes for

lower prices in this area later in the year seem to have

vanished. Consumer prices continue to rise at a rate of

about 3.5 per cent. The airline wage settlement seems

likely to set an excessive wage pattern for upcoming

contract demands; and emergence of cost-push pressures

is further indicated by the recent steel price increase.

There is no basis for encouragement as to our

balance of payments position, despite some recent official

and press comments in that direction. A preliminary

deficit figure of $437 million for July is very unfavorable

even after allowance for seasonal factors. For several

months we have observed a serious deterioration in our

trade surplus, and apart from special transactions our

liquidity deficit would have increased from a $2.0

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billion rate in the first quarter to a $2.5 billion

rate in the second quarter. For the time being, pressure

on the dollar in foreign exchange markets has been

significantly reduced by heavy borrowings in the Euro

dollar market by overseas branches of American banks.

Incidentally, this was not reflected in the required

reserves of the banks involved and has provided a

partial alternative to enlarged Federal fund purchases

and borrowings at the discount window.

Bank credit statistics are as usual highly confusing,

but the growth so far in 1966 has been only a little

below last year's excessive rate. There has been some

uncertain indication of a more significant slowing in

the last few weeks, even after allowance for the estimated

growth of U.S. bank liabilities to overseas branches.

However, New York bankers are projecting a further

substantial loan increase for the third quarter and are

again tightening their lending policies. The prime rate

boost was of course intended to facilitate this process

of rationing. Current loan demand is no doubt swollen

by fears that credit may become still harder to obtain

some months from now. Meanwhile the big city banks are

faced with the prospect of a considerable loss of negotiable

CDs over the coming weeks and months, in the light of

the recent sharp upward movement of nearly all market

interest rates.

Coming to matters of policy, I am impressed anew

by the urgent need for development of a concerted System

approach in view of the very difficult economic and

financial conditions we face and the lack of clear

understanding of these problems in many quarters outside

the System. In the first place, the need for general

Governmental policies of restraint seems to be obvious;

yet there is still no evidence of a likely near-term

assist from fiscal policy in the form of a tax rise.

With the burden on monetary policy therefore excessively

heavy, we must be even more than usually alert to the

risk of causing undue financial strains or disorderly

markets, without losing sight of our basic goal of

slowing the rate of bank credit growth.

In connection with recent increases in reserve

requirements, I think it worth emphasizing the inevitably

intimate connection between reserve requirement changes

and open market operations. Inasmuch as open market

operations are inherently capable of supporting,

reinforcing, or nullifying the reserve effect of a

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requirement change, it would have been useful to have a

prior general discussion of possible future reserve

requirement changes at a meeting of the Committee, just

as it has been our general practice to use this forum

for a general exchange of views on the desirability of

a discount rate change.

My second observation on the latest change in

requirements has to do with my concern that the System

may be playing into the hand of those who maintain that

a very sharp distinction may be made between cost of

credit and its availability. More concretely, it seems

illusory, for example, to refrain from approving a

discount rate rise on the ground that it may lead to an

escalation of market rates, while raising reserve require

ments in the hope that this may lead to slower credit

expansion without appreciable rate effects. There seems

to be little doubt that the two recent increases in

reserve requirements have been a significant contributing

cause of the sharp upward move in market rates. I might

add that our directors wish to be associated with these

comments on the necessarily close tie between cost and

availability of credit.

Turning to open market policy, I would hope we can

maintain a firm rein on bank credit expansion. Further

tightening should be closely geared to the pace of growth

of bank credit as that can best be measured in the short

run. In this connection, it is worth noting that the

bank credit proxy for August, after allowing for re-lending

of funds obtained from foreign branches, appears to be

running at or below the lower end of the 4-6 per cent range

mentioned at our last meeting. I will be pleased if this

is the way the August figures finally come out. Looking

ahead, I would continue to feel that a rise in the proxy

at a rate significantly above 6 per cent would be reason

for greater restraint, provided that market conditions

permit such action by the Manager. In general, I believe

we should be paying close attention to the uncertainty

that has prevailed in financial markets. In terms of net

borrowed reserves, I have in mind a level of around $500

million, with higher levels if credit expansion is exces

sive.

A higher net borrowed reserve figure of course implies

forcing the banks to acquire more of their reserves through

the discount window; and this in turn would automatically

give the System additional leverage over the banks' credit

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policies. As I said earlier, all of this can be accom

plished in the period immediately ahead without any

essential change in the method of administering the

Reserve Banks' discount windows. I think all of us

agree that we should try to force more banks into the

window; but, as I have already suggested, this is the

automatic effect of any tightening through our tested

instrument of open market operations.

The discount rate is even more glaringly out of line

with market rates than it was about six weeks ago, when

the directors of a number of Reserve Banks voted to

Our own directors feel quite strongly that

increase it.

the rate should be raised now that the Treasury financing

is out of the way. I very much hope that the Board of

Governors will see fit to go along with an increase some

time in the next two weeks or so, as I think it would be

most unfortunate if the impression were to gain ground

that the rate is "frozen" at its present level until the

banks become much tighter than they are now. The discount

rate has traditionally been a "member of the team" of

credit policy instruments. At the very least it has been

moved from time to time to bring it in line with the

realities of market conditions, even when it was not used

as a dramatic advance signal. It is so far behind the

parade now that it may cause unnecessary public confusion

as to our basic policy objectives, besides rendering

administration of the window more difficult than it would

otherwise be. I am not sure in my own mind whether the

rise at this time should be by 1/2 per cent or by 1 per

cent.

As far as the first paragraph of the directive is

concerned, I would suggest adding to the phrase "and

interest rates have risen substantially" the words "in

an atmosphere of great uncertainty."

Alternative A of

the second paragraph would best express my policy conclu

sions, but with all the provisos involved I would not

object to alternative B if the majority prefers it.

Mr. Francis observed that there were some similarities between

the economic problems of the British for the past three or four years

and the economic problems of the United States during the past year.

In both cases public policies had fostered excessive total demand

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for goods and services resulting in inflation.

Total demand in

excess of ability to produce leads not only to current price infla

tion but also to bottlenecks and other inefficiencies of production,

which, as time passes, may cause the margin between demand and

available supply to become even larger.

The British might have had

greater real production in the recent past if they had not followed

excessive total demand policies which led to inflationary wage

settlements and "hoarding" of labor.

In the United States, Mr. Francis said, prices had been

rising during the past year, and output was not being hampered by

shortages of key items.

Current wage demands, the breakdown of

the administration's price guidelines, and talk of wage and price

controls pointed up the seriousness of the problem of excessive

total demand.

The problems of wage negotiations and of commodity

pricing would be greatly simplified if there were public confidence

that total spending was being kept within limits which would foster

general price stability.

The longer total demand outpaced real

output the greater the economic problem became, as evidenced by

the British situation.

But the economy continued to operate under the pressures

of excessive total demand, Mr. Francis remarked.

Although total

spending slowed in the second quarter, the last half of the year

apparently would resume a rapid pace similar to that which spending

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had followed since the end of 1964.

It was highly unlikely that

the productive capacity of the economy could accommodate that

level of demand without further and sharper price increases, and

as one looked towards next year's wage bargaining, the inflationary

prospects seemed even more dismal.

It became increasingly clear, Mr. Francis said, that fiscal

policy had been far too expansionary and had been the primary

contributor to excessive total demand during the past twelve months.

Moreover it would apparently continue in the same direction over the

last half of this year.

But he did not think a withholding of

appropriate monetary measures was justified because of lack of a

more enlightened fiscal policy.

Rather, the Committee should view

fiscal policy as part of the given total demand picture and adapt

monetary policies accordingly.

During the past year financial intermediaries had been slow

to increase their rates on both loans and savings, Mr. Francis noted.

That reluctance to adjust to market conditions had resulted from

their own conservatism and short-run profit considerations, pressures

from the administration and the supervisory agencies, and restrictive

laws and regulations.

As a result, the flows of funds through banks,

savings and loan associations, and other financial intermediaries

had declined, and, surprisingly, the smaller flows had been char

acterized as a rate war for funds among financial institutions.

The

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reduced role of the financial intermediaries had been induced by an

expansion of direct lending and borrowing in the capital and money

markets and by an intensified use by corporations of their own liquid

funds.

Most funds raised in the open market went to governments and

the larger well-known businesses.

Small borrowers who relied chiefly

on financial intermediaries for credit were those mainly affected by

these changing credit flows.

It had been suggested, Mr. Francis added, that supervisory

agencies should further limit rates paid by financial intermediaries

at a time when most other rates had been working up.

him that that would be the wrong thing to do.

It seemed to

To the extent that

the limitation held back adjustments in particular areas, it mis

allocated resources.

Such actions would tend to reduce further the

role of financial intermediaries and would make it still more dif

ficult for those small borrowers that relied on financial institutions

to get an appropriate share of the credit.

Also, there was a risk

that diverting funds from banks and other intermediaries might be

interpreted as monetary restraint (i.e., a slower growth in deposits,

bank credit, and measurable liquid assets) when in fact total liquid

assets might continue to rise unabated via other avenues.

It was

becoming increasingly evident that over the past four months the

firmer stance of the Committee had brought about a leveling off in

the rate of growth of total reserves and money.

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While the rate of growth of productive capacity might be

a reasonable first approximation of a norm for the growth of the

money supply, Mr. Francis remarked, there were times when a lesser

rate was appropriate, just as there were times when growth should

be more rapid than normal.

In this period of easy fiscal policy

and higher interest rates, when the rate of growth of demand for

money holdings was exceptionally low and there was an excessive

total demand, now, if ever, was the time when the money stock

should not be increased so rapidly as the demand.

The recent moderation of monetary expansion was most

encouraging, and he would like to see restraint applied with

increasing pressure until there was evidence that spending plans

and inflationary expectations had been moderated.

He thought that

maintaining the same degree, or somewhat less, of total reserve

availability than had prevailed over the past few months was in

order.

Shortly, he would expect that the banking system would be

increasingly unable to accommodate further spectacular increases

in business lending such as had occurred since April.

There had been some talk of an autumn "liquidity crisis"

both for banks and for nonfinancial corporations, Mr. Francis

noted; but that should not deter the Committee from its quest for

long-run stability.

If anything like a liquidity crisis should

show itself, it seemed to him that the necessary short-run adjust

ments could and should be made through the discount window.

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The discount rate continued to be increasingly out of

step with market realities and almost any economic reasoning

argued for its realignment, Mr. Francis said.

He was aware, how

ever, that other telling arguments existed for continuing the rate

without change.

So long as those arguments remained dominant, he

was confident that borrowing could be controlled by proper discount

window administration as a tighter over-all policy was pursued.

Mr. Patterson reported that the Sixth District economy

continued to be exuberant.

About the only soft spots were in

southern Florida, where the airline strike seriously cut the summer

tourist business, and in some agricultural areas where production

of cotton and corn was expected to be down because of drought and

reduced planted acreage.

Construction employment held at very high

levels in most areas of the District, and construction contracts

through June remained strong despite disruption in the mortgage

markets.

There was a strong advance in manufacturing employment

in June that helped pull up total nonfarm employment, although the

July figure would probably show less strength because of strikes.

However, the strongest growth industry was Government employment,

which had experienced a seasonally adjusted increase of 8.7 per

cent since the first of the year.

Sixth District bankers, especially those in the larger

cities, continued to complain about difficulties in meeting the

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credit demands stemming from the exuberant behavior of the economy

even though many of the District banks had apparently experienced

less pressure than banks in other parts of the country.

Many

District banks had been able to hold on to their investments

despite the loan expansion.

tightest positions.

The larger city banks were in the

In Mississippi, where the seasonal loan peak

generally came in August and September, some banks had been hard

put to meet loan demands and, judging from the applications at the

discount window from an increasing number of small country banks,

the pressures were extending outward from the larger cities.

For

the District as a whole, the major seasonal pressures were yet to

come although the normal seasonal increase from now to December of

about 2.5 per cent was small compared with the current seasonally

adjusted growth in loans of 1 per cent a month.

Pressures were

greatest at the Atlanta banks, and last Wednesday all the Atlanta

banks raised their prime rates to 6 per cent.

Mr. Patterson said that, after looking at economic

conditions in his own area and concluding that they were fairly

typical of what was going on throughout the nation, it would be

easy to fall into the temptation of considering that the policy

the Committee had been following had had no effect at all on

slowing down the pace of the economy.

that was so.

However, he did not think

Undoubtedly, expansion would have been much greater

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had policy provided a higher reserve base for the growth of bank

credit.

More importantly, the way rates were behaving and funds

were being sought out suggested that the economy was tightening

itself and that that tightening was going to have an increasing

effect on limiting total demand.

One of the men at the Atlanta Bank had suggested that

this was the time for the System to punt.

Although he was not

an expert quarterback, Mr. Patterson believed a football team

decided to punt when it was in such a position that an offensive

act was too risky to make and giving the ball back to the other

team might eventually create a better offensive position.

On the basis of similar reasoning, Mr. Patterson

concluded that an increase in the discount rate now seemed to be

too risky a move to make.

He feared that the psychological impact

would not result in merely a technical adjustment of catching up

with market rates but rather in pushing the whole rate structure

up, intensifying the illiquidity of the banks, and ultimately

forcing the System into supplying large quantities of reserves in

order to avoid a liquidity crisis.

Under those circumstances, it seemed to Mr. Patterson

that the banking system and the financial markets should be allowed

to handle the ball for a while with the System maintaining a strong

defense.

In other words, it should allow market adjustments with

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minimum interference.

The recent rise in the prime rate suggested

that that was already occurring.

A strong defense implied that

the System should not prevent further market adjustements by

raising permissible rates under Regulation Q nor offset the effects

of the Board's recent action raising reserve requirements against

time deposits.

If, as a result, more banks were forced to resort

temporarily to the discount window, a gradual deepening in the net

borrowed reserve figure should be allowed.

He favored alternative A

of the draft directives, with the change suggested by Mr. Hayes.

Mr. Bopp remarked that with the business advance showing

clear signs of accelerating in the current quarter, financial

markets had continued under considerable strain.

Bankers in the

Third District expected more intense loan demand in the fall, with

seasonal growth added to the cyclical thrust responsible for the

intensity expected.

The demand for business loans had been

especially strong since midyear.

Though old customers and large

borrowers continued to be accommodated, new borrowers had in many

cases been turned down.

All of the Philadelphia reserve city

banks followed the increase in the prime rate.

There had been

few changes in terms of mortgage loans in the past several weeks.

Most Philadelphia banks were making mortgage loans only in excep

tional cases and to fulfill previous commitments.

Only a minority

of the banks, however, had attempted to cut back instalment loans.

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As for sources of funds to meet the anticipated fall loan

demand, Mr. Bopp said that two Philadelphia banks expected consumer

type savings certificates to provide the bulk of the funds needed.

Two other banks thought they could attract some CD funds in the near

term; however, all expected CD's to decline in the fall.

Two large

Philadelphia banks believed they might be forced to reduce loans in

the fall as a result of shortages of funds.

In the nation as a whole, Mr. Bopp continued, it also seemed

likely that the banking system would come under increasing strain in

coming months as loan demand intensified under seasonal pressures and

as banks found it more difficult to replace maturing CD's.

Indeed,

$7.7 billion (about 43 per cent) of the negotiable CD's of $100,000

and over outstanding July 27 would mature in August and September.

That raised the question of market reaction to a runoff, possibly

one of sizable proportions.

Since a market confronted with the

unexpected was more likely to be buffeted by severe pressures, the

Philadelphia Bank had tried to get some further idea this past week

of bank expectations regarding the Regulation Q ceiling.

The question

had been discussed with high-ranking officers at each of the five

major Philadelphia banks.

Those individuals expected no change in

the Q ceiling, and all expected some pressures to develop from CD

runoffs as rates on other instruments rose.

Two respondents cited

public statements by System officials as the basis for their belief.

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One banker believed political considerations prevented any change

in Regulation Q.

Another said that the Federal Reserve System had

performed two "operations of relief" in behalf of banks previously,

and that he felt bankers were on their own this time.

He also

stated that he believed "monetary policy has done all it can do."

Turning to policy, it seemed to Mr. Bopp that the proper

course was to allow pressures to build slowly and to exert further

restraint on growth rates in reserves and bank credit.

Accordingly,

he would coordinate open market operations with the Board's action

on reserve requirements to achieve a gradual move toward further

restraint.

He would use the discount window if necessary to ease

severe pressures on individual banks.

In view of the intense

pressures currently prevailing in money and capital markets, however,

he suggested that any move toward further restraint should be gradual

and should be implemented with great caution.

On economic grounds,

he still favored an increase in the discount rate.

On balance, he

favored alternative B for the directive, but he did not feel strongly.

Mr. Hickman expressed the view that business activity should

continue to move forward for the rest of the year, sparked by increas

ing demands for equipment and materials.

Defense spending had already

far exceeded expectations and, as pointed out in the green book,

"there appears to be no abatement in the pace of the increase."

and equipment spending was exceptionally strong.

Plant

As an illustration,

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one of the Cleveland Reserve Bank directors, the chief executive

officer of a leading machine tool producer, stated at the last

Board meeting that present order backlogs were sufficient to maintain

production at full capacity for the next 14 months, even without any

new orders, although he warned that some of the backlog would be

cancelled in the event of a business recession.

Production of 1967

autos would soon be moving into full swing and, as now planned, the

auto component would provide more than seasonal stimulus to the produc

tion index in coming months.

However, with expected end-of-August

inventories of approximately 1.1 million cars, equivalent to a 48-day

supply, planned production might be too optimistic.

Steel output turned up in July on a seasonally adjusted basis,

Mr. Hickman noted, but it was expected to decline in August and should

contribute little to the production index, plus or minus, for the

balance of the year.

Steel companies reporting to the Cleveland Bank

on a confidential basis indicated that new orders in August were not

rising as much as usual, and that defense orders thus far had been

easily absorbed by the industry.

On the price front, Mr. Hickman said, the public seemed to

be catching up with the fact that inflation was a clear and present

danger.

Actual price behavior, however, had been mixed, with prices

of sensitive industrial materials declining recently.

While that

might imply a temporary lessening of inflationary pressures on

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industrial prices, the resumption of rising farm and food prices and

disquieting wage negotiations--both present and future--left little

room for complacency.

Nor could one be complacent about the financial situation,

Mr. Hickman continued, in view of the serious stringencies devel

oping in financial markets.

The depressed states of the mortgage

and stock markets were well known.

Beyond that, more selective

lending policies of banks were pushing corporations increasingly into

the capital market.

Private placements were drying up as a source of

funds; insurance companies were overcommitted and were themselves

contemplating use of the capital market.

In the municipal market,

lower prices and rising yields, in part caused by bank selling, had

resulted in cancellations of new municipal financings.

Thus, intended

policy effects had apparently been achieved throughout all sectors of

the money and capital markets.

Moreover, mounting evidence suggested that further pressures

would build up in the weeks immediately ahead, as strong demands for

credit pressed on a growing scarcity of funds.

Although prediction

in that area was always hazardous, Mr. Hickman believed the Committee

could look for sharply higher yields in the corporate and municipal

markets in the next few months, caused by further bank liquidation

of municipals, the drying up of CD's, and the withdrawal of insurance

companies from the mortgage and capital markets.

All that had led

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and would lead to a desired reduction in aggregate demand.

The

problem was to achieve just the amount of reduction that was needed

to relieve price pressures without destabilizing the economy.

His

own view was that the Committee should wait to see how the economy

responded to the steps already taken.

Mr. Hickman therefore recommended that policy be kept about

the same until the next meeting, with bank reserves provided only

to satisfy seasonal needs.

If bank credit increased more than

projected, under the moderate CD runoff assumption, net borrowed

reserves should be allowed to rise perhaps to as high as $600

million.

On the other hand, if bank credit increased less than

projected, then net borrowed reserves might be allowed to remain

about where they were, that is, around $400 million.

Mr. Hickman said he had been on the call since the last

meeting, and would like to commend the Manager for his handling of

a very difficult situation.

The refunding was touch-and-go all the

way, with considerable attrition, and with the new issues drifting

off in the after-market.

The Manager was hampered during and after

the refunding by major revisions in the reserve statistics, partic

ularly by a shortfall in required reserves below expectations.

That caused net borrowed reserves for one week to fall below $400

million.

On the other hand, smaller net borrowed reserves were

accompanied by lower total reserves, nonborrowed reserves, and bank

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credit (proxy) than had been adjudged appropriate by the Committee.

Yet the money market was extremely tight and uncertain.

In the words

of one observer, the market was characterized by "solid erosion."

Despite all of that, the Desk was able to steer a middle course that

avoided the extremes of tightness and ease.

Mr. Hickman repeated that he favored keeping policy about the

same until the next meeting.

He found the first paragraph of the

draft directives acceptable, with Mr. Hayes' suggested amendment.

He would suggest a second paragraph reading "To implement this policy,

while taking account of potential liquidity pressures within the bank

ing system, System open market operations until the next meeting of

the Committee shall be conducted with a view to maintaining about the

current state of net reserve availability; provided, however, that if

required reserves expand more rapidly than expected, operations shall

be conducted with a view to requiring greater reliance on borrowed

reserves."1/

Mr. Brimmer pointed out that there was a minor inconsistency

between objectives with respect to the balance of payments and on the

domestic side.

While the inflow of funds from foreign branches of

U.S. banks apparently was helpful from the balance of payments

standpoint, it undercut to some extent the efforts of the Committee

to achieve further gradual credit restraint at home.

That was

1/ Later during the go-around, Mr. Hickman indicated that a

directive along the lines suggested by Mr. Mitchell would be

acceptable to him.

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particularly important because so few U.S. banks had foreign

branches and benefited from the inflow.

He hoped that before too

long the Board would review the situation and reach a judgment

about the appropriate steps to take, if any, with regard to the

inflow.

With respect to the domestic scene, Mr. Brimmer commented

that the question was being raised increasingly whether the System

had gone far enough with monetary policy.

That was enhanced because

of the uncertainty and doubts on the part of some observers about

the differential impact of credit restraint.

that the System had not gone far enough.

His own feeling was

Despite the lack of

additional assistance from the fiscal side--and today's paper quoted

a high official as giving assurance that there would be no tax

increase at this time--he thought it was vital that the System push

on with the use of monetary instruments.

The recent informal survey

of current lending practices, conducted by the Reserve Banks at the

request of the Board, provided mixed evidence.

The responses describ

ing the activities of some of the banks were less comforting than he

had hoped.

While there were substantial variations, even within

Districts, on balance the evidence indicated that the banks were in

fact rather close to being prisoners of their large customers.

While he would not say that in public--only within the Committee--he

thought he detected such a high degree of value on customer relations

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that the banks, in fact, had difficulty in saying "no."

He repeated

that he thought the System should push on.

During the past couple of weeks, Mr. Brimmer said, he became

concerned about the way the Desk was carrying out the directive of

the Committee.

He agreed with Mr. Hickman that it was a difficult

period, complicated by the Treasury financing and the serious problem

of how to maintain an even keel, but he had asked a staff member to

review the operations of the Desk during this period because it was

possible to see some slippage and he wanted to know why that had

occurred.

The staff appraisal was shared with the Manager, who

thought it was worthwhile to undertake a review of that kind from

time to time.

The evidence suggested that the Manager had decided

to accept net borrowed reserves in the lower part of the indicated

range.

The reasons for that decision were convincing to the Manager

and were accepted by him (Mr. Brimmer).

That meant, however, that

the Committee was starting off with net borrowed reserves not quite

as it

had hoped they would be when the Committee met a month ago.

How to quantify that was difficult, but he felt that the Committee

was slightly behind and that it

should make up some lost ground.

As a minimum, he hoped that the effect of the Board's reserve require

ment action would not be completely offset.

Roughly one-fourth could

be passed through to net borrowed reserves, in his opinion.

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In summary, Mr. Brimmer thought the Committee ought to come

out with net borrowed reserves somewhat higher than at present.

The Manager had suggested a figure in the high $400 millions, but

he (Mr. Brimmer) was hopeful they would end up in the high $500

millions.

On the discount rate, he would say simply that he had

heard the comments around the table this morning.

All of this suggested to him, Mr. Brimmer said, that the

Committee ought to come out with alternative B, phrased as suggested

by Mr. Robertson, because it would permit the Committee to make up

some of the ground that had been lost.

Mr. Maisel said that from all the documents received for

this meeting it seemed to him that two critical facts stood out.

First, it appeared that aggregate demand was going to expand less

than aggregate supply for the next half year.

Second, the credit

variables, with the exception of business loans, had finally reached

the point where they were expanding less than normally.

Most had

now reached a level of expansion only about one-half to two-thirds

of the expansion rate of last year.

Those were the two critical

bases against which the Committee was going to have to operate.

Accordingly, Mr. Maisel said, it seemed to him the Committee

had now reached the point where it must consider what impact monetary

policy was expected to have on the situation with respect to aggregage

supply and demand.

How would the monetary variables react, and would

the reactions be desirable for the economy?

As to action the System

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was taking now, when would it be expected to be effective?

He did

not think the answers to those questions were critical at this

meeting, but he believed they would grow increasingly important over

the next few months, and he would hope the Committee could have

specific estimates of the expected impact and the lags involved.

Mr. Maisel disagreed with the view that there had been any

undue slippage.

Rather, he would want to hold the credit proxy at

an annual expansion rate close to the average thus far this year.

It seemed to him that the Committee should start allowing the market

to react against a rather constant growth rate rather than to

determine the market, with one basic exception.

Business loan

expansion was far out of line with all other credit variables, and

he would favor a policy of trying to indicate to the banks, through

the discount window, that a substitution of business loans for

securities was not aiding monetary policy in the fight against infla

tion.

It should be made clear that if credit was going to be curtailed,

the place where the curtailment would do the most good was in business

loans.

With those provisos, Mr. Maisel said, he would favor contin

uing to follow a credit proxy variable as a basis for Desk operations.

He would be well satisfied with a 6 per cent expansion rate in the

credit proxy, and he would support alternative A for the directive

on the assumption that that was its goal.

He would not be concerned

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if net borrowed reserves fell below current levels, or if money

market conditions relaxed somewhat or tightened, provided the

credit variables continued to expand at about the rates that had

prevailed recently.

Mr. Daane made the following statement:

At the outset Mr. Chairman, I would like to address

myself to the Board's action of last Wednesday, not in a

spirit of recrimination or of crying over spilled milk

but rather because, as indicated in your statement as well,

I think the considerations surrounding that action are

highly revelant to the problems and decisions we confront

today. Perhaps I can most simply summarize my views with

respect to that action and where it leaves us and leads

us by reading into the record my memorandum to the Board

of August 11, 1966. That memorandum read as follows:

I have reviewed carefully Governor Robertson's

memorandum of August 9, 1966, proposing a further

increase in reserve requirements on large holdings

of time deposits, and the related staff memoranda.

I have also discussed the possible market impact

with the Manager of the System Open Market Account.

On the basis of this review and discussion, and

despite my feeling that the System should, in the

absence of sufficient fiscal restraint, move

further in the direction of credit tightening, I

am strongly opposed to the suggested reserve

requirement action at this time for the following

reasons:

(1) The announcement effect, in the present

market, would in my judgment have severe

repercussions, going well beyond what would be

desired and well beyond the repercussions of

a modest discount rate change. If it resulted,

as it well might, in a substantial forced sale

of assets by one or more of the largest banks

this could bring us close to a disorderly market

and necessitate Account operations and resultant

reserve expansion contrary to present System

objectives. Present market sensitivity is amply

demonstrated in the reception accorded this

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and in the current behavior of the new 5-1/4s,

which are selling below par despite substantial

Treasury purchases during the past two days.

(2) The action would intensify the problem

the banks face in September of replacing existing

CDs without, in my judgment, achieving the

differential impact on bank credit expansion

intended and desired. As I review the staff

documents, and from my own discussions with

several bankers whose judgment I respect, it

seems to me that the real problem confronting

us is one of avoiding too abrupt a runoff of

CDs rather than aggravating a squeeze by our

actions. And I am skeptical, as apparently so

is staff, that the desired differential effects

would ensue. I think banks would simply cut back

further in the credit areas where they are now

cutting--hitting much harder on other loan and

investment areas than on business loans, and

least of all on the demands from their best

business loan customers.

(3) The action most assuredly will be used

by the banks as the peg upon which to hang a

further increase in the prime rate. This

unnecessarily exposes the System to the escalation

of interest rates attack and I would not be at all

surprised to see some of this come from administra

tion as well as Congressional sources. On the

other hand, it would expose us to attack from the

larger banks--and one difficult to gainsay--to

raise Q ceilings, once more in order to avoid a

drastic blockage of fund flows.

(4) Cushioning operations at a time when

we are normally supplying reserves will necessitate

much larger open market operations and there would

be technical difficulties involved in such an

action.

In summary, I think the timing of the action

would be unwise in the light of current market

developments, of an impending prime rate increase

(and without an FOMC meeting providing a forum

for full discussion of the integration of our

I question whether the desired

instruments).

differential effect will be accomplished and think

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there is a real risk that it will necessitate

System action either to expand reserves or to

raise Q ceilings to avoid undue blockage. And,

finally, it seems to me that further credit

tightening could better be achieved with a

further gradual tightening of open market

operations, subject to a full review by the

FOMC on August 23, 1966.

Subsequent to my memorandum the Board rejected the

proposal to increase reserve requirements, the prime rate

was then raised, Secretary Fowler publicly rebuked the

banks, and the Board majority then went ahead with an

increase in reserve requirements--an action which I did

not share and would not have shared had I been present.

Following last Wednesday's action we have, of course,

had, as I see it, the worst of all possible worlds--a

resultant sharp runup in interest rates, with serious

talk of another prime rate increase, and weakness in the

pound sterling also not unrelated to our recent action.

In evaluating where all of these developments leave

us and lead us today, I am impressed by the views expressed

by members of the Dillon Committee at their meeting last

Friday. This committee, comprising some of the top minds

in the country on international and national financial

matters, did not discuss the Federal Reserve's latest

action in their joint session with Government officials

which I attended. Apparently, however, they did review

it thoroughly in their own deliberations prior to meeting

with Government officials. And one member of the Dillon

Committee told me that they were all extremely critical

of the action, using fairly strong language in the process.

Only one member of the group (which, of course, includes

Messrs. Dillon, Heller, Gordon, Rockefeller, Roosa,

Kindleberger, Mayer, Wilde, and Bernstein) defended the

action and then only if it was aimed solely at raising

slightly the cost of CD money and assuming the reserve

impact would be completely offset by open market opera

tions. Some of the reasoning of those critical of the

Fed's move did appear in the joint discussions and I

think is worth noting. The view generally seemed to be

that we were closer to precipitating a financial crisis

than anyone in Washington realized; that while monetary

policy should not "lose its nerve" it was indeed biting

and biting hard--now--even on business loans; that if it

had been left alone the market and credit situation would

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have tightened itself more than sufficiently; but that

the further stress induced by our action could serve

to provoke a crisis or, at best, be self-defeating

because of our efforts to prevent such a crisis. There

was an unequivocal statement of the Dillon Committee

addressed to the Secretary of the Treasury that what

was lacking on the Washington side was a clear voice

and sense of purposeful direction and guidance. I

might mention also that one of the factors cited as

contributing to the over-taut market situation was the

continuing stream of agency issues and question was

raised as to whether there might be any way to defer

agency efforts to raise new money.

As I have thought about all of these matters in

terms of today's decisions, I am convinced that we

can allow very little, if any, of the increased

reserve requirement at this juncture to find its way

into the net borrowed reserve target. Absent that

Board action, I think we might very well have directed

the Manager of the Account to permit the credit markets

to further tighten themselves somewhat, or even to

probe cautiously toward a further reduction of avail

ability as market conditions permitted, against the

background of a slower pace of loan expansion, even

of business loans as indicated by weekly reporting

banks, of the inroads on bank liquid asset portfolios

that have taken place, of the significant volume of

CDs maturing soon--all leading to existing strong

pressures and even stronger pressures in September.

Next month's likely larger CD attritions can only

serve to add to the pressures on banks facing heavy

loan demands with reduced liquidity.

Thus, I now

conclude that we cannot utilize the most recent action

to produce further tightening but must instead think

about whether we should try to accelerate our seasonal

provision of reserves through open market operations

and similarly provide more of a cushion through the

discount window than is contemplated in the draft

memorandum on discount administration. Otherwise, I

think there is the danger of really disruptive interest

rate developments--disruptive to the financial markets

and the economy--and that risk is too great to run.

Unlike Mr. Robertson's view, expressed this morning,

that he is not bothered by interest rates, I am bothered,

and especially by their implications in terms of market

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pressures. Last Friday in our regular Board staff

discussion of these matters, I raised the question

of the possibility of a financial crisis. Privately

a staff member slipped me a not altogether facetious

note that the probability was ranked by one staff

member at 25 per cent, one member at 33-1/3 per cent,

and one member at 49.9 per cent (almost a 50-50 chance).

While I myself do not see the percentages really that

high, the fact that they exist at all in the judgment

of informed observers should, I think, give us cause

for concern. Frankly I still do not believe that the

kind of further interest rate escalation we see

emerging--escalation that held the Board back from

approving a discount rate change, yet was an inevitable

result of last week's action--should be welcomed by

us or by the administration. I am puzzled by the

seeming naivete of the view that cost and availability

of credit can be neatly separated and central bank

credit so channeled as to determine which loan demands

will be satisfied, all without putting severe pressure

on interest rates. All of whatever experience I have

myself had with financial markets suggests that this

cannot be done. To the extent that banks do not meet

commitments or satisfy borrowers' demands and these

demands turn elsewhere, the price of money inevitably

will go on up. The prime rate change undoubtedly

reflected the fact that large corporate issues required

more than 5-3/4 per cent and, without the prime rate

increase, bank corporate customers would have come in

for their total lines.

All I am saying is that monetary policy may have

produced about as tight a credit situation as we use

fully can. While it is important not to let up on the

restraint we have achieved, I think that we have

pushed about as far as we can at the moment, without

the buttress of adequate fiscal restraint, and are

now achieving all that we can hope for from monetary

policy alone. In saying, as we all have said, I

believe, at one time or another, that monetary policy

cannot do it all alone, I am anxious that we now not

try to disprove ourselves and bring about a financial

disorder either at home or abroad. I would not attempt

a firming of market conditions as per alternative B

and would perhaps provide reserves more willingly than

indicated in alternative A. I would eliminate the

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reference to supplying minimum reserves and suggest simply

maintaining about the current state of money market

conditions--accepting the Partee definition meaning no

relaxation--giving full flexibility to the Manager of the

Account and, as I have already indicated, relying on the

continuing good sense and efforts of our discount officers

without elaborate new rules and arrangements. I am not as

confidently certain as Mr. Robertson that there is no case

now for some realignment of the discount rate.

Mr. Mitchell said that if he understood Mr. Maisel correctly,

the latter was implying that the time might be close for a turn around.

As he (Mr. Mitchell) looked at the pertinent table in the green book,

it showed total loans and investments rising in July at an annual rate

of 10.9 per cent with increases of 8.7 per cent in June, 10.2 per cent

in 1965, and 8.7 per cent for 1966 to date.

While the rate of increase

was down in August, that was just like touching down an airplane that

might bounce and take off again.

There had not been nearly so much

of a touching down as to accomplish the objectives the Committee had

been striving for for a long time.

It seemed to him the rate of

expansion had to be down to the hoped-for August level for a while

before the Committee had achieved its goals.

He thought monetary

policy was biting, and had been, but he thought it could bite a little

more.

That was why he thought some further tightening was desirable.

Mr. Mitchell preferred alternative B of the draft directives,

although he could live with alternative A.

However, he had a change

to propose, recognizing that it would give the Manager a considerable

amount of leeway, probably more than he could use.

His suggestion

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was that the second paragraph of the directive read:

"To implement

this policy, System open market operations until the next meeting

of the Committee shall be conducted with a view to supplying the

minimum amount of reserves consistent with maintaining orderly

money market conditions and the moderation of unusual liquidity

pressures within the banking system; provided, however, that if

bank credit expands more rapidly than expected, operations shall

be conducted with a view to requiring still greater reliance on

borrowed reserves."

It would then be up to the Manager to judge

what it took to maintain orderly money market conditions and what

it took to moderate unusual liquidity pressures.

He thought the

Manager actually had been operating close to that standard for the

past couple of weeks.

He regarded it as an adequate standard and

thought it indicated where the Committee should stand in the next

few weeks.

Mr. Shepardson noted that several comments had been made

about the naive idea that credit availability could be affected

without a rate effect.

He did not know of anyone who had that idea.

The thing he was concerned about was that at times there had been

more emphasis on rate than availability.

was on reducing credit availability.

The emphasis needed now

While recognizing that there

would be a rate effect, he would look for the guideline at avail

ability, rather than rate.

He thought there had been rate

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adjustments in recent weeks and months that were not entirely

compatible with the amount of reduction in availability that had

been achieved.

He did not believe anyone at the table failed to

recognize that the degree of credit availability had an effect

on the rate, but the question was one of where the emphasis should

be placed in the economy of today.

Mr. Shepardson aligned himself with those who felt the

Committee should be pushing for some further gradual tightening.

He would accept alternative B as originally proposed, since the

philosophy embodied in that language reflected his thinking.

Mr. Wayne reported that although economic activity continued

strong in the Fifth District, the latest business survey of the

Richmond Reserve Bank contained a few indications of a slowing

trend.

In addition to a weaker trend in residential construction,

a variety of nondurable goods manufacturers now reported some

decline in new orders and backlogs.

Unemployment remained at very

low levels, however, and wages were continuing upward.

Nationally, Mr. Wayne added, the dominant question was

whether the economy was regaining in the third quarter some of the

momentum lost in the second.

The incomplete data now available

for July and early August were not sufficient, in his view, to provide

a conclusive answer.

In the policy area, it seemed to Mr. Wayne that a combina

tion of pronouncements and actions by the System was conveying to

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the banks and the financial markets the message of restraint.

If

high interest rates could be effective in curbing excess demand,

the present general level of rates should do the job, given time.

The critical factor now was to impose a firm restraint on the

availability of credit.

If that should produce still higher

interest rates, they would have to be accepted.

There was no

question as to the need for continuing restraint; the only question

was how it should be applied.

An increase in the discount rate

would be felt mainly through its announcement effects and would

probably drive up interest rates with little effect on reserve

availability.

It was true that the discount rate was far out of

line, but the market seemed to be accepting the new relationship.

Through firm administration of the discount window, borrowing had

been held to moderate levels and it was doubtful that any feasible

increase in the discount rate would change the demand for discounts

greatly.

Consequently, he believed an increase in the discount

rate would produce several undesirable effects without accomplishing

anything constructive.

In the current delicate situation, a sudden

move of the wrong kind could cause real trouble.

Mr. Wayne favored keeping the pressure about as it was and

as it had been for the past month, which meant that reserves would

have to be supplied, either through the discount window or in the

open market, to offset most of the additional reserves that would

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be required next month.

Alternative A of the draft directives

expressed his views adequately.

Mr. Clay commented that the basic problem with which the

national economy was faced continued to be one of overexuberance,

despite the variation among sectors of the economy.

Accordingly,

appropriate public policy required further measures of restraint,

including further restraint through monetary policy.

The Board of

Governors recently had taken a step in that direction through an

increase in reserve requirements on time deposits effective in

September.

Open market operations should be coordinated with that

action so that the added restraint involved in the reserve require

ment increase was made effective.

The Committee was faced with a number of uncertainties

that would have to be taken into account in implementing monetary

policy through open market operations, Mr. Clay pointed out.

Those included the various impacts upon the commercial banks and

the financial markets deriving from the demand for loans, tax and

dividend payments, CD liquidation, and the higher member bank

reserve requirements.

Recognition had to be given to the conver

gence of a number of those important financial developments as

mid-September approached and the unknown magnitude of their impact

upon the financial system.

Consequently, allowance had to be

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provided in the implementation of monetary policy to meet those

potentialities.

Alternative B of the draft directives appeared

satisfactory to him.

Mr. Scanlon reported that the trend of economic activity

in the Seventh District remained essentially unchanged in July

and early August.

With the exception of the automobile industry,

there had been no moderation of production gains by District

manufacturing firms.

Upward price pressures remained strong.

While unemployment increases had occurred in automobile centers,

other major District areas reported strong labor demand and

continuation of labor shortages.

Help-wanted advertising in

Chicago area newspapers in July increased 16 per cent, signif

icantly more than the 3 per cent gain posted last year.

According to a representative of a local steel firm,

Mr. Scanlon said, customers did not react adversely to the recent

steel price increase.

Although notice of the price hike was given

several days prior to the effective date of the increase, customers

did not take advantage of the opportunity to obtain supplies then

available at the lower prices.

As a result of unfavorable weather during July, crop

prospects in the Seventh District had been revised downward.

Corn

production was now expected to be below last year's level in

Illinois and Indiana.

Farmers might defer the marketing of 1966

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grain crops since the outlook was for strong prices.

Bankers had

noted that the seasonal deposit increase related to the harvest

might be somewhat less than originally expected.

Mortgage terms had continued to firm in the Seventh

District.

Bank loan figures continued to reflect heavy credit

demands by business, and bankers' statements in connection with

the recent prime rate boost indicated that they anticipated even

stronger demands through the fall.

Since midyear the growth in

business loans had been well above the experience in other recent

years, with the Seventh District relatively stronger than the nation

as a whole.

The major Chicago banks reported that they were following

restrictive loan policies; few commitments for term loans were

being made.

To a considerable extent, the higher volume of business

loans had been offset by liquidation of other types of loans,

probably reflecting tighter loan policies.

In addition, there had

been a marked decline in holdings of both U.S. and municipal secu

rities in the past few weeks.

While those developments had reduced

the rate of growth in over-all bank credit, they had also reduced

liquidity further.

The major Chicago banks showed an improved basic reserve

position compared with a month ago.

That was partly due to sales

of securities but also reflected their acquisition of a sizable

amount of CD money earlier this month and an even larger increase

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in other borrowings.

Nevertheless, those funds were short-term

and there was considerable apprehension as to how the banks would

meet CD maturities as well as meet the customer loan demand they

expected.

Mr. Scanlon noted that preliminary estimates indicated

some recent slowing in the growth of most monetary and credit

measures after sharp increases in July.

It appeared to him that

it would be appropriate to maintain the more moderate rate of

monetary and credit expansion in coming weeks.

The settling of

the airline strike and the increase in reserve requirements

effective mid-September should help to curb any tendency for more

than seasonal expansion in adjusted required reserves.

If those

conditions could be achieved within the existing degree of reserve

pressure, he would recommend such a course.

However, if continued

slower reserve expansion required greater reserve pressure, he

would favor moves to bring about that condition.

Mr. Scanlon felt that for economic reasons the discount

rate should be raised.

If the discount rate were brought more in

line with market rates, the System would be in a position to obtain

the announcement effect of large and prompt rate reductions if and

when they should prove desirable.

saw a downturn--quite the opposite.

That did not mean that he fore

He believed the longer one

operated with a rate disparity and the wider it developed, the

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more difficult it would become to find the "right time" for a

change.

He favored alternative B of the draft directives.

Mr. Galusha submitted the following statement for inclusion

in the record:

Ninth District conditions fairly well parallel those

set forth in the green book, with these exceptions:

In the main, the District's experience in the second

quarter, and continuing into the third, is somewhat more

bullish than that of the nation. Retail sales, for

example, rose strongly in the District during the second

quarter, while there was a distinct slow-down at the

national level.

Data for June and July indicate a strong comeback in

the industrial sector from the April-May pause. Impressive

gains were recorded in the mining industry, including metal

mining and petroleum, and continued expansion of taconite

production. Of the 15,950,000 gross tons of annual taconite

capacity under construction on June 21, all but 750,000 tons

were located in the Ninth District, primarily in Minnesota,

with one large development in the Upper Peninsula of

Michigan.

Agricultural conditions continue generally good in the

District, with the exception of southwestern Montana, which

is suffering from a severe drought, and areas of North

Dakota which are suffering from too much rain during the

critical period of wheat harvest. There is little expecta

tion that livestock prices will depart from 1965 levels to

any greater extent than presently prevail. Grain marketings

are uncertain at this point, partly for the reason mentioned

earlier, and partly because of an indicated tendency on the

part of farmers to hold grain for continued strengthening

of price. Because of this strengthening of price, however,

there is reason for the banking community to expect pressure

if there is a reversal of current farmer attitudes, whether

caused by a change in market expectations or crop damage,

which would affect its storage ability.

The general picture is one of high cash farm receipts,

which in turn will mean a continued high level of consumer

demand.

The need for an increase in monetary restraint continues

on balance. Wage settlements being made this summer, and

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the outcome of negotiations which will continue through

the next twelve months, are of a pattern. What evidence

of easing has occurred in some areas of the economy is

at least offset by continued exuberance in other parts.

The Vietnam requirements are certain to continue to

accelerate, particularly in the light of the most recent

developments in China. It might be argued that while

monetary policy has not been particularly effective in

curbing the present inflation--the current issue of the

Economist having likened it in terms of influence to

sun spots--it still is the only weapon being used.

Protestations of the banking industry notwithstanding,

one is left with a feeling that banks are meeting most

reasonable credit requests, and the term "reasonable"

is liberally construed.

The most compelling reason for a further increase

in monetary restraint, including an increase in the

discount rate in the near future, would be to free the

System from the position of technical imbalance with

market rates.

These arguments have been advanced with full

knowledge that there are political constraints which

may be thought persuasive against such an action now,

plus the industry pressure that would result from a

further increase in open market rates if Requlation Q

is not changed. There is the further argument advanced

by one of my colleagues that the current degree of

monetary restraint is so far from the average experience

of the last decade and a half that our quantitative

estimates of its impact may be quite poor. It may be

that under these circumstances the rate of inflation,

which at present is still of a modest order by world

standards, is a price that may have to be paid. However,

I am not persuaded that the case for greater monetary

restraint has been adequately defeated.

Mr. Galusha said he could accept either of the alternative

draft directives.

This was a period when flexibility of operations

would be needed, but at least the present degree of tautness should

be preserved.

It seemed to him the discount rate was in a ridiculous

position and there would have to be a technical adjustment.

There

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was little reason to believe that market rates were going to come

down very fast, and the longer the disparity existed the more

difficult it was going to be to change the discount rate.

Mr. Swan commented that although Twelfth District aero

space firms reported vigorous expansion in employment for the

second month in a row, total nonagricultural employment in the

Pacific Coast States remained about the same in July as in June.

With a decline in farm employment, the rate of unemployment rose

in July to 4.8 per cent, from 4.6 per cent in June.

On the financial side, Mr. Swan said that in the four weeks

ended August 10, total credit at weekly reporting banks declined

more than a year earlier, but by about the same relative amount as

elsewhere.

The decline in business loans was much greater than a

year earlier, and contrasted with an increase in the same period

this year at weekly reporting banks elsewhere in the U.S.

Large

negotiable CD's rose 6 per cent in the period, in contrast to a

decline of .6 per cent at weekly reporting banks outside the

District.

However, time deposits of States and political subdivi

sions declined; that was the one area where there was considerable

feeling at major banks that rate increases would be necessary to

hold the deposits.

The prime competition was from the Treasury

bill market rather than agency obligations.

There was still room

to raise the rates on that sort of time deposits, and presumably

that would be done.

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Looking back over the last four weeks, Mr. Swan was struck

by the fact that the Committee's directive a month ago referred

to "maintaining about the current state of net reserve availability

and related money market conditions."

Maybe net reserve avail

ability was at the lower end of the range in subsequent weeks, but

certainly not related money market conditions.

From the August

figures, it appeared that the changes in total reserves, required

reserves, and bank credit were somewhat less liberal than had been

expected.

In view of those developments, the substantially increased

rate structure, and the market uncertainties that existed, it seemed

to him the Committee should not take further action to tighten

irrespective of market forces.

Instead, he would consider it

desirable to maintain about the present market conditions, recog

nizing that they were tighter now than a month ago.

If credit

demands were stronger than expected, which he translated into the

6 per cent figure mentioned by Mr. Partee, then the Committee should

permit further tightening.

tighten.

Otherwise, he would neither ease nor

In trying to find some measure to relate that to, he had

somewhat the same feeling he assumed was in the minds of the staff

when they dropped the reference to net reserve availability; namely,

that the latter could not be used very well in view of the prospect

of substantially increased borrowing.

If this occurred, he would

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expect some increase in net borrowed reserves, but that would be

hard to interpret in terms of money market conditions.

While he had been thinking in terms of alternative A of

the draft directives, Mr. Swan welcomed Mr. Mitchell's language.

He thought it was an improvement over either of the draft

alternatives, so he would support that sort of directive if the

reference to bank credit expanding more rapidly than expected

tied into the 6 per cent projection.

He believed that a decision

on the question of a discount rate increase could not be delayed

much longer.

He would hope it would not be necessary to wait

until substantial borrowings were already on the books.

The

executive committee of the Board of Directors of the San Francisco

Bank took no action to increase the rate at its last meeting, but

expressed much the same kind of concern that had been mentioned

by Mr. Hayes.

Mr. Irons said conditions in the Eleventh District were

very strong, probably reflecting some of the same factors being

reflected nationally.

Nationally the situation was one of strong

inflationary pressures, in his judgment, and called for no lessening

in the degree of restraint that the Committee had been attempting

to achieve.

It seemed to him that monetary policy had been

effective recently in influencing the attitude of banks.

As to

the uncertainties associated with the anticipated mid-September

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runoff of CD's, that might be something like the situation that

was feared with respect to savings deposits a month or so ago;

the situation might turn out to be not as bad as expected, even

though significant strains might affect banks and markets.

In view of the illiquidity of banks and the effect of

the change in reserve requirements, Mr. Irons felt that a reason

was indicated for trying to maintain for a time about the same

degree of tightness that had been experienced in the market up to

this point.

He had had in mind that he would favor alternative A

of the draft directives for the period ahead, but he liked the

modification offered by Mr. Mitchell because it seemed to reflect

what the Committee was really trying to do.

The Committee was

trying to get all the restraint it could in the market, but at

the same time to maintain orderly conditions.

modification pointed that up clearly.

Mr. Mitchell's

If what the Committee was

trying to achieve could be achieved, well and good.

If not, then

the Committee should not force matters, with money market conditions

as they were and with the uncertainties that loomed ahead around

mid-September.

Mr. Robertson withdrew from the meeting at this point.

Mr. Ellis said that within the framework of generally high

and rising economic activity in New England, three aspects might

be highlighted.

First, District mutual savings banks reported

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downward changes in July deposit balances for the first time in

many years.

Even though new July deposits were up 24 per cent

and interest credits were up 19 per cent compared with July 1965,

withdrawals were up an even greater 47 per cent.

was a .06 per cent decline.

The net change

Second, the District's member banks

continued to gain savings and other time deposits at rates

substantially above the national average.

Third, the region was

not experiencing a slow-down in construction, not even residential

construction.

New England total construction contracts in June

rose 45 per cent above June 1965.

For the first six months the

total stood 34 per cent above the same six months in 1965.

Residential contracts in June exceeded June 1965 by 6 per cent,

and the first six months showed a 9 per cent year-to-year gain.

June building permits in Massachusetts were up 20 per cent from

last year, for a six-month cumulative gain of 19 per cent.

Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Ellis said it was fairly

evident that the economy remained tilted toward inflation.

Demand

pressures of Government expenditures, capital outlays, and probable

expansion in consumer spending indicated the likelihood of a further

trend in that direction in the fall.

To the cost pressures of wage

settlements in excess of productivity gains were added the escalation

of wages to match cost of living increases.

Credit creation continued

excessive, especially after the long period of expansion.

The

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objective as long ago as last December was to slow credit creation,

but the record showed acceleration in business loans, total loans,

total credit, and reserves.

There had been three weeks now in

which the rate of growth seemed less than expected, but, as

Mr. Mitchell had said, one touchdown does not make a safe landing.

He expected that demands ahead in the fall were going to produce

another take-off in the loan category.

Mr. Ellis agreed with Mr. Brimmer's analysis that the

Committee's posture should be one of gradual tightening.

It was

simply a question of the next step, and his answer to that question

rested on two convictions.

First, he felt that the September

"crisis" would turn out to be quite manageable without special

programs to soften the impact of expected developments.

He recalled

the special efforts to soften the July "crisis" that was supposed

to occur at savings and loan associations and mutual savings banks.

Actually, the period passed without great strain.

foresee and plan ahead, they did so.

When banks could

The principal potential

problems were faced by large sophisticated banks.

CD deposits were

not going to disappear altogether, although they might shift in

form and location.

The existing mechanism of the discount window

would provide whatever cushion was needed.

His second conviction

was that the Committee should continue to focus its attention on

aggregate reserve availability, and its cost, rather than attempt

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to tailor a program that sought to allocate credit by categories,

at some risk of lessened attention to changes in the aggregates.

Mr. Ellis said those convictions led him to suggest, as

a first point, that the Committee should tighten the net borrowed

reserve target another notch, by perhaps $50 or $100 million.

Net borrowed reserves had averaged $400 million the past three

weeks, and he would suggest that the target be moved to $500

million, plus or minus $50 million.

He suggested this target

knowing that the Committee would meet again only a few business

days after the effective date of the reserve requirement change.

It could well postpone until that time an appraisal of how much

the effect on reserves should be offset.

If borrowings at the

discount window rose substantially above the $800 million average

of the past several periods, he would add the excess to the net

borrowed reserve target.

That would provide a cushioning reserve

to those banks that needed it, while not losing the effect of

some general tightening on other banks.

Banks had already been

advised that the window would be available for distress cases.

If that course were followed, Mr. Ellis said, he would

expect market rates to rise if credit demands turned out to be

as excessive as projected by bankers to whom he had talked.

Having permitted the rate of bank credit expansion that it had

since December, the Committee could hardly expect to accelerate

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credit growth enough to forestall further rate increases this fall

if the demand continued to expand as much as he had been told it

was going to expand.

Even the 6 per cent projected rate of credit

growth associated with the "no change" alternative directive would

not insure rate stability.

If action such as he had described were taken, Mr. Ellis

continued, he would reinforce it by lifting the discount rate

from 4-1/2 per cent to 5-1/2 per cent when practicable.

Inter

nationally, that would confirm the System's intention to fight

inflation, and it would confirm that the discount rate was still

a tool of monetary policy.

It would buttress reliance on the

window without attracting less urgent borrowing seeking to take

advantage of the present bargain rate.

It would clear the air

of uncertainty as to whether or when the discount rate would be

changed.

Further, the longer the System waited to move the more

difficult it would be to change the rate.

Mr. Ellis said he welcomed the Manager's advice that he

proposed to make repurchase agreements at rates above the discount

rate.

The Manager knew, of course, that the nonbank dealers were

going to protest and charge discrimination.

As to the directive, Mr. Ellis said that alternative B was

his choice.

While he could support Mr. Mitchell's intent, he

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rejected his language as really constituting a "no change" directive.

He preferred a directive that called for gradual firming.

Mr. Hayes said it was his impression that the differences

expressed in the go-around were not enormous.

While he would not

want to minimize them too much, they appeared to represent primarily

differences in shading, both in interpreting where things had been

going on the credit side recently and in interpreting the degree

of danger that might be faced in financial markets and the risk for

the near-term of rising rates.

But the differences seemed rather

marginal, as exemplified by the fact that several persons had said

that either of the alternative draft directives was acceptable to

them.

It appeared to him from his tally that the preferences were

very close, with possibly a little shading toward alternative B.

Perhaps, however, Mr. Mitchell's proposal represented a compromise

solution that would be generally satisfactory.

Mr. Sherman said Mr. Robertson had stated before he left

the meeting that Mr. Mitchell's proposed language would be acceptable

to him.

After the Secretary had read Mr. Mitchell's proposed language,

Mr. Hayes said he was not quite clear as to what the proviso clause

meant in view of the preceding language to the effect that a minimum

of reserves was to be provided consistent with maintaining orderly

conditions and avoiding unusual liquidity pressures.

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would be expected to "skate close to the edge" if the credit proxy

seemed to be going up faster than expected.

He thought that in

the light of today's discussion the Manager knew that the Committee

wanted to achieve a little firming if it could do so.

Mr. Holmes said he assumed that what was wanted was as

much restraint as could be achieved without leading to a financial

crisis.

It was his understanding that a 6 per cent rate of growth

in the credit proxy would be acceptable to those at the table.

That

was what was presently expected for September, but it might turn out

to be far different.

If it did turn out different and the expansion

was greater than 6 per cent, then he would move toward deeper net

borrowed reserves and tighter money market conditions, to the extent,

however, that there were no liquidity pressures such as to require

attention.

Mr. Hayes commented that the Manager evidently felt that

the proviso clause would not prevent his paying adequate attention

to orderly market conditions and Mr. Holmes replied that he thought

it would not.

As he understood it, the reference to liquidity

pressures carried through the whole flavor of the directive.

He

added that he would "skate a little closer to the edge" if credit

expansion rose sharply.

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Mr. Ellis said he did not want it on record that everyone

around the table accepted a 6 per cent rate of credit growth for

September.

Such a rate was not acceptable to him.

Mr. Shepardson

agreed.

Mr. Hayes said he felt sure there were differences of

opinion on the exact figure, but something on that order was what

he thought people had in mind as the consensus.

Mr. Bopp suggested that the policy record entry for today's

meeting should make clear that that did not mean that the Committee

was prepared to tolerate disorderly conditions if bank credit expanded

more than anticipated.

Mr. Brimmer recalled that he had expressed a rather strong

preference for alternative B.

He hesitated to dissent from the

consensus, but he would like the record to show that he was not

happy about the prospect of a 6 per cent increase.

If the increase

fell short of that figure, he would feel better, and he would

encourage the Manager to "skate a little closer to the edge."

He

was unhappy that the word "firming" had been lost from the directive.

Mr. Daane said he preferred alternative A to alternative B,

even in the amended version, but he would not record a dissent from

the directive.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York was

authorized and directed, until otherwise

8/23/66

-101directed by the

transactions in

accordance with

economic policy

Committee, to execute

the System Account in

the following current

directive:

The economic and financial developments reviewed

at this meeting indicate that over-all domestic economic

activity is expanding more rapidly than in the second

quarter, despite further weakening in residential con

struction. Recent wage and price developments suggest

that inflationary pressures are becoming more intense.

Credit demands continue strong, financial markets have

tightened further, and interest rates have risen sub

stantially in an atmosphere of great uncertainty. The

balance of payments continues to reflect a sizable under

lying deficit. In this situation, it is the Federal Open

Market Committee's policy to resist inflationary pressures

and to strengthen efforts to restore reasonable equilibrium

in the country's balance of payments, by restricting the

growth in the reserve base, bank credit, and the money

supply.

To implement this policy, System open market

operations until the next meeting of the Committee shall

be conducted with a view to supplying the minimum amount

of reserves consistent with the maintenance of orderly

money market conditions and the moderation of unusual

liquidity pressures; provided, however, that if bank

credit expands more rapidly than expected, operations

shall be conducted with a view to seeking still greater

reliance on borrowed reserves.

It was agreed that the next meeting of the Committee would be

held on Tuesday, September 13, 1966, at 9:30 a.m.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

August 22, 1966.

Drafts of Current Economic Policy Directive for Consideration by the

Federal Open Market Committee at its Meeting on August 23, 1966.

First paragraph

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting indicate that over-all domestic economic activity is

expanding more rapidly than in the second quarter, despite further

weakening in residential construction. Recent wage and price

developments suggest that inflationary pressures are becoming more

intense. Credit demands continue strong, financial markets have

tightened further, and interest rates have risen substantially.

The balance of payments continues to reflect a sizable underlying

deficit. In this situation, it is the Federal Open Market Com

mittee's policy to resist inflationary pressures and to strengthen

efforts to restore reasonable equilibrium in the country's balance

of payments, by restricting the growth in the reserve base, bank

credit, and the money supply.

Second paragraph

Alternative A (no change, with qualification)

To implement this policy, while taking account of potential

liquidity pressures within the banking system, System open market

operations until the next meeting of the Committee shallbe conducted

with a view to supplying the minimum amount of reserves consistent

with maintenance of the current state of money market conditions;

provided, however, that if bank credit expands more rapidly than

expected, operations shall be conducted with a view to requiring

greater reliance on borrowed reserves.

Alternative B (firming, with qualification)

To implement this policy, System open market operations

the

next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a

until

the minimum amount of reserves consistent with

to

supplying

view

gradual

firming of money market conditions, except as

a

attaining

changes may be needed to moderate unusual liquidity pressures

within the banking system; provided, however, that if bank credit

expands more rapidly than expected, operations shall be conducted

with a view to requiring still greater reliance on borrowed

reserves.

Cite this document
APA
Federal Reserve (1966, August 22). FOMC Minutes. Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve. https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19660823
BibTeX
@misc{wtfs_fomc_minutes_19660823,
  author = {Federal Reserve},
  title = {FOMC Minutes},
  year = {1966},
  month = {Aug},
  howpublished = {Fomc Minutes, Federal Reserve},
  url = {https://whenthefedspeaks.com/doc/fomc_minutes_19660823},
  note = {Retrieved via When the Fed Speaks corpus}
}