fomc minutes · April 3, 1967

FOMC Minutes

A meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee was held in

the offices of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

in Washington, D. C.,

PRESENT.

Mr.

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on Tuesday, April 4, 1967, at 9:30 a.m.

Martin, Chairman

Hayes, Vice Chairman

Brimmer

Daane

Francis

Maisel

Mitchell

Robertson

Scanlon

Shepardson

Swan

Wayne

Messrs. Ellis, Hickman, Patterson, and Galusha,

Alternate Members of the Federal Open Market

Committee

Messrs. Bopp and Irons, Presidents of the Federal

Reserve Banks of Philadelphia and Dallas,

respectively

Mr. Holland, Secretary

Mr. Sherman, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Kenyon, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Broida, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Molony, Assistant Secretary

Mr. Hackley, General Counsel

Mr. Brill, Economist

Messrs. Baughman, Craven, Jones, Koch, Partee,

and Solomon, Associate Economists

Mr. Holmes, Manager, System Open Market Account

Mr. Coombs, Special Manager, System Open

Market Account

Mr. Cardon, Legislative Counsel, Board of Governors

Mr. Fauver, Assistant to the Board of Governors

Mr. Williams, Adviser, Division of Research and

Statistics, Board of Governors

Mr. Reynolds, Adviser, Division of International

Finance, Board of Governors

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Mr. Axilrod, Associate Adviser, Division of

Research and Statistics, Board of Governors

Miss Eaton, General Assistant, Office of

the Secretary, Board of Governors

Miss McWhirter, Analyst, Office of the

Secretary, Board of Governors

Messrs. Link, Eastburn, Mann, Brandt, Tow,

and Green, Vice Presidents of the

Federal Reserve Banks of New York,

Philadelphia, Cleveland, Atlanta, Kansas

City, and Dallas, respectively

Messrs. Meek and Snellings, Assistant Vice

Presidents of the Federal Reserve Banks

of New York and Richmond, respectively

Mr. Arena, Financial Economist, Federal

Reserve Bank of Boston

Mr. Kareken, Consultant, Federal Reserve

Bank of Minneapolis

Chairman Martin said that he felt honored to have been asked

by the President to continue to serve in the capacity of Chairman

of the Board of Governors, and would do his best to fulfill the

responsibilities of that office.

He considered his redesignation

as Chairman not as a tribute to himself but as an indication of the

attitude of the President toward the System and the importance of

its work.

He regretted that the President had not found himself

able to waive the provisions of law that required Mr. Shepardson to

retire from the Board at the end of this month rather than continuing

to serve until the end of his term in January 1968.

However, he

fully understood the President's position, and he thought Mr. Shepardson

did also.

It was clear from his conversations with the President

that the decision was based on a desire to carry out Civil Service

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retirement procedures.

Unless the Committee happened to hold a

special meeting later this month, today's meeting would be the

last that Mr

Shepardson would attend.

He was sure that all of

the Committee members shared his feeling that it had been a priv

ilege to have served in the System with Mr. Shepardson over the past

thirteen years.

Mr. Hayes, speaking as Vice Chairman of the Committee,

expressed the sense of pleasure that he knew everyone present had

felt on learning of Mr. Martin's redesignation.

Upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the minutes of the meeting of the

Federal Open Market Committee held

on March 7, 1967, were approved.

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Special Manager of the System Open

Market Account on foreign exchange market conditions and on Open Market

Account and Treasury operations in foreign currencies for the period

March 7 through March 29, 1967, and a supplemental report for March 30

through April 3, 1967.

Copies of these reports have been placed in

the files of the Committee.

In comments supplementing the written reports, Mr. Coombs

said that the Treasury gold stock was unchanged again this week.

The Stabilization Fund now had roughly $75 million of gold on hand,

with no important orders in sight.

In addition, the Canadians would

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be selling $50 million in gold to the United States tomorrow, so

the Stabilization Fund might well end up the month with a comfortable

balance of more than $120 million.

On the London gold market, Mr. Coombs continued, South

African deliveries continued to run well above normal and enabled

the London gold pool to take in $18 million during March.

The pool

now had available a reserve of $106 million, which would provide a

useful cushion when the flow of gold from South Africa returned to

normal--or what was perhaps more likely, subnormal--levels during

coming months.

Sterling was in very strong demand throughout March,

Mr. Coombs said.

The Bank of England took in a total of nearly $700

million in what was probably the best month sterling had ever had.

Of that gross inflow, only $90 million had been allotted to a

reserve increase that was being announced today; $350 million had

been used to pay off central bank debt, including a $100 million

payment to the Federal Reserve early in the month; and a sizable

reduction in forward contract liabilities also was made.

The March

debt repayments left $180 million still outstanding at month-end

under the so-called sterling balance credit arrangement, and that

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figure was reduced to $150 million yesterday.

1/ A sentence has been deleted at this point for one of the reasons

cited in the preface. The sentence cited figures on the Bank of

England's obligations to foreign central banks and in the forward

market as of the previous summer.

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In

effect, they had now repaid all but $150 million of their central

bank debt, as well as substantially reducing their forward commit

ments.

That represented a tremendous turnaround in their position.

He would hope that the publication today of good figures for March

would give further stimulus to the demand for sterling, and that

April would start off well.

Mr. Coombs added that near the end of March the United

States had sold to the Bank of England a total of $56 million of

sterling, divided equally between System and Treasury account, that

had been held under that Bank's guarantee.

If sterling remained

strong during April, he thought it would be wise to reduce the

holdings of guaranteed sterling substantially further in order to

reconstitute, as far as possible, a facility that had proved

extremely useful in several difficult situations during the past

eighteen months.

The Bank of England had no objection to such a

procedure as long as it was not carried to the point at which it

would impair their end-of-month reserve position.

Elsewhere on the exchanges, Mr. Coombs reported, the German

mark remained extremely strong, mainly owing to the reemergence of

a huge trade surplus.

Much of the dollar inflow was being channeled

back into the international credit markets, however, and the Bundesbank

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had, in any event, undertaken to refrain for the time being from

converting into gold any increases in its dollar reserves.

Finally, Mr. Coombs said, there were indications that France

might be slipping more deeply into deficit.

In the next day or so

the Bank of France might be announcing another reserve loss of $15

or $20 million for March, despite the fact that during the course

of the month the Bank of England had purchased $80 million of French

francs in anticipation of debt repayments to the International

Monetary Fund.

That would suggest that during March the French

deficit might have run close to $100 million.

In conclusion, Mr. Coombs noted that after the last Basle

meeting he had stopped off in Copenhagen and Oslo to discuss with

the central banks of Denmark and Norway the possibility of their

joining the swap network, with lines of $100 million each, after

they had achieved Article VIII status.

interest, as they had earlier.

Both central banks indicated

They had a good many questions

regarding the purposes and operating details of the arrangements;

the visits gave him an opportunity to answer such questions and to

point out the mutual advantages of the swap arrangements and the

responsibilities undertaken by members of the network.

On the basis

of those rather brief visits he thought the Danes and Norwegians

could be relied on to take an appropriate attitude toward any arrange

ments the System might make with them.

As to timing, Denmark probably

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would be able to qualify for Article VIII status at almost any

moment.

Norway had somewhat more complicated problems which, while

not serious, might delay their attaining Article VIII status for a

few weeks after the Danes had done so.

Both central banks preferred

to join the network simultaneously, but there was some feeling on

the part of the Danes that they might wish to negotiate with the

System separately if the Norwegians did not resolve their problems

within a reasonable time.

He would hope to have some definite

action to recommend to the Committee later in the month, or at

least by the time of the next meeting.

Mr. Hayes asked how Mr. Coombs viewed the near-term outlook

for monetary policy actions abroad.

Mr. Coombs replied that last week, in his opinion, the

Bundesbank had been close to a decision to cut its discount rate

again, from 4 to 3-1/2 per cent, and he hoped that they would take

such action soon.

If the Germans moved, the British probably would

follow, and there might be a round of one-half per cent decreases

by central banks.

What action the System did or did not take on

the discount rate this week would have a bearing on developments

abroad; a reduction of 1/2 per cent in the Federal Reserve discount

rate might well trigger fairly widespread cuts of the same size by

European central banks.

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Mr. Brimmer asked how the European central banks might react

to a 1/4 per cent reduction in the Federal Reserve discount rate.

Mr. Coombs replied that he could only guess at the answer.

He suspected that while a 1/2 per cent reduction in the U.S. discount

rate would make it highly probable that there would be widespread

similar reductions abroad, a 1/4 per cent reduction by the U.S. might

inject an element of uncertainty in the minds of European central

bankers, perhaps leading to less widespread and less decisive actions

on their part.

Mr. Brimmer then asked about the likely effects of a general

round of discount rate reductions on flows of funds between the

Euro-dollar market and the U.S.

Mr. Coombs replied that if the discount rate--and, more par

ticularly, the CD rate--in the U.S. came down, the impact on the

flows in question would depend in large measure on whether Euro-dollar

rates fell sympathetically.

Developments in the Euro-dollar market

were always difficult to predict; rates there were sticky at times,

and they might remain sticky after other interest rates here and

abroad moved down.

In that eventuality it might be desirable to

arrange for the Bank for International Settlements to draw again on

its swap line with the System and to put a moderate amount of money

into the Euro-dollar market in order to nudge the rates down.

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Mr. Daane commented that he had talked with officials of the

Bank of England last week, while in London enroute to the G-10

meeting.

From those conversations he felt that Mr. Coombs was quite

correct in saying that both Britain and Germany were poised to lower

their discount rates, and that a reduction in the Federal Reserve

discount rate might well trigger action by them.

They were likely to

act whether the U.S. reduction was 1/2 or 1/4 per cent, although

that choice might affect the sizes of their reductions and the extent

to which similar actions spread to other countries.

Mr. Hickman asked whether the U.S. would not be in a better

position with respect to the Euro-dollar market if the Federal

Reserve discount rate was lowered by 1/4 per cent, assuming other

central banks made 1/2 per cent cuts.

Mr. Coombs replied that the outcome would depend primarily on

the response of the CD rate and the Federal funds rate here, and the

changes in Euro-dollar rates on comparable maturities.

Upon motion duly made and

seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the System open market transactions

in foreign currencies during the

period March 7 through April 3,

1967, were approved, ratified, and

confirmed.

Mr. Coombs noted that the standby reciprocal currency arrange

ment with the Bank of France, in the amount of $100 million, would

reach the end of its three-month term on May 10, 1967.

He recommended

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renewal of that arrangement at that time for a further period of three

months.

Renewal of the $100 million standby

swap arrangement with the Bank of France

for a further period of three months was

approved.

Chairman Martin suggested that the Committee continue its

discussion, begun at the preceding meeting, of the possible inclusion

of Mexico and Venezuela in the swap network.

He invited Mr. Mitchell

to comment.

Mr. Mitchell noted that Mexico had already attained Article VIII

status.

He knew of no reason for not inviting that country to join

the swap network, and he understood that the Treasury favored such a

step.

Accordingly, he thought the Committee should consider asking

the Special Manager to discuss the question with the Mexicans.

Venezuela had not yet achieved Article VIII status, and the present

case for a swap line with that country was not so clear.

However, they

had bought gold in the past and he was not sure that the question

should not be explored with them also.

Mr. Coombs said that recently he had been moving increasingly

to the view that if swap arrangements were made with Denmark and

Norway it would be well to take a similar step with Mexico.

On

checking with Treasury officials before approaching the Danes and

Norwegians, he found that they not only favored arrangements with those

countries but volunteered that they also would take a favorable view

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with respect to Mexico.

He gathered that they might have reservations

about including Venezuela at this time, but would put no obstacles in

the way of possible future action.

In general, it would be his

inclination to take the initiative with respect to negotiating with

Mexico, but not to do so with Venezuela until they had achieved

Article VIII status.

Mr. Mitchell agreed with Mr. Coombs' conclusion, primarily

because only Mexico qualified at the moment.

However, he felt it was

important to recognize that the Venezuelans were highly sensitive

about their position relative to Mexico.

While he had no specific

procedure to recommend, he thought that the Committee should proceed

carefully, in full awareness that questions of national prestige were

involved.

Mr. Hayes agreed that it would be desirable to include Mexico

in the swap network, but he was doubtful about Venezuela at this

point.

While he was not in a position to assess fully the importance

of the sensitivity problem, he hoped the Committee would not act

prematurely on a swap arrangement with Venezuela simply because of

that problem.

On the other hand, if the sensitivity of Venezuela

was considered sufficiently serious, that could be a reason for

delaying the Mexican arrangement.

He would prefer to act on Mexico

alone now, while not precluding the possibility of including Venezuela

in the network later.

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Chairman Martin suggested that the best way of dealing with

the problem might be to hold discussions with Venezuelan officials

as well as Mexican, explaining the standards for membership in the

network and pointing out the differences between their status and

that of Mexico.

Mr. Daane said that in his discussions with Treasury officials

they had evidenced more enthusiasm about System swap arrangements

with Mexico and Venezuela than with Denmark and Norway.

He had not

gotten the impression that they made the sharp distinction between

Mexico and Venezuela that Mr. Coombs had suggested.

Mr. Coombs commented that he and Mr. Daane may have talked

with different officials at the Treasury who held dissimilar views.

In any case, since Venezuela had not yet attained Article VIII status

they were not immediately eligible.

Mr. Wayne expressed the hope that the System would not enter

into a swap arrangement with a country that had not achieved

Article VIII status simply because of a desire by that country to

enhance its prestige.

Mexico met the Article VIII requirement, but

unless other countries did so he would not favor entering into swap

agreements with them.

Chairman Martin thought Mr. Wayne's point was well taken; the

Committee should not let questions of sensitivity be controlling.

At

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the same time, it would be worthwhile to make sure that the

Venezuelans understood what the standards for membership in the net

work were.

Mr. Mitchell thought that Venezuela probably would undertake

to meet the standards once they understood the importance of doing

so.

Mr. Wayne referred to Mr. Coombs' earlier suggestion that

one's impression of the Treasury's views regarding the desirability

of particular swap lines might depend on the Treasury official with

whom one talked.

While he would not propose that the Committee

should give the Treasury veto power in connection with all such

decisions, the importance of coordination with the Treasury had been

recognized from the outset of the System's foreign currency

operations.

Accordingly, he thought the Committee should not move

ahead on expanding the network without clarification of the Treasury's

position.

Mr.

Solomon reported that he had talked recently with Under

Secretary of the Treasury Deming, and had checked with the Deputy

of the Assistant Secretary of State for Economic Affairs, about the

fact that the Committee was studying the possibility of enlarging the

swap network.

He had been informed that both the Treasury and the

State Department were agreeable to the inclusion of Denmark and Norway,

and both were receptive to the inclusion of the Latin American countries

if they met the requirements.

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Mr. Hayes said that while, as he had indicated, he was

sympathetic to a swap arrangement with Mexico he now wondered whether

it might not be better to hold exploratory conversations with both

Mexico and Venezuela rather than to go ahead on an arrangement with

Mexico and present Venezuela with a fait accompli.

The Venezuelans'

attitude might be better if they were given an advance indication

of the Committee's intentions.

Chairman Martin commented that the Committee today might

authorize the Special Manager to discuss possible swap arrangements

with both Mexico and Venezuela, looking toward their inclusion in

the network if they met the standards.

Mr. Hayes remarked that he had the impression from the staff

paper on Venezuela that that country might fail to meet standards

for membership in the network other than the technical one involving

Article VIII status.

He would be reluctant to move ahead in connec

tion with Venezuela without further discussion within the Committee.

Chairman Martin said he thought the major question was

whether Venezuela would attain Article VIII status.

As he had

indicated, he thought the Committee might simply authorize discussions

with Mexico and Venezuela concerning the swap network, on the

understanding that Mexico probably could now meet the standards for

inclusion in the network and that Venezuela would be informed as to

what the standards were.

He personally had talked at some length with

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the Venezuelans, and they were aware of the problems in their case.

The object of further conversations with them was to minimize their

sensitivity to a possible approval of a swap arrangement with Mexico

if the Committee should decide to take that action.

But he would

suggest that the Committee defer action until Mr. Coombs had held

exploratory talks and brought recommendations back to the Committee.

No objection was raised to the Chairman's suggestion.

Chairman Martin then invited Mr. Daane to report on develop

ments at the recent meeting of the Deputies of the Group of Ten.

Mr. Daane noted that the Deputies had met in The Hague on

March 30 and 31 and April 1.

The bulk of the discussion was

concentrated on two illustrative schemes that the Fund's staff had

developed--one on a new reserve unit basis and one on a drawing right

facility basis.

The technical discussion of the two schemes by the

Deputies had been quite useful and productive.

It was clear that at

least from a technical standpoint it was quite feasible to contemplate

an agreement on a contingency plan for new assets.

However, over

hanging the discussion was the political problem posed by the attitude

of the French.

The question was whether or not the French would go

along with a new asset and, if not, whether the other members of the

Common Market would be willing to go along without the French.

The

political question was likely to be resolved in the very near future;

the Monetary Commission of the European Economic Community was

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scheduled to meet on April 6, and the Ministers and Governors of

the Common Market would meet in mid-April.

In any event, Mr. Daane continued, the political problem

made it much more likely that some form of a drawing rights scheme

would emerge if the negotiations were successful.

The difficulty

was that there was a whole spectrum of types of drawing rights,

ranging all the way from some modest extension of existing drawing

rights to the other extreme of transferable drawing rights that

would be scarcely distinguishable from a new reserve unit.

The

French as well as the Belgians were clinging to the lower end of

the spectrum, but in his judgment the position they favored would

not solve the problem with which the Deputies had been strugglingnamely, the development of a new asset that would be a satisfactory

supplement to gold.

The U.S. position was that while on balance it

would still favor a new unit, it had never ruled out a drawing right;

indeed, the original U.S. proposal had included provision for both.

It was necessary to keep in mind, however, that there were differences

in types of drawing rights, and that there was a real risk of being

drawn into agreement on a compromise type of drawing right that would

not represent a meaningful solution to the problem.

Perhaps the most important point made at the meeting,

Mr. Daane said, was an observation by Chairman Emminger toward the

close of the session.

He noted that the Deputies faced a dilemma:

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was necessary, on one hand, to give reassurance to those who stressed

the desirability of changing existing monetary institutions in an

evolutionary way; and on the other hand it was necessary to convince

the financial markets that the problem of constructing an acceptable

supplement to gold was being dealt with effectively.

Mr. Hayes said he was not sure one had to assume that what

ever decision was reached in the first instance would necessarily

represent the final answer to the problem of the shortages of gold

that might develop over the years.

Perhaps agreement at this time

on a drawing right that was unlike a new unit could be considered a

constructive result, with the thought in mind that it would be

possible to approach more closely to a new unit by agreements reached

at some later date.

In reply, Mr. Daane noted that the current discussions had

been underway for some time.

If they concluded with agreement on

nothing more than a modest extension of existing drawing rights, it

would be highly unlikely, in his judgment, that one could expect

agreement within a reasonable time on a new unit that would meet the

need for secular growth in reserves.

It would be another matter, of

course, if agreement could be reached now on a series of sequential

moves.

But to take a small first step without agreement on succeeding

steps was not likely to lead to a solution.

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Mr. Brimmer asked whether different members of the U.S.

delegation had taken different positions in the discussions.

Mr. Daane replied in the negative, noting that the Treasury

representative acted as spokesman for the United States and set

forth the position of the Administration.

Chairman Martin then noted that the Committee had agreed at

its preceding meeting to continue the discussion today of its policy

with respect to publication of information on drawings under the

System swap network and on other System foreign currency operations.

Observing that Mr. Robertson had offered a proposed statement of

policy at the previous meeting, the Chairman invited him to comment.

Mr. Robertson said that it seemed to him incumbent upon the

Committee to have a definite policy in this regard and not to rely on

ad hoc decisions.

He had not received any comments thus far from

other Committee members or staff on the particular statement he had

proposed, and he was not certain in his own mind that that statement

represented the right policy.

Accordingly, he would suggest that the

staff be asked to prepare a memorandum for consideration at the next

meeting setting forth alternative proposals, so that the Committee

could have the advantage of different points of view.

Mr. Coombs commented that he had assumed the Committee did

have a policy on publication and that that policy had been carried

out.

It had been his understanding from the inception of foreign

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currency operations, over five years ago, that information on all

of the System's operations was to be reported within a reasonable

period.

At that time the magnitude of the risks that would be run

with such a policy was not clear, but in fact information on System

operations had been brought almost up to the minute in the published

reports of the Special Manager.

While he had assumed that it was the Committee's policy to

have the information on System operations brought up to date in his

reports, Mr. Coombs continued, he had also thought that emergencies

might arise which could make deviations from that policy desirable.

As distasteful as it might be to delay publication of certain

information, the possibility that a need to do so might arise in

an emergency argued against a definite commitment to publish

information concerning all System operations on a set schedule.

Fortunately, no such emergency had arisen to date.

As for the use of the swap lines by foreign partners,

Mr. Coombs said, he thought that on principle the Committee would

not want to publish information without their consent.

Furthermore,

he would be dubious about pressing them too hard to consent to

publication on any specific schedule.

To do so might weaken their

support of the swap network by seeming to open up a risk that

information on particular transactions would be released before

they were fully prepared for such release.

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Chairman Martin said he thought it would be desirable for

the staff to review the matter along the lines Mr. Robertson had

suggested, and for the Committee to plan on discussing it further

at its next meeting.

Mr. Mitchell suggested that the staff also be asked to

comment on the appropriateness of the form in which foreign currency

operations were reflected in the System's weekly statement--namely,

through changes in the items for "other assets" and "other liabilities."

Perhaps that form of reporting was satisfactory; on the other hand,

perhaps it could be charged that the System was inappropriately

concealing information.

For example, the British had been engaging

in window-dressing for some months, and the System had in effect

been acquiescing in that procedure, given the way it published its

figures.

He was not necessarily critical of the present form of

publication in the weekly statement, but he would feel more

comfortable if he had the staff's judgment about its adequacy.

If

sterling had in fact not recovered from its recent difficulties

many American businessmen might claim that they had been damaged

because of inadequacies in the information published by the System.

The question was whether such claims would be warranted.

Mr. Hayes commented that there was merit in Mr. Mitchell's

observation, but he thought the Committee had to weigh risks of that

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sort against whatever risks would be run by more complete current

reporting.

In the specific case of the British, there were many

moments last year when they were highly anxious about possible

market reactions to published information, and he would rather not

have been in the position of insisting on any particular publication

plan.

The fact that sterling had recovered perhaps could be taken

as evidence that the techniques used were successful.

Mr. Mitchell agreed that no harm had been done in that par

ticular case.

He was concerned about the possibility of a less

fortunate outcome.

Mr. Hayes rejoined that in his judgment the risk had been

well worth taking.

Mr. Daane said he would be reluctant to see the Committee

take an inflexible stance on the point; he thought that could prove

detrimental to the operations of the network.

Certainly, no one

wanted to conceal information, but as Mr. Hayes had noted it was

necessary to weigh different kinds of risks in the balance.

Mr. Brimmer observed that the Federal Reserve Bulletin

regularly included information on convertible foreign currencies

held by the Federal Reserve Banks, with detail by type of currency.

However, the data were shown with a substantial lag; for example,

the latest figures shown in the March 1967 Bulletin were for November

1966.

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timeliness of the published information.

The data shown in the

Bulletin were too old to be of value in current decisions by

businessmen.

It was understood that the staff would prepare a memorandum

along the lines suggested for discussion at the next meeting of the

Committee,

Before this meeting there had been distributed to the members

of the Committee a report from the Manager of the System Open Market

Account covering open market operations in U.S. Government securities

and bankers' acceptances for the period March 6 through March 29,

1967, and a supplemental report covering the period March 30 through

April 3, 1967.

Copies of both reports have been placed in the files

of the Committee.

In supplementation of the written reports, Mr. Holmes commented

as follows:

The easier money market conditions sought by this

Committee at its last meeting facilitated a large flow

of funds through financial markets over a period that

included the March corporate tax and dividend dates, a

Treasury cash offering of tax anticipation bills, and

a heavy calendar of corporate, municipal, and Federal

agency financing. Moreover, the easier atmosphere helped

produce a substantial decline in short-term interest

rates. Strong market expectations of an early reduction

in the discount rate were reinforced by signs of economic

weakness, by the cut in the commercial bank prime rate,

and by discount rate moves abroad. Together these factors

produced a buoyant atmosphere in the capital markets and

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long-term interest rates also moved lower, although the

weight of new offerings and aggressive pricing of some

new issues caused temporary setbacks. At the close of

the period there were some signs of developing congestionparticularly in the long-term municipal market. These

and other factors affecting financial markets, of course,

have been spelled out in some detail in the written re

ports to the Committee and in the blue book1/ and need

no extensive comment here.

Treasury bill rates moved steadily down from the

levels prevailing at the time of the last meeting until

the unusually strong auction of March 20. After some

backup, rates tended to stabilize at about 4.17 and 4.10

per cent, respectively, on three- and six-month bills as

bank and other demand slackened. Late last week, however,

a resurgence of demand and expectations of a discount

rate change pushed rates sharply lower. In yesterday's

auction average rates of about 3.98 and 3.99 per cent

were established for three- and six-month bills, about

35 basis points below rates established the day before

the Committee last met. There could be some reaction

in rates if expectations changed regarding the discount

rate and also if special stresses arise around the tax

date. Taking a longer look ahead to the second quarter,

however, it would appear that Treasury bill rates could

come under substantial downward pressures as the Treasury

pays off a total of $8.0 billion tax anticipation bills

in April and June in the face of seasonal demand from

State and local governments and the System. This suggests

that open market operations might prudently rely somewhat

more heavily on purchases of coupon issues than has been

the case in recent months.

The Federal funds rate was kept in a 4-1/2 - 4-3/4

per cent range generally during the period, but large

reserve injections were required to prevent the persistence

of an appreciable premium above the discount rate. The

persistent tendency for a premium--despite the recent

volume of free reserves in the banking system--reflects

the dependence of many of the larger banks around the

country on Federal funds purchases and other borrowing to

meet substantial basic reserve deficits, which in turn are

1/ The report, "Money Market and Reserve Relationships,"

prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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partly related to heavy dealer financing needs. Quite

naturally, such banks recognize that they cannot use the

discount window as a continuous source of funds, and a

few have been willing to bid up the funds rate instead

when their needs have been large. This is apt to be a

recurring phenomenon and we should not expect the old

relationship of the discount rate as a ceiling to the

funds rate to be readily restored--unless, of course,

we are prepared to be even more aggressive in supplying

reserves to the banks.

In the capital markets the pressure of new financing

may well have passed its peak, although the calendar is

heavy and could build up substantially if rates decline

significantly. Banks and finance companies are among the

more eligible candidates lurking in the wings, and a large

additional number of nonfinancial corporations may well

seek to fund some part of their outstanding indebtedness.

So far this year private placements have run far below

the level of earlier years, but as insurance companies

and other institutional investors rebuild liquidity some

of the pressure may again be taken off the public market.

The record March total of over $1.6 corporate bonds

offered publicly was two to three times the level of

offerings in March in recent years, and the first-quarter

total reflects the same pattern. The heavy flotations

appear the natural consequence of last year's squeeze on

corporate liquidity, and of this year's extraordinary

speedup in corporate tax payments to the Treasury.

As you know, the Treasury will announce the terms of

its May refunding on or about April 26, before the Com

mittee meets again. In addition to the $9.7 billion

Treasury notes maturing May 15, the Treasury may well

want to consider a prerefunding of June, August, and

possibly November maturities. Public holdings amount

to $2.9 billion of the May maturities, $1.3 billion of

the June, $4.8 billion of the August, and $2.6 billion

of the November maturities. A large prerefunding would

require an even keel posture for the System through

mid-May at least, and could add to downward pressure on

short-term rates if a substantial volume of short-dated

coupon issues are moved out into the 3-5 year maturity

range. I should also note that the Export-Import Bank

plans to offer $400 million or so participation certifi

cates within a few days. The Federal National Mortgage

Association has about $900 million PCs to offer before

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the end of the fiscal year in order to meet the budget

target.

As expected, the Treasury borrowed directly from the

System over the weekend of March 10. Earlier the Treasury

expected that a similar borrowing might be required in

mid-April, but most recent estimates indicate that this

will not be necessary.

As the written reports emphasize, aggregate reserve

and credit measures were exceptionally strong in March.

The bank credit proxy rose at a 15 per cent annual ratecompared with the 10 per cent estimated at the time of

the last meeting. The rapid rate of growth of various

reserve measures in recent months has, naturally,

permitted banks to restore liquidity lost in 1966, and

business loan expansion appears to have strengthened in

March. With the tax speedup, loan demands should be

strong in April, and the Board staff estimate of a 10-13

per cent rate of growth of bank credit for April does

not appear to be particularly disturbing. In fact, the

New York Bank projection is for a 16 per cent growth

rate. If the Committee should decide to include a two-way

proviso clause in the directive it would be helpful to

have the Committee's ideas on an appropriate range for

bank credit growth. Let me note also that although the

draft directives 1/ do not mention even keel considerations

such considerations might have to override implementation

of the proviso clause by late in the month.

Mr. Daane asked what market reactions might be expected to

reductions in the Federal Reserve discount rate of 1/2 and 1/4 per

cent, respectively.

Mr. Holmes said that a 1/2 per cent cut in the discount rate

probably would be taken by market participants as a confirmation

of their expectations that the System was moving to somewhat greater

1/ Alternative draft directives submitted by the staff for Committee

consideration are appended to these minutes as Attachment A.

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A 1/4 per cent reduction probably would be taken as a

cautionary signal, indicating that the market should not overestimate

the System's intentions to ease.

The latter action might cause some

temporary backup of short-term rates and it perhaps would have some

effect on longer-term rates as well.

Over the long run, however,

other factors were likely to lead to downward tendencies in short

term rates, as he had indicated in his statement.

Mr. Brimmer asked what consequences a discount rate cut

would have for rates paid by depositary institutions.

In reply, Mr. Holmes noted that yesterday one large New York

bank had lowered the rate it paid on certain consumer-type time

deposits.

A discount rate reduction probably would trigger similar

actions by other savings institutions.

Obviously the effect would

be greater if the discount rate was reduced by 1/2 per cent rather

than by 1/4 per cent.

Mr. Daane commented that in a conversation yesterday a

knowledgeable market participant had characterized the market for

securities with maturities beyond five years as a "nothing" market.

He asked whether that characterization was accurate.

Mr. Holmes replied that municipal dealers were finding it

very hard to place securities.

However, the corporate market was

handling a great volume of securities, and there was good demand

for longer-term Governments, mostly in the bank maturity area.

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Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the open market transactions in Gov

ernment securities and bankers'

acceptances during the period March 7

through April 3, 1967, were approved,

ratified, and confirmed.

Chairman Martin then called for the staff economic and

financial reports, supplementing the written reports that had been

distributed prior to the meeting, copies of which have been placed

in the files of the Committee.

Mr. Brill made the following statement on economic conditions:

The clues available to the Committee at the time of

the last meeting, foreshadowing further weakening in the

economy, have by and large been confirmed by data becoming

available since then.

Industrial production did decline

substantially further in February, with the drop broadening

out into many industrial sectors, and the odds are that

another decline will be reported for March. Retail sales

did fall off in February, and apparently showed little

improvement in March. And on the employment front, we've

seen reduced overtime followed by lay-offs--a classic

cyclical pattern. After the sharp February drop in the

workweek, the course of initial unemployment claims in

March suggests that the unemployment rate rose last month.

Before noting some of the other clouds on the horizon,

let me be sure to note a few silver linings. Stabilization

of prices of machinery and equipment and renewed weakening

in some basic materials prices give hope for a slowing in

wholesale prices of industrial commodities over-all. And

with food prices declining recently, at both wholesale

and retail, the consumer price index has been slowed to

a small upward drift. Even if the decline in food prices

has about run its course, the weakened demand situation

should keep increases in other commodity prices on the

moderate side in the months ahead. And, wonder of wonders,

even the pace of advance in service prices seems to be

slowing a bit. At least one source of upward pressure on

wages and costs may turn out more moderate this year than

feared earlier.

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Another bit of comfort comes from the news that a

start appears to have been made in reducing the overhang

of excessive stocks in the hands of producers and

distributors. Reports for February show a sharp drop

in the rate of inventory accumulation in manufacturing,

and although data for trade are not yet in, these may

show some net reduction in stocks. Certainly, one can

breathe a slight sigh of relief that an inventory adjust

ment is at last under way.

But one cannot get much satisfaction from the fact

that the adjustment is taking place through reductions in

output, employment, and incomes, rather than from a

rebound in sales. As one indication of the problem that

may still lie ahead, the slowing in manufacturing inventory

accumulation in February was more than offset by a drop

in shipments, leaving the stock-sales ratio higher than

before--indeed, as high as in the 1960-61 recession.

Failing a pronounced pickup in final sales, more produc

tion cuts must lie ahead before inventories and sales

get into a balance that businesses regard as viable.

What are the prospects that the inventory problem

will be eased by a revival in final sales this spring?

Taking it category by category, the only sure source of

expansion in the near-term appears to be in Government

spending. Federal spending for defense is running a

shade higher than in the budget estimates, and will

probably continue to do so--as best as one can speculate

on the course of military activity and needs. Indeed,

defense orders have been holding up the whole new orders

series. Federal spending for nondefense purposes is also

moving up faster than anticipated earlier, in part because

funds impounded at the height of inflationary worries

are now being released. And State and local spending

appears slated to continue to rise at least as rapidly

as in recent quarters. All in all, it seems most likely

that Government outlays will add from $5 to $6 billion

to GNP in the spring quarter.

Private spending for final product, however, doesn't

seem to be going anywhere, on balance. While the longer

run housing picture still seems bright, the near-term

picture is still uncertain. Funds are flowing into thrift

institutions at a rapid pace, but thrift institutions

are behaving thriftily, using their inflows in large

measure to reduce indebtedness rather than to expand

mortgage lending. It takes time to turn the housing

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industry around, and although the turn will undoubtedly

be more in evidence by summer and fall, the impact of

easier credit conditions on construction is not likely

to contribute significantly to a rise in GNP over the

next few months.

Nor is there much basis for expecting a significant

contribution to rising GNP from business fixed investment

over the near-term, even with easier credit conditions

and restoration of tax incentives. Declining sales,

profits, profit margins, and order backlogs, along with

rising excess capacity, are countervailing considerations.

We'd probably be doing well if investment spending just

held its own over the next quarter or so, with rising

construction spending offsetting a likely decline in

plant and equipment outlays.

It seems to me that if an orderly inventory adjust

ment is to continue without depressing levels of economic

activity too much further, consumers will have to begin

to spend more liberally, particularly for durable goods.

It is not enough to pin one's hopes on a decline in the

saving rate, which in any event usually occurs in reces

sions because income drops more rapidly than consumption

patterns can be adjusted. Spending a larger share of a

dwindling income can still mean declining markets for

goods. We need a bulge in sales in absolute terms.

Near-term resurgence in consumer spending for goods

can't be taken for granted, however, just because the

saving rate has already moved up to a relatively high

level. After three years of a saving rate fluctuating

between 5 and 6 per cent, we have tended to assume that

a 7 per cent rate is unsustainable, even for relatively

short periods. Yet it has held up before. For almost

three years, from early 1956 to late 1958, the saving

rate stayed in a 6-1/2 to 7-1/2 per cent range. Over

this period, while spending for nondurable goods about

kept pace with disposable income, outlays for durable

goods fell far behind. In fact, there was a decline in

the physical volume of durables purchased by consumers.

And through this period, manufacturing capacity utilization

rates fell, as the industrial plant planned and ordered

in the 1955 environment of booming consumer expenditures

came on stream at a time when consumer spending propen

sities were subdued.

I'm not forecasting as long a drought in consumer

spending ahead of us now. But I do emphasize that we

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cannot be certain that the drought will end this quarter

or next, no matter how much optimism the Survey Research

Center at the University of Michigan reads into its

surveys. Consumer attitudes are important, but the

problem is more than psychological. Lay-offs and shortened

workweeks bite into consumer capacity to undertake major

expenditures.

Further declines in retail sales may not be in prospect,

but the basis for a turn-up in sales soon is not clear,

either. To cite 1958 experience again, revival in con

sumer spending lagged the revival in incomes by roughly

two quarters. Currently, we're expecting deceleration,

rather than revival, in income growth this spring.

Resumption of faster rates of advance in disposable income

is not likely until expanding Government spending is

supplemented by incomes generated through rising private

spending. Even further and faster increases in construction

activity may not be enough to spark a broad and substantial

upturn in consumption without additional injections into

the income stream, perhaps through enlarged social security

benefits.

For the near-term, then, our work seems cut out for

us. We have to continue to make credit conditions even

more conducive for consumers--and business and governments,

also--to finance income generating expenditures, at least

until the forces of expansion are firmly embedded. Much

of our easing to date has been absorbed in restoring the

liquidity wrung out of both borrowers and lenders last

year, and this type of credit demand has kept the cost of

financing long-term expenditures relatively high. Rates

and terms on long-term debt have some way to go before

they will reach levels that actually rekindle spending

demands. It would appear premature, therefore, for the

System to moderate its easing efforts at this stage.

Mr. Ellis asked whether the staff had backed away from the

projections for the second half of 1967 that-it had presented to

the Committee in the course of the chart show given at the February

meeting.

Mr. Brill noted that the second-half projections included

in the chart show were those of the Council of Economic Advisers;

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the Board's staff had not given any projections of its own for that

period.

The staff was now reevaluating the Council's projections,

but was not yet ready to present its conclusions.

Much would depend

on the assessment of the outlook for the Federal budget, including

the Administration's proposals for increased social security benefits.

Mr. Hickman, after complimenting Mr. Brill on his presentation

today, noted that the staff of the Cleveland Reserve Bank thought

it could detect evidence of some leveling in durable goods sales in

the Fourth District during March.

He asked whether the Board's staff

had the same impression for the nation as a whole.

Mr. Brill replied that he had just received word that automo

bile sales did level off in March.

However, it appeared that sales

were not much different from production, which would suggest that

there was little further reduction in inventories.

Mr. Koch made the following statement concerning financial

developments:

Bank credit expansion and capital market flotations

have been very large in recent months, and a question

that has no doubt come to your minds is whether these

large financial flows suggest that the process of gradual

monetary easing begun last fall has gone far enough for

the time being. It is to this question that I shall

address most of my remarks this morning.

We had been expecting strong demands for credit and

capital this spring, but apparently the volume of financing

has been somewhat larger than projected. This may strike

one as odd in view of the fact that the nonfinancial

situation in the economy has been weaker than had been

contemplated.

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Also, the decline in long-term interest rates has

been smaller than projected, even though time and savings

deposits have increased rapidly at both commercial banks

and at nonbank financial intermediaries and the narrowly

defined money stock has increased fairly sharply.

In the capital markets, the demand for financing

has been particularly strong in the case of business

corporations. Gross new corporate security flotations

in the first quarter approached $6 billion.

Businesses have been borrowing heavily in the

capital markets in part in order to regain a more

balanced maturity structure of their indebtedness and

in part in order to rebuild their liquid assets,

However, it is doubtful whether aggregate net corporate

liquidity has been built up much yet, despite a sharp

rise in corporate holdings of certificates of deposit.

The rise in liquid assets has been matched by a sharp

increase in accrued business tax liabilities.

Also, business borrowing from banks in the first

quarter was quite large, with demands concentrated in

January and March, months of the heaviest tax payments.

Borrowing will no doubt continue heavy this month--our

staff estimates that corporate tax payments may total

about $3-1/2 billion more than last year. Outstanding

business loans are likely to rise in April even though

a substantial amount of bank credit is expected to be

repaid out of the proceeds of bond financing. In May

and June taken together, though, corporate tax payments

may only approximate those of last year. Thus, the crush

of business financing demands on both the banks and the

capital markets may be on the wane.

Despite continuing large business demands for

credit, commercial banks have also been able to begin

to rebuild their liquidity by adding substantially to

their holdings of short-term securities and money market

loans. Reserves have been more readily supplied and

deposit inflows have been substantial, first of large

denomination and consumer-type CD's, and more recently

of demand deposits and, surprisingly, even savings

deposits.

Total bank time and savings deposits increased at

an annual rate of 18 per cent in the first quarter, a

rate that far exceeded the earlier projection, This

growth included a rapid runup of large-denomination

certificates of deposit to an outstanding volume of over

$19 billion, about $1/2 billion above the earlier August

peak.

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The narrowly defined money supply has grown at an

annual rate of 6 per cent in recent months. Much of this

growth occurred in late February and March. It may have

been due in part to increased corporate balances accu

mulated prior to tax payments and perhaps in part to

increased consumer caution and decreased consumer spending

on autos and other durable goods.

As a result of these more favorable deposit inflows,

on a daily-average proxy basis total bank credit rose at

over a 15 per cent annual rate in the first quarter, and

on an end-of-month basis at a little over a 12 per cent

rate.

The rise in business loans has occurred even though

banks have not yet aggressively sought loans and have

reduced their interest rates only with great reluctance

and hesitation. Despite sharp increases in short-term

security holdings in recent months, the loan-deposit

ratio of the weekly reporting banks is still about 69

per cent, as compared with the peak of 72 per cent

reached last fall. Many banks, like businesses, apparently

are not yet satisfied with their liquidity positions,

particularly in view of their apparent general acceptance

of the presumption that a brisk economic expansion will

develop before the end of the year.

The nonbank financial intermediaries, too, as

Mr. Brill has suggested, have experienced very satis

factory fund inflows thus far this year. Like commercial

banks, though, many of these institutions are also

rebuilding their liquidity before they actively begin

to beat the bushes for mortgage loans.

As for interest rate behavior in recent months,

the decline in short-term rates has been faster, and

that in longer-term rates more sluggish, than projected.

If, as an interim target, we are seeking to reattain

the financial conditions prevailing around late 1965,

we are already there in the case of, for example, the

3-month Treasury bill rate, but still have perhaps a

1/2 per cent to go in the case of the Aaa corporate

bond yield. And, although mortgage yields have declined

more promptly than in earlier periods of monetary easing,

the extent of the decline has been inhibited by high

and sticky rates on time deposits and savings and loan

shareholdings.

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What does all this mean for current monetary policy?

I must confess that I began my preparation for today's

assignment with some trepidation about the size of recent

increases in such financial aggregates as total reserves,

bank credit, and the money supply. The more I reviewed

the situation, though, the more I began to realize not

only that these increases were only a little larger than

those we projected earlier, but also that they were

needed to rebuild the liquidity of the economy. The

liquidity positions of both business enterprises and

financial institutions had fallen to exceptionally

low levels last summer, and it is necessary to rebuild

them substantially and promptly if businesses are to

be encouraged to invest and institutions to lend.

Finally, I feel that the current situation calls

for a prompt reduction in the discount rate by 1/2 of

1 per cent. The market has already more than dis

counted a 1/4 per cent decline and probably largely a

1/2 per cent cut. If we do not go the whole 1/2 per

cent, expectations will be disappointed and it might

require large open market operations to keep another

February-type reversal of credit market developments

from occurring.

A 1/2 point decrease in the discount rate would

give the capital markets a needed shot in the arm. It

would likely mean lower corporate bond yields and, hope

fully, would help to unstick the high rates on time

deposits and shareholdings. As a result, it would

contribute to a further reduction in the cost of mortgage

credit, a development that is essential for a more

adequate rate of over-all economic growth later in the

year.

Action decreasing the discount rate by 1/2 per cent

would be most consistent with proposed alternative B of

the draft directives. As the blue book suggests, this

would no doubt mean some further easing through open

market operations, illustrated by an increase in free

reserves to, perhaps, the $300 - $400 million range.

Mr. Ellis asked whether, if the market had already fully

discounted a

1/2 per cent decrease in the discount rate, it would be

necessary to buttress such action with open market operations to

produce free reserves in the $300-$400 million area,

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Mr. Koch said he did not think the market had fully

discounted a 1/2 per cent decrease in the discount rate.

In any

case, the effect of a discount rate action was likely to be mainly

psychological, and that effect probably would have to be backed up

by open market operations to produce lasting easier conditions.

The

two actions need not be simultaneous, of course, since a discount

rate cut would in itself have a temporary easing effect.

He agreed

with Mr. Holmes that it would be appropriate to provide reserves

in part through operations in coupon issues.

Mr. Hickman said he concurred in the view that further

easing was necessary.

He wondered, however, whether a 1/2 per cent

cut in the discount rate might not trigger a flow of funds abroad.

Mr. Koch replied that he had been addressing himself

solely to domestic considerations.

However, he thought Mr. Coombs'

comments earlier today bore on the point in question.

Mr. Swan referred to Mr. Koch's observation that recent

high rates of bank credit growth were justified by the need to

rebuild the liquidity of the economy.

He asked how much longer such

growth rates might be necessary before the desire for liquidity was

satisfied, at least to some degree.

Mr. Koch said that while he thought there was still some

distance to go in meeting liquidity needs, he did not know how far

that distance was.

The growth rate of bank credit would have to be

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watched, however, particularly if economic conditions improved and

the demand for credit strengthened over the next few months.

Mr. Reynolds then presented the following statement on the

balance of payments and related matters:

Large weekly deficits in March have made the over-all

payments figures for the first quarter--so far as we

know them--pretty gloomy. Through March 29, the liquidity

deficit for the quarter approached $1 billion, seasonally

adjusted, and the official reserve transactions deficit

for the quarter exceeded $1-1/2 billion. Both figures

are much larger than those published for the fourth

quarter, and much larger than the quarterly averages

that we have been expecting for the year 1967.

The first quarter numbers do not represent any

fundamental new deterioration from the fourth quarter.

The increase in the liquidity deficit is wholly ex

plained by three special types of transactions, none of

which is closely related to economic activity or monetary

conditions. First, we received no debt prepayments in

the first quarter, whereas we had received nearly $200

million of such payments in the fourth quarter of 1966.

Second, shifts of foreign official assets into nonliquid

forms (at least through March 29) were about $200 million

smaller than in the preceding quarter. Third, U.S. oil

companies paid nearly $300 million equivalent to Libya

for 1966 taxes in March of this year, whereas last year

the corresponding payments were not made until April.

(It may be that the seasonals--which are currently being

revised--should be somehow adjusted for this.) On all

other transactions than these, the deficit on the

liquidity basis was roughly the same in the first quarter

as in the fourth.

Similarly, on the official settlements basis, the

first and third of the special transactions mentioned,

plus repayment of Euro-dollars during the early weeks of

the year, in contrast to net inflows during the fourth

quarter, explain the change in the balance. Since we

argued last year that the Euro-dollar inflow should not

be taken as representing a fundamental or lasting improve

ment, it would not be helpful now to treat the

long-anticipated reversal of that flow as a fundamental

deterioration.

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But one can take only limited comfort from the fact

that the bad first quarter was really no worse than the

bad preceding quarter. We need to reassess future

prospects in the light of these disappointing recent

figures, of longer-run developments, and of the changing

cyclical situation and associated changes in policy.

Government analysts have been meeting during the

past week to make such a reassessment. They incline

to the view, which I share, that--leaving aside for the

moment such special transactions as debt prepayments

and shifts of foreign official assets--the liquidity

deficit may come out between $2 billion and $2-1/2

billion this year, down a little from last year's $2.8

billion, reckoned on a comparable basis. If in addition,

as the Treasury staff now supposes, new special trans

actions can be arranged this year in about half of

last year's large volume, the published liquidity deficit

for the year might not differ much from last year's

$1.4 billion.

This is roughly the same projection that the Board's

staff has been giving you for several months. To cleave

to it, despite the much worse figures of the past two

quarters, is to project a considerable improvement in

the quarters ahead. This may sound adventurous. But it

is firmly rooted in the application of past relation

ships to recent and prospective economic developments.

The details of the projection are about as before.

A sharp drop in merchandise imports from recent levels,

coupled with some further modest expansion in exports,

seems likely to make the trade surplus and the surplus

on all goods and services about $2 billion better this

year than last. The import drop will reflect the lower

rates of GNP growth and inventory accumulation, and

especially--with some lag--the recent and prospective

decline in the capacity utilization rate in manufacturing.

Equations fitted to past experience suggest that the

import decline should have begun in the first quarter.

And indeed, imports did drop in February, although 2- and

3-month averages did not yet show a significant decline.

Partly offsetting the current account improvement,

there is still expected to be some deterioration on

capital account. Direct investment outflows are now

expected to increase by about 10 per cent year to year,

though not from the swollen fourth-quarter rate. U.S.

corporations plan some further increase in foreign

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spending, and will probably not increase their foreign

borrowing.

Some reversal of bank credit flows, from reflow to

renewed outflow, is still anticipated. Through February,

this had not happened.

But Japanese borrowers will be

seeking funds here later in the year.

Finally, net outflow of Government grants and capital

will also be larger, as a result mainly of military and

civilian aircraft financing by the Export-Import Bank.

Two aspects of the recent projection discussions are

of particular interest to this Committee. First, it

appears that any shortfall of GNP this year below about

a

$775 billion figure would not yield much net additional

benefit to the current account. A deep recession would

cut U.S. imports so sharply that it would probably have

serious and early repercussions on activity abroad, and

hence on U.S. exports.

Secondly, the group did not feel it necessary to

specify its assumptions about U.S. monetary conditions

in detail in order to project capital flows. The feeling

seemed to be that interest rates in Europe and Canada

would continue to move generally parallel with U.S. rates,

and that the limitations on U.S. capital outflows imposed

by the IET and the voluntary programs would make outflows

of U.S. capital relatively insensitive to moderate

changes in rate differentials.

Thus, so long as U.S. monetary policy is seen to be

reasonably well suited to domestic requirements, so that

confidence is maintained, the way in which policy unfolds

in detail may not matter much for the balance of payments

this year. This country has been placed in the position

of taking the lead internationally in coping--or not

coping--with world-wide recessionary tendencies. Britain,

Canada, and probably other European countries (as

Mr. Coombs has already suggested), are likely to follow

that lead. Hence, although the payments position remains

unsatisfactory, there seems to be little that U.S.

monetary policy can do at this juncture either to help

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it or to harm it.

This is the case, I think, even with respect to

Euro-dollar flows and the official settlements balance,

for which the group of Government analysts makes no

projections. Within wide limits, there may be little

that this Committee can do, even if it wished to, to

speed or retard a further reflow to Europe this year.

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Clearly there will be a large official settlements

deficit this year. Our February guess of $3 billion or

more still seems valid, and more than a little disturbing.

But so long as Britain and Germany are on the other end

of it, we may not be confronted with large gold losses

or the necessity of making large IMF drawings. And in

a longer perspective, it will be right, I think, because

of the ebb and flow of Euro-dollars, to average out the

two years of 1966 and 1967 at a deficit of about $1-1/2

billion a year. That is no better than 1965, but also

no worse, despite the Vietnam war.

Chairman Martin then called for the go-around of comments

and views on economic conditions and monetary policy, beginning with

Mr. Hayes, who made the following statement:

Nearly all of the business statistics in recent

weeks have confirmed a further slackening of the

economic expansion. Bad weather doubtless played a

part, but it is not the whole story. The deterioration

has been a bit more than I had expected a few weeks

ago. I find the inventory situation disappointing,

with evidence that the needed inventory adjustment

is still in its early stages. A cautious attitude

on the part of consumers has clearly contributed to

the recent sluggish record.

Despite all this, I hold to the view that what we

are seeing is probably only a pause and that the economy

is likely to become much stronger later in the yearalthough the timing of this strengthening may have

been somewhat deferred. In general, confidence remains

high, and there are strong underlying forces in the

economy--forces which have been strengthened by the

further easing of fiscal and monetary policies in recent

weeks. I am impressed by the important stimulative role

being played by the Federal budget, particularly in

the second half of calendar 1967. This stimulus will

be substantial even with enactment of the proposed

surtax as of July 1--and without enactment of the surtax

at that time, which looks increasingly unlikely, the

fiscal stimulus will be of near-record proportions.

In fact I can see cause for concern over the possibility

that the budget will be highly stimulative at a time,

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later in the year, when private demand is expanding

rapidly. These prospects underline the need for greater

flexibility in the timing of fiscal actions.

Meanwhile, although prices are now relatively stable

because of the slackening in demand, we still face a

serious threat of excessively generous wage settlements

and resulting cost-price pressures. The need to take

this threat seriously becomes all the clearer when we

analyze the balance of payments statistics for 1967 to

date. The liquidity and official settlements deficits

for February and most of March indicate sharp further

deterioration in our international accounts, despite

an improvement of the trade surplus in February. It

may well be that the worsening of our accounts reflects

precautionary transfers of corporate funds to foreign

affiliates in anticipation of new controls or taxes on

direct investment outflows. Such anticipatory transfers

apparently occurred already in substantial amounts in

the fourth quarter of 1966.

I would interpret the present state of the balance

of payments as clearly deteriorating. The liquidity

deficit in 1966 was $1.4 billion; in the fourth quarter

of that year it was at an annual rate of $2-1/4 billion;

and in the first quarter of 1967 it is estimated at an

annual rate of about $4 billion. The balance on the

official reserves transactions basis was in surplus in

1966 as a whole, but it was in deficit at an annual rate

of about $1 billion in the fourth quarter; and calcula

tions at the New York Reserve Bank suggest a first-quarter

deficit at a rate of about $7 billion. These figures are

decidedly disturbing and, as I will note later, I believe

a reference in the directive to the balance of payments

deterioration they reflect merits consideration.

As for bank credit, it now seems clear that all

three months of the first quarter showed a very rapid

rise in bank credit; and a similar performance seems in

the cards for April. Much of the expansion has been in

investments, so that loan-deposit ratios have dropped

substantially from their extraordinary peak. The money

supply in March showed the largest monthly advance in

the postwar period; and there have also been sizable

gains in commercial bank time and savings deposits, as

well as large savings inflows into the thrift institu

tions. These credit developments have been generally

gratifying, following the shortfall of bank credit of

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last autumn, and they appear appropriate in the light

of the current state of the economy. Business loan

growth in March seems to have been a good deal larger

than anticipated, although a minor portion of it reflects

the banks' endeavor to increase their liquidity by

acquiring acceptances.

Loan demand continues rather

strong, in part perhaps because of the unusually heavy

corporate tax payments due next month.

It seems to me that monetary policy has been doing

about all that could be expected of it, with open

market operations contributing importantly to easier

credit conditions over recent months, and with last

month's reduction in reserve requirements lending further

support to the policy of greater ease. In view of the

very rapid increases we are witnessing in most of the

monetary variables which we usually think of as "inter

mediate objectives," I think open market policy should

remain essentially unchanged over the next four weeks.

In view of the likelihood of a reduction in the discount

rate in the near future, I do not feel that money market

conditions should remain the principal policy criterion

but would suggest rather that we try to maintain about

the present degree of reserve availability. Free reserves

fluctuating in the $200 to $300 million range will

probably be consistent with the objective of keeping

about the present degree of ease. The Federal funds

rate should, of course, be expected to adjust to any new

discount rate level. We should avoid placing excessive

reliance on the Federal funds rate, since it is notice

ably affected by the prevailing spirit of reluctance

among commercial banks to borrow at the discount window.

Thus, reasonable fluctuations in the funds rate should

be permitted.

As for the directive, the first paragraph as drafted

by the staff appears to be generally acceptable. As I

mentioned earlier, however, a reference to the recent

deterioration in the balance of payments might be useful.

Accordingly, I would suggest replacing the sentence on

the balance of payments in the staff's draft with the

"The balance of payments has been

following sentence:

deteriorating despite some recent improvement in the

It seems to me that the second

foreign trade surplus."

paragraph should call for "maintaining about the present

degree of reserve availability."

With this modification,

I like alternative A and am glad to see inclusion of a

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two-way proviso. This would give appropriate recognition

to the fact that bank credit expansion has recently been

running at what are historically very high rates. This

was fine on a temporary basis, but a long-run continua

tion of a growth rate of some 15 per cent would certainly

be excessive. For April, in view of the tax speed-up,

I would not be unduly concerned if the credit proxy were

to run somewhat above the current estimates, but I would

expect the proviso to become operative if this difference

were to become very wide.

This brings me to the question of a possible discount

rate reduction. There is much to be said for keeping all

of the major instruments of monetary policy more or less

in step when we have a significant change in business

and credit conditions and a consequent change in policy,

as has occurred over the past four or five months.

Market rates have been moving down significantly, and

some of them are of course well below the discount rate.

It would seem to me highly logical to bring the discount

rate now into better alignment, and, in so doing, minimize

one element of uncertainty as to the intent of official

credit policy. Since many of the Reserve Banks have

directors' meetings this week, the question of timing

presents no great difficulty. I find it a good deal more

puzzling to decide whether the reduction should be by

1/2 per cent or by 1/4 per cent.

In favor of the smaller reduction of 1/4 per cent,

one could point to the following arguments:

(1) Since such a move has been fully

discounted by the market, it would presumably

not lead to further reductions in market rates.

In fact, it might cause at least a temporary

backing-up of rates from current levels.

(2) The uncertainty in the business out

look might counsel a moderate move which could

be reinforced or reversed in the light of

further developments. It would leave us an

opportunity for a further cut if business

should turn out to be weaker than now seems

likely or if knots should develop in the

capital markets. At the same time it might

make it easier for policy to turn around should

this be necessary before the year is out.

(3) There is some risk now, especially

in view of the very large volume of corporate

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bond offerings, that a larger reduction could

trigger wrong expectations and eventually lead

to serious congestion which could only be

eliminated by substantial further easing of

credit.

(4) There may also be something to be

said for accustoming the market to the use of

smaller and more frequent changes in the dis

count rate than has been customary.

I find at least as many arguments in favor of a 1/2

per cent reduction:

(1) The present rate of 4-1/2 per cent

is quite high historically. Perhaps a change

from such a level should not be too niggardly.

(2) Historically, 1/2 per cent is the

usual amount by which the discount rate has

been changed in recent years.

(3) A move by 1/2 per cent would avoid

the uncertainty that might be caused if the

market should remain poised in expectation of

another reduction.

(4) The larger cut would be more effective

in nudging mortgage rates downward with con

sequent advantages of speeding recovery in the

housing industry.

(5) A 1/2 per cent reduction would place

the System in a position to move more vigorously

on the up side should that become necessary.

(6) From an international standpoint,

the present is probably a good time in which

to make a decisive discount rate reduction if

we plan to do so at all in the coming months.

There have been a number of rate cuts abroad,

and others might be encouraged by a move on our

part, especially if it were a move of 1/2 per

cent. There is a good deal to be said for

staying "in phase" as much as possible with

our foreign counterparts if economic conditions

permit; and already there are some signs that

European economies might gain renewed vigor a

little later this year, and in such circum

stances occasions for foreign rate reductions

would probably vanish.

(7) In terms of our own balance of payments,

a reduction at this time of 1/2 per cent in our

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rate would probably have little adverse effect.

For the time being, despite the disturbingly

large size of the deficit, dollars are being

accumulated largely in central banks, such

as those of England and Germany, where they

are not causing problems in terms of our gold

stock. Later on, our room for maneuver might

become much more limited if this geographical

pattern should change.

(8) A reduction of 1/2 per cent would be

a clear-cut, strong move and would not give

an appearance of uncertainty and hesitation in

System policy.

Last week I had an opportunity to discuss this whole

matter in a preliminary way with our directors. There

were divided views, with some of the directors reluctant

to make any rate reduction at this time because of their

belief that the economy would soon be expanding strongly

again. In general, I think I could summarize their

attitude as being one of caution. On balance, I would

favor a discount rate reduction of 1/2 per cent. I

believe, however, that such a move should be publicized

as confirming the recent shift in market rates and as

a means of bringing the discount rate into line with

our other policy instruments, rather than as a signif

icant move of further ease. An approach along these

lines might minimize excessive expectational effects

on market rates.

Naturally, I await with interest the views of the

others at today's meeting.

Mr. Ellis remarked that belatedly, and therefore fortunately,

the New England economy was exhibiting those recessionary signs

that had characterized the national economy for the last several

months.

The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate for February

remained unchanged at 3.3 per cent (the U.S. rate was 3.7 per cent)

but initial claims for unemployment compensation, as of March 18, had

for six weeks been exceeding such claims for the corresponding

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period of 1966., For the preceding five weeks they had trailed

year-ago levels.

District measures of factory output and average

weekly hours of manufacturing both turned down slightly between

January and February.

Mr. Ellis reported that the Boston Reserve Bank had been

watching the mortgage market closely to detect changes stemming from

the shifting flow of funds through savings banks and insurance com

panies.

A gradual decline had been recorded for January and February

in the number of banks charging 6 per cent or more for residential

mortgages.

Bankers reported that the trend continued in March.

It

was interesting to note, however, that the number of savings banks

offering higher rates on regular and special notice accounts was

still increasing.

Also, they were shifting to rates compounded and

credited on a monthly rather than a quarterly basis.

The Boston Reserve Bank's survey of the eight largest life

insurance companies in New England revealed that policy lending by

February had dropped more than half from its late fall peak rate,

Mr. Ellis noted, but it remained about double the 1965 "normal

level."

Their new commitments of funds for real estate mortgage

loans to business in February nearly matched the average monthly

level for 1965.

Their residential mortgage new commitments had

risen slightly but were less than half their average in 1965.

course, all those commitments were for 1968 projects.

no money to commit for this year.

Of

They had

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Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Ellis said that two types

of analysis--both present in the green book 1/ and staff commentsdefined a sort of Hobson's choice of monetary policy.

The evidence

was overwhelming that the economy was in a "recessionary" or "slow

growth"--and therefore unsatisfactory--posture.

Monetary

stimulation--designed to stimulate housing--was an obvious need that

the Committee had moved forcefully to provide.

Its success since

November was registered in the 6.8 per cent annual rate of increase

in the money supply, the 15 or 20 per cent rates of increase in

aggregate reserve measures, and the sharp increase in bank credit,

based on sharp growth in both demand and time deposits.

By the same token, Mr. Ellis continued, the evidence from

the same sources was persuasive that the economy might be expected

to be expanding quite acceptably in the last half of the year.

By

itself, that expectation would be quite reassuring were it not for

the knowledge that monetary policy works with a lag--even though

the extent of lag cannot be precisely defined.

To the extent that

the Committee was fighting short-run problems with long-run weapons,

it was storing up problems to be combatted later.

That was perhaps

an unnecessarily long way to emphasize that the longer the Committee

pursued a policy of continued easing the more carefully it should

1/ The report, "Current Economic and Financial Conditions,"

prepared for the Committee by the Board's staff.

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weigh prospective immediate gains against prospective future

problems.

His personal Hobson's choice arose when he tried to

apply such a dictum in the context of policy for the next four

weeks.

Mr. Ellis said that the trend and existing level of bill

yields, the widely reported market expectations, and the desirability

of using the discount rate instrument in harmony with other monetary

policy instruments all counseled reducing the discount rate prior

to the Treasury's refunding action later this month.

question was how much.

The only

As the Board members knew, a week ago the

directors of the Boston Bank chose a 1/4 per cent reduction.

In

his judgment, the question of how much to lower the discount rate

depended on the kind of signal the System wished to convey to the

market.

At present rate levels, a cut of 1/2 per cent would carry

the connotation that the System encouraged and intended to support

both lower rates and further reserve easing, as implied by the

discussion in the blue book of the probable effects of such a discount

rate action.

A cut of 1/4 per cent would be more passive; it would

reflect a desire to confirm continuation of monetary ease, but it

probably would have a neutral effect on market rates and expectations.

Equally important was the likelihood that such a change would avoid

possible interpretation that the System's concern had increased to

the point at which it was prepared to force monetary policy into

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a more aggressive posture.

A move of 1/4 per cent would fit the

established pattern of successive modest steps and avoid the "panic

button" accusation.

It would also minimize the exposure to flows

of funds abroad.

All of that, Mr. Ellis remarked, tied back to his earlier

observations about achieving present objectives while minimizing

further problems.

He believed the policy actions the Committee had

already taken might be expected to have substantial and extensive

impact in the next three months.

In particular, a slower rate of

new corporate issues should allow long-term rates to reflect more

of the movement that had occurred at the shorter end of the market.

He was prepared to postpone the further easing of net reserve posi

tions that might be associated with a discount rate reduction of

1/2 per cent.

Within the alternatives outlined in the blue book, Mr. Ellis

anticipated that a 1/4 per cent cut in the discount rate, supported

by continuation of present efforts to preserve an easy money market,

would continue but not accelerate the rapid growth in reserve

aggregates, bank credit, and the money supply.

In effect, he was

in agreement with the last sentence in the full paragraph on page 8

of the blue book, which said substantially that.

In fact, that

whole paragraph, with a change in title, outlined a course of policy

he believed appropriate.

The preceding paragraph was labeled

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"Further ease through open market operations alone."

The paragraph

on page 8 might be made parallel in concept and acceptable to him

by adding a new final word to the title, to read "Further ease with

discount rate cuts alone."1 /

Mr. Ellis concluded by observing that for the second paragraph

of the directive he would favor either alternative B, interpreted

in terms of the blue book language he had cited, or alternative A

amended in the manner suggested by Mr. Hayes.

Mr. Irons reported that in the Eleventh District the adjust

ment in economic conditions that had been under way for some time

was continuing, although it did not appear to be accelerating or to

be causing much disturbance.

The employment situation had changed

The paragraph to which Mr. Ellis referred reads as follows:

"Further ease with discount rate cuts. A 1/4 point

decline in the discount rate to 4-1/4 per cent would tend

essentially to do little more than confirm current levels of

security yields. It would become more likely that the Federal

funds rate would move below 4-1/2 per cent, assuming free reserves

in their recent range. It would also serve to lower dealer

lending rates somewhat, and thereby take some potential upward

pressure off bill rates in the longer run. Over the short-run,

though, the 3-month bill rate may rebound from its very recent

4 per cent level, and perhaps fluctuate in a 3.90 to 4.15 per

cent range over the next four weeks. If accomplished soon, a

small discount rate cut could also smooth market adjustments

around the mid-April tax date. The expansion in reserve and

monetary aggregates could very well remain within the ranges

earlier indicated for an unchanged monetary policy since

borrowers and banks have to a great extent already built in a

discount rate reduction of at least this size into their

decisions."

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relatively little recently; in fact, employment in manufacturing had

shown the normal seasonal rise, and employment in services and govern

ment had increased more than seasonally.

Some increase in total

employment was expected during the current month.

Industrial production

was down, with decreases in various durable and some nondurable goods

industries offsetting gains in transportation equipment and aircraft.

Construction activity was perhaps showing some signs of increasing.

Retail trade, as reflected by department store sales, was running

about 7 per cent over a year ago, and cumulatively for the year to

date was about 3 per cent over a year ago.

The District had not

felt the impact of the decline in automobile sales quite so much as

the country as a whole.

Mr. Irons said that there recently had been relatively strong

demand for loans, reflected mostly in categories other than commercial

and industrial loans.

Banks had added to their investments as they

sought to improve their liquidity positions, and their loan-deposit

ratios were better than they had been a few months earlier.

Borrowing

from the Federal Reserve Bank continued to be negligible; in fact,

it was less than $1 million yesterday, as low as it had been for

some time.

Looking beyond the next few months, bankers in the

District generally were expecting a continuation of easy credit policy

until a turn in the economic situation appeared.

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At the national level, Mr. Irons continued, the course of

business activity continued to be characterized by adjustments that

were leading to a degree of weakness in various sectors of the economy,

as reflected in the green book.

the inventory area.

The most notable adjustments were in

It was true that stock-sales ratios had not

improved, but some encouragement was offered by the fact that in

ventories themselves were coming down.

sharp easing of bank reserve positions.

There had certainly been a

As indicated in the blue

book, the much easier credit policy was being reflected in marked

reductions in short-term rates.

There also had been some declines

in long-term rates although, as would be expected, they were not as

large as in the short-term area.

During the past several months the

System had injected a substantial volume of funds into the market

and, in general, had eased conditions significantly.

Those policy

actions had at least partly succeeded in accomplishing their

objectives; a large volume of reserves had been provided at low

cost, and certainly the severe strains evident a few months earlier

had been moderated.

At present, Mr. Irons said, he would recommend maintaining

about the same degree of ease as had characterized the money and

credit markets during the past month.

He did not think additional

ease was needed at this time from the standpoint of either rates or

availability.

Recent growth rates in financial aggregates such as

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the bank credit proxy, while suitable for the short run, probably

were excessive for a sustained period.

He would prefer alternative A

for the directive.

Mr. Irons added that he personally would like to see no

change in the discount rate at this time, although he knew that

arguments could be arrayed against that position.

He was concerned

that a discount rate reduction, no matter how its purposes were

described, would be taken as another clear and definite step in the

direction of further ease, and would lead to further sharp declines

in short-term rates and increases in the availability of funds at

banks.

However, if the rate were to be reduced, he would favor a

cut of 1/2 per cent rather than of 1/4 per cent.

Mr. Swan reported that the unemployment rate in the Twelfth

District was unchanged in February after recording a sharp drop in

January.

Manufacturing employment showed virtually no change but

total nonfarm employment edged up.

It appeared from limited figures

that average weekly hours of production workers in manufacturing in

California decreased by only 0.1 in February, compared with a

decline of 0.7 nationally.

That difference perhaps was related in

part to the smaller emphasis on production of automobiles and

appliances in California than in the rest of the country.

Credit extended by weekly reporting banks in the District

grew quite rapidly in the four weeks ending March 22, Mr. Swan

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continued, in contrast to a decline in the corresponding period of

last year.

The increase in securities holdings was very large, and

was about equally divided between municipals and Governments.

From

the first of the year through March 22, total credit rose more at

weekly reporting banks in the District than at such banks elsewhere.

Much of the rise was due to increases in loans to securities dealers,

while business and real estate loans declined.

There were indications

from some banks that inquiries regarding real estate loans had

increased substantially recently, but such interest was not yet

fully reflected in loans extended and in some cases not even in

commitments made.

The credit expansion had been quite consistently

supported, in part at least, by continued net purchases of Federal

funds by the larger District banks.

Borrowings from the Reserve Bank

were higher in February than in any month since September 1966.

Such borrowings declined in March, however, and in the week ending

March 29 they were zero.

Yesterday, Mr. Swan said, after a large New York bank reduced

the rate it paid on certificates of deposit of less than $100 thousand,

he had made a quick check with some of the District banks and learned

that they did not contemplate taking similar action for the time

being.

Apparently, California savings and loan associations did

not intend to lower their dividend rates at present, and the banks

planned to maintain their time deposit rates at levels competitive

with rates paid by the associations.

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In Mr. Swan's judgment, the Desk had carried out Committee

policy extremely well over the past month.

The developments that

had occurred--including the decline in bill rates, the fact that

the Federal funds rate was finally reduced below the 4-3/4 - 5 per

cent area, the increase in net free reserves, and the growth in

the bank credit proxy--were all quite satisfactory to him.

The

fact that the decline in longer-term rates was relatively limited

was explainable in terms of the heavy volume of offerings in the

bond market.

He was not sure that the problem of "unsticking"

long-term rates was a significant one at present; if there was

some reduction in the demands made on capital markets soon, those

rates would move down by themselves.

In thinking about policy for the period ahead, Mr. Swan

continued, like Mr. Koch he had started with the question of how

long it would be necessary to maintain the rather substantial rates

of increase achieved over the last several months in bank credit,

money supply, and the like, and whether still larger increases

would be desirable.

The latter seemed quite doubtful to him.

He

thought a discount rate reduction would be appropriate for the sake

of consistency with other recent policy actions of the System and

possibly to provide further confirmation of the System's present

policy posture.

As to the size of the cut, like Mr. Ellis, he found

the description on page 8 of the blue book of the probable results

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of a 1/4 per cent rate reduction quite satisfactory.

It was

difficult for him to believe that the discount rate could be

reduced by 1/2 per cent without having that action interpreted

as a significant further move toward greater ease.

In general,

he would question the desirability of the System's taking that

kind of step at this point, whether by a discount rate change or

otherwise.

Consequently, he had been thinking in terms of a

reduction of 1/4 per cent, with the thought in mind that, if

economic conditions weakened to a greater extent than he considered

likely, the System would not hesitate to make another reduction

promptly.

There were only two arguments that he could see on the other

side, Mr. Swan continued.

The first was Mr. Coombs' observation

that a 1/4 per cent reduction in the Federal Reserve discount rate

might lead to less widespread and smaller reductions by other central

banks than a 1/2 per cent cut would.

While he was not in a position

to assess fully the effects on other countries, he suspected that

some discount rate action by the System, even if not a 1/2 per cent

reduction, would be sufficient to encourage rate reductions abroad.

The other point that concerned him was that of timing of the second

1/4 per cent reduction if it should prove necessary.

Presumably the

System would be precluded from acting in May by the Treasury financing,

and action in June also might not be possible if there was another

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Treasury financing at that time.

If further discount rate action

was to be foreclosed for three months, there might be some question

about the appropriate size of the initial action.

he favored a 1/4 per cent reduction at this point.

On balance, however,

He had not had

an opportunity to discuss the question with the full board of directors

of his Bank, but the matter had been raised at a meeting of the

executive committee, where mixed feelings had been expressed.

Mr. Swan said he would have some difficulty in accepting

alternative A for the directive, in light of the expected discount

rate action.

He could accept alternative B if it were interpreted

to call for maintaining the slight further easing in money market

conditions that would probably follow a 1/4 per cent discount rate

reduction.

It should be explicitly recognized that the Desk should

try to offset any backup in interest rates that might result from

market disappointment with the size of the reduction.

Mr. Galusha reported that the Minnesota legislature had passed

the par clearance bill yesterday, and that that might stimulate the

South Dakota legislature to take similar action.

Hopefully, within

18 months non-par clearance would be a thing of the past in the Ninth

District.

Perhaps the most interesting bit of financial information

gained in his usual pre-FOMC meeting queries, Mr. Galusha said, was

the speedup reported in the time schedule of previous long-term

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commitments.

In one instance a borrower was being urged to draw

down immediately funds previously programmed for late 1968.

In

visiting with business leaders of the Twin Cities, he found a basic

confidence in the ability of the economy to respond as the year wore

on.

Skilled labor continued in extremely short supply.

Agricultural credit, though, was responding slowly, Mr. Galusha

observed.

In the Reserve Bank's latest survey of agricultural credit

conditions, it received virtually no responses indicating an easing

of loan rates, short- or long-term.

Apparently there had been a modest

increase in the number of country banks seeking new farm loans, though,

so perhaps some reduction in rates would come along soon.

According to the Reserve Bank survey, Mr. Galusha said, there

was considerable pessimism among country bankers about farm incomes.

A frequent opinion was that reports should be expected of more and

more farmers who were unable to repay their loans on schedule and of

further declines in spending by farmers on producer and consumer

durables.

Nor was there any indication that farmers generally would

be availing themselves in any substantial measure of the opportunity

to increase plantings.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture would have

to place their bets on the benevolence of God and the weather instead

of the farmer for increased production this year.

ture seemed rather dark.

The mood of agricul

With holding actions and farmer boycotts,

the midwest was hardly waking joyously to spring.

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Turning to monetary policy, Mr. Galusha said he continued to

be a crepe-hanger.

He had to report growing concern among city bankers

about their being, as they put it, returned to the circumstances of

November 1965 and before.

In those areas, like the Twin Cities, where

the competition for consumer CD's was intense among all financial

institutions, the first to move might be severely penalized.

The move

yesterday by a New York bank to lower the rate paid on consumer-type

CD's might be infectious but he was afraid it might be something less

than contagious.

The president of one of the District's large banks

had argued that the Board would have to change Regulation Q to correct

the increasing imbalance between bank lending and borrowing rates.

He (Mr. Galusha) found it distasteful even to contemplate the Board

taking on the task of assuring a profitable spread between those

rates.

But, at the same time, he did believe that District banks were

going to go through agonies in getting their consumer deposit rates

down and, in that connection, that a half-point reduction in the

discount rate would be quite helpful.

It might even be that, if

Reserve Banks generally and the Board decided on a discount rate

reduction, in announcing the change the Board should indicate an

expectation that lower consumer deposit rates would follow.

Were there to be a discount rate change soon, Mr. Galusha said,

he would favor holding free reserves within a $250-$300 million range.

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But, again, he would suggest that whatever the free reserve target,

it should be qualified by an insistence that money market rates not

rise--except perhaps in slight, brief flurries.

Mr. Galusha said that the proviso clause in alternative A of

the draft directives would seem to give the Desk sufficient latitude

to cope with whatever conditions might arise from a discount rate

change.

However, he had no preference between the two alternatives.

Mr. Scanlon said that in the interest of time he would

summarize the remarks he had prepared and submit the full statement

for the record.

He then summarized the following statement:

With March and a period of relatively favorable weather

behind us, we see no evidence in the Seventh District of

renewed strength in business activity. Increasingly, the

situation resembles the latter portion of 1957 when produc

tion of both producer and consumer durable goods was

declining.

Retail sales have remained sluggish, judging by trends

in bank debits, savings, consumer credit, and trade reports.

Periodic reductions have been made in forecasts of

near-term output for steel, autos, trucks, furniture, and

appliances.

The effort to reduce inventories is widespread. Many

bankers find that the need of customers to carry larger

than expected inventories is playing a significant role in

recent strong loan demand. Virtually all types of materials

and components that were in short supply during most of

1966 now are readily available. Lead times on aluminum and

brass products have shortened dramatically and prices have

softened. Forgers and most types of foundries now are

actively seeking new business.

All District States reported new claims for unemployment

compensation to be substantially above a year ago in the

first three weeks of March. For Wisconsin and Michigan

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these claims are the highest for any comparable period since

1961. For Illinois, Iowa, and Indiana, claims, although

above the year-ago levels, are still low in comparison with

the early 1960's.

While mortgage terms have eased somewhat, scattered

evidence shows building permits issued in January and February

to be at very low levels. Sales of existing homes are said

to be improving. The preponderant view in our area continues

to be that no substantial gain in residential construction

will occur until after midyear, with new apartments likely

to be especially slow. The need to arrange financing, prepare

sites, and assemble work staffs will take time.

The banking figures for March continue to reflect

relatively weak credit demands by consumers. The growth

in loans to business at District banks, on the other hand,

was even more rapid than for the U.S. and exceeded the pace

set in any of the past three years. For the first quarter

through mid-March, business loans of District weekly reporting

banks, excluding acceptances, were up 4 per cent, compared with

a 2 per cent nationwide gain. However, there are reasons for

attributing a considerable portion of the demand for bank

credit to temporary factors such as tax payment needs, as well

as the financing of exceptionally large inventories. Much of

the rise during March was attributable to manufacturing industries.

While the Chicago banks' needs for funds prior to April 1

were of about the usual magnitude, they were able to cover these

needs without much difficulty and with relatively little resort

to the discount window. These banks have acquired more than

$180 million of funds in the CD market in the past month

compared with a decline in March 1966.

The money supply--the only aggregate monetary series which

did not increase sharply in January and February--rose rapidly

in March. In large measure the failure of the money supply

to rise concurrently with reserves in the earlier months may

be attributed to the strong demand for CD's as market rates

of interest declined sufficiently to permit banks to again

market CD's successfully. The acceleration in the growth of

money supply in March may reflect satisfaction, at current rates

of interest, of the pent-up demand for CD's by business firms

If this is the case the money supply

and for CD funds by banks.

could be expected to increase more nearly in line with the rate

of growth of total reserves in coming weeks, except as offset

by changes in Treasury deposits.

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The failure of interest rates to decline as sharply

since their peaks of last Autumn as in either 1958 or 1960

in light of strongly expansionary policy probably reflects

both a strong desire of business and consumers to rebuild

liquid assets and the very moderate softening of business

activity thus far.

In considering the proper stance of monetary policy,

one's judgment of the magnitude of the current adjustment

in the economy is critical. If we expect only a slight

weakening, then the very stimulative measures recently

taken may be setting the stage for excessively strong rise

of demand several months hence. On the other hand, if

economic activity is expected to decline or move sideways

for a considerable period, continuation of the current

expansionary policy would seem appropriate.

It appears to our staff that the current adjustment

probably will be moderate, largely because of expansionary

monetary and fiscal actions already taken. It appears

also that recent rates of expansion of reserves, money,

and credit are excessive from any long-term point of view.

Since it seems that monetary policy affects employment,

production, and income with considerable lag, it is

possible that large and extended swings in reserve growth

may have an unstabilizing effect on activity. Nevertheless,

because of the possibility that the current active demand

for credit reflects largely needs associated with past

rather than future activity, I would favor continued rapid

expansion of total reserves and/or money supply until we

see some additional readings on business indicators.

Mr. Scanlon added that it was difficult for him to look upon

a discount rate change as being urgent at a time when the monetary

indicators were expanding as rapidly as they had been recently.

However, he joined those who favored the approach on page 8 of the

blue book involving a 1/4 per cent reduction in the discount rate.

Believing that a 1/4 point decline would be a confirmation of what

the market had already discounted, he would not oppose such a move.

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He would regard the action as just getting the discount rate more

in line with other rates, possibly to be followed soon by another

change of 1/4 point if needed.

That would emphasize rate flexibility

on the downside, hopefully paving the way for flexibility on the

upside when appropriate.

Mr. Scanlon noted that he had had some difficulty in deciding

which alternative he would prefer for the directive.

Since the

explanatory material characterized alternative A as being consistent

with no discount rate change, however, he favored alternative B, as

interpreted by Mr. Ellis.

Mr. Tow reported that moisture conditions were below normal

in most of the Tenth District, and a severe drought continued in a

substantial part of the winter wheat belt.

Over the last five days

considerable rain had fallen along the eastern part of the District,

with variable amounts ranging up to five inches at Kansas City.

that region also was dry, those rains were beneficial.

As

The real

drought area, which involved central and southwestern Kansas, western

Oklahoma including all of the Panhandle, northern New Mexico, and

southern and southeastern Colorado, was not included in the area

of rainfall.

Much of the wheat in the drought area could not be

saved now even by rain, but moisture would be helpful to some of the

wheat and also for pasture and feed crops.

Because of the lack of

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moisture and the lower level of agricultural prices this year, farm

income in the Tenth District probably would be distinctly lower in

1967 than in 1966.

Turning to the national economy, Mr. Tow said that both

current and prospective economic developments called for a continuation

of an expansive monetary policy.

Most of the evidence concerning the

private sector of the economy pointed in that direction.

As was frequently

the case, the appropriate degree of such monetary easing was not equally

clear.

Evidence had to be given to the market that pursuit of such a

policy remained a System objective, Mr. Tow continued.

That did not

mean that any dramatic action was required, but it did mean that there

should not be any reasonable basis for assuming at this juncture that

the System had ceased to pursue that course.

The main objective should

be to encourage a further but moderate easing of interest rates,

particularly with a view to encouraging lower long-term rates.

In

the process of carrying out such a policy, member bank credit expansion

probably would continue in line with that of recent months.

Mr. Tow thought that the instruments used should be both the

Federal Reserve discount rate and open market operations.

Although

some persuasive arguments had been made today for a 1/2 per cent

reduction in the discount rate, he still felt--as he had before today's

meeting--that the reduction should be 1/4 per cent, so that it would

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be a confirming rather than a leading action.

In his opinion, despite

the levels to which Treasury bill rates had declined, a reduction of

1/2 per cent would definitely be a leading action.

Open

market operations

should be the instrument used to assure a moderate degree of further

easing of interest rates.

The aim would be to go somewhat beyond the

confirming action as suggested by the 1/4 per cent discount rate

reduction, but to stop considerably short of the degree of ease, as

described in the blue book, that would be associated with a 1/2 per

cent discount rate reduction.

It did not seem to him that that would

involve an acceleration in the rate of expansion of reserves and bank

credit; it would probably result in expansion rates essentially in

line with those of the recent past.

Alternative B of the draft

directives would be consistent with the policy course he favored.

Mr. Wayne reported that business activity in the Fifth District

continued to weaken.

A special survey of the Richmond Reserve Bank's

regular business panel showed that finished inventories had increased

in the past three months and were above desired levels, especially in the

textile and furniture industries.

Collections on accounts receivable

were also slower than six months ago.

Some marginal textile plants

had been closed and it was reported that more might follow if present

softness continued.

The Reserve Bank's regular survey showed continuing

declines in new and unfilled orders, hours worked, and prices received

for finished goods.

Nonagricultural employment increased slightly in

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February, but factory employment declined.

were down significantly.

Factory payrolls also

Except for West Virginia, insured unemploy

ment rose in all District States in February, but remained below the

national average.

The only bright spot in the District economy was

a slight rise in the construction index in February.

In agriculture,

the entire District peach crop was seriously damaged by frost, but

1967 planting intentions for principal crops were above those of a

year ago.

At the national level, it was clear to Mr. Wayne that the

economy was in the middle of a significant adjustment.

not that was a "recession",

Whether or

it seemed clear to him that the present

trends of the economy would produce a substantial amount of idle

resources in the near future.

Policy over the past three months had

recognized that fact and in that period reserves had been pumped into

the banking system at a rate that was impressive by any standards.

Free reserves showed a $350 million swing for the period, from minus

$100 million to plus $250 million, and projections of total reserves

through March indicated a quarterly increase larger than in any other

quarter in the past ten years.

In addition, over $800 million of

reserves had been made available by the reduction of reserve requirements.

As for policy, Mr. Wayne felt that in the past three months the

Committee had supplied reserves at a rate which could be justified only

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on grounds of a transitory effort to change market sentiments.

As

he viewed the market today, the Committee's lavish provision of

reserves lately had been only partially successful in producing the

desired result.

The heavy buildup in the calendar of corporate and

municipal offerings had held up the long end of the rate structure

and had prevented the ease that had been generated in some parts of

the market from reaching that end.

Yet it seemed to him that it was

precisely in the long end of the market that more ease was needed.

Rate reductions there, coupled with the prospective reinstatement of

tax incentives, were the best hope for cushioning the weakness in

business capital investment and for speeding up recovery in mortgage

markets and in housing.

It seemed to Mr. Wayne that over the next few weeks credit

policy could make a further contribution only to the extent that it

could break the log jam in the long end of the market.

For that

reason he would like to see open market purchases shifted, whenever

feasible, to the coupon area or to agency issues.

To the same end,

he would like to encourage some shifting of capital market borrowing

to the banking system.

The recent reduction in the prime rate was a

welcome move in that direction but his own feeling was that that rate

should come down further.

CD rates in the past week.

He was encouraged also by the declines in

It seemed to him highly desirable to

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maintain downward pressure in those areas, but without increasing

the rate of reserve creation.

In any event, a reduction in the

discount rate struck him as an especially appropriate step to take

at the present juncture.

Such a move would consolidate the System's

recent easing action and at the same time it would promote desirable

adjustments in the rate structure.

Mr. Wayne found himself in general agreement with Mr. Hayes

and, on balance, favored a reduction of 1/2 per cent in the discount

rate.

However, he would prefer, until the next meeting of the

Committee, the open market posture suggested by alternative A of

the draft directives, especially with the double-proviso clause.

Despite comment to the contrary, he did not find those two proposals

inconsistent.

Mr. Shepardson remarked that at this meeting of the Committee,

probably the last that he would attend, he would note that his service

with the System had been a most challenging and rewarding experience.

He was grateful for the opportunity to serve on the Board and the

Committee, and he wanted to express to everyone present his appreciation

for the friendships held out to him.

As to policy, Mr. Shepardson's views were similar to those of

Mr. Wayne.

Certainly the System had been providing reserves at a

very ample rate.

The recent rates of expansion in both bank credit

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and the money supply, while desirable in a transition period, were

too high to be sustained for long.

As Mr. Ellis had suggested, by

pushing too far toward ease now the Committee very likely would be

building up problems for the future.

Accordingly, he favored alter

native A of the draft directives, modified as Mr. Hayes had suggested

to call for maintaining the present degree of reserve availability.

Such a course would make it less likely that open market operations

would push the expansion in money and credit to rates higher than

those recently prevailing.

With respect to the discount rate, Mr. Shepardson said that

he would be averse to taking any action that might be considered a

leading action.

He thought, however, that a reduction of 1/2 per cent

would be desirable at this time in view of the levels to which some

rates--particularly bill rates--had fallen in recent days, and in view

of the stickiness of other rates, which perhaps reflected psychological

factors more than credit availability.

A reduction of 1/2 per cent

now also would make it more feasible to raise the discount rate later

in the year if that became necessary.

Mr. Mitchell said he also favored a 1/2 per cent decrease in

the discount rate.

As Mr. Hayes had suggested, that action should be

accompanied with no fanfare.

With respect to the financial aggregates,

he wondered whether the satisfaction some had expressed this morning

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regarding what had been achieved in the recent transition period

was wholly warranted.

GNP in the first quarter of 1967, as

projected by the staff, was 6 per cent higher than a year earlier,

but in February the money supply was only 1.4 per cent above

February 1966.

Money supply expansion accelerated in March, but

growth in the twelve months ending then was still only 2 per cent.

It was clear that there still was some catching up to be done, and

he saw no reason to be alarmed about the pace at which the money

supply and bank credit had been growing recently.

Mr. Mitchell then referred to Mr. Hayes' proposed replacement

for the statement on the balance of payments in the first paragraph

of the draft directive.

He (Mr. Mitchell) had understood Mr. Reynolds

to say that there had not actually been any significant change in the

over-all payments position, at least relative to the fourth quarter,

and that real improvement was occurring in the trade balance.

In

view of Mr. Reynolds' analysis, he would not favor the language

Mr. Hayes had proposed.

Mr. Mitchell concluded by noting that he preferred alter

native B for the second paragraph of the directive.

Mr. Daane commented that economic conditions certainly

warranted the System's continuing an ease policy and continuing to

make that policy clear, but how much ease should be sought was to

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him a much more difficult question.

One problem he had with the

blue book analysis--and with the comments of a number of speakers

today--was that, in a sense, too sharp a separation was made among

the System's instruments.

Thus, the blue book first discussed

seeking further ease through open market operations alone, and

translated that into a free reserve target range of $300-$350

million.

It said little about open market operations in discussing

the implications of a 1/4 per cent reduction in the discount rate.

It then indicated that a 1/2 per cent discount rate cut "would

probably require a follow through over the weeks ahead in the form

of somewhat larger free reserve positions," which might be taken

to imply the $300-$350 million range mentioned earlier as consistent

with further ease in the absence of a discount rate change.

He

would approach the problem from the other direction, by saying he

favored somewhat greater reserve availability; that, to him was

the key.

He agreed with the view that it was necessary to go

somewhat further in providing liquidity to the economy.

It was less easy to say by how much the discount rate should

be reduced, Mr. Daane continued.

A week ago he had thought that a

1/4 per cent cut would be consistent with somewhat greater reserve

availability and would confirm to the market the viability of current

interest rate levels.

But as he sensed more recent developments in

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the market, that was no longer true.

His present view, based partly

on conversations with several market participants, was that a 1/4

per cent cut would be interpreted more as a cautionary signal than

as a stimulative one.

As one market participant had put it, market

expectations had already placed the System in the position of having

to make a 1/2 per cent change if it were to take a meaningful action.

He was a little unhappy about being led by the market in that manner;

he would have much preferred a 1/4 per cent reduction now, to be

followed at a later point by a similar reduction if it was decided

that continued easing was desirable.

He was not sure that the course

Mr. Hayes advocated--of reducing the discount rate by 1/2 per cent

and standing pat on reserve availability--was a consistent one.

A

1/2 point reduction in the discount rate was likely to generate

market expectations that would outrun the reserve availability

conditions the Committee would be seeking if it adopted alternative A

with the amendment suggested by Mr. Hayes.

In sum, Mr. Daane said, he would favor somewhat greater

reserve availability and whatever discount rate change would be

consistent with that goal.

He felt that a 1/2 per cent cut was more

likely to be consistent, but he would not be averse to 1/4 per cent

cut if it would not produce undesirable reactions.

He was inclined

toward alternative B for the directive, but would amend it to call

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for operations "with a view to attaining somewhat greater reserve

availability."

Mr. Maisel said he would discuss two separate questions

today.

First, he would urge that more operations take place in

the longer end of the coupon market; and, secondly, he would comment

about open market operations and the proper level of the discount

rate.

Mr. Maisel thought the Desk was to be congratulated for its

greater recent activity in coupon issues.

It would be useful over

the next two months to concentrate still more of the Committee's

efforts in coupon issues, preferably with maturities of over five

years.

Interest rates on longer-term bonds and mortgages--the

areas in which monetary policy was expected to do the most good

in the coming year--had lagged abnormally behind short-term rates.

Concentrating more purchases in the longer area might aid in cutting

that lag.

Mr. Maisel said he was not suggesting an "operation twist."

In order to avoid any assumption that the Committee was attempting

to hold short-term rates up, coupon issues should not be bought

when it was necessary to sell bills.

In the past year, except for

its most recent operations, the Committee had been relatively

inactive in the coupon market.

Considerably larger transactions

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could be undertaken without causing the Committee to move outside

the pattern of previous years.

The System's portfolio also showed a

considerable scope for coupon purchases in terms of past traditions.

In addition to narrowing the lag between current Committee policy

and the desired monetary objectives, action in the coupon area might

aid in maintaining expectations and thus might slow somewhat the

rush to get into the long-term market.

With respect to current policy and the discount rate,

Mr. Maisel believed the alternative directives offered were not

achievable in terms of their stated objectives.

Alternative A,

with its related discount prescription, could not "maintain

prevailing easier conditions."

Assuming it were tied to a "no-change"

policy for the discount rate, it would mean that in the attempt to

maintain current, ease, far more total reserves and marginal reserves

would have to be furnished than under alternative B; and, even then,

interest rates would back up a good deal.

In the past four months, Mr. Maisel continued, the amount

of ease in the market with respect to rates, and also with respect

to bank credit expansion, had occurred only partly through the

Committee's own action.

Much more of existing market conditions

had been brought about by the expectational forces in the market.

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Mr. Maisel reported that last week he spent three days

talking to over 50 officers of about 10 bank and nonbank dealers.

While their statements clearly were partly self-serving, their

general views of the market and their conclusions seemed to make

sense and to agree with the logic of the current situation.

All

agreed that current market rates and activity assumed that the

discount rate would be changed.

All agreed that there would be

a sharp reaction in expectations and rates if the discount rate

were not changed prior to the announcement of the next Treasury

operation.

In the midst of such a reaction, any attempt to

maintain "prevailing easier conditions," as directed by alternative A,

would require an exceedingly large injection of reserves.

The people with whom he had talked, Mr. Maisel continued,

also agreed virtually unanimously that a 1/4 per cent change in the

discount rate would be construed as indicating that the System

believed that it might have to reverse monetary policy sharply in

the near future and thus was reluctant to go to 4 per cent.

As a

result, more than half felt that a 1/4 per cent change in the

discount rate would also cause a downward shift in expectations.

It was too late to think the System could make two separate 1/4 per

cent rate changes.

Again, far more reserves would have to be furnished

in order to maintain the current amount of ease and the current interest

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rate pattern.

Banks could not be expected to continue to buy

securities with their reserves if they felt the System was

uncertain about the near future.

They also indicated that a

1/2 per cent change would be interpreted as reflecting a System

desire for further ease, but the reaction might not be great

because expectations had already been at work.

Mr. Maisel concluded that only a 4 per cent discount rate

would enable the System to maintain prevailing easier conditions

without a massive infusion of reserves.

Either no change in the

rate or the smaller change would mean that the System would have

to furnish reserves both to take the place of the forces arising

from current expectations and to offset the effect of a sharp

reversal in expectations.

Either alternative A or B for the

directive might well require much larger reserves than indicated

unless the discount rate were reduced by 1/2 per cent.

As a result, Mr. Maisel said, he supported alternative B

and a full 1/2 per cent decline in the discount rate.

With such

a combination, he thought slightly lower short-term rates would

result, although developments in the last day or two clearly

indicated that even the 1/2 per cent decrease had been almost

fully discounted by the market.

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With the discount change and more operations in coupon

issues, Mr. Maisel observed, greater impact on long-term rates

also could be expected.

That might be possible without any

near-term increase in the marginal reserve measures compared to

the present.

That policy would probably give a rate of expansion

in bank credit and the money supply close to recent rates and

that, too, he would find acceptable.

Because of his feelings, Mr. Maisel concluded, he would

prefer to see alternative B reduced one degree in wording, by

changing the phrase "attaining somewhat easier conditions" to

read "maintaining the prevailing easier conditions"; and by

changing the proviso clause to call for "attaining somewhat

easier conditions" if bank credit was expanding less than expected,

rather than calling for "still easier conditions" in that eventuality.

Mr. Brimmer said he would urge the Reserve Banks to consider

reducing the discount rate by 1/2 per cent.

He thought that somewhat

greater reserve provision would be required in conjunction with that

action if the Committee was to achieve the objectives the members

had in mind.

Accordingly, he preferred alternative B for the

directive, perhaps with changes along the lines suggested by Mr. Maisel.

Mr. Brimmer noted that he favored a 1/2 per cent cut in the

discount rate partly because he would like to avoid a need for the

Board to change Regulation Q at this time to force deposit interest

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rates down, in the manner Mr. Galusha had indicated one banker

recently suggested.

The way in which Regulation Q had been used

in 1966 was not, in his judgment, the most desirable; while deposit

rates tended to be sticky, the System should not put itself in the

position of manipulating Regulation Q ceilings as an alternative

to relying on the workings of market forces.

A discount rate

reduction of 1/2 per cent would be helpful in persuading depositary

institutions to lower the rates they paid.

It also would be helpful

in encouraging European central banks to take similar action.

Even

if the System had a second opportunity to lower its discount rate

later in the year, he would hope that it would not plan now on two

1/4 per cent reductions, since the second action might have little

effect on foreign central bank actions.

Mr. Brimmer also favored encouraging the Manager to take

advantage of opportunities to buy coupon issues, in order to help

overcome stickiness in long-term rates.

At the same time, he was

not recommending an "operation twist"; he was not disturbed by the

fact that short-term rates had been going down.

Mr. Brimmer said he shared Mr. Mitchell's concern about

the appropriateness of the statement on the balance of payments

that Mr. Hayes had proposed for the directive.

The statement would

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imply that the improvement in the trade surplus had been more than

offset by deterioration on capital account, and he questioned

whether that could be demonstrated.

Mr. Hayes commented that his purpose had been to make a

broad statement on the balance of payments situation, without

pinpointing particular figures, such as those for the liquidity or

official settlements deficits before or after seasonal adjustments.

While the official settlements balance in particular had worsened

drastically, considering the various measures together it seemed

to him that the over-all picture was clearly one of deterioration.

Chairman Martin noted that Mr.

suggestion, which read:

Solomon had an alternative

"The balance of payments remains a serious

problem despite some recent improvement in

the foreign trade surplus."

Mr. Daane said he would not favor that language because it

conveyed some implication of an improvement in the payments balance.

Certainly there had been no improvement; it would be more accurate,

in his judgment, to convey the sense of some deterioration.

Mr. Brimmer said he was giving special weight to Mr. Reynolds'

comments about the new projections by Government analysts.

He

recalled that Mr. Reynolds had said that, leaving aside the various

special transactions, it appeared as if the liquidity deficit would

be somewhat smaller in 1967 than in 1966; and if one assumed that the

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special transactions would have a favorable effect this year about

half as great as they had last year, the published liquidity deficit,

including such transactions, would be about unchanged.

On the other

hand, the balance on the official reserve transactions basis probably

would deteriorate this year, primarily because of the reflow of

funds from U.S. banks to their foreign branches.

Accordingly, the

language suggested by Mr. Solomon might be better than that in the

staff draft.

Mr. Hayes referred to Mr. Brimmer's comment that he was

giving special weight to the projections that Mr. Reynolds had

mentioned.

In his (Mr. Hayes') judgment, those projections con

tained a large element of hope.

The Committee traditionally had

based the statements in the first paragraph of the directive on

developments actually observed rather than on hopes or expectations,

and he thought it should continue to do so.

Mr. Brimmer agreed with Mr. Hayes' comment on the directive,

but added that it was his impression that the projections took into

consideration all of the available evidence, including the latest

figures.

Mr. Hayes then noted that he would not favor Mr. Solomon's

proposed language since the only detail mentioned was the improve

ment in the foreign trade surplus.

If there had been any change in

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the over-all situation it had been for the worse rather than for

the better.

Mr. Hickman observed that the economy apparently continued

to slide in March, so far as could be determined from available

data.

As the Committee knew, it was sometimes possible to detect

early changes in direction from the statistics for the Fourth

District because of the dominant role of durable goods manufacturing

in that District.

While it was necessary to guard against being

too bearish, the latest signals provided little indication of a

turnaround.

Latest District data on manufacturing employment and

payrolls, as well as steel production, nonresidential construction,

and car sales, all showed significant declines.

Insured unemploy

ment increased in March in ten of the fourteen major labor market

areas of the District, and the over-all increase was sharper than

in the nation.

The regular quarterly meeting of Fourth District business

economists was held at the Cleveland Reserve Bank in mid-March,

Mr. Hickman noted.

The group's latest forecasts of industrial

production and of GNP were almost uniformly lower than they had

been three months earlier.

Three months ago, the median forecast

for industrial production showed quarterly increases throughout

1967 for an over-all gain of about 3 per cent; at the latest meeting,

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the group expected no change from the reduced first-quarter level

until the fourth quarter, and then a slight rise, for an over-all

gain of about 1-1/2 per cent.

The general tone of the discussion

at the meeting was even gloomier than the numbers would indicate,

as evidenced by frequent reports of declining orders and an end to

increasing backlogs.

Softness was indicated in orders for trucks,

electrical machinery, aluminum, and flat-rolled steel products.

His staff was even more bearish than the Fourth District economists;

the staff expected a further decline in production in the second

quarter, along with rising unemployment.

Mr. Hickman felt that the System had accomplished much since

the last meeting of the Committee, and the Manager was to be con

gratulated for his skillful execution.

needed.

More of the same was clearly

Some of the things he would like to see the System accomplish

in April were:

(1) a continuation of the recent rate of expansion

of money and credit; (2) a 91-day bill rate around 4 per cent, and

a Federal funds rate below the discount rate; (3) continued downward

pressure on intermediate- and long-term rates to encourage an

enlarged flow of funds to the mortgage market; and (4) net free

reserves about $300 million.

That list was consistent with the staff's alternative B,

Mr. Hickman said.

In addition, he thought the time was now ripe for

a discount rate reduction--the stage had been set internationally,

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domestic money market participants expected it, and the economy

needed it.

His directors were ready to act on a recommendation,

either this Thursday or next.

or 1/2 per cent?

Should the reduction be 1/4 per cent

Before today's meeting he personally had favored

the smaller move, to conserve ammunition.

But, after hearing the

discussion around the table today, he was inclined toward a

reduction of 1/2 per cent.

In any event, he would like to move

as soon as possible in view of the impending Treasury refunding.

The important thing was to move as closely together as possible.

Mr. Hickman thought the System should seek at all costs

to prevent the type of backup in interest rates and bond yields

that occurred in February, since that might interrupt the smooth

flow of funds through financial markets.

The Manager should move

promptly through open market operations to prevent any signs of

congestion from developing in the bond market, even if free

reserves might rise temporarily to very high levels.

The present

situation in the bond market contained elements of instability

caused by the buildup of the Blue List, the continued heavy

corporate calendar, and the possible reversal of some long positions

by free riders and speculators.

Mr. Bopp remarked that the debate about whether the economy

was in a recession still went on at the Philadelphia Reserve Bank,

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just as it did elsewhere.

There was agreement, however, that the

economy was continuing to slow down and that gloomy expectations

were spreading.

That was apparent from an informal survey of Third District

businessmen the Reserve Bank had just completed, Mr. Bopp continued.

The canvass was a resurvey of a group with whom the Bank had been

in touch about two months ago in an effort to get an up-to-date

picture of the inventory situation.

At that time many of the

businessmen had felt that inventories were relatively high, but

they expected that an upturn in sales would help them adjust

inventories without significant cuts in production or employment.

Now, however, half of those companies reported that the expected

sales had failed to materialize and that they had cut production.

A number planned further cuts.

Some of those who planned no

immediate change said they would need signs of renewed strength

soon to justify the current level of operations.

felt conditions would improve before summer.

None of them

However, none

expected an actual downturn in business this year, and most looked

for new strength by the fourth quarter.

Mr. Bopp found confirming developments in Third District

banking.

Tax borrowing in March was very light and prepayments

had been picking up, although some of that reflected funding through

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capital market financing.

Faced with waning loan demand, a

majority of the large banks were revising their growth projections

downward.

Sentiment was becoming weaker and more uncertain, Mr. Bopp

continued, but there still was an underlying confidence in the

economy.

There was a question of how much more monetary policy

could do to keep that confidence alive.

Nevertheless, at this

critical phase, policy might help to determine whether there was

mainly an inventory adjustment or a cumulative downturn.

The

impact of the adjustment on employment and incomes already had

become apparent, and the adjustment still had a way to go.

It

was desirable to continue to minimize those adverse secondary

effects on employment and income.

Given those developments, Mr. Bopp said, it would be well

for the Federal Reserve to confirm its intention to continue ease.

The easiest way to accomplish that was by an early reduction of

1/2 per cent in the discount rate.

A smaller reduction might have

little easing effect because the market had already discounted

some reduction.

In fact, because in recent history rate changes

had usually been in 1/2 per cent steps, a smaller reduction could

have an adverse effect on business sentiment.

The recent increases in money and credit had been all to

the good and should be continued, Mr. Bopp thought, particularly

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since some rates had been sticky.

Net free reserves running at

$300 million or above would seem appropriate in order to accomplish

that and to bring about a further decline in rates.

He favored

alternative B of the staff draft directives, although in light of

the discussion today he did not feel strongly on the point.

Mr. Patterson said that since recent economic developments

in the Sixth District were generally similar to those for the

country as a whole that had already been reported, he would not

take the time to review them.

Looking at the national banking

figures, he came to the conclusion that credit was readily

available.

Banks evidently had accumulated enough securities by

now to satisfy even an upsurge in loan demand, although he would

concede that many were still rebuilding their liquidity.

Therefore,

he wondered if the point had not come to take a hard look before

inundating the economy with reserves.

If a recession were around

the corner, that would be the correct path to follow.

But, as of

now, he still saw too many inconsistencies in the economic indicators,

such as rising incomes, on the one hand, and sluggish retail spending,

on the other.

It used to be said that monetary policy was determined by

what was going on currently and never by prospects for the future,

Mr. Patterson observed.

The Committee had come a long way from that,

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as the use of the green book testified, and he might add that it

was a good thing it had.

Personally, however, he found that future

developments in two of the most important sectors in the economyinventories and defense--were extremely unclear.

Because of that

poor visibility, it seemed to him that right now the best policy

to follow was to wait until the Committee was more certain of the

future before easing further.

For those reasons, he believed that

the Committee should not try to push rates down further at this

time.

On the other hand, Mr. Patterson said, this was hardly a

time at which a rise in interest rates was wanted.

Perhaps one of

the best ways to avoid such a rise would be to lower the discount

rate.

Otherwise, there might be a risk of misleading the market

regarding the System's policy posture and seeing a possible

repetition of the interest rate reversal of early February.

It

was largely with those considerations in mind that the executive

committee of his Bank's board of directors, with his endorsement,

voted in favor of a 4-1/4 per cent discount rate last week.

In

his opinion, such a modest move would give the necessary flexibility

for whatever discount rate action the System might want to undertake

in the future.

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Mr. Patterson favored alternative A for the second paragraph

of the directive, with one amendment.

Following the opening phrase

reading "To implement this policy," he would insert the phrase

"against the background of a small cut in the discount rate."

Mr. Francis commented that it had been adequately pointed

out this morning that spending and production growth rates had

slowed in recent months.

To date, however, data did not indicate

a serious economic contraction but rather the kind of adjustment

that the Committee sought last spring and summer.

Despite the

softening in demand, employment and personal incomes had continued

to rise at high rates.

At the same time, upward pressures on

prices had desirably lessened; goods were more readily available,

and bottlenecks had been reduced.

In general, the economy was

probably healthier than it was last summer.

There were, to be sure, some disconcerting developments

in the economy which could lead to an undesirable economic con

traction, Mr. Francis said.

The high inventory-to-sales situation,

the underemployment of workers at some firms, and the relatively

high burden of consumer debt repayments were examples of those

drags.

However, economic conditions were being stimulated by

Government stabilization actions which could more than offset the

dampening forces.

According to commonly used measures, the budget

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had been very stimulative, and indications were that it would

become more expansionary in the quarter just commencing.

In the

last two or three months, monetary actions shifted markedly from

restraint to ease.

Mr. Francis thought that recent monetary expansion had been

desirable in view of current economic conditions and outlook.

From

what was known about the lags with which monetary expansion affected

the economy, that expansion should have a desirable stimulative

effect late this spring and in the summer.

What was done in the

immediate future might have most of its effect in late summer and

early fall.

Mr. Francis believed the Committee should continue to assure

monetary expansion.

Since the imperfections of data were so great

and the knowledge of linkages and lags was so limited, it was very

difficult to judge whether the rate of monetary expansion in the

last two or three months had been too great, too limited, or about

right.

At the last meeting of the Committee it was apparent that

monetary expansion had occurred.

Yet, past experience with those

data left room for doubt as to whether adequate expansion would be

sustained.

Now, however, it seemed to him that there was little

doubt that monetary expansion had been achieved at a very rapid

rate.

Over the past three months total reserves had gone up at a

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17 per cent annual rate, bank credit at a 15 per cent rate, and

money supply at a 5 per cent rate.

In considerable measure, Mr. Francis continued, the

expansion of bank credit had reflected reintermediation and

further intermediation by the commercial banking system.

That

aspect of recent bank credit growth and its accompanying expansion

of total reserves probably had a neutral effect on the economy.

Therefore, he thought the 15 per cent rate of increase of total

bank credit and the 17 per cent rate of increase of reserves

overstated the degree of monetary stimulus.

However, quite aside

from the bank intermediation factor, bank reserves had been

expanded sufficiently to allow the money supply to increase at

a 5 per cent annual rate in the last three months.

That was a

very high rate, historically, and suggested that the Committee

should consider the possibility of excessive expansion as well

as the possibility of inadequate expansion, as provided in

alternative A of the staff draft directives.

Overreacting to

the monetary contraction of last summer and fall would create

future problems.

To that end, Mr. Francis suggested that the Committee

provide for maintaining the same money market conditions as those

of the past two weeks and include a double-edged proviso clause;

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namely, if the pertinent intermediate objective appeared to be

expanding inordinately, the money market be permitted to tighten;

if the intermediate measure appeared to be expanding too slowly,

market conditions be eased.

If the Committee selected the rate of increase of member

bank deposits as its operating guide and used the staff's projected

pattern of data for April and May, Mr. Francis would suggest a

target growth range of 10 to 13 per cent per annum from March to

April compared with the 15 per cent rate since December.

Assuming

that time deposit growth slowed to about a 12 per cent rate from

the 18 per cent rate of the past three months and that other

factors moved as expected, there might be no increase of the money

supply from March to April.

That would be appropriate in view of

the anticipated extraordinary transfer of funds to the Treasury in

April and a return flow in May.

That would give the Committee

about a 5 per cent rate of increase of money for the February-May

period as a whole.

As to the discount rate, Mr. Francis preferred to leave it

unchanged for a while longer, partly because of difficulties the

System might face if it had to raise it later.

Open market operations

could inject an adequate supply of bank reserves, and there did not

appear to be any need to give the market a psychological jolt at this

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Also, it was not yet clear that market interest rates

would continue to decline more than a month or two.

Thereafter,

if spending and demands for credit accelerated, as he envisaged,

market interest rates were apt to rise again.

Hence, a discount

rate decrease now might have to be quickly followed by an increase.

In Mr. Francis' opinion the System's decision about the

discount rate should not be affected by the market's expectations.

The System should fix the discount rate on its own merit.

Last

summer the System operated for a time with the discount rate far

below the bill rate yet was able to limit monetary expansion.

Now

he thought monetary expansion could be adequately stimulated even

though the bill rate was below the discount rate.

Combining that

procedure with the experience of last summer, possibly the System

could get away from using the discount rate as a necessary indicator

or confirmation of monetary policy and action.

If the discount rate

was to be changed at this time, however, he would prefer a 1/2 per

cent reduction to one of a 1/4 per cent.

Mr. Francis favored alternative A of the draft directives.

Mr. Robertson presented the following statement:

The evidence before us indicates that the economy

is in the midst of a necessary transition, and that what

is called for on our part is the provision of an accommo

dative credit atmosphere to insure that the economic

adjustment is both brief and constructive.

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As I read the financial figures, it seems clear that

we have made very substantial progress in this direction.

Certainly the data bearing on flows of funds suggest that

credit supplies are becoming ample. At commercial banks,

both time and demand deposits are climbing about as

briskly as in the most stimulative periods in the years

1961-1965. And this is not a case of "robbing Peter to

pay Paul"--banks are not simply taking these funds away

from other lenders. On the contrary, reports suggest

large inflows of funds are also accruing to other savings

intermediaries and even to the long-term bond markets

directly.

Some observers have been unhappy at how little in the

way of interest rate declines, in the longer-term area, has

accompanied this resurgence of flows. I, myself, am more

concerned with flows than with rates, but I recognize that

there can be times and places when a sticky interest rate

structure is indicative of a problem of restricted flows

that the System ought to be taking into account. What

might be appropriate System action in such circumstances,

however, is open to debate.

Suggestions have been made that we should revive an

"Operation Twist" for this purpose, which moves me to say

a few words on that subject.

Quite aside from whether any real economic advantage

flowed from Operation Twist, which is questionable, the

part actually played in the Operation by Federal Reserve

purchases of longer-term securities in the open market

has been grossly exaggerated. On the record, it is

greatly overshadowed by such influences as sharply

increased commercial bank intermediation, under the

liberalized Regulation Q ceilings that were provided.

Furthermore, a considerable portion of official purchases

of coupon issues, by the Federal Reserve as well as the

Treasury, served essentially to mop up the overhang of

securities in the market that resulted from aggressive

Federal debt-lengthening activities on the part of both

the Treasury and its underwriters.

Any use of this twisting path will jeopardize, and

continued use will extinguish, the traditional "independence"

of the System, which I, for one, would like to avoid. If

the impact of Federal debt lengthening needs to be moderated,

I would prefer doing it by means of a judicious tailoring of

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debt management operations themselves, rather than using

the Federal Reserve to pick up the pieces. (I am aware,

of course, that this has not been a problem recently, but

I also am aware that before this Committee meets again

the Treasury will have faced a major quarterly refunding

decision that may make these comments timely once again.)

Most important from a longer-run point of view,

however, is what Federal Reserve purchases aimed at a

particular objective can do to the effective functioning

of the private market mechanism. I remain persuaded that

such System operations can easily lure private market

participants into depending upon System buying power and

quickly conforming their pricing to System rate goals,

without ever giving the kind of "feedback" signals of the

changing intensity of private market supplies and demands

that are so essential to effective dealer operations, and

also to good and timely monetary policy formulation. I,

for one, therefore, am opposed to Federal Reserve inter

vention in the market for longer-term securities at this

juncture as part of a new application of Operation Twist.

If this is one of those times when longer-term bond,

mortgage, and deposit rates are proving so sticky as to

inhibit free and accommodative credit flows, then I favor

dealing with the problem by increased reliance on those

instruments of monetary policy that tend to exert more

downward pressure upon interest rates per dollar of

reserves released than typically results from an analogous

sized open market operation. I refer to changes in discount

rates and reserve requirements. Either one of these instru

ments can exert an interest rate influence quickly and with

less debilitating effects upon private market mechanisms

than outright open market purchases of long Governments.

We used a reserve requirement cut very effectively in

early March to achieve both timely reserve injection and a

rally in market rates. I think we can use a discount rate

cut now with equal effectiveness. And because I would

prefer to see Federal Reserve downward rate pressure on

some of the sticky loan and deposit rates applied through

this indirect means, I would favor a full 1/2 point cut in

the discount rate as soon as it can be done. (A 1/4 point

change might seem equivocal to the markets, and I would like

for us to be in an unequivocal position. Money market rates

have now declined enough so that a 1/2 point cut would not

appear extreme, and I believe credit conditions generally

would be benefited by such a step.)

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With these thoughts in mind about the uses of other

policy instruments, I would favor directing the Manager

to conduct open market operations in such a way as to

bolster and sustain the easier money market conditions

that might be expected to emerge with a discount rate cut.

Specifically, I would vote in favor of alternative B as

drafted by the staff. I could accept some of the changes

that have been suggested, but so many changes have been

proposed that it might be best to stay with the staff

language. I must say that I would still prefer the kind

of proviso clause construction that I advocated at the

last meeting, namely, two-way proviso language but with

the understanding that deviations of bank credit on the

upside would have to be a good deal larger to be inter

preted as "significant" than would deviations on the

downside. I still think it represents good economics,

in a period when we have more cause to be worried about

economic contraction than about exuberance.

Chairman Martin said he did not think the members of the

Committee were as far apart in their thinking today as might appear

from some of the comments that had been made.

At the same time, it

seemed to him that the spectrum of views presented in the go-around

was particularly helpful in contributing to constructive thinking

about the problems currently facing the System.

Before today's meeting, the Chairman continued, he had thought

that he could accept either a 1/4 or 1/2 per cent reduction in the

discount rate.

However, certain comments in the go-around had

convinced him that a 1/2 per cent reduction would be the right action

now.

If there was any likelihood that a 1/4 per cent cut would be

followed by another similar reduction soon, to establish a 4-1/4 per

cent discount rate would be confusing to the market in a period just

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before a Treasury financing.

That struck him as a highly persuasive

argument for a 4 per cent discount rate.

Chairman Martin favored alternative B for the directive,

although he thought the Committee might want to consider the amend

ments to the staff draft that Mr. Maisel had proposed.

He doubted

that a two-way proviso clause was necessary or desirable at this

time.

Mr. Koch observed that it seemed clear from what Mr. Holmes

and others had said that there would be some easing in money market

conditions, viewed broadly, if the discount rate was reduced by 1/2

per cent.

That raised a question of consistency if, as Mr. Maisel

had proposed, the directive called for "maintaining the prevailing

easier conditions in the money market."

He would suggest using the

language of the staff's alternative B, calling for "attaining

somewhat easier conditions," on the understanding that the easing

envisaged was expected to be brought about by the discount rate

action rather than through open market operations.

Mr. Maisel commented that the understanding Mr. Koch had

mentioned was what he had had in mind in making his suggestions for

the directive.

Mr. Holmes remarked that while there might be some problem

in finding the appropriate language for the directive, he thought the

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Committee's intent was quite clear:

if discount rate action tended

to produce easier market conditions, that tendency should not be

offset by open market operations.

On the other hand, easier conditions

should not be actively sought by open market operations independently

of the effects of the discount rate change.

Mr. Hayes said he thought Mr. Koch's point was well taken.

As he understood the Committee's intent, the discount rate change

should be the main source of easing.

Open market operations would be

used to back up the effects of the discount rate action, but would

not be employed in themselves to achieve further ease.

Chairman Martin said he was agreeable to accepting the language

of the staff's alternative B on that basis.

Several other members

expressed agreement with the Chairman's statement.

Mr. Hayes asked whether the Committee would be averse to

employing a two-way proviso in alternative B, to be interpreted in

the manner Mr. Robertson had suggested.

result in a much better directive.

In his judgment that would

While he doubted that the upper

side of the proviso would be called into play in the coming period,

to include it would indicate that the Committee was aware of the

possible problem of excessive bank credit growth.

Chairman Martin said he thought it would be clear that the

Committee was aware of that problem in any case.

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-97Mr. Swan remarked that a two-way proviso, even if interpreted

as Mr. Robertson had suggested, would seem to him to change the whole

tone of the directive.

He would much prefer the language of the

staff's draft.

Mr. Daane observed that while in general he was sympathetic

with the use of a two-way proviso, he did not think one was needed

at this particular juncture.

Mr. Hickman concurred, noting that if bank credit appeared

to be rising excessively the Committee could hold a special meeting

to consider a possible change in its instructions.

Chairman Martin then referred to the earlier discussion of

the balance of payments sentence in the first paragraph of the

directive, and indicated that Mr. Reynolds now suggested the following

language:

"The balance of payments deficit increased in the first

quarter despite some improvement in the foreign trade surplus."

There was general agreement on the language Mr. Reynolds

had proposed.

Thereupon, upon motion duly made

and seconded, and by unanimous vote,

the Federal Reserve Bank of New York

was authorized and directed, until

otherwise directed by the Committee,

to execute transactions in the System

Account in accordance with the following

current economic policy directive:

The economic and financial developments reviewed at

this meeting support earlier indications of a marked

slowing of expansion in over-all economic activity. Retail

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sales have continued sluggish and curtailment in the rate

of business inventory accumulation is in process. Average

commodity prices have changed little recently, but unit

labor costs in manufacturing have risen further. Bank

credit expansion has remained vigorous, short-term

interest rates have declined markedly further, and long

term rates have moved down somewhat despite very heavy

securities market flotations. The balance of payments

deficit increased in the first quarter despite some

improvement in the foreign trade surplus. In several

important countries abroad, monetary and fiscal policies

have eased further in response to slackened economic

activity. In this situation, it is the Federal Open

Market Committee's policy to foster money and credit

conditions, including bank credit growth, conducive to

combatting the effects of weakening tendencies in the

economy, while recognizing the need for progress toward

reasonable equilibrium in the country's balance of payments.

To implement this policy, System open market operations

until the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted

with a view to attaining somewhat easier conditions in the

money market, and to attaining still easier conditions if

bank credit appears to be expanding significantly less

than currently anticipated.

Chairman Martin then said that he would like to add a few

words on the subject of the discount rate.

He thought it should be

recognized that responsibility for initiating discount rate actions

lay with the Federal Reserve Banks.

If the directors of any Bank

felt strongly that the rate should be established at 4-1/4 per cent,

he personally would not be inclined to vote to disapprove such a

rate.

He saw no harm in having a discount rate of 4 per cent at

some Banks and 4-1/4 per cent at others, at least temporarily.

Mr. Brimmer noted that while several Reserve Bank Presidents

had expressed a preference for a 4-1/4 per cent discount rate in the

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course of today's discussion, he had not detected much evidence

that they felt strongly.

On the other hand, at least one President

had indicated that he had favored a 4-1/4 per cent rate earlier but

now preferred a 4 per cent rate.

He personally would hope that the

Reserve Banks would think carefully about the possible disadvantages

of announcing a split discount rate in the existing environment.

Messrs. Mitchell and Hickman indicated that they also

thought it was important to have a uniform discount rate.

Chairman Martin agreed that it might be best if all Reserve

Banks moved to a 4 per cent rate.

But to make that statement was

not the same thing as insisting on uniformity, which he was not

inclined to do,,

Mr. Ellis said that he would prefer to have the Board defer

action with respect to the 4-1/4 per cent rate established last

week by the directors of the Boston Reserve Bank until the directors

could meet again and consider the matter further.

In response to a question by Mr. Wayne, Chairman Martin said

that he would not consider it necessary for all Banks to move

together.

The Board's present thinking on timing was that if three,

four, or five Banks had established new discount rates by Thursday

of this week it would approve those changes, and plan on acting

promptly with respect to new rates established subsequently by other

Banks.

In any case, the Board would not take any action on discount

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rates before Thursday.

In that connection, it was important that

the discussion of discount rates at today's meeting be held in

confidence until the action was announced.

Mr. Robertson then reported that the "eligible paper" bill,

which would permit member banks to borrow from the Reserve Banks

on any sound asset without paying a penalty rate of interest,

probably would be passed by the Senate shortly and then would be

taken up by the House of Representatives.

One of the first ques

tions likely to be raised in the House was whether the System was

prepared to deal with the wide range of collateral that would be

eligible under the bill; it had been suggested that System personnel

might be relatively inexperienced in appraising mortgages, municipal

securities, and the like.

Consequently, it seemed desirable for

the System to launch a program to provide any necessary training

for its personnel.

He would suggest setting up an ad hoc committee

with Reserve Bank and Board representation to assess existing train

ing needs and to develop a program for dealing with them.

If the

Reserve Bank Presidents and Board members thought such a course

would be worthwhile, initiating actions could be taken immediately.

Mr. Hayes noted that the Presidents' Conference Committee

on Discounts and Credits had an interest in this area and would be

glad to work on implementing a program such as Mr. Robertson had

suggested.

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No objection was raised to instituting a program of the

type Mr. Robertson had proposed.

Chairman Martin then noted that the Committee had planned

to continue its discussion today of the implications of the "Freedom

of Information Act" for the Committee's procedures.

In that

connection, memoranda from the General Counsel and the Secretariat,

making certain recommendations, had been distributed on March 29,

1967.1/ In view of the lateness of the hour, however, he suggested

that the planned discussion be postponed until the next meeting.

There was no disagreement with the Chairman's suggestion.

It was agreed the next meeting of the Federal Open Market

Committee would be held on Tuesday, May 2, 1967, at 9:30 a.m.

Thereupon the meeting adjourned.

Secretary

1/ Copies of these memoranda have been placed in

the Committee's files.

ATTACHMENT A

CONFIDENTIAL (FR)

April 3, 1967

Drafts of Current Economic Policy Directive for Consideration by the

Federal Open Market Committee at its Meeting on April 4,

1967

FIRST PARAGRAPH

The economic and financial developments reviewed at this

meeting support earlier indications of a marked slowing of expansion

in over-all economic activity. Retail sales have continued sluggish

and curtailment in the rate of business inventory accumulation is in

process. Average commodity prices have changed little recently, but

unit labor costs in manufacturing have risen further. Bank credit

expansion has remained vigorous, short-term interest rates have

declined markedly further, and long-term rates have moved down some

what despite very heavy securities market flotations. Recently there

has been some improvement in the foreign trade surplus but none in

the over-all balance of payments. In several important countries

abroad, monetary and fiscal policies have eased further in response

to slackened economic activity. In this situation, it is the Federal

Open Market Committee's policy to foster money and credit conditions,

including bank credit growth, conducive to combatting the effects of

weakening tendencies in the economy, while recognizing the need for

progress toward reasonable equilibrium in the country's balance of

payments.

SECOND PARAGRAPH

Alternative A

To implement this policy, System open market operations

until the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a

view to maintaining the prevailing easier conditions in the money

market, but operations shall be modified as necessary to moderate

any apparently significant deviations of bank credit from current

expectations.

Alternative B

To implement this policy, System open market operations

until the next meeting of the Committee shall be conducted with a

view to attaining somewhat easier conditions in the money market,

and to attaining still easier conditions if bank credit appears to

be expanding significantly less than currently anticipated.

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